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Hey everyone, you're listening to the Curt Landry podcast where we're going to help you
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discover your kingdom destiny.
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My name is Darrell and sitting right beside me, it's his show, Rabbi Curt and Landry himself.
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And in this episode, Rabbi, we're going to be breaking down spiritual warfare.
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But first, before we jump right in, how is things going for you?
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Well Darrell, listen, I'm honored to be on the program here today to be able to share
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with people what really I think that if I could really deposit one aspect of spiritual
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life to people, it would be the spiritual warfare component.
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Because to the degree that you understand how that works and be able to do it successfully
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determines so much about your health, your wealth, your relationships, and most of all,
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your ability to obey God.
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So Rabbi, this is your first episode of your new podcast.
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What's really the direction that you want the audience to kind of feel?
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Because a lot of this stuff is really kind of jumping in to your extreme history of everything
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that you've kind of done.
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But where exactly do you really want to take it?
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Basically what I want to do is really is about legacy, and you know, everybody has something
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that is their favorite thing to do in life.
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And I would say mine would be the impartation to unlock people's kingdom destiny.
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If I can share something, and I've, listen, I've, Kristi and I've heard this before, where
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we'll meet somebody, we haven't seen them in like two or three years.
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It happened on this last trip to Israel.
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And they'll say something like, well, you know what, you don't remember this.
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You maybe don't even remember meeting me, but you said this and it changed my life.
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And so I really kind of hope that this podcast would be relational in the way that we could
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share things that would trigger spiritual change in people's lives, new ideas and concepts
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to give them kind of the faith to be able to try new things, to be able to grow.
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All right.
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So let's start with this.
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What is spiritual warfare?
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I think the best explanation is Ephesians chapter six, where it says in 12, for we do
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not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers
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of darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness and heavenly places.
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So as easy and clear as that is said, Paul speaking to the church at Ephesus, I think
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people struggle with the fact.
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And you'll hear people say, well, you think there's a demon behind every bush.
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But really, I want to try to back into this a little differently.
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The spirit of how something operates.
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Let's take the evil side out.
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Just the collective spirit will determine the outcome.
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I'll give you an example.
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I was watching the NFL the week before last.
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I was watching the Dallas Cowboys, a fantastic game.
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They were playing in Dallas and they won, I think it was their 12th game that they had
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won.
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And then, so I'm walking, and I don't watch a lot of football, but I've been a little
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bit under the weather, so I'm watching some television.
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And so now I'm going to watch them play Buffalo.
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And I'm going, man, this is going to be a great game.
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Let's watch this happen.
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Now I'm a behaviorist, okay?
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My mother was an Olympic athlete.
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I understand the whole mental concept of sports.
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And so I'm looking at sports from a different level.
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I can tell you the spiritual side.
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The spiritual side of the Dallas Cowboys who showed up in Buffalo was not who played in
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Dallas.
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They were totally defeated.
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They didn't have energy.
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They didn't have synergy.
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And Buffalo just ran over them.
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And the reason is because they were mentally defeated before the game even started.
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Now I don't know what happened, but I could just tell by the way that they were running
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off and on the field, the expression of the sideline and the coach, that it wasn't the
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same team.
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So that was a spirit.
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So what happened is they lost the game.
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They are still physically capable of playing the game as they were the week before, but
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they were mentally and spiritually, they were not ready for Buffalo.
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And you know, Buffalo is very physical, so they can apply a lot of physical pressure.
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And that, you know, people getting hurt, people getting shamed and run over, and then that
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defeatist attitude came upon them.
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And they lost the game.
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Now people would say, well, what do you mean spiritual warfare?
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Spiritual warfare has a lot to do with attitude.
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Because if your attitude is not positive, then what happens is you attract in the spirit
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realm, you attract evil spirits like despair, hopelessness, doubt, unbelief.
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All right, so let's walk it back a little bit.
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So let's walk it back to when war in Israel was announced, right?
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You popped on about 4 a.m. that morning, jumped in, really announced it to the Curtland Tree
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Ministries Facebook and YouTube channel.
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And let's sit from this perspective that what the perception of what was happening in Israel,
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right?
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And then let's now push about a month, month and a half forward.
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You went to Israel for around a week.
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And what was the reality in the spiritual warfare that, hey, when you first announced
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it, perception, right?
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As time went on, Curtland Tree Ministries did a ton of stuff with Stand With Israel
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to do numerous things for the IDF and the people of Israel.
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But what was that perception versus reality on the spiritual warfare right now?
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OK, so it's interesting you ask because you know that I went on the air, I think it was
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about 3.30 on October the 7th.
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So what happened, first of all, Sam gave me I get a call from from Israel and and the
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call is pretty panicky.
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And they said, listen, we need you to pray and you need to know we're under attack.
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So for our guests, you know, 34 years experience, this last trip was our 49th trip to Israel
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have worked with the IDF over 25 years.
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So we're seasoned.
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And actually what happened there, I don't know if you know this or not, but at 3.30
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when it went up, Prime Minister Netanyahu did not declare war.
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I was actually the one and I'm not taking credit, but the Lord told me as I'm going
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on the air, he said, you need to declare war.
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This is a war.
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And that's part of the training of spiritual warfare is that you have to know that you're
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not being terrorized.
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You're you're not being assaulted.
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You're actually in a war.
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And so what's happening in Israel in the south.
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So you're looking at Storot, Ofakim, Kibbutz Kavar, Kibbutz, the different places in the
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south.
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They have been accustomed to and comfortable with rockets coming in and the Iron Dome knocking
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the rockets down.
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But this is the first time over three thousand militants actually came in with motorcycles
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and trucks and cars and literally kites flying over the border and actually doing what I
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would call more, not just an assault, but like a home invasion.
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They knew the Kibbutz that that they were attacking.
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They many of them work in the factories that are in the Kibbutz.
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Many of them have had dinner in the homes of the people in these kibbutz.
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So they knew where the layout of the homes were, the safe houses, the safe rooms in the
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house.
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They knew where everything was.
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And so when when I was called and I put on went online and I saw them at this music festival
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literally chasing down people, shooting them, grabbing girls, putting them on motorcycles
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and taking them back into Gaza.
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This is the first time in Israel's history where there's actually kidnapping, murder,
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rape, pillaging, killing children.
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Just the brutality was was most monstrous.
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And so we knew that this was a war because the Hamas knows that there will be mass retaliation
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from from what they did.
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And of course, there has been and we're not near done yet.
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OK, so the perception on that, right?
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Moving forward, boots on the ground.
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What was the emotion?
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And you know, can you describe senses, you know, like kind of what you felt with the
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wind and the taste of the air and just like what's the reality of what you saw?
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So first of all, at this point, Christie and I have lost 10 commanders, OK, that these
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are men that we've worked with for, let's say, five, ten years.
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So we have relationship with them.
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So first of all, you have to deal with the in war now.
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And this is what the soldiers do.
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But Christie and I are like kind of a part of it.
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We have to process mentally the same way.
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There's no time to mourn.
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There's no time to grief.
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You're in war.
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You've got to make decisions.
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You have to have a reaction.
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And so so the first key, first of all, we went to the base, we went to the Gaza base,
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the one that was overrun, and we interviewed the soldiers there.
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We actually interviewed the young girl that that was responsible for the Intel failure
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that that and how that happened.
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They explained all that.
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We can go into that later.
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But what you're asking is the feeling.
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First of all, you're going through a neighborhood.
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See this key puts is these are houses.
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This is communal living.
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But it's basically like you if you're in America or something, it's like going into a neighborhood
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and you're seeing houses, some houses not touched.
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Excuse me.
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And then others completely burnt out.
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And you're seeing bullet ridden whole houses you're seeing.
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And when I say bullet ridden, I'm talking about a thousand 30 caliber bullet holes and
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RPGs where they go in and there's about a two inch hole.
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And what it does is it goes into the house and when it gets into the house, you'll see
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where it explodes on the inside wall of the house and then catches everything on fire.
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And I didn't let Christie go in the houses, but I went in the houses.
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So what you're seeing, first of all, there's places that are still smoking.
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The smell of death, it's everywhere.
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So your sensory base is getting just overrun.
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And I mean, I literally went into a house where there was an oven that they put a child
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in the oven and turn the oven on and killed the baby.
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There's you know, literally, Christie and I went through deliverance when we came home
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with some friends for for trauma.
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And actually, I got sick when I came home.
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And the diagnosis of the sickness was that we saw and it wasn't just in the south, we
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went everywhere.
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But we saw so much death and we heard so many stories of death.
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And we went to go see the soldiers in the in the Shiva hospital there in Tel Aviv.
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So you're you know, you're looking at people.
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I'm interviewing a young man.
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His right eye is shut out.
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And then the back of the left side of his brain is gone.
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So he's a bandage.
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There's a big cave in.
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He's going to have to have a plate in his head.
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And yet he can still talk.
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You're seeing people with bullet ridden.
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Their legs are just where machine guns just you know, there's 10 or 15 penetrations.
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And when you see all that, they say the reason when I came home, I got so sick was they said
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that when you experience that much trauma, then what happens is your immune system actually
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shuts down from the trauma.
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And they believe that's what happened to me.
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So I just got, you know, like a severe flu and is in bed for several days and sick.
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So this is the first time I've even come out since the meeting.
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It's been, it was about a two week time being down.
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But one of the questions that I was asked, it's interesting because my friend John Smoltz,
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you know, John called me and he asked, he says, I need to ask you a question, Rabbi.
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He says, what's that?
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He said, how do you deal with the anger?
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And I never thought about it.
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And I said to him, well, first of all, my assignment, my spiritual warfare assignment
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on the Gaza border at these bases and the kibbutz's.
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And it was the only day there was an extended day of a ceasefire.
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So we were able to go.
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And so we're there, we're with heavily armed troops.
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I mean, if you can imagine, we're walking around with our camera guy and we've got
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soldiers all around us, heavily armed, literally watching the perimeter.
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And I literally, I just, I felt like I didn't put on our bulletproof vests or a helmet or
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anything.
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I wasn't trying to add drama to this.
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I wanted this to be real.
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And I was talking to a gentleman that had lost his son.
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And I didn't want to traumatize it more by him, me being there with a vest on and all
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the stuff.
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But what John asked me, he said, how do you deal with the anger?
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I said, you really have to get to a spiritual warfare place.
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And I said, what I did was I mentally took myself in my head to Jesus on the cross.
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And I had to mentally think, look what they did to him.
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He's sinless.
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He did nothing.
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It's like these people.
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Now, listen, the people in the kibbutz aren't sinless, but they weren't attacking anyone.
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They were having a peace festival.
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It was the last day of Sukkot.
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Literally, one of the houses I went to had a kite, a child's kite that was burned and
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was on fire.
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That child, I know his uncle Doran, and his uncle was telling me that they were flying
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kites with the Palestinian kids that day.
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Literally, they were flying kites together as a sign of peace the day the attack came.
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Such a betrayal in relationship.
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So what I had to do is I had to go into the mind of the Lord, put myself, so to say, if
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I was like Jesus, if I was on the cross, they had just plucked out my beard.
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They put 39 stripes on my back.
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They're getting ready to drive.
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They drove nails through my hands.
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They pierced my side.
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They spit.
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They mocked me.
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They put a sign above my head saying, here's the king of the Jews.
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I have the ability to be angry.
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I have the ability to call down all heaven's army, as Jesus did, and yet he chose to say
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these words.
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He says, Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.
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So I had to go back.
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I hope I'm not going too deep here, but what happened is my assignment on the Gaza border
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was to spiritually cleanse and reconcile so that the victory for the soldiers can come.
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And the commanders and the soldiers all know that.
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Everywhere we went, to the north, Kariot Shemona, the West Bank, everywhere we went, some of
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the places, I can't tell you where we went, but every place that we went, they wanted
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Christy and I there, and they all said, would you please pray?
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So here's the key about prayer.
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And I told this to John Smoltz.
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I said, John, I can't pray if I'm mad, if I'm angry, if I'm wanting to kill him.
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Did I get angry?
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Did I want to do it?
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Yes.
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Your first man, human instinct is to go to one of the soldiers and say, give me your
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gun.
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I'm going to go find them and shoot them.
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I mean, you're just, it's the innocence to the children.
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It's like, whoa.
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But you, but what's your assignment?
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Your assignment is to repent, cleanse the land so that when the soldiers come in who
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are depending on us, can get a spiritual victory.
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It's called intercessory prayer warfare.
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So I told John that and his response to me says that's interesting because he played
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in the first game in New York after 9-11.
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And for the people that don't know John, he's a pitcher, a Hall of Fame pitcher for the
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Braves.
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And he said, I can totally relate to Rabbi because all of my team went to ground zero.
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They took them to ground zero and then they played the game.
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And the reason they chose to play the game was to try to bring some community, healthy
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normalcy after 9-11 to the New Yorkers.
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And so, but John said, he said, he said the only player he said I couldn't go because
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he said, I knew if I went, I would get so angry.
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I wouldn't be able to focus on my game and I couldn't play the game.
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And I said, well, that's what happened to me.
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I had to choose not to battle against flesh and blood, but the powers and principalities
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and the heavenly host dark places.
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And Darrell, I'll tell you, I've been all over the world.
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I've seen a lot of bad stuff.
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But the experience Christie and I had of the demonic behavior of demons is at a whole
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other level because of what you saw us and smelled and was testified of.
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So when Jesus says these words like that Satan has come to kill, steal and destroy and I've
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come to give life, that takes on a whole other meaning for me.
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It's different now.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not a naive person.
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I mean, I was raised in Los Angeles during the Watts riots in the sixties.
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I came out of a neighborhood where I've seen people shot and killed, you know, before I
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was 18.
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So, I mean, it's not like I wasn't raised like my, my wife and McCallister where she
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didn't see hardly any violence.
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I was raised around violent activity, but I never not like this.
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This isn't even war.
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This is brutality.
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I was interviewing Doron Amag, the president of the Jewish Agency, my friend who lost his
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some of his family down in Kibbutz Kivar.
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And he said, he said, they're not animals, Kurt.
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He said animals only kill for food or they're mating or competing, but they don't just randomly
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kill.
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And he said, he said, these are monsters.
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And that's what I, that's what basically we observed as a monstrous act.
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But we have to understand that we have the power that we are truly more than conquerors
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through Christ Jesus.
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You know, last year I had a prophetic word in 2023 early that, and I think I did 10 weeks
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of teaching on spiritual warfare.
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And I really think that the preparation time of spiritual warfare, emotional healing, the
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things that I was teaching really helped us for the preparation of being able to operate
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successfully on this trip.
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Because not only did we have to go and see all this, but we had to get in and out of
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it safely without getting killed.
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And so we went to the south, they extended the ceasefire.
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We prayed before we went in, our team prayed.
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The next day, ceasefire stopped.
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The very place we were at received three rockets.
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So and then we went to the north up to Kariot Shemona.
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We were there and 45 minutes after we left, three rockets came in.
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So there's, there's real practical application to spiritual warfare to know how to shut things
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down so that you spiritually can get in and out of dangerous situations safely.
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And we'll be right back.
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All right, now back to the show.
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So I guess the next thought is, do you have an urge to go back?
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I mean, you know, I'm talking like in the next couple of weeks.
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I mean, it's something that you explain, hey, like you were telling me, I think about a
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week ago, you've really only been sick like four times in your life that you can really
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remember being sick sick.
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And you come back, right, and you're battling all this stuff and you get sick.
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And so reflecting off what that perception versus reality, because you experienced it
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and you were sick, and now you're starting to kind of come over the edge a little bit.
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Is there an urge to get back like, I mean, even if you don't do it, but like the inner
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inside of you of what you experience in relationships and the people that you know, do you have
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an urge just to hop back on a plane and get back out there?
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Well, first of all, it's just like in a podcast mentoring way, okay.
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The first night of Hanukkah when we got, we just got back.
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And in fact, I think you mentioned it.
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I don't think you realized or anybody, but I was running a fever.
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I was extremely ill that night.
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I mean, I'm looking down at my notes and the letters are blurring and moving.
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That's pretty impressive because you delivered it.
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Yeah.
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And the reason, see, that's part of the spiritual warfare is I made a commitment to the Lord.
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I would never let Satan control my schedule.
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I can tell you in 34 years and thousands of times speaking, maybe tens of thousands, I
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don't know, I've never missed a service because I was sick.
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Have I been sick in services?
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Oh, absolutely.
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And that was one of them.
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I mean, I was really, that's why I just, everyone wanted to love on us because of what
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we were doing, but Christie was not feeling well either.
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So we had to go to the green room and we left.
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So then we come back a week later and we're bringing the rewards of Hanukkah and I'm
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still sick.
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So here's the key is what did I learn from that?
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Are we going to go back?
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Yes, we're going back.
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They want us to come back.
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But this trip was kind of, there was twofold.
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Number one is the comfort.
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Scripture says, comfort ye, comfort my people.
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I lost count of how many of my tough special forces guys literally wept when they saw us
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walk in the door.
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That's not like them, not like me.
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But we knew we were at Israel's 9-11.
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We knew that Israel was never going back to be the same again, that what happened has
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changed the nation and the region and the world forever.
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And it was unspoken.
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So just the embrace and the hugs and being there, it was a comfort trip.
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The warfare side of it was the Lord allowed us to go to every strategic high place that
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we needed to go to and do the spiritual warfare by praying, decreeing, pulling down the strongholds,
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canceling assignments of the enemy.
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So we were able to do that.
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But that was done in a very private way.
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But the next time we go back, what will happen is the next layer of warfare will be to speak
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words of knowledge, to speak prophetic words.
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You know, the trip you were on with us, we went in and we had prophetic words for the
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mayor of Jerusalem and the minister of defense, Yoav Galant.
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And those words that I spoke to them have happened.
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And a lot of it was warning them about this war to come.
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So this next visit, you're asking, yes, there will be a next visit.
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I don't know when.
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But I can tell you this.
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And this is spiritual warfare.
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I will, the vitamins and the rest, I will definitely increase all of my vitamins and
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my rest.
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We left very tired and very fatigued at the end of the year.
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And so, and you know, we just squeezed this, we felt like we had to be there at this, another
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spiritual warfare principle.
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The Lord said, you got to go from this day to that day.
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And it was perfect because every place we went, we couldn't have gone if we were a day
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late.
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But one of the keys is, is that this next trip, we're going to, you know, we belong
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to salt health.
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And so we'll go and get vitamin injections.
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We'll be rested.
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Spiritually, we'll take our game up to a higher level.
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What does that mean?
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We'll spend more time meditating on doors open and weak places in our life.
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And we'll just take it to another level so we can get in and out.
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Like I say, it's our 49th trip.
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I've only been sick on one other trip there.
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And that was my first trip there back in 91.
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So, but anyway, that's what we'll do.
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We'll just, we'll take it up.
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And do we want to go back?
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Absolutely.
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We, this, this, this war, I don't think people understand.
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This spirit, spiritual warfare, is not really even about Israel.
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This isn't really even about Hamas and Hezbollah.
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What this is, is this is about an evil Persian ancient spirit that is literally marching
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in the universities in the Ivy League in the United States and other places.
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So, so we're going to have to learn how to overcome this spirit spiritually with the
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proper strategies.
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And the Lord's given me some prophetic words I'll be releasing in the first quarter of
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this year in regards to how to overcome that.
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And for the listeners listening, if you want to know more about how you can help Israel,
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you can Stand With Israel.
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You just go over to our website, visit curtlandry.com forward slash stand with Israel.
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Again, it's curtlandry.com.
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Stand With Israel.
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You hit the forward slash on that.
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Tons of great individual ask.
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Rabbi, you know, it does a really good job on this landing page.
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There's a lot of content, a lot of videos that you can watch.
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But you know, I think our team's doing a really good job to break it down and say like, here's
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where these phases are, and here's where these ask are.
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Well, let's talk about that.
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So, when the war starts that night, you know, that morning, I announced that Israel's at
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war.
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And I'm being obedient to God, but I'm also waiting because I knew I did this and that
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Prime Minister Netanyahu hadn't done it yet.
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And I do know that they watch me and listen to what I say.
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So I'm waiting like, oh my gosh, I told Christie, it's like six in the morning and I'm saying
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I'm waiting on my phone to ring going, Lord, who are you to say where it's war?
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It's the prime minister's job, not yours.
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But anyway, it didn't happen.
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And it turned out later that day that Bibi did announce it.
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So the first thing is like, okay, what's the main need?
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And the main need were the bulletproof vest and the helmets.
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Now you have to understand the full-time army has all these things, but the reserves, they
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called up initially, it was like, I think they started out with two, don't quote me,
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but it was like 250,000 guys and gals they call up.
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And eventually it got up over 350.
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But these are just regular people.
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These are your barber, the accountant, the nurse, the school teacher, I mean, the banker.
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And they're coming back in in the reserves.
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And so some of them don't even have proper uniforms or boots and they don't have bulletproof
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vests.
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So the first phase, we got bulletproof vests, and then we got bulletproof helmets because
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they were just getting the traditional helmets.
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And these things have already, we know have saved life.
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And then we got them boots because, you know, you got to be able to keep your footing and
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gloves and uniforms and flashlights and power packs to store, to charge their phones.
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It turns out when they went into the medical supplies, the bandages that are the ones to
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use to coagulate and stop bleeding from blunt trauma, they're outdated.
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So we went and bought these bandages that are really expensive.
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So we supplied the medics.
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I mean, it just goes on and on.
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But here's where we're at right now and what I want to speak to our podcast audience about
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morning, is that when we were in the South, you would see one kibbutz and it was all burned
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out and fired and the next one was fine and kind of random.
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And so when I asked my friend that was taking us through there as a Mossad agent, he said
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this kibbutz had security, meaning not just police and the soldiers, but the actual people
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that live there were armed, bulletproof vest, helmets, flash, you know, the lights on the
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helmet, nightlights, all this stuff.
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They had everything they need and to defend.
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And so what happens is when Hamas came in and these terrorists came in, militants, they
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left those alone because they didn't want to be shot back at and killed.
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They went to where there was no protection.
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And so when I saw that, in fact, I was coming back from the South, I got a phone call from
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the mayor and he were here when I interviewed him as Benny Kassara from Ma'el Domeim.
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He's been the mayor for 35 years there.
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Well, he's in a very vulnerable spot.
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If you've been to Israel, you come down, you're going down to Jericho.
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It's the first big neighborhood village that's on the right side, on the south side of the
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highway and across the other side is Ramallah, where the checkpoint is.
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And so Palestinians are coming in doing home invasions there.
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He said, we need to equip 36 soldiers.
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He called me.
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He says, we have 36 retired special forces guys and regular soldiers and we need all
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the equipment.
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He said, we need $3,000 a guy to equip them and we need it tomorrow.
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So I'm there and I just said, we're going to do it, Benny, because after seeing this
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and then being and working at Ma'el Domeim for all these years, I knew the vulnerability.
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So that's what we're doing.
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So you can literally sow seed providing bulletproof helmets, gloves, uniforms, flashlights, walkie
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talkies.
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And the other thing we've done is there's 36 safe houses from bombs in Ma'el Domeim.
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We redid all of them and we put water and plumbing in so they can use the restroom and
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get water.
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This was not an issue.
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The last time they used safe houses in Ma'el Domeim was in 67, Six Day War.
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So that's a real practical thing that I think the prevention of it.
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And of course, they brought in the news when we were there and the news channels were running
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and filming it.
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So everyone knows that they're armed and prepared for what's coming.
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And so far they haven't had an attack of that.
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So I think it's amazing to me and I just really am impressed with the Curt Landry ministry
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supporters that you have the foresight and the heart to be able to understand one of
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the biggest spiritual warfare principles is preparation is the key to victory.
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And that's CurtLandry.com forward slash Stan with Israel to find out more and about how
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you can help.
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All right.
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So Rabbi, we're getting towards the end of this episode.
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Let's just get practical for the listeners here because we've jumped in and really broke
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down a lot of practical and relational stories and things that especially has happened recently
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in regards to spiritual warfare.
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And so I want to get to a couple of things that I'm just going to fire at you and I want
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you to kind of lead people through.
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The first area is how do you actually recognize spiritual warfare and or put it this way,
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how do you recognize if you're actually going through it?
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First of all, you have to look at the symptoms.
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One of the biggest free download blogs that we've ever had is the one I did on how do
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you identify a Jezebel spirit?
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And I can't remember how many symptoms it but so I just basically put a list of the
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symptoms in there and I would recommend that they go.
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We don't have it.
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We're not prepared with the.
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We'll throw it in the show notes in the description of this episode.
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But definitely listen, that's a great learning because what you can do is saying, am I being
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influenced by this in this case, a Jezebelic witchcraft spirit and then go down the symptoms
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of that.
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But in a real practical way, when you start having what we call in our family little foxes,
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when you have too many things that are constantly going wrong, there's a pretty good chance
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that you have some kind of a demonic spirit tormenting you and you know, you're dropping
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things, you're breaking things.
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Small things happen and you emotionally just overreact.
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You can't even understand like, why did I get so mad about this?
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I mean, I'm like flipping out.
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It's like nothing.
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When those type of things happening happen, most likely you're being attacked or you've
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picked up what I call a trailer or you've got a trailing spirit and or you're having
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oppression.
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You're having bizarre sexual thoughts.
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OK.
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Every human being has a certain amount of sexual thoughts and that are kind of more
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normal for the person.
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But when you start having like weird perverted sexual thoughts, more than likely you've
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picked up an unclean spirit somewhere.
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And those things need to just be cut off.
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Financially, you're getting drained.
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I mean, it's like, oh my gosh, the refrigerator goes out, the ice maker goes out.
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You have a flat tire on the car and you weren't able to and you got to go take and get the
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tire plugged.
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I mean, it's like it's not the end of the world.
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But when you start seeing these things come one, two, three, four or five, you're under
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a spiritual attack.
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And what you have to do is you have to cancel those attacks.
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OK, so that leads me to this.
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What do you actually do right from a spiritual but what's the physical sense in it as well?
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Because physical action has to occur.
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How do you actually defeat it?
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So like now that I know, right?
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So like say they take a resource on this and watch one of those Shabbat's that you really
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kind of break it down, right?
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What do they do?
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How do they defeat it?
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Well, first of all, we have a workbook on spiritual warfare and I think it's 10 chapters.
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I would go through that and also we have 10 classes.
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I would go through 12 victory in spiritual warfare.
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It's actually a playlist.
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If you look up Curt Landry Ministries YouTube, you just go to playlists.
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There's 12 of them.
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OK, well, what I would do is I'd get a partner or a small group and I just watch it and then
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go through the workbook.
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And that's where I go.
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Yeah, it's not, there's no quick fix for spiritual warfare.
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I mean, you know, your authority that you have needs to be recognized in heaven.
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You know, in the book of Acts, there were people casting out demons and so the demon
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came and just beat up and trashed the person.
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And the demon said to the person that was trying to cast out in Jesus' name, he says,
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All I know, Jesus, I know, he says, Who are you?
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So there's a certain amount of spiritual warfare lifestyle so that the enemy knows
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like who you are.
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OK, so like, for instance, when we came back from the trip, we knew, Christie, I knew we
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took a hit.
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First of all, it's not, we've been doing this a long time.
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I knew for us, you know, at almost 70 years old, we're doing a long international trip.
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No rest in and out.
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Didn't sleep when we were there.
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You've been with us.
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You know what it's like.
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I mean, eight o'clock in the morning, you hit it.
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We're back in the hotel at midnight.
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So every day and it's a work trip.
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It's a work trip.
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There's no everyone always says, oh, 100%.
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So glad.
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The hotel we stayed at had a pool, an indoor pool.
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And they said, oh, could it be so great?
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You can swim.
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We know you love to swim.
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And saying, yeah, really.
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I never even went and looked at it.
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It's kind of funny how people ask me my first experience going to Israel on my trip.
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I think I was out there eight, nine days.
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And I said, guys, like, I don't think you understand that just not in general of these
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types of film trips, but like I experienced it through a lens.
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And we were working 12 to 14 hour days and I'll send in footage and photos back at 1,
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2 a.m. because I had to try to get it back.
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So then we're able to share the content with everybody that's donating towards these certain
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projects.
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So it's it's a work trip.
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Yeah.
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So so anyway, we knew we were going to take a hit.
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But when we got back, what happened is we have other friends that are leaders and travel
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internationally.
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You know, they go to Africa, they go to Korea, they go different places.
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OK.
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And so we, you know, we called them so they understand like they're seasoned.
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They've been in ministry 30, 40 years like us and we're friends, but they have authority.
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They're known in heaven.
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OK.
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And and we're known in heaven.
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But it wasn't enough just for Christie and I to be on the couch sitting there wiped out.
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So we called our friends and they prayed, prayed with us.
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We also have a prayer team that prays with us.
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That's been with us for 14 years.
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Intercessors.
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We have intercessors in House of David that are very seasoned.
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So so I didn't put it out like on social media, like, OK, we took a hit.
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We're sick, you know, because that's just fueling the enemies.
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We're past it now.
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That's why I'm even discussing it.
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But what happens is we already had those people in place before we prayed and before we went.
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But we also knew, Darrell, when we went that it's really kind of unreasonable to think
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you're going to go into that level of demonic activity without taking some hits.
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And I mean, that's like to me, maybe.
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But like, you know what?
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We're just people.
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We're not superheroes.
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I think that's a really good point.
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Well, Rabbi, I think it's going to wrap up this episode for questions.
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I mean, obviously, it's it's the first Curt Landry podcast.
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It's a show that I've been trying to get you to do since I got here almost two years ago.
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Do you feel like this type of format is is good to kind of open up conversation like
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this?
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It's good for me.
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My question is for the audiences, if it's good for them.
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I know I get a lot of requests from people and I understand it.
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And they just said, oh, I just if I could just talk to you, you know, for 10 minutes
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or whatever.
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And and and I really don't think people.
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I don't think people understand because of the international nature of what we do, that
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we seriously we work from about eight in the morning till midnight, one, two in the morning,
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because if I'm going to work with Israel, it's from 12 to three in the morning.
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And so I don't think people realize that there's very few.
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They don't understand, like, the amount of hours.
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So I really don't have time to, like, sit down with somebody and just hang out and visit.
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And that's what I like about this is that that's what we're doing.
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We're hanging out and visiting and being pretty transparent and personal.
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I have no trouble with that.
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I want I would you know, I want people to learn from our mistakes so that our ceiling
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becomes their floor, but also our victories.
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They can learn from that and not have to reinvent the wheel.
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So I like the format, but I'd like to hear from the people if they like it.
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I mean, it's up to you know, this is easy for me because there's no preparation.
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I mean, this is this is like who we are.
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This is what we do.
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We're a work in progress.
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And we have a saying in our house, people say, oh, it's not theologically correct.
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And I don't know if it is or not, but people I always say higher levels, higher devils.
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And what happens is it's higher levels of responsibility brings a higher attack, a higher
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level of principality.
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Now, I don't know if that's scriptural or not, but I can tell you with 34 years of doing
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this, that's how it works.
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So whether anybody some theologian says, well, that's not correct.
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If you lived my life, you would know that if you're going into a nation and you're
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meeting with the minister of defense and the prime minister and the tops and you have the
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honor to speak into their life, the attack on the enemy is a lot more than you going
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in and speaking in church because what you're doing is going to shift that nation and it's
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going to start fulfilling and activating Bible prophecy.
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So there's just a different level of responsibility.
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So anyway, I understand that and where we come from is we have no intention of quitting.
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We've had a CLM board meeting here last week and there was kind of a slow down plan that
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everybody had at this age.
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And I told them, I said, now you realize after this trip, we're burning the slow down plan.
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And because the experience that we have and the testimony and the favor we have to get
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with people, I can't like delegate that out.
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I mean, the people I meet with meet with me in Israel because they've met with me for
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20 years and there's trust.
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And so, you know, and Israel needs us right now and the Lord needs us.
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So I guess we're not slowing down.
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Well, that's going to wrap it up for this.
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We actually do have an email set up.
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It's podcast at Curt Landry dot com.
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You can send your questions, your thoughts, show topic ideas, anything that you'd love
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for us to really dive deeper into it.
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You can give us suggestions.
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We'd love to hear your feedback.
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Again, that's podcast at Curt Landry dot com.
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You can send those questions.
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Rabbi, until next time.
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Yep, thank you so much, Shalom.