April 10, 2023

Serve The Lord Where He Places You, with Col. Gary Nelson

Serve The Lord Where He Places You, with Col. Gary Nelson
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A Word in Season with Doug Stringer

Our careers and lives are directed by the Lord. He opens doors and closes them. Through 29 years of military service and nearly two decades of leading a mission organization, Col. Gary Nelson has learned the importance of serving where the Lord places him. God directed his steps through challenges and triumphs to accomplish His purposes. And through it all, Gary faithfully led his family to serve the Lord too. Listen as Gary and host Doug Stringer talk about the ways God has accomplished His plans through Gary despite the obstacles he faced along the way. As you commit to follow God, you’ll discover He is up to something good in your life too!

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Welcome to A Word in Season with Doug Stringer and friends.

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We share good news and godly wisdom to empower you to be salt and light in every season of

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life.

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Through 29 years of military service and nearly two decades of leading a mission organization,

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Colonel Gary Nelson has learned the importance of serving where the Lord places him.

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Listen as Gary and Doug talk about the way God has accomplished his plans through Gary's

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life despite the obstacles he faced along the way.

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Now let's join our host Doug Stringer.

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We are excited to have today Colonel Gary Nelson retire from the United States Air Force.

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Colonel Nelson served in the United States Air Force for 29 years before retiring to

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lead GALCOM International, a mission organization primarily reaching oral learners.

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And I've got a lot to share about that and our first connection to that as well.

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While in the Air Force, he spent 24 years as a fighter pilot, including flying the F-4

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Phantom flying aircraft in combat over Vietnam.

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He accumulated 5200 hours of jet fighting flying time and for a time held the world

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record of 4500 hours in the F-4 Phantom.

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He then commanded an F-16 fighter squadron and flew that aircraft.

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He also served as deputy base commander at McDill Air Force Base after his tour as squadron

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commander.

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From 1984 through 1987, while stationed at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, he was

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the chairman of the operation subcommittee for the multinational F-16 program with Air

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Force committee members from the USA, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark and Norway.

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In his capacity, he worked directly for the assistant secretary of the Air Force.

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From 1987 through 1990, he was the head of the Department of Aerospace Studies at MIT

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and for a year he also had a dual job as head of the Department of Aerospace Studies at

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Boston University.

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It was an unusual distinction of being a department head and on the faculty of both MIT and the

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Boston University at the same time.

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His last job in the Air Force was a faculty head at the Joint Forces Staff College in

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Norfolk, Virginia.

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No wonder your daughter Jody, who's our vice president, somebody cares, is so smart.

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In 1991, he separated from the Air Force and moved to Tampa, Florida to head a mission

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organization called GalCom International, which a close friend of his had started.

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This included building a tax-exempt charity organization from scratch.

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The ministry provides audio tools for reaching with the gospel, non-literate people, for

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those who prefer to learn by hearing.

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He headed this ministry for 18 years and is still the corporate president.

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And during those years, GalCom sent audio tools for hearing the gospel to millions of

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people in over 160 countries.

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I can go on and on about all these things, but I wanted to share something about GalCom

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real quick is that I was first connected to GalCom and, Gary, I think we've talked about

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this probably back in the 80s or 90s.

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When did GalCom first start?

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It started in 1989.

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Okay.

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So I was first introduced because I was on the founding, am on the founding board and

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still serve on Love Botswana Outreaches in Botswana, Africa.

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And they presented to us during the board meeting that there was this great new tool

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that GalCom came out with, and it was directional radio station that could go out to the bush

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and to the villages and to give a radio to all the different village chiefs.

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And the transmission would come from one station and that would be from the station that they

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had using the GalCom equipment.

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So that was our first introduction.

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So when Jody and I started talking about it years ago, I thought, wait a minute, I know

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what GalCom is.

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And so it's so great to have you with us today.

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Well, Gary and Mary, we just again, thank you for your lives.

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Obviously, you have such a history of just service to our country, but also transitioning

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that into the service of the kingdom even during that time, but also the service of

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the kingdom and so many lives have been impacted.

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Who knows how many untold millions of impacted lives there are with the gospel of Jesus Christ

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because of your commitment to the service of the Lord, even beyond leaving the Air Force

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in such a great position and also great influence.

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So thank you for being with us today, Gary.

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Well, it's my pleasure.

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I look forward to it.

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Tell us a little bit about your time serving during the Vietnam War and of course in the

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Air Force.

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And then we want to talk a little bit about your gospel journey.

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How did you get a revelation of the work of the cross and the power of the resurrection

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throughout that time as well?

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Well, actually, when I was flying in Vietnam, it was before our kind of dramatic conversion

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to the Lord.

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And as I was reflecting on my time in Vietnam and in the 24 years of flying fighter aircraft,

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I recently heard a song, but it's been out for a year or two.

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It's called The Goodness of God.

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All my life you've been so faithful.

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All my life you've been so, so good.

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With every breath that I'm able, I will sing of the mercies, the goodness of God.

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And as I was listening to that song by C.C.

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Winans recently, I thought of several instances where even though I hadn't yet committed my

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life to Him, He was taking care of me and watching over me.

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Like Hebrews 1.14 says, God has ministering angels sent to minister to those who shall

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be heirs of salvation.

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And I thought of many, many instances.

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One in particular came to my mind where I thought I was going to crash.

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I was on a mission in Vietnam and one of our target was actually a bridge across a river

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on the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

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And it was down in a deep canyon and it was hard to see.

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It was smoky and hazy that day.

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And we were circling and suddenly I saw it.

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And I thought, I can't take my eyes off it, otherwise I may not see it again.

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So I rolled in a little steeper than I should have because I was close to it.

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I was probably about 50 degrees dive, got my Pipper sight on the target, released my

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bombs and looked up to look at my pull off area and there was no place to pull off.

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I was right into the face of a rock cliff on a great big mountain.

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And I thought, oh no, there's no way I can turn this airplane and get that nose above

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that mountain.

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I happened to glance out of my corner of my eye, I saw a little notch, a little saddleback

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on that mountain.

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So I pulled toward that saddleback and I still think to this day there were angels under

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that airplane pushing it up because I went right between two great big trees.

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I never thought I would make that pull out.

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And it just came to my mind just not too long ago that mission and Mary said, gee, you never

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told me about that.

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And I said, well, you know, in a situation like that, when you're flying several missions

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a day, sometimes, you know, that happens, you go back, you land, get in another airplane,

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go off and do it again.

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But I just realized that God put that little saddleback there for me.

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The scripture that came to mind was Psalm 68 20.

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God is a God of salvation.

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To him belongs escapes from death.

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And I thought way back when God made that mountain, he put that saddleback there for

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me as an escape from death.

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Yeah, the Lord has been good to us.

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You want me to go in on the end to our transition into the kingdom or?

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Well, no, I like that because I think along the way, even in retrospect, all of us can

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look at the goodness of God, can't we?

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Because there are times we thought he wasn't with us, but we look at moments like that

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and we realize that he really was giving us those moments to give us that sense of his

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presence and even in the future to look back and see he was with us along the way.

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Yeah, he's been he's been faithful.

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You've probably heard of the movie.

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We were soldiers that Mel Gibson starred in the Battle of the La Drang Valley.

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I was there then and we flew missions for three days in support of that, that engagement.

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So it was quite a year of flying combat in Vietnam and then, of course, a total of 24

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years flying jet fighters.

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So it was quite a career that prior to my service in the mission in the mission world.

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I don't know a whole lot about planes, but I lived in a lot of naval air stations and

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my father and stepfather, both were Vietnam veterans.

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And so there's a lot of things that I know many men like you and others served things

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that maybe you hadn't shared, like these stories that you remembered.

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And because you did your job, you loved your country and you served your country, you know,

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with the best that you knew how.

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And yet today we see so many of those things you serve for unraveling and we see the foundations

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that are shattering in our country.

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How does that make you feel as far as a person who's given so much of your life?

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And I know that in the Lord, you give a sense of purpose and hope even beyond the circumstances.

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But on behalf of a lot of veterans that have given so much, even previously to Vietnam

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war and even since then, that there must be something that you sense in some regard of

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being not disappointed, but you begin to become unsettled because you think of all those who

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have given themselves into serving this country.

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How do you, how does it make you feel and how do you sense that other Vietnam veterans

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as well as veterans of other wars may feel?

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While I was flying in Vietnam, I was not aware of the anti-Vietnam sentiment that was going

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on in the country.

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And then when we, when I came back, our next assignment was three years in Europe.

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So again, we were away from that sort of anti-war demonstrations that were going on.

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We always thought that the reason, one of the outcomes of the war was a kind of holding

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back the expansion of communism in Asia at that time.

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Communism was taking over country after country.

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And I think our involvement in Vietnam slowed that down and really did help.

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But you know, over the years I've noticed that there isn't the same level of patriotism

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in our culture as there was when I was growing up.

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You know, I grew up in the forties, fifties, sixties after the great World War II.

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And there was a great, great amount of patriotism, which has eroded in our culture today.

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And it is sad to see.

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I do sense that there's not the same sense of patriotism from those days as they are

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now.

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And you said something very important because you didn't stop communism, but it was a moment

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where we were able to hold it back who knows how many years.

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And we fast forward today and we see the, what we thought after the Berlin Wall came

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down and we thought that all of a sudden that we as America were this great nation of democracy.

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And yet the implosion is happening from within that's allowing the beast, so to speak, the

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dragon to raise his head with communist China, Russia, all of a sudden re-emerging.

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And to the point that we see in many ways, the huge influence by Marxism, socialism,

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communism into our own culture here.

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And I realize now when you said that, that if we hadn't have been able to be there during

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World War II and Vietnam War and, and trying to stay that pressure or stay that spirit

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and coming to the rest of the world where we would have been already by now, but we

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see the increase today and it's in some ways it is very alarming.

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And I know it's unsettling to so many of us who recognize and we've been to those countries

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that operate under extreme dictatorships, socialism, communism, Marxism.

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And we see so much of that influence in our own country today and it is unsettling.

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How did you get from that place at that moment where you, the angels lifted you through those

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trees to coming to a revelation?

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You said you went to Europe for three years as well.

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How did you move and get to the place of getting a revelation of who Christ was in your life?

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When we were in Europe, we were very close friends with another couple, Chris and Laura

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Meno.

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And when we transferred in 1969 to MacDill Air Force Base, I was transferred to the fighter

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wing as an instructor pilot for a fighter training unit there.

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And Chris and Laura were transferred to the hospital because he had just had an aircraft

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accident and a high speed ejection that broke a lot of his bones and he was in the hospital

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there for orthopedic rehab.

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And while he was in the hospital, a chaplain, a reserve chaplain came by and talked to him

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for a while and led him to the Lord.

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So when he did get out of the hospital, he was definitely a changed man and he began

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searching for Christian fellowship.

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This was during the same time as the Jesus revolution really, when you were interviewing

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Chuck Gerard the other day, you know, he was part of that Jesus revolution out in California.

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But there was something going on in Tampa.

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We called it the Charismatic Revival.

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And the Spirit of God was moving not among hippies, but among us.

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And Chris began searching for fellowship and he would drag us to church and to home prayer

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meetings.

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I sometimes jokingly say we were dragged into the kingdom because he dragged us to church

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and dragged us to home meetings and as a family.

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There was a time when we were having Charismatic conferences in Tampa.

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And during that time, I had the three children who I'm looking at, Mark, Debbie and Jody,

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they were part of the family.

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We all gave our lives to the Lord during that time, all within a couple of weeks.

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And it was kind of household salvation.

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And we kind of grew up in the Lord together.

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That was when we had been married about 12 years.

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And I still had time in the Air Force to serve and wasn't sure what the Lord was going to

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do with me.

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So we did grow in the Lord.

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One thing that it did instill in us was a great hunger for the Word of God.

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And we began reading and studying the Word individually and as a family.

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It was a great time and it's been really great ever since.

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After that, when the fourth child came along, David, he joined the family.

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He joined the family and the kingdom when he was at a young age.

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So we've had a great walk with our family in the Lord.

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It dawned on me that over the years, although we've been in ministry here with our ministry

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since 1981, but our first official chapter of Somebody Cares outside of Houston was Tampa

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Bay.

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So you paved the way for us already.

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Who would have known that that was our first official chapter after Somebody Cares in Houston

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and of course the other relationships we've had.

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We did work with Dan Bernard quite a bit when he was getting started.

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That's right.

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In fact, we saw each other at some of the banquets and some of the outreaches there

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as well.

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Mary, I'm going to ask you a question.

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I know that we're interviewing your husband, Gary.

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I was noticing on the bio that you all were high school sweethearts.

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Yes.

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So you got acquainted during high school and where did you guys go to high school at?

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We went to high school at Parkston High School, which was in a little prairie town in southeastern

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South Dakota.

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Gary grew up on a farm and went to a school in a community nearby that just went through

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eighth grade.

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So ninth grade, he was transitioned to the school that I was going to.

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Not to my parents' pleasure, we ended up getting married and things worked out after that.

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They came to the Lord as well.

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Isn't it interesting how God has this providential way of connecting pieces that we would think

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it was by accident, but really he and his planning already had these different connections

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in place.

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And then all of a sudden when it happens, you look back and go, oh, God was up to something

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there.

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And so look at all these years later and all your children serving the Lord, all your family,

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that's in large part, and I learned from the late Dr. Edwin Lewis Cole that the characteristics

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of the kingdom emanate from the character of the King, first King Jesus, then those

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that he raises up.

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And so obviously the fruit of your marriage, the fruit of you two together serving has

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brought forth great fruit for your children, your children's children, and beyond that,

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serving so many other families and people around the world because of your commitment

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to each other, to the Lord, and to the calling that God's given you.

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The precious thing about our salvation experience when we shared it with our family members,

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our siblings, my five siblings came to the Lord just through our testimony.

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The Lord revealed himself to them.

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And Gary's three siblings also came to the Lord.

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And our parents.

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And his parents.

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So it was really, it really was household salvation.

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I was listening to a message this past Palm Sunday at a church after we finished doing

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our outreach for those who serve on the border, they had mentioned how there's something about

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first, those who are the first, those who have paved the way, like a John the Baptist

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who paved the way the first.

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And when you were sharing that, it reminds me of how though the rest of your family may

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not have known the Lord, but because you took that first step and because you committed

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to the Lord, it opened up a segue to the scripture that says you and your household

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shall be saved.

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And I think about my own family, I was the eldest son.

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And as a result of me making a stand for Lord, I was the first in the family.

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I was the first.

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And as a result, each one began to acknowledge Jesus as Lord.

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And so I see that even with you that you made that commitment to one another, to the Lord,

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to the calling of God.

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And God has been able to add all of your family to the place of joining the kingdom of God

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as well.

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Getting back to your service as well, and then your transition into the renewal that

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I know that back in the 70s also, and actually continued on throughout the 80s, there was

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a renewal, the Charismatic Renewal that happened in the Catholic Church, happened in Episcopal

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churches, happened in Methodist.

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It happened in ways that no one expected, but it was a commonality of the Holy Spirit

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moving that brought a lot of people together crossing racial, denominational, and generational

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lines.

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People that wouldn't seem to get along were all getting along because of the commonality

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of the presence of God.

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I've been talking to friends and people who were part of the Jesus movement, and they

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said there is uncanny similarities in the sense of what they sensed was happening during

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that time during the Jesus Revolution, the Charismatic Renewal, the outpouring of the

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Holy Spirit.

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There are some things that seem to be percolating right now that are very similar, and they

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have this sense that God is about to do something.

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You sense that as well?

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Oh yes, certainly when that revival broke out in Asbury, every night we'd go to YouTube

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and watch the services at Asbury Chapel.

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Kind of the amazing thing was in 1970, the same thing was happening at Asbury.

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They had a revival at Asbury in 1970, and there's something else that's kind of unexplainable,

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and I'm not going to attempt to predict why it's that way.

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But the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 1970, and they won it this year.

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Wasn't there a word?

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I think sometimes God does that just to show us that it's Him doing it.

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I heard that there was a word, I think it was Bob Jones, the late Bob Jones or others

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that said when the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl again, that there would be

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an outpouring of revival.

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Take those kinds of words and you put it on the shelf, but then all of a sudden they won

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not just once but twice in the last few years.

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We see then, of course, what you just said.

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I didn't see the correlation until just now that Asbury outpouring, Kansas City Chiefs

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won the Super Bowl back in 1970, and then we see where it is today.

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It's like God is obviously up to something, and I'm encouraged in the midst of all the

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unravelings and the shakings and the challenges and human and natural crises going on in the

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world, we are ripe for an awakening in the church and ripe for revival in the land, aren't

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we?

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Well, I guess so.

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You know, in the 1970s and even after that, the charismatic removal kind of renewal kind

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of swept the country and really other countries as well.

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And we were watching a Christian news channel last night and they were reporting that at

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least now this Asbury revival has spread to at least 200 other locations, not only schools,

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but churches and businesses all around the country.

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So we're suspecting that God's doing it again, and it seems like He's preparing His Bride

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for the soon coming bridegroom.

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So preparing the church for a harvest.

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The Lord has a way of having a scarlet thread in the midst of what seems to be detours,

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challenges.

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I remember prior to Asbury happening, there were some things percolating in different

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campuses where there seemed to be like this hunger and this desire for the presence of

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God.

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And so out of just a happenstance, I got a phone call from one of our partner ministries,

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Medical Missions International and Dr. Stuart Cordemont, who happens to live in College

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Station near Texas A&M and actually used to teach some there.

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He said, Doug, our speaker, Tommy Tenney, was unable to make it.

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And we do this once a month gathering tent revivals in different churches to get the

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kind of stir the winds of revival and working with these students here at A&M and the regional

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areas and students in colleges.

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And he said, is there any way you could take His place?

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And this is the last time I get, oh my goodness, I couldn't do two nights, but I said I could

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do the second night.

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So I went and sure enough, even though it was raining, even though it was a wet and

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rainy night, there was quite a few that gathered from these different schools and from A&M.

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You could sense there was something in this next generation saying, look, our hope is

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not in the institutions that seem to be failing us and imploding.

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There's something happening.

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And so I was honored to be there that one night.

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And then you fast forward, you see Asbury and all of a sudden, like you said, over 200

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campuses now experiencing something where the Lord is showing up and it's student led.

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It's not something that's being forced or try to make it happen.

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This is something organic that's happening that's like the Jesus movement and other out

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points where it became kind of a spontaneous organic move of God that is very encouraging

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to see and to hear about.

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Well, and it's happening to the younger people, the young generation.

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And I think our young generation are hurting.

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They're wounded in many cases.

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They don't see hope in the future like we did years ago.

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And God is visiting them and healing them and restoring them to his kingdom and restoring

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their hope and their future.

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Ministering to the young people and not leaving the older ones out.

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I want to be a part of it.

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Me too.

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Seems to be starting among the young people, doesn't it?

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I always tell all of our young friends, they look, we were young one time too.

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So don't leave us on this side of the river.

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Take us with you.

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We can be there for wisdom, encouragement, you know, they're going to come at a time

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you're going to need that.

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Oh, they said, come along.

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We'll make sure you don't leave us out here.

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Take us with you.

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So I do believe that we're going to see a multi-generational outpouring of the presence

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of God.

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And sometimes it comes through difficult times and through challenges, but it gets our attention.

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We get back to our first love.

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And then we see a sweeping move of the Holy Spirit that brings people into the kingdom

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and transforms lives.

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And because here you are looking at your bio, knowing you're part of your story, you are

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a very brilliant man, your family that you've raised in the Lord.

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At the same time, this calling to help a friend that was a mentor and also started Galcom.

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How did you transition into that?

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And then of course, did you have any idea that it was going to become the organization,

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this nonprofit that is as huge as it is today?

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Actually no, the man that started it is Harold Kent.

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And it was his home meeting that we started going to way back in the 70s.

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He and Joanne were having a home fellowship.

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And about the time I was getting out of the Air Force, he had gotten this word from the

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Lord and really an assignment to start Galcom International, to start sending solar powered,

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fixed tuned radios to the mission field to those that are oral learners.

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And there's a really in the unreached part of the world, a large percentage of them are

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oral learners.

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They prefer to learn by oral means rather than by reading and a lot of cases, even non-literate

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people.

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And so when I got out of the Air Force, he asked me what I was going to do and I didn't

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really know.

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He sent offers from a couple of colleges to teach, but he said, well, could you help me

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with Galcom?

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And I said, well, okay.

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So at that time, it was basically a checkbook and a tablet sheet with about 30 names on

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So I had to wind up building an international ministry with that beginning 501c3 public

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charity.

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And so I began working very often kids that I stepped out of a jet fighter into a spare

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bedroom with my desk facing a wall and sat there at a desk for a number of years, trying

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to get Galcom off the ground.

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But it was the grace of the Lord.

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It was an assignment that the Lord gave me and I knew it was from him.

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As I'm thinking back on it, when I came to the Lord, I had only about 12 years in the

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Air Force and I thought, you know, I'll bet God's going to call me out and send me to

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Africa or something.

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And, you know, I wasn't really looking forward to that, but I knew whatever the Lord had

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me do, I would have to do.

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And I was reading in first Corinthians, I think at seven, about 20, where it says, abide

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in the calling wherein thou art called.

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And when I read that scripture, I thought, oh, OK, I guess it's OK to stay here in the

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Air Force until he calls me out.

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Well, it got to be about 29 years and I was planning to retire at 30 anyway.

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And I thought, well, I guess the Lord forgot he never called me out.

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And Mary and I were skiing at a ski area in Western Virginia.

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And I see this sign on the lift station that said, Colonel Nelson, report, you have a message

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at the ski office.

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So we went over there and it was a message from the Pentagon, Colonel Goodrich, saying

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you've been selected for retirement next August.

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He said, if you have any questions, you know, make an appointment and come come up and see

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me.

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And I said, well, that sounds pretty clear.

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I don't have any questions.

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So actually, the Lord did call me out.

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You know, it was because that's when he needed me to take over and start GALCOM and help

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Harold out.

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And it just kind of confirmed that the Lord said, just stay where you are until I call

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you out.

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And he did.

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He called me out.

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And it was kind of a confirmation that this was an assignment from the Lord that he had

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for me to do.

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So I worked for a number of years.

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Well, like what you said, it was an assignment from the Lord because a friend of mine who

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is an Orthodox rabbi in Jerusalem says that in the original Hebrew, there is no word for

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retirement, just means a different assignment.

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And so it's truly for you, although you served 30 years in the Air Force, that that was a

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retirement in the natural, but really for a reassignment by the Lord for the next decades

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of your life to impact so many other people in different ways.

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I've got a lot of Bibles and I've never found the word retirement in any one of them.

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I think he always has a calling and a purpose for us.

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And I think he'll call us home when our job is done.

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But until we're finished, he has something for us to do.

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Now who would have thought that the development of GalCom, the technology that you've been

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developing even since the beginning, that I know we've been beneficiaries of that technology

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and what you've done through our ministry.

446
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Even before your daughter Jodi became our vice president, like I said, in Botswana and other

447
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,920
places, of course, Jodi and I are involved in the ministries of somebody cares are involved

448
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,000
a lot of disaster relief.

449
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,160
And so during major hurricanes of the Gulf of Mexico, where their communications towers

450
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,280
are down, your technology has been a huge help.

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00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,240
In fact, I think we were working with friendships and others.

452
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,020
They were able to take GalCom and use that as a transmission to a certain range within

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00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:40,040
so many miles of people to get information when all the other communication towers were

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down.

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00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:47,640
So it wasn't just used for sending out radio, one way radio into certain areas of the bush.

456
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It was also used for disasters.

457
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:55,100
And of course, we've worked together and sending quite a few portable full Bibles.

458
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People are asking in the Ukraine, they were wanting Bibles in the midst of all the war

459
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,140
that started there with Russia and Russia's invasion.

460
00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:06,800
And they were wanting Bibles in their language, and yet to take full Bibles and send them

461
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,080
would be very cumbersome.

462
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:14,640
And yet you were able to help supply and partner with us to get audible Bibles on the size

463
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
of a cell phone and send them out there.

464
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,880
And that went like hotcakes.

465
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,880
People were loving it.

466
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,680
Pastors or Ukrainian pastors say this is great.

467
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,040
And even chaplains that were working with the Ukrainian military and others that were

468
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,520
loving these Bibles because it was in their language, Ukrainian language, the full Bible

469
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,880
on these little apparatuses that you all had developed and partnered with us on.

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00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,440
So the technology has progressed over the years.

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00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,720
And who would have ever thought that when you started at Galcom, that it would have

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00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,720
that kind of impact even today.

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00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280
You talked about working down at the border.

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00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:57,880
We've recently been aware of a large group of Haitian refugees that are in Mexico and

475
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Rianosa trying to waiting to get into the United States.

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I don't remember how many, about 6,000.

477
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,760
So we've started sending Haitian Creole solar powered audio scriptures down to them and

478
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,520
distributing them in Rianosa.

479
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,520
I see Stacey on one of the panels here.

480
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Her and Tom are running Galcom now.

481
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,800
And Tom is down there now in Rianosa distributing some of the audio Bibles in Creole to them.

482
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,320
Yeah, God continues to use our audio tools.

483
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:41,520
I think two, three years ago, we reached over a million solar powered radios and I think

484
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,680
over two or three million audio Bibles.

485
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Of course, now we can put the audio Bible inside the radio.

486
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:54,320
There's an opportunity to have a radio tuned to a Christian radio station and also the

487
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,400
audio Bible embedded in the radio.

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00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,160
So they can have a choice to either listen to the radio or listen to the audio Bible.

489
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:07,160
It's amazing what we can do with the technology that God provides, but also the infrastructure

490
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,040
that you all established all those years ago that is going far beyond probably what you

491
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120
could have imagined back then.

492
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaking of Rianosa and also throughout the Rio Grande Valley that we were just in, I

493
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:25,240
was talking to the deputy director for that area for the border patrol and said that people

494
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,560
don't necessarily understand, but the dynamic of people coming across are from all over

495
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,960
the world.

496
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:38,360
And they said that in fact, they confiscated 380 million tablets of fentanyl that has primarily

497
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,760
been coming through from created in China and that the largest amount of people trying

498
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,040
to cross into the country are actually from China and from places in the Middle East as

499
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,040
well.

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So there's definitely an opportunity in the midst of trying to maneuver through a very

501
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,480
volatile and complex time in our country.

502
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,740
At the same time, the church needs to be on that front line with the gospel and planting

503
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:07,560
the seeds of the gospel because we know what we sow today becomes a harvest for the future.

504
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,240
I think most of these people coming across the border need Jesus.

505
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:18,960
And it's up to the church to present them with the gospel and church and mission organizations

506
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,880
like Somebody Cares and GALCOM.

507
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,480
There's a scripture in Psalm 2, ask of me and I'll give you the nations as an inheritance.

508
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Well, he's bringing them here, isn't he?

509
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:38,480
He's bringing people from I think I've heard numbers as high as 190 nations have come across

510
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,520
the border.

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They need to be reached with the gospel.

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They can be blessed in this country if they can come to know the Lord.

513
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,800
Well, that's the thing is that the first line of influence and defense is the gospel because

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as King Josiah when he had the reform of Josiah 622 BC, and yet Zephaniah really alluded to

515
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,600
this that you can change and legislate, which is fine.

516
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,680
But unless you deal with inward issues of the heart or corruption of the heart, there

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00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,120
will be no lasting change.

518
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,680
But we know the gospel changes hearts and transforms lives.

519
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,520
And that's our first line of defense is getting the gospel into the hearts of people to see

520
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,520
transformations.

521
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,960
I'm enjoying this time with you.

522
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Thank you so much for taking the time.

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00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,200
I want to move into something that maybe you've kind of talked about a bit, but all of us,

524
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,200
even as Christians, because people see this, read your bios, see the successes of your

525
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,880
life, what you've done in the Air Force as a teacher in universities, MIT and Boston

526
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,120
University, as well as what you've been able to do in your service through the nonprofit

527
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,120
and also the Galcom.

528
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,440
When people see that, it's almost like looking at social media today.

529
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,320
It's like you only see the good parts, but all of us are met with unexpected detours.

530
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,120
We get the wind knocked out of us and we wonder how we're going to get past this.

531
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,420
Have there been any incidences or a particular one that comes to mind as you encourage leaders

532
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:08,520
will be listening to this podcast?

533
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,880
Has there been times where you felt like the wind was getting knocked out of you and you

534
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,240
just didn't see any way out?

535
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,680
Like that time you didn't find a way you were going to be able to get out, but you found

536
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040
the Lord took you through those trees.

537
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Is there other times in your life that you felt like the Lord had to take you through

538
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,720
some very unexpected detours?

539
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:33,560
I'm very aware that the devil hates Christians and Christian leaders and his job is to steal,

540
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,560
kill and destroy.

541
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400
And he's pretty good at it.

542
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
He's been doing it for thousands of years.

543
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,080
He doesn't have to change his tactics because it always works.

544
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:51,440
But things that we've always watched out for was, you actually had a pretty good list in

545
00:36:51,440 --> 00:37:01,120
your book on leadership awakening about Christian leaders need to be careful about financial

546
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:09,200
indiscretions, sexual temptations, pride, power struggles, family issues, loss of vision,

547
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,200
and so forth.

548
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,520
In the military, there are quite a few Christians and there were always other believers in the

549
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,480
squadrons I was in.

550
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,720
But one particular assignment, we were being persecuted because of our belief and our stand

551
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:29,240
for the Lord and the leadership in the wing didn't like me.

552
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:35,860
So I missed an opportunity for my first round of promotion to Lieutenant Colonel.

553
00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:42,920
And then I was sent to Korea to serve a third unaccompanied tour.

554
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,640
And while I was in Korea, I was working for a two-star general, very demanding man, but

555
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,640
he liked me.

556
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,680
And so I did get promoted into Lieutenant Colonel under him.

557
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,740
And then when I left, he asked me what I wanted to do.

558
00:37:57,740 --> 00:38:00,520
And I said, well, I'd like to be an F-16 squadron commander.

559
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,040
So he recommended me for an F-16 squadron commander.

560
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,000
And I was assigned back to McDeal where they were just transitioning into the F-16.

561
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,120
I think partly because of his recommendation, I was able to get an F-16 squadron and get

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00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,860
another promotion.

563
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:24,220
So I wound up getting promoted to full colonel in the Air Force.

564
00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:26,080
But there were some struggles there.

565
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,960
We struggled with this third separation for a year.

566
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,880
The kids were in high school.

567
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,320
I think Jody was in junior high.

568
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,280
Debbie had started college in Utah.

569
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400
We were in Utah, living in Utah.

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So it was hard on the family, but God redeemed it.

571
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,400
It was amazing.

572
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:50,040
And really because of that assignment, we wound up with another son.

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00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,420
Because Mary came to pay me a visit in Korea, we wound up with another son.

574
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:59,520
So really the Lord really blessed us in that time of tribulation and trial.

575
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:06,840
I mentioned the different traps and shortfall, the traps that the devil throws at Christian

576
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,840
leaders.

577
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,600
There's a lot of casualties because of those traps.

578
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,320
And you enumerated them so well and covered them so well in your leadership awakening

579
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,320
book.

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360
That brings a good point.

581
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Because you, under that place of dealing with some pressure and some element of persecution,

582
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,400
that even kept you from seemingly at the moment from getting promoted.

583
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,960
And yet you're living out your convictions.

584
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Ultimately, the Lord was the one who still took you to the place of your promotion.

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,440
And I think sometimes as Christians, even in the workforce, in the workplace, we allow

586
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,040
and acquiesce to the compromises or the pressure around us, not realizing that if we stick

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:59,720
to our convictions in a godly way, that we will always outlast those who are persecutors,

588
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:06,320
those who are adversaries, even our adversities, if we will truly walk out our personal covenant

589
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,400
commitment to the Lord.

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00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,800
Do you find that to be true, that in the midst of whatever we go through, we need to have

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00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,920
standards that we know are uncompromising, that we will honor the Lord in those ways

592
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,480
and He will always bring us through those times of adversity?

593
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Again, I'm thinking of that song, the song, all my life, he's been so, so faithful.

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00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,000
And he is faithful.

595
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,800
As long as we continue to walk with him and trust in him, he is faithful.

596
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:39,080
And after my job as a squadron commander, there was a general that liked me and he wanted

597
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,280
me to get promoted to a brigadier general.

598
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,060
And he offered me a job at Langley as base commander, working for a four-star general

599
00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:51,640
so that I could make another promotion to brigadier general.

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00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,480
I told him, I said, well, I need to pray with that with my wife to see if that's what the

601
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,400
Lord wants me to do.

602
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,500
And this general was a Christian too, so he understood that.

603
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:07,880
So as we prayed, I felt like I felt a check in my spirit that I shouldn't take the job.

604
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040
So I called him back the next day, he was very disappointed.

605
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,380
And I said, no, I don't think I'm supposed to take that job.

606
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:19,280
And had I taken it and gotten promoted, I would have then served another five years

607
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,760
in the military in the general officer rank.

608
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,400
Turned out the Lord had another job for me and that was doing GALCOM.

609
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,680
So when I got out, the job the Lord wanted me to do was GALCOM.

610
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:39,560
And had I taken that position, the Lord would have found somebody else to do the job.

611
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,580
But I was his choice at that point.

612
00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:47,200
So it's just being faithful and following his prompting.

613
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:54,640
I think that's where the Lord had me for the next dozen or more years, 18 years.

614
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,340
So the Lord literally had a different promotion for you.

615
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:04,880
And now you have a lasting legacy because of the foundations you helped lay and even

616
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,480
through the sacrifices made and the price paid that you have now have this lasting legacy

617
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,920
of who knows how many people.

618
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,280
And remember the old song, thank you for giving to the Lord that as you stand before the throne

619
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,800
of heaven, how many people you would don't even know by name, maybe don't even know them

620
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,400
by face, will be able to say thank you for taking that promotion from the Lord.

621
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,840
And yet we could have justified the other, but yet you knew you had that check in your

622
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,720
spirit and you chose to take the promotion for the Lord and move to another situation

623
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,400
where you now you've impacted multiples of lives.

624
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,440
And of course, raised your family as well and walked in your calling.

625
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,920
Then I want to ask Jody, do you want it to make any comments?

626
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,520
Because the stories I listened to from Jody and the family, you and Mary are truly highly

627
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,120
regarded and respected and loved.

628
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,040
And what a great testament of the Lord in your life that you and Mary have been able

629
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,220
to create an environment by which all of your children truly do have a great respect and

630
00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:04,220
regard for you.

631
00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:07,800
Jody, would you, if you have any thoughts or questions or even comments, things that

632
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,920
maybe your father has not been able to share that you felt like needs to be addressed?

633
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,500
Back when he was talking about, we really grew up together as a family in the Lord.

634
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:26,440
Mom and dad were very intentional about bringing us along to the things that they were learning

635
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,440
in the Lord.

636
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,780
I mean, we did have family Bible study and devotion every night when dad was home early

637
00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:34,960
enough before we went to bed.

638
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,760
You know, I remember sitting around the dinner table writing on a big poster board, diagramming

639
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,240
all of the kings of the Old Testament and talking about the good kings and the bad kings.

640
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:52,600
And you know, when our family would face a trial, a challenge, we would pray together

641
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,060
and we would see God answer and we would talk about that God answered it.

642
00:43:56,060 --> 00:43:59,500
So we were not, you know, mom and dad weren't over there living their Christian life and

643
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:01,240
just bringing us kids along.

644
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:02,700
We were living it together.

645
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,860
We were seeing God move in our lives together.

646
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:11,320
We were seeing signs and wonders and miracles in our family together, which enabled us to

647
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,640
stand strong as a family and, you know, to pass those stories on to the next generation.

648
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,720
And in Deuteronomy or Numbers, you know, when Moses is instructing the children of Israel

649
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:29,680
in his final days, he says, you know, as you are walking with your children, tell them

650
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,760
about the stories of the Lord.

651
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Talk about what the Lord has done in your life as you're working, as you're walking,

652
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,760
as you're sitting at the table.

653
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,720
And that was true of our family, which had made a marked impact on me.

654
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:49,600
Even, you know, I had a few rebellious years in my teenage years, which mom and dad prayed

655
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,420
me through, which I'm very thankful for.

656
00:44:52,420 --> 00:45:00,820
But even during that time, I always knew God was God and I always had boundaries.

657
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:05,920
Even when I was in rebellion, there were always boundaries I would not cross.

658
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440
And I'm very thankful for that from a young age.

659
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,680
And seeing them also not cross boundaries when we were in Utah, we knew that dad and

660
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,680
mom was under persecution.

661
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,960
I mean, he, you know, he didn't give us all the gory details, but we knew enough, you

662
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,120
know, by what they said that he was undergoing persecution and he was standing for righteousness.

663
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:32,120
So that builds up the family as a whole to be able to do that in the future.

664
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So I, you know, I'd say thank you for doing that because it's provided all of us with

665
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,820
a legacy of walking with the Lord.

666
00:45:40,820 --> 00:45:45,920
During that time when we were, you know, studying the Bible, reading the Bible together, one

667
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,440
time we were reading in Joshua, Joshua 24, 15, where Joshua is instructing the children

668
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,800
of Israel and he says, choose through this day whom you'll serve, whether the gods on

669
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the other side of the river or the gods of the Amorites among whom you now live or but

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as for me in my house, we will serve the Lord.

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And at that point, when we read that as a family, I said, we need to adopt that as our

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family verse and a family covenant.

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But as for me in my house, we will serve the Lord.

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And they have all followed that covenant and the Lord has been faithful to that covenant.

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So I think that was a key decision in our lives just to decide we will serve the Lord.

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Amen.

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Well, there are very few people as well deserving for lifetime service acknowledgement.

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And thank you, Gary and Mary.

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Not only have you showed success in what you did in your career in the Air Force, serving

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this country, serving GalCom and helping to establish that and build that up to what it

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is today, but also obviously the lasting legacy from your children, your children's children,

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because you laid out foundational principles for lasting success and that so many today

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when they have cracked foundations, so many insecurities and challenges in the world in

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which we live, those are so necessary.

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And another lasting legacy is to know that while in a world where a large majority of

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people either don't get married or they're going through divorces and divorces and divorces,

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and yet you and Mary have been married, is it 64 years?

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Yeah.

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In just a few days, we'll have our 64th.

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Well, thank you for your example in so many ways.

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And we are so grateful for your service.

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Thank you for your example to all of us of what lasting success really is.

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Even through the difficulties that come in life, you've not compromised your convictions

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and the foundational principles that God gave you and you gave to your family.

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Gary, would you take a moment now in closing and pray for those who'll be listening to

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the podcast?

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Pray for others to find that place of consistency and success as leaders in their own right.

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Yeah, Lord, we just I just thank you for the opportunity to share our story, Lord, on how

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how you have been faithful all my life, all our lives.

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You've been so faithful, Lord.

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And I just pray for all those listening, Lord, that they will realize that even though at

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times it seemed dark, but you are faithful, Lord, and you have you've been watching over

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them all these years.

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And Lord, I just pray for particularly Christian leaders, Lord, that they'll not succumb to

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the temptations of the devil, but just maintain their faith and not lose heart.

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Lord, sometimes it doesn't look like it's working out all right.

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But Lord, in the end, you are faithful and you are trustworthy.

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Lord, I just pray that this word would just penetrate the hearts of those listening, Lord,

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and that they would realize that we serve a great and mighty God who is faithful.

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In Jesus name, I pray.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Well, Jody, do you have any final comments before we close?

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A lot of the the things that I've learned and saw in my parents, I try to live out as

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they follow Christ.

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You know, it's the Paul says as follow me as I follow Christ.

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And I do that with them.

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And, you know, whenever someone asks me who are who are the people that you look up to

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the most, I have to say it's it's my mom and dad.

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And I know that I'm truly grateful for that, because unfortunately, there are many that

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don't have that example in their natural families.

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But in their spiritual family, they can have that as leaders, really, all of us believers

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open up our lives and our hearts to the harvest that's coming.

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I will say that when we first became believers, I mean, I was six years old, but we used to

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go out to Harold and Joanne Kent's house and they were our spiritual parents.

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They really guided and led us in our young spiritual walk and became family to us even

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all these years later.

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The Kent family and the Nelson family, we're we're we really are family still.

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And I would say as this new harvest is coming, God's bringing in a whole going to bring in

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a whole new new generation of believers.

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Those of us who've walked with the Lord need to open our hearts and our lives to them.

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We've been in a few years where we've all been holed up in our houses.

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And God's saying it's time to come out.

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Amen.

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Well, Gary, Mary, I was thinking, as Jody was sharing, that not only did you have a

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huge impact as you served as a veteran for our nation, but also through Galcom.

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And in large part, you've had a huge influence on Somebody Cares International because you've

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raised up your daughter, Jody, to become our vice president.

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And who would have known that?

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And in all these years that the investment that you had in her and in your children has

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now impacted our ministries on every continent around the world.

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So thank you again.

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So thankfully, you took the time today to be our guest.

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We just pray for God's richest blessings over you.

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And again, we thank you for your life.

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Thank you for your example.

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Thank you for your leadership example in so many ways, not just in the military, but also

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through the work you've done in your family, as well as the investments you've made in

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all of us.

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So thank you so much for being with us.

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We hope you enjoyed this episode of A Word in Season with Doug Stringer and Friends and

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