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but have also exposed occult behavior going on in churches.
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They don't even know because they're not even being taught.
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And so the enemy is very slick.
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All he does is just take an occult practice
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and he relabels it and sprinkles it with some Christianese
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and people buy into it.
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Pastor Billy Crone, it's great to have you here on Charisma.
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And I've been looking forward to this
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because I had that opportunity to look at
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some of your YouTube channel videos
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and you have done quite an extensive deep dive
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into some very, let's say interesting topics
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that the church doesn't normally talk about at all.
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And most of the time it says,
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let's just save that for the fringe group over there.
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But you're dealing with it head on on Sunday mornings
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at any other time that you can
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because these are things that the church needs to deal with.
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And I'm talking about secret societies
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and different things like that.
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So before we get into that though, Pastor Billy,
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I wanna let people hear your testimony.
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You started telling me a little bit beforehand,
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but I was blown away already.
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So just to tell us about who Pastor Billy is.
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Well, yeah, thanks, John.
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Thanks for having me on it's a treat.
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And yeah, what a privilege to be able to share God's story,
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it's his story of what he's done with a wretch like me.
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And hopefully we would encourage people to never give up.
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I was a blast streamer.
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I was not raised in the church.
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I grew up in the Midwest, Kansas, Nebraska.
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I was turned off to Christianity early on,
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basically with the hypocrisy that I saw growing up.
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I've done just about every drug out on the sun,
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was involved in all kinds of sin, immorality,
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but basically a 1980s, ex headbanger, drug addict,
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sexually immoral, male show-off pig guy
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involved in the occult.
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When I was about 16 years old,
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I was so depressed and longing for purpose in life.
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I unfortunately did my first prayer
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and that was a prayer to Satan.
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And I said, Satan, you could have this life
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if you give me power and significance.
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And to show his character,
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John chapter eight, Jesus said, Satan is a liar.
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He's the father of all lies.
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He's a murderer and he's been one from the beginning.
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Well, within three months of that, sure enough,
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I tried to kill myself three different times
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and twice with pills, that didn't work.
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So I shot myself once in the chest here with a rifle.
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And to be honest with you, John, I didn't want to die.
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That was, I guess, my unfortunate way
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of letting people know that I'm dying on the inside
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and I don't have any answers.
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And the sad thing is I was surrounded
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by people who profess to be Christians.
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I was surrounded by churches,
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but nobody was telling me about Jesus.
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And again, back to the hypocrisy,
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when I'm wanting answers for life,
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the guys that I'm partying with during the week,
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on the weekends, doing the sinful rotten things,
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guess where they would go on Sundays
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if they weren't too hungover or strung out?
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Church services.
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So of course they weren't telling me about Jesus.
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And of course the message though
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they were loudly declaring to me was,
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apparently Christianity is a joke
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because I don't see no change in you and no difference.
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You're just like me.
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So when I finally got awakened to spiritual things,
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wanting to find out what is life all about,
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why am I here?
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And the classic bare bones questions that everybody has,
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I was on my own.
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So unfortunately I went from making that pact with Satan.
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I ended up moving from Kansas to California.
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And for a while I tried to reform my life
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and get an education.
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I cut my hair and did all those things
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that society says you need to have a successful,
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great life and fill that hole in your heart.
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And unfortunately, one of my roommates,
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he turned me on to the satanic Bible, Anton LeVay.
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And that invited unfortunately a lot of demonic activity
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that most likely if I wasn't already by then,
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I was probably, that was my first time being possessed.
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And then I went from there to make matters worse.
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I had a coworker who introduced me into New Age.
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And New Age, if your audience is not familiar with that,
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it's basically making up your own religion as you go.
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You get to be God, the live Genesis three,
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you get to determine what's right and wrong.
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And so it's kind of like a cafeteria.
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You go down the line and you say,
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I want a little bit of this,
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I'll put that on my plate.
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I'll take a little bit of this and put it on my plate.
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Same thing when it comes to religion.
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So I'll take a little Buddhism, I'll sprinkle that on.
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I'll do some Easter mysticism.
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I'll even do some self-help secular psychology.
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I'll just, maybe even a little bit of Christianity.
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Nothing convicting.
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Everybody loves the golden rule,
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but you just throw it all together
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and that becomes your reality.
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Well, with that reality comes,
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you're trained to become a disseminator of this truth,
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this new truth that you get to make up.
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And in order to get that truth,
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you have to have the space brothers, believe it or not,
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UFOs came into this, the spirit guides
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and things of that nature to come inside you
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and speak through you, which I didn't know at then,
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but obviously now it's communicating
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that mediumship that God condemns in Deuteronomy 18.
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But now I'm multiply possessed.
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And of course you go down this route, the darker it gets.
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And what was happening, John,
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I literally right before I got saved,
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these guys were either, they were trying to kill me.
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So I would join them one day in the lake of fire
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or, and or they were driving me insane.
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In fact, even as a non-Christian, right before I got saved,
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it got so bad that I had to watch TV or read a book
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or just look at something to maintain my sanity.
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They were driving me insane.
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In fact, as a, and this is what came to my mind,
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even as a non-Christian,
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that I was walking a razor's edge in my mind,
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being demon possessed.
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And that if I didn't fight this,
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if I even just for, if I slacked off
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even for just a little bit,
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I literally knew what it was gonna be like
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to go insane and not come back.
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And that literally went through my mind.
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What makes it worse is I can't string enough words together
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in English to describe to you
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what is it like to be demon possessed
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because it's not on the outside of you, that's bad enough.
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It's on the inside of you and you're not in control.
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And then when that thought hits you, it just fuels it.
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So anyway, long story short, I didn't see it coming.
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It was almost like God says, okay, now's the time,
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snaps his finger from heaven, so to speak,
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says, watch what I do with this fool.
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And so the demonic tear, I just got into my apartment,
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it hit me again, I was all by myself.
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I scared me so bad this time that my reaction though,
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this time was I ran to my bedroom, I was 25,
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I dropped on my knees and I said,
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I said, God, if you're real and you want this slide,
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if you can have it.
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I spent the last 25 years messing it up.
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But I knew enough that I needed to call upon
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the name of Jesus Christ from two Christians
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who dared to witness to me and I was mean and nasty to them.
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I was mean and nasty to every Christian,
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I was a blasphemer.
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And so I followed that up with this, Jesus Christ,
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would you please forgive me and save me?
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And bang, instantly, man, it was just like the scripture
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says, from darkness to light, instantaneously.
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It was like the way the world came out of me shoulders,
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I'm sure that was the demons leaving me.
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The first couple of days, I'm not joking,
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it's like somebody messed with the color hue.
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The sky was bluer, the grass was greener.
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I mean, it was just, I was a brand new creation in Christ.
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And basically, I'm all by myself.
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All I knew is I called upon the name of Jesus Christ
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and something had radically changed.
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I started going to church services,
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I figured that's what you're supposed to do.
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I'm a Christian now.
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I found a Bible, started reading it,
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I figured that's what you're supposed to do.
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I'm a Christian now.
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And so two weeks old in the Lord,
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I'm reading the Bible before I go to bed
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and I close it and I simply said, God, I wanna know more.
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So the next day, I woke up with the idea
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that would not leave my brain, go to Bible college.
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And I'm going, man, God, that can't be you
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because I'm disqualified.
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I'm the guy that was involved in the occult,
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the drug addict guy, the blasphemer, no way.
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Anyway, long story short, it persisted.
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Eight weeks after I got saved, I'm in Bible college.
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I was not raised in the church.
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I knew nothing.
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I had to keep my thumb at the beginning of the Bible
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just to find out, okay, what book, where's that?
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I knew nothing.
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I just wanted to learn.
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I had no idea that God was gonna call me
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to do what he's having me do today.
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I just wanted to know more.
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And so basically, eight weeks after I'm saved,
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I'm in Bible college and for the next seven years,
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I'm there in the later seminary.
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I started pastoring before I graduated Bible college
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in California, which is where I got saved,
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Northern California.
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Then for several years there, and then I took a position.
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I pastored for five years in New York,
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and now I've been 13 years in Vegas.
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Wow.
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So you went from darkness to light in a drastic way.
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And I find it very interesting that in today's day and age,
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there is a rise of cessationists.
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That it seems like that's something that they're,
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they're coming more of a forefront,
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attacking the spiritual.
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And so in saying that that doesn't exist,
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you have a very unique vantage point
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where you came from such darkness in the occult,
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in Satanism, where that is nothing but spiritual.
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But now you're dealing with good spiritual things
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on God's side.
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So whenever you're, whenever somebody brings up,
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oh, that's not real, how do you deal with that?
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Well, one, always go back to the scripture.
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And that's why I say all the time, John,
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and when I teach, I say, and where am I getting this?
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The readers digest my personal opinion, social media.
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Oh, that's right.
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I'm quoting the Bible, Old and New Testament.
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You talk about spiritual warfare.
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You talk about demons.
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You talk about the reality of, of evil in the Bible.
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The reality of, of evil.
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And Satan is not a joke.
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It's, it's real.
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Demons are real.
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It's all over the Bible, Old and New Testament.
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What verse do you want?
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How many do you want?
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And as a Christian,
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we're supposed to be taught the whole council of God.
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So how can you sit there and cherry pick
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and dance around something that's all over the Bible?
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Not an isolated case here and there
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that you could try to excuse away.
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This is everywhere.
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Well, I think I know why.
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Number one, if you were the enemy,
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then what's one obvious thing
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that you would try to get people to do?
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Not believe in your existence.
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Because then you would have a heyday.
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And John, I don't know if you've seen the recent stats.
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65% of those who profess to be Christians
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in the United States of America
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do not believe in a literal devil.
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I wonder who put that idea in their head.
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So if I was Satan, of course I wouldn't want people to know
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because then you're gonna give him even more free rein.
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And that's why for years, you can see behind me,
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I've written so many books, not just on the occult,
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but a lot of them,
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but I've also exposed occult behavior going on in churches.
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They don't even know because they're not even being taught.
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And so the enemy is very slick.
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All he does is just take an occult practice
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and he relabels it and sprinkles it with some Christianese
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and people buy into it because they're not being taught.
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And again, these are not isolated texts.
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Read the scripture.
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The Bible is a supernatural book.
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Yes, God is supernatural.
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The good news is he's above and beyond.
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Psalm chapter two,
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he's the one who sits enthroned in heaven last.
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He's the one to control, right?
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Satan is not a loose cannon on deck.
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He only gets to do what God allows him to do, right?
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And they have their day of judgment.
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They are all headed.
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Satan and the demons, Matthew 25, Jesus, the cleric.
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That's what hell was originally created for.
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It was for them, right?
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And so their date of destiny is there.
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But guess what?
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That judgment day hasn't come yet.
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So this is why the scripture is replete.
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This is why Paul says repeatedly in the New Testament,
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not all of our battles are against flesh and blood.
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Sometimes, guess what?
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You're going to experience spiritual warfare.
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And I'll just add this real quick.
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And it's not just in the church, John.
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It's everywhere in the world.
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And part of that is the programming on purpose
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that's opening people up to receive occult behavior,
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thinking that it's a good thing.
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They're rejecting Christianity,
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but people deep down side still want
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to have a spiritual experience.
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And so the church not warning people,
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it could be not just the church, but people in general,
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they're backing up into the occult in droves.
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In all forms, Satanism, voodoo, shamanism, witchcraft,
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you name it, it's all on the rise.
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And then the irony is, the Bible says in Revelation 9,
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that's exactly what's going to happen in the last days.
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It's going to get so bad that the planet is going to be
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littered with people who literally worship demons.
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And so all that's coming into play,
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it's all there in the scripture.
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It's just sad that people don't want to believe it,
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or dare I say, they flat out just don't want to hear it.
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And man, that's just opening up.
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The irony is, it's opening up to the very thing
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they don't want to hear or believe in, spiritual warfare.
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Yeah.
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You know, Pastor Billy, you said something
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that I got to dig deeper in.
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You said, occult practices sneaking into the church.
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I want to hear what those are,
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because I know that the devil
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doesn't have any creativity himself.
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He uses, he basically creates counterfeits
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of what God has given.
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So there is real things, and then there's counterfeits.
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But we let the counterfeits in thinking it's real sometimes.
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We need discernment big time.
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Help us understand some of these occult practices
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that have snuck into churches,
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and how we can have discernment to deal with those
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and keep out new ones.
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Yeah, well, some of it is just a flat out, full on attack
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by the occult, and since people don't even want to believe
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in that, then they're coming in the church.
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They used to be outside and all that stuff,
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but no, they're in.
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And they're not just in, John.
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I've got actual pastoral reports warning churches
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of what is going on in different parts of the world.
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And dare I say, even the United States.
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And I'll just give you a couple of quick examples.
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Number one, Satanists are getting so chummy with the church
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that they come in, and they're very slick.
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The enemy, he doesn't just always come in
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with like what I experienced, you know,
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with full on demon possession, terror, ah, you know,
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that's true, that does happen.
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But the Bible also says that Satan masquerades
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as an angel of light.
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And so sometimes he dupes you with good feelings,
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and so he is good cop, bad cop, kind of, you know,
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he plays on you, but both are bad.
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So I'll give you a case in point,
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and this is actual reports, actual testimonies.
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Satanists have come into church, a lot of them,
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that's part of their rituals.
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With Satanism, they have to break every commandment
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because it's all about rebelling against God,
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doing everything the exact opposite,
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it's called the law reversal of what God says.
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And sometimes their initiations
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is to specifically go into churches.
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Now, sometimes they'll instill fear,
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they'll do the break in and do the pentagram
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and spray paint and tag churches,
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and that'll freak people out.
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A lot of times, John, though, it's very much subtle,
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and they go in specifically to destroy churches.
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Let me give you a case in point.
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His name is Glenn, he's a generational Satanist,
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he was being trained to be the next high priest
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in his family, Satanists, finally got saved.
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So he came out, he said, here was his tag,
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he was tasked with taking down
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this particular church in the town.
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And you know how he did it?
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He didn't spray paint, he didn't vandalize,
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he didn't instill fear.
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He went into the church, he learned Christianese,
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he learned to say, amen, hallelujah.
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But he wasn't talking about Jesus.
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And he sat there in this quote, Baptist church
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for two years, and you know how he brought that church down?
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He sat there for two years, every service,
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and all he did was murmur and complain.
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He turned to somebody and say,
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can you believe that?
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The pastor doesn't know what he's talking about.
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What a joke.
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Did you see those people over there?
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What a bunch of hypocrites, whatever.
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Can you believe the decision the deacon board just made?
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Those guys are dumb, they have no right
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to be in the leadership.
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He's so discord to bring the church down.
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It's that subtle, John.
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I'll give you another one.
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That's satanist, witches, witches.
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This goes on a lot.
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People don't realize this.
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In fact, witches, oftentimes they'll be in the service
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and they will be muttering as the pastor's preaching,
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muttering their incantations.
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People think they're speaking in tongues.
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They're muttering their curses upon the people.
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Oftentimes, they really hype it up,
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especially when the pastor's preaching
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because he's preaching the word of God.
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And so they will be doing their curses
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to put a spirit that people are lethargy
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and falling asleep.
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And I'm not saying it happens every time,
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but man, you go to church service next thing,
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you're like, man, I was just all bright and chippy
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and what's all the sudden?
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I can't even keep my eyes open, you know?
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And things of nature.
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But it isn't just they're sitting in the pews,
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satanists or witches, John,
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they're working and warming their way into positions.
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Now that could be starting with getting involved
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in the choir.
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Most churches don't even vet.
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I call it the warm body syndrome.
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What, you're gonna help?
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Okay, we'll put you on there.
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They don't even know if they're born again.
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They don't even ask the questions.
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Some of these people they're inviting is the occult people.
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They're warming their way into teaching Sunday school classes
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because everybody needs help, right?
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All churches, man, it seems you're short on good servants
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and help.
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Working their way into board positions
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and ultimately is to take over the church.
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Now I'll give you a case in point,
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this really happened to me
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in one of the places that I pastored.
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And I didn't find this out until right before
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God moved us on to another ministry.
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And I'm not joking, this really happened.
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It was at a board meeting.
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And out of the blue, John, out of the blue,
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this person begins to go into a tirade
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of how, you know, they're kind of just
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a little peeved at Christians.
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And how, you know, even as far back
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as the Salem witch trials
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and all the persecution upon the witches
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and I mean, after all, my family is from a generation
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of witches and whatever.
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And it was just like, what?
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What did, and you're waiting for them to, you know,
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can the camera to show up or them to say,
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hey, psych, just kidding, whatever.
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No, they're deadly serious.
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And so here's a person serving on a church board,
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generational witchcraft, mad at Christians.
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These are the people steering the church.
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I can tell you story after story after story
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of people involved in churches,
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coming to the churches and things of that nature.
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But the church can't put two and two together
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because the church 65% don't even wanna believe in this.
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The other big bulk, do the math, right?
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35%, they don't even wanna hear this.
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And so now the enemy used to be on the outside,
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they're giving free reign to come on the inside.
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And you wonder, John, why there's so much turmoil
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in churches today.
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It's not just natural.
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So Pastor Billy, you said that you dealt with this
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in the church that you were in.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm sure you've learned since then,
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but how do we identify this and keep it from happening?
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Well, part of it is, this is it.
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You gotta maintain the scripture.
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You keep preaching the scripture, all the scripture,
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not saying that you gotta speak on spiritual warfare
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every week, but you gotta hit it, right?
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Just like Bible prophecy, right?
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I'm not saying you gotta do it every week,
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but it makes up nearly one third of the Bible.
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You gotta hit it sometime.
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So normally I think some of this stuff,
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it comes out when you're preaching on it,
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because the enemy doesn't want you to
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reveal what's going on.
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Some of it is, God will show you what you're dealing with
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and you just gotta deal with it.
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And me personally, I was always trained
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that when the enemy shows his head,
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don't give him what he wants, right?
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He wants to disrupt, and I'm talking in church services.
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He wants to disrupt and he wants to take over.
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And he wants to be glorified.
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And let me explain that, because you might be going,
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oh, I'm gonna glorify Satan.
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Well, the word glorify means to give attention to.
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So when we say, I glorify God, or I'm here to glorify God,
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glorify God in all I do, it means to give attention to God.
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Right?
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So go back to that meaning.
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When you can only think about the enemy,
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when he grabs your attention and you can't shake it,
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or he grabs control of the service
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and that's all you can think about,
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you're glorifying him because that's where
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your attention's at.
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00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:37,740
And so the way I was trained was you see something,
519
00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:39,660
you deal with it, immediately shut it down
520
00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:42,500
and get back to getting your focus back on God.
521
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,060
I'll give you a case in point.
522
00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:47,740
This one was early on when I came here to Vegas.
523
00:19:47,740 --> 00:19:50,620
And a demon possessed person came in, man,
524
00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:52,940
in the middle of services, and it was a no-brainer.
525
00:19:52,940 --> 00:19:53,780
No-brainer.
526
00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:55,180
I mean, I'm right, I'm preaching, man,
527
00:19:55,180 --> 00:19:57,180
right when it's getting going.
528
00:19:57,180 --> 00:20:00,220
And all of a sudden this person stands up
529
00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:03,300
in the middle of congregation, profanity, profanity,
530
00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:06,300
I mean, just would at the top of their lungs.
531
00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:07,140
So what do you do?
532
00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:07,980
You let it happen?
533
00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:09,180
No.
534
00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:12,060
Deacons, please escort our guest out of the service
535
00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:14,460
and immediately, and they're still doing it, whatever,
536
00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:17,060
but I kid you not, within 10 seconds it was over,
537
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:18,540
I didn't bring attention to it,
538
00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:21,580
I immediately got back to my study and pressed on
539
00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:22,980
because the enemy wants to disrupt,
540
00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:25,580
he wants you to glorify him, and you just move on.
541
00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,300
So some of it, you preach on it,
542
00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:28,960
it's gonna rear its ugly head,
543
00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:32,300
and if it does rear its head,
544
00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:36,260
then you just deal with it effectively and biblically.
545
00:20:36,260 --> 00:20:39,340
But again, it's pretty simple.
546
00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:40,580
When you get in the scripture,
547
00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:43,780
God tells you a lot about Satan, a lot of his tactics.
548
00:20:43,780 --> 00:20:47,500
He wants to divide, he wants to destroy,
549
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,540
steal, kill, and destroy.
550
00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,460
He's a deceiver, he's a liar.
551
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:54,580
So anywhere where you see division,
552
00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:58,300
where you see gossip and slander, which causes division,
553
00:20:58,300 --> 00:20:59,460
it's a no-brainer, John.
554
00:20:59,460 --> 00:21:02,860
These are not coming from the spirit of God, right?
555
00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:07,420
And so oftentimes, and part of it is just, you know,
556
00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:09,820
you just learn, right?
557
00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:12,180
It's just like, I have a rule.
558
00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,720
I mean, it could be just people's sin nature,
559
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,460
but you can kind of sense it, right?
560
00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:19,940
Not only when you got somebody in the room that,
561
00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:22,980
okay, something's off, or what I call,
562
00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:24,660
when things get really obtuse,
563
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:27,900
not just your normal yippy yappy stuff like that,
564
00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:31,220
but it's like, okay, this one's out of the, whoa,
565
00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:33,580
that's usually a clue, okay, this is not normal.
566
00:21:33,580 --> 00:21:36,620
This one is one of those ones, Ephesians six,
567
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:38,740
and you better start looking at it spiritually.
568
00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:39,940
So Pastor Billy, you mentioned,
569
00:21:39,940 --> 00:21:42,100
we just talked about within the church,
570
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:44,940
but earlier you mentioned that it's all throughout society.
571
00:21:44,940 --> 00:21:46,900
It's permeated through society,
572
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,500
and I know from the videos that I've watched,
573
00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:53,740
you were doing a deep dive into Freemasons
574
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:58,060
and explaining the influence that they have
575
00:21:58,060 --> 00:21:59,820
all throughout our society.
576
00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:02,220
And honestly, it's something I've been interested in,
577
00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:04,700
but I didn't even know where to begin.
578
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,300
So your sermon was great about that,
579
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:09,940
and I know I'll probably just put links to that,
580
00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:12,660
but give us, kind of help us understand
581
00:22:12,660 --> 00:22:13,980
what are the Freemasons,
582
00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:16,100
and why are they such an influential thing,
583
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,740
but behind the scenes at the same time?
584
00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:18,580
Oh, okay, yeah, great question.
585
00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:22,060
Well, first of all, if you've seen anything on YouTube,
586
00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:24,920
learn to get off of YouTube, at least with our studies,
587
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,860
because we have so many that have been deleted,
588
00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:28,680
hacked, and banned.
589
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,700
If you ever wanna get everything that we do,
590
00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:32,860
all the stuff that you're missing,
591
00:22:32,860 --> 00:22:34,160
that they don't want you to see,
592
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080
that's our teaching website, getalifemedia.com.
593
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,780
But basically, the Freemasonry study,
594
00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:41,180
I did a 10-part study on that,
595
00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:43,180
and I didn't plan on this.
596
00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:46,020
It's just the way it worked out, go figure.
597
00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:47,980
That was the capstone of an occult study
598
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:50,300
I've been working on for several years.
599
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:53,740
I did 20 weeks on witchcraft, 16 weeks on Satanism,
600
00:22:53,740 --> 00:22:56,580
30 weeks on what I called voodoo, vampires,
601
00:22:56,580 --> 00:22:58,700
and rise of demon worship.
602
00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,700
And so basically, it ended up being 66 studies
603
00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,460
on six books, go figure.
604
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:07,920
So then I went from that occult study into occult societies,
605
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,100
with Freemasonry being the first one.
606
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,060
And that ended up being a 10-part study.
607
00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:14,040
You can get it book DVDs, or you can just watch it
608
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,500
on our website or download our app.
609
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:20,660
So, but basically, that one, again,
610
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,420
I was surprised, you're right.
611
00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:23,740
A lot of people, even Christians,
612
00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:25,480
have heard of Freemasonry,
613
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,660
but that's about all it's gone.
614
00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:29,660
And almost everybody has a story where,
615
00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:32,500
like, yeah, my grandfather, my uncle, or my dad,
616
00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:34,820
or, you know, or, you know, family member of this,
617
00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:37,700
or used to be in it, or still is in it, or whatever.
618
00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:39,860
And they just think it's a good old boys club.
619
00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:40,700
No, it's not.
620
00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:44,020
It's in the occult secret society.
621
00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:45,580
And this is what we expelled.
622
00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:48,260
And part of it, too, is it's not just in the world,
623
00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:49,240
it's in the church.
624
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,420
And I bring up examples, again,
625
00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:56,080
of not just experiencing occult behavior in the church,
626
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,220
but Freemasonry.
627
00:23:57,220 --> 00:24:00,980
In fact, this was my very first senior pastorate
628
00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:03,100
and my very first encounter with Freemasonry.
629
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,300
And what it was, I was four weeks in,
630
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:07,380
and I was just doing a basic polemic study
631
00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:08,860
at that time on Sunday
632
00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:11,740
on the uniqueness of Christ and the cross, right?
633
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:14,580
As opposed to other religions on the planet.
634
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:17,720
You know, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam,
635
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,180
even, you know, Jehovah's Witnesses,
636
00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:21,300
some of the pseudo-Christian cults.
637
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:22,980
And, you know, nothing really deep dive,
638
00:24:22,980 --> 00:24:26,860
just showing the uniqueness that Christianity is unique.
639
00:24:26,860 --> 00:24:27,700
Right?
640
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:28,900
All of the religions say that you are God,
641
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,260
you gotta become God, you gotta work your way to God.
642
00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:33,420
None of them have a cross, right?
643
00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:34,840
Christianity is unique, I kid you not.
644
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,620
So I get done with that sermon.
645
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:39,020
And the next thing you know, I get a phone call
646
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:42,260
from one of the pillars of the church, their wives,
647
00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:43,100
and said that, quote,
648
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,740
he, so-and-so was upset with what I preached on.
649
00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:46,580
I said, well, why?
650
00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,300
What was unbiblical about it?
651
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:49,740
And went on and on and said,
652
00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:51,240
well, I think you just need to meet with him.
653
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,100
So I drove out to his house, and he was a big guy,
654
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:57,140
and he looked down on me the whole time.
655
00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:59,820
And he's like a six foot six big old dude.
656
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:03,500
And he said, well, I don't think he should be talking
657
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,220
about other religions like that.
658
00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:06,300
I said, well, why not?
659
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:07,620
Well, I just don't think it's right.
660
00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:09,060
You know, he shouldn't do that.
661
00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:10,440
I said, well, wait a second.
662
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,300
If in fact, Jesus is the only way,
663
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,180
I didn't say he did, John 14, six,
664
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,060
he's the way, the truth, the life,
665
00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:17,420
no one comes to the Father except by me.
666
00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:20,260
That means every other path out there is a false path.
667
00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:22,020
And it's not a small issue.
668
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,900
It's not just, oh, they didn't make it to heaven.
669
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:25,180
No, the Bible's clear.
670
00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:27,540
If you don't go through Jesus, you go to hell.
671
00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:30,420
So how am I a loving Christian, Mr. So-and-so,
672
00:25:30,420 --> 00:25:33,460
if I don't tell people that all other paths are false
673
00:25:33,460 --> 00:25:34,480
that will lead you to hell,
674
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,640
and if I don't share them the good news,
675
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,260
that it is through Jesus Christ,
676
00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:39,180
and you can know for sure
677
00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:40,860
that you're on your way to heaven through him.
678
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:42,020
And he just went round and round.
679
00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:45,000
Of course, I'm dealing with it biblically, right?
680
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,860
And he went round and round.
681
00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:48,340
And so he was getting nowhere.
682
00:25:48,340 --> 00:25:49,740
And so I kid you not, John,
683
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,340
he looked down at me and he said,
684
00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:52,780
and he pointed his finger in my face, he says,
685
00:25:52,780 --> 00:25:56,300
listen, I've seen a lot of you come and a lot of you go.
686
00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:00,500
Turns out the guy's a Freemason in the church.
687
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:02,740
I don't think he was the only one.
688
00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:04,100
And a pillar in the church,
689
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,700
basically running the church behind the scenes.
690
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,200
And the reason why he rejected that
691
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,620
is because this is one of the many, many false,
692
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:14,540
unbiblical teachings of Freemasonry
693
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,580
that people need to wake up to.
694
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:19,980
They believe in a pluralistic deity.
695
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:22,400
They believe in universalism,
696
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,740
that all paths will eventually get you,
697
00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:25,580
they don't call it heaven,
698
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:28,320
they call it the grand lodge in the sky.
699
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,740
It's a works-based false gospel.
700
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:34,000
No different than trying to earn your way to heaven
701
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,500
as a Mormon or Jehovah's Witnesses
702
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,140
or all those other classic ones that we say,
703
00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:40,040
oh yeah, yeah, that's obviously works-based false gospel.
704
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Freemasonry is the same way.
705
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,340
That you have to be a good Mason.
706
00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:46,620
You have to follow the teachings of Masonry and do good things.
707
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:48,860
All these guys, you think about Shriners,
708
00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:50,820
Shriner hospitals and all that stuff,
709
00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:52,220
you think, oh, these are so altruistic.
710
00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:53,700
No, they're doing that because they believe
711
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:55,540
they have to do these good deeds
712
00:26:55,540 --> 00:26:57,620
in order to get to the grand lodge above.
713
00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:59,620
And then speaking of Shriners,
714
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:01,460
see, there's many different branches of Freemasonry.
715
00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:03,340
Just like, and I use this loosely,
716
00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,380
just like there's many different denominations
717
00:27:05,380 --> 00:27:07,700
of Christianity, there's many different branches
718
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,120
of Freemasonry, right?
719
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,260
You got your Scottish Rite,
720
00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:12,320
and these are just the ones in America.
721
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,860
You got your York Rite,
722
00:27:13,860 --> 00:27:16,900
which eventually you can get into the Knights Templar.
723
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,280
And then you got your Prince Hall,
724
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,020
that's for the black African community, Freemasonry.
725
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:24,580
You got ladies Freemasonry, youth Freemasonry.
726
00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:26,980
But you also have the Shriners.
727
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:29,460
And the Shriners, the interesting thing about Shriners
728
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:33,360
is at one point as a Shriner, you have to,
729
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,940
and this is in print, it's on video,
730
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:36,440
it's not a conspiracy theory.
731
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,380
You have to pledge obedience and allegiance
732
00:27:41,380 --> 00:27:46,380
to the God of Islam, Allah, and Muhammad as your prophet.
733
00:27:47,140 --> 00:27:51,300
That's why they wear those red hats called a fez.
734
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,620
The fez, if you notice, has what on the front?
735
00:27:54,620 --> 00:27:59,620
Islamic swords or crescent, exactly, it's Islamic symbols.
736
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,920
And the reason why they're red and they're called a fez
737
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,500
is because that was symbolic of a victory
738
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:12,540
of the Muslims slaughtering Christians in Fez, Morocco,
739
00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,080
and they dip their hats in the Christian's blood.
740
00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:18,580
How can you be a Christian
741
00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:21,660
and be a part of something like this is beyond me.
742
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:23,180
But this is what we expose.
743
00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:24,000
I'll give you another one.
744
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,580
A lot of people say, they try to give people
745
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:26,420
a benefit of the doubt.
746
00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:27,620
Well, yeah, I get it.
747
00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:29,300
When you get up into the different degrees,
748
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,060
upwards, you wanna make it to the 32nd, 33rd degree,
749
00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:33,820
up to the very top,
750
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:35,340
that's when they drop the bomb on you
751
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:38,020
that the spirit they're really worshiping is Lucifer.
752
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,740
No, you find out a lot earlier than that.
753
00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:41,340
That's misnomer number one.
754
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,300
But people say, well,
755
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:46,300
they just went through the first three degrees
756
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,400
and they just thought, this is a good old boys club.
757
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,780
They do good works for the community.
758
00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:54,680
And the way they suck people in is they will say,
759
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,460
hey man, and you gotta be invited.
760
00:28:57,460 --> 00:28:58,380
They'll tap you on the shoulder,
761
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,420
including in the church service,
762
00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:02,940
and say, hey, would you like to come to the lodge?
763
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:05,140
But then they say, we'll help you with your business.
764
00:29:05,140 --> 00:29:06,700
We'll help you with this or that or whatever.
765
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:07,660
And they do.
766
00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:09,340
And so people think, oh, it's just a good boys club.
767
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:11,380
It's good for business and whatever.
768
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:12,220
But people say, well,
769
00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:13,340
they only went through the first three degrees.
770
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:14,620
They don't know about all this other
771
00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:17,180
Luciferian stuff that's going on.
772
00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:18,140
That's not true.
773
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:19,220
That's a huge misnomer.
774
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:21,380
I couldn't wait to expose that one.
775
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:25,980
Because the first three degrees that you have to take,
776
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:28,500
and this is their words, not mine, bloody oaths.
777
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:31,500
And let's just deal with the first degree.
778
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,100
We haven't even got to the third one.
779
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,180
The third one's what's called a master mason.
780
00:29:35,180 --> 00:29:38,660
But this is the insert apprentice.
781
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:40,300
So you're just starting out.
782
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,420
You tell me, John, if you're a Christian,
783
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:43,540
a true born again Christian,
784
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:44,620
and do all the Holy Spirit,
785
00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:46,900
that at some point the Holy Spirit's not gonna be screaming
786
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,660
at you to run, right?
787
00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:49,500
So here it is.
788
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:50,860
You get into the lodge,
789
00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:53,820
and the first thing they do is they blindfold you.
790
00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:56,540
It's called a hoodwink.
791
00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,500
As in, you get hoodwinked.
792
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:00,460
That's where we get that term from.
793
00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:02,060
It's a Freemason term.
794
00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:03,220
So they blindfold you.
795
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:06,140
And part of that is because you have to acknowledge
796
00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:08,660
that everything that you've known in life so far
797
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:12,260
is darkness, and now you're coming into the light,
798
00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:14,140
the truth of Freemasonry.
799
00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:14,980
Well, wait a second.
800
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:16,620
How can I profess that as a Christian?
801
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:18,380
I've got the light of Jesus Christ.
802
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:21,340
How can I walk away from that and say that that's darkness?
803
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,660
You would think the Holy Spirit would cause you to run
804
00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:26,140
at that point, or you're just getting started.
805
00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:29,740
Then you gotta take a shirt off.
806
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:31,220
Okay, that's weird.
807
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:35,980
And then you gotta bow before an altar, okay?
808
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:39,140
Before a guy called the Worshipful Master.
809
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:40,020
Excuse me?
810
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:43,100
I don't bow before anybody than the one and only master,
811
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,740
the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ.
812
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:48,260
So what are you doing bowing before a man?
813
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:50,500
Then here comes your bloody oath.
814
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,900
And you are bowing before this Worshipful Master
815
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:53,940
before an altar.
816
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,620
They have a typically a sword at your chest,
817
00:30:57,620 --> 00:31:01,340
and you vow that you will never reveal the secrets
818
00:31:01,340 --> 00:31:03,660
of Freemasonry and what you are about to be taught
819
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:06,940
and initiated into under the penalty of,
820
00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:08,700
and you have to walk it through with them,
821
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,660
with your thumb, throat to throat,
822
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:13,740
that you can cut my throat from ear to ear,
823
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:16,580
cut out my tongue and disembowel me.
824
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:19,860
And you're supposed to be a Christian?
825
00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:21,260
John, that's just a first degree.
826
00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:23,260
Oh yeah, we haven't made it to 33 or none of that stuff
827
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:24,740
that you learn along the way.
828
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:26,580
In the seventh degree, you learned that they worship
829
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:28,900
a plural God called Jabulon, right?
830
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:33,620
Which includes Baal and Egyptian God Osiris.
831
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:35,460
Oh, when you get to the 17th degree,
832
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:37,980
then they say, we've got the secret password
833
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:39,140
to get you into eternity.
834
00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:41,020
I'm not making this up, you know what it is?
835
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:42,220
I'll tell you the secret.
836
00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:45,780
The secret password is Abaddon.
837
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:48,740
Wait a second, Abaddon?
838
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:52,060
That's the name that you see of the destroyer
839
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:55,140
that came out of the Abusas, the pit of hell
840
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:58,420
that's unleashed on the planet in the seven year tribulation.
841
00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:03,540
So that's the name that's gonna get me
842
00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:04,660
to the grand lodge above.
843
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:06,580
I gotta say Abaddon?
844
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:08,500
No, and you know what the sad thing is?
845
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,940
John, for every person who thinks that when they die
846
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:15,540
and then they're gonna say the word Abaddon,
847
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:16,900
you know what's gonna happen?
848
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,460
You're not going to heaven.
849
00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:22,180
You will see the destroyer.
850
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:25,500
You know, it's just, and John on and on it goes.
851
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,460
And this is not a conspiracy.
852
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:28,900
And here's what's scary.
853
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:31,380
I expect that from the world.
854
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:34,460
I don't condone it, but that's what the enemy's been doing
855
00:32:34,460 --> 00:32:37,140
ever since the birth of Christianity, Acts chapter two.
856
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:40,140
Jesus Christ is the only way out of this mess.
857
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:41,500
And so what has he been doing?
858
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,740
Ever since then, he's inventing as many different
859
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:46,380
false paths as he can, different religions, new religions,
860
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:48,580
latest religion, this religion, right?
861
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:51,300
And just to cloud the issue to hopefully get people off
862
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:53,060
the one and only way out of this mess.
863
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:54,620
Freemasonry is just another one.
864
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:57,580
But I expect that from the world.
865
00:32:57,580 --> 00:32:58,420
They don't know better.
866
00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:59,980
They don't know Christ.
867
00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:01,100
They don't have the Bible.
868
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:02,620
They're not born again.
869
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,620
The Bible says that the mind of the unspiritual man
870
00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:06,380
cannot understand the spiritual things.
871
00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:08,020
I get that.
872
00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:11,900
John, what's alarming to me is this is in the church.
873
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:15,100
And I share in this study over and over again,
874
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,700
Freemasonry is allowed to do the rituals
875
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,540
that are completely unbiblical in church services,
876
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:22,860
to do their funerals and services.
877
00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:26,020
Much of the church board are Freemasons,
878
00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:28,740
including pastors and things of that nature.
879
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,940
And I'm going, and John, we're just scraping the surface
880
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:34,340
of what goes on in this occult secret society.
881
00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:38,260
How can you be a Christian and allow this to happen?
882
00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:40,660
And so my thing is this, if you got these guys
883
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:43,940
in charge of your church, you need to rise up as a church.
884
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:46,500
And I'll just be blunt, you need to fire them.
885
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,260
They need to, and I tell people this all the time.
886
00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:50,900
If you're professing to be a Christian,
887
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,020
you better repent, run, and get right with God.
888
00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:57,780
And if you refuse to leave, you're in a heap of trouble.
889
00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,220
Yeah, Pastor Billy, I gotta ask you,
890
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:04,020
if people are sworn to secrecy under basically vow
891
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:07,260
of cutting off their throat, cutting off their tongue,
892
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:08,740
and disemboweling them,
893
00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:10,540
how are you getting this information?
894
00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:13,540
Well, part of it is the Freemasons
895
00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:15,340
who've been brave enough to come out.
896
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:18,180
They get saved, and then they come out
897
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:20,620
and expose it, and that's why we know.
898
00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:24,740
In fact, what's interesting was due to modern technology,
899
00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:25,580
because a lot of people say,
900
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:27,420
oh, that's not what they do when they're,
901
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:30,580
the lodge that I went to, it's Christian
902
00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:32,580
because they had a Bible on that altar.
903
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:35,220
First of all, just because they have a Bible
904
00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:36,140
doesn't mean they follow it.
905
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:38,860
Second of all, oftentimes their Bible,
906
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:41,740
for instance, the Oxford Freemason Bible,
907
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:44,900
at the back end has all this Egyptian symbolism and stuff
908
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,420
because that's what they merged in with their belief system.
909
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:48,980
That's not our Bible.
910
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:51,060
And then third, they're pluralistic.
911
00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:52,220
You can go in there one week
912
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:53,740
and it might be the Christian Bible,
913
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:56,820
but then other week it might be the Hindu Vedas,
914
00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,500
or it might be the Quran,
915
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,260
because again, they believe that whatever path you choose,
916
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:04,340
you just gotta believe in a supreme being, right?
917
00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,580
It doesn't have to be the one of the Bible.
918
00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:09,460
So just because they have that, that doesn't mean anything.
919
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:12,700
But the problem is, is they go into there
920
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:17,700
and they think that, it's just not really that big.
921
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:19,380
You're exaggerating this.
922
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,180
This is just, you got this on wackyguy.org
923
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:23,820
or conspiracyguy.com.
924
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:26,020
No, modern technology.
925
00:35:26,020 --> 00:35:29,140
We were able to get actual footage
926
00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:32,220
with a guy who snuck in there with his phone
927
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:33,980
and recorded the rituals, John.
928
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:35,420
We got it on tape, man.
929
00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:36,700
This is not a joke.
930
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:37,540
It's not a game.
931
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:39,300
This is really what's going on.
932
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:43,340
And so it's basically Freemasons who've come out,
933
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:47,860
most of them got saved, praise God,
934
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:49,180
but they're revealing to people
935
00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:52,060
what is really going on behind closed doors.
936
00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:55,220
And the reason why they get away with it is twofold.
937
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:57,780
Number one, hello, it's a secret society.
938
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:58,820
By definition, secret.
939
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:00,620
So they're not touting it from the horns.
940
00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:03,900
So we only can rely upon those that can sneak in
941
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,020
and get it back to us, or those that were a part of it
942
00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:09,100
and got saved and come out and spill the beans.
943
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,100
Yeah.
944
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:14,060
So there's a lot of questions I have on that.
945
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:17,140
And I know we can spend a lot of time debating this,
946
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:19,940
but what influence do they have in society,
947
00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:20,780
or not debating it.
948
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:22,180
I don't wanna debate anything like that.
949
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,420
I just wanna learn more about it.
950
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:26,860
But what influence does this have in society as a whole?
951
00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:31,860
I know Washington, DC is filled with the symbology of that.
952
00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:35,460
And what do we as Christians do about this?
953
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:36,740
Well, great question.
954
00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:39,300
That's how we actually ended our study on the last three
955
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,140
studies, we dealt with, all right, where are these guys at?
956
00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:44,780
And how are they getting away with this?
957
00:36:44,780 --> 00:36:47,860
And so I just broke it down into many different categories.
958
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:51,980
You got Freemasonry throughout Hollywood, right?
959
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:54,100
Probably one of the best advertisements that they've had
960
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,500
to recruit people in a long time was the
961
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:59,740
National Treasure series, huge.
962
00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:01,100
Disney just did a reboot with that
963
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,820
with a modern millennial version, right?
964
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:05,140
But it just encourages people to,
965
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:07,460
oh, this is a cool eclectic society.
966
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:10,900
And no, and so Hollywood's in it, music industry is in it.
967
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:11,980
We expose that.
968
00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:14,100
And especially because we had two studies just on
969
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,460
the symbolism in Freemasonry explaining
970
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:17,540
what those symbols mean.
971
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:20,580
And then when you see what symbols are in Freemasonry,
972
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:23,380
you see them everywhere, Hollywood, the music industry,
973
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:24,220
the whole nine yards.
974
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:26,420
They tell you who they're working for.
975
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:31,420
But I got into the politics, past presidents of our country,
976
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:36,420
indisputable, full on Freemasonry.
977
00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:40,300
And again, the danger with this is you're talking about
978
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:42,980
people that were also on our Supreme courts,
979
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:47,140
judges and things of that nature.
980
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,780
And Jong, you got to keep in mind that again,
981
00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:52,740
when a person becomes a Freemason,
982
00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:57,060
they pledge their allegiance, number one,
983
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:59,140
solely to Freemasonry.
984
00:37:59,140 --> 00:38:02,140
And that means it comes first.
985
00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:05,140
And you pledge yourself to quote,
986
00:38:05,140 --> 00:38:09,140
protecting the brotherhood, other Freemasons.
987
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:12,500
And this goes back to their secret hand signals,
988
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:17,500
hand signs, hand in the vest, stand square,
989
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,540
the particular stances and things,
990
00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:22,100
secret handshakes on the knuckle and all that stuff.
991
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,500
It's not a conspiracy theory.
992
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,300
This is how they identify themselves out in public,
993
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:28,940
in secret, because it's not a conspiracy theory.
994
00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:30,900
Cause this is secret society.
995
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,100
So I'll give you a case in point.
996
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:33,860
We demonstrated this still goes on.
997
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:36,860
Have you ever wondered, you got some people
998
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:39,900
that do these dirty deeds, these horrible crimes,
999
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:41,180
and you're going, that guy's going,
1000
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,900
he's going up river for a long time.
1001
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:45,700
Next thing you know, he gets off the hook.
1002
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:46,740
What's going on there?
1003
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,380
John, this is how the system works.
1004
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:53,540
Freemasonry, their beliefs is supersedes everything,
1005
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:57,180
including the constitution, the Bill of Rights,
1006
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:58,820
and the law of the land.
1007
00:38:58,820 --> 00:39:00,540
So give you a case in point.
1008
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:02,840
If you had a Freemason judge,
1009
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,780
and then you are a Freemason who's been brought to court,
1010
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:08,480
you don't have to say a word.
1011
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,420
You give them the sign, you give them the distress signal,
1012
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:13,740
the way that you stand, right?
1013
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,820
And then he is bound by the bloody oaths of Freemasonry.
1014
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:21,100
He has to do everything in his power
1015
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:22,300
to let that brother go.
1016
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:25,500
This is the danger of this stuff.
1017
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:29,100
So our laws and our country think they're being perverted
1018
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,120
with these guys.
1019
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Plus their agenda is not God's agenda.
1020
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,380
Their agenda is not what our founding fathers had
1021
00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:37,300
with the biblical Judeo-Christian ethic
1022
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:38,420
and things of that nature.
1023
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:40,920
So there's a conflict that's going on.
1024
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:45,060
But again, we expose how they've warmed their way in
1025
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:47,940
even into the military and things of that nature.
1026
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:51,980
I already mentioned women's groups, youth groups, whatever,
1027
00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:53,300
but they're all over.
1028
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:56,380
And so the biggest thing is,
1029
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how can you see that?
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Well, what do we do?
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Well, we get the truth out, right?
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As Paul says, referring to the gospel,
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how beautiful are the feet of those
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that bring the good news, right?
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How can they know unless somebody tells them?
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Well, how can people know what they're up against, right?
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In order to fight this battle,
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if you don't even know you're in the battle first place,
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and second of all, okay, who am I battling against?
1040
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Okay, and then third, where are they at?
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And so it's the truth, John, we get the truth out.
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We expose the dirty deeds of darkness, right?
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And so that people could wake up and go like,
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oh, I had no clue that that's what Freemasonry is, teaches,
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how antithetical it is to everything as a Christian.
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00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:38,500
Whoa, I didn't know that it was not just on the outside.
1047
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Whoa, now I can see it's on the inside of the church
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so you can clean the church up, number one.
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Number two, then it's on the outside.
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Oh, then we need to clean up what's going on in our country.
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And that's how you do it.
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00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,340
John, there's more of us than there is them,
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but they get away with it because people,
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again, back to the beginning,
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they don't wanna study the whole of the Bible.
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Now you say that as a Christian
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because you're supposed to say that,
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that sounds spiritual, right?
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You don't say, hey, I'm only gonna study
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what I wanna hear, right?
1061
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Which actually is a Bible prophecy sign real quick.
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Paul told Timothy, he says, how do you know your last days?
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Hey, don't just look at Matthew 24, Jesus said,
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you're gonna see false Christ, false prophets,
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false teachers, wars, rumors of wars,
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00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:23,540
famines, pestilence, increase of all that stuff,
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earthquakes, and we're seeing that.
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Paul says, watch this,
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when you see this in the church in the last days,
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he said the church is going to gather around themselves
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a plethora, in the Greek it's a pile,
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00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:39,980
a pile of teachers who will tickle their ears
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and they'll turn away from the truth
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and they'll turn aside to myths.
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And I'm going like tickle your ears, what's that?
1076
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So I looked it up in the Greek way back and it's kinetho
1077
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and it means to desire only that which is pleasant.
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And Muthos is where we get the word myth
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or like stories made up.
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So basically Paul says, yeah, look in the world
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when you see wars, rumors of world, Jesus saying this,
1082
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famines, pestilence, increase,
1083
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that's a sign you're in the last days.
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But Paul says, now, don't just look at the world,
1085
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look at the church.
1086
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And when you see in the church,
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basically all you get is pleasant things
1088
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:12,340
and stories made up, you're in the last days.
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So this is what's going on.
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The people don't, they're being duped.
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00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:18,380
They're not being taught the whole council of God
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so they don't even know what to look for.
1093
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:20,700
What do you do?
1094
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:23,020
You preach the truth, right?
1095
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:26,500
It's the same, this is the light, John, right?
1096
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And you wanna get rid of the darkness?
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You bring on the light.
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00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:33,540
You teach the truth, which is the light of Christ.
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And then each individual Christian goes
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and shares the light of that truth.
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That's how you dispel darkness.
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00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:40,980
You go into a dark room.
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00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,220
It's a dark room.
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00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:44,340
Well, oh no, I'm just gonna sit there and go like,
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I can't get rid of this.
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00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:46,260
I'm clueless.
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00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:48,340
I have no idea what to, what do I do?
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00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:49,420
Go turn the light on.
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00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:50,980
And you don't just turn the light on.
1110
00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:52,380
As soon as you turn the light on,
1111
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:53,500
what happens to the darkness?
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It goes away.
1113
00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:55,420
It goes away.
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That's what we need to get back to as Christians,
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to preach the whole council of God,
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00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,380
get Christians equipped on the light of Jesus Christ,
1117
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:04,700
get out there and be the salt and the light, okay?
1118
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:09,700
And then we would see all this darkness flee that fast.
1119
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:12,220
I'm not trying to oversimplify,
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but John, that's the answer right there.
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00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:19,020
You expose it with the light of the truth of God's word
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00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:21,420
and instantly the darkness flees.
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00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,260
Wow.
1124
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Pastor Billy, would you pray for the people
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that have been watching this and they're like,
1126
00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:29,140
I need to do something based on what Pastor Billy has said
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00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:32,980
and just help them, just pray for them to have discernment
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that's to turn that light on.
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Yeah.
1130
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:37,500
Father, we just thank you so much for our time today
1131
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and we thank you most importantly for Jesus.
1132
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:40,820
Thank you for saving us through him,
1133
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:42,580
giving us the gift of eternal life through him.
1134
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:45,180
And God, if there's anybody that's tuning in,
1135
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:46,620
that's not truly born again,
1136
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:47,980
maybe they're going to a church service,
1137
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:49,460
but that doesn't save you.
1138
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,660
Or maybe they were like me,
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00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:53,620
would never step foot in a church service,
1140
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:56,220
but they're interested and they wanna know the truth.
1141
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:57,860
And maybe you're tugging at their heart.
1142
00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:00,020
God, would you cause them to be obedient and be blessed,
1143
00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:01,900
even right where they're at, God, right now,
1144
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:03,940
that they would cry out to you, Jesus,
1145
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:05,780
and ask you to forgive them their sins.
1146
00:44:05,780 --> 00:44:08,660
You tell us that you are holy, that we are not,
1147
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:10,500
but the good news is through Jesus Christ,
1148
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,780
we can be saved and forgiven completely of all of our sins
1149
00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:15,620
and made into a new creation in you.
1150
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,500
God, would you please draw them to you?
1151
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:19,780
May that take place even now.
1152
00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:21,380
And God, for we, your church,
1153
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:23,220
those of us that are born again,
1154
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:26,100
maybe we've been one of those lackadaisical Christians.
1155
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,500
Maybe we were the ones that only wanted our ears tickled,
1156
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,540
but we're starting to be convicted to realize,
1157
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:33,540
no, we need to know all the truth.
1158
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:36,120
And the problem isn't with the darkness encroaching,
1159
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,500
the problem is with us not declaring your light.
1160
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,480
So God, raise us up in these last days
1161
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,400
as a mighty equipped army in the light of your truth,
1162
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,540
that we would work together as your people
1163
00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:52,340
and dispel back the darkness until you come home and get us.
1164
00:44:52,340 --> 00:44:55,620
That's how we need to finish, finish strong, not fearful,
1165
00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:58,280
finish faithful as the bride of Christ
1166
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,020
until that glorious day, which could happen very soon,
1167
00:45:02,020 --> 00:45:04,480
when we get to go be with you forever.
1168
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,040
But God, please do a great work.
1169
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,660
It's not by chance that people are watching and listening.
1170
00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:10,780
And so God, please bear much fruit,
1171
00:45:10,780 --> 00:45:11,900
which we know as your will.
1172
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:15,820
We ask all this in your powerful name, in Jesus' name, amen.
1173
00:45:15,820 --> 00:45:16,660
Amen.
1174
00:45:17,460 --> 00:45:20,300
Pastor Billy Crone, I know that we're gonna have to do
1175
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:23,880
more discussions with you about spiritual warfare,
1176
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,620
about the demonic in society.
1177
00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:29,900
And I see a book behind you about aliens even.
1178
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:33,220
So there's more that we can talk about,
1179
00:45:33,220 --> 00:45:36,460
but I just appreciate you taking this time today
1180
00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:38,100
to do what we've done so far.
1181
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,820
So thank you so much for being here on Charisma.
1182
00:45:40,820 --> 00:46:04,180
Yeah, hey, anytime, John, thank you for having me.