Shocking Encounters with Serpent Spirits, Witches and Werewolves | Katie Souza

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Him and his wife, who was a witch,

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tried to recruit me into the coven.

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When she took me down to the basement,

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all that was down there was a shelf

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that had a piece of velvet on it

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and a noose hanging from a beam.

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You could be down here and scream your head off

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and nobody'd ever hear you.

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Katie, Susie, it's great to have you here on Charisma.

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And we are excited to partner with you for this book,

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The Serpent and the Soul.

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I mean, wow.

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We're talking about serpent spirits

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and there's a lot of times that people

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just don't understand what we're talking about

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whenever we're talking about serpent spirits

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and the need for deliverance.

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It sounds a little bit weird.

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Let's just put it that way.

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It sounds a little bit weird, a little bit crazy,

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but we need to put verbiage to things

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and explain things in certain ways

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so that people understand that.

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So I am super excited about this conversation, Katie.

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So it's great to have you here on Charisma.

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Thanks, thanks, John.

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Thanks so much.

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Yeah, I'm glad you are braving the waters, so to speak,

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because it's true.

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These things are real and the church is ill-equipped

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to come against this level of warfare in this hour,

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which is absolutely swarming every believer.

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So it's necessary that we understand these things.

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Jesus talked about it.

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In Luke 10, He said that we've been given authority

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to trample on serpents and scorpions

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and over all the power of the enemy

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and nothing shall in any way harm us.

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Now, when He's speaking that,

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He's not talking about just snakes in the natural

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because in context, right before that,

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the disciples came back from a missionary trip saying,

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even the demons submitted to us in your name.

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And Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning

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from the sky.

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I've given you authority to trample on serpents

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and scorpions.

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Now, so in context, He's talking about demonic spirits.

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Now, if you think about it, if He's telling these guys,

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hey, I've given you authority to trample on these snakes

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right after they said,

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even the demons submitted to us in your name.

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That means that many of the demonic entities

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that the disciples took on during their missionary journey

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were demons that came in the form of serpents and scorpions.

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So these are real.

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They're very hard to see

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and that's why many Christians miss them,

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but we need to know about them

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because Jesus told us in the Great Commission in Mark 16

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that we're gonna preach the gospel, baptize the nations.

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We're gonna heal the sick, drive out demons,

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raise the dead and take up serpents.

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That's called the Great Commission for a reason

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because it's great in its scope.

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It is for every single believer,

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not just for a snake hunter like myself.

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And that word take up there is the Greek word, iro.

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It means to remove anything that's attached to anything.

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So once people begin to understand

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the activity of these demonic serpents,

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they'll see that they are attached to anything.

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They are attached to people's bank accounts, their money,

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their family, their marriage, they're breaking up marriages.

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They're causing your body to be sick.

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They're causing your business to split apart.

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They're causing strife and division in the church.

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I have scriptures for all of these things.

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I'm not just saying a list right now.

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I have backup scriptures that we don't have time to,

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you know, expound on right now

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for every claim that I'm making.

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And many people do not see these serpents

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because Genesis three says that they're the most craftiest

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beast of the field.

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Them snakes are sneaky.

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They have, they are masters of camouflage technology,

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which means that even in the natural, when you see a snake

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and it's very hard to see them,

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their scales blend in with their surroundings.

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You know, desert snakes like rattlers,

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you won't even see them.

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You'll hear them because their scales match the rocks

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and the sand and every part of the desert scheme.

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You go into the jungle and 800 pound anaconda

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can slither silently through the trees

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because it's so stealth.

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It has so much camouflage technology.

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Its scales blend into the jungle foliage.

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You won't know it's even there

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until it's already dropped around its prey

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and squeezed it to death and is squeezing it to death.

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See, these snakes are very, very camouflage able.

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And so then they hide themselves on people's bodies

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in their lives without us being able to see them.

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That's what we have to say in the fiery presence of God.

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When Paul, you know, accidentally picked up a serpent

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on the island of Malta while picking up a bundle of sticks

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because it was cold night, they were shipwrecked,

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he was building a fire.

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He didn't know he had a deadly viper inside that bundle

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because the serpent looked just like one of the sticks.

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But when he threw it on the fire,

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the heat of the fire drove it out of hiding.

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When we get into the fiery presence of God

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through fasting, through tongues, through prayer,

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through fiery worship, we will start to actually be able

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to see these demonic serpents.

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Yeah, so we need to have eyes that see these things

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because it's easy to go through life

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and just not be paying attention.

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But these forces of darkness that are out there are real.

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They're not just imaginary.

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It's not just a Disney evil cloud that comes over.

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There is so much real to this that it's actually more real

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than our physical reality.

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So we as believers need to be able to stand against that.

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And I love how you talk about fire and how important it is

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because the fire is what really kind of separates us

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from that.

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So explain about fire and the hedge of protection.

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Okay, well, fire, okay, so think about it.

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Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household.

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We all know that.

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In Exodus four, in the Amplified Classic,

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it says that when Moses was up on the mountain

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with God and the fiery bush was up there,

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that the rod became a serpent.

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And in the Amplified Classic, it says that that,

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when it became a serpent, it was a symbol

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of the serpent that was on the crown of Pharaoh

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that symbolized the power of Pharaoh.

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That's actually in the Bible.

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Okay, so what does all this mean?

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Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household.

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As a young prince of Egypt, he was required

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to have the education of Egypt.

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The Egyptians understood something very important.

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The more educated there's civilians,

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that they're people of the nation,

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the stronger the nation would be.

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So part of the education system that was very important

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to the Egyptians was for all Egyptians

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to learn about the pantheon of gods that Egypt worshiped.

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Now, as a prince of Egypt, he was in Pharaoh's household,

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he had to learn about the power god that was over the palace.

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The wadjet, the serpent was on the crown of Pharaoh.

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So that was the reigning god in Pharaoh's household.

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So Moses is taught, as he was growing up,

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to worship the snake.

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To bring offerings to the serpent.

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To learn how to serve the serpent.

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So then when he leaves that household,

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when you are exposed to that level of occultic activity,

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that stays with you until it gets exposed and healed.

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Now, look, people say, well, how do you,

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well, it says in the Bible that that serpent

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in Exodus four, go read in the Amplified Classic,

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is the reigning power in Pharaoh's household.

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And look at Pharaoh's magicians.

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Their rods turned into snakes.

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Because that was the reigning god of the household.

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So their magic was surrounded by serpents.

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So here is Moses, he's in the desert,

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and he sees a bush that's on fire, but does not burn.

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And he says, I'm gonna go see this thing.

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I'm gonna go see this thing.

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I'm gonna turn aside and look at it.

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He goes up, and while he's standing in front

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of the fiery bush that does not burn,

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God begins to commission Moses to go,

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you're gonna go into Egypt, you're gonna free my people

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from the rule of Pharaoh, the snake king,

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and you're gonna go to a land that I promised you

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and take possession of it.

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So as he's doing this, and I'll even go to the chapter,

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because it's so powerful.

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Moses says in verse one of Exodus four,

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oh, look, when I go to my people,

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they will not believe me or listen to me.

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They'll not believe that I met with you.

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That you've appeared to me.

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And the second verse, the Lord doesn't even address

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his question, he says to him, what is that in your hand?

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And Moses answers the rod.

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Do we actually believe that God doesn't know

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what's in Moses' hand?

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The rod.

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You know, no.

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What, the reason why God is asking that is because

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he wants to know if Moses knows what he's been carrying

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around for his entire life since Egypt.

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A snake who is a master of camouflage

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has been disguising itself as a rod.

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That's why he asked himself,

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that's why God asked Moses, what's in your hand?

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He says, a rod.

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No, it's not really a rod.

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Then on the next verse, verse three,

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he says, now cast it on the ground.

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So when Moses cast that rod on the ground

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in front of the fiery bush, it says it became

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what it really was, a serpent, the symbol of royal

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and divine power worn on the crown of Pharaohs.

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And Moses fled from it.

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See, in the fiery presence of God,

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the fire will drive the snake out of hiding.

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See, Paul, let's go back to Paul for a second.

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He's carrying around a bundle of sticks.

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He doesn't know he's got that serpent in.

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He throws it on the fire.

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The fire drives it out of hiding.

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It bites him, but he shakes it off.

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He's left unharmed.

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That's how powerful the fire of God is.

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Now, here's the interesting part.

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When you look up that story,

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it says that he's carrying a bundle of sticks.

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The word bundle there means a multitude of men.

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Go look it up.

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It means a multitude of men,

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meaning the multitude of men are carrying around serpents

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and they don't know it.

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And here's Moses.

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He's been carrying around a serpent,

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disguised, camouflaged technology,

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as a staff his whole life.

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And here's God trying to commission him,

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commissioning him, not trying, commissioning him

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to go and free the Israelites from captivity in Egypt.

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And what happens?

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You've got to get desnake-ified.

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You've got to get rid of these serpents

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you're carrying around before you can carry out

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the commissioning of God.

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Moses would not be able to free the Israelites

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from captivity in Egypt against the snake king.

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He would not be able to win the war against the snake king

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if he had a serpent on himself.

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Because Jesus said in John 14, 30,

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the prince's world is coming, but he's nothing in me.

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That's in common with him, so he has no power over me.

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So Moses couldn't have anything in him

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that was in common with the pharaoh, the snake king.

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That way pharaoh wouldn't have any power over Moses.

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God had to meet Moses on that mountain with a fiery bush.

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He doesn't just pick signs out of a hat,

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like today I'll do a rainbow,

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tomorrow I'll do snow and hail,

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tomorrow I'll do the Red Sea party.

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No, he picked specific signs and wonders

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at specific times for specific reasons.

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He picked the fiery bush that did not burn up

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on the mountain to meet Moses there

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so that the fiery bush would drive that snake

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out of hiding that Moses had been carrying around

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his whole life so that Moses could then pick up the rod.

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Because afterwards, God said,

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now pick it up by the tail.

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That's nuts, you don't pick up a snake by the tail,

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it'll swing around and bite you.

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But God wanted to show him,

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you didn't have dominion over it before,

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that's why you fled from it, that's what the Bible said,

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fled from it when it turned into a snake,

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when it turned into what it really was.

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But now that you're getting healed and delivered

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in the presence of my fire, pick it up by the tail.

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What did it do?

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It turned back into the rod.

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But this time, it was the real rod of power.

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The real rod of power that would call down plagues upon Egypt

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and the snake king, that would part the Red Sea,

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that would strike the rock and water would come out

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in the middle of the desert.

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He then carried the real rod of power.

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We've got to get rid of these snakes that we're carrying

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so that we're carrying the real rod of power of God

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so that we can truly deliver people from the world.

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Yeah, so getting rid of these snakes that we're carrying,

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Katie, I got to ask, how did God get rid of the snakes

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in your life?

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Can you tell us a little bit about that?

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Revelation, Revelation, God just said,

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you know, he started, he always does the same thing with me.

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I get in the presence for elongated periods of time,

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and then he starts giving me scripture,

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and then he'll give me one scripture

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and he'll link it to a next scripture,

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then he'll link it to the next scripture,

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then he'll link it to the next scripture

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until he builds this very solid harmonious doctrine

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throughout the text to show me

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this is not just this little word here,

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this is actually a revelatory insight,

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a teaching that can get people freed.

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So that process, whenever it happens like that for me,

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that's how all my teachings have been birthed,

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is that it comes to me and I walk it out myself

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and I get free myself.

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And then I can go and then administrate that freedom

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with the truth of the word to other people.

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Yeah, so it's just like some personal stories

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of how God has brought you through some of those things

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that you now see that there was a snake,

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or that was a python spirit or something like that.

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Could you just kind of get a little personal?

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I know you've got a great testimony,

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so I wanna pull a little bit of that out of here

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before we go into more teaching.

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Yeah, like I can remember waking up

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shortly after I first started getting this Revelation

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and I had a indentation in my breast

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about the depth of the tip of my pinky finger,

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which is pretty deep, it's like that deep.

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And so I was like, what is this God?

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And he said, I want you to soak in fire and I'll show you.

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I was on tour at the time, I spent the night up,

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singing a fire song and then falling asleep

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and then getting up and singing the fire song,

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falling asleep and just pressing with fire all night long.

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Finally, I had a vision.

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I had a vision of a serpent up on its tail

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with this triangular jaw, which means that they're venomous,

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striking at me.

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And I said, what is that Lord?

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And he goes, that's the snake

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that's trying to give you breast cancer.

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So I did what Jesus said to do, take up serpents.

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I prophetically did an act where I pulled that snake off

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of that area of my body and cast it into the abyss,

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the fiery abyss, and then the Lord says,

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now take communion for the next three days a lot

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and command the venom to come out of your body.

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So I did.

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And I command the venom to come out

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and I was taking the communion.

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And I taking the communion because see,

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people don't understand when you're taking communion.

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Okay, the very first prophecy about Christ

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is the seed of the woman will crush the head

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of the seed of the serpent.

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Seed of the woman, Jesus Christ,

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will curse the head of the seed of the serpent.

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That's in Genesis three, where the serpent

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is now shipwrecked all of mankind.

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And when we take communion, we're doing it in remembrance

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of Christ's work on the cross.

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That's where the crushing took place.

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So I was taking the communion,

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I was commanding the venom to come out.

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And for three days I was balled up in my bed

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in agonizing pain, because that part,

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that area of my body was just in agonizing pain.

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And I thought for a second, I just made it mad.

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I didn't get rid of it, I just made it mad.

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But that's not what it was.

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On the third day when I got up,

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I went to the bathroom to take a shower

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and that indentation had fully grown in, it had filled in.

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The pain I was feeling was the regeneration

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of the breast tissue being healed

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and regenerated from that cancer,

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the venom that the enemy was pumping into my breast.

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So that's just one example.

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And I see many people like, I just came back from a meeting

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and there was a girl there, she had a full spinal fusion.

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Every disc fused to the other disc by metal.

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And metal rods in her back.

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She could only turn this much.

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And if she turned any more, she was in excretionary pain

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and the doctor said, if you try to force it and turn more,

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you're gonna snap the bars

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and you're gonna have to have surgery to fix it.

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And so they brought her over to me,

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I prayed for her and she had snakes up and down her spine.

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And I just pulled them all off, take up serpents.

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That's what Jesus said.

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And very quickly, she was turning all the way around to her.

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I can't even turn as far as her.

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We call her Elastigirl now.

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She was turning all the way around, both ways,

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leaning all the way back, totally healed.

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This is, I see that happen all the time.

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I have people check people's spines before I pray for them.

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And they check, okay, it's crooked.

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It goes like this and then it indents like this.

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And then I pray for them.

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I pull the snake up their back

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and the spine literally snaps into place straight,

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straight as an arrow, bam.

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There's the spine perfectly aligned

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with the right curve in it where it's supposed to be,

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straight on the front view, everything.

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This is real.

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And I have seen massive, massive, massive miracles

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of every kind from this revelation.

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Amen, amen.

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You mentioned about fire songs.

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Could you tell us what that actually is?

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Because I'm really interested.

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I've been a worship leader for many years myself.

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I know there's songs that talk about fire,

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but help us understand what that means

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and what that type of, I guess, intercessory worship

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might look like.

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Well, just take, fire down to my soul, all consuming fire.

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There's songs that talk about fire

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that you can sing along with

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and just really get fiery with it.

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There are other songs that they don't even mention fire,

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but they are fiery in their content.

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They are fiery in the music progressions

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and the melody lines and everything else in the choruses

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that if you play them on repeat

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and you just sing, sing, sing,

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and really worship and get fiery,

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that brings the burning.

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That brings the Holy Spirit,

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also crying out for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

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When John the Baptist said,

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oh, you're brood of vipers.

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And he said, the acts that the root of the trees repent.

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Therefore, before your tree gets cut down

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and thrown into the fire.

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And then he says, one is coming who is gonna baptize you

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with the Holy Spirit and fire.

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So when we see that John the Baptist talking about Jesus

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coming to baptize us with the Holy Spirit and fire,

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it's in context with John the Baptist

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bringing you judgments against the Pharisees

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who were called, oh, you brood of vipers.

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Meaning there were men,

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human beings controlled by demonic snakes.

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Wow.

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So there's all throughout the Bible,

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the snake is a bad thing, obviously.

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But Jesus does say that we're supposed to be

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wisest serpents and gentlest doves.

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That's a little bit different than that.

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But in the Old Testament, you have Jesus,

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or I'm sorry, God told Moses to make a stick,

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make a staff and put a serpent on it

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that was made out of copper or gold or bronze

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or something like that.

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What kind of revelation do you have about that

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in regards to the serpent?

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Because that seems to be a little bit confusing.

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It actually isn't, and there's so much there.

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I don't know if I can,

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I'll try to synopsize it very shortly for you.

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The story begins in Numbers 21,

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where it says that the people,

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their souls have become much discouraged

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because of the way.

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When your soul gets wounded

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because of the trials of the journey,

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because of the stressors, because of the traumas,

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what happens is you begin to speak

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out of the pain in your soul.

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And that's what they did.

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Next thing you know, they're saying,

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oh, they spoke against God and against Moses, it said.

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Why have you brought us out of Egypt, into this desert?

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And we hate, we loathe this manna.

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Okay, they even brought up, they said,

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we loathe this light bread, our soul loathe this manna.

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And then it says, and God sent fiery serpents to bite them.

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Why would God do that?

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Well, remember we just talked about the communion.

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The communion is partaking of the moment

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Christ crushed the head of the serpent.

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And here they are, they're loathing the manna.

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Well, in 1 Corinthians, I believe it's 10,

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Paul says, when they were in the desert,

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they ate from the same, they ate the same spiritual food

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and they drank from the same spiritual rock.

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And that rock was Christ.

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Meaning he was saying that they were foreshadowing

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and the desert, they were eating communion.

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They were eating the spiritual bread, the manna,

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the living bread that came down from heaven.

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Jesus called himself that, John 6.

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They were drinking from the rock, which was Christ.

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That's why when Moses struck the rock twice,

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he couldn't go in the promised land

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because he was actually striking Christ twice.

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Christ only needed to be struck once on the cross.

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Not twice.

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Wow.

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So he was striking the son of God.

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And here's the people in the desert,

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their souls have gotten much discouraged

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because of the way they're speaking

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out of the pain in their souls.

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We all do it.

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We, you know, like, oh, I can't believe this.

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Oh, and that person and oh, and this and that.

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And everybody gets all worked up

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when their soul has been wounded by the trials of the way.

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And as part of their confessions out of their mouth,

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they went against God and against Moses.

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And they said, we hate this manna.

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Our soul hated that.

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It's like, you know what?

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That's the living bread.

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It's a foreshadowing of Christ.

518
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,200
And you just said you hate it

519
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,880
and you don't want to eat it anymore.

520
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,400
So here comes the fiery snakes to bite them.

521
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,160
Moses then takes a bronze serpent

522
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,320
and puts it up on the pole.

523
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,440
What is that?

524
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,880
Jesus said, just as Moses lifted up the serpent

525
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,760
in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up

526
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,680
so that all who look upon him will believe.

527
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,200
Okay, so what does this mean?

528
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,400
This means that the serpent on the pole,

529
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,920
you think, why would they?

530
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,360
And they're supposed to look attentively

531
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,400
and expectantly at it.

532
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,120
And if they did, they would live

533
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,280
because that serpent on the pole represented Christ.

534
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,200
How so?

535
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,720
How can a snake represent Christ?

536
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,440
Because Christ literally nailed the serpent

537
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,720
in the garden from the garden on up to the cross

538
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,600
when he died at Calvary.

539
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,160
He took all of that that the serpent did against us

540
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,920
and nailed it to his cross.

541
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120
So when they're seeing this bronze serpent on the pole,

542
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:47,040
it's representing God nailing the works,

543
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,040
the attacks, the assaults of the serpent onto the cross,

544
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,680
onto the place where Christ took all of it for us.

545
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,440
And that's why I said, if you sit there

546
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,640
and you look expectantly and attentively

547
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,080
at the serpent on the cross, you will live.

548
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,000
They're all getting bit.

549
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,240
Many of them died.

550
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,200
I can imagine even seeing the bites on people

551
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520
as they're sitting there trying their hardest,

552
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,240
just to have faith and believe, I'm not gonna die.

553
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,080
I just got bit.

554
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,900
I'm not gonna die.

555
00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:14,740
I just got bit.

556
00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:15,680
And they're looking at the serpent on the pole,

557
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,160
which is Christ on the cross.

558
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,600
And they're living and the venom is,

559
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,960
instead of going into their body,

560
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,800
is actually being poured out of their body.

561
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,040
I believe that's true.

562
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600
That's just my opinion for me seeing cancer

563
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,160
pour out of people's bodies.

564
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,360
And it looks like running yellow venom liquid of a serpent

565
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,440
where I've seen all kinds of things like that

566
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,960
come out of people's bodies when the serpent is judged.

567
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,120
And I love how they loved the manna.

568
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,240
They didn't wanna eat it.

569
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,020
So God says, if you don't wanna eat my son's living bread,

570
00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:48,360
his body, shit for you on the cross,

571
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,160
guess what, you're gonna look at it.

572
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,120
Wow.

573
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,600
That is a powerful revelation.

574
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,640
And we can go much deeper into that

575
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,840
at some other point too.

576
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,040
But I know that you go into so much in your book,

577
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800
but you've had so many amazing

578
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,800
or really incredible experiences with spiritual warfare.

579
00:24:12,220 --> 00:24:14,840
And when you mess with spiritual warfare

580
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,000
and you go after the devil,

581
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080
the devil tries to come after you.

582
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,120
And I know that the devil has some assignments against you,

583
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,520
but you're not afraid of them.

584
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680
And so I'd love to hear you talk about this

585
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,120
a little bit more here.

586
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,360
Some of those things and how you are protecting yourself

587
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,240
and going after them actually.

588
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,640
The number one thing is,

589
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,600
is that you don't have any authority

590
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,160
over anything you're not healed of.

591
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,460
So we have to be healed in our mind, will and emotions,

592
00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:46,460
our soul, and in our ancestral bloodline of things,

593
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440
of altars that were set up by witches,

594
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,080
warlocks, demons, and everything else.

595
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,060
And when we do that, when we take the steps

596
00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:00,360
and understand how witches and warlocks

597
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,680
are actually reaching out their hand

598
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,520
from the power of the altars that they built

599
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,720
through blood sacrifices to seize you,

600
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600
that's 1 Kings 13, by the way.

601
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,880
Jeroboom says, from the altar, he reached out and said,

602
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,380
seize the man of God when the prophet came

603
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:17,640
to release a judgment against that altar.

604
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,200
And his hand withered up and dried up.

605
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Why?

606
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,480
Because the prophet had already decreed to the altar,

607
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,640
altar, altar, break apart and pour out ashes.

608
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,880
He'd already destroyed that King Jeroboom's power source.

609
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,560
So he could no longer stretch out his hand

610
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,360
from the power of the altar.

611
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520
So there are things, there's altars in the soul,

612
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,060
there's altars in our bloodline.

613
00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:38,720
There's things that we need to get healed of.

614
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,840
When we do that, then we will be able

615
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240
to go after the high level stuff.

616
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,960
And I know you wanna ask me a specific question.

617
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Yes, I do.

618
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,800
Go ahead. I do.

619
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,960
So I heard you talk about shapeshifters

620
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560
and werewolves coming after you,

621
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
or coming after your family, but you're going after them.

622
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080
I gotta hear more about this because this is,

623
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,160
this is not something that I was expecting to hear

624
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720
because you think, oh, that's just make-believe or fantasy.

625
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,680
But Katie, I totally believe that what you're saying is true

626
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,820
because I've seen things, I've heard things,

627
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:14,960
I've experienced things.

628
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,120
And so many times we just kind of like poo poo that,

629
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,720
or we just kind of like write it off as like,

630
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,720
oh, something weird, that's just my imagination.

631
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760
But there's more to that if our eyes are opened.

632
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Yeah, well, first, let me just bring a couple of texts in

633
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720
just so people can think that we're,

634
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,680
we haven't completely lost our mind.

635
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,560
A.W. Pink, who is a Calvinist expositor,

636
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480
teaches about the angel doctrine.

637
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,960
Rick Renner teaches about the angel doctrine in Genesis 6.

638
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600
I mean, there is some men of God,

639
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,600
men, those are just two of a list of highly respected,

640
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,880
doctrinally accurate theologians who have studied scriptures,

641
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,440
studied historical contexts, historical records,

642
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,440
other, not canonized, but books that were well-read

643
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,700
in the time of the disciples, in the time of Jesus,

644
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,000
like the book of Enoch,

645
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,240
which is mentioned in the book of Jude and things like that.

646
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,700
They have studied these things and they agree with me.

647
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,200
This is not me going off the rails

648
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520
because I have some sort of insane position.

649
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,940
You know, Genesis 6, the doctrine of the angels

650
00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:36,400
that came down had intimacy,

651
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,060
illegal intimacy with women, took them as wives.

652
00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:43,880
And because of their DNA inside of them,

653
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040
they produced mutants.

654
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,200
They produced giants out of this unholy union

655
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,240
with human women, but they didn't just fornicate

656
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,080
with the women.

657
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600
If you read Genesis 6, I'll go to the scripture,

658
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280
it says, and God looked upon the world

659
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,920
and saw how degenerate, debased, and vicious it was

660
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,360
for all humanity had corrupted their way on the earth

661
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,360
and lost their directions.

662
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,360
And he even goes on to say that I wanna find the,

663
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,160
it says, I will wipe away mankind whom I've created

664
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,200
from the face of the earth.

665
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000
This is verse seven, not only man,

666
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,360
but the beasts and the creeping things

667
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,200
and the birds of the air, for it grieves me

668
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920
and makes me regretful that I have made them.

669
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Why would God punish the beasts, the animals

670
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,760
that he had created?

671
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Because these angels, these fallen angels

672
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880
were so debased, so perverse, that they not only had

673
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,400
unholy relations with human women,

674
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,200
but also with animals, bestiality, and things like that.

675
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,760
They did experiments.

676
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,440
They were trying to create animals who had their DNA

677
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680
in them so they could be supernatural creatures.

678
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Why would they do that?

679
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Look at what's in heaven, four living creatures,

680
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,760
beasts with wings and eyes that cover their whole body

681
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,680
and beasts that have an ox head and then an eagle head

682
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,680
and a human head and a lion head, all in one creature.

683
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160
I mean, bizarre looking creatures

684
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
and what these fallen angels were doing,

685
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,320
were trying to recreate those kinds of things

686
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,040
here on earth.

687
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680
And so they experimented on animals.

688
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,160
They fornicated with animals.

689
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,400
And what happened is out of this fornication

690
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,120
and these experiments came beasts.

691
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,640
And we see that throughout history.

692
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720
You see, you know, satyrs and medusa

693
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240
with the snakes on her heads and, you know,

694
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000
half fish, half men.

695
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560
And the gods that the Egyptians worship

696
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,440
were frogs with male lower parts and frogs' heads.

697
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,320
I mean, there was these mixtures of men and beasts

698
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,000
of demonic angelic DNA and creatures.

699
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600
And then in the caves of Quorum,

700
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
the Quorum caves, I think it was back in 1942,

701
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080
don't quote me if that's the wrong year,

702
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280
two shepherd boys are near the caves of Quorum

703
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,880
where a group called the Essenes,

704
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,760
where a group of scribes had lived

705
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080
and they were throwing rocks and there's multiple,

706
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,160
many, many, many, many dozens and dozens of caves

707
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400
in the cliffs in that region.

708
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,040
And these two young men were herding sheep

709
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,960
and they were throwing rocks into the mouths of the caves.

710
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,280
And suddenly they heard pottery crash.

711
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,040
And so they went and told someone, they came back

712
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,040
and all of the scrolls, the Dead Sea scrolls were discovered.

713
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Some of our most accurate translations come

714
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680
from those discoveries of these clay jars

715
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000
with scrolls inside of them of books

716
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,000
that were handwritten by these scribes from scripture,

717
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160
the Book of Isaiah, many, many books.

718
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Well, one of the books found in there,

719
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080
though it was very degraded,

720
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,040
was a book called the Book of Monsters.

721
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040
There are monsters in the earth.

722
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,440
Where do you think vampires and werewolves and yetis

723
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
and the monsters in the deep,

724
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,920
neti and all these other things,

725
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
do you think that they're just myth?

726
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Do you actually believe they're just myth?

727
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,200
No.

728
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920
They come from real stories, yes.

729
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Yeah, because if you go through archeology

730
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,560
in all these different societies throughout the world,

731
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,960
the creatures that they talk about

732
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600
or that they have stories about, they all are similar.

733
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,360
You know, they talk about dragons.

734
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,240
They talk about, there's a Bigfoot legend all over the world.

735
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,640
You've got the yeti in the Himalayas.

736
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
You've got Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest.

737
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,040
You've got all these different things,

738
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,840
but the descriptions match of different things.

739
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,360
So there is, obviously they're describing the same thing,

740
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400
but maybe in their own different ways.

741
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,400
So it-

742
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440
How can people in completely different continents

743
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,440
that don't have phones or email or whatever,

744
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
all be describing something that's very, very similar

745
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
to every other continent and civilization

746
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,440
without them being able to communicate unless it's real?

747
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Yeah.

748
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Yeah, and so that really makes you think,

749
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440
like if these things are really out there,

750
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880
what do we need to do about them?

751
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960
And, you know, if they're out there hiding,

752
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,880
they're more spiritual than we give them credit for,

753
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,960
obviously, and they're,

754
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400
they're, you said that there's a werewolf

755
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
that's assigned to take you out.

756
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640
So I gotta hear more about that specifically.

757
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,160
I can't tell the whole story.

758
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,640
It's too lengthy.

759
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,600
But let's just put it this way.

760
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760
The first time I, and it's not,

761
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,520
I don't know if there's a werewolf right now

762
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,120
assigned to take me out.

763
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,760
I haven't seen it,

764
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840
but I have dealt with many different werewolves

765
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,280
throughout my life.

766
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720
The first one was up in the mountains,

767
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120
and I placed, I won't mention right now,

768
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
but I saw it, it chased me,

769
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200
and I was not a believer at that time.

770
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480
I was walking in sin, I was a drug addict,

771
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,680
and I thought to myself, you're totally lost it.

772
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400
You've hallucinated this thing that's happened to you.

773
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,640
You've hallucinated it.

774
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320
And then a few days later,

775
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,600
I happened to talk to a woman

776
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,240
who was living on that property,

777
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,880
who had escaped the coven.

778
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,640
The werewolf wasn't there for her, it was there for me.

779
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,240
And I had gotten in the way,

780
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
I think it wasn't there for me, it was there for her,

781
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040
because I'd been disobedient to the coven.

782
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,840
And I had gotten in the way.

783
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,040
And then what happened is I actually met the werewolf

784
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,880
and was, him and his wife, who was a witch,

785
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,800
tried to recruit me into the coven.

786
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,560
They invited me to their house,

787
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760
and I'm gonna keep this story very short.

788
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
It's almost too wild to talk about.

789
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,560
But while I was up there,

790
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,800
because remember, I'm a drug addict,

791
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,400
I'm tough chick from the street,

792
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,120
ex-collector, ex-drug dealer,

793
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120
still just on the fringes of all that,

794
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,960
and these occultic people recognized

795
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
a very good power source in me.

796
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,000
It's like, she goes this way with God, she's trouble for us.

797
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,640
But when she comes this way for us,

798
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,320
she's a power source for us.

799
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,160
Because I was operating in that level.

800
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,840
And when I met them, I went to their house with his wife,

801
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280
I had no idea who they really were.

802
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,480
And she showed me this house that they had constructed,

803
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,080
and in the basement,

804
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,640
when she took me down to the basement,

805
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,560
all that was down there was a water tank,

806
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,160
a shelf that had a piece of velvet on it,

807
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,320
and a noose hanging from a beam.

808
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,320
And when I picked up the velvet piece of fabric,

809
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,720
it was actually a long black mask with the eyes cut out.

810
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:07,920
And when I asked her, what's this?

811
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,800
They were posing as Christians.

812
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,240
She said, oh, that's for my husband during Halloween.

813
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,120
And I said, I thought you people are Christians,

814
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,560
and you don't do that.

815
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,840
And I go, and what's all,

816
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560
and upstairs there was barrels of hooch,

817
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,400
and I was like, I thought you got,

818
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,720
Christians don't drink.

819
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,080
She's like, oh, you know, we just drink a little bit.

820
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,920
It's like a little bit,

821
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,440
you got major hooch going on in here.

822
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,520
I used to make hooch in prison.

823
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
And it's like, I know what hooch is.

824
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,560
And so I went down in this basement,

825
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,600
and then I came in and there was only a beam

826
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,280
with a noose on it,

827
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,040
but the floor was so, it was not very tall.

828
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,600
The ceiling was not tall.

829
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,200
So if you were to hang somebody from the noose,

830
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,800
their feet would actually touch the ground.

831
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120
So underneath this noose was dug out.

832
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600
This is the first time I've said this on TV.

833
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,640
I hope you're happy.

834
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,240
Keep going, keep going.

835
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,320
They had dug out a hole.

836
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360
So if anybody were to hang,

837
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,120
their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

838
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,920
And then a hole was full of dry blood.

839
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Now I'm a tough chick from the street,

840
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,520
and they know that.

841
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,120
And I'm looking at her and I'm like,

842
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,960
so what's up with that?

843
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,920
She goes, oh, you know,

844
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,200
you know, when we built this,

845
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200
she goes, she completely like ignores that question.

846
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,240
She goes, when we built this,

847
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,080
we made like layers, like seven to 10 feet of rock,

848
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160
and wood, and dirt, and cement.

849
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,200
That's why you could be down here

850
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960
and scream your head off,

851
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,520
and nobody'd ever hear you.

852
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Oh my gosh.

853
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Her husband shows up and he peeks into the basement

854
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,760
and goes, what are y'all doing down there?

855
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,640
And she goes, I'm just showing Katie the cellar

856
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,720
to the coal cellar.

857
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:38,800
And I booked it.

858
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,040
We had snowmobiles up there.

859
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,880
I booked it.

860
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,720
I said, well, I gotta go.

861
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,560
See you guys later.

862
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Oh!

863
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,520
And jumped on the snowmobile and ripped down the hill.

864
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,760
And then like two weeks later,

865
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
I'm with the woman that was rescued from the coven.

866
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,520
We go down to a local hangout

867
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,960
where only the locals go to hang out

868
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,720
to go get some lunch down at the bottom of the mountain.

869
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,080
And when we walked in,

870
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,760
I found out later,

871
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,360
the whole coven was their meeting for lunch.

872
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,200
The whole coven.

873
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,800
When we walked in, they were all like,

874
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480
they sat there and stared at us for 15 minutes

875
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,320
while I ordered.

876
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,280
They stopped eating.

877
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,120
They stopped talking.

878
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,960
They just like,

879
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,200
and I got straight up at it.

880
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,040
So I'm just like,

881
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,480
staring them back.

882
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,320
Like what?

883
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,760
I hide my friend behind me.

884
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,600
I ordered it.

885
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,640
We backed out of the restaurant.

886
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800
Oh my gosh, you can't believe I'm telling this story.

887
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Okay.

888
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,320
Got in the car and out comes the husband.

889
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,920
And he gets in his car and he chases us up the hill,

890
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,080
all the way up the hill.

891
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,160
And when we jumped into where the house was,

892
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400
where we were at, the property,

893
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360
the road turns up to the right really severely.

894
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,240
He turned up.

895
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,400
I looked out and he's hanging out the window

896
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,480
and he's already morphing.

897
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,320
And that's when I knew that he was the werewolf

898
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,920
that I had seen, that I hadn't told anybody about.

899
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,480
And his wife was the witch.

900
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,080
And it ended up that they got a warrant put out for them

901
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,320
because they had a cougar as a pet

902
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,240
and the cops came up there.

903
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,680
But before the cops could come up,

904
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,320
they burned that A-frame to the ground.

905
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,720
And outside that A-frame was a,

906
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,760
I can't believe I'm telling this story.

907
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,760
Are we in trouble yet?

908
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,320
It's too late now.

909
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Was a Tibetan monk dome.

910
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,840
There's only six of them in the world.

911
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,240
And they have Tibetan monk bones inside of them.

912
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,200
This is out in the middle of nowhere.

913
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Like, what is a Tibetan monk bone,

914
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,080
a Tibetan monk dome doing here

915
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,160
with Tibetan monk bones in it.

916
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,080
It's a power source.

917
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,200
When you lay out the map and you draw lines,

918
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,720
it forms a pentagram.

919
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,720
And that was their power source.

920
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,200
That was their altar.

921
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,680
They burned that house to the ground.

922
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,360
And when the authorities came, they had fled.

923
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,000
And the house they had built,

924
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600
cause they had built that house with the cellar

925
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,000
that you could scream your hand off

926
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,360
and nobody'd ever hear you.

927
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Wow. So God protected you from that

928
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,640
even before you were really walking with him.

929
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,280
That's my first encounter with a werewolf.

930
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,440
So, you know, everybody can talk smack,

931
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,280
but they haven't dealt with the occult

932
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,720
like I've had to deal with the occult.

933
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,320
And I've learned a lot about dealing with the occult.

934
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440
So anyway, that is that.

935
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
And I don't even, I might even just tell you,

936
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,280
you have to edit that all out.

937
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,240
I don't know.

938
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,280
I have to talk to my staff

939
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,120
because we haven't talked about that yet.

940
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,080
So. Yeah.

941
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,480
But Katie, as we're,

942
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,640
I know our time is a little bit short here today,

943
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,760
but I want to make sure that we give you an opportunity

944
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,200
to pray for the people that have been watching

945
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,120
because spiritual warfare is a very real thing.

946
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160
And the serpent and the soul is something

947
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,720
that we need to be paying attention to

948
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,600
and be aware of so that we have a battle plan

949
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,480
to not fall prey to the enemy.

950
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Would you just take this, take the next couple of minutes

951
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,240
and just pray for the people that have been watching

952
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,480
and that they would be encouraged to take the stand

953
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,320
and shake off those serpents?

954
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Yeah. You know, let's just go to the power source.

955
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040
Just repeat after me and say, Lord God.

956
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Lord God.

957
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,360
If there's an altar in my bloodline.

958
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,880
If there's an altar in my bloodline.

959
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,880
Or my life.

960
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,720
Or my life.

961
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,880
Where demonic sacrifices.

962
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Where demonic sacrifices.

963
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,280
Have been made.

964
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,120
Have been made.

965
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,480
In exchange.

966
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,360
In exchange.

967
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,480
For power.

968
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,320
For power.

969
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,240
Money.

970
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,080
Money.

971
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Influence and favor.

972
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Influence and favor.

973
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,120
I do as the prophet did in 1 Kings 13.

974
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,440
I do as the prophet did in 1 Kings 13.

975
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,160
I judge that altar.

976
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,220
I judge that altar.

977
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:41,940
I commanded to break apart and pour out ashes.

978
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,920
I commanded to break apart and pour out ashes.

979
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,960
And become not effective in my life.

980
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,600
And become not effective in my life.

981
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,360
And I decree that every witch or warlock.

982
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,720
I decree that every witch or warlock.

983
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,200
Or a cultic person.

984
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,280
Or a cultic person.

985
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,960
It no longer stretch forth their hand

986
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,700
from that altar to seize me.

987
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:01,560
Can no longer stretch forth their hand

988
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,440
from that eulter to seize me.

989
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,560
In the name of Jesus.

990
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,720
In the name of Jesus.

991
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:07,280
And I decree then.

992
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,240
And I decree then.

993
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,220
that their curses are null and void.

994
00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:12,020
That their curses are null and void.

995
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:13,080
They're illegal.

996
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,220
They're illegal.

997
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:17,000
Because Jesus already became a curse for me.

998
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,420
Because Jesus already became a curse for me.

999
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:20,540
And I decree.

1000
00:41:20,540 --> 00:41:21,380
And I decree.

1001
00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:22,480
That serpents,

1002
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,360
that serpents,

1003
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,080
who are carrying out the curse

1004
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,600
who are carrying out the curse

1005
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,880
are now arrested and restrained by court order.

1006
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,560
Are now arrested and restrained by court order.

1007
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,660
They can no longer attack my body.

1008
00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:36,320
They can no longer attack my body.

1009
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,160
My mind.

1010
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,020
My mind.

1011
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:51,780
My family, my friends, any part of my life, my business, my marriage, my finances, my church,

1012
00:41:51,780 --> 00:42:00,180
my ministry, or anything else. I judge them with holy fire, drive them out of hiding,

1013
00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:07,540
take them up as Jesus told me to, and throw them into the fiery abyss.

1014
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:16,660
In the name of Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Amen. Thank you, Lord. Hallelujah.

1015
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:21,300
Would you pray a blessing over the people that have been watching, too?

1016
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:27,540
Now, I fill you with fire. I fill you with fire right now in the name of Jesus. And I decree,

1017
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:32,260
as you sit in the presence of the Lord and you take partake of his communion, that any venom that

1018
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:38,420
the serpent put in you to cause diabetes or inflammation or gout or arthritis or cancer

1019
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:43,860
will have to drain out of your body. In the name of Jesus, all of those diseases are gone.

1020
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:50,580
And I command that your spine would regenerate as I decree. Those serpents are coming off your spine,

1021
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:55,540
off your bones, off your joints. Right now, I loose you from that attack by grace. I loose you

1022
00:42:55,540 --> 00:43:00,900
by the power of God, by the fire of God, by the blood of Jesus. And I decree regeneration in all

1023
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:05,700
of your bone structure and your joints and your cartilage and in every part of you. In the name

1024
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:12,260
of Jesus now. Thank you, Lord God. Amen. Amen. Katie, Suza, thank you so much for taking the time.

1025
00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:16,820
I know I could talk to you for a lot longer, and we might have to set up another opportunity for

1026
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:23,140
that. But we at Charisma are so excited to partner with you for this book, The Serpent and the Soul,

1027
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:28,260
Deliverance from Leviathan, Python and Other Strangling Spirits. And you've got to get a copy

1028
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:33,060
of this book for yourself so that you can have this battle plan. Katie, thank you so much for

1029
00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:54,420
joining us today. Really appreciate it. Thanks, John. Appreciate you.