CONFESSIONS of an Ex-WITCH: Witchcraft Infiltrated the Church - Deliverance Testimony

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And this demon became my spirit guide.

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He became like my best friend.

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And I used to do witchcraft with him.

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And I used to call upon his name.

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Julie Lopez, it's great to have you here on Charisma

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to share your story of how God has saved you

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and your family from five generations of witchcraft.

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And we're gonna get into that story in just a moment.

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But I just wanna encourage everybody listening

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that Julie is going to minister later on.

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She's gonna be praying for you.

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And so put in the comments what it is

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that you are believing God for freedom and deliverance from.

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And we wanna be able to pray with you.

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We're gonna go back through these comments

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and to be able to pray with that.

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But Julie, thank you so much for being here

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and sharing your story.

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Hi, John, thank you so much for having me here today.

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It's an honor for me to be able to share my story

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in your platform.

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That's wonderful.

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So Julie, I just wanna basically,

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I'm gonna ask you questions as you're telling the story,

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but tell me about these five generations of witchcraft

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that ran in your family and then how this broke.

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I know this is gonna be a bit of a longer story,

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so I wanna encourage everybody to make sure

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that you are paying attention

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because there's powerful things

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that she's gonna share along the way here.

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But Julie, how did this all begin with your family?

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So it began, as far as we know,

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it began with my great grandmother.

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We are originally from South America, from Colombia.

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So even since I'm young,

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I remember just growing up in a house

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where my grandmother, my great grandmother, my mom,

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were doing witchcraft, were doing the rituals,

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their baths, the different things in the house

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for protection.

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I also remember since I was really young age,

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I was really open to the spiritual realm.

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So without me knowing, without them telling me anything

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about there's demons or there's dark energy,

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because something that I realized

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that's super curious growing up is that my family knew,

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even though they were witches,

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that even at the time of accessing the spiritual realm

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of doing rituals, that they could be dark entities

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trying to enter at the time of maybe us doing rituals

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or meditations or things like that.

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So that's why even before doing these rituals,

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we will have to do cleansing to protect ourselves

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from these dark entities trying to infiltrate themselves

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at the time of us doing things.

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So I didn't know any of this.

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And since I was really an age,

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I started to have encounters with demons.

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And my first encounter was at the age of,

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I think I was really young, I was like around four.

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And I remember this demon enter my room.

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I was trying to sleep, I wasn't dreaming.

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I was literally awake and this demon entered the room.

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And the first thing that I remember

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is that this demon started to speak in tongues.

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As he was singing and he was entering the room,

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he was speaking in tongues.

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And at that moment I realized like this is evil

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because I could feel fear.

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As a young girl, I was in my bed shaking,

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sleeping next to my mother

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and my mother couldn't realize.

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Like it was like my spiritual senses were so activated

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that I could see things, I could hear things,

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I could feel things.

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And I remember this demon came next to me

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and he started to touch my feet.

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And by the time he was touching my feet,

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I could literally feel his hands.

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His hands were really hot, like boiling hot.

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And I remember from that moment,

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something was placed on my legs

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because I grew up having a lot of legs issues.

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I was doing sports, I was doing basketball,

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ballet, running, I was always quite active.

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And I remember at the age of 13,

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I had to quit because I had knees issues.

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And it wasn't after a few years later

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when I became a Christian,

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that actually the Lord showed me that that was a curse,

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that this demon was putting in my legs.

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So I wouldn't be able to do what God was calling me to do,

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which is part of my ministry that now is also dancing.

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So the enemy always tries to bring the opposite

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of what the Lord has called you to do.

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For example, if you have been called to be

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a mother of nations or father of nations,

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the enemy is going to try to release an orphan spirit

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so you don't fulfill the mission

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that the Lord has placed in your life.

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So growing up throughout my whole life,

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I realized like, wow, the enemy tried to bring the opposite.

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The enemy tried to counterfeit my gifts.

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The enemy tried to kill me at some point

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when I wasn't doing what he wanted me to do.

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And yes, that's how.

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Wow.

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So we're going to talk more about this,

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but I've got definitely some questions here.

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So you said that, you know,

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your mother and your great grandmother and your grandmother,

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they were mixing potions or baths or things.

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And this was just kind of like a normal thing

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in your family.

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What were they hoping to do

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and what was the results of those things?

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So my great grandmother, she was actually a medium.

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So she would literally speak to deaf people.

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People would go to her and she would communicate

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with their relatives, with the deaf people.

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She would like my, because by the time I was born,

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she was already quite old.

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She was like 75 years, 80 years.

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So, but I didn't see her doing all of the dark witchcraft

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that she was doing, but my mom was able to see everything.

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So she tells me that my great grandmother,

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she was a medium and she was also a shaman.

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So people will go to her for healing.

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People even like we found out recently

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that people will even go to her for exorcism.

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So there was something in my family.

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I don't know how she was doing that,

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but she will literally rebuke demons.

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So she could see the demons and she will rebuke the demons.

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But at the same time, she will be a medium

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and she would talk to these deaf people.

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And she was basically the one that trained my mom

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because by the time my mom was nine years old,

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her mother died.

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So she raised my mom and then when I was born,

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she took care of me for like years.

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But in the village, everyone would know my great grandmother

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as the healer, as the one that people will take their kids

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to her for like healing, something.

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So yeah, that was part of my family.

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We never had, I don't remember any type of intentions.

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It's something that you grow up with,

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that you see your family doing

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and it just becomes part of your DNA.

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Like I never in my life, I told people, I am a witch

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or we are doing ritual.

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So I used to go to school and I will tell my friends,

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hey, we are evolving this.

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I'm being trained to be a witch.

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Never, because I just never felt the necessity

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of sharing those things.

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And it wasn't until I became a Christian,

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like I didn't share my story before.

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12 years, like I have been a Christian for 14 years.

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And I only started to share this part of my story,

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like around two years ago, because I just,

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after my dad died, I just felt like a shame of my past.

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And I also thought that there wasn't any point

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of sharing this part of my story,

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but it wasn't until the Lord really put it in my heart

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to speak about darkness that I realized, wow,

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there's so many people buying it.

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There's so many Christians doing witchcraft.

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There's the church is sleeping and there's not enough people

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talking about the spiritual darkness

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and how we as the body of Christ, we need to infiltrate.

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So I believe this is a topic that we need to speak about

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because the body of Christ needs to be trained,

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needs to be prepared.

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I mean, the body of Christ needs to be aware

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that there is a spiritual realm that we have to come against.

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And for that, we need to know the church doesn't fight,

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the church doesn't do a spiritual warfare

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because the church doesn't know how to.

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So I believe this is something

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that we really need to talk about.

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Yeah, you mentioned earlier that the devil always brings

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the opposite of what God's promises are

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and God's plan is.

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And you mentioned that whenever that demon came

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into your room when you were four years old,

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that you said that it was speaking in tongues,

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but I'm assuming that that was definitely a demonic tongues.

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Can you explain a little bit about this?

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Because I don't think I've ever heard

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about a demon speaking in tongues.

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And tell me about your understanding of that.

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Yes, so that was my first experience

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of hearing demonic tongues.

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And I didn't realize that they were demonic tongues

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until I became Christian.

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But also me growing up, as we were doing rituals

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and witchcraft, we were also speaking in tongues.

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Like before we were doing the rituals,

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like I remember the last ritual that we did,

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before we entered into the spiritual realm,

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we were speaking in tongues.

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That's why for me, when I became a Christian,

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those were the demonic tongues.

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When I became a Christian,

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I struggled so much with accepting and speaking in tongues

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because I used to compare my background with Christianity.

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And I could see like some things like literally

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the enemy can't just feed everything.

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So that's why I didn't realize until one day,

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I literally, I could hear Christian people speaking in tongues

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and I started to judge and I started to say like,

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Lord, these are the demonic tongues.

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I don't believe in this.

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I don't want to speak in this because of my background.

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We were speaking in the demonic tongues.

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I could hear demons speaking in tongues.

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And that's when the Holy Spirit brought repentance

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to my heart and he told me,

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the enemy doesn't create, the enemy copies everything.

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And that's when he told me,

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the tongues that you hear were the demonic tongues,

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but there's something that are called angelic tongues,

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or heavenly tongues.

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So I had to repent,

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I renounced the demonic tongues that I was speaking.

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And a few years later I was baptized

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and the Lord came to me and they started to speak in tongues.

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And that's when I realized like, wow,

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there's so many people in church that are actually afraid

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of the things that the Lord has given to us.

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And that's when I realized the enemy doesn't create,

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he's not gonna just create tongues.

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He's not gonna create the gifts.

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He copies, he counters this.

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He steals everything that's been given to us

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as children of God.

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And that's when I kind of like the Holy Spirit

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reconciling myself to the gifts of the Spirit,

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because also like I realized like,

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maybe I cannot operate in my gifts.

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Maybe my gifts, the fact that I could read people's mind,

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the fact that I could see the future,

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the fact that I could see word of knowledge for people,

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maybe those things, the enemy gave them to me.

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And that's when I also have to realize that, wow,

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no, these gifts are for now,

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the Lord has given us gifts to the church,

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to the body of Christ for now.

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And these are our weapons that we use against the enemy.

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And that's when also when I started to go through

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the process of setting of deliverance,

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of setting myself free from covenants,

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from blood covenants,

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so to be able to operate in a level of purity

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in the things that God called me.

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Wow.

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So you said that you remember the last spell

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or the last ceremony that you did.

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What happened in that?

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And then what, like, what was that?

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What was the purpose of that?

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And then tell me about this change that happened.

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Tell me about meeting the Lord.

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So after a few years that we were in Colombia,

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I was really young, we moved to Spain.

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But in Spain, my mom used to have a lot of friends

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that were witches and we started first.

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I remember I started to be trained,

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but a witch that was moving in white witchcraft.

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So she told me, it was kind of like new age.

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She told me everything about meditation,

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the power of your words.

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I learned how to read candles,

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how to attract good things.

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I learned the power of my words and the power of dreams.

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And then when we moved to a different city,

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we lost contact with her.

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But now my mom became friends with a witch

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that was moving in black witchcraft.

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And let me tell you something,

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it doesn't matter if it's white witchcraft.

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Apparently the white magic was the one that we were doing,

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basically, and it doesn't hurt people

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if it doesn't harm anyone.

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But then we moved to the black magic

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and the black magic is control, manipulate,

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but every type of witchcraft is wrong.

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It doesn't matter if your intentions are good.

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Every type of witchcraft is wrong

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because the spirit that is guiding the experience

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is not the Holy Spirit.

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Our familiar spirits are demons.

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So this black witch started to train me now.

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She started to teach me about crystals,

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about tarot cards, tobacco reading,

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about basically cursing people

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that were doing wrong things to us.

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But the first time that she saw me,

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she told my mom, your daughter has a gift.

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And then we did a ritual and they consecrated me

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to a principality.

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It's basically one of the three Venezuelan powers.

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And this demon became my spirit guide.

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He became like my best friend

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and I used to do witchcraft with him

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and I used to call upon his name.

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I used to hear him, see him, feel him,

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having dreams with him, everything.

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But the last ritual that we had in my house,

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we were basically trying to connect with my spirit guide

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and we were trying to ask him questions about our future.

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So there was a bunch of witches there.

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There was my mom was there,

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the witch that was training me and other witches there.

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And I remember it was around, how many of us?

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There was around like seven of us

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and all of us started to speak in tongues and all of that.

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So the main witch, the one that was training me,

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she was a witch of her rank.

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She started to get possessed.

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And I remember her just, her body changed,

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her face changed, her voice changed.

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And she started to speak to us.

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So she looked at my mom and she tells my mom

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in a really evil voice, she tells my mom,

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this demon tells my mom,

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someone in your family is going to die in one week.

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And this demon keep asking my mom,

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do you want to know who it is?

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Do you want to know who it is?

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My mom starts to cry and I look at my mom

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and I'm like telling her like, let's close this

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because it looks like a demon infiltrated the meeting.

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So remember we were aware that even forces

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could come into the meeting.

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So that's why you have to do the Circus of Salt

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for protection and you have to do some bad

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or something before to kind of like protect.

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But at that point we realized there was a demon

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or someone that just entered

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and they're releasing this war.

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So we closed the section and eventually,

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at this point I was living with this witch.

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So I left the house, I went with her

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and one week later on the 28th of September, 2008,

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my mom calls this witch around five, six in the morning

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and she tells this witch,

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you have to bring Julie really quick to the house like now.

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So we packed our things and we went to the house

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and I could see this witch face.

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Like she was smiling the whole time.

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So I was thinking like nothing happened,

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everything is fine but as soon as we arrived to my house,

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my mom was crying, she was outside with my youngest brother

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and she was crying, crying.

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So I ran inside of the house

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and as soon as I entered the house,

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I felt this heavy atmosphere.

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I could feel this darkness, this cloud.

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I just don't even know how to describe it.

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And I felt like I was literally just moving inside

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of the house like in the spirit,

365
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like removing like webs, like spider webs,

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something so heavy.

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And I went to my father's room, to my parents' room.

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I saw the light on but I couldn't see my dad

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so I ran outside and I thought my father left us.

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Maybe he's going to divorce my mom,

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he abandoned us and I couldn't understand them.

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I felt like going to the storage

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that we have next to the house and I saw the door,

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it was a little bit open.

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And when I pushed the door, I saw my dad,

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he literally, he committed suicide, he hung himself.

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And I saw him there and eventually when I saw him there,

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I couldn't speak, I went back

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and I started to cry, to cry, to cry.

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Then my other brother came, he was around 11

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by the point he saw my dad too

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and his reaction was just anger.

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He started to scream, he started to just be like super angry.

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Then the police came, the psychologists came,

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the psychiatrists came.

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They found a letter that my dad left.

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They found a little bottle of alcohol next to his body

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and then they just gave me like a lot of pills

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because I was losing my mind.

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I remember we lasted in that house for five, six days

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because the atmosphere was so heavy.

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My mom tells me that they found me in the same place

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when my dad tried to commit suicide, I was hung.

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I was literally dying and they had to pull my body down

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and I could literally see my father passing by.

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Eventually they were familiar spirits.

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I could see the demons.

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I was dreaming of blood, nightmares,

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everything until my mom realized

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we have to leave this house.

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Like we are being tormented,

402
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these demons are trying to come against us.

403
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With a ritual that we did, we opened a portal in the house.

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We allow this demon to come and release death

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upon our house.

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Now, if we were Christians by that point

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and someone came to release death,

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we know that we can come against those things

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and that we can break those things.

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But by that point, we didn't know.

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So we left that house after one week

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and I remember my mom had a friend

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that she was a witch here in Columbia

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and this witch called my mom and told my mom,

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I in the spirit, she said,

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last night I saw in the spirit your husband,

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he was asking for help.

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I saw some demons tormenting him.

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So she tried to astral project to our house,

420
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but she said that when she tried to do it,

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she saw a black cloth on our house.

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And she said, that one of her rank took over your house

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and I couldn't enter to see what was going on.

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So by that point, my mom starts to cry

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and tells her like, you know, my husband committed suicide.

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And this witch tells my mom,

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the witch that was training Yuli,

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she is a witch of high rank

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and you know, all of your family are next.

430
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All of you are going to die

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if you don't break the covenants with her,

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if you don't break what you are doing with her.

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So my mom, straight away we move out of that house

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and she literally stopped talking to this witch.

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And, but then, you know, my spirit guide,

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by that point now it started to torment my mom.

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So my mom now is started to have thoughts of commit suicide,

438
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just kill all of your children

439
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and I remember my mom tells me one day that we were driving,

440
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she was driving and she literally,

441
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she was about to jump out of a cliff with a car

442
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because she could hear this demon telling her,

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just kill yourself, just kill your children.

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And there's nothing to lose, just do it.

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And at the time that she was about to do it,

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she stops and she's like, I cannot do it.

447
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And now that's when she realized, you know,

448
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witchcraft killed my husband and destroyed my family.

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She repented for witchcraft and she opened the Bible

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and she started to read Psalms 91 and Psalms 23

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to the point that every night for one month,

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we will speak those Bible verses until we learn it.

453
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But then after one month I left my mom, I was blaming her.

454
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I was broken, I was depressed, I had anxiety,

455
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I was an alcoholic by that point.

456
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I was trying to commit suicide.

457
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I was only 17 by that point.

458
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And I just left my mom and throughout that year

459
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that I was living with my ex, I was just completely broken.

460
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Like every possible, I didn't see anything.

461
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I didn't see a purpose, I didn't see a plan,

462
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anything I went through an abortion

463
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throughout that process too.

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So I was like body, soul, mind, spirit, everything.

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I was completely broken until one day I found Jesus

466
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and he changed my life.

467
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Wow.

468
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We're gonna talk about how Jesus changed your life

469
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in just a moment.

470
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840
But you said so much in those last few minutes

471
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that I have questions about.

472
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,780
So you were talking about black magic and white magic

473
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and there's a difference, but it's all demonic.

474
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Can you just elaborate on that just a little bit?

475
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And then I wanna talk about this whole spirit guide thing

476
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because I've heard about this,

477
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but it always seems like something out of fantasy.

478
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,160
But you've actually, you had a friendship

479
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with this spirit guide.

480
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,400
Let's talk about the white magic and black magic first though.

481
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Yeah, so the white magic,

482
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which is thing that is used for selfless purposes.

483
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So you use it apparently for healing,

484
00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:55,980
for blessings, for prayers.

485
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But what I was saying before is that any type of magic

486
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doesn't matter if you're not harming anyone is wrong.

487
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960
And now the black magic was the one that is used now

488
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,000
to manipulate people's feelings,

489
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to manipulate people's thoughts.

490
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This is like when you are in love with someone

491
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and you want that person to love you,

492
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you put like this type of spell on them.

493
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So it's kind of like you're manipulating their feelings

494
00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:25,680
and the black magic is also used to kill, to destroy,

495
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,780
to bring infirmities, to bring poverty, to bring curses.

496
00:22:29,780 --> 00:22:33,520
And now in the black magic, now do you use blood of animals,

497
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,960
you use humans, you use blood candles, plants, stones.

498
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160
There's different type of magic.

499
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,260
Sure, you have green magic, you have red magic,

500
00:22:44,260 --> 00:22:47,600
purple magic, so depends of the color.

501
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
People use different type of candles

502
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,340
or different types of plants,

503
00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:54,680
but every type of magic is wrong.

504
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480
Now, I believe that what we have now is a new age.

505
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,180
For me, the new age is quite similar to the white magic

506
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:03,280
that we use to practice.

507
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,480
Because what has happened now that I realize in society

508
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,220
is that they changed the name of the witchcraft

509
00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:15,500
to make it more nice, to make it more modern.

510
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:17,560
So the new age is basically that,

511
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,740
when you are like manifesting, when you are declaring,

512
00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:23,800
when you are like doing all of those things

513
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,300
to bring positive things, all of that stuff is witchcraft.

514
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:29,440
All of that stuff is absolutely wrong

515
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,480
and it doesn't matter what color

516
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or how many times they change their name,

517
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,680
it's going to be still evil because the Holy Spirit

518
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,560
is not guiding the experience.

519
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,120
So talking about guiding, this spirit guide that you had,

520
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,920
I need to hear more about this.

521
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,900
Because this is, it's been fantasized about in movies

522
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:55,200
and in cartoons and things.

523
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,440
It's like, oh, the spirit guide,

524
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,400
it's this nice thing that's helping me.

525
00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:02,540
And then now, I guess a common thing

526
00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:03,640
that people are talking about is,

527
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,680
oh, that's my spirit animal.

528
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,940
There's some weird things that are out there.

529
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:10,540
Can you help us understand this?

530
00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:12,160
And then of course, we're going to talk about

531
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,680
how you met Jesus.

532
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,620
So let's talk about the spirit guide

533
00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:17,420
and the spirit animal thing.

534
00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:20,200
You know, there's even now people say,

535
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960
oh, my ancestors, my ancestors are guiding me.

536
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,760
The spirit of my great-grandmother is now here

537
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,160
and is guiding me.

538
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,140
You know, in witchcraft, every person

539
00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:34,880
has some sort of like a spirit guide

540
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,580
or a spirit animal or an ancestor

541
00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:39,480
or something that they believe

542
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,980
that they are there to help you, to bring information.

543
00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:46,280
So when we were doing rituals,

544
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,060
we were accessing the spiritual realm

545
00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:51,420
through these spirits, through these demons

546
00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:54,760
that were bringing information to us.

547
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Now, what I realized when I became a Christian

548
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,260
is that you can access a spiritual realm

549
00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:04,900
through a legal way or through an illegal way.

550
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,640
Through the legal way, the Bible says is through Jesus Christ.

551
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,540
The Bible says in John that Jesus said that

552
00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:16,380
anyone who enters the door, like this place,

553
00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:20,060
through the window is a thief and a lover.

554
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,560
But those that enter through the gate,

555
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,760
those hear the voice of God, those are the sheep.

556
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Now, this is when I realized that you can access

557
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,700
the spiritual realm through these spirit guides,

558
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:35,700
through witchcraft, through Satanism,

559
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,200
through Budo, through meditation, through Buddhists.

560
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,680
So you have a lot of spiritual things now in the world

561
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,540
that give you access to the spiritual realm.

562
00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:48,220
But those things are illegal.

563
00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:50,880
Those things are counterfeit, that is a lie.

564
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,820
But Jesus said he is the way, he is the life, right?

565
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:56,280
He is the doorway.

566
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,860
So he is the only way that we can access.

567
00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:01,060
And that's why we have the Holy Spirit.

568
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,420
The Holy Spirit now becomes our friend.

569
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:05,100
He becomes our best friend.

570
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,300
He becomes our guide.

571
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,840
He is the one that counsels us.

572
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,800
He is the one that take us to Jesus

573
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,900
and Jesus take us to the Father.

574
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,300
Now, if you realize now in the spiritual realm,

575
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:20,380
in darkness, in witchcraft, now there's a spirit guide.

576
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:22,340
That's why I had a spirit guide.

577
00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:25,380
This spirit guide was taking me to the spiritual realm.

578
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:26,380
He was guiding me.

579
00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:30,520
He was leading me until at one point now.

580
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,760
He wanted me, he wanted to kill me

581
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,900
because I tried to commit suicide too, like so many times.

582
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,900
I was cutting myself and without me realizing,

583
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:43,600
I realized that my blood was giving him more power

584
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,640
and more authority over my life.

585
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,540
But now if you realize, Jesus died for us

586
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:52,480
and he literally left his blood on the cross for us.

587
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,880
So his blood, we have been reading him through his blood.

588
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,280
So there's a lot of like counterfeits

589
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,820
and kind of like similarities.

590
00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:02,480
And these people now that say like,

591
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,860
I have a spirit guide, I have a spirit animal.

592
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,520
You know, they believe that these demons,

593
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,920
these spirits are guiding them through this experience

594
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,660
and are protecting them.

595
00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:16,640
The enemy doesn't give you anything for free.

596
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,040
And now you see Jesus, he gave us salvation for free.

597
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,600
So the enemy is not going to give you anything for free.

598
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,780
He's going to make you think that you have the power

599
00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:30,180
because that's what we thought, that we had the power.

600
00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:33,980
He lies to you by making you think that you have the power.

601
00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:37,860
And then when you're not giving him what he wants,

602
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:39,320
now he's going to come against you.

603
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,460
Now you have to, you know, we used to know

604
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:46,160
when these spirits, these spirit guides were angry

605
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,340
and now we have to give them food.

606
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:50,600
We have to give them food offerings

607
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,540
and liquid offerings and money offerings

608
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:57,040
to try to, you know, to make them calm

609
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,180
so they wouldn't get angry with us.

610
00:27:59,180 --> 00:28:01,840
So it's just amazing to see how a lot of people

611
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,440
in the occultism, in witchcraft, in darkness, in the oasis,

612
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
people that are spiritual know these principles,

613
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,620
but now the church doesn't know.

614
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:12,480
And let me tell you something,

615
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,420
Holywood and these movies that you are saying

616
00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:17,820
about witchcraft and they have spirit guides,

617
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:20,900
they know more about the spiritual realm

618
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:22,440
that so many Christians.

619
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,300
They're infiltrating witchcraft in cartoons

620
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:33,020
for our children to be initiated from a young age.

621
00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:36,820
And the church of Jesus Christ is more concerned

622
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:40,280
about the vision, is more concerned about exposing

623
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,660
this person or exposing this person

624
00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:46,760
without realizing that we are literally bringing the vision

625
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,300
against the body of Christ.

626
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,160
The enemy doesn't need to send all of his demons against us

627
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,460
because we are doing the work for him.

628
00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:58,480
So it's just crazy to see how there's so much knowledge,

629
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,400
all of these people knows

630
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,420
and then we have the body of Christ and prepared,

631
00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:09,480
not ready for the battle and just fighting

632
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,220
unnecessary fights.

633
00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:16,020
Let's talk about your understanding of this now

634
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:17,560
and you're starting to preach there

635
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,260
and I was following along with you there,

636
00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:21,860
but how did you meet Jesus

637
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:24,100
and how did Jesus really change your life?

638
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,140
But then I wanna dig into like,

639
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:30,640
what do we as the church need to do to counteract

640
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000
or to counter this demonic attack

641
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,080
that is so blatant in our society?

642
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,680
So after that year, when I left my mom

643
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,780
and I went to live alone,

644
00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:45,560
as I said, I was completely broken.

645
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,420
I was honestly, I don't even know

646
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:49,980
why the Lord didn't allow me to die

647
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,600
because I tried to commit suicide so many times.

648
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,300
I tried to jump out of windows.

649
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:56,260
I tried to do everything possible.

650
00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:57,940
I didn't want to leave.

651
00:29:57,940 --> 00:30:01,000
And in one occasion, I went to visit my mom

652
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840
and someone took us to a church,

653
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,000
but they were giving, they were saying prophecies to people.

654
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,380
So my mom thought that those things were witchcraft.

655
00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:12,420
So I remember her being so angry, screaming in the church,

656
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:14,220
you're moving in witchcraft.

657
00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:17,120
Because she was now, she knew what witchcraft was.

658
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,020
So we left the church, but I remember in my heart,

659
00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:22,520
I went to my city and I remember in my heart,

660
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,400
I had like now like a seed, a seed was planted.

661
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,500
And I couldn't stop thinking about like,

662
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:30,000
maybe you need to go to a church.

663
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,740
Maybe you need to like find like someone.

664
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:34,860
And you know, I used to see my great grandmother

665
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:36,340
going to the Catholic church

666
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:38,580
and doing witchcraft with the saints.

667
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:43,080
So in my mind, I knew I don't wanna go to a Catholic church

668
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520
because I know that I knew that some of the saints

669
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,780
that they use behind there is a demon

670
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:50,320
and a principality moving.

671
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,020
So when people are praying to them,

672
00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:55,080
it's actually not a saint, it's actually not anyone holy.

673
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,300
It's actually a demon that they are praying to.

674
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,100
And so I started to ask my friends

675
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,700
and someone gave me the number of a church.

676
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,260
So I called them, I got the address

677
00:31:05,260 --> 00:31:07,100
and I went to the church.

678
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,500
It was in the next city.

679
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:11,680
It was like around like a 30 minute drive.

680
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,980
So I went by bus that day and I remember I was excited.

681
00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:17,020
Like something in my heart was like,

682
00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:20,140
I haven't felt this excitement for so long.

683
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:23,760
And as soon as I entered into the church

684
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,860
and I put my foot in that church,

685
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:31,320
the presence of God fell on me and I couldn't stop crying.

686
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,240
And for the first time in my life, I felt joy.

687
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,840
I felt freedom.

688
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,040
I felt, I just, something that I have never felt before.

689
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,100
Remember I was broken.

690
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,440
Like I did an abortion, I did a sacrifice.

691
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,320
My dad died, I saw my dad dying.

692
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,380
Like all of these things that I was carrying,

693
00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:54,380
it was like suddenly those things were put behind

694
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,780
and I could feel the presence of God.

695
00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:59,960
And the apostle of the house came.

696
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,860
He saw me and he hugged me.

697
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,220
He told me, welcome home.

698
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:07,740
And I was just crying and shaking by the presence of God.

699
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:09,500
And a few years later I asked God,

700
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,500
like why did you tell me welcome home

701
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,240
if I never been in your house before?

702
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,840
And why you didn't allow me to die?

703
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
And the Holy Spirit started to give me the visions

704
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,840
of when I was young, my aunt used to take me to church.

705
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,280
And I used to go to Sunday school when I was young.

706
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,480
And I could have these flashes in my mind

707
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,420
of going to school and people falling by the presence of God

708
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:37,520
and me reading the Bible.

709
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
And that's when the Lord told me your aunt

710
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,840
consecrated you when you were young.

711
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,540
So your great grandmother was consecrating you.

712
00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:49,680
But at the same time, your aunt consecrated you.

713
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,380
And there was a fight I could feel growing up.

714
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:53,880
The darkness was coming for me.

715
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,720
But at the same time, I had encounters

716
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,220
where angels were coming to protect me.

717
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:02,120
And I could see like this fight in the spirit.

718
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,820
And it wasn't until that point that I realized,

719
00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:09,060
wow, like the Lord has been protecting me this whole time.

720
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,560
And that's when I gave my life to Christ.

721
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,900
I felt like for 10 years, the Lord put me in this bubble.

722
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,500
And because I was so passionate about the spirit to him.

723
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,400
And as soon as I became a Christian, I told God,

724
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,280
I'm gonna come against the enemy.

725
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,780
I'm gonna study the monology.

726
00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:30,440
And the Holy Spirit told me, close that book.

727
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,020
You are going to focus first in getting to know me

728
00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:36,320
in intimacy with me in knowing about me.

729
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,560
So for 10 years, my whole life was learning

730
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,360
about the Holy Spirit, learning about intimacy,

731
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
learning about the power of forgiveness,

732
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,660
deliverance and all of this process.

733
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:52,160
And then after that one night, around four years ago,

734
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,440
the Holy Spirit told me, get ready for the battle.

735
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,000
And I didn't understand.

736
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,840
And in that moment, that's when I started

737
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,140
to share my testimony.

738
00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:02,840
When the Lord started to give me more revelation

739
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,820
about the spirit to him, the counterfeit and principalities

740
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,080
and the spiritual warfare.

741
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,380
And I myself had to go through war

742
00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,680
to be able to know how to fight.

743
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,980
And here we are.

744
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Yeah, so that's powerful.

745
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560
I mean, just how you were welcomed home,

746
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,660
even though you didn't realize that you had been

747
00:34:23,660 --> 00:34:25,240
to God's house before.

748
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:26,940
And that even from a young age,

749
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:28,900
that you were being preserved,

750
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,880
that there was a battle over your life.

751
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,880
Now that you have been, these 10 years or so,

752
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,520
where you closed the book on demons and everything,

753
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,820
but now God is using you in ways to help bring deliverance

754
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:49,800
and God's using your prophetic gifting as well.

755
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,320
Tell me about what you're doing now

756
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,800
and how you're seeing people being freed and blessed

757
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,140
by what you're doing.

758
00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:01,700
And anybody in the comments, write in there

759
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:03,580
what you are believing freedom for.

760
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,280
So the Holy Spirit throughout the last few years

761
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,280
have been using me in deliverance and spiritual warfare.

762
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:17,620
But something that I've realized that a lot of people think

763
00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:21,320
about at the time of spiritual warfare or deliverance,

764
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520
just a lot of people think, just pray for me

765
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,900
and I'm going to be set free.

766
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,200
You just do this and I'm not doing anything.

767
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,160
I'm teaching people that, hey,

768
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,340
like you also have to be accountable.

769
00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:36,140
You also need to fight for your own deliverance.

770
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,380
But one of the things that I teach people is in heaven,

771
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:43,640
there is a principle law, there is a law in heaven.

772
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,340
And that law is about forgiveness.

773
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:48,480
You wanna engage into spiritual warfare

774
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,420
and you wanna be set free

775
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:54,820
and you want to move in deliverance, start by forgiving.

776
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:58,960
Recently, let me tell you this quick test, testimony.

777
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,260
Recently, I have a friend that her father

778
00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:05,700
had an encounter with an angel.

779
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,260
He literally saw an angel sitting next to him

780
00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:11,280
and this angel was speaking to him for two hours.

781
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,780
And everything that this angel was telling him

782
00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:17,480
was about forgiveness and how the body of Christ

783
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,080
has forgotten about the importance of forgiveness

784
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,320
and about the importance of loving and blessing

785
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,480
other people.

786
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,220
So when he told him and he was telling me the story,

787
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:30,020
I started to cry because it's like,

788
00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:34,200
we literally are teaching people how to be set free

789
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,720
and how to cast out demons,

790
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,460
but we are not teaching people how to forgive.

791
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:41,560
And that's a spiritual principle that Jesus said,

792
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,440
if you don't forgive,

793
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,100
my father who is in heaven won't forgive you.

794
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,240
That's huge right there.

795
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,740
So we have a bunch of people casting out demons

796
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:52,340
and doing the spiritual warfare

797
00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:55,480
without understanding one of the first spiritual principle,

798
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,280
which is forgiveness and forgiving other people

799
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,420
and forgive those that have hurt you,

800
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:01,520
those that have abused you.

801
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,020
Like you want to step into another level of dimension

802
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,220
in the spirit, because let me tell you something,

803
00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:10,120
in the spirit you have a lot of dimensions.

804
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,760
You don't have just heaven and hell and earth.

805
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,200
There are a lot of dimensions in the spirit,

806
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,700
different type of phenomena that allow you to go

807
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,540
to these type of dimensions.

808
00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:22,140
But only through forgiveness and through Jesus Christ

809
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:23,780
that you're going to be accessed,

810
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:26,980
the full package that the Lord has for you in your life.

811
00:37:26,980 --> 00:37:28,340
So what am I doing now?

812
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:29,440
I'm teaching people, yes,

813
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,080
I'm teaching people about deliverance,

814
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,620
but I'm also teaching people about the fruits of the spirit,

815
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:38,720
because we see so many people teaching about the gifts,

816
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,500
teaching about how you prophesy,

817
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,300
how you cast out demons, how you speak in tongues.

818
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:45,840
But we are not teaching people about the fruits

819
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960
of the spirit and about the character of Jesus Christ.

820
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,700
And the fruits and the gifts go together.

821
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,000
They complement each other.

822
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,480
And this is what I'm doing.

823
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,740
This is what I'm kind of like teaching people

824
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:03,480
and whatever the Holy Spirit leads me in this season.

825
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,320
That's awesome.

826
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,180
The fruits and the gifts go together,

827
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,080
but they're not often taught that way.

828
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,360
What are some things that you are teaching about that

829
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,000
specifically that God has shared a revelation with you

830
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,460
that you're now teaching with others?

831
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:17,700
Let's go deeper into this,

832
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:19,460
because I think there's something really special here.

833
00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:21,400
One of the things that I have realized

834
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,640
about the gifts of the spirit is that like,

835
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,580
if you are operating in the gifts of the spirit,

836
00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:31,140
but you don't have love, you are operating in witchcraft.

837
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:34,440
This is when I realized too, like when we were operating in,

838
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,480
you know, we used to see things for the future

839
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,580
and we used to see all of these things,

840
00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:39,880
but we didn't have love.

841
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,080
That's witchcraft.

842
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,220
Everything that you are doing,

843
00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,960
no guided by the Holy Spirit,

844
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,360
and not moving on that thing out of love,

845
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,320
you're literally moving in witchcraft.

846
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,060
So now I started to realize that the gifts of the spirit,

847
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:57,200
the 10 gifts of the spirit and the 10 to the spirit,

848
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,700
they come together.

849
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:02,200
So how they come together, they complement each other.

850
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,400
For example, if you are a person that you move

851
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,620
in the gift of word of knowledge,

852
00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:08,940
and the word of knowledge is that one where

853
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:11,880
you actually see something specific for a person,

854
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,520
for about a situation for maybe a country,

855
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,460
like something specific that is happening

856
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:21,660
or something that has already happened.

857
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:24,560
But now what is the fruit of the spirit

858
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,260
that is going to complement the word of knowledge?

859
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:32,980
Is going to be humility, the fruit spirit of humility.

860
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:34,300
Why?

861
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,780
Because that fruit is going to balance the gift.

862
00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:39,080
Why?

863
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,280
Because if you are operating in this word of knowledge,

864
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,620
what is going to happen is that you can grow in pride.

865
00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:47,320
You can become proud.

866
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,080
You can grow in pride.

867
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,120
That's what is going to path you up.

868
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,920
If you have the word of knowledge,

869
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,000
if you are like prophesying,

870
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,200
that's going to path you up.

871
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,860
But the fruit of the spirit of humility

872
00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:03,400
is going to make you meek, is going to make you humble,

873
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,400
is going to make you realize that this is not coming

874
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,640
from you.

875
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,740
This is like a weapon that the Holy Spirit has given you

876
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,040
so you can advance God's kingdom.

877
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,420
Now, another gift that we have is the killing.

878
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,360
We have the gift of killing.

879
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,580
So how are you going to balance the gift,

880
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:25,620
what fruit is going to balance that,

881
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:27,500
is going to be kindness?

882
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,120
Because if you see in the Bible,

883
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,860
Jesus was moved by kindness.

884
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:34,460
But now if you are operating in this gift

885
00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:37,800
because you want other people to see you,

886
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,880
because you want other people just to see how amazing

887
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,680
you are at healing and how many people are moving

888
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,920
and are coming to you because you are healing

889
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,720
or you are casting out demons,

890
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,880
you're also growing another level of pride.

891
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
That is why we do have kindness.

892
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,360
Now you are realizing that you're operating in love.

893
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,800
So each one of the gifts of the spirit

894
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,060
are linked to a fruit of the spirit.

895
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:08,240
And that is what is going to help us to operate

896
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:12,040
in a level of humility that, for example,

897
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,140
the witches of other people don't know.

898
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:17,140
And this is what I see that is happening right now.

899
00:41:17,140 --> 00:41:18,820
And this is like part of a prophecy

900
00:41:18,820 --> 00:41:20,780
that the Lord gave me for 2024,

901
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:25,660
is that the Lord was exposing people and pastors

902
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:29,420
and prophets because he cares more about their soul

903
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:31,200
than their ministry,

904
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,860
because their character is not aligning to that anointing

905
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,260
that they carry.

906
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:39,600
So that's why it's so dangerous for us to,

907
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,500
you know, when we are training people and equipping people,

908
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,040
but actually we are also not teaching them

909
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,500
the fruits of the spirit.

910
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,480
And we are not teaching them about humility.

911
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,320
And we are not teaching them about like,

912
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,820
even if you are the most accurate prophet in the world,

913
00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:57,880
you need to operate from a level of humility.

914
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,020
Because when you are, let me tell you something,

915
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:02,920
Satan was cast out of heaven because of pride.

916
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,700
Lucifer was cast out of heaven because of pride,

917
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,660
not sexual immorality, pride.

918
00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:12,740
And that's exactly what the enemy uses against these men

919
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:15,700
or these men or women of God is pride.

920
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:18,840
So what is going to counter-attack that pride

921
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,580
is going to be meekness and it's going to be humility

922
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:23,040
and it's going to be love.

923
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,220
So that's why for me, the gifts of the spirit

924
00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:28,120
and the fruits of the spirit walk together

925
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,360
and they are so important and they should be told together

926
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,160
so people can operate in these things,

927
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,020
in a level of purity, in a level of holiness,

928
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:40,500
realizing that, you know, it's not about us.

929
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:42,300
It's not how amazing I am a prophet,

930
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:46,400
and it's not how amazing I am casting demons out.

931
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,540
It's the grace of Jesus Christ in me

932
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:51,240
that is allowing me to operate in this way.

933
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,340
And all the glory goes to him.

934
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:54,940
It comes to me.

935
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:56,180
So.

936
00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:58,340
Amen, amen, that's powerful.

937
00:42:58,340 --> 00:43:00,480
You know, in just a moment, I'm going to ask you to pray

938
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,080
for everybody that's been watching here.

939
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,960
But before we get into that,

940
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
you made mention earlier of your family

941
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,720
going to a Catholic church

942
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,060
and you didn't want to go to a Catholic church

943
00:43:10,060 --> 00:43:12,660
because you knew that there were demons

944
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:14,800
behind some of these saints.

945
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,600
Could you explain that and really how witchcraft

946
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000
has gotten into the church as a whole?

947
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,500
Because that's something that we had talked about earlier,

948
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,780
but, you know, there's a danger

949
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:29,820
that we've allowed into the church

950
00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:32,180
because we're just unaware,

951
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:35,320
or we've let things in and trying to be inclusive

952
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,320
and trying to bring people to Jesus,

953
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:45,300
but sometimes we're just not protecting the gate as well.

954
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:49,140
So help us understand a little bit about that syncretism,

955
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:51,100
that witchcraft coming into the church.

956
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:55,060
Wow, this is a topic that really burns inside of me

957
00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:58,040
because I have seen it so much.

958
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,080
And this is why I say the Church of Jesus Christ

959
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,300
is sleeping, the Church of Jesus,

960
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,840
some churches don't know spiritual warfare.

961
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,820
They don't know what is the enemy doing.

962
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:12,720
So coming back to the Catholic part of it,

963
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,260
I know there's a lot of people that get offended by this,

964
00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:17,120
but I don't want to offend anyone.

965
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,360
I'm talking from my own experience

966
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,560
and I'm talking from teachings that I have also done

967
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,140
and studies about like Catholicism, the saint,

968
00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:30,300
and what moves behind every saint,

969
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,200
which is basically principalities

970
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,300
and people can go right there and start doing studies

971
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,540
and all of these things.

972
00:44:37,540 --> 00:44:39,780
That's why the Bible is so clear about like

973
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:43,080
no worshiping idols or no worshiping status

974
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,980
or anything that you have built a faith

975
00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:47,780
or anything like that, because that's idolatry.

976
00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:50,520
And you know, idolatry, what idolatry does,

977
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,920
idolatry brings blindness and deafness.

978
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,900
So you become spiritually blind

979
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:58,300
and you become spiritually deaf.

980
00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:01,040
And now not only through Catholicism,

981
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,540
but even right now in churches,

982
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:07,380
we see so many people and prophets and pastors

983
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:09,200
operating in witchcraft.

984
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,740
They have become God.

985
00:45:11,740 --> 00:45:14,340
And what I see right now is that so many people

986
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:16,720
are carrying idolatry in their hearts.

987
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,080
They are idolizing these men of these women of God.

988
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,720
And that's also witchcraft,

989
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,660
because witchcraft is not just you cursing people.

990
00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:28,620
Witchcraft is not just you making some potions.

991
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:32,960
And no, witchcraft is control and manipulation.

992
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,240
So this is why I was saying before,

993
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:39,140
the moment that we allow pride in our hearts,

994
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:43,380
we are open portal for a spirit of witchcraft to enter,

995
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:45,840
for a spirit of Jezebel to enter.

996
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,520
Now you have pride.

997
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,520
So now those demons have legal right to enter

998
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,560
and start to operate through witchcraft in your church.

999
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,420
Now the church becomes a place of control.

1000
00:45:57,420 --> 00:46:00,120
The church becomes a place of manipulation.

1001
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,300
And the church now becomes a place

1002
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:06,660
where the gifts are literally operating more

1003
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:09,400
than the holiness and the presence of God.

1004
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,800
You know, but people are still walking in sexual immorality.

1005
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,980
That's fine, but come and prophesy.

1006
00:46:14,980 --> 00:46:18,580
You know, but people are still walking in drug addiction.

1007
00:46:18,580 --> 00:46:20,780
Hey, that's fine, cast out demons.

1008
00:46:20,780 --> 00:46:23,620
And we actually have literally tell people

1009
00:46:23,620 --> 00:46:26,080
there is a level of holiness

1010
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680
that we have to bring back to our churches.

1011
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,120
It's not that we are not allowing people to come

1012
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,820
and we are becoming inclusive people,

1013
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:37,600
but we have to carry a level of holiness,

1014
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,640
because the Bible says that only those that are holy

1015
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,740
will see the face of God.

1016
00:46:42,740 --> 00:46:47,140
Only those that are becoming like that will see his face.

1017
00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:49,780
So why are we teaching people that it's okay

1018
00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:53,640
to still operate in witchcraft and come and prophesy?

1019
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,980
Why are we, why are prophets and pastors

1020
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,980
and evangelists operating themselves

1021
00:46:59,980 --> 00:47:02,580
in that within the church?

1022
00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:04,860
They are literally being the example

1023
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:09,220
and they are being the stone on the way of these people.

1024
00:47:09,220 --> 00:47:12,300
So the witchcraft right now, yes, is in the church.

1025
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:15,560
We think that witches and warlocks and Satanists

1026
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,140
are trying to infiltrate the church,

1027
00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:19,840
which let me tell you, they are,

1028
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,800
but there are a lot of anointing men and women of God

1029
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,380
that are also operating in witchcraft.

1030
00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:31,220
And we think that because they carry a big following

1031
00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:34,320
or because they move in the gifts of the spirit,

1032
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,780
the Lord is with them.

1033
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,020
Let me tell you something,

1034
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:39,960
a lot of them the Lord is not with them,

1035
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920
but the Lord respect their office

1036
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,660
and the Lord respect the gifts that those people carry.

1037
00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:48,660
But that's why we need to see the fruits of the spirit.

1038
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:50,300
And in this season, I'm telling you,

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we need to have so much discernment, so much discernment.

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You need to learn to hear the voice of God by yourself.

1041
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,280
Yes, if you have a pastor, if you have a prophet, great,

1042
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but you need to learn yourself to hear the voice of God

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because there's so many wolves right now

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dressing in sheep clothing, deceiving the church.

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And that's why we have to be careful.

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Witchcraft is here.

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00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,000
And let me tell you something more that I was going to say.

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Now that the elections are coming in the USA,

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what do you think the witches are doing?

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00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:30,300
September and October are the months of more

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00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,720
spiritual activity and witchcraft being done in the USA.

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00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,940
So now what does the body of Christ have to do?

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What all of us supposed to be doing?

1054
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:43,520
We're supposed to be fasting for the next elections.

1055
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We're supposed to be praying.

1056
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,360
We're supposed to be doing a spiritual work for prayers.

1057
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,620
We're supposed to be consecrations

1058
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:55,400
and not wait for one day before the elections

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to come into prayer and to call alive

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to pray for the elections a few days before.

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This is what I see.

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So let me tell you that, like witches right now

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are doing witchcraft for the elections

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because they also have an agenda.

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They don't wait until the elections.

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They are doing right now.

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That's why we as the body of Christ,

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we have to open our eyes.

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We have to awake.

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We have to be trained.

1071
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,660
We have to be equipped.

1072
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Let me tell you one of the biggest spiritual weapons

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that the body of Christ has

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00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000
that darkness don't have is love.

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That's one of the biggest one.

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If we carry love, they cannot do anything against love

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because God is love.

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Jesus Christ is love.

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So if we carry enough

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00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:46,620
and we are entering into spiritual warfare,

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the battle is ours.

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Amen, amen.

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If we carry love, the battle is ours in spiritual warfare.

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You know, Julie, I don't wanna miss this opportunity

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to have you pray for the people that are watching.

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00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,020
I really appreciate everything that you have shared

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from your testimony to helping us to kind of identify

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how witchcraft is infiltrating into the church.

1089
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What do we do about those things?

1090
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,780
How do we call that out, but how do we protect ourselves?

1091
00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:19,020
Because it's easy to say that it is infiltrating,

1092
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but we need to do something about it too.

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00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:25,060
Would you pray in addition to however the Lord leads you

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that we would be able to be on our defense,

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but not just be on our defense with this stuff,

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00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,500
but to actually take offensive stance

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00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,700
and actually take ground as opposed to just trying

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to defend what's there already.

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00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,100
Yeah, and I believe one of the inciters

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that the Lord has given the church for this season

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is deliverance, is deliverance, is repentance,

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is forgiveness.

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That is what is going to lens the bright of Jesus Christ

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00:50:55,980 --> 00:50:57,920
to be able to fight properly.

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But this is why I was saying before,

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why is the church engaging into all of this division

1107
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and let me expose this person, let me expose this.

1108
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There are no operating in love.

1109
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So first of all, repentance, deliverance, forgiveness,

1110
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lensing ourselves first, because let me tell you something,

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everything starts from us.

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Deliverance has to start in us

1113
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480
as we want deliverance for our nation.

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Then let the deliverance start in you.

1115
00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:27,020
We want revival for our nation.

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00:51:27,020 --> 00:51:29,240
Let the revival start in you.

1117
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:33,080
Everything has to start in us, in our secret place.

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00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,360
If we want to be able to now spread all of that.

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Now, I wanna pray.

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I wanna pray for those that have been struggling

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00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,800
in this season with hearing the voice of God,

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00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,240
those that have been also fighting,

1123
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,060
that are Christians that have been doing witchcraft

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consciously or subconsciously.

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And Father, in the name of Jesus,

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Father, I just place all of these people

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in your hands right now.

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And I just pray right now, Holy Spirit,

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would you remove every veil

1130
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:06,160
that is blinding your people right now?

1131
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,460
Father, whether they, maybe they have watched things

1132
00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,020
that they shouldn't have watched.

1133
00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:13,700
Maybe they have heard things that they shouldn't.

1134
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But Father, I just declare the blood of Jesus

1135
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,160
upon their eyes and the blood of Jesus upon their ears.

1136
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,240
And Father, we just break every veil right now

1137
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:25,840
that has been stopping them from seeing the truth

1138
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,800
in Jesus' mighty name.

1139
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,640
Father, I declare right now that their eyes

1140
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,840
of their understanding are going to be open

1141
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,180
in this moment.

1142
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:39,160
Father, I bind every spirit of oppression,

1143
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,320
every spirit of confusion,

1144
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,220
every spirit of divination in their lives,

1145
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:46,300
every spirit of infirmity.

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We cast it out right now in Jesus' name.

1147
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:52,040
And Father, thank you because in this system,

1148
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,840
we just declare Father that those ones, Father,

1149
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,440
are going to rise as an army.

1150
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,140
Those that have felt dead spiritually,

1151
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:02,840
those that have been dead physically,

1152
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,340
we just prophesy that the wind of the Holy Spirit

1153
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:09,220
is coming to them right now from the north,

1154
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:11,680
from the south, from the east, from the west.

1155
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,460
And that those people are going to resurrect

1156
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:16,960
in this season in the name of Jesus.

1157
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,360
Father, let their dreams be resurrected.

1158
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,860
Let their visions be resurrected.

1159
00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:25,800
And Father, I just pray for the end time army

1160
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,100
to raise up in this season,

1161
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:31,880
for the remnant Father to raise up in this season

1162
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,440
in Jesus' mighty name.

1163
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,920
We pledge the blood of Jesus in the four corners

1164
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,220
of the Church of Jesus Christ,

1165
00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:41,320
in the corners of our houses.

1166
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,620
And with that declare that no weapon

1167
00:53:42,620 --> 00:53:44,960
will form against us, shall prosper.

1168
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,920
And Father, thank you for that dome of protection.

1169
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,220
And Father, will you even release

1170
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:53,560
your angels of war in this season

1171
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,740
that are coming to help to fight this battle.

1172
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:58,400
But Father, thank you because we know

1173
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,740
that we are not fighting for victory,

1174
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:03,300
but we are fighting for a place of victory.

1175
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:06,280
So we just declare that we have the victory right now

1176
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,240
in Christ Jesus.

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So Lord, thank you.

1178
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:12,020
We give you all the glory and all the honor.

1179
00:54:12,020 --> 00:54:13,620
We just ask you, Holy Spirit,

1180
00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:16,260
that you take control over these elections

1181
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:18,920
that are coming, that you are going to raise up,

1182
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,460
other men and women of God that are understanding,

1183
00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:24,800
Father, in these spiritual matters.

1184
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,000
And Father, thank you for your protection and your love.

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In Jesus' name we pray, amen.

1186
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Amen, amen.

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00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,880
Julie, thank you so much for sharing your story

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00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,940
and ministering to us here today on Charisma.

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Thank you so much, John, for having me.

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Until next time.

CONFESSIONS of an Ex-WITCH: Witchcraft Infiltrated the Church - Deliverance Testimony | Julie Lopez

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