Dr. Chuck Pierce Shares Prophetic Word for the Upcoming Years

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Your identity in Christ is valuable.

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It's actually invaluable.

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You can't put a price on it because it is something that Jesus has given us, His identity

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for our lives.

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And for us to be able to know that will change your life dramatically.

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I'm John Matarazzo with Charisma News, and today I'm going to be joined by the one and

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only Chuck Pierce to talk about his book, The King's Signet Ring, Understanding the

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Significance of God's Covenant with You.

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And we're going to also talk about some of the things that are coming in the future.

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And he's got a book coming out next year, but 2023 is just around the corner.

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So I'm going to be asking him, what is God saying for this new year?

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So Chuck, it's great to have you on the Charisma News podcast.

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John, what a blessing.

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And I bless Charisma and everyone there, their dear friends, and what you guys do for the

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body of Christ is amazing.

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Well, thank you very much.

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It's an honor and pleasure to be able to co-labor with you and to publish your books and to

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the message that God has entrusted you with, that you come and work with us, that you work

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with other people as well.

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And just we co-labor to get the Word out to the masses so that people's lives can truly

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be changed.

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I don't know of any people that get the Word out more than you guys do, and keep us abreast

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of what's happening in the Christian world.

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Yeah.

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Well, thank you.

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Well, speaking about what's happening in the Christian world, I think it's easy for us

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to be overwhelmed by what's happening in our news today.

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And I know for me, I have to keep going back to who does God say that I am, because there's

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so many...

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It'd be really easy to be swayed by different winds of doctrine or the news media or this

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doom and gloom thing.

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But if I can stand on who I am in Christ, that helps me have a good foundation.

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So I know that that's a big part of the King's signet ring.

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So I'd like to talk about that.

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Well, when you start mentioning what you just mentioned, I think that's why Alamu Bitu and

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I made sure this book got out there, because I don't think it's something we fully understand

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in the body of Christ.

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I know that we have to know our identity, but we also have to know how to exercise our

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authority.

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And this book helps with both of that.

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And it is so important for us to learn how to wear Christ, no matter where we're at out

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in the world.

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And right now, the Lord told us, He said, be in the world, but not of the world.

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And so it's very important that no matter what situation we're in, especially in the

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changing chaotic world around us, that we represent that mantle that He is in our life.

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And really, the book is about that.

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It talks about Esther.

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It talks about Daniel.

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It talks about many, many people, Joseph, who had that coat of many colors.

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That's a type of signet also.

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And then it talks about the return that's happening with the prodigal son returning

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and regaining his identity and his authority.

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And really, I believe we're all at one of these stages in our life right now.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's so easy to forget who we are and the authority that we do have, because

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we look at ourselves through a physical lens, through our physical eyes, and it's really

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easy to forget what the Word of God says.

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What are some things that have stood out to you as you were studying and as God was revealing

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deeper meanings behind these signet rings?

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I think one of the hardest things for anyone in the body of Christ, when we come in and

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bring our spirit back to the Lord, He is the father of our spirit.

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We might have the identity of Mother, Father in the earthly realm, but we have to know

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that He created our spirit.

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And when we return and realign our spirit in covenant with Him, we are the righteousness

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of God in Christ Jesus.

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Well, the world's not righteous, and yet the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.

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And so for us to wear that righteousness that God has given us to wear, we are transformers

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out in the world, and everything we address we should operate in the same authority that

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He came here to demonstrate to us when He addressed religious spirits, when He addressed

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governmental forces.

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We have to learn how to gain access, and then once we have access, address those with the

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authority, the same authority that we represent from heaven.

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Wow.

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So that access that we have, you're saying that all believers have access.

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We all have access, but then you look at someone like Esther.

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She went through a year of preparation, and her real moment came is when she gained access

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to the King.

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But that was just the beginning.

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See, a lot of times, John, we have to gain the access.

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And one of the things I also think the body of Christ miss in many areas is once you gain

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access, Esther had to have a plan to overthrow the enemy.

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And then once she exposed the enemy, she then was given the signet ring to go and overthrow

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all of Haman's rulers, all of his sons in every province.

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And I really think that is one of the best examples of where we're living right now.

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We all live in territory, and in a territory somewhere, in a nation somewhere, I've always

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been involved throughout the world with other nations.

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And we have to know that God has put us in time so that we gain access and strategy so

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that we enforce what he did on the cross and really overthrow the enemy that's trying to

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rule our territory.

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I like how you said that we need to have access and strategy.

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What happens if we have access but we haven't prepared ourselves with the strategy?

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Well, let's look at Esther.

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Let's look at Joseph.

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Let's take Joseph first.

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What if he had stopped using his guilt in prison?

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One of the things Christians need to know is we are very gifted.

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And as we exercise that guilt, no matter in what situation we're in, it's going to give

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us access.

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Joseph interpreted dreams in prison.

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He never stopped, no matter what situation he was in, he never stopped his guilt from

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working.

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But that brought him into access.

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Pharaoh gave him access.

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And from that access, Joseph had a strategy to interpret Pharaoh's dream.

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And from that strategy, he not only saved a nation, but he extended the covenant plan

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that God had for his people.

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That's what strategy does for us.

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It's not enough just to have favor and gain access.

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We have to know what we're up against.

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So would you say that that strategy comes with experience and faithfulness and being

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submitted to God and letting him lead you?

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I think there's a couple of things.

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Hebrews 514 says, we have discernment is created by the word and also by the spirit.

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I think we're living in a supernatural time now.

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I think we must know the word.

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Now I am a diligent student of the word.

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When I was 18, the Lord spoke to me at Texas A&M.

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And when I came into the Holy Spirit, and then he led me back to the word of God.

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And he told me he wanted me to be able to have my daily quiet time without opening the

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book.

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He wanted me to know the word so well that I could read Jeremiah 31 without opening the

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book.

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Now, we have to have the word built within us.

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That is part of our identity.

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And then from that, and I'm writing that book for you guys on perspective, we see the world

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from that viewpoint.

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Because that is the way our thought process, our mind has been transformed.

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But from that also, we have to discern by the spirit because we're in a supernatural

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time.

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The world we're in, this decade we're in is very supernatural.

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And if you just know the word and you can't discern by the spirit, you're going to end

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up failing in some areas.

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So what charisma means is what we really need to have in operation.

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And it needs to intensify year after year after year as we proceed into the era ahead.

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Well, yeah, let's dive into that perspective.

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I mean, your book is going to be coming out in the future, and I'd like to actually talk

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about the future because that's part of the current byline of the book.

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So it's perspective, how to see the future God has for you.

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So the future that God has for us is that your book is going to be coming out in the

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future.

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So everybody keep a lookout for that.

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But how do we see the future that God has for us?

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Well one thing that I always do is I try to understand that God is not in time, but he

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has put me in time.

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And Acts 17 says he predetermines my time and my place.

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Well that's where faith works, is in time and place.

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Faith just doesn't operate.

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Demons believe.

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But we exercise our faith.

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We demonstrate our faith in time and place.

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And so the importance of my understanding that God has used me a lot in the body of

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Christ for is to help them understand the time.

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I remember back when God visited me in 1986 and showed me in 10-year increments where

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we would be through 2026.

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Now I've written three books on that.

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Now one of the things I want to do in this perspective book is bring where we are so

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that we can see into the future because God doesn't do anything without first revealing

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himself to the prophets.

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And with that, God showed me China.

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He didn't show me just the American church.

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He showed me China.

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I was working with a group in China in the 80s.

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And he showed me China and where it would be as a ruling power and nation by 2026 and

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how we would be affected by it.

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Well once you see from God's perspective and gain revelation from God, whether it be in

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a simple situation in your family life, whether it be for the nations, whether it be for the

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entire world, you see from that revelatory perspective.

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And I want to say to us, we are living now in a new historical era.

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That began in September 2019 and all of us know how we were affected at Passover in March

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2020.

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God pulled us all back behind our door just as Passover was meant to be held.

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Not just the Jews, but the Gentiles as well.

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And he said, wait a minute, I'm going to get you all on the same page because things are

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going to start changing and accelerating rapidly.

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And now we are in the midst of those changes.

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And with that, if we don't see clearly, we get confused, we get overtaken.

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We're not walking by the Spirit.

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I love what you said.

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Steve is writing that book, Walking in the Spirit in a Chaotic World.

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Well I mean, if you cannot have God's perspective, the chaos around you and the spiritual forces

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around you are going to influence you in a wrong way.

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Absolutely.

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And it's easy to be overwhelmed.

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I remember back in the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, feeling like the world is coming

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to an end.

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The things that I've been reading in Revelation and in the Bible about the end times, it seems

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like it's right here and there's nothing I can do about it.

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And I'm just going to have to deal with persecution or whatever comes.

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And I went through some moments of panic.

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But I think a lot of people did.

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I think a lot of people did.

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But getting back to my identity in Christ, knowing who I am has definitely helped keep

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things back in perspective.

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And then I was able to actually come out of the pandemic, I think in a better situation

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than whenever I went into it.

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I think that's for those who kept a clarity of what they were seeing during that time

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and not come under the fear.

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See, fear can be a caution to us, but it can also be an emotion that we have, but it can

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also be a spirit that overtakes us.

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And I believe there was a spirit of fear trying to overtake God's people during that time

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so we would not demonstrate faith.

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And so with that, I believe our clear perspective comes from the core that is within us.

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And I know with me, I started building my core center when I was 18.

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And it's powerful because of the belief that I have.

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And all of my understanding operates out of that core.

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And then you take someone like Daniel in the Bible, think about it.

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That was a chaotic time.

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And he was chosen to rule, be one of the top rulers in Babylon.

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And so I don't think we as God's people can shrink back from the world.

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I think we have to know how to operate in our authority in the world and not let the

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world overtake our identity.

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And this book will help people with that.

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But the perspective book that I'm writing for you, why I've had a little difficult time,

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I didn't want to just teach on how to see.

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I wanted to be able to say through 2026 and beyond, this is what we will be seeing.

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Wow.

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So let's talk about that.

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I mean, we're at the beginning of December right now.

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2023 is just around the corner.

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And it seems like 2022 just flew by.

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And so it seems like time is accelerating for sure.

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What is God showing you about 2023?

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And what can we expect?

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Well, see, this whole era that we're in is about how we speak, but it's also about how

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God speaks.

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See, it's called in Hebrew, the era of pay.

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So when you decode that word through the word of God, that means there's a breath of heaven

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that's blowing down in the earth.

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We're in for some incredible visitation.

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That's the first thing you want to understand.

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And this breath of heaven is blowing down.

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It's almost like a new baptism is happening in us to ready us and prepare us for what's

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So the word itself means breath.

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It means voice.

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And so this whole entire decade that we're living in is about the voice that will be

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heard, whose voice will be heard, how will we listen to what we hear.

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And I don't mean just God's voice.

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We're watching political changes and we want to listen to the voice that brings forth the

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incredible strategy for our future.

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And so with that, you have to look at each year.

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Last year was about how to build your house for the future.

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This year is about in the midst of this whole season that is a war season.

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And let me explain that.

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You have God breathing from heaven, but you have the dragon here in the earth rising up

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and breathing fire, and we're caught right in the middle of that dynamic.

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That's why you're sensing all of the stress that's going on around you.

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And yet, in that midst of that, God says, just like He said in Revelation 12, in every

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new era, every new birth, hide yourself for three years so that the enemy can't rob your

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identity.

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And with that, I believe this third year is of utmost importance for us to establish our

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identity.

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That's why this book was so important on the King's Signet Ring.

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We have to establish our identity.

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But this year, in this war season, because pay is also linked with Passover, I wrote

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a book for you on the Passover prophecies.

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Every Passover during this 10-year era becomes very, very important for us to recognize what's

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happening around us.

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And so with that, also, it's a war-type season.

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We are moving past the enemy, and we have to cross over.

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We have to cross over in new ways.

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We have to cross over, and what this year is about is our divine recovery.

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When you look at the words that's linked with the year of Gamal, it's about a divine recovery.

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It doesn't matter.

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You can operate in our calendar system, but you're still going to be in three.

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So when you go to three, prophets have to understand symbol.

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You're going to see it's linked with supply.

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It's linked with recovery.

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And actually, Gamal was a camel that was coming.

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And therefore, this year is about opening up new supply lines.

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So we're in this war over the supply for our future.

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But you want to understand God's already giving you authority to multiply either what you

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have or to find new sources to multiply.

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And so this year, the warfare comes.

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How will we fill the house with the supply that will sustain us in years to come?

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So I want to encourage all of you, think multiplication.

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Think creativity.

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Don't let the world produce fear in you because that creates an unsound mind.

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You've got to keep thinking creatively so you keep expanding your thought processes

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and keep walking through the tumultuous times where you.

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Wow.

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I was taking notes as you were saying all that.

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And I think it's I'll get you a book eventually.

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Okay, good.

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I'm looking forward to that.

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But something that you said was about this divine recovery and that's supply recovery

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and then opening new supply lines.

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And if I'm thinking about the headlines right now and just we have issues with oil.

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I mean, there was a diesel shortage.

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There's in Europe, the pipeline from Russia giving natural gas to the rest of Europe has

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been shut down because of the war.

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Like all these supply lines are really under attack right now.

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And you're you're prophesying that God is opening up new supply lines.

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I'm prophesying that God is going to give us authority, put us in strategic places,

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give us access, and we are going to be able to say one word that can cause things to shift.

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Now that becomes very important.

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Think about during Joseph's time.

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There was seven years of fatness.

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There were seven years of drought.

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And what he did was develop a strategy of 12 centers for administration of supply.

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And once he did that, then they were able to sustain the drought ahead.

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See, God gives us supply so that we have the provision we need to advance his kingdom.

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See, that's Deuteronomy 18 says this, I'm going to give you the power to get well.

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That means I'm going to make you like a chameleon who can change if necessary to gain what you

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need to accomplish my covenant purposes.

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That is so key for us as we advance into this season ahead.

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And this year, I think the main war that we're in this year, it's a war over supply lines.

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And yet God has already given us the victory and we can see from a higher place.

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And that comes back to the perspective book.

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We can see from a higher place that the enemy does not have access to.

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And I think whenever you're studying military history, the front lines can only go as far

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as the supply lines can support.

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And so us as the body of Christ in the kingdom of God, as we are advancing the kingdom, as

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we are taking ground, we can't just have the missionaries and the evangelists out in the

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front.

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We need to be able to provide support to be able to help them sustain because our battle

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is not against flesh and blood, but of powers and principalities.

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And we need to support our front lines.

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And so if we get our supply lines in order, I think that we're going to be able to advance

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the kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent take it by force.

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And so I think as any of this resonating, I just feel like my spirit is rising up right

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now as we're talking here.

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And what the Lord showed me, our family had a provision.

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We had land when I was growing up and we went through a crisis and my dad died a premature

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death when he was 39 and there I was left with all of this mess.

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And so when God met me, he gave me a word out of Proverbs 3.

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He said, if you will give me your first fruits, I'll restore your health and I will cause

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your barns to be filled.

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But we had empty barns and I knew right then if I would understand the concept of giving

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my first and my best to the Lord, that he would always show me how to fill a barn up.

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Now that is so important for us as we enter this year ahead.

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If we're giving our best, God is going to unlock creative strength in us.

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Just like Daniel said, we'll be able to do exploits in days ahead.

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Exploits means you learn to take resources you've got and make them into something else.

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And then I was thinking about something when you were talking about that on the front line.

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We also have to know that there's some supply lines that need to be busted up so new supply

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lines can open up.

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Think of the Battle of the Bulge.

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One of the ways they won the war was they had to blow up some supply.

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And sometimes God is going to allow, and just like Elijah, he prophesied and then he got

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caught in the prophecy.

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Once that prophecy about the rain drying up and his supply at the beginning was by the

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brook Cherith and it dried up.

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Well, he had to then move on to his next supply, which was a widow that didn't seem to have

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any faith, but God used the understanding of her giving to him first so that she could

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multiply.

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Same way with us.

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If we will keep moving with the mentality that the Lord has developed within us, we

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will not be stopped.

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He will always have a remnant that can see from a higher place.

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We will always be able to move past what the enemy's blockade is trying to do in our life.

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And so I want to encourage everyone out there.

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You are and you have an identity in him, but you need to allow that identity to be seen

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in him.

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You need to wear it.

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You need to remember how he demonstrated it when he came as man and God in the earth realm

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and how he walked and demonstrated heaven to us.

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You need to do the same thing while you're out there and God's going to give many of

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you access into some places just like he did Joseph that could save us all in days ahead.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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And access just to save us all just like Joseph.

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And a lot of that comes to quipping ourselves and being ready by knowing our identity, knowing

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our significance of God's covenant with us and knowing who we are so that we can boldly

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stand to do what God's called us to do at those moments.

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And John, let me add one last thing on that book from perspective that we're working on

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how to see our future.

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You have the ability to go beyond.

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Now I want you to understand that.

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You have the ability.

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Remember when in the book of Revelation, God visited the seven key churches of a season

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of an era.

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And this is very much like what we're in right now.

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And then he told each church what they had done well.

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He told them, some of them, what they had not done well.

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And then he said, if you'll hear what the Spirit is saying, you can overcome.

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Now that's a word for all of us no matter where we've been or what we've been in.

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But then he told John this.

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He said, now John said, I heard a sound like a trumpet and the Lord said, come up here.

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And the rest of the book of Revelation from chapter 4 on is about the future.

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God will give us the ability to not be caught off guard and to see into the future so that

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we know how to walk through the tedious times ahead.

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Do not fear.

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There have always been tedious times.

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I remember the 60s and 70s that I know Pam and I lived through.

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There have always been tedious times.

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But God will give you a spirit of Revelation to see through those times.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Now before we wrap up here, I do want to ask you to pray in just a moment.

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But I know you said something earlier and I just want to ask about this.

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You said that God showed you what's happening through 2026.

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Now a lot of that you're going to be able to find in the book that I wrote for you,

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Passover Prophecies.

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But through the next four years really it determines, let's take, see I think we're

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warring for a nation that was instead of a nation that will be.

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And I believe these next four years we go into the warfare to create the nation that

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our children and our children's children are going to live in.

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And we need to understand that we have some good roots.

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We need to understand that not everything in this nation will be okay.

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But we also need to understand that we have the ability to speak in to the atmosphere

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and cause this nation to look the way it should.

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China will continue to gain strength.

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Russia and China you have to understand.

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But China is much more strategic in the way that they operate because they operate through

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the concept of mammon.

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Now I've got a dream in prophetic prophecies that will give you an understanding of how

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we're going to have to operate.

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And it had to do with me backing, learning how to back a barge in for supply and then

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the communication system that we would have to go through.

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I want you to know we will come into a place of victory, come into a place of overcoming,

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but it will be through maneuvering in and seeing in new ways.

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So I want to pray for you that just as Paul prayed for Ephesus, that the spirit of revelation

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and the spirit of wisdom rest upon you.

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I decree right now even in this month you'll have two dreams.

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You'll begin to operate in ways of understanding you've never operated in.

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Father, I loose this and I say we will not miss a step ahead.

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And we decree over this nation that you are setting a new order for its future.

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And Lord, I thank you for charisma and how it has stood to keep us moving by the spirit.

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Lord, I say walk in the spirit to all of us in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Wow.

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My spirit is really encouraged by our conversation here for what's to come, for what we're dealing

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with right now.

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And I took notes, but I'm going to be listening to this again because there was so much that

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was in there that I think we just need that heavenly perspective.

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We need God's ears and eyes to basically cover ours so that we can hear and see what He really

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wants us to.

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John, thank you so much for your time and give my love to everyone there.

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I will.

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I will.

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I want to encourage everybody to go to gloryofzion.org for more information about Chuck and his ministry.

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You can get connected with all the books there.

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And be on the lookout for perspective, how to see the future God has for you coming up.

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And right now, you can get the King's Signet Ring.

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And I just want to thank you so much, Chuck, for being here.

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John, great to see you.

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Great to be with you.

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This has been John Matarazzo for the Charisma News Podcast.

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God bless you.