Nov. 28, 2024

Everything You Need to Know About Deliverance - "How to Cast Out Demons" with @IsaiahSaldivar

Everything You Need to Know About Deliverance -
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This episode was released on November 19, 2024.

In this powerful interview, Isaiah Saldivar, author of the book "How to Cast Out Demons," shares his personal journey of deliverance and the biblical mandate for believers to engage in deliverance ministry. Saldivar discusses the prevalence of demonic activity in our culture, why the church has been hesitant to address it, and practical steps for conducting deliverance. He emphasizes the importance of being led by the Holy Spirit and using every available tool, including technology, to set people free. This interview provides a comprehensive and inspiring look at the critical role of deliverance in the life of the church and the lives of believers.

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Society has been normalizing demonization.

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The devil is hidden in plain sight.

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If the devil's not ashamed, if he's unapologetic,

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we need to be unashamed.

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We need to be unapologetic.

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The devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position.

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We need to be the army that God has called us to be

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and actually start doing deliverance ministry.

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The finger of God is what delivers you.

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Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life?

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Isaiah Saldivar, it's great to have you here on Charisma

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and this book, it's great to have you part

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of the Charisma author family, How to Cast Out Demons.

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And let's just, right on the front of this,

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you say this is everything that you need to know

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about deliverance.

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That's a big claim, Isaiah.

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Let's talk about that.

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This is everything you need to know.

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How did you come to know everything

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that people need to know?

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Yeah, so my journey with deliverance,

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and it is a bold claim.

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When I decided to come with that title,

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they said, one of the people I won't say who at Charisma said,

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you gotta make sure you add everything

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if you're gonna put everything you need to know.

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And I think when people get the book,

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they'll realize every question they've had on deliverance,

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we try to find an answer to.

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But for me, it started with,

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13 years ago, I was actually an atheist.

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I didn't believe in God.

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I was raised in church, but just did not believe.

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Just got hard-hearted, bitter, angry,

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everything you can think of.

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And then my little sister begged me

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for about six months to go to church.

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I told my girlfriend at the time,

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we're just gonna go one time, get her off our back.

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I'll never go again.

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And I had not been in three years up until this point.

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So I'm about to turn 20 years old.

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I graduated high school at 16.

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I graduated college at 19.

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I was like the golden child doing everything right

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in the world's eyes.

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Yet spiritually, I was completely dead.

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And so I go to this church

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and the pastor's preaching about world missions.

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And I was just not moved at all.

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And then during the altar, he's like,

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if you wanna come forward and give your life to Christ.

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I wasn't planning to go forward,

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but I literally felt something pulling on my shirt.

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I ended up going to that altar.

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And in so many words, I said, God, and I said a cuss word,

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I don't believe in you, but if you're real.

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And then I started saying,

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I'll give you everything,

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which I don't even know why I was saying this at the time,

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but inwardly, I so badly wanted there to be a God.

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I said, I'll move out of state.

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I'll break up my girlfriend.

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I'll leave my job

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because I was getting hired as a deputy sheriff.

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I'll leave my job in law enforcement.

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I'll travel wherever you want me to go.

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And I just started making all these bold claims

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that if God was real, I'd do this.

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In that very moment, I hear an audible voice.

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I'm not full of the Holy Spirit at the time.

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I was full of the devil.

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And I heard an audible voice from above saying,

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Isaiah, I don't want 99.9% of you.

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I want everything.

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Give me your life.

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And in that, I went into some type of out of body experience

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where I was just seeing all these bright lights

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and I was seeing myself preaching

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before millions of people.

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I was hearing the Lord talk to me

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about what he wanted me to do.

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I go from that to coming back to my body

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and literal dirt was coming out of my eyes.

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And at that time, I had not cried up until,

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for 10 years up until that point.

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I'm crying like a baby.

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So that's shocking me because I haven't cried in 10 years.

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I was just so hardhearted.

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I'm speaking in this language

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that I don't even know what I'm saying.

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I didn't know about tongues

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because the church I was raised in didn't talk about tongues.

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The only time I ever heard tongues in my entire life

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was at five years old.

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I heard my parents praying in tongues one time.

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So here I am now, I'm speaking this language.

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I'm crying like a baby.

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Dirt's coming out of my eyes, literal dirt.

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I'm having this crazy experience.

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The pastor gets on stage.

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There's 500 young people at the altar.

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It's a big mega church.

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And the pastor says, there's a young man in here right now

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and the Lord's removing the dirty scales from your eyes.

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And I'm just, made me cry even more.

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And I have this crazy experience,

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long story short, I don't sleep for three days.

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I don't eat for two weeks.

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I literally went from death to life.

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I went from cussing every other word

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to 13 years later, I haven't said a word.

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I went from drinking every day

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to 13 years later, I haven't drank.

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I went from pornography every day, sleeping around,

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everything you could think of,

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to being living a clean life ever since that moment.

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I put my faith in Jesus.

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I realized my life, I was a sinner.

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In that moment, I realized everything I was doing,

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the parties, the drinking, the girls was wrong.

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I felt filthy and I put my faith in the cross

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and was born again that moment.

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So that led into a revival broke out of my house.

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And this will all go into deliverance here,

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give me like one more Pentecostal minute.

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A revival broke out of my house.

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My family got saved, my friends got saved.

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Literally everyone in my family,

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aunts, cousins, uncles came.

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It felt like everybody I knew got saved in my living room.

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We were having three to 400 people come every week

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to my living room.

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We were seeing people get out of wheelchairs.

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I had an aunt that was born deaf get healed.

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I had a cousin that was deaf get healed.

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I saw people that never walked walk again.

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And that led to a lot of my friends I was partying with

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were coming to my living room for this revival meeting

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and they were manifesting demons.

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They would literally walk in my living room

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and start growling, screaming, blaspheming God,

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slithering on the ground.

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And I was sitting there going,

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I partied with that guy last week

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and now he's on my floor slithering like a snake.

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So I realized like, this is spiritual.

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There's a spiritual realm.

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My uncle who's in ministry for 30 years

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knew about all of this.

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And I said, could we do this stuff?

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Like the Bible shows deliverance.

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Jesus cast out demons everywhere.

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And I didn't have this religious mindset at the time.

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I just thought, hey, Jesus did it.

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His disciples did it.

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The book of Acts did it.

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We're disciples.

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Could we do this?

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And my uncle who had been in ministry for 30 years

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says that he had in that moment had to decide,

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am I gonna spiritually neuter them

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and tell them this isn't for today?

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Or am I gonna tell them absolutely everything

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in the Bible you can do?

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And my uncle said, miho was what, you know,

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we're Hispanic.

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He said miho, everything in the Bible you can do.

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You can cast out demons.

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You can lay hands on the sick.

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You can preach the gospel.

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And that turned into us literally doing deliverance

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almost every single day on one of our family,

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one of our friends.

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And that led me into deliverance.

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And then now 13 years later,

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finally have a lot of those early stories

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and early things in a book form

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when the Lord basically said it's time now

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to create a manual, make it easy for people,

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make it practical.

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I made a joke and said,

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if you're looking for a book where it's like,

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Jezebel, Leviathan, all of that, that is not this book.

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This is a practical guide

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where any person can pick it up

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and understand how to cast out demons.

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In the book, I talk about things like how people get demons,

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all of the stories of Jesus casting out demons,

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signs you have a demon,

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items you might have in your home that open you to demons.

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I give like a seven step method.

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I talk about stubborn demons, how to keep the demons out.

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So literally everything you need to know

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is all there in the book,

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but hopefully it could be a practical guide

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for people that wanna get involved

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in deliverance ministry.

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Cause I firmly believe scripture tells us

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every person is called to drive out demons.

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It's not just for the select few, John.

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It's for every single disciple of Jesus Christ.

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They shall cast out demons.

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So I'm super convicted about that.

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Yeah, I can tell you.

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And you're passionate about this.

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And I love the fact that you have been going online

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for several years now,

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and you're seeing deliverance happening digitally.

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And I just gotta say,

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society is talking about demons

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more than the church, it seems.

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I mean, just recently Tucker Carlson says

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that he was physically attacked by a demon

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and it left bloody claw marks on him,

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which then led him to really reading the Bible

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and searching and for like the last year and a half or so,

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which hearing that testimony was wild.

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And then there's celebrities that are openly claiming

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that they are operating in the demonic,

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but the church just isn't even talking about it.

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I mean, you do a lot of videos and reactions

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to things that are happening in our culture and our world.

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Let's talk about the culture,

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but also before we get into that,

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why isn't the church talking about demonic deliverance?

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So there's a saying that ignorance is bliss

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is only said by the ignorant.

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And I think when we say the word ignorant, it sounds mean.

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You're like, why would you call the church ignorant?

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The word ignorant is not a mean word.

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It means you just don't know.

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You just don't know something.

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And for a while I was frustrated

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at the state of the church and the pastors like,

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why Lord, why don't they do this?

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Why aren't they talking about?

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And the Lord's like, Isaiah, they're just ignorant.

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They just don't know.

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They've never learned about it.

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They don't believe it.

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And so I think that's where the church is at

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because we haven't seen it.

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We haven't been taught about it.

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We're ignorant to it.

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But the problem is you can't read the gospels

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and say that this isn't happening

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because it happened all throughout scripture.

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And what the Lord's been showing me even this week was,

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Isaiah, you're not pointing people to something new.

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There's nothing new.

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There's nothing we're pointing to.

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There's no new doctrine in the book.

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You're not gonna find like a new revelation.

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You're actually pointing people back.

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The Lord's been showing me to ancient paths,

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to what the Lord did.

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But this is not a new teaching.

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This is an ancient teaching that's been forgotten about,

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that's been lied about, that's been rejected,

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that's been put in the corner somewhere

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that people are afraid of.

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But the bottom line is now we're at a place

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where the devil is hidden in plain sight.

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And that means he's out in the open now.

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He's trying to hide, but he's in plain view

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where like every Grammy show, every celebrity event,

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every, we already know, if there's a Grammys,

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there's gonna be a bunch of demonic stuff happening

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on stage.

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a bunch of demonic stuff on stage.

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Any big platform the world has, it's always demonic.

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It's always dark now.

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And that wasn't the case 50 years ago.

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So I feel like the devil's really taking the gloves off.

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He's not ashamed anymore.

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So my thing is if the devil's not ashamed,

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if he's unapologetic, we need to be unashamed.

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We need to be unapologetic.

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He's not apologizing for demonizing our kids.

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So we shouldn't apologize for delivering our kids.

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He's not apologizing for wrecking our families

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with pornography and divorce and anger and the new age.

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We shouldn't apologize for setting the captives free,

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for seeing deliverance, for seeing miracles.

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So yeah, we're at a time where the world is actually open

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to talking about these things

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and there's a biblical way to do it.

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It's all through the scripture.

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We look at like Mark 1.39,

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Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting out demons.

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We look at Matthew chapter 10,

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he told the 12 disciples, go cast out demons.

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He didn't ask them, John.

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He didn't say, if you feel like it, if you want to,

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that was the commission.

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Then in Luke 10, he tells the 72, go cast out demons.

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And then in Acts chapter eight,

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we see Philip, the only named evangelist in scripture.

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What is he doing at his first crusade?

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He's casting out demons and healing the sick.

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So this is inevitable through scripture.

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You can't avoid this.

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As his disciples, I wanna make it very basic.

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If I'm his disciple, I'm his representative.

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2 Corinthians 5 says, we are Christ's ambassadors.

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So I look at Jesus and I go, okay, very simply,

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what did he do?

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He healed the sick, he cast out demons

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and he preached the gospel.

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Those are the three things he did.

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Like this is objective.

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Those are the three things he did.

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So as his ambassador, as his follower,

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as his disciple, John 14, 12, he says,

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you're gonna do the same works I've done and even greater

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because now I'm going to the father.

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Wouldn't it make sense, John, that we as his disciples

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are called to do the same works, not only that Jesus did,

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but the disciples did, the early church did.

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And that includes casting out demons.

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That includes healing the sick.

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That includes preaching the gospel.

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Every single person watching this right now

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has a friend or family and this is no debate to this.

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You have a friend or family that needs deliverance.

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And you can't just say, I'm gonna bring them to Isaiah,

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sell them our deliverance of it.

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I'm gonna bring them to my pastor.

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No, you're called to set the cap this free.

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Mark 16, the first sign of being a believer

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is these signs will follow.

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In my name, they'll drive out demons.

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Like imagine, John, that's the first telltale sign.

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You meet somebody on the street, you're like,

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oh, you're a believer?

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Yeah, oh, me too.

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Oh, so you cast out demons?

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Like that would be crazy.

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People would look at you like you're nuts.

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Yet in the Bible, in the book of Mark,

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it says that'll be the first sign of a believer

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is they will cast out demons.

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But I think it's essential that we do that.

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The world deserves it.

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The world needs it.

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The church needs it.

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Our friends and family need it.

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We really need compassion.

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We need to be heartbroken over the state of society.

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I refuse to believe that we are the most depressed

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generation in existence.

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I refuse to stand around

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while we're the most suicidal generation ever.

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The devil is pouring out a spirit.

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That's true.

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Just turn on the news, turn on the television.

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But the Lord is also pouring out his spirit,

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which is greater, which is more powerful,

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which has more authority.

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And as his believers, we have the same spirit

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that raised Christ living in us

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and we're called to do this work.

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So I believe it's needed now.

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I think this whole book coming out is timely.

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We're in this era, this generation that's hungry

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for the spiritual realm.

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And we're really giving them what they want.

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And that is, tell me what Jesus did.

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Tell me about Jesus.

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And this is something Jesus did everywhere.

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You know, I'm really loving the fact that, you know,

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Charisma, we've published a number of people's, you know,

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part of the Demon Slayers group, you know,

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with you and Alexander Pagani and Mike Signorelli

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and Vlad Savchuk and, you know, depending on, you know,

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who else might be part of that group.

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But you guys are all friends.

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You're all in ministry together in some way, shape or form.

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Greg Locke.

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And we love just seeing what the Holy Spirit is doing

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at this time in history.

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There is a renewed focus on deliverance,

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but that still brings me back to this question

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of why has the church not paid attention to this?

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Why has the church kind of let this go to the side?

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And it's almost like, those are the strange people

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that do deliverance over there.

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Like, those are the weirdos.

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You know, let's take this out of the main service

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into that back room there

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and get those people help that way.

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Why is this, like, let's talk about this a little bit

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because we are missing something

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that God tells us that we're supposed to do.

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Yeah, it's the pastor's job.

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That's a straight up truth.

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The pastor leads the church.

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The pastor's the one, whatever his vision is,

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that's the direction of the church.

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If we look at the modern church and say,

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why is deliverance not happening?

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We have to point it to the leaders.

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The leader, we have to point to the leaders.

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Like, if there's a bad policy in the country,

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we don't blame the citizens

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because we have no power over that.

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We blame the leaders that the citizens elected

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and go, why are the leaders not doing their job?

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So I look at the pastors and say, it's really their job.

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I've told pastors before,

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how do you preach 52 weeks out of the year

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and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere?

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I mean, think about that.

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You gave 52 sermons and you somehow skipped over

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what Jesus did in every single city he went to

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and what the disciples did.

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And so it's necessary as leaders,

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we're trained and equipped to cast out demons.

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It starts with the leadership and then leads into people.

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Okay, so now we're in a place where,

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you just said it, John,

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we're in a deliverance revival right now.

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And this is because for the first time in history,

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social media is a thing, right?

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Like 10 years ago, there was no short form content.

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10 years ago, going viral didn't really exist.

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Well, here now you have a church over here that rejects it,

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refused to talk about it.

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Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online.

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They're not waiting for permission from a local church,

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which I love the local church.

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I pastored for a decade.

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I'm a part of a local church.

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Mike, Vlad and Pagani are all senior pastors

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of local churches.

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So I love the local church.

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But here's what you have now,

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online taking off, going viral.

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And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative.

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They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church.

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So because our videos are getting

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millions and millions of views,

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the first deliverance video I ever posted on TikTok

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got 15 million views.

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So you can't now avoid the deliverance now.

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Cause like everybody at my church is asking

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why we don't do it.

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Everybody at my church is asking,

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why is it happening online?

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They're giving verses.

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It's in the Bible.

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It's theologically sound.

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The pastors have no choice now, but to embrace it.

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Just three weeks ago, we were in the Now Arena in Chicago.

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10,000 people gathered.

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And at the very end of the day,

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we had mass deliverance with 10,000 people,

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packed out arena.

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So it's like, you can't ignore anymore

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what the Lord is doing.

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And it all points back to the cross.

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It all points back to Jesus.

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Isaiah has no power.

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Mike has no power.

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Vlad, Pagani, none of us have power or authority.

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All we're doing is pointing people back to Jesus

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and saying it's in his name that we cast our demons.

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It's in his name that there's power and authority.

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And so now I could tell you pastors

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that would never invite me, never do deliverance,

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never want anything to do with it,

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are now starting to do deliverance,

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are now starting to get deliverance.

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I just talked to a guy today who said,

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my pastors of a large known mega church,

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he literally just told me today, I won't say who,

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my pastors just went through deliverance.

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So now it's like, even these big, big, big churches,

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our pastors are going through deliverance.

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They're starting to teach it.

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They're bringing people in.

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I've been in some large churches that five years ago,

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I would have laughed if you said,

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they're gonna bring you in to teach on deliverance.

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I would have been like, they would never invite me.

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And now they're inviting me

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because they're seeing not only is it working,

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the world needs it and the church is hungry for it.

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But now I think we're seeing that ignorance break.

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And of course, the books, the videos online,

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I have 2,200 videos on my channel.

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So like we're teaching people, we're training people,

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we're going through the Bible

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and it's waking people up to this truth of what Jesus did.

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Yeah, and thank you for your YouTube channel.

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I love seeing all the stuff that you're doing.

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I mean, you're teaching about deliverance.

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You're teaching about other things beyond that as well,

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but you're commenting about what is happening

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in our culture in so many of the viral videos.

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One of the things I wanna talk to you about

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is just this whole concept of the legal deliver,

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or the legal possession, I guess.

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Because if somebody is going to be demonically possessed

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or oppressed, they normally had some sort of a,

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they did something that legally gave the devil permission

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to do what he's doing, right?

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Yeah.

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And so in society though,

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we're seeing this manifest in the public.

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So what have we done as a society

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or what are we allowing as a society

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that keeps allowing these Super Bowl halftime shows

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or the Grammys or all of these things

518
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,800
that are openly demonic expressions,

519
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,280
what are we doing or not doing that is actually giving

520
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440
the devil legal right to do these things?

521
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,360
Yeah, so all of these things are to desensitize us, right?

522
00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:28,840
Are to make the demonic innocent, no big deal.

523
00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,580
So like, just for an example,

524
00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:33,740
the biggest artist right now in the world is Taylor Swift.

525
00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:34,920
And all of these young people love her,

526
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,000
all of these people, she's like had a billion dollar tour.

527
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,320
She's now like the highest grossing.

528
00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,360
So she's broken every record for an artist.

529
00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,440
She goes on Twitter and says,

530
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,300
I'm the witchest witch there is.

531
00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,920
I'm the witchiest of witches.

532
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,760
So she's openly now saying she's involved

533
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,800
in doing new age witchcraft.

534
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880
Of course, she calls herself a Christian, which is bizarre,

535
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200
but all of her songs talk about karma

536
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200
and these new age Hindu practices and witchcraft and magic.

537
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,880
She's weaving them in to make it normal.

538
00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,320
Make it normal now that witchcraft

539
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,820
is no longer abomination the way the Bible teaches.

540
00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:02,760
It's no longer wrong.

541
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,360
So society has been normalizing demonization,

542
00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,800
making all of these things no big deal.

543
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040
It's no big deal to go get your palms read.

544
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,120
McDonald's hands out horoscopes now, right?

545
00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:13,960
They had like this little thing

546
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,920
where they were handing out horoscopes with their food.

547
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800
They're making all of these demonic satanic things normal,

548
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,840
desensitizing the masses

549
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,200
so that it's no big deal to worship the devil.

550
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,860
It's no big deal to plead your allegiance to him.

551
00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:29,920
And as believers, as Christians, we have to push back.

552
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,720
We have to call these things out.

553
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760
Jesus said this, they're gonna hate you,

554
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,060
but know that they hated me first.

555
00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:39,360
So then we ask ourselves, why did they hate Jesus?

556
00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,640
And he tells us, he said, they hated me

557
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560
because I testified that their works were evil.

558
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,260
Jesus was speaking out against the demonic culture,

559
00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,160
the darkness happening in society.

560
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,680
And they're not just talking about it,

561
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,800
but what goes down to what the book's all about is

562
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840
he was actually doing something about it.

563
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,920
So he wasn't just meeting saying, the devil's bad,

564
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,640
the culture's bad, everyone's demonic.

565
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,620
He was like, yeah, we're gonna call it out,

566
00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:02,820
but we're also gonna drive out demons.

567
00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:05,120
So we have to definitely speak out against these things

568
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,280
and reject these demonic things happening in society.

569
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,260
But we also have to do something about it.

570
00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:13,280
And that doing something about it is driving out demons

571
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,960
from our friends and family and the people around us

572
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,800
that need help.

573
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,620
So it's not enough just for us to be vocal and make noise.

574
00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:22,040
We need to be the army that God has called us to be

575
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,160
and actually start doing deliverance ministry.

576
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840
And people watching this are saying, well, how do I do it?

577
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,460
Exactly why we're putting out these books,

578
00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,480
exactly why we're giving you training manuals.

579
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,540
In the book, I have a seven step simple method.

580
00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,680
We've made it as simple as possible, theologically sound,

581
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,380
to get people to actually do the work

582
00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,380
we're telling them about.

583
00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:40,400
Because there's nothing more annoying

584
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560
than somebody saying, do something,

585
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,160
but never telling you how to do it.

586
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560
Or somebody saying, fix this,

587
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,080
but never telling you how to fix it.

588
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720
And that's a frustrating place the church is in

589
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,400
because we preach about the darkness,

590
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,760
we talk about the darkness.

591
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,380
Every Sunday we're like, they're doing this,

592
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,360
they're doing that.

593
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,120
But we're very few places are actually teaching people

594
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,420
how to do something about it.

595
00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:01,240
Deliverance is a direct confrontation

596
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,320
with the enemy's kingdom.

597
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,720
It's a power encounter.

598
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,080
It's an authority encounter.

599
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,940
Jesus said, if I cast the demons by the Spirit of God,

600
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:10,520
the finger of God, then you know the kingdom has come.

601
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,920
So the arrival of God's kingdom is deliverance.

602
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,400
And deliverance is the arrival of God's kingdom.

603
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,420
Some people get freaked out and I tell people,

604
00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:18,960
the finger of God is what delivers you.

605
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,380
Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life?

606
00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:23,240
Don't you want the finger of God in your life?

607
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,560
It's nothing to be afraid of.

608
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,560
It's beautiful.

609
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,400
It's freedom.

610
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,460
It's the Lord bringing you out of the cage

611
00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:31,000
that you're in in bondage and setting you free.

612
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,720
And so we desperately need it.

613
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,200
We have to be vocal about it.

614
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,440
And we have to stop tolerating

615
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,920
and allowing these things in our life.

616
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080
I'll say this and then turn it back over to you.

617
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,240
The number one open door to the devil in this generation,

618
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,440
the number one thing that opens people up to demons

619
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,360
that every person has right now.

620
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,840
Every person that's watching has a new device

621
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200
that I believe is the greatest open door

622
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,240
to the devil in existence.

623
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,000
And it's right here sitting on my desk.

624
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,960
It's a cell phone.

625
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240
This right here is an open door.

626
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040
You know this, I know this.

627
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,800
The every type of dark thing online.

628
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,240
It's so accessible.

629
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,520
It's so easy.

630
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480
50 years ago, if guys wanted to get involved

631
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,920
in sexual sin, they had to go to a store.

632
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,800
They had to be secretive.

633
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,640
They have to hide.

634
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040
They have to get a magazine, hide it.

635
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,100
No more.

636
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,760
Now we have people, young people coming to our meetings

637
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,200
that are seven, eight years old saying,

638
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240
I'm watching internet pornography on my iPad.

639
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,080
I'm addicted.

640
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,360
I had a seven year old.

641
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,680
Parents came to me and said,

642
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,760
our son's addicted to pornography.

643
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,600
And we started praying for him.

644
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,160
He told me, I wake up every morning

645
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360
before my family goes to work and I get on the iPad

646
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,000
and I watch hours of pornography every morning.

647
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480
This kid's like seven years old.

648
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,000
And that is the access.

649
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,760
These young kids have to darkness,

650
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,280
to demonic stuff, to opening themselves up to demons.

651
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
And it's no wonder why we are considered

652
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,860
the highest depression rate, the highest suicide rate,

653
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:49,680
the highest rate of perversion,

654
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320
the highest rate of pornography.

655
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,200
It's because the access is so easy.

656
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,740
And for the first time in history,

657
00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:57,480
you can access all types of demonic things from your phone,

658
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,180
which again, 20 years ago,

659
00:21:59,180 --> 00:22:00,720
we didn't even have smartphones like this

660
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,900
where everybody had one, we were accessible.

661
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,880
So now that the devil's made himself extremely accessible,

662
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,300
watch this, we have now made ourselves

663
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,800
as the kingdom accessible.

664
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,100
Now we're online.

665
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:14,560
Tomorrow night, this is gonna shock some people.

666
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,300
Tomorrow night, I will be live on Zoom,

667
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:19,740
casting demons out of people.

668
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:22,040
I'm not just gonna let the devil use the technology.

669
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280
We're gonna use the technology God has given us.

670
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,840
If I could pray for somebody on the phone,

671
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,080
I can pray for them over Zoom.

672
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560
And we're gonna see people get demons cast out of them

673
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,520
on a Zoom call.

674
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840
So we're gonna use every tool we have,

675
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,640
these tools are not just for the enemy.

676
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720
We're gonna use them for the kingdom of God.

677
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,100
Whatever the devil's using these vehicles,

678
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,840
God's also using to set people free.

679
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,440
And so it's a beautiful time

680
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,380
because it's a time of revivals, time of deliverance.

681
00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:46,160
I know it might sound like, oh, this is all bad and dark.

682
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,920
No, it's a great time to be alive.

683
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,440
The Lord is pouring out of spirit

684
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,260
and we can utilize all these vehicles

685
00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,040
to see the captive set free.

686
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800
I love that you're so joyful about this

687
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,360
because these are dark times,

688
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,120
but we are bringing the light of Christ.

689
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,400
We're called to be salt and light.

690
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,640
And I love that you are bringing joy to this.

691
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,760
I mean, there's a passion and then there's a joy.

692
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,460
Earlier you said that we need to cast out

693
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:15,680
and bring deliverance to our friends and family.

694
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480
My question for you about this is,

695
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,920
okay, so how do we recognize

696
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600
that this is actually a demonic thing in them?

697
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280
And then how do you get them to actually accept

698
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,320
that they need to be delivered?

699
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,000
Because do you just go around

700
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480
and sneak attack deliverance people?

701
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240
How do you do that?

702
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Yeah, so if you're having friends and family

703
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,440
that are dealing with something,

704
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,880
there's a very loving way to say,

705
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880
hey, there's a spiritual realm.

706
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,720
It's super simple.

707
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,720
There's a spiritual realm.

708
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000
And the Bible talks about

709
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720
how these are persons without bodies.

710
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,040
These spirits are personalities that live inside of us.

711
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,600
Matthew 12, Jesus said, demons, all us their home.

712
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320
And you just tell your friend or family,

713
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,920
say they're dealing with suicidal thoughts.

714
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Like, hey, that's not normal.

715
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,680
God doesn't want that for you.

716
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,480
That's something in you telling you to do something

717
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,320
that you don't wanna do.

718
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,800
And they know they don't wanna do it.

719
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480
Many people tell you, I don't wanna take my life.

720
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,320
I don't wanna cut my arm,

721
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360
but there's an overwhelming desire for me to do it.

722
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,480
And you let them know and God will fill your mouth

723
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,520
and give you the words.

724
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Like, I can pray for you and God can set you free.

725
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,360
And this is very important.

726
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,200
Inviting them over to your house, right?

727
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Making them feel comfortable

728
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,920
and just starting to pray for them.

729
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920
You don't have to say,

730
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,200
oh, we're gonna do an exorcism.

731
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,240
We're gonna get oil.

732
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320
We're gonna turn all the lights off and light candles.

733
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,280
You don't have to do all that.

734
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,240
You invite them over, get them in a safe place

735
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,680
and say, I just wanna pray for you.

736
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440
And then when you pray for them,

737
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,880
and we talk about this in the book,

738
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,280
you don't just go, Lord, thank you for them.

739
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,520
Help them Lord, amen.

740
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,760
That's how a lot of people pray

741
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,600
and that's great for a certain place,

742
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,120
but that's not great if somebody has a demon

743
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,400
and you're trying to get the demon out.

744
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640
It's very important that you confront the demon.

745
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,920
And this is something most people have never done.

746
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,680
When we do deliverance on people, John,

747
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,240
they always say, how did I have this my entire life?

748
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,920
And when they say this, they mean the demon.

749
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680
And I didn't even know.

750
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520
I never knew I had a demon until now.

751
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,200
And I always ask them the same question, John, I say,

752
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040
have you ever had anybody pray for you

753
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,480
and confront the demon?

754
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720
And every single time they say, no,

755
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680
I've been in church for 30 years, John.

756
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200
I've never had anybody confront a demon in me.

757
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600
I've never had anybody pray deliverance over me.

758
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
So the devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position.

759
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,920
He's not gonna voluntarily say, here I am, kick me out.

760
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,000
He's very crafty.

761
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,360
He hides using camouflage.

762
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,600
I talk about that as well in the book.

763
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440
That's his favorite tool is camouflage.

764
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,880
He hides in the environment.

765
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480
So as believers, we have to confront the demon.

766
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,120
So for example, let's just be super practical, John.

767
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,640
I have a family member saying,

768
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,080
I'm dealing with these suicidal thoughts.

769
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Will you pray for me?

770
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Absolutely.

771
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Thursday night, come over the house.

772
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,520
I wanna pray with you.

773
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,120
They come over the house Thursday night.

774
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,920
Me and my wife get together with, let's say, my cousin,

775
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080
and she comes over, put on some worship music.

776
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,120
Hey, we're gonna talk with you.

777
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:48,940
We love you.

778
00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:49,780
We appreciate you.

779
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:51,080
Show them a few scriptures.

780
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,240
Hey, this is what the Bible teaches.

781
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,880
We know God can set you free.

782
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,000
We don't want you to deal with this.

783
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560
We know God doesn't want you to deal with this.

784
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,680
We're gonna pray for you.

785
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,840
And then we're gonna talk to her

786
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,280
about these simple steps we give,

787
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,120
like renouncing things and unforgiveness.

788
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,120
Hey, is there any unforgiveness in your life?

789
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120
Let's deal with these things.

790
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:04,960
Let us pray.

791
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,120
And then we're gonna start praying.

792
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,160
And I'm gonna say, literally, I'm gonna say,

793
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
I command any spirit of suicide.

794
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,660
I call you out now.

795
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,720
You must leave now in Jesus' name.

796
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,760
You have no power.

797
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,040
I'm gonna actually start going to war

798
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,480
on behalf of my family.

799
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600
And I'm gonna start calling that thing out of her.

800
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,520
And likely, she's gonna start feeling that thing

801
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520
wanting to come up.

802
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680
She's gonna start maybe growling or coughing

803
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,520
or feeling anger.

804
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,940
Her heart will start racing.

805
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,500
That demon will start coming up to the surface

806
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,240
because with the authority Jesus has given me,

807
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,900
I'm evicting it from its home.

808
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,340
Again, Matthew 12 says, demons call us their home.

809
00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:38,960
Very easy, very practical.

810
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600
I'm commanding that thing to leave her.

811
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,640
And I'm not doing it like one time for one minute.

812
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
I'm gonna keep confronting and keep calling that thing out

813
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800
until that thing comes out of her.

814
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,460
And that is where we've missed it.

815
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:50,300
We don't go into that.

816
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,320
We just, Lord, have your way.

817
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200
We pray at a distance, but Jesus actually called

818
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320
the disciples to go cast out demons.

819
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800
And then they came back and Luke 10 and said,

820
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,720
even the demons obey us in your name.

821
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Like they were shocked.

822
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,440
They were like, this stuff works.

823
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840
And I'm telling you guys, if you start doing this

824
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,160
and praying for friends and family

825
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920
like the way we show in the book, it actually works.

826
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400
When you start confronting the demon in the name of Jesus,

827
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
it's not fancy, it's not complicated.

828
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840
You'll start seeing the demons will respond

829
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,220
and you, the listeners right now,

830
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:23,200
will be like those disciples in Luke 10.

831
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200
And they'll be like, wow, we thought Isaiah was nuts,

832
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600
but this stuff actually works.

833
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,600
The demons obey us.

834
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,720
And I'll tell you why it works

835
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,120
because the Bible says it works.

836
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,880
The Bible has given us power and authority.

837
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,680
And if you get this book, you're gonna realize

838
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,120
there's scripture throughout the entire book.

839
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,640
In fact, the second chapter is all scripture.

840
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,960
It's all the ministry of Jesus

841
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,160
and him casting out demons everywhere he went.

842
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440
And some people will be shocked going like,

843
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,340
how did I live my whole life

844
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,480
and not even realize how real this was?

845
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480
It's real, it's happening right now.

846
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320
And we're called as believers to do it.

847
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,280
And I think this book is gonna help people

848
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080
to get the tools they need to start doing

849
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,040
what Jesus has called us all to do.

850
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Yeah, you mentioned putting on worship music

851
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,520
whenever you're praying for somebody.

852
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Is there any specific songs or specific type of music,

853
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960
like specific style of worship music

854
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,520
that people should use in this to set an atmosphere?

855
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600
How important is the atmosphere for you in this?

856
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Yeah, I think what's important

857
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,680
is making sure the person's comfortable

858
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,360
and making sure that they feel loved

859
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,800
and they feel the compassion.

860
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,160
You definitely wanna make an atmosphere

861
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,640
where they're comfortable to share,

862
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
they're comfortable to maybe even manifest a demon

863
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,920
because a lot of times the demons

864
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,120
are speaking out of the person

865
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,960
and it could be a very uncomfortable thing.

866
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440
But making the person comfortable is super crucial.

867
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200
And it's like, you don't wanna go into a room

868
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
and have the lights blaring on them, no music on,

869
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
super awkward, very uncomfortable.

870
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880
You wanna set an atmosphere where they're comfortable

871
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960
to get set free.

872
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
And for me it's like, okay, this is gonna be funny,

873
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880
but there's a song, super old school.

874
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600
When I say old school, I'm talking like 10 years ago

875
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
because that's for me old school, I'm young, right?

876
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040
But there's a song called Freedom Reigns

877
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880
by a band named Jesus Culture.

878
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,000
And it's an old school song,

879
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,600
it just says freedom reigns in this place.

880
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,840
And it's all about freedom.

881
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320
That's like my go-to, I play that at every deliverance,

882
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
I put it on repeat and it just basically says like,

883
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,280
freedom reigns in this place.

884
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160
And I love that song and I know like demons hate that song

885
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480
because it's all about the freedom Christ has given us.

886
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
So I would say, I like to put on music that's, you know,

887
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280
chill, not super loud, praise, fast pace,

888
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
but just real low key worship music

889
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,040
that's about the freedom Christ has set the atmosphere,

890
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,960
invite the Holy Spirit into the room.

891
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Holy Spirit, we invite you,

892
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,600
I want you to lead this deliverance.

893
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600
I want you to be the one that runs the deliverance.

894
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
And throughout the whole process, John,

895
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280
we're letting the Holy Spirit lead.

896
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,280
We're being open, our ears are attentive to what he's saying,

897
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960
whatever direction he wants to go.

898
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Yes, we give a seven step framework, but in the book,

899
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800
before I even give the seven steps, I say,

900
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise, go with him.

901
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120
They don't go with me if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise.

902
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600
This is just a guide, it's not ritualistic.

903
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160
It's not like the way the Catholic church does exorcism

904
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,840
where they read specific prayers.

905
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,320
This is not ritualistic.

906
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,840
This is led by the Holy Spirit

907
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680
taking our authority Christ has given us.

908
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640
So it's definitely not like,

909
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120
if you don't go through all seven steps,

910
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,960
it's not gonna work.

911
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
No, this is about being led by the Spirit.

912
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,320
These steps are just gonna help you

913
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,640
to go through deliverance process

914
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,280
when you stall out, when you get stuck.

915
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920
But at the end of the day, this is a work of the Spirit.

916
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,320
This is not a work of Isaiah.

917
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
It's not a work of Alexander Pagani.

918
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680
This is a work of the Holy Spirit.

919
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,000
It's his ministry.

920
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
He's the one doing the heavy lifting.

921
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,880
We're just his vessels.

922
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360
We're just the ones carrying him.

923
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,680
He's the one that's gonna do the work.

924
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
And so be led by the Spirit, put on some worship music,

925
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,240
spend some time in prayer.

926
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160
It might even help as the deliverance minister

927
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,720
is fast one or two days.

928
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
If it's your first deliverance, fast for a day,

929
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,520
fast for two days.

930
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
I like to fast until the deliverance is over.

931
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800
So if I'm doing a deliverance at six o'clock,

932
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,160
I'll fast all day.

933
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,320
The deliverance, say it's at six,

934
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,800
goes to like, say seven or eight.

935
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640
And then after eight, nine o'clock, then hey,

936
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,840
I'll eat after the deliverance.

937
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,520
But I like to fast any days that I do deliverance.

938
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,680
I'm fasting that day.

939
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Even days I preach, I fast.

940
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,160
I wanna be ready.

941
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,680
I wanna be in the right mindset.

942
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560
I wanna have every hindrance blocked.

943
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,240
I don't even wanna be thinking about food.

944
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,800
I wanna have every hindrance out of the way

945
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,460
and just be locked in for what the Lord wants to do.

946
00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:08,760
So yeah, those are just simple steps.

947
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,560
And again, of course, the book's 200 pages.

948
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,380
So I'm just giving you guys in a nutshell.

949
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:14,840
The book goes into detail what you should wear,

950
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,700
how you should act,

951
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,280
how many people should be in the deliverance.

952
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,720
When I say everything you need to know,

953
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120
like every little detail is gonna be there

954
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,160
to try to help you guys be real practical about it

955
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
so you can start doing this ministry.

956
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680
Yeah, you are backing up that claim in a strong way

957
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
and kudos to you for that.

958
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,000
And so I wanna encourage everybody

959
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000
to go get How to Cast Out Demons by Isaiah Saldivar.

960
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080
And but before we wrap up here,

961
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840
I know you said so perfectly

962
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440
that we need to be led by the Holy Spirit.

963
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Isaiah, would you just pray for the people

964
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,040
that have watched this far

965
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,840
that they would be led by the Holy Spirit,

966
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960
that they would be even filled by the Holy Spirit

967
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,800
through this video,

968
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
and that they might even be delivered through this video

969
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,440
if they need to do that.

970
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,120
Absolutely, Father, we thank you, Lord,

971
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,360
for what you're doing in this hour.

972
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,720
God, I thank you that those listening,

973
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120
that you've called them to cast out demons.

974
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
I thank you, Lord, that they hear your voice,

975
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,800
that they know you,

976
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,280
and they are filled with your power.

977
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480
God, we pray right now for those that might not be.

978
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Lord, we pray you would fill them with your Holy Spirit

979
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,880
as your word says, that you give good gifts.

980
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,400
And all we have to do according to your word

981
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,960
is ask for the Holy Spirit.

982
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,800
For those listening,

983
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,160
just ask him for his Holy Spirit right now.

984
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,160
He'll give it to you.

985
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Father, we ask that you would just pour out right now

986
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,360
on this generation, God.

987
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Pour out on the listeners.

988
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Lord, I pray that you would train them,

989
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,640
that you would equip them.

990
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,920
God, whether they get the book or not,

991
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,760
it doesn't matter, Lord,

992
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,320
that you've called them to do this.

993
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720
And I pray, Holy Spirit, that you would be their guide.

994
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
I pray, Lord, that you would be their GPS

995
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,200
while they're doing deliverance.

996
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Lord, empower them by your Spirit.

997
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Anoint them by your Spirit, God.

998
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,040
I pray for some of those that are demonized,

999
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,880
even watching.

1000
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Lord, that you would deliver them right now.

1001
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440
We just command every unclean spirit

1002
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,280
to leave them now in Jesus' name.

1003
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Satan, you have no power, you have no authority,

1004
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
and you have no legal rights to our life.

1005
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
We pray that they would leave now in Jesus' name.

1006
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Every demon has to go.

1007
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Satan, you have no authority.

1008
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,520
We cancel your plans.

1009
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,040
We cancel your strategies.

1010
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,280
And Father, I just pray right now,

1011
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080
Lord, have your way.

1012
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,560
God, use them to cast out demons.

1013
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Bring people around them that need deliverance.

1014
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Open the doors, God.

1015
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Set up divine appointments.

1016
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760
I pray, God, that all fear would leave,

1017
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200
that your word says that you've not given us

1018
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440
a spirit of fear, but power, love, and a sound mind.

1019
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,360
That we rebuke the spirit of fear,

1020
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160
and we just pray for a spirit of power, love,

1021
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
and a sound mind just to flow right now for every listener.

1022
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,480
God, anoint them by your Spirit.

1023
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,120
We bless them now in Jesus' name, we pray, amen.

1024
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Amen and amen.

1025
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Isaias Aldivar, thank you so much

1026
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360
for taking the time to be with us today

1027
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,960
and to talk about how to cast out demons.

1028
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Everything you need to know about deliverance.

1029
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240
I'm looking forward to our next time together.

1030
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Thank you, brother.

1031
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,900
Thanks so much, John, for having me on.

1032
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,320
I appreciate you and love everybody at Charisma.

1033
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960
I'm part of the family now, so we love the Charisma family.

1034
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Guys, go get the book.

1035
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Amazon's an easy place to get it.

1036
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080
You can get it on Barnes and Noble's website as well.

1037
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Get the book.

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I definitely believe it's gonna help you

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do this ministry God's called us to do.