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Society has been normalizing demonization.
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The devil is hidden in plain sight.
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If the devil's not ashamed, if he's unapologetic,
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we need to be unashamed.
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We need to be unapologetic.
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The devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position.
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We need to be the army that God has called us to be
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and actually start doing deliverance ministry.
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The finger of God is what delivers you.
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Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life?
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Isaiah Saldivar, it's great to have you here on Charisma
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and this book, it's great to have you part
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of the Charisma author family, How to Cast Out Demons.
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And let's just, right on the front of this,
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you say this is everything that you need to know
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about deliverance.
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That's a big claim, Isaiah.
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Let's talk about that.
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This is everything you need to know.
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How did you come to know everything
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that people need to know?
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Yeah, so my journey with deliverance,
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and it is a bold claim.
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When I decided to come with that title,
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they said, one of the people I won't say who at Charisma said,
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you gotta make sure you add everything
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if you're gonna put everything you need to know.
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And I think when people get the book,
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they'll realize every question they've had on deliverance,
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we try to find an answer to.
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But for me, it started with,
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13 years ago, I was actually an atheist.
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I didn't believe in God.
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I was raised in church, but just did not believe.
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Just got hard-hearted, bitter, angry,
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everything you can think of.
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And then my little sister begged me
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for about six months to go to church.
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I told my girlfriend at the time,
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we're just gonna go one time, get her off our back.
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I'll never go again.
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And I had not been in three years up until this point.
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So I'm about to turn 20 years old.
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I graduated high school at 16.
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I graduated college at 19.
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I was like the golden child doing everything right
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in the world's eyes.
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Yet spiritually, I was completely dead.
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And so I go to this church
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and the pastor's preaching about world missions.
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And I was just not moved at all.
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And then during the altar, he's like,
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if you wanna come forward and give your life to Christ.
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I wasn't planning to go forward,
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but I literally felt something pulling on my shirt.
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I ended up going to that altar.
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And in so many words, I said, God, and I said a cuss word,
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I don't believe in you, but if you're real.
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And then I started saying,
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I'll give you everything,
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which I don't even know why I was saying this at the time,
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but inwardly, I so badly wanted there to be a God.
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I said, I'll move out of state.
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I'll break up my girlfriend.
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I'll leave my job
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because I was getting hired as a deputy sheriff.
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I'll leave my job in law enforcement.
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I'll travel wherever you want me to go.
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And I just started making all these bold claims
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that if God was real, I'd do this.
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In that very moment, I hear an audible voice.
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I'm not full of the Holy Spirit at the time.
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I was full of the devil.
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And I heard an audible voice from above saying,
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Isaiah, I don't want 99.9% of you.
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I want everything.
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Give me your life.
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And in that, I went into some type of out of body experience
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where I was just seeing all these bright lights
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and I was seeing myself preaching
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before millions of people.
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I was hearing the Lord talk to me
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about what he wanted me to do.
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I go from that to coming back to my body
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and literal dirt was coming out of my eyes.
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And at that time, I had not cried up until,
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for 10 years up until that point.
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I'm crying like a baby.
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So that's shocking me because I haven't cried in 10 years.
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I was just so hardhearted.
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I'm speaking in this language
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that I don't even know what I'm saying.
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I didn't know about tongues
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because the church I was raised in didn't talk about tongues.
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The only time I ever heard tongues in my entire life
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was at five years old.
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I heard my parents praying in tongues one time.
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So here I am now, I'm speaking this language.
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I'm crying like a baby.
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Dirt's coming out of my eyes, literal dirt.
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I'm having this crazy experience.
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The pastor gets on stage.
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There's 500 young people at the altar.
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It's a big mega church.
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And the pastor says, there's a young man in here right now
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and the Lord's removing the dirty scales from your eyes.
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And I'm just, made me cry even more.
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And I have this crazy experience,
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long story short, I don't sleep for three days.
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I don't eat for two weeks.
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I literally went from death to life.
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I went from cussing every other word
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to 13 years later, I haven't said a word.
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I went from drinking every day
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to 13 years later, I haven't drank.
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I went from pornography every day, sleeping around,
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everything you could think of,
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to being living a clean life ever since that moment.
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I put my faith in Jesus.
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I realized my life, I was a sinner.
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In that moment, I realized everything I was doing,
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the parties, the drinking, the girls was wrong.
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I felt filthy and I put my faith in the cross
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and was born again that moment.
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So that led into a revival broke out of my house.
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And this will all go into deliverance here,
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give me like one more Pentecostal minute.
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A revival broke out of my house.
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My family got saved, my friends got saved.
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Literally everyone in my family,
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aunts, cousins, uncles came.
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It felt like everybody I knew got saved in my living room.
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We were having three to 400 people come every week
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to my living room.
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We were seeing people get out of wheelchairs.
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I had an aunt that was born deaf get healed.
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I had a cousin that was deaf get healed.
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I saw people that never walked walk again.
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And that led to a lot of my friends I was partying with
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were coming to my living room for this revival meeting
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and they were manifesting demons.
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They would literally walk in my living room
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and start growling, screaming, blaspheming God,
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slithering on the ground.
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And I was sitting there going,
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I partied with that guy last week
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and now he's on my floor slithering like a snake.
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So I realized like, this is spiritual.
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There's a spiritual realm.
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My uncle who's in ministry for 30 years
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knew about all of this.
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And I said, could we do this stuff?
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Like the Bible shows deliverance.
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Jesus cast out demons everywhere.
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And I didn't have this religious mindset at the time.
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I just thought, hey, Jesus did it.
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His disciples did it.
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The book of Acts did it.
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We're disciples.
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Could we do this?
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And my uncle who had been in ministry for 30 years
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says that he had in that moment had to decide,
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am I gonna spiritually neuter them
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and tell them this isn't for today?
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Or am I gonna tell them absolutely everything
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in the Bible you can do?
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And my uncle said, miho was what, you know,
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we're Hispanic.
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He said miho, everything in the Bible you can do.
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You can cast out demons.
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You can lay hands on the sick.
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You can preach the gospel.
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And that turned into us literally doing deliverance
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almost every single day on one of our family,
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one of our friends.
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And that led me into deliverance.
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And then now 13 years later,
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finally have a lot of those early stories
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and early things in a book form
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when the Lord basically said it's time now
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to create a manual, make it easy for people,
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make it practical.
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I made a joke and said,
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if you're looking for a book where it's like,
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Jezebel, Leviathan, all of that, that is not this book.
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This is a practical guide
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where any person can pick it up
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and understand how to cast out demons.
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In the book, I talk about things like how people get demons,
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all of the stories of Jesus casting out demons,
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signs you have a demon,
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items you might have in your home that open you to demons.
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I give like a seven step method.
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I talk about stubborn demons, how to keep the demons out.
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So literally everything you need to know
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is all there in the book,
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but hopefully it could be a practical guide
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for people that wanna get involved
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in deliverance ministry.
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Cause I firmly believe scripture tells us
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every person is called to drive out demons.
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It's not just for the select few, John.
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It's for every single disciple of Jesus Christ.
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They shall cast out demons.
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So I'm super convicted about that.
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Yeah, I can tell you.
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And you're passionate about this.
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And I love the fact that you have been going online
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for several years now,
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and you're seeing deliverance happening digitally.
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And I just gotta say,
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society is talking about demons
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more than the church, it seems.
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I mean, just recently Tucker Carlson says
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that he was physically attacked by a demon
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and it left bloody claw marks on him,
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which then led him to really reading the Bible
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and searching and for like the last year and a half or so,
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which hearing that testimony was wild.
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And then there's celebrities that are openly claiming
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that they are operating in the demonic,
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but the church just isn't even talking about it.
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I mean, you do a lot of videos and reactions
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to things that are happening in our culture and our world.
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Let's talk about the culture,
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but also before we get into that,
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why isn't the church talking about demonic deliverance?
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So there's a saying that ignorance is bliss
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is only said by the ignorant.
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And I think when we say the word ignorant, it sounds mean.
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You're like, why would you call the church ignorant?
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The word ignorant is not a mean word.
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It means you just don't know.
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You just don't know something.
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And for a while I was frustrated
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at the state of the church and the pastors like,
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why Lord, why don't they do this?
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Why aren't they talking about?
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And the Lord's like, Isaiah, they're just ignorant.
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They just don't know.
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They've never learned about it.
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They don't believe it.
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And so I think that's where the church is at
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because we haven't seen it.
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We haven't been taught about it.
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We're ignorant to it.
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But the problem is you can't read the gospels
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and say that this isn't happening
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because it happened all throughout scripture.
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And what the Lord's been showing me even this week was,
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Isaiah, you're not pointing people to something new.
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There's nothing new.
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There's nothing we're pointing to.
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There's no new doctrine in the book.
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You're not gonna find like a new revelation.
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You're actually pointing people back.
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The Lord's been showing me to ancient paths,
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to what the Lord did.
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But this is not a new teaching.
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This is an ancient teaching that's been forgotten about,
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that's been lied about, that's been rejected,
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that's been put in the corner somewhere
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that people are afraid of.
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But the bottom line is now we're at a place
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where the devil is hidden in plain sight.
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He's trying to hide, but he's in plain view
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where like every Grammy show, every celebrity event,
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every, we already know, if there's a Grammys,
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there's gonna be a bunch of demonic stuff happening
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on stage.
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a bunch of demonic stuff on stage.
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Any big platform the world has, it's always demonic.
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It's always dark now.
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And that wasn't the case 50 years ago.
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He's not ashamed anymore.
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if he's unapologetic, we need to be unashamed.
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We need to be unapologetic.
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He's not apologizing for demonizing our kids.
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So we shouldn't apologize for delivering our kids.
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He's not apologizing for wrecking our families
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with pornography and divorce and anger and the new age.
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We shouldn't apologize for setting the captives free,
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for seeing deliverance, for seeing miracles.
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So yeah, we're at a time where the world is actually open
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to talking about these things
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and there's a biblical way to do it.
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It's all through the scripture.
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We look at like Mark 1.39,
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Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting out demons.
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he told the 12 disciples, go cast out demons.
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He didn't ask them, John.
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He didn't say, if you feel like it, if you want to,
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that was the commission.
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Then in Luke 10, he tells the 72, go cast out demons.
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we see Philip, the only named evangelist in scripture.
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What is he doing at his first crusade?
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He's casting out demons and healing the sick.
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So this is inevitable through scripture.
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You can't avoid this.
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As his disciples, I wanna make it very basic.
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If I'm his disciple, I'm his representative.
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2 Corinthians 5 says, we are Christ's ambassadors.
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So I look at Jesus and I go, okay, very simply,
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what did he do?
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He healed the sick, he cast out demons
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and he preached the gospel.
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Those are the three things he did.
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Like this is objective.
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Those are the three things he did.
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So as his ambassador, as his follower,
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as his disciple, John 14, 12, he says,
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you're gonna do the same works I've done and even greater
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because now I'm going to the father.
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Wouldn't it make sense, John, that we as his disciples
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are called to do the same works, not only that Jesus did,
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but the disciples did, the early church did.
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And that includes casting out demons.
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That includes healing the sick.
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That includes preaching the gospel.
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Every single person watching this right now
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has a friend or family and this is no debate to this.
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You have a friend or family that needs deliverance.
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And you can't just say, I'm gonna bring them to Isaiah,
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sell them our deliverance of it.
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I'm gonna bring them to my pastor.
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No, you're called to set the cap this free.
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Mark 16, the first sign of being a believer
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is these signs will follow.
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In my name, they'll drive out demons.
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Like imagine, John, that's the first telltale sign.
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You meet somebody on the street, you're like,
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oh, you're a believer?
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Yeah, oh, me too.
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Oh, so you cast out demons?
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Like that would be crazy.
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People would look at you like you're nuts.
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Yet in the Bible, in the book of Mark,
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it says that'll be the first sign of a believer
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is they will cast out demons.
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But I think it's essential that we do that.
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The world deserves it.
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The world needs it.
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The church needs it.
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Our friends and family need it.
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We really need compassion.
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We need to be heartbroken over the state of society.
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I refuse to believe that we are the most depressed
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generation in existence.
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I refuse to stand around
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while we're the most suicidal generation ever.
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The devil is pouring out a spirit.
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That's true.
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Just turn on the news, turn on the television.
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But the Lord is also pouring out his spirit,
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which is greater, which is more powerful,
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which has more authority.
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And as his believers, we have the same spirit
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that raised Christ living in us
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and we're called to do this work.
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So I believe it's needed now.
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I think this whole book coming out is timely.
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We're in this era, this generation that's hungry
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for the spiritual realm.
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And we're really giving them what they want.
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And that is, tell me what Jesus did.
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Tell me about Jesus.
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And this is something Jesus did everywhere.
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You know, I'm really loving the fact that, you know,
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Charisma, we've published a number of people's, you know,
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part of the Demon Slayers group, you know,
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with you and Alexander Pagani and Mike Signorelli
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and Vlad Savchuk and, you know, depending on, you know,
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who else might be part of that group.
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But you guys are all friends.
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You're all in ministry together in some way, shape or form.
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Greg Locke.
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And we love just seeing what the Holy Spirit is doing
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at this time in history.
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There is a renewed focus on deliverance,
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but that still brings me back to this question
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of why has the church not paid attention to this?
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Why has the church kind of let this go to the side?
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And it's almost like, those are the strange people
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that do deliverance over there.
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Like, those are the weirdos.
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You know, let's take this out of the main service
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into that back room there
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and get those people help that way.
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Why is this, like, let's talk about this a little bit
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because we are missing something
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that God tells us that we're supposed to do.
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Yeah, it's the pastor's job.
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That's a straight up truth.
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The pastor leads the church.
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The pastor's the one, whatever his vision is,
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that's the direction of the church.
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If we look at the modern church and say,
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why is deliverance not happening?
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We have to point it to the leaders.
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The leader, we have to point to the leaders.
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Like, if there's a bad policy in the country,
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we don't blame the citizens
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because we have no power over that.
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We blame the leaders that the citizens elected
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and go, why are the leaders not doing their job?
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So I look at the pastors and say, it's really their job.
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I've told pastors before,
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how do you preach 52 weeks out of the year
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and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere?
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I mean, think about that.
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You gave 52 sermons and you somehow skipped over
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what Jesus did in every single city he went to
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and what the disciples did.
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And so it's necessary as leaders,
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we're trained and equipped to cast out demons.
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It starts with the leadership and then leads into people.
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Okay, so now we're in a place where,
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you just said it, John,
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we're in a deliverance revival right now.
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And this is because for the first time in history,
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social media is a thing, right?
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Like 10 years ago, there was no short form content.
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10 years ago, going viral didn't really exist.
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Well, here now you have a church over here that rejects it,
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refused to talk about it.
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Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online.
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They're not waiting for permission from a local church,
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which I love the local church.
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I pastored for a decade.
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I'm a part of a local church.
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Mike, Vlad and Pagani are all senior pastors
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of local churches.
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So I love the local church.
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But here's what you have now,
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online taking off, going viral.
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And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative.
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They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church.
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So because our videos are getting
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millions and millions of views,
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the first deliverance video I ever posted on TikTok
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got 15 million views.
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So you can't now avoid the deliverance now.
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Cause like everybody at my church is asking
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why we don't do it.
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Everybody at my church is asking,
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why is it happening online?
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They're giving verses.
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It's in the Bible.
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It's theologically sound.
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The pastors have no choice now, but to embrace it.
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Just three weeks ago, we were in the Now Arena in Chicago.
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10,000 people gathered.
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And at the very end of the day,
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we had mass deliverance with 10,000 people,
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packed out arena.
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So it's like, you can't ignore anymore
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what the Lord is doing.
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And it all points back to the cross.
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It all points back to Jesus.
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Isaiah has no power.
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Mike has no power.
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Vlad, Pagani, none of us have power or authority.
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All we're doing is pointing people back to Jesus
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and saying it's in his name that we cast our demons.
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It's in his name that there's power and authority.
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And so now I could tell you pastors
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that would never invite me, never do deliverance,
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never want anything to do with it,
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are now starting to do deliverance,
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are now starting to get deliverance.
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I just talked to a guy today who said,
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my pastors of a large known mega church,
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he literally just told me today, I won't say who,
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my pastors just went through deliverance.
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So now it's like, even these big, big, big churches,
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our pastors are going through deliverance.
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They're starting to teach it.
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They're bringing people in.
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I've been in some large churches that five years ago,
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I would have laughed if you said,
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they're gonna bring you in to teach on deliverance.
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I would have been like, they would never invite me.
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And now they're inviting me
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because they're seeing not only is it working,
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the world needs it and the church is hungry for it.
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But now I think we're seeing that ignorance break.
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And of course, the books, the videos online,
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I have 2,200 videos on my channel.
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So like we're teaching people, we're training people,
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we're going through the Bible
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and it's waking people up to this truth of what Jesus did.
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Yeah, and thank you for your YouTube channel.
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I love seeing all the stuff that you're doing.
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I mean, you're teaching about deliverance.
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You're teaching about other things beyond that as well,
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but you're commenting about what is happening
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in our culture in so many of the viral videos.
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One of the things I wanna talk to you about
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is just this whole concept of the legal deliver,
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or the legal possession, I guess.
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Because if somebody is going to be demonically possessed
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or oppressed, they normally had some sort of a,
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they did something that legally gave the devil permission
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to do what he's doing, right?
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Yeah.
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And so in society though,
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we're seeing this manifest in the public.
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So what have we done as a society
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or what are we allowing as a society
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that keeps allowing these Super Bowl halftime shows
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or the Grammys or all of these things
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that are openly demonic expressions,
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what are we doing or not doing that is actually giving
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the devil legal right to do these things?
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Yeah, so all of these things are to desensitize us, right?
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Are to make the demonic innocent, no big deal.
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So like, just for an example,
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the biggest artist right now in the world is Taylor Swift.
525
00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:34,920
And all of these young people love her,
526
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,000
all of these people, she's like had a billion dollar tour.
527
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,320
She's now like the highest grossing.
528
00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,360
So she's broken every record for an artist.
529
00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,440
She goes on Twitter and says,
530
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,300
I'm the witchest witch there is.
531
00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,920
I'm the witchiest of witches.
532
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,760
So she's openly now saying she's involved
533
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,800
in doing new age witchcraft.
534
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880
Of course, she calls herself a Christian, which is bizarre,
535
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200
but all of her songs talk about karma
536
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200
and these new age Hindu practices and witchcraft and magic.
537
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,880
She's weaving them in to make it normal.
538
00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,320
Make it normal now that witchcraft
539
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,820
is no longer abomination the way the Bible teaches.
540
00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:02,760
It's no longer wrong.
541
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,360
So society has been normalizing demonization,
542
00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,800
making all of these things no big deal.
543
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040
It's no big deal to go get your palms read.
544
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,120
McDonald's hands out horoscopes now, right?
545
00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:13,960
They had like this little thing
546
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,920
where they were handing out horoscopes with their food.
547
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800
They're making all of these demonic satanic things normal,
548
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,840
desensitizing the masses
549
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,200
so that it's no big deal to worship the devil.
550
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,860
It's no big deal to plead your allegiance to him.
551
00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:29,920
And as believers, as Christians, we have to push back.
552
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,720
We have to call these things out.
553
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760
Jesus said this, they're gonna hate you,
554
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,060
but know that they hated me first.
555
00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:39,360
So then we ask ourselves, why did they hate Jesus?
556
00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,640
And he tells us, he said, they hated me
557
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560
because I testified that their works were evil.
558
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,260
Jesus was speaking out against the demonic culture,
559
00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,160
the darkness happening in society.
560
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,680
And they're not just talking about it,
561
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,800
but what goes down to what the book's all about is
562
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840
he was actually doing something about it.
563
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,920
So he wasn't just meeting saying, the devil's bad,
564
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,640
the culture's bad, everyone's demonic.
565
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,620
He was like, yeah, we're gonna call it out,
566
00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:02,820
but we're also gonna drive out demons.
567
00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:05,120
So we have to definitely speak out against these things
568
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,280
and reject these demonic things happening in society.
569
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,260
But we also have to do something about it.
570
00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:13,280
And that doing something about it is driving out demons
571
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,960
from our friends and family and the people around us
572
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,800
that need help.
573
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,620
So it's not enough just for us to be vocal and make noise.
574
00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:22,040
We need to be the army that God has called us to be
575
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,160
and actually start doing deliverance ministry.
576
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840
And people watching this are saying, well, how do I do it?
577
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,460
Exactly why we're putting out these books,
578
00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,480
exactly why we're giving you training manuals.
579
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,540
In the book, I have a seven step simple method.
580
00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,680
We've made it as simple as possible, theologically sound,
581
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,380
to get people to actually do the work
582
00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,380
we're telling them about.
583
00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:40,400
Because there's nothing more annoying
584
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560
than somebody saying, do something,
585
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,160
but never telling you how to do it.
586
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560
Or somebody saying, fix this,
587
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,080
but never telling you how to fix it.
588
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720
And that's a frustrating place the church is in
589
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,400
because we preach about the darkness,
590
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,760
we talk about the darkness.
591
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,380
Every Sunday we're like, they're doing this,
592
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,360
they're doing that.
593
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,120
But we're very few places are actually teaching people
594
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,420
how to do something about it.
595
00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:01,240
Deliverance is a direct confrontation
596
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,320
with the enemy's kingdom.
597
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,720
It's a power encounter.
598
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,080
It's an authority encounter.
599
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,940
Jesus said, if I cast the demons by the Spirit of God,
600
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:10,520
the finger of God, then you know the kingdom has come.
601
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,920
So the arrival of God's kingdom is deliverance.
602
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,400
And deliverance is the arrival of God's kingdom.
603
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,420
Some people get freaked out and I tell people,
604
00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:18,960
the finger of God is what delivers you.
605
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,380
Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life?
606
00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:23,240
Don't you want the finger of God in your life?
607
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,560
It's nothing to be afraid of.
608
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,560
It's beautiful.
609
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,400
It's freedom.
610
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,460
It's the Lord bringing you out of the cage
611
00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:31,000
that you're in in bondage and setting you free.
612
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,720
And so we desperately need it.
613
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,200
We have to be vocal about it.
614
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,440
And we have to stop tolerating
615
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,920
and allowing these things in our life.
616
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080
I'll say this and then turn it back over to you.
617
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,240
The number one open door to the devil in this generation,
618
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,440
the number one thing that opens people up to demons
619
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,360
that every person has right now.
620
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,840
Every person that's watching has a new device
621
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200
that I believe is the greatest open door
622
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,240
to the devil in existence.
623
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,000
And it's right here sitting on my desk.
624
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,960
It's a cell phone.
625
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240
This right here is an open door.
626
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040
You know this, I know this.
627
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,800
The every type of dark thing online.
628
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,240
It's so accessible.
629
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,520
It's so easy.
630
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480
50 years ago, if guys wanted to get involved
631
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,920
in sexual sin, they had to go to a store.
632
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,800
They had to be secretive.
633
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,640
They have to hide.
634
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040
They have to get a magazine, hide it.
635
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,100
No more.
636
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,760
Now we have people, young people coming to our meetings
637
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,200
that are seven, eight years old saying,
638
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240
I'm watching internet pornography on my iPad.
639
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,080
I'm addicted.
640
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,360
I had a seven year old.
641
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,680
Parents came to me and said,
642
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,760
our son's addicted to pornography.
643
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,600
And we started praying for him.
644
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,160
He told me, I wake up every morning
645
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360
before my family goes to work and I get on the iPad
646
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,000
and I watch hours of pornography every morning.
647
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480
This kid's like seven years old.
648
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,000
And that is the access.
649
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,760
These young kids have to darkness,
650
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,280
to demonic stuff, to opening themselves up to demons.
651
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
And it's no wonder why we are considered
652
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,860
the highest depression rate, the highest suicide rate,
653
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:49,680
the highest rate of perversion,
654
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320
the highest rate of pornography.
655
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,200
It's because the access is so easy.
656
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,740
And for the first time in history,
657
00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:57,480
you can access all types of demonic things from your phone,
658
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,180
which again, 20 years ago,
659
00:21:59,180 --> 00:22:00,720
we didn't even have smartphones like this
660
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,900
where everybody had one, we were accessible.
661
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,880
So now that the devil's made himself extremely accessible,
662
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,300
watch this, we have now made ourselves
663
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,800
as the kingdom accessible.
664
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,100
Now we're online.
665
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:14,560
Tomorrow night, this is gonna shock some people.
666
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,300
Tomorrow night, I will be live on Zoom,
667
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:19,740
casting demons out of people.
668
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:22,040
I'm not just gonna let the devil use the technology.
669
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280
We're gonna use the technology God has given us.
670
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,840
If I could pray for somebody on the phone,
671
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,080
I can pray for them over Zoom.
672
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560
And we're gonna see people get demons cast out of them
673
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,520
on a Zoom call.
674
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840
So we're gonna use every tool we have,
675
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,640
these tools are not just for the enemy.
676
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720
We're gonna use them for the kingdom of God.
677
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,100
Whatever the devil's using these vehicles,
678
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,840
God's also using to set people free.
679
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,440
And so it's a beautiful time
680
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,380
because it's a time of revivals, time of deliverance.
681
00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:46,160
I know it might sound like, oh, this is all bad and dark.
682
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,920
No, it's a great time to be alive.
683
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,440
The Lord is pouring out of spirit
684
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,260
and we can utilize all these vehicles
685
00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,040
to see the captive set free.
686
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800
I love that you're so joyful about this
687
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,360
because these are dark times,
688
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,120
but we are bringing the light of Christ.
689
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,400
We're called to be salt and light.
690
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,640
And I love that you are bringing joy to this.
691
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,760
I mean, there's a passion and then there's a joy.
692
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,460
Earlier you said that we need to cast out
693
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:15,680
and bring deliverance to our friends and family.
694
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480
My question for you about this is,
695
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,920
okay, so how do we recognize
696
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600
that this is actually a demonic thing in them?
697
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280
And then how do you get them to actually accept
698
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,320
that they need to be delivered?
699
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,000
Because do you just go around
700
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480
and sneak attack deliverance people?
701
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240
How do you do that?
702
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Yeah, so if you're having friends and family
703
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,440
that are dealing with something,
704
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,880
there's a very loving way to say,
705
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880
hey, there's a spiritual realm.
706
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,720
It's super simple.
707
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,720
There's a spiritual realm.
708
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000
And the Bible talks about
709
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720
how these are persons without bodies.
710
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,040
These spirits are personalities that live inside of us.
711
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,600
Matthew 12, Jesus said, demons, all us their home.
712
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320
And you just tell your friend or family,
713
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,920
say they're dealing with suicidal thoughts.
714
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Like, hey, that's not normal.
715
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,680
God doesn't want that for you.
716
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,480
That's something in you telling you to do something
717
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,320
that you don't wanna do.
718
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,800
And they know they don't wanna do it.
719
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480
Many people tell you, I don't wanna take my life.
720
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,320
I don't wanna cut my arm,
721
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360
but there's an overwhelming desire for me to do it.
722
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,480
And you let them know and God will fill your mouth
723
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,520
and give you the words.
724
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Like, I can pray for you and God can set you free.
725
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,360
And this is very important.
726
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,200
Inviting them over to your house, right?
727
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Making them feel comfortable
728
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,920
and just starting to pray for them.
729
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920
You don't have to say,
730
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,200
oh, we're gonna do an exorcism.
731
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,240
We're gonna get oil.
732
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320
We're gonna turn all the lights off and light candles.
733
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,280
You don't have to do all that.
734
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,240
You invite them over, get them in a safe place
735
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,680
and say, I just wanna pray for you.
736
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440
And then when you pray for them,
737
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,880
and we talk about this in the book,
738
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,280
you don't just go, Lord, thank you for them.
739
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,520
Help them Lord, amen.
740
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,760
That's how a lot of people pray
741
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,600
and that's great for a certain place,
742
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,120
but that's not great if somebody has a demon
743
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,400
and you're trying to get the demon out.
744
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640
It's very important that you confront the demon.
745
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,920
And this is something most people have never done.
746
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,680
When we do deliverance on people, John,
747
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,240
they always say, how did I have this my entire life?
748
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,920
And when they say this, they mean the demon.
749
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680
And I didn't even know.
750
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520
I never knew I had a demon until now.
751
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,200
And I always ask them the same question, John, I say,
752
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040
have you ever had anybody pray for you
753
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,480
and confront the demon?
754
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720
And every single time they say, no,
755
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680
I've been in church for 30 years, John.
756
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200
I've never had anybody confront a demon in me.
757
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600
I've never had anybody pray deliverance over me.
758
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
So the devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position.
759
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,920
He's not gonna voluntarily say, here I am, kick me out.
760
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,000
He's very crafty.
761
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,360
He hides using camouflage.
762
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,600
I talk about that as well in the book.
763
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440
That's his favorite tool is camouflage.
764
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,880
He hides in the environment.
765
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480
So as believers, we have to confront the demon.
766
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,120
So for example, let's just be super practical, John.
767
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,640
I have a family member saying,
768
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,080
I'm dealing with these suicidal thoughts.
769
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Will you pray for me?
770
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Absolutely.
771
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Thursday night, come over the house.
772
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,520
I wanna pray with you.
773
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,120
They come over the house Thursday night.
774
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,920
Me and my wife get together with, let's say, my cousin,
775
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080
and she comes over, put on some worship music.
776
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,120
Hey, we're gonna talk with you.
777
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:48,940
We love you.
778
00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:49,780
We appreciate you.
779
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:51,080
Show them a few scriptures.
780
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,240
Hey, this is what the Bible teaches.
781
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,880
We know God can set you free.
782
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,000
We don't want you to deal with this.
783
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560
We know God doesn't want you to deal with this.
784
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,680
We're gonna pray for you.
785
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,840
And then we're gonna talk to her
786
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,280
about these simple steps we give,
787
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like renouncing things and unforgiveness.
788
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,120
Hey, is there any unforgiveness in your life?
789
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120
Let's deal with these things.
790
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:04,960
Let us pray.
791
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,120
And then we're gonna start praying.
792
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,160
And I'm gonna say, literally, I'm gonna say,
793
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
I command any spirit of suicide.
794
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,660
I call you out now.
795
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,720
You must leave now in Jesus' name.
796
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,760
You have no power.
797
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,040
I'm gonna actually start going to war
798
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,480
on behalf of my family.
799
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600
And I'm gonna start calling that thing out of her.
800
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,520
And likely, she's gonna start feeling that thing
801
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520
wanting to come up.
802
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680
She's gonna start maybe growling or coughing
803
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,520
or feeling anger.
804
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,940
Her heart will start racing.
805
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,500
That demon will start coming up to the surface
806
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,240
because with the authority Jesus has given me,
807
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,900
I'm evicting it from its home.
808
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,340
Again, Matthew 12 says, demons call us their home.
809
00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:38,960
Very easy, very practical.
810
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600
I'm commanding that thing to leave her.
811
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,640
And I'm not doing it like one time for one minute.
812
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
I'm gonna keep confronting and keep calling that thing out
813
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800
until that thing comes out of her.
814
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,460
And that is where we've missed it.
815
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:50,300
We don't go into that.
816
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,320
We just, Lord, have your way.
817
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200
We pray at a distance, but Jesus actually called
818
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320
the disciples to go cast out demons.
819
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800
And then they came back and Luke 10 and said,
820
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,720
even the demons obey us in your name.
821
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Like they were shocked.
822
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,440
They were like, this stuff works.
823
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840
And I'm telling you guys, if you start doing this
824
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,160
and praying for friends and family
825
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920
like the way we show in the book, it actually works.
826
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400
When you start confronting the demon in the name of Jesus,
827
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
it's not fancy, it's not complicated.
828
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840
You'll start seeing the demons will respond
829
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,220
and you, the listeners right now,
830
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:23,200
will be like those disciples in Luke 10.
831
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200
And they'll be like, wow, we thought Isaiah was nuts,
832
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600
but this stuff actually works.
833
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,600
The demons obey us.
834
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,720
And I'll tell you why it works
835
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,120
because the Bible says it works.
836
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,880
The Bible has given us power and authority.
837
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,680
And if you get this book, you're gonna realize
838
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,120
there's scripture throughout the entire book.
839
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,640
In fact, the second chapter is all scripture.
840
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,960
It's all the ministry of Jesus
841
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,160
and him casting out demons everywhere he went.
842
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440
And some people will be shocked going like,
843
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,340
how did I live my whole life
844
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,480
and not even realize how real this was?
845
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480
It's real, it's happening right now.
846
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320
And we're called as believers to do it.
847
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,280
And I think this book is gonna help people
848
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080
to get the tools they need to start doing
849
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,040
what Jesus has called us all to do.
850
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Yeah, you mentioned putting on worship music
851
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,520
whenever you're praying for somebody.
852
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Is there any specific songs or specific type of music,
853
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960
like specific style of worship music
854
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,520
that people should use in this to set an atmosphere?
855
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600
How important is the atmosphere for you in this?
856
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Yeah, I think what's important
857
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,680
is making sure the person's comfortable
858
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,360
and making sure that they feel loved
859
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,800
and they feel the compassion.
860
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,160
You definitely wanna make an atmosphere
861
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,640
where they're comfortable to share,
862
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
they're comfortable to maybe even manifest a demon
863
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,920
because a lot of times the demons
864
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,120
are speaking out of the person
865
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,960
and it could be a very uncomfortable thing.
866
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440
But making the person comfortable is super crucial.
867
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200
And it's like, you don't wanna go into a room
868
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
and have the lights blaring on them, no music on,
869
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
super awkward, very uncomfortable.
870
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880
You wanna set an atmosphere where they're comfortable
871
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960
to get set free.
872
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
And for me it's like, okay, this is gonna be funny,
873
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880
but there's a song, super old school.
874
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600
When I say old school, I'm talking like 10 years ago
875
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
because that's for me old school, I'm young, right?
876
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040
But there's a song called Freedom Reigns
877
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880
by a band named Jesus Culture.
878
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,000
And it's an old school song,
879
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,600
it just says freedom reigns in this place.
880
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,840
And it's all about freedom.
881
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320
That's like my go-to, I play that at every deliverance,
882
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
I put it on repeat and it just basically says like,
883
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,280
freedom reigns in this place.
884
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160
And I love that song and I know like demons hate that song
885
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480
because it's all about the freedom Christ has given us.
886
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
So I would say, I like to put on music that's, you know,
887
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280
chill, not super loud, praise, fast pace,
888
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
but just real low key worship music
889
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,040
that's about the freedom Christ has set the atmosphere,
890
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,960
invite the Holy Spirit into the room.
891
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Holy Spirit, we invite you,
892
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,600
I want you to lead this deliverance.
893
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600
I want you to be the one that runs the deliverance.
894
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
And throughout the whole process, John,
895
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280
we're letting the Holy Spirit lead.
896
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,280
We're being open, our ears are attentive to what he's saying,
897
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960
whatever direction he wants to go.
898
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Yes, we give a seven step framework, but in the book,
899
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800
before I even give the seven steps, I say,
900
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise, go with him.
901
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120
They don't go with me if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise.
902
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600
This is just a guide, it's not ritualistic.
903
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160
It's not like the way the Catholic church does exorcism
904
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,840
where they read specific prayers.
905
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,320
This is not ritualistic.
906
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,840
This is led by the Holy Spirit
907
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680
taking our authority Christ has given us.
908
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640
So it's definitely not like,
909
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120
if you don't go through all seven steps,
910
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,960
it's not gonna work.
911
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
No, this is about being led by the Spirit.
912
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,320
These steps are just gonna help you
913
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,640
to go through deliverance process
914
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,280
when you stall out, when you get stuck.
915
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920
But at the end of the day, this is a work of the Spirit.
916
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,320
This is not a work of Isaiah.
917
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
It's not a work of Alexander Pagani.
918
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680
This is a work of the Holy Spirit.
919
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,000
It's his ministry.
920
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
He's the one doing the heavy lifting.
921
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,880
We're just his vessels.
922
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360
We're just the ones carrying him.
923
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,680
He's the one that's gonna do the work.
924
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
And so be led by the Spirit, put on some worship music,
925
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,240
spend some time in prayer.
926
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160
It might even help as the deliverance minister
927
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,720
is fast one or two days.
928
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
If it's your first deliverance, fast for a day,
929
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,520
fast for two days.
930
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
I like to fast until the deliverance is over.
931
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800
So if I'm doing a deliverance at six o'clock,
932
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,160
I'll fast all day.
933
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,320
The deliverance, say it's at six,
934
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,800
goes to like, say seven or eight.
935
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640
And then after eight, nine o'clock, then hey,
936
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,840
I'll eat after the deliverance.
937
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,520
But I like to fast any days that I do deliverance.
938
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,680
I'm fasting that day.
939
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Even days I preach, I fast.
940
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,160
I wanna be ready.
941
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,680
I wanna be in the right mindset.
942
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560
I wanna have every hindrance blocked.
943
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,240
I don't even wanna be thinking about food.
944
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,800
I wanna have every hindrance out of the way
945
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,460
and just be locked in for what the Lord wants to do.
946
00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:08,760
So yeah, those are just simple steps.
947
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,560
And again, of course, the book's 200 pages.
948
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,380
So I'm just giving you guys in a nutshell.
949
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:14,840
The book goes into detail what you should wear,
950
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,700
how you should act,
951
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,280
how many people should be in the deliverance.
952
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,720
When I say everything you need to know,
953
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120
like every little detail is gonna be there
954
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,160
to try to help you guys be real practical about it
955
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
so you can start doing this ministry.
956
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680
Yeah, you are backing up that claim in a strong way
957
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
and kudos to you for that.
958
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,000
And so I wanna encourage everybody
959
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000
to go get How to Cast Out Demons by Isaiah Saldivar.
960
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080
And but before we wrap up here,
961
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840
I know you said so perfectly
962
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440
that we need to be led by the Holy Spirit.
963
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Isaiah, would you just pray for the people
964
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,040
that have watched this far
965
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,840
that they would be led by the Holy Spirit,
966
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960
that they would be even filled by the Holy Spirit
967
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,800
through this video,
968
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
and that they might even be delivered through this video
969
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,440
if they need to do that.
970
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,120
Absolutely, Father, we thank you, Lord,
971
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,360
for what you're doing in this hour.
972
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,720
God, I thank you that those listening,
973
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120
that you've called them to cast out demons.
974
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
I thank you, Lord, that they hear your voice,
975
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,800
that they know you,
976
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,280
and they are filled with your power.
977
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480
God, we pray right now for those that might not be.
978
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Lord, we pray you would fill them with your Holy Spirit
979
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,880
as your word says, that you give good gifts.
980
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,400
And all we have to do according to your word
981
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,960
is ask for the Holy Spirit.
982
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,800
For those listening,
983
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,160
just ask him for his Holy Spirit right now.
984
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,160
He'll give it to you.
985
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Father, we ask that you would just pour out right now
986
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,360
on this generation, God.
987
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Pour out on the listeners.
988
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Lord, I pray that you would train them,
989
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,640
that you would equip them.
990
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,920
God, whether they get the book or not,
991
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,760
it doesn't matter, Lord,
992
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,320
that you've called them to do this.
993
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720
And I pray, Holy Spirit, that you would be their guide.
994
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
I pray, Lord, that you would be their GPS
995
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,200
while they're doing deliverance.
996
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Lord, empower them by your Spirit.
997
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Anoint them by your Spirit, God.
998
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,040
I pray for some of those that are demonized,
999
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,880
even watching.
1000
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Lord, that you would deliver them right now.
1001
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440
We just command every unclean spirit
1002
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,280
to leave them now in Jesus' name.
1003
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Satan, you have no power, you have no authority,
1004
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
and you have no legal rights to our life.
1005
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
We pray that they would leave now in Jesus' name.
1006
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Every demon has to go.
1007
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Satan, you have no authority.
1008
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,520
We cancel your plans.
1009
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,040
We cancel your strategies.
1010
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,280
And Father, I just pray right now,
1011
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080
Lord, have your way.
1012
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,560
God, use them to cast out demons.
1013
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Bring people around them that need deliverance.
1014
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Open the doors, God.
1015
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Set up divine appointments.
1016
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760
I pray, God, that all fear would leave,
1017
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200
that your word says that you've not given us
1018
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440
a spirit of fear, but power, love, and a sound mind.
1019
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,360
That we rebuke the spirit of fear,
1020
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160
and we just pray for a spirit of power, love,
1021
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
and a sound mind just to flow right now for every listener.
1022
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,480
God, anoint them by your Spirit.
1023
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,120
We bless them now in Jesus' name, we pray, amen.
1024
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Amen and amen.
1025
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Isaias Aldivar, thank you so much
1026
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360
for taking the time to be with us today
1027
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,960
and to talk about how to cast out demons.
1028
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Everything you need to know about deliverance.
1029
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240
I'm looking forward to our next time together.
1030
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Thank you, brother.
1031
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,900
Thanks so much, John, for having me on.
1032
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,320
I appreciate you and love everybody at Charisma.
1033
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960
I'm part of the family now, so we love the Charisma family.
1034
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Guys, go get the book.
1035
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Amazon's an easy place to get it.
1036
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080
You can get it on Barnes and Noble's website as well.
1037
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Get the book.
1038
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,480
I definitely believe it's gonna help you
1039
00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:03,480
do this ministry God's called us to do.