Exposing the Occult in Church's Secret Societies Unveiled: Billy Crone Speaks Out

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but have also exposed occult behavior going on in churches.

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They don't even know because they're not even being taught.

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And so the enemy's very slick.

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All he does is just taking a cult practice

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and he relabels it and sprinkles it with some Christianese

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and people buy into it.

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Pastor Billy Cron, it's great to have you here on Charisma.

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And I've been looking forward to this

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because I had that opportunity to look at

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some of your YouTube channel videos

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and you have done quite an extensive deep dive

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into some very, let's say interesting topics

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that the church doesn't normally talk about at all.

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And most of the time it says,

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let's just save that for the fringe group over there.

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But you're dealing with it head on on Sunday mornings

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at any other time that you can

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because these are things that the church needs to deal with.

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And I'm talking about secret societies

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and different things like that.

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So before we get into that though, Pastor Billy,

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I wanna let people hear your testimony.

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You started telling me a little bit beforehand,

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but I was blown away already.

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So just to tell us about who Pastor Billy is.

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Aha, well, yeah, thanks, John.

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Thanks for having me on to treat.

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And yeah, what a privilege to be able to share a God's story,

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it's his story of what he's done with a wretch like me.

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And hopefully it would encourage people to never give up.

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I was a blasphemer, I was not raising the church.

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I grew up in the Midwest, Kansas, Nebraska.

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I was turned off to Christianity early on,

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basically with the hypocrisy that I saw growing up.

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I've done just about every drug on the sun,

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was involved in all kinds of sin, immorality,

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but basically a 1980s ex-headbanger drug addict,

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sexually immoral, male chivalrous pig guy,

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involved in the occult.

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When I was about 16 years old,

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I was so depressed and longing for purpose in life.

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I unfortunately did my first prayer

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and that was a prayer to Satan.

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And I said, Satan, you can have this life

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if you give me power and significance.

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And to show his character, John chapter eight G said,

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Satan is a liar.

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He's the father of all lies.

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He's a murderer and he's been one from the beginning.

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Well, within three months of that, sure enough,

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I tried to kill myself three different times

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and twice with pills that didn't work.

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So I shot myself once in the chest here with a rifle.

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And to be honest with you, John, I didn't want to die.

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That was, I guess, my unfortunate way

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of letting people know that I'm dying on the inside.

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And I don't have any answers.

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And the sad thing is I was surrounded

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by people who profess to be Christians.

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I was surrounded by churches,

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but nobody was telling me about Jesus.

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And again, back to the hypocrisy,

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when I'm wanting answers for life,

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the guys that I'm parting with during the week,

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on the weekends, doing the sinful rotten things,

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guess where they would go on Sundays

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if they weren't too hungover or strung out?

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Church services.

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So of course they weren't telling me about Jesus.

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And of course the message though,

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they were loudly declaring to me was apparently,

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Christianity is a joke,

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because I don't see no change in you

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and no difference, you're just like me.

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So when I finally got awakened to spiritual things,

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wanting to find out what is life all about,

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why am I here? You know, the classic bare bones questions

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that everybody has, I was on my own.

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So unfortunately I went from making that pact with Satan.

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I ended up moving from Kansas to California.

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And for a while I tried to reform my life

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and get an education.

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I cut my hair and did all those things that society says

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you need to, you know, have a successful great life

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and fill that hole in your heart.

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And unfortunately one of my roommates,

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he turned me onto the Satanic Bible, Antoine Leveille.

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And that invited unfortunately a lot of demonic activity.

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That most likely if I wasn't already by then,

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I was probably, that was my first time being possessed.

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And then I went from there to make matters worse.

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I had a coworker who introduced me into New Age.

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And New Age, if your audience is not familiar with that,

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it's basically making up your own religion as you go.

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You get to be God, the live Genesis three,

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you get to determine what's right and wrong.

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And so it's kind of like a cafeteria.

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You know, you go down the line and you say,

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I want a little bit of this, I'll put that on my plate.

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I'll take a little bit of this and put it on my plate.

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Same thing when it comes to religion.

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So I'll take a little Buddhism, I'll sprinkle that on.

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I'll do some Easter mysticism.

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I'll even do some self-help secular psychology.

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I'll just, maybe even a little bit of Christianity.

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Nothing convicting, you know,

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everybody loves the golden rule,

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but you know, you just throw it all together

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and that becomes your reality.

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Well, with that reality comes,

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you're trained to become a disseminator of this truth,

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this new truth that you get to make up.

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And in order to get that truth,

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you have to have the space brothers, believe it or not,

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UFOs came into this, the spirit guides

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and things of that nature to come inside you

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and speak through you, which I didn't know at then,

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but obviously now it's, you know,

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communicating that mediumship that God condemns

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in Deuteronomy 18.

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But now I'm multiply possessed.

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And of course, you go down this route, the darker it gets.

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And what was happening, John,

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I literally, right before I got saved,

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these guys were either, they were trying to kill me.

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So I would join them one day in the lake of fire

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or, and or they were driving me insane.

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In fact, even as a non-Christian,

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right before I got saved, it got so bad

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that I had to watch TV or read a book

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or just look at something to maintain my sanity.

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They were driving me insane.

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In fact, as, and this is what came to my mind,

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even as a non-Christian,

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that I was walking a razor's edge in my mind,

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being demon possessed,

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and that if I didn't fight this,

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if I even just for, if I slacked off,

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even for just a little bit,

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I literally knew what it was gonna be like

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to go insane and not come back.

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And that literally went through my mind.

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What makes it worse is I can't string enough words together

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in English to describe to you,

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what is it like to be demon possessed?

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Because it's not on the outside of you, that's bad enough.

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It's on the inside of you and you're not in control.

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And then when that thought hits you, it's, it just fuels it.

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So anyway, long story short, I didn't see it coming.

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It was almost like God says, okay, now's the time.

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Snaps his finger from heaven, so to speak.

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Says, watch what I do with this fool.

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And so the demonic tear, I just got into my apartment.

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It hit me again.

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I was all by myself.

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I scared me so bad this time

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that my reaction though, this time,

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was I ran to my bedroom, I was 25, I dropped on my knees.

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And I said, I said, God, if you're real,

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and you want this slide, you can have it.

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I spent the last 25 years messing it up.

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But I knew enough that I needed to call upon

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the name of Jesus Christ from two Christians

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who dared to witness to me.

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And I was mean and nasty to him.

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I was mean and nasty to every Christian.

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I was a blasphemer.

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And so I followed that up with this.

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Jesus Christ, would you please forgive me and save me?

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And bang, instantly, man, it was just,

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it was just like the scripture says,

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from darkness to light, instantaneously.

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It was like the way the world came off of my,

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out of me, shoulders.

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I'm sure that was the demons leaving me.

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The first couple of days, I'm not joking.

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It's like somebody messed with the color hue.

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The sky was blue or the grass was greener.

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I mean, it was just, I was a brand new creation Christ.

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And basically, I'm all by myself.

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All I knew was I called upon the name of Jesus Christ

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and something had radically changed.

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I started going to church services.

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I figured that's what you're supposed to do.

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I'm a Christian now.

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I found a Bible, started reading it.

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I figured that's what you're supposed to do.

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I'm a Christian now.

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And so two weeks old in the Lord,

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I'm reading the Bible before I go to bed.

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And I close it and I simply said, God, I want to know more.

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So the next day, I woke up with the idea

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that would not leave my brain, go to Bible college.

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And I'm going, man, God, that can't be you

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because I'm disqualified.

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I'm the guy that was involved in the occult.

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The drug addict guy, the last few were no way.

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Anyway, long story short, it persisted.

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Eight weeks after I got saved, I'm in Bible college.

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I was not raising the church.

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I knew nothing.

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I had to keep my thumb at the beginning of the Bible

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just to find out, okay, what book, where's that?

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I knew nothing.

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I just wanted to learn.

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I had no idea that God was going to call me

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to do what he's having me do today.

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I just wanted to know more.

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And so basically eight weeks after I'm saved,

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I'm in Bible college and for the next seven years,

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I'm there in the later seminary.

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I started pastoring before I graduated Bible college

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in California, which is where I got saved,

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Northern California.

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Then for several years there, and then I took a position,

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I pastored for five years in New York

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and now I've been 13 years in Vegas.

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Wow.

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So you went from darkness to light in a drastic way.

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And I find it very interesting

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that in today's day and age,

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there is a rise of cessationists,

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that it seems like that's something that they're,

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they're coming more of a forefront,

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attacking the spiritual.

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And so in saying that that doesn't exist,

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you have a very unique vantage point

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where you came from such darkness in the occult,

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in Satanism, where that is nothing but spiritual.

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But now you're dealing with good spiritual things

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on God's side.

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So whenever you're,

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whenever somebody brings up, oh, that's not real,

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how do you deal with that?

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Well, one, always go back to the scripture.

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And that's why I say all the time, John,

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and when I teach, I say, and where am I getting this?

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The readers I just, my personal opinion, social media.

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Oh, that's right.

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I'm quoting the Bible.

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Old in New Testament, you talk about spiritual warfare,

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you talk about demons, you talk about the reality of evil

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and Satan is not a joke, it's real, demons are real.

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It's all over the Bible, Old in New Testament.

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What verse do you want?

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How many do you want?

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And as a Christian, we're supposed to be taught

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the whole counsel of God.

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So how can you sit there and cherry pick

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and dance around something that's all over the Bible?

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Not an isolated case here and there

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that you could try to excuse away.

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This is everywhere.

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Well, I think I know why.

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Number one, if you were the enemy,

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then what's one obvious thing

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that you would try to get people to do?

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Not believing your existence,

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because then you would have a heyday.

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And John, I don't know if you've seen the recent stats,

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65% of those who profess to be Christians

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in the United States of America

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do not believe in a literal devil.

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I wonder who put that idea in their head.

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So if I was Satan, of course I wouldn't want people to know

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because then you're gonna give him even more free reign.

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And that's why for years, you can see behind me,

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I've written so many books, not just on the occult,

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but a lot of them, but have also exposed

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occult behavior going on in churches.

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They don't even know because they're not even being taught.

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And so the enemy's very slick.

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All he does is just taking a cult practice

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and he relables it and sprinkles it with some Christian ease

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and people buy into it because they're not being taught.

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And again, these are not isolated texts.

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Read the scripture.

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The Bible is a supernatural book.

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Yes, God is supernatural.

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The good news is he's above and beyond, Psalm chapter two.

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He's the one who sits enthroned in heaven last.

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He's the one who's in control, right?

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Satan is not a loose cannon on deck.

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He only gets to do what God allows him to do, right?

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And they have their day of judgment.

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They are all headed.

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Satan and the demons, Matthew 25, Jesus is clear.

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That's what hell was originally created for it was for them,

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right?

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And so their date of destiny is there, but guess what?

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That judgment day hasn't come yet.

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So this is why the scripture is replete.

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This is why Paul says repeatedly in the New Testament,

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not all of our battles are against flesh and blood.

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Sometimes, guess what?

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You're going to experience spiritual warfare.

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And I'll just add this real quick.

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And it's not just in the church, John.

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It's everywhere in the world.

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And part of that is the programming on purpose

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that's opening people up to receive a cult behavior,

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thinking that it's a good thing.

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They're rejecting Christianity, but people deep down

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inside still want to have a spiritual experience.

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And so the church not warning people,

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equipping not just the church, but people in general,

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they're backing up into the cult in droves in all forms.

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Satanism, voodoo, shamanism, witchcraft, you name it,

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it's all on the rise.

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And then the irony is, the Bible says in Revelation 9,

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that's exactly what's going to happen the last days.

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It's going to get so bad that the planet is going to be

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littered with people who literally worship demons.

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And so all that's coming into play,

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it's all there in the scripture, it's just sad

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that people don't want to believe it.

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Or dare I say, they flat out just don't want to hear it.

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And man, that's just opening up the irony is,

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it's opening up to the very thing you don't want to hear

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or believe in spiritual warfare.

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Yeah.

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You know, Pastor Billy, you said something that

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I got to dig deeper in.

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You said a cult practices sneaking into the church.

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I want to hear what those are,

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because I know that the devil doesn't have

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any creativity himself.

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He uses, he basically creates counterfeits

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of what God has given.

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But so there is real things and then there's counterfeits.

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But we let the counterfeits in thinking it's real sometimes.

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We need discernment, big time.

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Help us understand some of these occult practices

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that have snuck into churches

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and how we can have discernment to deal with those

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and keep out new ones.

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Yeah, well, some of it is just a,

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it's a flat out full on attack by the occult.

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And since people don't even want to believe in that,

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then they're coming in the church.

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They used to be outside and all that stuff,

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but no, they're in.

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And they're not just in, John.

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I've got actual pastoral reports,

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warning churches of what is going on

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in different parts of the world.

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And dare I say, even the United States,

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and I'll just give you a couple of quick examples.

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Number one, Satanists are getting so chummy

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with the church that they come in

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and they're very slick.

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The enemy, he doesn't just always come in with like

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what I experienced, you know,

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with full on demon possession, terror, you know,

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that's true, that doesn't happen.

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But the Bible also says that Satan masquerades

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as an angel of light.

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And so sometimes he dupes you with good feelings.

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And so he, it's good cop, bad cop,

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kind of, you know, he plays on you, but both are bad.

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So I'll give you a case in point.

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And this is actual reports, actual testimonies.

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Satanists have come into church,

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a lot of them, that's part of their rituals with Satanism.

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They have to break every commandment

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because it's all about rebelling against God,

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doing everything the exact opposite.

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It's called the law reversal of what God says.

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And sometimes their initiations

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is to specifically go into churches.

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Now, sometimes they'll instill fear,

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they'll do, they'll break in and do the pentagram

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and spray paint and tag churches.

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And then I'll freak people out.

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A lot of times, John, though, it's very much subtle

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and they go in specifically to destroy churches.

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Let me give you a case in point.

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His name is Glenn, he's a generational Satanist.

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He was being trained to be the next high priest

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and his family, Satanists, finally got saved.

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So he came out, he said, here was his tack.

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He was tasked with taking down

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this particular church in the town.

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And you know how he did it?

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He didn't spray paint, he didn't vandalize,

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he didn't instill fear.

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He went into the church, he learned Christianese.

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He learned to say, amen, hallelujah.

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But he wasn't talking about Jesus.

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And he sat there in this quote,

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Baptist church for two years.

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And you know how he brought that church down?

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He sat there for two years, every service,

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and all he did was murmur and complain.

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He turned to somebody and said,

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can you believe that?

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Pastor didn't know what he's talking about.

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What a joke.

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Did you see those people over there?

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What a bunch of hypocrites, whatever.

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Can you believe the decision the deconvourge just made?

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Those guys are dumb.

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They have no right being the leadership.

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He's so discord to bring the church down.

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It's that subtle, John.

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I'll give you another one.

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That's Satanist, witches.

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Witches, this goes on a lot.

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People don't realize this.

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In fact, witches oftentimes, they'll be in the service

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and they will be muttering as the pastor's preaching,

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muttering their incantations.

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People think they're speaking in tongues.

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They're muttering their curses upon the people.

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Oftentimes, they really hype it up,

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especially when the pastor's preaching

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because he's preaching the word of God.

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And so they will be doing their curses

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to put a spirit that people are lethargy

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and falling asleep.

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And I'm not saying it happens every time,

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but man, you go to church service next to you,

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and you're like, man, I was just all bright and chippy

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and what's all the sudden?

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I can't even keep my eyes open.

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And things of nature.

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But it isn't just they're sitting in the pew.

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Satanists are witches, John.

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They're working and warming their way into positions.

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Now that could be starting with getting involved

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in the choir.

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Most churches don't even vet.

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I call it the warm body syndrome.

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But you're gonna help.

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Okay, we'll put you on there.

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They don't even know if they're born again.

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They don't even ask the questions.

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Some of these people they're inviting is the occult people.

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They're warming their way into teaching Sunday school classes

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because everybody needs help, right?

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All churches, man, it seems you're short on good servants

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and help working their way into board positions.

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And ultimately is to take over the church.

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Now I'll give you a case in point.

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This really happened to me

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in one of the places that I pastored.

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And I didn't find this out until right before

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God moved us on to another ministry.

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And I'm not joking.

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This really happened.

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It was at a board meeting.

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And out of the blue, John, out of the blue,

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this person begins to go into a tirade of how,

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you know, they're kind of just a little peeved at Christians

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and how, you know, even as far back as the Salem witch trials

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and all the persecution upon the witches

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and I mean, after all, my family is from a generation of witches

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and whatever, and it was just like, what?

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What did, and you're waiting for them to, you know,

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can and camera to show up or them to say,

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hey, psych, just kidding, whatever.

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No, they're deadly serious.

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And so here's a person serving on a church board,

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generates a witchcraft, mad at Christians.

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These are the people steering the church.

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I can tell you story after story after story

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of people involved in churches coming to the churches

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and things that nature, but the church can't put two

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and two together because the church 65%

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don't even want to believe in this.

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The other big bulk do the math, right?

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35%, they don't even want to hear this.

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And so now the enemy used to be on the outside,

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they're giving free reign to come on the inside

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and you wonder, John, why there's so much turmoil

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in churches today.

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It's not just natural.

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So Pastor Billy, you said that you dealt with this

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in the church that you were in.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'm sure you've learned since then,

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but how do we identify this and keep it from happening?

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Well, part of it is, this is it.

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You got to maintain the scripture.

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You keep preaching the scripture, all the scripture,

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not saying that you got to speak on spiritual warfare

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every week, but you got to hit it, right?

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Just like Bible prophecy, right?

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I'm not saying you got to do it every week,

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but it makes up nearly one third of the Bible.

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You got to hit it sometime.

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So normally I think some of this stuff gets,

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it comes out when you're preaching on it,

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because the enemy doesn't want you to reveal

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what's going on.

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Some of it is, God will show you what you're dealing with

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and you just got to deal with it.

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And me personally, I was always trained

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that when the enemy shows his head,

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don't give him what he wants, right?

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He wants to disrupt, and I'm talking in church services.

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He wants to disrupt and he wants to take over

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and he wants to be glorified.

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And let me explain that because you might be like,

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no way I'm going to glorify Satan.

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Well, the word glorify means to give attention to.

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So when we say, I glorify God, or I'm here to glorify God,

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glorify God and all I do, it means to give attention to God.

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Right?

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So go back to that meaning.

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When you can only think about the enemy,

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when he grabs your attention and you can't shake it

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or he grabs control of the service

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and that's all you can think about,

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you're glorifying him because that's where your attention's at.

516
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,720
And so the way I was trained was you see something,

517
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,600
you deal with it, immediately shut it down

518
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,480
and get back to getting your focus back on God.

519
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,040
I'll give you a case in point.

520
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,720
This one was early on when he came here to Vegas

521
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600
and a demon possessed person came in, man,

522
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,720
in middle of services and it was a no-brainer, no-brainer.

523
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,360
I mean, I'm right, I'm preaching man right

524
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,280
when it's getting going and all of a sudden this person

525
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,680
stands up in the middle of congregation, profanity,

526
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,240
I mean just would at the top of their lungs.

527
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,080
So what do you do?

528
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,920
Did it happen?

529
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,040
No, deacons, please escort our guests out of the service

530
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,440
and immediately, and they're still doing it, whatever,

531
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080
but I kid you not, within 10 seconds it was over,

532
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,520
I didn't bring attention to it,

533
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,560
I immediately got back to my study and pressed on

534
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,000
because the enemy wants to disrupt,

535
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,560
he wants you to glorify him and you just move on.

536
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,320
So some of it, you preach on it,

537
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,320
it's gonna rear its ugly head and if it does rear its head,

538
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,280
then you just deal with it effectively and biblically.

539
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,120
But again, it's pretty simple,

540
00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:40,600
when you get in the scripture,

541
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,720
God tells you a lot about Satan, a lot of his tactics.

542
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,520
He wants to divide, he wants to destroy,

543
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,480
steal, kill and destroy, he's a deceiver, he's a liar.

544
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,600
So anywhere where you see a division,

545
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,280
where you see gossip and slander which causes division,

546
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,160
it's a no-brainer, John, these are not coming

547
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,840
from the spirit of God, right?

548
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,600
And so oftentimes, and part of it is just,

549
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,840
you just learn, right?

550
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200
It's just like, I have a rule,

551
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,720
I mean, it could be just people sin nature,

552
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,440
but you can kind of sense it, right?

553
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,920
Not only when you got somebody in the room that,

554
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960
okay, something's off, or what I call,

555
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,680
when things get really obtuse,

556
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,960
not just your normal, yippie yippie stuff like that,

557
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,200
but it's like, okay, this one's out of the, whoa,

558
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,560
that's usually a clue, okay, this is not normal.

559
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,560
This one is one of those ones, Ephesians 6,

560
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680
and you better start looking at it spiritually.

561
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,920
So Pastor Billy, you mentioned,

562
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,040
we just talked about within the church,

563
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,880
but earlier you mentioned that it's all throughout society,

564
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,840
it's permeated through society,

565
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,480
and I know from the videos that I've watched,

566
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720
you were doing a deep dive into Freemasons

567
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,040
and explaining the influence that they have

568
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,760
all throughout our society.

569
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,200
And honestly, it's something I've been interested in,

570
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,640
but I didn't even know where to begin.

571
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280
So your sermon was great about that,

572
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,920
and I know I'll probably just put links to that,

573
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,640
but give us, kind of help us understand

574
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,720
what are the Freemasons and why are they

575
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,080
such an influential thing,

576
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,680
but behind the scenes at the same time?

577
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,520
Oh, okay, yeah, great question.

578
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Well, first of all, if you've seen anything on YouTube,

579
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,880
learn to get off of YouTube, at least with our studies,

580
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,800
because we have so many that have been deleted,

581
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,680
hacked, and banned.

582
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,720
If you ever want to get everything that we do,

583
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840
all the stuff that you're missing,

584
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,160
that they don't want you to see,

585
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080
that's our teaching website, getalifemedia.com.

586
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,760
But basically the Freemasonry study,

587
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,200
I did a 10 part study on that,

588
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,200
and I didn't plan on this,

589
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,000
it's just the way it worked out, go figure.

590
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000
That was the capstone of an occult study

591
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,320
I've been working on for several years.

592
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,720
I did 20 weeks on witchcraft, 16 weeks on Satanism,

593
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,560
30 weeks on what I called voodoo vampires

594
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,720
and rise of demon worship.

595
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,680
And so basically it ended up being 66 studies

596
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,480
on six books, go figure, okay.

597
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920
So then I went from that occult study

598
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,080
into occult societies with Freemasonry being the first one.

599
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040
And that ended up being a 10 part study,

600
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,040
you can get book DVDs or you can just watch it

601
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480
on our website or download our app.

602
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,480
So, but basically that one, again, I was surprised,

603
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,120
you're right, a lot of people,

604
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,480
even Christians have heard of Freemasonry,

605
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,640
but that's about all it's gone.

606
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,960
And almost everybody has a story, well, yeah,

607
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,520
my grandfather, my uncle, or my dad,

608
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,880
or family member of this or used to be in it

609
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,680
or still is in it or whatever.

610
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,640
And they just think it's a good old boys club, no it's not.

611
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,040
It's in the cult secret society.

612
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,560
And this is what we expel.

613
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,280
And part of it too is it's not just in the world,

614
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,240
it's in the church.

615
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,400
And I bring up examples again

616
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,960
of not just experiencing occult behavior in the church,

617
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,160
but Freemasonry.

618
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,920
In fact, this was my very first senior pastorate

619
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040
and my very first encounter with Freemasonry.

620
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,240
And what it was, I was four weeks in

621
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320
and I was just doing a basic polemic study

622
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,800
at that time on Sunday

623
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,840
on the uniqueness of Christ and the cross, right?

624
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,520
As opposed to other religions on the planet,

625
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,640
you know, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam,

626
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,120
even, you know, Jehovah's Witnesses,

627
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,240
some of the pseudo Christian cults.

628
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,920
And, you know, nothing really deep dive,

629
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,840
just showing the uniqueness that in Christianity is unique,

630
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,680
right?

631
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,880
All of the religions say that you are God,

632
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,200
you gotta become God, you gotta work your way to God.

633
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,360
None of them have a cross, right?

634
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,800
Christianity is unique, I kid you.

635
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,560
So I get done with that sermon.

636
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000
And the next thing, you know, I get a phone call

637
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,200
from one of the pillars of the church, their wives,

638
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,920
and said that quote, he so and so was upset

639
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,760
with what I preached on.

640
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,600
I said, well, why?

641
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,280
What was unbiblical about it?

642
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,720
And went on and on and said,

643
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,200
well, I think you just need to meet with them.

644
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000
So I drove out to his house and he was a big guy

645
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,160
and he looked down on me the whole time.

646
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800
And he's like a six foot six big old dude.

647
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,520
And he said, well, I don't think you should be talking

648
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200
about other religions like that.

649
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,280
I said, well, why not?

650
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,360
Well, I just don't think it's right.

651
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,080
I don't, you know, it shouldn't do that.

652
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,440
I said, well, wait a second.

653
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,280
If in fact, Jesus is the only way,

654
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,200
I didn't say he did, John 14.6,

655
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080
he's the way, the truth, the life.

656
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,400
No one comes to the Father except by me.

657
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240
And that means every other path out there is a false path.

658
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,000
And it's not a small issue.

659
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840
It's not just, oh, they didn't make it to heaven.

660
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,160
No, the Bible's clear.

661
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,520
If you don't go through Jesus, you go to hell.

662
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,360
So how am I a loving Christian, Mr. So-and-so?

663
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,440
If I don't tell people that all other paths are false

664
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,440
that will lead you to hell.

665
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,600
And if I don't share them the good news

666
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,240
that it is through Jesus Christ

667
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,720
and you can know for sure that you're on your way

668
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,840
to heaven through him.

669
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,960
And he just went round and round.

670
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960
Of course, of course, I'm dealing with it biblically, right?

671
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,840
And went round and round.

672
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,320
And so he was getting nowhere.

673
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,720
And so I kid you not, John,

674
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,360
he looked down at me and he said,

675
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:52,560
and he pointed his finger in my face.

676
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,360
He says, listen, I've seen a lot of you come

677
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:55,480
and a lot of you go.

678
00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,560
Turns out the guys are Freemason in the church.

679
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760
I don't think he was the only one.

680
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,160
And a pillar in the church,

681
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,720
basically running the church behind the scenes.

682
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240
And the reason why he rejected that

683
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,640
is because this is one of the many, many false,

684
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,560
unbiblical teachings of Freemasonry

685
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600
that people need to wake up to.

686
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
They believe in a pluralistic deity.

687
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,400
They believe in universalism

688
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720
that all paths will eventually get you.

689
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,560
They don't call it heaven.

690
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,320
They call it the grand lodge in the sky.

691
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,760
It's a works-based false gospel.

692
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,000
No different than trying to earn your way to heaven

693
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,480
as a Mormon or Jehovah's Witnesses

694
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,120
or all those other classic ones that we say,

695
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,040
oh yeah, yeah, that's obviously works-based false gospel.

696
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Freemasonry is the same way.

697
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,360
That you have to be a good Mason.

698
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,640
You have to follow the teachings of Masonry

699
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,600
and do good things.

700
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840
All these guys, you think about Shriners,

701
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,800
Shriners hospitals and all that stuff.

702
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,200
You think, oh, these are so altruistic.

703
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,680
No, they're doing that because they believe

704
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520
they have to do these good deeds

705
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,600
in order to get to the grand lodge above.

706
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,600
And then speaking of Shriners,

707
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,440
see there's many different branches of Freemasonry.

708
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,360
Just like, and I use this loosely,

709
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,360
just like there's many different denominations

710
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,680
of Christianity, there's many different branches

711
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,120
of Freemasonry, right?

712
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,240
You got your Scottish Rite,

713
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320
and these are just the ones in America.

714
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,840
You got your York Rite,

715
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,880
which eventually you can get into the Knights Templar.

716
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,280
And then you got your Prince Hall.

717
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000
That's for the Black African community, Freemasonry.

718
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,560
You got Ladies Freemasonry, Youth Freemasonry.

719
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,960
But you also have the Shriners.

720
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480
And the Shriners, the interesting thing about Shriners

721
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,360
is at one point as a Shriner, you have to,

722
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,960
and this is in print, it's on video,

723
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,440
it's not a conspiracy theory.

724
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,360
You have to pledge obedience and allegiance

725
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:46,360
to the God of Islam, Allah, and Muhammad as your prophet.

726
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:51,280
That's why they wear those red hats called a Fez.

727
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560
The Fez, if you notice, has what on the front?

728
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Islamic swords or crescent, it's exactly,

729
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680
it's Islamic symbols.

730
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,880
And the reason why they're red, and they're called a Fez,

731
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,440
is because that was symbolic of a victory

732
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,520
of the Muslims slaughtering Christians in Fez, Morocco,

733
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,080
and they dipped their hats in the Christians blood.

734
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,560
How can you be a Christian

735
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,640
and be a part of something like this is beyond me.

736
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,120
But this is what we expose.

737
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:23,960
I'll give you another one.

738
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,560
A lot of people say, they try to give people

739
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,400
a benefit of that.

740
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,560
Well, yeah, I get it.

741
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,080
When you get up into the different degrees,

742
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,080
you know, upwards, you know,

743
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,000
you wanna make it to the 32nd, 33rd degree,

744
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,320
up to the very top, that's when they drop the bomb on you

745
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960
that the spirit they're really worshiping is Lucifer.

746
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,720
No, you find out a lot earlier than that.

747
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,320
That's Miss Nomer number one.

748
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,840
But people say, well, they just went through

749
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,280
the first three degrees.

750
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360
And they just thought, you know, this is a good old boys' club.

751
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,760
They do good works for the community.

752
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,600
And the way they suck people in is they will say,

753
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
hey man, you come, you know, and you gotta be invited.

754
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,360
They'll tap you on the shoulder,

755
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,400
including in the church service,

756
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,240
and say, hey, would you like to come to the lodge?

757
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040
And so, but then they say, you know,

758
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,120
we'll help you with your business,

759
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,680
we'll help you with this or that or whatever.

760
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,640
And they do.

761
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,320
And so people think, oh, it's just a good boys' club.

762
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360
It's good for business and whatever.

763
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,520
But people say, well, they only went through

764
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,360
the first three degrees.

765
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,720
They don't know about all this other Luciferian stuff

766
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200
that's going on.

767
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,120
That's not true.

768
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,200
That's a huge Miss Nomer.

769
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,400
I couldn't wait to expose that one.

770
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Because the first three degrees that you have to take,

771
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
and this is their words, not mine, bloody oaths, right?

772
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,480
And let's just deal with the first degree.

773
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,080
We only got to the third one.

774
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,120
The third one's what's called a master mason, right?

775
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,680
But this is the the the, uh, insert apprentice.

776
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,320
So you just, you're just starting out.

777
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,400
You tell me, John, if you're a Christian,

778
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,480
a true born again Christian,

779
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,640
and do all the Holy Spirit,

780
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880
that at some point the Holy Spirit's not going to be screaming

781
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,680
at you to run, right?

782
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880
So here it is, you get into the lodge

783
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840
and the first thing they do is they blindfold you.

784
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,560
It's called a hoodwink.

785
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,520
So as in you get hoodwinked.

786
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,440
That's where we get that term from.

787
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,080
It's a Freemason term.

788
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,240
So they blindfold you.

789
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,160
And part of that is because you have to acknowledge

790
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,680
that everything that you've known in life so far

791
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,240
is darkness and now you're coming into the light,

792
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,160
the truth of Freemasonry.

793
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Well, wait a second.

794
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,600
How can I profess that as a Christian?

795
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,400
I've got the light of Jesus Christ.

796
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,960
How can I, how can I walk away from that

797
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,320
and say that that's darkness?

798
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,680
But you would think the Holy Spirit would cause you to run

799
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120
at that point, or you're just getting started.

800
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Then they, you got to take your shirt off.

801
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,200
Okay, that's weird.

802
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,600
And then you got to all before, you got to bow before

803
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960
an altar, okay?

804
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Before a guy called the worshipful master.

805
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Excuse me, I don't bow before anybody.

806
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Then the one and only master,

807
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720
the king of kings, the Lord of lords, Jesus Christ.

808
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280
So what are you doing bowing before man?

809
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Then here comes your bloody oath.

810
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,920
And you are bound before this worshipful master

811
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,960
before an altar.

812
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,600
They have a typically a sword at your chest

813
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,320
and you vow that you will never reveal the secrets

814
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
of free masonry and what you are about to be taught

815
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920
and initiated into under the penalty of,

816
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,680
and you have to walk it through with them,

817
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,640
with your thumb, throat to throat,

818
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
that you can cut my throat from ear to ear,

819
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
cut out my tongue and disembowel me.

820
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,880
And you're supposed to be a Christian?

821
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,280
John, that's just a first degree.

822
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Oh yeah, we haven't made it to 33 or none of that stuff

823
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,720
that you learn along the way.

824
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,560
In the seventh degree, you learn that they worship

825
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,880
a plural God called Jabulan, right?

826
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Which includes Baal and the Egyptian God Osiris.

827
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,480
Oh, when you get to the 17th degree,

828
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960
then they say, we've got the secret password

829
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,160
to get you into eternity.

830
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,000
I'm not making this up.

831
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,000
You know what it is?

832
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,200
I'll tell you the secret.

833
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,800
The secret password is Abaddon.

834
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Wait a second, Abaddon, that's the name

835
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080
that you see of the destroyer

836
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,360
and that came out of the Abusas,

837
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,920
the pit of hell that's unleashed on the planet

838
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
in the seven year tribulation.

839
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,560
And so that's the name that's gonna get me

840
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,600
to the Grand Lodge above, I gotta say Abaddon.

841
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,520
No, and you know what the sad thing is?

842
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,960
John, for every person who thinks that when they die

843
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,560
and then they're gonna say the word Abaddon,

844
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,920
you know what's gonna happen?

845
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Yeah, you're not going to heaven.

846
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240
You will see the destroyer.

847
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520
You know what, it's just, and John on and on it goes.

848
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,480
And this is not a conspiracy.

849
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,920
And here's what's scary.

850
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
I expect that from the world.

851
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,480
I don't condone it, but that's what the enemy's been doing

852
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,160
ever since the birth of Christianity Acts chapter two.

853
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Jesus Christ is the only way out of this mess.

854
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,520
And so what has he been doing?

855
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Ever since then, he's inventing

856
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,960
as many different false paths as he can,

857
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240
different religions, new religions, latest religion,

858
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,600
this, right?

859
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,960
And just to cloud the issue,

860
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,680
to hopefully get people off the one

861
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,080
and only way out of this mess.

862
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Freemasonry is just another one.

863
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600
And I, but I expect that from the world.

864
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,440
They don't know better.

865
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,000
They don't know Christ.

866
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,120
They don't have the Bible.

867
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,600
They're not born again.

868
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,600
The Bible says that the mind of the unspiritual man

869
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
cannot understand the spiritual things.

870
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,040
I get that.

871
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,920
John, what's alarming to me is this is in the church.

872
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,120
And I share in this study over and over again,

873
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Freemasonry is allowed to do the rituals

874
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560
that are completely unbiblical in church services,

875
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,880
to do their funerals and services.

876
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Much of the church board are Freemasons,

877
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760
including pastors and things that nature.

878
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,960
And I'm going, and John, we're just scraping the surface.

879
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360
So what goes on in this occult secret society,

880
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,280
how can you be a Christian and allow this to happen?

881
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,520
And so my thing is this,

882
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,480
if you got these guys in charge of church,

883
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,920
you need to rise up as a church

884
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,480
and I'll just be blunt, you need to fire them.

885
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,280
They need to, and I tell people this all the time,

886
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,920
if you're professing to be a Christian,

887
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000
you better repent, run and get right with God.

888
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,800
And if you refuse to leave, you're in a heap of trouble.

889
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,240
Yeah, Pastor Billy, I gotta ask you,

890
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,600
if people are sworn to secrecy under basically

891
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360
vow of cutting off their throat,

892
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,760
cutting off their tongue and disemboweling them,

893
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,560
how are you getting this information?

894
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,520
Well, part of it is the Freemasons

895
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,320
who've been brave enough to come out.

896
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,200
They get saved and then they come out

897
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,640
and expose them and that's why we know.

898
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,760
In fact, what's interesting was due to modern technology

899
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,600
because a lot of people say,

900
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,480
oh, that's not what they do in there.

901
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,600
The lodge that I went to, it's Christian

902
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440
because they had a Bible on that altar.

903
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,240
First of all, just because they have a Bible

904
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:36,120
doesn't mean they follow it.

905
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Second of all, oftentimes their Bible,

906
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,760
for instance, the Oxford Freemason Bible,

907
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,880
at the back end has all this Egyptian symbolism and stuff

908
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,440
because that's what they merge them with their belief system.

909
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,000
That's not our Bible.

910
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,080
And then third, they're pluralistic.

911
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,240
You can go in there one week

912
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,760
and it might be the Christian Bible,

913
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,880
but then other week it might be the Hindu Vedas

914
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,520
or it might be the Quran.

915
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,320
Because again, they believe that whatever path you choose,

916
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400
you just gotta believe in a Supreme being, right?

917
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,600
Doesn't have to be the one of the Bible.

918
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,480
So just because they have that, that doesn't mean anything.

919
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,720
But the problem is, they go into there

920
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:17,720
and they think that it's just not really that big.

921
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,360
You're exaggerating this.

922
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,200
This is just, you got this on wackyguy.org

923
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840
or conspiracyguy.com.

924
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,000
No, modern technology.

925
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160
We were able to get actual footage

926
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200
with a guy who snuck in there with his phone

927
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,000
and recorded the rituals, John.

928
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,440
We got it on tape, man.

929
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,720
This is not a joke.

930
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,560
It's not a game.

931
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,280
This is really what's going on.

932
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,320
And so it's basically Freemasons who've come out.

933
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Most of them, God say, praise God,

934
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,160
but they're revealing to people

935
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,840
what is really going on behind closed doors.

936
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,200
And the reason why they get away with it is twofold.

937
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,760
Number one, hello, it's a secret society.

938
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,800
My definition is secret.

939
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,640
So they're not touting it from the horns.

940
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880
So we only can rely upon those that can sneak in

941
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
and get it back to us or those that were a part of it

942
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
and got saved and come out and spill the beans.

943
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Yeah.

944
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040
So there's a lot of questions I have on that.

945
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,120
And I know we can spend a lot of time debating this,

946
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920
but what influence do they have in society,

947
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,760
or not debating it,

948
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,200
I don't want to debate anything like that.

949
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,440
I just want to learn more about it,

950
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,880
but what influence does this have in society as a whole?

951
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,880
I know Washington, DC is filled with the symbology of that.

952
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,480
And what do we as Christians do about this?

953
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,720
Well, great question.

954
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,560
That's how we actually ended our study

955
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,680
on the last three studies.

956
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,120
We dealt with, all right, where are these guys at?

957
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,720
And how are they getting away with this?

958
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,840
And so I just broke it down into many different categories.

959
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,920
You got free masonry throughout Hollywood, right?

960
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Probably one of the best advertisements that they've had

961
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,040
to recruit people in a long time

962
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,720
was the National Treasure series, huge.

963
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,080
Disney just did a reboot with that

964
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,800
with a modern millennial version, right?

965
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,120
But it just encourages people to,

966
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,800
oh, this is a cool eclectic society, no.

967
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,920
And so Hollywood's in it, music industry is in it,

968
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,800
we expose that, especially because we had the two studies

969
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080
just on the symbolism in free masonry,

970
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,560
explaining what those symbols mean.

971
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,600
And then when you see what symbols are in free masonry,

972
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,840
you see them everywhere,

973
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Hollywood, the music industry, the whole nine yards.

974
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400
They tell you who they're working for.

975
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,400
But I got into the politics,

976
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,000
past presidents of our country,

977
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,120
indisputable, full on free masonry.

978
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,320
And again, the danger with this is you're talking about

979
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,960
people that were also on our Supreme courts,

980
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,040
judges and things of that nature.

981
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,560
And Jong, you gotta keep in mind that, again,

982
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,520
when a person becomes a free mason,

983
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,520
they pledge their allegiance, number one, solely,

984
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,920
to free masonry.

985
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,880
And that means it comes first.

986
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,280
And you pledge yourself to quote,

987
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,240
protecting the brotherhood, other free masons.

988
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,480
And this goes back to their secret hand signals,

989
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600
hand signs, hand in the vest,

990
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,640
stand square, the particular stances and things,

991
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,200
secret handshakes on the knuckle and all that stuff.

992
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,720
It's not a conspiracy theory.

993
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,360
This is how they identify themselves out in public

994
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
in secret, because this is a secret society.

995
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,920
So I'll give you a case in point.

996
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,600
We demonstrated this still goes on.

997
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Have you ever wondered, you got some people

998
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,480
that do these dirty deeds, these horrible crimes,

999
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,120
and you're going, that guy's going,

1000
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,640
he's going up river for a long time.

1001
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Next thing you know, he gets off the hook.

1002
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,440
What's going on there?

1003
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Jong, this is how the system works.

1004
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,320
Free masonry, their beliefs is supersedes everything,

1005
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920
including the constitution, the bill of rights,

1006
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,520
and the law of the land.

1007
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,520
So give you a case in point.

1008
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
If you had a freemason judge,

1009
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520
and then you were a freemason who's been brought to court,

1010
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,520
you don't have to say a word.

1011
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,520
You give them the sign, you give them the distress signal,

1012
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,520
the way that you stand, right?

1013
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,520
And then he is bound by the bloody oaths of freemasonry.

1014
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520
He has to do everything in his power

1015
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,520
to let that brother go.

1016
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,520
This is the danger of this stuff.

1017
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,520
So our laws and our country think they're being perverted

1018
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,520
with these guys.

1019
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Plus their agenda is not God's agenda.

1020
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Their agenda is not what our founding fathers had

1021
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,520
with the biblical Judeo-Christian ethic and things of that nature.

1022
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,520
So there's a conflict that's going on.

1023
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,520
But again, we expose how they've warmed their way in

1024
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520
even into the military and things of that nature.

1025
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,520
I already mentioned women's groups, youth groups, whatever,

1026
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,520
but they're all over.

1027
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,520
And so the biggest thing is, how can you say,

1028
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,520
well, what do we do?

1029
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,520
Well, we get the truth out, right?

1030
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520
As Paul says, it's referring to the gospel.

1031
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,520
How beautiful are the feet of those that bring the good news, right?

1032
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520
How can they know unless somebody tells them?

1033
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Well, how can people know what they're up against

1034
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520
in order to fight this battle?

1035
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,520
If you don't even know you're in the battle at first place,

1036
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,520
and second of all, who am I battling against?

1037
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520
And then third, where are they at?

1038
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,520
And so it's the truth, John.

1039
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,520
We get the truth out.

1040
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,520
We expose the dirty deeds of darkness, right?

1041
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520
And so that people could wake up and go like,

1042
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,520
oh, I had no clue that that's what Freemasonry is, teaches,

1043
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
how antithetical it is to everything as a Christian.

1044
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Whoa, I didn't know that it was not just on the outside.

1045
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Whoa, now I can see it's on the inside of the church

1046
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,520
so you can clean the church up, number one.

1047
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Number two, then it's on the outside.

1048
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Oh, then we need to clean up what's going on in our country.

1049
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,520
And that's how you do it.

1050
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,520
John, there's more of us than there is them,

1051
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,520
but they get away with it because people, again,

1052
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520
back to the beginning, they don't want to study the whole of the Bible.

1053
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Now you say that as a Christian because you're supposed to say that.

1054
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,520
That sounds spiritual, right?

1055
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,520
You don't say, hey, I'm only going to study what I want to hear, right?

1056
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Which actually is a Bible prophecy sign real quick.

1057
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Paul told Timothy, he says, how do you know your last days?

1058
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Hey, don't just look at Matthew 24.

1059
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,520
Jesus said, you're going to see false Christ, false prophets,

1060
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,520
false teachers, wars, rumors of wars, families, pestilence,

1061
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,520
increase of all that stuff, earthquakes.

1062
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,520
And we're seeing that.

1063
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Paul says, watch this, when you see this in the church in the last days,

1064
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:34,520
he said the church is going to gather around themselves a plethora.

1065
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,520
It's in the Greek, it's a pile, a pile of teachers who will tickle their ears

1066
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520
and they'll turn away from the truth and they'll turn aside to myths.

1067
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,520
And I'm going like tickle your ears.

1068
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,520
What's that?

1069
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,520
So I looked it up in the Greek way back and it's Keneppo and it means

1070
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520
to desire only that which is pleasant.

1071
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,520
And Muthas is where we get the word myth or like stories made up.

1072
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520
So basically Paul says, yeah, look in the world when you see wars,

1073
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,520
rumors of world, Jesus saying this, families, pestilence, increase.

1074
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520
That's a sign you're in the last days.

1075
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520
But Paul says, now, don't just look at the world, look at the church.

1076
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,520
And when you see in the church, basically all you get is pleasant things

1077
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,520
and stories made up, you're in the last days.

1078
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
So this is what's going on.

1079
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
The people don't, they're being duped.

1080
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,520
They're not being taught the whole counsel of God.

1081
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,520
So they don't even know what to look for.

1082
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,520
What do you do?

1083
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520
You preach the truth, right?

1084
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,520
And to say this, this is the light, John, right?

1085
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,520
And you want to get rid of the darkness?

1086
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
You bring on the light.

1087
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520
You teach the truth, which is the light of Christ.

1088
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,520
And then each individual Christian goes and shares the light of that truth.

1089
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,520
That's how you dispel darkness.

1090
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,520
You go into a dark room.

1091
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,520
It's a dark room.

1092
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Well, oh no, I'm just going to sit there and go like, I can't get rid of this.

1093
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,520
I'm clueless.

1094
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,520
I have no idea what to, what do I do?

1095
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Go turn the light on.

1096
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,520
And you don't just turn the light on as soon as you turn the light on,

1097
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,520
what happens to the darkness?

1098
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,520
It goes away.

1099
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,520
It goes away.

1100
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,520
That's what we need to get back to as Christians, to preach the whole counsel of God,

1101
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,520
get Christians equipped on the light of Jesus Christ,

1102
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,520
get out there and be the salt and the light.

1103
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Okay.

1104
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,520
And then we would see all this darkness flee that fast.

1105
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,520
That's it. I'm not trying to oversimplify, but John, that's the answer right there.

1106
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,520
You expose it with the light of the truth of God's word and instantly the darkness flees.

1107
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,520
Wow.

1108
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Pastor Billy, would you pray for the people that have been watching this and they're like,

1109
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:34,520
I need to do something based on what Pastor Billy has said and just help them could just pray for them to have discernment that's a turn that light on.

1110
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Yeah.

1111
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Father, we just thank you so much for our time today.

1112
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520
We thank you most importantly for Jesus.

1113
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,520
Thank you for saving us through him, giving us the gift of eternal life through him.

1114
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,520
And God, if there's anybody that's tuning in, that's not truly born again.

1115
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Maybe they're going to a church service, but that doesn't save you.

1116
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Or maybe they were like me, would never step foot in a church service, but they're interested and they want to know the truth.

1117
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,520
And maybe you're tugging at their heart.

1118
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:05,520
God, would you cause them to be obedient and be blessed even right where they're at God right now that they would cry out to you, Jesus and ask you to forgive another sins.

1119
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:15,520
You tell us that you are holy that we are not, but the good news is through Jesus Christ, we can be saved and forgiven completely of all of our sins and made into a new creation in you.

1120
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520
God, would you please draw them to you?

1121
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,520
May that take place even now.

1122
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,520
And God, for we your church, those of us that are born again, maybe we've been one of those lackadaisical Christians.

1123
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Maybe we were the ones that only wanted our ears tickled, but we're starting to be convicted to realize, no, we need to know all the truth.

1124
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:40,520
And the problem isn't with the darkness encroaching, the problem is with us not declaring your light.

1125
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:52,520
So God raises up in these last days as a mighty equipped army in the light of your truth that we would work together as your people and dispel back the darkness until you come home and get us.

1126
00:44:52,520 --> 00:45:01,520
That's how we need to finish, finish strong, not fearful, finish faithful as the bride of Christ until that glorious day, which could happen very soon.

1127
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,520
When we get to go be with you forever.

1128
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,520
But God, please do a great work.

1129
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,520
It's not by chance that people are watching and listening.

1130
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,520
And so God, please bear much fruit, which we know is your will.

1131
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520
We ask all this in your powerful name in Jesus name.

1132
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Amen.

1133
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,520
Amen.

1134
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Pastor Billy Crone, I know that we're going to have to do more discussions with you about spiritual warfare, about the demonic in society.

1135
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,520
And I see a book behind you about aliens even so there's more that we can talk about.

1136
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Yeah.

1137
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,520
But I just appreciate you taking this time today to do what we've done so far.

1138
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
So thank you so much for being here on Charisma.

1139
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Yeah.

1140
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Hey anytime, John.

1141
00:45:42,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Thank you.