How Isaiah Saldivar’s Radical Encounter Sparked a Global Deliverance Revival

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How do you preach 52 weeks out of the year and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere?

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We're in a deliverance revival right now.

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And this is because for the first time in history, social media is a thing.

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Now you have a church over here that rejects it, refused to talk about it.

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Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online.

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And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative.

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They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church.

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Isaiah Saldivar, it's great to have you here on Charisma.

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And this book, it's great to have you part of the Charisma author family, How to Cast Out Demons.

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And let's just right on the front of this, you say this is everything that you need to know about deliverance.

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That's a that's a big claim, Isaiah. Let's talk about that.

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This is everything you need to know.

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How did you come to know everything that some people need to know?

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Yeah, so my journey with deliverance kind of and it is a bold claim.

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When I decided to come with that title, they said one of the people I won't say who at Christmas said,

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you got to make sure you add everything if you're going to put everything you need to know.

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And I think when people get the book, they'll realize every question they've had on deliverance, we try to find an answer to.

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But for me, it started with 13 years ago, I was actually an atheist.

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I didn't believe in God. I was raised in church, but just did not believe.

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Just got hard hearted, bitter, angry, everything you can think of.

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And then my little sister begged me for about six months to go to church.

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I told my girlfriend at the time, we're just going to go one time, get her off our back.

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I'll never go again. And I had not been in three years up until this point.

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So I'm about to turn 20 years old.

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I graduated high school at 16. I graduated college at 19.

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I was like the golden child doing everything right in the world's eyes.

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Yet spiritually, I was completely dead.

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And so I go to this church and the pastor's preaching about world missions and I was just not moved at all.

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And then during the altar, he's like, if you want to come forward and give your life to Christ.

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I wasn't planning to go forward, but I literally felt something pulling on my shirt.

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I ended up going to that altar. And in so many words, I said, God.

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And I said a cuss word, I don't believe in you, but if you're real.

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And then I started saying, I'll give you everything, which I don't even know why I was saying this at the time.

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But inwardly, I so badly wanted there to be a God.

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I said, I'll move out of state. I'll break up my girlfriend.

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I'll leave my job because I was getting hired as a deputy sheriff.

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I'll leave my job in law enforcement. I'll travel wherever you want me to go.

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And I just started making all these bold claims that if God was real, I'd do this.

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In that very moment, I hear an audible voice.

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I'm not full of the Holy Spirit at the time. I was full of the devil.

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And I heard an audible voice from above saying, Isaiah, I don't want 99.9 percent of you.

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I want everything. Give me your life.

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And in that, I went into some type of out of body experience where I was just seeing all these bright lights.

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And I was seeing myself preaching before millions of people.

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I was hearing the Lord talk to me about what he wanted me to do.

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I go from that to coming back to my body and literal dirt was coming out of my eyes.

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And at that time, I had not cried up until for 10 years up until that point.

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I'm crying like a baby. So that's shocking me because I haven't cried in 10 years.

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I was just so hard hearted. I'm speaking in this language that I don't even know what I'm saying.

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I didn't know about tongues because the church I was raised in didn't talk about tongues.

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The only time I ever heard tongues in my entire life was at five years old.

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I heard my parents praying in tongues one time. So here I am now.

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I'm speaking this language. I'm crying like a baby. Dirt's coming out of my eyes, literal dirt.

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I'm having this crazy experience. The pastor gets on stage.

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There's 500 young people at the altar. It's a big mega church.

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And the pastor says, there's a young man in here right now and the Lord's removing the dirty scales from your eyes.

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And I'm just made me cry even more. And I have this crazy experience. Long story short,

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I don't sleep for three days. I don't eat for two weeks. I literally went from death to life.

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I went from cussing every other word to 13 years later, I haven't said a word.

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I went from drinking every day to 13 years later, I haven't drank.

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I went from pornography every day, sleeping around, everything you could think of,

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to being living a clean life ever since that moment. I put my faith in Jesus. I realized my life.

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I was a sinner. In that moment, I realized everything I was doing, the parties,

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the drinking, the girls was wrong. I felt filthy. And I put my faith in the cross and was born again that moment.

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So that led into a revival broke out of my house. And this will all go into deliverance here.

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Give me like one more Pentecostal minute. A revival broke out of my house. My family got saved.

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My friends got saved. Literally everyone in my family, aunts, cousins, uncles came.

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It felt like everybody I knew got saved in my living room.

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We were having three to four hundred people come every week to my living room.

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We were seeing people get out of wheelchairs. I had an aunt that was born deaf get healed.

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I had a cousin that was deaf get healed. I saw people that never walked walk again.

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And that led to a lot of my friends I was partying with were coming to my living room for this revival meeting.

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And they were manifesting demons. They would literally walk in my living room and start growling, screaming, blaspheming God,

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slithering on the ground. And I was sitting there going, I partied with that guy last week.

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And now he's on my floor, slithering like a snake. So I realized like this is spiritual.

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There's a spiritual realm. My uncle, who's in ministry for 30 years, knew about all of this.

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And I said, could we do this stuff? Like the Bible shows deliverance. Jesus cast out demons everywhere.

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And I didn't have this religious mindset at the time. I just thought, hey, Jesus did it.

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His disciples did it. The Book of Acts did it. We're disciples.

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Could we do this? And my uncle, who had been in ministry for 30 years, says that he had in that moment, had to decide,

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am I going to spiritually neuter them and tell them this isn't for today?

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Or am I going to tell them absolutely everything in the Bible you can do?

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And my uncle said, miho was what, you know, we're Hispanic. He said miho, everything in the Bible you can do.

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You can cast out demons. You can lay hands on the sick. You can preach the gospel.

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And that turned into us literally doing deliverance almost every single day on one of our family,

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one of our friends. And that led me into deliverance.

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And then now, 13 years later, finally have a lot of those early stories and early things in a book form

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when the Lord basically said it's time now to create a manual, make it easy for people, make it practical.

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I made a joke and said, if you're looking for a book where it's like Jezebel, Leviathan, all of that, that is not this book.

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This is a practical guide where any person can pick it up and understand how to cast out demons.

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In the book, I talk about things like how people get demons, all of the stories of Jesus casting out demons,

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signs you have a demon, items you might have in your home that open you to demons.

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I give like a seven step method. I talk about stubborn demons, how to keep the demons out.

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So literally everything you need to know is all there in the book.

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But hopefully it could be a practical guide for people that want to get involved in deliverance ministry,

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because I firmly believe scripture tells us every person is called to drive out demons.

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It's not just for the select few, John, it's for every single disciple of Jesus Christ.

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They shall cast out demons. So I'm super convicted about that.

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Yeah, I can tell you. And you're passionate about this.

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And I love the fact that you have been going online for several years now and you're seeing deliverance happening digitally.

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And I just got to say, like society is talking about demons more than the church, it seems.

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I mean, just recently, Tucker Carlson says that he was physically attacked by a demon and it left bloody claw marks on him,

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which then led him to really reading the Bible and searching and for like the last year and a half or so,

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which hearing that testimony was was wild.

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And then there's celebrities that are openly claiming that they are operating in the demonic.

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But the church just isn't even talking about it.

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I mean, you do a lot of videos and reactions to things that are happening in our culture and our world.

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Let's talk about the culture. But also, before we get into that, why isn't the church talking about demonic deliverance?

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So there's a saying that ignorance is bliss is only said by the ignorant.

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And I think when we say the word ignorant, it sounds mean.

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You're like, why would you call the church ignorant? The word ignorant is not a mean word.

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It means you just don't know. You just don't know something.

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And for a while, I was frustrated at the state of the church and the pastors like, why, Lord, why don't they do this?

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Why aren't they talking about the Lord's like, Isaiah, they're just ignorant.

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They just don't know. They've never learned about it.

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They don't believe it. And so I think that's where the church is at because we haven't seen it.

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We haven't been taught about it. We're ignorant to it.

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But the problem is you can't read the Gospels and say that this isn't happening because it happened all throughout scripture.

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And what the Lord's been showing me even this week was Isaiah, you're not pointing people to something new.

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There's nothing new. There's nothing we're pointing to.

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There's no new doctrine in the book. You're not going to find like a new revelation.

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You're actually pointing people back. The Lord's been showing me to ancient paths, to what the Lord did.

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But this is not a new teaching. This is an ancient teaching that's been forgotten about,

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that's been lied about, that's been rejected, that's been put in the corner somewhere that people are afraid of.

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But the bottom line is now we're at a place where the devil is hidden in plain sight.

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And that means he's out in the open now. He's trying to hide, but he's in plain view where like every Grammy show,

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every celebrity event, every, we already know if there's a Grammy's, there's going to be a bunch of demonic stuff happening on stage.

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We already know if it's a Super Bowl halftime show, a bunch of demonic stuff on stage.

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Any big platform the world has, it's always demonic. It's always dark now.

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And that wasn't the case 50 years ago.

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So I feel like the devil's really taking the gloves off. He's not ashamed anymore.

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So my thing is if the devil's not ashamed, if he's unapologetic, we need to be unashamed.

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We need to be unapologetic. He's not apologizing for demonizing our kids.

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So we shouldn't apologize for delivering our kids.

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He's not apologizing for wrecking our families with pornography and divorce and anger and the new age.

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We shouldn't apologize for setting the captives free, for seeing deliverance, for seeing miracles.

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So yeah, we're at a time where the world is actually open to talking about these things.

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And there's a biblical way to do it. It's all through the scripture.

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We look at like Mark 1 39, Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting of demons.

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We look at Matthew chapter 10, he told the 12 disciples, go cast out demons.

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He didn't ask them, John, he didn't say, if you feel like it, if you want to, that was the commission.

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Then in Luke 10, he tells the 72, go cast out demons.

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And then in Acts chapter eight, we see Philip, the only named evangelist in Scripture.

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What is he doing at his first crusade? He's casting out demons and healing the sick.

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So this is inevitable through scripture. You can't avoid this.

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As his disciples, I want to make it very basic.

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If I'm his disciple, I'm his representative.

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Second Corinthians five says we are Christ's ambassadors.

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So I look at Jesus and I go, OK, very simply, what did he do?

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He healed the sick, he cast out demons and he preached the gospel.

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Those are the three things he did. Like this is objective.

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Those are the three things he did.

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So as his ambassador, as his follower, as his disciple, John 14 12, he says,

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you're going to do the same works I've done and even greater is now I'm going to the father.

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Wouldn't it make sense, John, that we as his disciples are called to do the same works?

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Not only that Jesus did, but the disciples did, the early church did.

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And that includes casting out demons.

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That includes healing the sick. That includes preaching the gospel.

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Every single person watching this right now has a friend or family.

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And this is no debate to this.

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You have a friend or family that needs deliverance.

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And you can't just say, I'm going to bring them to Isaiah,

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sell the verse, deliverance of it. I'm going to bring them to my pastor.

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No, you're called to set the cap. This free Mark 16.

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The first sign of being a believer is these signs will follow in my name.

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They'll drive out demons like imagine, John, that's the first telltale sign.

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You meet somebody on the street, you're like, oh, you're a believer?

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Yeah. Oh, me too. Oh, so you cast out demons like that would be crazy.

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People would look at you like you're nuts.

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Yet in the book of in the Bible, in the book of Mark, it says that'll be the first sign

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of a believer is they will cast out demons.

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But I think it's essential that we do that.

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The world deserves it. The world needs it.

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The church needs that our friends and family need it.

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We really need compassion. We need to be heartbroken over the state of society.

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I refuse to believe that we are the most depressed generation in existence.

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I refuse to stand around while we're the most suicidal generation ever.

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The devil is pouring out a spirit. That's true.

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Just turn on the news, turn on the television.

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But the Lord is also pouring out his spirit, which is greater, which is more powerful,

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which has more authority.

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And as his believers, we are we have the same spirit that raised Christ living in us.

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And we're called to do this work. So I believe it's needed now.

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I think this whole book coming out is timely.

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We're in this era, this generation that's hungry for the spiritual realm.

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And we are we're really giving them what they want.

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And that is, tell me what Jesus did.

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Tell me about Jesus. And this is something Jesus did everywhere.

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You know, I'm really loving the fact that, you know, Charisma,

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we've published a number of people's, you know, part of the Demon Slayers group,

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you know, with you and Alexander Pagani and Mike Signorelli and Vlad Savchuk.

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And, you know, depending on, you know, who else might be part of that group.

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But you guys are all friends. You're all in ministry together in some

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in some way, shape or form. Greg Locke.

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And we we love just seeing what the Holy Spirit is doing at this time in history.

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There is a renewed focus on deliverance.

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But that still brings me back to this question of why has the church not paid attention to this?

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Why has the church kind of let this go to the side?

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And it's almost like those are those are the strange people that do deliverance over there.

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You're like, those are the weirdos.

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You know, let's let's take this out of the main service into that back room there.

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And get those people help that way.

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Why is this like let's talk about this a little bit,

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because we are missing something that God tells us that we're supposed to do.

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Yeah, it's the pastor's job. That's a straight up truth.

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The pastor leads the church. The pastor is the one.

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Whatever his vision is, that's the direction of the church.

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If we look at the modern church and say, why is deliverance not happening?

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We have to point to the leaders, the leader.

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We have to point to leaders like if there's a bad policy in the country,

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we don't blame the citizens because we have no power over that.

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We blame the leaders that the citizens elected and go, why are the leaders not doing their job?

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So I look at the pastors and say, it's really their job.

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I've told pastors before, how do you preach 52 weeks out of the year

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and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere?

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I mean, think about that.

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You gave 52 sermons and you somehow skipped over what Jesus did in every single city he went to

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and what the disciples did.

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And so it's necessary as leaders, we're trained and equipped to cast out demons.

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It starts with the leadership and then leads into people.

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Okay, so now we're in a place where you just said it, John,

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we're in a deliverance revival right now.

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And this is because for the first time in history, social media is a thing, right?

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Like 10 years ago, there was no short form content.

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10 years ago, going viral didn't really exist.

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Well, here now you have a church over here that rejects it, refused to talk about it.

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Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online.

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They're not waiting for permission from a local church, which I love the local church.

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I pastored for a decade.

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I'm a part of a local church.

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Mike, Vlad and Pagani are all senior pastors of local churches.

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So I love the local church.

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But here's what you have now, online taking off, going viral.

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And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative.

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They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church.

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So because our videos are getting millions and millions of views,

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the first deliverance video I ever posted on TikTok got 15 million views.

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Wow.

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You can't now avoid the deliverance now because like everybody at my church is asking why we don't do it.

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Everybody at my church is asking why is it happening online?

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They're giving verses.

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It's in the Bible.

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It's theologically sound.

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The pastors have no choice now but to embrace it.

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Just three weeks ago, we were in the Now Arena in Chicago.

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10,000 people gathered.

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And at the very end of the day, we had mass deliverance with 10,000 people packed out arena.

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So it's like you can't ignore anymore what the Lord is doing.

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And it all points back to the cross.

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It all points back to Jesus.

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Isaiah has no power.

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Mike has no power.

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Vlad, Pagani, none of us have power authority.

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All we're doing is pointing people back to Jesus and saying it's in His name that we cast our demons.

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It's in His name that there's power and authority.

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And so now I could tell you pastors that would never invite me, never do deliverance,

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never want anything to do with it, are now starting to do deliverance,

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are now starting to get deliverance.

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I just talked to a guy today who said, my pastors of a large known mega church,

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he literally just told me today, I won't say who, my pastors just went through deliverance.

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So now it's like even these big, big, big churches, our pastors are going through deliverance.

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They're starting to teach it.

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They're bringing people in.

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I've been in some large churches that five years ago, I would have laughed if you said,

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they're going to bring you in to teach on deliverance.

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I would have been like, they would never invite me.

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And now they're inviting me because they're seeing not only is it working,

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the world needs it and the church is hungry for it.

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But now I think we're seeing that ignorance break.

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And of course, the books, the videos online, I have 2200 videos on my channel.

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So like we're teaching people, we're training people, we're going through the Bible.

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And it's waking people up to this truth of what Jesus did.