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Them snakes are sneaky. They are masters of camouflage technology. An 800 pound anaconda
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can slither silently through the trees because it's so stealth. When we get into the fiery
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presence of God, we will start to actually be able to see these demonic serpents.
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We're talking about serpent spirits and there's a lot of times that people just don't understand
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what we're talking about whenever we're talking about serpent spirits and the need for deliverance.
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Um, it sounds a little bit weird. Let's just put it that way. It sounds a little bit weird,
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a little bit crazy, but we need to put verbiage to things and explain things in certain ways
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so that people understand that. So I am super excited about this conversation, Katie. So it's
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a, it's great to have you here on Charisma. Thanks. Thanks, John. Thanks so much. Yeah. Um,
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I'm glad you are braving the waters, so to speak, uh, because it's true. Uh, these things are real
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and the church is ill equipped to come against this level of warfare in this hour, which is
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absolutely swarming every believer. So it's necessary that we understand these things.
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Jesus talked about it. Um, in Luke 10, he said that we've been given authority to trample on
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serpents and scorpions and overall the power of the enemy and nothing shall in any way harm us.
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Now, when he's speaking that he's not talking about just snakes in the natural, because in context,
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right before that, the disciples came back from a missionary trip saying,
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even the demons submitted to us in your name. And Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning from
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the sky. I've given you authority to trample on serpents and scorpions. Now, so in context,
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he's talking about demonic spirits. Now, if you think about it, if he's telling these guys, uh,
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Hey, I've given you authority to trample on these snakes after, right after they said, even the
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demons submitted to us in your name. That means that many of the demonic entities that the disciples
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took on during their missionary journey were demons that came in the form of serpents and
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scorpions. So these are real. They're very hard to see. And that's why many Christians miss them,
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but we need to know about them because Jesus told us in the great commission in Mark 16,
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that we're going to, you know, preach the gospel, baptize the nations. We're going to heal the sick,
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drive out demons, raise the dead and take up serpents. That's called the great commission
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for a reason because it's great in its scope. It is for every single believer, not just for a snake
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hunter like myself. Okay. And that word take up, there is the Greek word Iro. It means to remove
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anything that's attached to anything. So once people begin to understand the activity of these
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demonic serpents, they'll see that they are attached to anything. They are attached to
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people's bank accounts, their money, their family, their marriage. They're breaking up marriages.
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They're causing your body to be sick. They're causing your business to split apart. They're
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causing strife and division in the church. I have scriptures for all these things. I'm not just saying
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a list right now. I have backup scriptures that we don't have time to, you know, expound on right now
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for every claim that I'm making. And many people do not see these serpents because Genesis three
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says that they're the most craftiest beast of the field. Them snakes are sneaky. They have,
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they are masters of camouflage technology, which means that even in the natural, when you see a
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snake and it's very hard to see them, their scales blend in with their surroundings, you know,
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a desert snakes like rattlers, you won't even see them. You'll hear them because their scales match
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the rocks and the sand and every part of the desert scheme. You go into the jungle and 800 pound
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anaconda can slither silently through the trees because it's so stealth. It has so much camouflage
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technology. Its scales blend into the jungle foliage. You won't know it's even there until
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it's already dropped around its prey and squeezed it to death and is squeezing it to death. See,
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these snakes are very, very, uh, camouflage able. And so then they hide themselves on people's
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bodies in their lives without us being able to see them. That's what we have to say in the fiery
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presence of God. When, when Paul, you know, accidentally picked up a serpent on the island
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of Malta while picking up a bundle of sticks, cause it was cold night, they were shipwrecked,
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he was building a fire. He didn't know he had a deadly viper inside that bundle because the
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serpent looked just like one of the sticks. Yeah. But when he threw it on the fire, the heat of the
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fire drove it out of hiding. When we get into the fiery presence of God through fasting, through
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tongues, through, through prayer, through fiery worship, we will start to actually be able to see
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these demonic serpents. Yeah. So we need to have eyes that see these things because it's easy to
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go through life and just not be paying attention. But this forces of darkness that are out there
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are real. They're not just imaginary. It's not just a, a Disney, uh, evil cloud that comes over.
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There is so much real to this that it's actually more real than our physical reality. So we,
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as believers need to be able to stand against that. And I love how you talk about fire and
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how important it is because the fire is what really kind of separates us from that. Can you
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explain about fire and the hedge of protection? Okay. Well, fire. Okay. So think about it. Moses
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grew up in Pharaoh's household. We all know that, uh, in Exodus four, in the amplified classic,
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it says that when Moses was up on the mountain with God and the fiery bush was up there, that,
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the serpent, that the rod became a serpent. And in the, and in the amplified classic, it says that
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that when it became a serpent, it was a symbol of, of the serpent that was on the crown of Pharaoh.
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That symbolized the power of Pharaoh. That's actually in the Bible. Okay. So what does all
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this mean? Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household as a young Prince of Egypt. He was required to
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have the education of Egypt. The Egyptians understood something very important. The more
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educated there, there's civilians that they're, they're people of the nation, the stronger the
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nation would be. So part of the education system that, that was very important to the Egyptians
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was for all Egyptians to learn about the pantheon of God's that Egypt worshiped. Now as a Prince
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of Egypt, he was in Pharaoh's household. He had to learn about the power God that was over the
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palace. The, the Wadjet, the serpent was on the crown of Pharaoh. So that was the reigning,
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the reigning God in Pharaoh's household. So Moses is taught as, as he was growing up to worship the
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snake, to bring offerings to the serpent, to, to learn how to serve the serpent. So then when he
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leaves that household, when you are exposed to that level of occultic activity, that stays with you
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until it gets exposed and healed. Now, look, people say, well, how do you, well, it says in the Bible
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that that serpent in Exodus four, go read in the Amplified Classic is the reigning, reigning power
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in Pharaoh's household. And look at Pharaoh's magicians, their rods turned into snakes
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because they, that was the, that was the reigning God of the household. So their magic was surrounded
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by serpents. So here is Moses. He's in the desert and he sees a bush that's on fire, but does not
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burn. And he says, I'm going to go see this thing. I'm going to go see this thing. This, this, I'm
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going to turn aside and look at it. It goes up. And while he's standing in front of the fiery bush
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that does not burn, God begins to commission Moses to go, you're going to go into Egypt. You're going
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to free my people from the, from the rule of Pharaoh, the snake king, and you're going to go
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to a land that I promised you and take possession of it. So as he's doing this, and I'll even go to
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the chapter because it's so powerful. Moses says in verse one of Exodus four, look, when I go to
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my people, they will not believe me or listen to me. They do not believe that I, that I met with you,
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that you've appeared to me. And the second verse, the Lord doesn't even address his question. He
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says to him, what is that in your hand? And Moses answers the rod. Do we, do we actually believe
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that God doesn't know what's in Moses's hand? The rod, you know, no, what, what, what, what, the reason why
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God is asking that is because he wants to know if Moses knows what he's been carrying around
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for his entire life since Egypt, a snake who is a master of camouflage has been disguising itself
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as a rod. That's why he asked himself, that's why God asked Moses, what's in your hand? He says the
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rod. No, it's not really a rod. Then on the next verse, verse three, he says, now cast it on the
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ground. So when Moses cast that rod on the ground in front of the fiery bush, it says it became what
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it really was. A serpent, the symbol of royal and divine power worn on the crown of Pharaohs. And
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Moses fled from it. See in the fiery presence of God, the fire will drive the snake out of hiding.
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See Paul, let's go back to Paul for a second. He's carrying around a bundle of sticks.
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He doesn't know he's got that serpent in it. He throws it on the fire. The fire drives it out of
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hiding. It bites him, but he shakes it off. He's left unharmed. That's how powerful the fire of
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God is. Now here's the interesting part. When you look up that story, it says that he's carrying a
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bundle of sticks. The word bundle there means a multitude of men. Go look it up. It means a
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multitude of men, meaning the multitude of men are carrying around serpents and they don't know it.
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And here's Moses. He's been carrying around a serpent disguised, camouflage technology,
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as a staff his whole life. And here's God trying to commission him, commissioning him, not trying,
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commissioning him to go and free the Israelites from captivity in Egypt. And what happens, you've
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got to get desnake-ified. You've got to get rid of these serpents you're carrying around before you
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can carry out the commissioning of God. Moses would not be able to free the Israelites.
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From captivity in Egypt, if against the snake king, he would not be able to win the war against
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the snake king if he had a serpent on himself. Because Jesus said in John 14 30, the prince's
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world is coming, but he's nothing in me. That's in common with him. So he has no power over me.
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So Moses couldn't have anything in him that was in common with the Pharaoh, the snake king.
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That way Pharaoh wouldn't have any power over Moses. God had to meet Moses on that mountain.
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On that mountain with a fiery bush. He doesn't just pick, you know, signs out of a hat, like today
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I'll do a rainbow. Tomorrow I'll do snow and hail. Tomorrow I'll do the Red Sea Parting. No, he picked
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specific signs and wonders at specific times for specific reasons. He picked the fiery bush that
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did not burn up on the mountain to meet Moses there so that the fiery bush would drive that snake
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out of hiding that Moses had been carrying around his whole life so that Moses could then pick up
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the rod. Because afterwards, God said, no, pick it up by the tail. That's nuts. You don't pick up a
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snake by the tail. It'll swing around and bite you. But God wanted to show him you didn't have dominion
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over before. That's why you fled from it. That's what the Bible said. Fled from it when it turned
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into a snake, when it turned into what it really was. But now that you're getting healed and
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delivered in the presence of my fire, pick it up by the tail. What did it do? It turned back into
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the rod. But this time it was the real rod of power, the real rod of power that would call down
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plagues upon Egypt and the snake king that would part the Red Sea, that would strike the rock and
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water would come out in the middle of the desert. He then carried the real rod of power. We've got
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to get rid of these snakes that we're carrying so that we're carrying the real rod of power of God
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so that we can truly deliver people from the world. Yeah. So getting rid of these snakes that we're
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carrying. Katie, I got to ask, how did God get rid of the snakes in your life? Can you tell us a
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little bit about that? Revelation, revelation. God just said, you know, he started, he always does the
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same thing with me. I get in the presence for elongated periods of time. And then he starts
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giving me scripture and then he'll give me one scripture and he'll link it to a next scripture.
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Then he'll link it to the next scripture. Then he'll link it to the next scripture until he
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builds this very solid, harmonious doctrine throughout the text to show me this is not just
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this little word here. This is actually a revelatory insight, a teaching that can get people
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freed. So that process, whenever it happens like that for me, that's how all my teachings have been
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birthed, is that it comes to me and I walk it out myself and get free myself. And then I can
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go and then administrate that freedom with the truth of the word to other people. Yeah. So it's
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like some personal stories of how God has brought you through some of those things that you've now
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see that there was a snake or that was a python spirit or something like that. Could you just kind
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of get a little personal? I know you've got a great testimony, so I want to pull a little bit
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of that out of here before we go into more teaching. Yeah. Like I can remember waking up
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up shortly after I first started getting this revelation and I had a indentation in my breast
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about the depth of the tip of my pinky finger, which is pretty deep. It's like that deep.
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And so I was like, what is this, Scott? And he said, I want you to soak in fire and I'll show
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you. I was on tour at the time. I spent the night, you know, up singing a fire song and then falling
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asleep and then getting up and singing the fire song, falling asleep and just pressing with fire
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all night long. Finally, I had a vision. I had a vision of a serpent up on its tail with this
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triangular jaw, which means that they're venomous striking at me. And I said, what is that Lord?
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And he goes, that's the snake that's trying to give you breast cancer. So I did what Jesus said to do,
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take up serpents. I prophetically did an act where I pulled that snake off of that area of my body
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and cast it into the abyss, the fiery abyss. And then the Lord says, now take communion
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for the next three days, a lot and command the venom to come out of your body. So I did.
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And I command the venom to come out and I was taking the communion and I taking the communion
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because see, people don't understand when you're taking communion. Okay. The very first prophecy
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about Christ is the seed of the woman will crush the head of the seed of the serpent. See the woman,
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Jesus Christ will curse the head of the seed of the serpent. That's in Genesis three, where the
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serpent is now shipwrecked all of mankind. And when we take communion, we're doing it in remembrance of
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Christ's work on the cross. That's where the crushing took place. So I was taking the communion,
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I was commanding the venom to come out. And for three days I was balled up in my bed in agonizing
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pain because that part, that area of my body was just an agonizing pain. And I thought for a second,
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I just made it mad. I didn't get rid of it. I just made it mad, but that's not what it was.
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On the third day when I got up, I went to the bathroom to take a shower and that indentation
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had fully grown in and filled in the pain. I was feeling was the regeneration of the breast tissue
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being healed and regenerated from that cancer, the venom that the enemy was pumping into my breast.
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So that's just one example. And I see people like, I just came back from a meeting and
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there was a girl that she had a full spinal fusion. Every disc fused to the other disc by metal
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and metal rods in her back. She could only turn this much. And if she turned any more,
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she was in excruciating pain. And the doctor said, if you try to force it and turn more,
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you're going to snap the bars and you're going to have to have surgery to fix it. And so they
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brought her over to me. I prayed for her and she had snakes up and down her spine. And I just pulled
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them all off. Take up serpents. That's what Jesus said. And very quickly she was turning all the way
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around to where I can't even turn as far as her. We call her Elastigirl now. She was turning all
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the way around both ways, leaning all the way back, totally healed. I see that happen all the time.
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I have people check people's spines before I pray for them and they check, okay, it's crooked.
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It goes like this. And then it indents like this. And then I pray for them. I pull the snake up their
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back and the spine literally snaps into place straight, straight as an arrow. Bam. There's
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the spine perfectly aligned with the right curve in it where it's supposed to be straight on the
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front view, everything. This is real. And I have seen massive, massive, massive miracles of every
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kind from this revelation.