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Is time travel real?
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Is the prophetic real?
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Are these two things connected?
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This is something that we're gonna discuss today
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and right now I have Troy Anderson with me.
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He's the author of the new book,
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The Trump Code, Exploring Time Travel,
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Nikola Tesla, The Trump Lineage, and America's Future.
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Now there's a lot to unpack there
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and the last time that Troy, you and I talked
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was July 13th, the afternoon,
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shortly after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life
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and we thank God that that was a failed attempt
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but it has brought a lot of interest into
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who Donald Trump is and what does he have to play
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or what role does he have to play
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in prophetic and time travel?
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So let's unpack this a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, John, so I mean,
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I was finishing up The Trump Code
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and then the attempted assassination occurred
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and as everybody saw, he turned his head right
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at the right moment and the bullet just clipped his ear
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and he attributed God to saving his life.
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So it's just one in a long series of events in his life
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where it seems like God is intervening,
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there's some kind of divine intervention.
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So in The Trump Code, we're unpacking
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sort of this 5,000 piece jigsaw puzzle of,
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does God have a plan for President Trump?
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What's the future of America hold?
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And so like we mentioned in the last interview,
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we talked about the Baron Trump collection,
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these very intriguing series of novels,
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talk about this little boy,
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goes on these time traveling adventures
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guided by his uncle Don, the master of masters,
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he lives in Trump Castle on Fifth Avenue in New York
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where Trump Tower now stands.
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And so there's been articles in Newsweek
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and Politico and Krizman News,
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you know, talking about is Trump a time traveler
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and what's the connection to prophecy?
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So people are having fun with this.
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So that's part of what the book talks about.
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Yeah, so I mean, we're fascinated with prophecy
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because God does use prophetic,
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he does speak prophetically to prophets,
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to people that are listening
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and some things are forth telling
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and some things are foretelling.
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You know, there's things that are written in the Bible
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about the end times that we know for fact
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that these are going to happen
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because we've seen things in the Old Testament
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that there's been prophetic words about
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and we've seen those unfold exactly like God has described.
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And then there's things where it's like,
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okay, God, here's the prescriptive
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or the voice of the Lord,
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this is where we want things to go,
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this is how the Lord wants it to go
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but it doesn't quite always happen that way
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because free will, human will gets in the way.
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And there's a longer conversation about that
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and please put it in the comments.
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But we're talking about time travel too
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because we've got prophetic
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which is kind of like the biblical understanding
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of God speaks about something that is about to happen
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or how we need to be able to deal with it.
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But then there's this thing of the sci-fi nature
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of time travel and it seems to be
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like there's some crossover to this.
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Help us understand about the prophetic and time travel.
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Are they the same thing but just from different,
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are they different sides of the same coin?
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So in the Trump Code, we talk about this very unusual
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situation where the famed inventor, Nikola Tesla,
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who had talked about time travel
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as had Albert Einstein believed it was possible.
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Tesla lived in the early 1900s
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and he's been described as the architect
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of the modern world.
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Our electric grid derives itself from ideas he had,
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all kinds of like wireless communications,
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just many different inventions that we have today.
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So he was living and also he supposedly had come up
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with free energy, zero point energy.
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You could pull energy from the other dimensions
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kind of thing.
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So it's like a top secret kind of thing.
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So anyways, he was living hotel to hotel
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in New York City during World War II and he died in 1943.
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And then after he died, reporters would go interview him.
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And so he had told some reporter,
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I've invented the death rate weapon.
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And so the idea was if Nazi Germany attacked us
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with nuclear weapons via their air force,
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this weapon could fully vaporize them.
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So there was sort of a national security interest
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in what ideas he had come up with.
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So the FBI actually asked Donald Trump's uncle,
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John Trump, who is a esteemed professor at MIT
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to go review these 80 trunks of files that Tesla had.
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And so the official version he came back with is,
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I don't think there's anything really
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of national security interest here.
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But then later on, there was a bunch of missing documents
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from Tesla.
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And in fact, I interviewed the author of some books
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on Tesla.
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Mark Seifer was featured in a History Channel special
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looking at these missing files.
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And so the speculation is that the government kept
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a lot of these files and may have developed
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all kinds of top secret technologies and inventions
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over the decades.
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And so the question has been,
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does Trump's family have some kind of knowledge
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about this thing?
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So here recently, the Sun newspaper,
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Britain's largest newspaper, they filed a Freedom
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Information Act request with the federal government.
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They fought a four year legal battle.
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And then it came back, this is connected
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to those congressional hearings on these UFO and UAP sightings.
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So these documents came back and they
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said that the government believes that time travel is
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possible.
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It may help explain how these sightings are occurring.
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Could these vehicles be using wormholes, quantum physics,
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things like that, anti-gravity technologies.
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So the government thinks that there may be something to this.
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So the question is, do they have some kind
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of primitive technologies along these lines?
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Wow.
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So there's a lot of questions with that.
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So there's a way to break into these other dimensions
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and time travel that way.
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But it's related to the Trumps.
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Could you explain that a little bit more?
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So we've got these stories about Baron Trump as a time traveler.
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How does this all connect?
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Well, what's happened is so the Newsweek and Politico
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had these articles.
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And then people on the internet, essentially,
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had fun with this.
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They've created these YouTube videos, TikTok videos,
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got millions and millions of views.
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This fun thing is Trump a time traveler.
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Does that help explain his rise to political power, his wealth?
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It's sort of a fun kind of thing.
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But if you look at the Bible, there's
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all these prophets that God showed them in different ways
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what the future held.
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And how exactly did this occur?
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Like Moses, and Ezekiel, Elijah, Jeremiah, Apostle John.
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In many cases, they're shown visions.
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They're shown dreams.
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In some cases, God speaks directly to them.
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But there's a number of curious things in the Bible.
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Like let's consider the Mount of Transfiguration.
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Jesus is joined by Moses and Elijah
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on the Mount of Transfiguration.
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He's shining like the sun, like really bright.
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But then how did Moses and Elijah get there?
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Did they come from heaven?
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Or if you go back to the story in Exodus,
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Moses is on Mount Sinai, receiving the Ten Commandments.
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And when he comes down off the mountain,
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he's shining super brightly.
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They have to put a veil across his face.
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And it's sort of a similar story for Elijah.
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So did Jesus bring them from the past
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into the future to the Mount of Transfiguration?
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And there's sort of a number of stories in the Bible like that.
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They're calling to question exactly how
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God shows the prophets, the future,
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and how, you know, because God's outside of space and time.
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And so we explore all these things in the Trump Code.
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Yeah.
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So tell me about these Barron Trump stories
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and your first view reading those.
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Because you had a different vantage point.
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You're not looking at it as just entertainment
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the first time that you were looking at these.
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Tell us about some of the things that you found,
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maybe some puzzle pieces that you found in that.
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Well, what's very interesting about the Barron Trump
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collection, so that the first thing is, you know,
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Ingersoll Lockwood wrote these books in the 1890s.
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And he was a lawyer and an author.
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And this is sort of the time of the popularity of the Alice
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in Wonderland novel.
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So these are books he wrote that are time traveling children
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adventure stories.
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And so Barron Trump, who's drawing
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on the cover of the book, strongly resembles
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President Trump's son Barron.
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You know, there's a striking resemblance there.
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And then he goes on all these adventures with Don.
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They go to Russia and all these different things.
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And then the most intriguing part
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is his last book, The Last President.
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And so if you think about different fictional writers
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over the decades, you know, George Orwell's 1984,
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Big Brother, The Surveillance State.
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It seems sort of prophetic in nature,
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given what's going on today.
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Or Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, the book burnings.
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We all read that book when we were kids.
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And now you've got cancel culture and the massive
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censorship and disinformation.
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So we're locked with a novel sort of similar.
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And so it calls into question as we approach this 2024
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presidential election of all this chaos and division going
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on today, could President Trump be the last president?
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You know, the book talks about the anarchists and socialists
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converging on Trump Castle, shouting death to the rich man.
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And then there's like a civil war that breaks out in chaos.
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So could he be like the last legitimately elected president?
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Or what does the future hold?
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So we sort of explore all this in the Trump code.
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So Troy, we've also got this whole concept
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of another civil war in the book, The Last President,
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where Ambrose O'Loughlin talks about the last president.
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Tell us a little bit about what happens in that chapter
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or that book in that series.
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And what are we relating to right now?
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So as we approach this 2024 presidential election,
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I mean, everybody's expecting who knows what kind of chaos
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is going to unfold.
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We've watched this massive division in chaos
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the last four years.
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And so in Ingersoll Lockwood's books,
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which he wrote in the 1890s, The Baron Trump Collection,
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the last book is The Last President.
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And it talks about the anarchists
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and the socialists converging on Trump Castle, which
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is on Fifth Avenue in New York City, where Trump Tower now
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stands, chanting death to the rich man
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after the election of a populist president.
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And so there's been articles in different mainstream media
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outlets asking, was Lockwood sort of prophetic in nature?
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What does the future hold?
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And given all the chaos we might expect with this election,
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we've got the sentencing of President Trump coming up.
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We've also got the, there could be legal battles,
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I would imagine, after the elections all start to come in.
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What kind of chaos could unfold in America?
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The last president actually talks about a civil war breaking
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out and the military being called in to try
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to quell the situation.
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So were these novels prophetic in nature?
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Only time will tell.
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But we explore all this in the Trump Code.
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Yeah, so you mentioned about the potential sentence,
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or the sentencing of Trump, which could potentially
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mean to jail time, like actually going into jail.
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Do you think that that would be a linchpin moment that
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would be the spark that would cause this civil war?
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Well, I think part of the reason why
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there's so much division in America is
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Americans have seen this all out attack on President Trump
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ever since he was first elected in 2016, just one thing
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after another, one thing after another.
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Then he had all these criminal prosecutions.
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The Supreme Court intervened and said
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there's immunity to a certain extent for all this stuff.
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So if he's actually in prison coming up here
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on September 17, that would be a monumental, essentially,
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situation where do we still have a democracy?
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What kind of republic do we have when
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you have an opponent jailing your rival
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in the political presidential election?
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So only time will tell how people might react to that.
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But I would imagine there would be massive public anger
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over that kind of situation.
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So Troy, if there is to actually be a civil war,
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let's speculate here a little bit.
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How do you think that that would play out in a 2024 world
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as opposed to a 1896 world, whenever that was written?
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There's been Democratic leaders that have actually
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came out publicly now saying that if President Trump is
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elected, they're going to do everything they can to stop him
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from taking office.
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So the amount of rhetoric that's going on now
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is just way over the top of what we've
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seen in American politics throughout the country's
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history.
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So I think it's very important that we pray for our country
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right now, that we ask God to intervene in this situation.
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It's a very dangerous situation in that we encourage people
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to vote and maybe even pray and fast.
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I talked to a minister the other day.
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He said, after we had that event, they returned.
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We had 42 million people watch this National Day
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Repentance in the National Mall.
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We don't have a big event planned now,
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but we can call on Americans to pray and intercede
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for our country to fast and repent before God
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and return to God.
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I think that's the most crucial thing we could do at this time.
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Yeah.
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So there's a lot to explore with that.
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And you just brought up about this last president thing.
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And so we've touched about time travel somewhat and prophecy
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somewhat here.
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I want to bring some of those things together.
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And something that I recently heard,
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which was an apocryphal prophetic word from a book that's
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not in the 66 books of canon in the Bible,
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but it's in the book of Esdras, which would have
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been a contemporary of Nehemiah.
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So there's some people that say it was Ezra or something
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of that time frame.
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But there is this eagle that there
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was this prophetic word about.
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And there's been some correlations to that
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that people are making from that to the political system
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in the United States right now and the history
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of our leaders.
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You dug into that too, not in the book,
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but just as a side note here.
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But let's talk about that for a little bit
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and how prophecy does speak to our world today.
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Yeah, so this is an intriguing prophecy
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that's been popularized just here
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the last couple of months or so.
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And as you mentioned, it involves
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Ezra in the Apocrypha, which isn't part of the Christian
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Bible, but it is part of the Catholic Bible,
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I think Eastern Orthodox and that kind of thing.
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I read it as a kid.
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And so in this prophecy, this angel
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shows Ezra these three eagles that
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have these feathers on them.
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And their feathers are different length.
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And so there's an author who's connected this,
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made an interpretation.
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His name is Michael Rush.
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And what he's claiming is that the first feather on the eagle
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refers to Hoover.
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And then the next one refers to JFK and then so on,
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all the way up to our current presidents.
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he was in there for eight terms.
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And then others were only for one term and two terms.
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in the book Revelation to the Horror of Babylon, Mystery
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Babylon, that is equivalent to what's
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known as the Deep State today.
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And so whenever there was a president in there
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that sort of went along with the globalists,
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went along with the Deep State plans,
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they were able to serve out their full term.
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then their time is cut short.
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And so this brings us up to the last two feathers.
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You had President Trump.
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And what was his time cut short?
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His feathers sort of short with the election,
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the last election.
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And Joe Biden, now he's been sort of deposed.
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And his time has been cut short.
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And so the question is, what's going
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to happen with the next two feathers
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that are on this eagle?
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Yeah, so we're not looking at that as biblical prophecy.
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But it is still in the vein or in the spirit of prophecy.
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And so we have to take that and look at it and say,
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all right, Lord, is there anything with this
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that we need to be paying attention to?
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And in the same vein, you're looking
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at these Ingrosso Lockwood books and looking at that
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and saying, in the same vein, is there
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anything that we need to be paying attention to with this?
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And so as you're looking at these things,
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what are you seeing that we need to be doing?
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Well, I think the most important thing is,
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you know, only God knows what the future holds.
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But as I probably mentioned in my last interview,
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I did this interview with Billy Graham back in 2013.
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And he said, when God sent the prophet Jonah to Nineveh
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to warn them of judgment, the king and the people repented.
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And he believed the same thing could happen again
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this time in America.
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And in my second book, Trompokulus,
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we called for this national day of repentance.
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It actually happened, the return on the national mall.
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42 million people watched that.
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And then we just had this great North American eclipse.
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It went through all these towns called Nineveh.
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So I wrote that story for Charisma,
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the great North American eclipse.
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Is this our Nineveh moment?
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In other words, is this our chance to turn back to God?
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So, you know, the story of Nineveh
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is the one example in the Bible
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of a nation that God was gonna judge.
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And then when they repented, he relented.
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And so that's what Billy Graham believed could happen today.
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So that's the message, the theme of the Trump code
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in all my books is that we need to repent,
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turn back to God.
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And then, you know, we could see a change
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from what, you know, maybe the future holds.
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If these Ingersoll-Lockwood prophecies accurate,
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or maybe this Ezra one's actually accurate,
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you know, maybe that that won't happen.
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And we could have a continued opportunity
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to spread the gospel
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and do everything that Jesus has asked us to do.
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Yeah, what is, I mean, obviously we want people
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to get their own copy of the Trump code,
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which is available for pre-order.
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And actually it's available now on Amazon.
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So you can get that and it'll be delivered to you quickly.
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But it is high in the charts,
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which is really awesome to see
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that so many people are interested in time travel,
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the prophetic Donald Trump's lineage and Nikolai Tesla.
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I mean, there's a lot of things
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that are just kind of all coming together
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and making it a very interesting read.
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You as the author, what is the takeaway
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that you want to make sure that people have
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when they're reading this book?
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Well, yeah, I think the most important thing is that
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I believe this is our minimum moment.
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This is God giving us a chance,
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maybe like one last chance to turn back to him.
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I would encourage people to pray for our country,
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pray for President Trump, go vote this November.
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It's very important to people to go vote
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and just get involved in our country
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because we're on the verge of World War III.
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There's all kinds of major economic crises
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that could be coming and there's all these prophecies.
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It just seems like God's been warning us
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for many, many years now.
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And this is our opportunity to turn back to him.
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So I would encourage people to get right with God.
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Amen, amen.
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Trey Anderson, thank you so much for taking the time
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to out of your busy schedule
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because so many people want to talk to you about this book.
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Thank you so much for taking the time
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to talk to us here today at Charisma.
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God bless you.
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Yeah, thank you so much, God bless you.