Man's back Miraculously healed! Mario Murillo tells the powerful story!

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This is because Biblical illiteracy was created by these guru type celebrity pastors that

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are running around now and they love to sound like Anthony Robbins and wear the the muskull

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shirts and stand there and enthrall the crowd.

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But they're not teaching truth verse by verse biblical doctrine on truth.

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Believe it or not, youth are fascinated by truth.

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They want it.

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Mario Murillo, it's great to have you back here on Charisma News.

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It seems like every time that we talk, you're in another part of the world or you're going

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to another part of the country to do another tent crusade.

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And judging by the background that you have behind you now, you're not in San Francisco

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anymore.

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You're somewhere in Denver, right?

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Or Colorado.

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Colorado Springs.

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Colorado Springs.

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That's where the tents going up.

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And it's a new tent, by the way, John.

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It's a new tent.

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We've outgrown our tent every 18 months.

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We've had to double the size of our tent.

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Mathematically, that means by the end of five years from now, we should be able to seat

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a million people.

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We'll be able to see that tent from the moon pretty soon, right?

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Yeah.

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And in any event, we just took delivery on a 40,000 square foot tent.

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It would cover a football field.

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And we're going to need it because of all the people that are getting saved.

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It'll be able to seat 5,211 people inside of it with a massive stage.

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It's going to be 40 feet high.

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You're going to see it from all over then Colorado Springs.

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And we're excited.

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We've got already 500 people two months in advance.

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500 people have volunteered to come to Colorado Springs to help us bring healing and salvation

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to thousands and thousands of people.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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And so I want to hear what has been happening recently.

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I mean, you always have some sort of a report or a testimony of a miracle healing or a miracle

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of salvation.

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I remember when you were in Bakersfield, you were talking about these gang members that

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were coming to Christ and just seeing amazing things happening there.

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Tell me about something that's been happening recently.

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And I know later, a little bit later in this interview, we're going to talk about some

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prophetic things that are stirring in your heart and regarding our culture and the culture

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war that we're in right now with free speech and everything.

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So before we get into that, let's talk about these amazing testimonies that God is bringing

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right in front of you.

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Let's encourage the body of Christ.

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Yes.

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And especially, I love to do this on Charisma News because this is the platform that I enjoy

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the most.

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And I want to tell you, whenever I'm with you or with Brother Steve Strang, I love it.

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I enjoy it because I know it's going to go out to thousands of people.

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Will everybody listen up?

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Listen up very carefully.

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We are flooded with testimonies.

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We're flooded with reports.

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And unfortunately, it starts to become background noise.

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We tend to lose our sense of the credibility of what people say because, you know, we hear

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all of these fantastic, continual reports of things that are going on.

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So I'm going to keep this as direct and definable as possible.

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His name was Steve.

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He lived in his house with darkness alone for seven years.

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He wouldn't venture out hardly anywhere from his house because he lived on a level of pain

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that few human beings can understand.

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He was on every medication.

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You took the capsules that he took every day, 15 separate kinds of things that he was prescribed,

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which I don't understand, in order to deal with the pain in five ruptured discs that

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were in his spine.

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And so there he was, not a Christian, lost, no hope, in darkness.

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And some friends brought him to the Tent Crusade in Colorado Springs last July, sat in the

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back.

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He was annoyed, not only because it was painful to sit, but because he thought it was a concert.

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He didn't realize it was a Christian event.

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So he's a little bit perturbed, a lot of anxiety about it.

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Well, and we give God the glory for everything because I'm unworthy to be associated with

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this in any way, but I'm in the pulpit.

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I point to the back and I sit right there is a man whose spine is being healed.

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And at that moment, Steve felt his finger, like these fingers, these vertebrae go back

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into place and seven years of indescribable pain was gone in an instant.

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And it scared him and he stood up and he ran to the front to be saved.

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And he was dramatically converted.

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He went from being a housebound pain victim to every single time the doors of the church

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at Radiant Church in Colorado Springs are open, he's there.

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He's always there.

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He's the first one to arrive, the last one to leave.

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Second miracle, I'll make this one quicker because I get too excited for my own good.

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This is great.

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I love it.

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Her name is Bree, B-R-I, how you spell her name.

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She had parasites in her stomach and the medication they gave her to deal with these parasites

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started a autoimmune war in her body where it began to cannibalize itself.

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And it affected her motor skills.

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It wiped out her energy and she became helplessly degenerating and shrinking to 94 pounds.

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She's five foot nine.

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And she went down to 94 pounds.

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And when they brought her to the meeting, they brought her to the front, they carried

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her and she's on her knees.

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But again, her motor skills, inability to really coordinate and she looks like a skeleton.

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And she's in front of the Tower of Speakers on my left when all of a sudden, man, the

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power of God came on me and said, go over there and I'll be glorified.

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And I prayed for her.

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And she knew the moment that God had touched her, she understood it.

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Well, she within the next few weeks could eat whatever she wanted, had no pain, no weakness.

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Her motor skills are restored.

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She gained 30 pounds and she's absolutely a walking, talking miracle a year later.

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We just had her testify a few weeks ago.

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And those are two of many that happened in Colorado Springs and why we're going back.

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Yeah.

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When are you going back?

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When is this crusade?

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Okay, the crusade is at Church for All Nations in their Northeast campus.

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It's a Church for All Nations, July 16th through the 19th.

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We're going four nights.

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Catherine Mullins is going to lead worship at that event.

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And it's going to be a remark.

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We are already flooding the city with workers and we're going to see miracles.

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Wow.

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And so I find it very interesting that you heard the voice of the Lord say, go over to

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there, go over to that girl and I'm going to be glorified.

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And you needed to be able to speak.

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You needed to be able to get the words out.

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Yes.

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And to be able to be obedient to do that.

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And in our world today, we're dealing a lot with cancel culture and there's a fight against

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free speech.

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We just saw from the time that we're recording this a couple of weeks ago that Tucker Carlson

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was fired from Fox News and there seems to be this fight or this battle for our words,

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this battle to keep people quiet.

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If we can keep people quiet in the natural, then we can keep people quiet from declaring

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the word of God.

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You have a powerful message that God has put on your heart about this and I just kind of

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want to turn you loose and I'll ask questions along the way like I normally do, but I'm

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just going to let you go brother.

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Because before we hit record here, you were on a roll and yeah, so just go ahead and share

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what the Lord has been sharing with you.

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Well John, I want everyone who's watching to take a moment and listen to me on one point.

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There are only two passions in my life that I'm in the ministry that I'm fighting for.

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One is to preach the gospel with signs, wonders, and miracles.

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And when all the drug addicts I can, every lost soul I can find, I'm trying to win them.

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But my secondary passion in the ministry is to fight to preserve that right to do the

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first thing.

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The second thing is to fight to preserve that.

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And I have some good news and some horrible news actually, but I think it's important

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to understand what the meaning of Tucker Carlson's firing, what it means to us.

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You know, it's a charade in Washington.

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There's a ruling elite party and some of them are in the Republican Party and a lot of them

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are in the Democratic Party.

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And the idea that a minister shouldn't be referencing politics, that might have held

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some kind of validity a few years ago, but now it is an inexcusable betrayal of your

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calling in God to remain silent right now.

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You have to speak out.

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And what we found out with Tucker is this.

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He said some things that went against that elite group of corporate heads that want to

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control our world.

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They are neither Republican nor Democrat.

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They live in a loftier perch than that in the global scheme.

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And so they silenced him, but they thought they did, only it backfired.

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You know, Elon Musk was not something that any of them expected to happen.

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And if you'd have told me five years ago that Twitter would actually be a platform for free

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speech, I wouldn't have believed you.

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But there's been such a shift and a moment that I believe is from God that the church

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needs to seize.

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And amen.

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I agree with that completely.

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The church needs to seize every opportunity to preach the gospel.

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And St. Francis of Assisi is quoted by saying this, that we preach the gospel at all times

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and when necessary, use words.

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Well, to be honest, it's necessary to use words at all times.

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And so if we're not doing our best to share the gospel through our actions as well as

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our words, then we're missing a key component of that.

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And so I know that I believe that he was actually misquoted quite a bit about that and it was

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taken to just be a nice person and people will come to Christ.

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He did a lot of preaching the gospel with words too.

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But no, what I'm going to say is that you said when necessary, use words.

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And the words we need to use are the necessary words.

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Not our opinion, but what words are necessary.

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And here's what I'm going to tell you.

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I'm in a strange place in my life where I know that God wants me to address abortion,

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the transgender agenda, and God wants me to speak out against evil as I see it.

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But it becomes difficult for me to say, oh, the Republicans are right and the Democrats

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are wrong.

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And I'm going to tell you what I'm going to say.

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Democratic Party has an evil agenda.

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The Republican Party has a compromised agenda and we can't trust either one fully.

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Now obviously, I know God can work a lot easier right now in the conservative movement because

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they still at least outwardly claim to value family and truth and freedom of speech.

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But the real battle, the real war that's going on right now is the silence in the American

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pulpit.

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That's the real, that's where you know, the devil is in the details.

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That's where the problem is.

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And there's a verse in the Bible that I wanted to reference.

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And I will after you ask your question, you were going to ask me.

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But I wanted to say that about necessary words.

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That is really important with these whole necessary words.

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I mean, that is those necessary words are the ones that are being, they're triggered.

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You know, on Facebook, I know people that have because they posted about Jesus dying

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for your sins to save you.

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They have been, they've gotten a strike.

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They've gotten put in Facebook jail.

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You know, people are getting removed from different platforms because they're speaking

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the truth.

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They're not even speaking against certain groups or things like that.

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They're just speaking the truth.

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And then people come after them.

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And so, I mean, we've had some interesting, interesting altercations with that as well.

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Because, yeah, I mean, it's, we're just trying to report what's going on.

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And we have to be careful.

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I mean, we're going to speak the truth no matter what.

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But sometimes we have to beat around the bush a little bit to so, so that things are, you

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know, we're not going to get shut down on these different platforms.

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We're going to continue to be on available at charisma news.com forever.

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And all these other platforms, our podcast network, and those things.

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So we're not going to shy away from that.

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But we're going to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves to be able to be to be able

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to get the word out there and be careful with those necessary words, I guess.

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You know, Twitter was recently purchased by Elon Musk a few months ago.

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And honestly, a few years ago, I thought Elon Musk was probably one of the best Bond villain

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names that I could have ever come up with.

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And now he seems more like a Tony Stark, you know, helping the people of Ukraine get the

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internet through satellites and, you know, the shooting off rockets and, and all this

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interesting stuff and buying the biggest buying the biggest social media platform and turning

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it into something that's just totally free speech.

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It seemed like we were heading towards a place before where free speech is totally cut off

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and there's nothing that we can say and we just have to bite our tongues and hope something

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changes.

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With this change that's happening, what are you seeing spiritually?

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All right, I want to I want to address it this way.

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Number one, how many times have you and I heard ministers who were mediocre say, well,

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we shouldn't get involved in that, because they're really not criticizing the church.

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In 2008, I told leaders and my blog, I said, they're going after Christianity.

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That's all they really want.

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They don't want to just silence the right wing QAnon, whatever they're after Christianity,

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you just don't want to face it.

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They don't say it today because they don't have enough momentum.

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They don't have enough support to do it.

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They won't get away with it.

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Well, so the pendulum swung.

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And like I said, you can't even say that Christ can save you or wash away your sins by his

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blood.

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That is now a hate crime that is unsafe.

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People feel threatened by it.

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And therefore, you're going to see social media block that out.

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Well, we disobeyed God when this problem began.

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God had sent voices like David Wilkerson and others and said to the body of Christ in the

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United States, we need to stand up against the flood of evil and against the flood of

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immorality.

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They didn't do it.

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And they kept telling themselves what it doesn't affect me.

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Well, here we are.

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And we're at another moment where now we better speak up or it's going to be impossible to

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speak up.

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And so that's where we're at.

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Secondly, Elon Musk was a phenomenon like something you would see in the Old Testament.

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The Bible says he sets up one king and takes down another.

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You see, I have a theological theory that I call the Dagon factor.

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And it is this, the God Dagon was half man, half fish worshiped by the Philistines.

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And one day they went to war against Israel and stole the Ark.

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But they made the mistake of putting the Ark in the same room as their God, Dagon.

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And his hands fell off and his head and he fell forward in a pile in front of the Ark.

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Now imagine trying to believe that your God is still a God when you're repairing him,

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you're putting his limbs back together and you still believe he's deity.

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Obviously, what you're watching here that the anointed of God in every situation will

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rise to the top and God will change world events to facilitate their destiny.

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All right.

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He sent a storm to keep Jonah from getting to Tarshish because he belonged in Nineveh.

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You know, you look at Caesar Augustus, he's a mighty, powerful potentate, the head of

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the world's biggest empire.

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for the registry and taxation.

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That brought Joseph and Mary all the way from Nazareth down to Bethlehem so that Micah prophecy

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would be fulfilled.

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That though you are the least of all the tribes, out of you will come a ruler whose origins

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are from before time and Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

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So God facilitates, he moved the heart of Cyrus the king to fulfill the 70 year prophetic

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word of Jeremiah.

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So every single moment in time, every epoch in time carries two initiatives, the prophetic

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and policy.

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So there's prophecy and there's policy.

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And whatever the prophecies are that apply to that time, they're going to overrule man's

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policy.

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So here's what Elon Musk represents.

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It's a kink in the armor.

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It's a moment in time that God is allowed for the church once again to be protected

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from having his voice completely silenced.

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But we also ought to bear in mind that there have been nations that have been totally silenced.

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And it was this, when Jesus approached Jerusalem, he wept and he said, you did not know the

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hour of your visitation and now your peace is hidden from you.

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That's the alarm that I'm pulling.

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That's the alarm button that I'm referencing that we're in an hour where we need to hear

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God.

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You know, we have just under half a million Protestant ministers in the United States.

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Now you tell me, John, if Kid Rock shooting up a pack of Bud Light ended up affecting

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their sales, what would a hundred thousand pastors, men and women, standing in their

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pulpit as one voice saying, we do not want children to get replacement surgery for their

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gender.

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We don't want old men in sundresses reading stories to our children.

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We don't want this immorality.

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It would make the Bud Light boycott look like nothing.

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And it is essential for us to understand that this silence is being fomented by what I'd

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consider a faulty theology, which I will explain from Isaiah 59.

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All right.

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Is it okay?

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So I'm going to read it if you don't mind.

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All right.

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It says Isaiah 59 in the AMPC, an amplified classic version, starting in verse 14, justice

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is turned away backwards and righteousness and uprightness are standing afar off for

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truth has fallen in the streets and uprightness cannot enter the courts of law.

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So it's saying the truth has failed, saying that the courts don't bring justice anymore.

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It's saying the time we're living in.

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And then in verse 15, it goes on.

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Yes, truth is lacking.

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Boy, I'll tell you that.

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And he who departs from evil makes himself a prey.

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By being righteous, you're suddenly being canceled.

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And the Lord saw it and it displeased him that there was no justice.

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And he saw this is what he found remarkable.

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There was no man and wondered that there was no intercessor.

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Here's where it gets.

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It gets real touchy.

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John is the assumption here is prayer.

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And this is out of context.

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It's not about prayer.

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Is prayer important?

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Yes.

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The Bible says that we got to pray.

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Second Chronicles 714 interceding for revival.

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It's just that in this moment, it is speaking of something else.

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What God was shocked at was not that people weren't praying, but that they were silent

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in the face of the evil.

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That's a big deal, John.

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That's what it's talking about.

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There was no intercessor.

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And in brackets, it says no one to intervene on behalf of truth and right.

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Therefore, and this is where the news gets good.

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Therefore, his own arm brought him victory and his own righteousness, having the spirit

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without measure sustained him.

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And that's where we are.

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That's our moment right now in American history.

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God is going to send revival even though we don't deserve it.

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God is going to send revival even though men and women have been silent.

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Even though there's been this massive dereliction of duty where the priority is membership in

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church, money, offerings, everything else.

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God is still going to intervene in America.

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How do I know it?

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Because I saw it in the Jesus movement.

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I saw the church in this same exact condition when all of a sudden, Southern California

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became ground zero for a youth movement that would go around the world.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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You know, what you saw during the Jesus movement, and I love the whole Jesus Revolution movie.

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I mean, I cried at the end of that.

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And I just basically, I cried and spontaneously prayed, God use me that way.

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And I just was overwhelmed.

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I mean, you lived through that.

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You were a part of that.

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You were preaching that and seeing people come to Christ.

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We look at California now where this really started from.

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And San Francisco, people are leaving San Francisco.

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People are leaving a lot of these areas because it's gotten so bad.

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There's the homelessness is rampant.

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The drugs are everywhere.

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Violence is happening in so many different places.

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I know that Whole Foods had to close their store in San Francisco because of so much

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theft.

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And so you're telling me that stuff was like this back in the 70s when the Jesus revival

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was happening.

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Tell me about this more right now because we need some more hope.

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And what you're saying is you're comparing it to that.

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So I'm just kind of painting the picture.

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Like, if God can do it, then he can do it again.

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Well, and here's what he did.

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The cover of Time magazine said that God was dead.

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It just said in three words, God is dead.

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We had the assassination of Kennedy.

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We had the Vietnam War.

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We had the Beatles came in 1964 in their first tour of the United States and overnight changed

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the culture.

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All right.

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In 1963, 10,000 kids ran away from home.

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In 1965, just barely two years later, 1 million kids ran away from home.

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And the movement, I would get on a bus after high school.

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I got radically saved in high school and would jump on a bus to go down to the Haight Ashbury

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where there were 50,000 young people and I'd witness on the streets.

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In fact, I got a little amp and I would street preach, as I recall, with Janis Joplin and

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all of them in a concert about a quarter of a mile away from me.

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And I was just standing there against the tide.

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And if there had been an AIDS virus in 1966 in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, the

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death rate would have shocked the world.

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But the fact is they were on drugs, they were dying.

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The whole 10 years I was at Berkeley, we had overdoses all the time, deaths all the time.

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And the worldwide student revolution against the...and we had Watergate.

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There was the fear of nuclear war.

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We had the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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It was a time where New York City had discovered psychotherapy.

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Everybody had a shrink.

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They were depending more on Freud than the Bible.

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It was a time of tremendous...and feature this, Timothy Leary would do events with 10,000

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young people that were the purpose of it was to get them to triacid.

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It was literally a drug recruitment rally and they were happening all over the country.

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So it was evil and churches were abandoned.

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They figure that about 5% of American teenagers were in church in the mid-60s.

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And all of a sudden, the power of God fell.

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And you know, the Jesus Revolution movement, it couldn't...it'd be impossible for any one

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film to do justice to that moment in the late 60s to the mid-70s of what hit the United

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States because it happened simultaneously.

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There was a Chuck Smith and Costa Mesa, but there was something going on in Seattle, in

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Portland, in San Francisco, in Berkeley, and San Diego.

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And the drop-in centers and the number of outreach places that were going on had us

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so busy that I was in my car driving across California from one end of it to the other.

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There wasn't a city where we couldn't stop and preach.

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There was a Christian pizza parlor in Santa Cruz.

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There was a drop-in center in San Francisco.

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In Portland, when we went up there, there were people ministering on the streets.

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You know, the West Coast was hit so hard by the Jesus movement that literally there was

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not a man, woman, boy or girl who was not personally witnessed to receive Christ.

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That's how pervasive it was.

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So why do you think that we went from a culture or a time where, as you just said, literally

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everybody had an opportunity to hear the gospel, everybody was preached to, to now it's people

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are afraid to share the gospel and it's shut out.

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Like, obviously that's a slippery slope, but where did that slippery slope start?

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Well, you know, the John Kennedy said in one of his speeches, he said, a rising tide raises

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all boats.

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And at that time, the Jesus movement affected Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Catherine Kuhlman

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and church growth.

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And we had two Christian schools a day opening at one point in the United States, Christian

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private schools.

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Now where did it go?

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Well, I believe one of the things that cost us our steam was an overemphasis on the rapture.

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Well, do I believe in the rapture?

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Well here's what I believe.

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I believe that we are to function as if we're here another thousand years.

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We have to function as if we are here for the long run.

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So in the Jesus movement, the books, the movies, everything was so apocalyptic that no one

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bothered to finish college, no one bothered to have a long range plan.

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Nobody had any serious body of work that was being done in order to speak to the culture

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on a long range basis.

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Because of that, it tended to take a lot of the momentum out of it.

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I believe that in this second one, you know, this is really important to say, Jesus is

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a lion, he's a lamb.

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And the Jesus movement was acoustic, it was flowers, it was, you know, that little chubby

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dove design.

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And it was tender and it was that way.

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That was a lamb temperament.

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The matrix of that movement was a lamb temperament.

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And it was like Jesus loves you.

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And you know, the songs of the day, the Christian music was amazing.

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But here's what we're in now.

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Joel says, I'll pour out my spirit on your sons and daughters and they will prophesy.

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I personally don't believe we've seen that yet.

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I believe that Peter was right saying this is that.

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But in America, we've had the lamb revival, I think we're on the verge of a youthful revival

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that's going to be very frightening.

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I believe the devil has counterfeited the prophetic gift, counterfeited it so that when

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the real arrives, he's trying to make us immune to it, inoculated against it.

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But youth are going to be the prophets.

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And the prophets that come out from the youth movement in America aren't going to say, you

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know, everything you've been through is preparation and your end is going to be greater than your

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beginning.

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All of this flattery.

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No, prophets speak to cultural evil.

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Prophets go to the seat of power and challenge it.

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They speak truth to power.

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That hasn't happened yet.

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But when young people do it, it's irresistible.

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But I'll give you a clue.

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What was happened in Asbury right before the Jesus Revolution movie came out, that momentary

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flash was an omen and a precursor to something on campus that's going to be widespread.

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That's why we are rebranding, recalibrating our ministry, because we are going to be on

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campus where the student awakening of America is going to strike.

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And it's going to have an intensity because of the passion, the natural passion of youth

472
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680
is going to be amazing.

473
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,480
And John, you always ask me these questions and I, you know, you get me going.

474
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,800
So there it is.

475
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,800
That's great.

476
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720
You know, I've got another question for you.

477
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:37,880
Because you were talking about the youth and how they're, we had the lamb revolution.

478
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,800
So we're kind of expecting the lion revolution.

479
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,720
But when you were talking about this, the counterfeit prophetic, their counterfeit things,

480
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:53,960
you know, several years ago, maybe the previous generation, the big thing was to question

481
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,520
authority.

482
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:01,360
And now people are questioning truth and they don't know what truth is.

483
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:08,600
And so let's just talk about the whole thing of questioning authority and where that has

484
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,360
led to.

485
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,440
Because I think there is a good questioning of authority and there's an inappropriate,

486
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
there's a rebellious questioning of authority.

487
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,340
And the same way connecting to truth, there is a good questioning of truth.

488
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,200
And then there's a rebellious questioning of truth as well.

489
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Can we discuss some of those correlations there?

490
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,320
Well, to get to right to the heart of what you just asked me, what makes it right or

491
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,400
wrong to question authority is basically has to do with the question.

492
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,480
What is the question?

493
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,680
Because questions that are hit pieces or rhetorical questions or questions that are meant to just

494
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,320
kind of get you aren't purveyors of truth.

495
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,780
Where we are frustrated is on two levels.

496
00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:03,640
One is we took scripture out so that we don't teach the Bible.

497
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,800
The average young believer today doesn't understand doctrine, the essential truths of the gospel,

498
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,560
the Trinity, the second coming of Christ, the blood, the process of sanctification and

499
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
redemption, inerrancy of scripture.

500
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,960
They haven't got it, even though the Bible says be ready to give an answer for the hope

501
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040
that lies within you.

502
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:31,680
This is because biblical illiteracy was created by these guru type celebrity pastors that

503
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,880
are running around now and they love to sound like Anthony Robbins and wear the muscled

504
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,800
shirts and stand there and enthrall the crowd.

505
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,000
If they're not teaching truth verse by verse, biblical doctrinal truth, believe it or not,

506
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,740
youth are fascinated by truth.

507
00:35:50,740 --> 00:35:52,080
They want it.

508
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840
So this is a canard.

509
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,040
It's not something we need to be doing at all, is to seduce or leave the Bible verses

510
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,440
out.

511
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,100
Secondly, we haven't pursued with integrity the supernatural.

512
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:13,340
So we have a bumper sticker that was famous all over the South and conservative areas

513
00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:17,920
has said when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

514
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,800
Well, for every false prophet that we see running around seeing cows driving tractors

515
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:31,180
in heaven, there is another preacher who said prophecy isn't for today.

516
00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:40,120
The most powerful and devastating movement that I ever had to be a part of was a luncheon

517
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,880
I did in San Francisco to several hundred pastors who wanted to understand how did so

518
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,820
many young people were fooled by Jim Jones.

519
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:52,900
These were mainstream churches.

520
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:58,500
They were liberal churches and they wanted me as a youth leader because they heard what

521
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,440
God was doing in Berkeley.

522
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,840
They said, why did they end up with Jim Jones?

523
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,140
And I couldn't believe John what God had me to say.

524
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:12,400
I looked at him and I said, you know, before they tried Jim Jones, his church, they tried

525
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,400
yours.

526
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Ouch.

527
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,920
And I said, here's what's wrong.

528
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:25,000
We needed to discover the true gift of prophecy, discerning, casting out of devils.

529
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,320
How does healing and the word of faith that is true, the true legitimate word of

530
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:36,760
knowledge, prophetic word of wisdom, healing faith, all of how does that work?

531
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,760
Here's what Paul said.

532
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,040
He said, concerning spiritual gifts, I don't want you to be ignorant.

533
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440
We didn't have that passion.

534
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,760
There are certain spirit filled denominations that a huge number of their pastors don't

535
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,220
even pray in tongues, have never been baptized in the Holy Spirit.

536
00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:55,820
So here's the problem.

537
00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:57,260
We ignored tongues.

538
00:37:57,260 --> 00:38:00,240
We ignored the gifts of the spirit.

539
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,440
We didn't understand that Oral and Catherine Kuhlman specifically were going after these

540
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,940
things to generate a faith in people.

541
00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:15,040
They worked with the medical community, not against it.

542
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,920
There was no anti-intellectualism at Oral Roberts University.

543
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Catherine Kuhlman, in most of her meetings, the first couple of rows were saturated with

544
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,400
heart doctors, surgeons, nurses, and people in the medical community.

545
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,180
There wasn't this us and them thing.

546
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:35,520
It was this, this is real.

547
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,760
It's real.

548
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Let's validate it.

549
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Let's open it up in our churches.

550
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,700
The Bible says, forbid not to speak in tongues.

551
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:52,400
And so we got 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14 telling us to open the gates so that the true moving

552
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
of the Holy Spirit could occur.

553
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,160
We didn't do it.

554
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:03,880
So that opened the door for all of these people that are flaky, that are extreme, and the

555
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,200
onslaught of social media.

556
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,440
You can get on there and find people that are self-proclaimed everything.

557
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,620
And they're not under any kind of integrity or authority.

558
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,520
And they're accountable to no one.

559
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,200
And they're fleecing the flock.

560
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,200
That's what they're doing.

561
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Wow.

562
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,880
So, you know, Mario, there's, I've got two questions that I've got just from the things

563
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,880
that you were just sharing.

564
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,440
And I'm going to ask both of them and let you kind of work them in together just so

565
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040
that I don't forget them because they're so deep.

566
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,520
And it's making me ponder and really just maul some of these things over.

567
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,560
But the first one is you talked about the rapture and how teaching about the rapture

568
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:51,800
is what you believe is one of those things that really led to passivity in the overall

569
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,040
body of Christ, especially in the American church.

570
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:02,080
I know with that type of teaching, I've basically kind of, I'm 38 years old right now.

571
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,100
And I just got married five months ago.

572
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:09,340
And my whole life, I have been wanted to be a husband and a father.

573
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:13,240
And I've known that that's part of the calling that God has on my life.

574
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:18,440
But people that are older than me, people that have already gone through being a husband

575
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:24,760
and a father and having their family and they're towards retirement, now they've just been

576
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,760
talking about Jesus coming again, Jesus coming again.

577
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,760
And it's actually, it went from something that's encouraging to something that's depressing

578
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,300
the following generation.

579
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:42,920
And I've definitely felt victim of that, not wanting Jesus to come back before I've done

580
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
what I felt God was calling me to do.

581
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,200
And so I totally agree with what you were talking about.

582
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,680
So I'd like you to kind of dig into that a little bit more.

583
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:58,320
But also speaking about that younger generation, you said that the youth want truth.

584
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,880
And like, so discernment seems to be something that's really key right now.

585
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,020
And I want to hear what you're seeing as evidence for that.

586
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:11,640
And so I know kind of those things are basically speaking to the younger generation.

587
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,960
So if you can kind of just opine about that a little bit, I would appreciate that.

588
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,280
Okay, to your first question, I don't want to take anyone's rapture doctrine away.

589
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:30,560
I'm gonna tell you something, I know theologians, I've got friends that are the most gifted

590
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Bible scholars in our world today.

591
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,560
And they're friends of mine, because I made it a point to seek them out.

592
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,800
And when they didn't want to know me, I made them know me, because I just love what they

593
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,960
do.

594
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:49,400
And I could take a person who believes in the rapture, pre-tribulation rapture, mid-tribulation

595
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,440
rapture, and the ones that believe the church is going to go through the great tribulation.

596
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,760
I could moderate a discussion.

597
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,400
And I promise you, it's just like it says in Proverbs, when a man speaks, he said it

598
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,760
is absolute truth until his neighbor comes and cross examines him.

599
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,080
So I could take this guy, and you'd be convinced.

600
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,720
And then this guy, and you would also be convinced.

601
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,480
And this guy, and you would be convinced.

602
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:28,200
And I believe that I look at the end times like the blind men that saw an elephant.

603
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,960
And all right, so one grabbed the ear and said, this is flat like a moray eel.

604
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:40,060
This is like a flat fish.

605
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:42,760
One grabbed the trunk and said, no, it's like a tree.

606
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,080
And the other grabbed the belly and said, no, it's like a whale.

607
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640
And then one grabbed the tail and said, it's like a snake.

608
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,480
And they were all wrong, and they were all right.

609
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,720
And if you take prophetic teachers on the eschatology and lay them end to end, they'll

610
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,920
point in all directions.

611
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,500
But here's what I believe is essential.

612
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:04,000
So I don't want to get any emails or say, you shouldn't have said anything against this

613
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,480
or against that or the other.

614
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,480
I'm not.

615
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,320
I'm going to tell you that what I believe is that there is a mystery associated with

616
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,800
the end times in order to produce a dynamic tension.

617
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,200
And that tension is perseverance and urgency.

618
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,280
The Bible says, be urgent in season and out of season.

619
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,760
What God is trying to do to the church is make them aware that only a few things are

620
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,600
important right now, because don't hold tightly on your possessions.

621
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Don't hold tightly on to your carnal dreams.

622
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Be ready at any moment to go, but be ready just as ready to dig in.

623
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,080
D.L.

624
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Booty, they said, if you knew Christ was coming tomorrow, what would you do today?

625
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760
He said, I plant a tree.

626
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,600
So I'm going to tell you that this is what God is trying to do.

627
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:07,360
Keep us off balance, so to speak, so that we have this dynamic tension between urgency

628
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,360
and perseverance.

629
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Dig in like you're going to be here for 100 years, but be ready at any moment.

630
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,160
But here's what we can't do.

631
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,240
We can't have eschatology that has us off balance.

632
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,800
It's hard to defeat the enemy when you've got a sword in one hand and luggage in the

633
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,960
other.

634
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:34,800
So if your mind is to leaving and so until you know the if God were to take me, that's

635
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,800
autonomous.

636
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,440
That's I don't have any part of that.

637
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,440
He's just going to do it.

638
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,760
So in the meantime, I'm going to go up in the rapture.

639
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,440
If I'm going up in the rapture, I'm going up feet first, dragged by an angel, biting

640
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,720
demons all the way up.

641
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,360
Because as long as I'm here, I'm going to fight with fierceness.

642
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,600
I'm going to plan.

643
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,040
I'm going to dig in and invest.

644
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840
We just bought a 5000 seat tent.

645
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,120
We're buying a 55 foot trailer.

646
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080
We bought a stadium size sound system.

647
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,000
We bought 2000 more chairs, John.

648
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,080
We bought a truck for our television live streaming.

649
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
What are you doing, Mario?

650
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800
It's the end of the world, right?

651
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Listen, I'm going out with a bang is what I'm doing.

652
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Every day that I'm here, I'm going to make the loudest noise that I can for God's glory.

653
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,880
Wow.

654
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Wow.

655
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,880
That's that's so good.

656
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,120
I appreciate you talking about that.

657
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,760
So I want to go into the second part of that word, discernment and the younger generation.

658
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,960
You're talking about how youth want truth.

659
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,760
What is the evidence that you're seeing of that?

660
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,440
And what makes you really believe that?

661
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:52,040
It's Gen Z, that is the first evidence are there are vast large gatherings of young people

662
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,440
going on right now that a lot of people don't hear.

663
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Four and five thousand of them are getting together to understand Bible teaching, Bible

664
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,600
intercessory prayer.

665
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,720
There's a vast hunger for it.

666
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:11,680
Barna, you know, George Barna's group, they did a poll and they asked young people, what

667
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,640
is it about church that you don't like or that you wish was in church?

668
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,200
Number one was the presence of God.

669
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,660
They missed that.

670
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:25,040
Number two is Bible teaching.

671
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,640
Now how do we know that's true?

672
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,260
Go to the Jesus Revolution film.

673
00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,060
Look at Chuck Smith.

674
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:33,420
What did he do?

675
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:37,720
He began to teach expository preaching.

676
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:42,100
Instead of being a topical preacher, he was expository.

677
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:47,900
So he was going through one book after another in the Bible verse by verse.

678
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:53,220
And when he started to do that, the young people came in record numbers.

679
00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:55,680
We saw the same thing in Berkeley.

680
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,300
It is Bible doctrine that youth are interested in.

681
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:06,640
And if pastors would only wake up and realize that who they think are young are not young

682
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,960
anymore.

683
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,920
You know, and I was in Long Island with five mega church pastors and they asked me a question.

684
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:21,400
We had lunch together and they said, they were in the Jesus movement and they said to

685
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,600
me, they asked me, why are our youth groups so small?

686
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,700
All of us came out of youth revival.

687
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,640
Why are youth groups so small?

688
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,760
And I looked at him and I said, are you sure you want to hear the answer to that question?

689
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Because the answer is y'all still think you're the youth group.

690
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,800
You haven't become fathers.

691
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Wow.

692
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:51,240
You still think it's about you and your music and your day and your time and it's not.

693
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,240
Wow.

694
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,080
You are not mentoring.

695
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,320
And that's what and at the minute that young people feel I'm going to get training, if

696
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,520
you offer training, they're coming.

697
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600
If you offer Bible teaching, they're coming.

698
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,760
If you operate in the gifts of the spirit, they're coming.

699
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:14,560
But if you're doing this Anthony Robbins imitation, if you're strutting across the stage, telling

700
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,440
little stories, monologues and narratives and tropes, the kids, they're not, they don't

701
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,440
want it.

702
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,000
They can see right through it.

703
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,240
They can get that everywhere else, but that's what they want.

704
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:29,240
Yeah.

705
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,680
You can get a motivational speech anywhere.

706
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
I mean, TikTok is full of them.

707
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,120
So is Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and YouTube.

708
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I mean, there's so many places that you can get some sort of motivation to do better,

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be better, do more, get up earlier, stay up later, work out harder, but they can't touch

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the word of God.

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That's it.

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No, they can't.

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I mean, it's good to do all those things, but the word of God is key and central to

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what we're doing.

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And if we remove that, we're not actually going to be a successful person and a successful

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Christian for sure.

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What you were talking about reminds me of 2 Timothy 2, 2, how Paul told Timothy that

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what I have taught you in trust of faithful men who will be able to teach others.

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So you have discipleship in action right there.

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Paul to Timothy, Timothy to faithful men and faithful men to others.

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And what you were saying to those five mega church pastors and telling them you still

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think that you're the youth group.

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I mean, you're not factually fathering, you're not discipling, you're not making those disciples.

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Wow.

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I mean, there's a breakdown of that 2 Timothy 2, 2 layout or outline that God's given us

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through the apostle Paul.

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How do we fix that?

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What is something that the person that's listening to this now or watching this right now that

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they can do to take that step to fix that problem?

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To fix that problem is to get alone with God and turn off all the noise and wait on God

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and you'll hear and anyone here that and let's face it, you know, I have a way of thinning

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the herd of people that don't want God and whenever I speak, it's funny because they

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leave and the drug addicts come in and the gangsters come in.

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And so if you empty out those seats, so those lost souls can come in, I'm good with that.

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And I'll keep preaching that way.

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But I think that cutting through the noise of all of the bad influences that preachers

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and young leaders get today to stop it and in the silence to wait on God because here's

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your secret weapon.

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And I want to say this to those who are watching, here is your secret weapon is your desire

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to be used of God.

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If you have a sincere and honest desire to be used of God, then you are in the best possible

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condition you can be in because there's no way that you're going to escape being told

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by God what to do with your life.

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It's impossible.

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And you know, I never thought of that that way until I reread the Beatitudes where it

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said blessed are those who hunger.

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And I thought when is it a blessing to be hungry?

748
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See, when is that a blessing?

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And why is it a blessing?

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Well, it's a blessing because you're willing to pay the price.

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The hungry are willing to pay the price.

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That's what's left out of the equation.

753
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:57,320
You know, opportunities are available everywhere, but they're purchased.

754
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They're not in an endowment.

755
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They're bought and paid for by the passion of the person.

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So here's how it works.

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Blessed are those who hunger.

758
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Why?

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Because that hunger will give you the energy to pay the price.

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Blessed are those who hunger.

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00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,960
Why?

762
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Because of where that hunger came from.

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God gave it to you.

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All right.

765
00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:23,060
Why?

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00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:24,840
Blessed are those who are hungry.

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Why?

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00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,360
Because of what you're hungry for.

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God does not awaken a desire for you to have something deeply unless he means to give it

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00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,360
to you.

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00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:44,360
When Oral wanted miracles, Catherine wanted miracles, Billy Graham wanted souls, and Chuck

772
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Smith wanted to obey God.

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That was it.

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00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,440
And so it overtakes you.

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00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,680
You know, I had dinner with David Wilkerson one night, and I was trying to decide, Brother

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00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,760
Dave, where am I supposed to go?

777
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,840
I don't know the will of God for my life.

778
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,520
And he looked at me and he said, son, let me tell you something, the will of God will

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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,520
grow on you.

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,520
It'll grow on you.

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00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,120
It starts as a spark and a hunger, a fascination.

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00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:18,120
You find yourself praying and seeking, and you're setting yourself apart until one day,

783
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:25,400
instantly you are faced with the fact of what you're to do and how you're to do it.

784
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,560
And what it is becomes inescapable, irresistible, and unavoidable.

785
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,320
That's why those who hunger are blessed.

786
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,320
Wow.

787
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,380
Wow.

788
00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:38,680
That's why those who hunger are blessed.

789
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,560
That is a breakdown of that passage that I have not heard like that.

790
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,920
And I really appreciate that.

791
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:52,180
That makes so much sense that what we are hungry for, that that is where there's a blessing.

792
00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:55,000
And that's where, wow.

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00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:01,200
You know, Mario, every time that we talk, I start writing down notes on my notepad and

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00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,800
we've filled up a whole page.

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And sometimes that's how I indicate we need to kind of wrap things up this time and schedule

796
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,240
another opportunity to talk because we've gone almost an hour, my friend.

797
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:18,400
And I just feel closer with Jesus because we've been talking.

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And I hope that everybody that has been watching and listening to this Charisma News podcast

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,000
is blessed by the conversation that Mario and I have been having.

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Because what he's talking about is he's really a prophetic voice and bringing truth and clarity

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to what's happening in our society right now.

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this ministry, that are friends of Charisma, that are able to just speak such words of

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life.

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