Miracles, Manifestations, and the Coming Move of God | Brian Gibson #2025

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We're on the brink of World War III. You're going to see national leadership exposed in many different ways.

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You'll see congressmen. And God said in February, instead of having some sort of national calamity,

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we could have some sort of national revival.

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Pastor Brian Gibson, it's great to have you back here with us on Charisma.

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Last year, you gave us a prophetic word of what God was saying to you for the year 2024.

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And now we're about to go into 2025. So we're going to look back at 2024 and look ahead at 2025.

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And so it's great to have you back with us.

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Hey, what an honor. Always great to be with you. And good to get the band back together here.

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Let's go.

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Amen. Amen.

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Well, let's first, before we look at what God is saying for the future,

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let's see what God had said to you about this last year.

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You know, we've come basically a full calendar year.

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And just to kind of sum up some of the things, and I'll put a link to this article

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that is in Charisma News. So if you want to read these things here, you can just click the link in there

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to read that here. But Pastor Brian, you said that it's going to be about how hungry the church is

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and how hungry is the camp of darkness, which will set up the stage for what's going to happen in 2024.

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You talked about this hunger that's going to be a big driving force for what's going to happen.

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And you talked a lot about the young people are susceptible to darkness of witchcraft.

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And we've seen that a lot through like Taylor Swift, Kendall Jenner, Ariana Grande, and even

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like toys that have come out this last year, the Mothman, Build-A-Bear, Disney shows.

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And the young ones, the young are the ones that have felt the pressure to vote for politicians

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like Kamala Harris, that believe that abortion is completely necessary. But you said that revival

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that was prophesied was going to continue to break out and especially in little pockets. And so

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what we've seen is that there was a lot of college campuses throughout this last year

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that revival started breaking out all these different places. And it did.

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And it didn't just stay there, but it's kind of like popping up in different places. What's

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there some of the thoughts that you have about this as we're kind of looking back at just this

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word about revival? Yeah, kind of the word I had was hunger games. Right? Who's the most hungry?

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Who wants it? That's a lot of life anyway. Who wants it the worst? Does the dark, evil, wicked

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camp want it the worst or do the people of light, do they want to win and see Christ prevail?

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And so I think there was a fire that was lit in the church in 24. I'm thankful for it.

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I believe we caught a wave of intercession because we wanted to stand against the darkness.

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I mean, you could see the darkness rising and you could see darkness overplaying its hand.

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And a lot of people were woke up about a lot of things. They didn't go woke, but they woke up.

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Right? And they're like, what is happening to our nation? What's happening with our young people?

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What's happening with our moral fiber? And that lit a match to cause the saints to begin to pray.

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And I don't think it was just a match. I think it became a torch. And then there was great concern

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in 24 for all of us about the election. I mean, anybody that had a spiritual bone in their body,

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they were praying, they were fasting, they were seeking the will of God.

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And I went through a large portion of time in 24 where I couldn't even sleep through a whole night,

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not out of fear. It was just like God was waking me up to pray. And I would get up and I'd pray an

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hour. I'd sleep an hour. And that went on. And it wasn't just me. I get that report from everybody.

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And I really believe the saints got hungry and we prayed that through, you know, the effect of

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prayer of a righteous man. It fails much. We shut heavens, we open heavens, we're the Elijah's

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that do these kinds of things. And so I want to commend all the saints that prayed.

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I really think their prayer focus extended grace. It didn't save our nation. So I don't want people

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to be deceived. Our nation is not saved because Donald Trump's coming to office. So Trump will

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not make you a very good savior. And listen, I'm a Trump guy, but he's not my savior. And I do,

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I don't want to use the word fear, but I'm concerned that people think because we won a

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presidential election, our nation is like, oh, it's all good now. Well, I think we have to keep the

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torch of intercession and prayer and really going after doing something for our people and our

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nation at the high. I think that's the church's highest call right now, right? Salt and light,

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preservation of morality and bombarding heaven to get the word of the Lord going. Now on the revival

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pockets that popped out, colleges, I was talking to you about pockets of revival. I'd been prophesying

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college revivals and even like timelines when they would step up and on a couple of different

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national shows and those things happened. And I'm so thankful because you can't touch a nation

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without grabbing 20 year old kids, 18 year old kids, 19 year old kids. You look back to every

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historic revival, that's kind of the group of people that it starts with. So seeing that stuff

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happen at A&M, seeing it happen, I can't even remember where all it happened now, like different

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Texas, campus, Georgia. I think Auburn had a touch. I'm trying to remember. I mean, it was all over

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the place. And even some Ivy league schools have some larger prayer gatherings. They didn't get the

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press. They try to keep those a little quieter because of the forces that be there. But I mean,

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stuff's happening and it makes me hopeful and encouraged and come on, if we can win some college

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campuses, we can take our nation back. Amen. Amen. I believe that. Well, another thing that you said

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that was really startling back in that word from last year was that you said, I see in 2024, a lot

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of lampstands being extinguished. Their lampstands had been focused on the wrong things and they've

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been shining on the wrong things. And the attention is me. And I think one by one, a lot of those

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things are just getting moved out of the way. I think everybody's so focused on this kind of world

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that we lost a morality. We lost the power of God and we lost our fear of the Lord. We lost a lot of

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those things that really mattered. That is a very stark warning. But in this last year, we've seen

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a lot of lampstands get extinguished and a lot of pastors get exposed. And for things that they had

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done that they hadn't repented of and dealt with in the past or whatever, there's too many stories

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to talk about at this point, actually. And it's a, but what's your thoughts about that part of it?

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Yeah, it's one of those things that you hate, right? And it breaks your heart for the body of

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Christ and the church folk and even the leaders that make the mistake. I've got grace for messed

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up people. So I like to restore such a one in a spirit of meekness, but I do know God's the God

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of all grace and he'll give you so long to get your stuff ironed out, right? And I'm thankful for that

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grace. But at some point, the grace of God turns from you getting it fixed privately and the grace

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of God will then manifest in a way where you have to get it fixed publicly. And it might destroy

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your ministry or your church, but it might just save your soul too. So even exposure can be the

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grace of God. And we, you know, lampstands, but lampstands will suffer in the midst of that.

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And the lampstands is a picture of the church. So my heart's broken to see what's happened.

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It's one of those things that I never want to see a lampstand go out, but the lampstand becomes

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ineffective and it's no longer pushing light. And it's just an empty, you know, it's an empty lamp

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without a fire on the inside of it. The lampstand does us no good. And so God's the God that'll

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reorder things, restart things and remove some leaders. And we've seen it in 24 in a real

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drastic, I mean, stuff we didn't think would, we would see come the way it came, right? Especially,

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especially there are certain States. I mean, Texas has been affected big time. And I think

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when I see Texas affected big time, in a way, Texas is like the heart of America, middle America,

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everything's bigger in Texas. You go around the world and people want to know where you're from,

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the places they'll think about, they'll think about New York and they'll think about Cowboys

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in Texas. If you're in other countries, right? It's the way it is. Where are you from? From New

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York or you're from Texas? I think it's a symbol that God's reordering his heart. When you touch

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the Lone Star State, the heart of America, I think it's God wants his heart healed in his church.

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So they're out of the, we guard your heart with all diligence, out of it flows the issues of life.

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So there's been real heart surgery and I feel like the hand of God came and he's touched the

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church in 24. There's been some cuts that hurt, some exposure that's beginning to flow out of

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that. But I think healing starts in those places in 25. A lot of those areas that have been touched,

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God's already tapping on the shoulder of new apostolic leaders that'll come and fill roles.

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I see guys stepping up big time over the next 24 months. You'll have some voices come out of the

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cities that were really affected that will take, next 24 months, they'll take real national,

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growing spiritual leadership roles. Let me say it like that. Real national prominent,

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growing spiritual leadership roles. And God will take care of his church. And the church

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isn't built on any of us. So I am thankful for the call of God, but I can be replaced. And so

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let one be removed and another take his place and may the kingdom of God go upward and

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onward. And the guys that messed up, I pray nothing but the best form, grace of God.

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And I'm for them too. So I think we just got to pray and we got to believe God and look for new

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emerging leadership in new emerging churches, new lampstands. God loves his church.

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Here's what I think will happen. So judgment begins in the house of God. And I'm not saying

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that like this is a final judgment, but this is a part of judgment, right? God gives you so long

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the grace of God, but even God's grace is in his judgment. I believe that. I think it'll go,

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it begins in the house of the Lord and God has to start things there because the church is preeminent

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over everything, right? It is what he's building on the earth. But there'll be a trickle down the

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start now in 25 and governance and governmental judgment and the setting down and the rising up

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of new leaders. It's already started all over the world and it's coming to America in 25 and into

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26. You're going to see national leadership exposed in many different ways. You'll see

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in many different ways. You'll see congressmen exposed in many different ways. You'll even see

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local judges, DAs, people that have been in bed with foreign entities and policy makers.

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I see people in bed. I see this prophetically and I see like it's like they're in bed and honestly

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they're naked in bed. They're covered in covers and the hand of God comes, grabs the covers,

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and I see foreign flags on top of the covers, right? I see China. I see these covers and God's

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going to come. He's going to grab those covers and he's going to expose what's happening.

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So what you saw in the church in 24, you're going to see big time in 25 and then going into 26

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as well in a governmental level. And it's not going to fix everything, but there's going to be some

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real key aha moments. So prepare yourself. We're going into some interesting waters in 25 in that

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area. Yeah, for sure. So we talked about revival. We talked about these lampstands and you kind of

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transitioned into what God's saying about that for 2025 and even beyond. But what do you feel God's

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saying about revival, about the church? What are some other things that you feel like God's saying

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for 2025? Yeah, I think like I said earlier, the prayers and the intercession and going after God

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is so big right now. We're on the brink of World War III. So I'll sag into revival from here.

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This is not going to be an encouraging part where I start here, but we're on the brink of World War III.

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Some people would say we're already in a hot war or a war that's unseen right now, that World War

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III has already begun. I'm praying every day against World War III. I'm praying against nuclear war.

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I'm praying for peace. I'm praying against the war hawks and the industrial military complex

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that wants to trade blood for money. And so I spend a lot of time praying against that and

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interceding. And I saw this in September of this year, prophesied it in a conference I was at in

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Louisville, Kentucky, but I saw an exchange of missiles between the US and Russia. And then

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I couldn't tell what kind of exchange it was. I didn't think it was nuclear. I didn't know what

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it was. But I saw an exchange of missiles between the US and Russia in some shape, form, or fashion.

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And then I saw provocations keep escalating until February of 25. And then I saw something in

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February of 25 that I can't even describe what it was, but it was massive. And it was of the scale

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of things that had never happened on US soil before. I'll say it like that. It was nationally

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shaking. And God spoke to me and said this. He said, we could have a disaster, a calamity in February

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of 25, but if my people are called by my name, we'll humble themselves and pray, right? Repent,

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turn to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, seek his face. He would come and heal our land.

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And God said in February, instead of having some sort of national calamity, we could have

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some sort of national revival. We could take it and pray it and change the narrative and turn

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it the other way. So I've been praying wholeheartedly against something catastrophic coming in the first

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of the year, specifically February is the month I keep getting. I have other prophetic friends that

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have been saying first quarter, right? We've been talking and I think me and Joseph Z, Prophet Z,

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were talking the other day. And he has something like that at first quarter. And I'm like, you know,

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I saw February. So we're spending a lot of time praying and believing God to turn these situations

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and to do something here. So I do think that we have a great chance for a larger national revival.

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And in the midst of what's happened in those college campuses, God told me He's also tapping

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on the shoulders of young men and women right now to fill a lot of these voids that have come

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in leadership in America. That revival is about making another generation of leaders. You know,

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that's what happened with the Jesus Freak days out in California. They've been the pastors of

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the church for the last, what is it, 40 years, 50 years, something like that all over America.

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Well, they're aging out now. And my age group, I'm middle 40s. You know, there's got to be a group

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that replaces us. And I think in the midst of this madness, this revival has come to grab a hold of

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leaders, touch young people, set their hearts afire with God, and to get them in the game in America.

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And I think they're the guys that could usher in the greatest reformation, greatest revival we've

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ever had. And what we have to do to steward in our age group and older right now, guys that have the

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reins right now, we have to pray and be level-headed, seek God. We need to fight once again for

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national leadership positions, governance and governmental positions, and get back in the game

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so these people can't take us to a nuclear Holocaust. Right? There's a lot to be won and a

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lot to be lost now. And we better stay sober and serious, and it's time to pray.

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Yeah. You know, you mentioned about the generational transitions, okay? And so we had the

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Jesus People movements of the 70s. And now it's kind of like, here's another generation that's

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about to break out, and these next generation of leaders will rise up. And as you were talking

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about that, I was just, in my mind, picturing the succession of kings in the Old Testament,

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and how from one king to another, the kingdom could be drastically different. And that transition

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period, you could either have like, you know, a good king, and then a bad king, or you can have

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a bad king and then a good king, or you can have a series of bad kings. But, you know, that

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transition period is vital. And so we're in that right now, I believe. And that's something that

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we need to be looking out for. And I know that God's going to raise up the right people, because

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because it's obviously a different parallel than the Old Testament kings. But that transition

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period is what I felt was the thing that we need to really be praying for regarding that.

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That's exactly right. And that's a great way to illustrate what's happening. You know, when kings

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get sick or kings die in the Old Testament, all hell breaks loose, right? Everybody starts fighting

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for power, all sorts of- Or when presidents are lame ducks.

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Yeah. You know, it's just, it's the same kind of thing, right? Right now. And so, yeah, everybody's

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grabbing to get ahold of theirs right now. And we need to pray because it's a transition time,

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is a dangerous time. It's a time of great opportunity, but it's a dangerous time

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for kingdoms. And it's when people are carried off into captivity often, or they step up and

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another leader emerges. So we need to pray for godly leaders to emerge. I don't want to just

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prophesy gloom and doom over 25, but I mean, it is a somber, serious moment in world history.

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You're talking about, we hadn't had a moment like this since you get back in the 30s,

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going up to World War II at this level. And I think it is a time, our January fast,

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churches all over America fast in January, probably the most significant fast we've had

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corporately for our nation in many, many years. And I really believe, I believe everything isn't

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set in stone. I believe we can cooperate with the grace of God, speed up or slow down prophetic

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timelines, but I think we can extend grace if we'll go after what God has for us here in the next

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few months. Amen. And talking about that extending grace, I mean, you've had kind of like an ongoing

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revival at your church over this last year or so, and you've seen some things that are kind of

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unexplainable and you were actually critical of before you started experiencing them. Can you tell

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us about some of those things? Yeah, well, we revival broke out in October of 23 at our church.

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We have churches in Texas and also Kentucky, but specifically in our Amarillo location, we had

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crazy stuff happen. Like Spirit of God came in, angels are like touching people. People are like

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something's touched me. I don't know what's there. All sorts of healings broke out. Two guys, not one,

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you don't hear this a lot, and it sounds almost so fantastic. It's hard to believe, but two guys

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dropped dead in our church services. And so, you know, my preaching was so bad, I guess it was

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killing people, but the good thing was, is that through the power of prayer, both of those guys

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were literally resurrected in front of the crowd, you know? So I've never witnessed anything like

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that. And that kicked off a move of the Spirit and people talking about what's going on. People got

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excited and the power of God's come in. And we've seen every kind of healing, every kind of miracle.

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I'm talking cancers, hearts, eyes, ears, you name it, bones, just the miracles. There's so many

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testimonies we're forgetting about the miracles now. So we're trying to do due diligence to make

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sure somebody's journaling, you know, the testimonies when they come back in, because you don't want to

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lose. You want to celebrate appropriately what God has done. It's just been amazing. But there

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have been some odd manifestations too. And we were talking about that before we came on. And I've

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seen something that I hadn't seen in 20 years. And I used to be a big critic of this kind of stuff.

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So I was even careful when it started happening how much I would talk about it. But 20 years ago,

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over 20 years ago, my brother went to a church that I thought they were just weird and bizarre.

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And they started talking about like gold dust falling on people and these kinds of things.

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And I'm kind of like, well, I don't see that written about in the New Testament back then,

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you know? I had a more narrow view of what signs and wonders mean, right? I mean, what's the

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wonder? The signs are listed in Matthew chapter 16. The wonders aren't. So the wonders are

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innumerable, but it says these signs shall follow them to believe. But then there are wonders.

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What's a wonder? A wonder is something that makes you wonder. I don't know what it is. You know,

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I don't have an explanation. I'm not going to try to clean it all up for you. And there's something

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about Western Christianity that wants an answer for everything. There's a term Paul talked about

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the mystery, you know, of the gospel. It would do us some good to understand there's some mystery

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in an all loving, all knowing, all seeing God, right? It's like, I don't have God figured out.

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I know who Jesus is, I understand the gospel, but I don't have it all figured out. So I go to this,

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I go to this meeting to prove this guy wrong. Okay, that this guy's, this is false. There's not

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gold falling on people. You're crazy. I go walk it into the meeting. I get a call and my dad calls

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me says, Brian, your dog's been hit by a truck and his legs broken vets closed. And we're from a

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small town, but he says, I'm going to take him in first thing in the morning, trying to get a hold

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of him. So I'm like, Oh man, my dog's been hit. I go in and the prophet I go to criticize his name

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was my is Mahesh Shafda and written many books. People know about him all over the world. Mahesh

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has been around a long time. So I'll walk in and that gold has fallen when I get in there and I can

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see it. And I'm trying to look to see if it's a con, you know, are they pumping this out air vents?

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Right. What's that? What's happening here? And all of a sudden Mahesh has a word of knowledge and he

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says, there's a guy in the room. Your dog's just been hit by a truck. His legs broken, but God wants

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to heal your dog. Why? I don't want to be the dog healing guy. I don't want to answer the call.

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My sister in law sells me out. She starts screaming, it's him, it's him, it's him.

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So I stand up Mahesh praise and I go out, call my dad and my dog, my dad reports, man, your dog is

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totally healed. I don't know what's happened. His leg is no longer broken. It touched my dad and my

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dad got born again. So my dad got born again because some prophet manifested a bizarre

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manifestation, right? Gave a word of knowledge and God healed a dog. There's going to be so many

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people, so many people make fun of me for this story, but I'm telling you, it's, it's, I was there,

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it happened. It's, it's the power of God. So I haven't seen those manifestations for about 20

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years, but they started showing up at our church again and gold would start just, I don't know,

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it's like gold dust, gold, whatever you want to call it. You know, I shouldn't even call it gold

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because I haven't like taken in, haven't tested. I'm just telling you, it shows up everywhere.

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And I wouldn't even collect it. You know, I haven't collected it, but I've collected some of the stuff

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that comes in like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people pick it up and carry it out all the

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time, this stuff and, and it comes thicker at times. So I wouldn't even talk about it because I know,

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you know, the kind of like harassment and what people are going to say. And it's, it's, it is

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hard to explain. Yeah. And you don't want your church to become that destination. That's not what

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I want. That's I'm a gospel preacher, right? So, so, you know, guys that have like deliverance

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ministries, I'm not that guy. I'm a gospel preacher. So do I cast out devils? Yeah. Am I a healing guy?

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No, I'm a gospel guy. So when I preach the gospel, people get healed. So for me, gospel is center

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and these other manifestations, they happen because when you preach the gospel stuff happens,

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right? Signs and wonders, follow them to believe. So it's not like I jumped on the gold train and

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made a gold church Instagram, uh, you know, you know, handle profit of gold. I didn't want that.

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So I wouldn't hardly talk about it first, but it kept happening and people are seeing it and they're

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looking around and people are going around after services, picking it up. And it's a wonder. I mean,

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and it'll show up real thick at times. And sometimes it's just a little here and there.

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Often it shows up on people's hands and worship. Do I know why it does that? I think it's just God

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getting people's attention, right? It makes them wonder and it makes them wonder what's happening.

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And there's a lot of critics of this kind of thing out there and, you know, whatever, they have a

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right to their opinion. Uh, I don't lose a lot of sleep about what critics think anymore. I live in

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a, I'm a, I'm a gospel preacher in America in 24. We don't care what you think about us anymore.

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Right. Um, I care about what Jesus thinks. So, so other manifestations happen too, like oil,

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we'll just show up and pour out of people's hands and a pretty amazing manifestation of the spirit.

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And some people will say, well, what is the purpose? I'll give you an example.

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I think it's God showing that he can break into the now anytime he wants to. Right. And then I

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think when people get hungry enough for God, the atmosphere gets thinner. Uh, the Celtic Christians

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talked about a thin place, right? They would even dedicate places of prayer. They would say it was a

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thin place. And the idea was the veil between man and God has gotten thin. When I think about heaven,

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I think about a place with streets paved with gold. I think about a crystal sea. I think about

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gemstones. I think about all this stuff that's beautiful. I think maybe the veil gets thin

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enough, a little bit of heaven blows into the atmosphere. And that's what you're seeing. Uh,

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let your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth. I mean, that's what we've been praying.

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As it is in heaven. Yeah.

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Yeah. So, so that's the best I can explain and do with it. Um, now I'll say this, the oil thing,

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I had a buddy and oil started like it would pour out of my, it still pours out of my hands

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when I preach and stuff. And, uh, almost always if I'm ministering, there's, there's oil in the palms

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of my hands now and, uh, it's hard on suits, but it's, it's a glorious manifestation. Uh, but I had

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a buddy, I was telling him, I was getting ready to preach for him. I said, man, I got this, uh,

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this oil has been showing up in my meetings. We've been friends forever. And he kind of looked at me

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like, uh-huh, yeah, Brian, you know? And, and so I just, I get it. I get why somebody would be like

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that. And the next day in service worship is going on. Me and my wife walk in by the guy that kind of

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like, it kind of looked at me funny. He's standing in church. And, uh, when we walk in, stand by him,

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all of a sudden he starts looking down at his hands and he runs out to the bathroom. This guy's

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like a three-piece suit, suited and booted kind of guy. Um, even his family member runs like a

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custom clothe. Everything's perfect on this man. So he's looking at his hands. He doesn't know what's

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on his hands. He runs to the bathroom, washes his hands, comes back out oil still pouring out of his

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hands. I turn around now he's weeping and he looks at me like, what have you done? What have you done?

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What have you done to me? And I'm like, you shouldn't made fun of me, man. So here's what he

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does with that. Uh, he goes to get his suits tailored like the next week and he walks in and

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there's some Muslim guys in the tailor shop. They run the tailor shop in Louisville, Kentucky. And

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one of them says, I know you, I know you, I've seen you before. And he's like, well, maybe you saw me

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on TV, but he's like, no, no, I know you. He's like, we're Muslim, but our sister is Christian.

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And she started going to a church where you're at. And she brought us a video. The Muslim said,

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you're the oil guy. Cause they took a video of him. It was on TV over there. You know, you're the,

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you're the oil guy. My friend's like, well, I'm not the oil guy, but that happened to me.

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And they're like, make it happen. Show us. We want to see it. And he's like, he's like, I can't just,

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you know, I can't just manifest oil at any time I want to. And he said, but I'll pray for y'all.

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Can I pray? And they said, yeah. And he started praying and the oil started flowing out of his

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hands and the Muslim saw it. And by the time he left, there were three Muslims on their knees

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receiving Jesus in Louisville, Kentucky. Why do we need signs and wonders? Um, they grabbed the

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attention of those that can't be reached any other way. Right. You think about dreams of Jesus in the

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Middle East. Why is it like that? Well, you, it takes something drastic to grab the mindset of

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somebody was raised in Islam and show them a resurrected Jesus. So God's a God that gives us

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signs and wonders and they're supposed to follow us. Uh, stuff like this is supposed to happen.

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I just, it's here. I'm on a, I'm that guy now. You know what I mean? I'm just embracing it. I'm

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going to roll with it. Whatever God wants to do. He can do it through me. I love it. I love it.

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This is a year from a manifestation for signs and wonders. Um, so there's things that we need to be

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praying about praying against, but we need to be looking up and looking for those signs and wonders

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because people are going to be wondering what's causing this and we need to be able to lead them

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to Jesus. So pastor Brian, thank you so much for sharing what God has done in 2024 and what you see

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God doing in 2025. Thank you so much. Hey, it was an honor to be with you today.