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So there's a real separation that's been happening.
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What's gonna happen is these two simultaneous revolutions
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at once, kind of everything coming to a head.
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It's almost like if you're watching a movie
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and it's the action packed part of the movie,
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it's the climax of the movie.
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That's where I feel like we're at.
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Todd Coconato, it's great to have you here on Charisma News
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to share what God is speaking to you about the year 2024
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and what we need to be prepared for in this upcoming year.
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So welcome here to Charisma News.
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Hey John, it's great to be back with you.
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Yeah, thanks so much for joining us here
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and I know that God has been speaking to you.
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We actually tried to do this earlier,
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but some things came up
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and we weren't able to record at that point.
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But we've been talking
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and God is definitely speaking a lot
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of different things right now.
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So what is God speaking to you in preparation for 2024?
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
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So he's given me this term two simultaneous revolutions.
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And so it's similar
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to what some other prophetic voices are speaking about.
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I've heard some of my friends say
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there's gonna be a war and a roar in 24.
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And so this kind of goes along the same lines
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of there's two simultaneous revolutions.
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So what I mean by that is we're gonna continue
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to see increased turbulence.
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There's gonna be a much more bumpy ride this next year
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and we should anticipate that.
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But at the same time, the saints
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that are what I call remnant people,
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people that hunger and thirst for righteousness,
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the body of Christ, the real ecclesiast of the body,
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they have been strengthened and fortified in their faith
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over the last few years.
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Because of some of the crazy things that we've been through,
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I think that God has allowed this time
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for us to really go into the secret place
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and get deeper in his word,
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because otherwise you couldn't make it.
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You know, we've gotta have a strong walk with the Lord
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and be unshakable.
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And so I believe that the church,
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those that are truly Christians
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that really love the Lord and are serving him
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have been fortified and strengthened.
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So as there's this turbulent ride
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where we're gonna see unrest
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and all different types of things,
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I think we'll go through some of those
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that the Lord has shown me specifically.
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But I believe that while that's happening,
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we're gonna see a Jesus revolution.
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We're gonna see increased revival, you know,
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or awakening happening where people are hungry.
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They're coming to know Jesus.
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We're already seeing pockets of revival.
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We've seen this now for the last few years.
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And I think those different streams
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are starting to come together.
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And listen, this isn't about somebody's name.
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It's not about a particular ministry.
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It's not about a particular church.
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It's about those that understand
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that the dower that we're in, that discern,
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that have the isekar anointing
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of understanding and discerning the times.
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We realize the hour is extremely late.
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And so we need to be about the business of the Lord.
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And so there's a real separation that's been happening.
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And what's gonna happen is
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these two simultaneous revolutions at once,
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kind of everything coming to a head.
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It's almost like if you're watching a movie
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and it's the action packed part of the movie,
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it's the climax of the movie.
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That's where I feel like we're at.
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So you said there's two simultaneous revolutions
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that are happening.
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Okay, are they both in the same general direction
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or is one good and one's bad?
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What's, how do we deal with this?
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Because I know if we're looking at the weather map,
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you've got like a low pressure system
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and a high pressure system.
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And what happens in the middle is,
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oh, if you get too many of those actually,
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you actually get tornadoes and a lot of storms.
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So how do we prepare for the storm
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if one's gonna be a good thing
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and one's gonna be a bad thing?
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Well, it's like that old saying,
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the best of times and the worst of times at the same time.
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But what it is is you're right, it's two different fronts.
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So one is good and one is bad.
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And it's kind of like Mount Carmel
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where they're coming together here
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and the prophets of God versus the prophets of Baal.
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That's really where,
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I mean, this is a time where we can't be on the fence.
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We can't be fence sitting.
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We have to pick a side, lighter darkness.
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You have to be all in if you're in the Lord
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and no compromise, no leaven.
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I think this is a time we really consecrate.
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We've talked about that in past interviews,
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but consecration, holiness,
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restoring the foundations of our faith.
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This isn't like a greasy grace season.
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This isn't a time where it's like a wide gate strategy.
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This is for the people that are serious about their walk.
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And so the Lord showed me an example of a plane
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and he's the pilot, right?
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And we're going through some extreme turbulence,
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but we're gonna be okay.
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The plane's not gonna crash,
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but be prepared because it's gonna get bumpy.
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And that's what's gonna happen in 24.
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There's gonna be a lot of folks trying to pull
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a lot of things, especially in the political arena.
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I mean, we've already seen the last few days now,
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states are trying to get Donald Trump off the ballot.
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Look what's happening in Colorado.
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I think we're gonna see more of these types of things.
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We're seeing increased persecution
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of people that are speaking truth.
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They're coming after folks
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in ways that we haven't seen in the past
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here in the Western world.
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I mean, look at what happened with Rudy Giuliani
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or any of these guys that spoke out
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during the 2020 election.
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They're now being targeted.
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You got the folks that were down there in January 6
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that are basically being held without due process.
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A lot of these guys have been in jail
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for a long period of time.
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So, I mean, this is an increase in all of these areas.
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And so it's the spirit of the Antichrist,
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which is really rising in this late hour.
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And we've always known that the target
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is Bible believing Christians.
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It's the church.
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And so in the past, this was a little bit more hidden.
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We kind of thought maybe left versus right,
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or it's a political issue,
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but this is definitely a spiritual matter
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that's coming to a head.
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So to your point, tornadoes in the spirit.
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I mean, that's kind of what's happening as a result,
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but we as the body of Christ,
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we need to be fortified in the word.
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We need to be trusting in our faith in Jesus Christ
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more than ever.
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He is the author and finisher.
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He says to occupy until he comes.
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He says he's with us until the end of the age.
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He says he'll never leave us.
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He'll never forsake us.
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And so we're on mission right now.
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But if you're a believer in this hour, it's no mistake.
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It's not a mistake that we're alive in this time.
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And so our job is to be in the presence of the Lord,
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to be focused on the mission that he's given us,
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which is about souls and kingdom business.
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And we can't be moved by all these different things
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because we've got to be prepared.
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I mean, I think that there's a movie that just came out,
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John, I don't know if you saw this.
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It's a Netflix.
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I don't have Netflix, but I saw it on somebody,
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one of my friend's accounts,
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but they have this movie that Obama and his wife produced.
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Did you hear about this?
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No, I haven't.
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It's crazy.
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And it's something about leave the world behind
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or something along those lines.
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I think the name of it is, but what it is,
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it's a movie that's produced by Obama and his wife.
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And basically it's showing a large scale cyber event
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that happened here in the United States.
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And when I see these types of things,
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I think about event 201 that happened pre-pandemic.
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And I'm not gonna get too into that
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because I don't wanna get kicked off the street.
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But the deal is that I feel like they signal sometimes
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their wicked agenda or their plans.
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And so what we can do when we see these types of things
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is we can pray against the wicked agenda.
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We can pray against the plans.
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And so it seems like, I mean,
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even if you look at Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum,
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they've talked about a cyber Pearl Harbor type event,
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where it would be a major catastrophe.
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And what's interesting about that is we know
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that they're also building up to digital currencies
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and different things that they have coming down the pike.
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We have the FedNow app and the digital dollar
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that's being rolled out.
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These are very real things.
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So how could they advance something like that?
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Well, if there was a major event,
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that would be a way that they could really quick
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advance that.
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And so we know that the enemy has plans,
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but we also know that the Lord is alerting
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spiritual intercessors, you know, Christians,
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that are prayer warriors to intercede and pray
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against these plans of the enemy.
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And I think a lot of times that's why he gives us
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a prophetic warning so that we can pray against these things.
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So I think these are some of their plans.
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Another thing that I think that they could potentially do
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is replace Joe Biden.
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We know that you got Michelle Obama
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that many on the left would love to see up there.
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You got Gavin Newsom who's positioning himself,
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even debating guys like Ron DeSantis and things like that.
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So there's a lot of things in the works, John.
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And so we just need to be aware of these.
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You know, there's a lot of things
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that are going on right now,
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but I've been doing several interviews with people
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about what God is saying about 2024,
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but I'm kind of noticing a common thread.
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And I just wanna kind of compare this with you.
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Okay.
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Things are going to get worse,
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but for the people of God,
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we know where our hope is found.
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And because our hope is found in Christ,
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we're not gonna be harmed.
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Things around us might be in turmoil,
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but we are going to rise above.
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That seems to be a common thread
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that we can kind of hold onto.
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As dark as things might be,
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our hope needs to remain in Jesus Christ,
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not even in a prophetic word that somebody gave,
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but our hope needs to be in Jesus Christ.
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That's exactly right.
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And in fact, we can't rely on somebody else's prophetic word
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or things like that.
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We have to hear from the Lord.
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We have to be in prayer regularly.
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We gotta have a regular prayer life.
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I'm talking every day in the word of God,
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you know, worshiping the Lord and hearing from him.
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The Bible says, my sheep hear my voice.
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And to your point,
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I do believe that there is a protection
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that's offered to the saints of God,
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those that are about the business of the Lord.
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And the way that works is, I mean, if you think about it,
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even in this former Soviet Union
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or in the underground church in China,
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the underground church is thriving right now in China.
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In fact, there's revival that's happening.
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People won't hear about it on the mainstream corporate media,
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but this is happening right now.
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And these folks are probably more on fire
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than most Western Christians
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because they know what desperation is.
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and be in his presence.
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And if you think about it,
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I mean, that's what Paul was able to effectively do.
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You know, David encouraged themselves in Christ.
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This is what we're gonna need to learn how to do,
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is encourage ourselves in Christ.
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And remember, we're citizens of heaven.
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We're in the world, but we're not of the world.
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And so what I believe firmly to your point
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is that when we focus our,
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instead of when we wake up, say,
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Lord, what can you do for me?
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You know, can I get this thing?
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Can I get that thing?
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Can you answer this prayer?
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What if we align ourselves with the spirit of God
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and say, Lord, what can I do for you?
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How can I show up best to serve you today?
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What can I do today to have divine appointments
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and be about your business?
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When this happens, the favor of the Lord is on us.
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The blessing of the Lord is on us.
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Financially, we'll be taken care of it
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because if you make it about souls and kingdom business,
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the Lord, you can't out give God.
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You know, he's gonna make a way where there is no way.
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And I know this because we've seen it in the ministry
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for years now, even in 2008,
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during the major crash in the economy at that time.
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I mean, we prospered because we continue to be
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about the business of the Lord.
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And so I just really believe
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that God's hand in favor is on those,
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but we've got to get rid of vain imaginations.
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We've got to get rid of, you know,
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motives that are not of the Lord.
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We can't compare ourselves to others.
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We've got to walk out our calling and just be faithful.
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Amen. Walking out our calling and be faithful.
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You can't walk out somebody else's calling
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because you're gonna end up tripping
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because those are somebody else's shoes
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that you're trying to wear.
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That's not a good thing.
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You know, God's given us, you know,
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the hand can't say to the foot, you know,
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I have no need of you or, you know,
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whatever part of the body that is,
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but like we have to work together.
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You know, Todd, I want to ask you just to kind of summarize
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what it is that God's saying for, you know,
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for this next year.
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Can you give us maybe in three points,
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what is God saying?
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And then in three action points, what do we do?
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Okay. So I mean, from the three points,
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I would say it's gonna get turbulent.
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There's gonna be some tests that you're gonna have
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to walk through in your faith.
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And don't expect everything to be like it's been
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the last 20 years in America.
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We're gonna see things that we have never seen before.
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And so be prepared in your mind for those things.
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But here's the good news, okay,
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is that we press in more than ever in prayer.
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We fast, we do the things that the scripture says.
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We actually walk this out in a way
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that the Bible tells us to do, you know,
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with the tools that the Lord gives us.
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And as we do that,
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the favor and the blessing of the Lord is on us.
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So the thing is, is don't be moved or shaken
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when you see the storms of life coming,
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wars, rumors of wars.
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You know, there's gonna be an increase.
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I believe in that.
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We're gonna try to pull everything possible,
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but we're not gonna be shaken like we were in the past
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because we're more fortified, we're more mature in the Lord,
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and we've gone deeper in these last few years.
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And so I think the Lord has prepared His body for this time
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because if this would have just happened, you know,
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maybe say after 2016 right away,
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you know, we wouldn't have been prepared.
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We're much more mature as the body of Christ.
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We've seen things that we've never seen before
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and we've had to react and respond.
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And so for those that are standing
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and those that have stood, we've learned,
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you know, we're battle hardened now.
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And I pray that for everybody that's watching.
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And if you're not, listen, this is the time to get serious.
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This is the time to press in
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and not rely on somebody else's words,
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somebody else's faith.
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This is the time to have that personal relationship
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with the Lord and He's gonna be with us.
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Amen, amen.
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Todd, would you just pray for the people
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that are watching right now
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that they would be able to grab ahold of the action
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of what they need to do for this?
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Yes, absolutely.
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So Lord, we just thank you
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for everybody that's watching right now.
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And I just pray that the words that were spoke today
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would take just seed in our heart.
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They take root in our heart
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and that we would be that fortified believer,
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that we would not be shaken.
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We would not be moved.
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We would not be, you know, running or, you know, hiding,
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but we would stand in this hour knowing that,
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Lord, you are with us
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and you're gonna give us everything that we need.
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And so our faith is in you, our trust is in you.
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Everything that we need is in you.
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You are the firm foundation.
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You are the place where the righteous run in
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and they are safe, the strong tower.
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And so I pray you are to shield around us, Lord God,
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that you protect us and that there is favor.
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In 24, I pray open doors.
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I pray that we would indeed roar as the body of Christ,
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that we'd be lions and generals
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and that we would step into the calling
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that you've given us in this hour.
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And most of all, that we'd have the joy and the peace, Lord.
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The peace that passes understanding.
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And you say joy unspeakable.
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It's the joy of you that is our strength, Lord.
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So I bless those that are watching in Jesus' name.
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Amen, amen.
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Todd, as we're wrapping up here,
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anything else that you wanna say before we close?
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Well, I would just say, you know,
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make sure that you do take that time every day
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to get alone with the Lord.
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I think that's gonna be what gets us through
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is that we have that act of prayer life.
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I can't tell you, John,
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how many times I go into the secret place discouraged
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or having a big question and I come out,
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recharge and strengthen and the Lord gives me direction.
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And so it is essential that we have a prayer life.
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And if we do that,
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I believe we're gonna be set up for success.
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Amen, amen.
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Todd Coconato, thank you so much for sharing
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what God is speaking to you about the year 2024
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and how we, the body of Christ, can prepare for what's ahead.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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One more.