Prophetic Voices Stir American Church to Action: Jentezen Franklin, Eric Metaxas & Jonathan Cahn

1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600
Dr. Malachi O'Brien, thanks so much for joining us again.

2
00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,900
You wanted to give some more commentary to what happened at the faith leaders

3
00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:08,940
summit in Georgia.

4
00:00:08,940 --> 00:00:14,500
And so tell me about these these two speakers that really stood out to you.

5
00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,980
That was Eric Metaxas and Jensen Franklin.

6
00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:23,480
What was the feeling like in the room and what were their messages that they had?

7
00:00:24,020 --> 00:00:25,280
Absolutely. And thanks, John.

8
00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,520
Honor to be back. And I hope everybody kind of caught the last video that we did

9
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,460
with Rabbi Jonathan Khan, which has seemed to gone viral now across the Internet.

10
00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:33,660
His word to President Trump.

11
00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:34,660
So I do hope they watch that.

12
00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:40,200
But there were 23 different speakers that took the stage that day for three minutes each.

13
00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,340
But there were two there were two that really did stick out to me,

14
00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:46,700
two of which are personal friends.

15
00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:50,980
But they had like an anointed maybe even a prophetic word for the moment.

16
00:00:50,980 --> 00:00:55,940
One was Pastor Jensen Franklin, pastors free chapel there in Georgia.

17
00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:58,240
Obviously, prolific author on fasting.

18
00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,080
But there was just there was just a pastoral word there given

19
00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,160
that was just amazing.

20
00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,360
But God knew that America would be at this crossroad.

21
00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:14,060
And he knew that as the pulpit goes, so goes the nation.

22
00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:19,700
And he knew that he could have confidence in you, pastor,

23
00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:24,680
that you would stand up for the truth of God's word.

24
00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,500
We're not politicians, we're preachers.

25
00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:32,780
And every time we get up and lead our flock down the path of righteousness,

26
00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:34,640
the Bible is right.

27
00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,420
The Bible is good.

28
00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:38,780
The Bible is not hate speech.

29
00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:42,220
The Bible is what sets captives free.

30
00:01:43,220 --> 00:01:47,860
And honestly, even Pastor Jensen pastors, one of the largest churches in the nation.

31
00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:51,860
And yet in these last several months, he has been bold, he has been prophetic.

32
00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:56,860
He has taken a stand in this hour of history, especially leading up to the election.

33
00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:00,140
So I hope everybody watches that three minute segment.

34
00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:05,680
And then Eric Metaxas, who I believe is a modern day Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

35
00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:10,740
took the stage and even with his voice being a little bit out, it was sharp.

36
00:02:10,740 --> 00:02:12,780
It was powerful. It cut deep.

37
00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:19,180
It was almost like the Lord gave us some of the most piercing, piercing words of the hour,

38
00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:21,820
not so much because it was painful, but because it went deep.

39
00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:28,800
And so I know when people watch those clips, they probably will be drawn to get on their face

40
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,560
and pray and be moved to action.

41
00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,300
Some of you familiar with the story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

42
00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:39,400
Some of you know that the Lord called me prophetically to write that story in my mother's womb

43
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,440
for such a time as this.

44
00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:51,440
It's a story of a man who tried to get the church to wake up and to stand and to be the people of God

45
00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,580
and to speak out against satanic evil.

46
00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:58,120
And most in the church said, no, thank you.

47
00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160
What was your response to?

48
00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,060
Let's start off with Eric Metaxas.

49
00:03:02,060 --> 00:03:03,900
What was your response to what he said?

50
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,160
My response is I wish more pastors were as bold as he is and actually had a discerning spirit

51
00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,940
like he does for the hour that we are in and that we have to vote.

52
00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:19,540
Like to not to vote is to vote.

53
00:03:19,540 --> 00:03:27,980
And so I honestly, Eric Metaxas is like is like a shot in the arm that we need to be really stirred to action.

54
00:03:27,980 --> 00:03:36,360
And I think Eric can do that with a level of humor and a level of just sharpness that is just brings clarity and chaos.

55
00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:42,320
And so I thought that every generation deserves to have a voice like that.

56
00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,360
And I'm grateful that we do in Eric Metaxas.

57
00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:46,760
Yeah, not to vote is to vote.

58
00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,600
That's really stuck out to me for sure.

59
00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000
Now, what what stuck out to you about Pastor Jensen Franklin?

60
00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,240
You said that he's been very bold recently.

61
00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,580
He's got one of the largest churches in the nation and he's been very bold.

62
00:03:57,580 --> 00:03:59,240
What has he been bold about?

63
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:07,120
OK, so about a month, month and a half ago, he did a series of sermons, two or three on it's time to take a stand.

64
00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:16,460
And he made it very clear that this next election, it's not about who you're voting for, but about what you're voting for, not who, but what it's the policies.

65
00:04:16,460 --> 00:04:19,760
And he explained that in this next election, it's about Israel.

66
00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,340
It's about the next generation.

67
00:04:21,340 --> 00:04:28,300
And he used the reference that when when Peter stood up to preach on the day of Pentecost, there were others that stood with him that day.

68
00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:32,480
And it's not so much the main person on the platform that needs to take a stand.

69
00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,580
It's other people around that person that needs to take a stand.

70
00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:46,420
Maybe there would be more bold pastors in this hour if there were men and women in the church to say, Pastor, when you take a stand, we will take a stand with you.

71
00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:49,600
And so those sermons have been powerful.

72
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:59,900
And honestly, you know, it's kind of you don't expect that so much in this hour we live in from from mega churches and almost the sometimes the misnomer is to pastor mega church.

73
00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:04,440
You have to kind of be soft on issues, but that's the furthest thing from the truth in this hour.

74
00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,280
And that's definitely not the case at Free Chapel in Atlanta, Georgia.

75
00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:13,920
Pastor Jensen, and he does it with an anointed voice, a revival voice and a pastoral voice.

76
00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:20,620
Pastor Jensen, and maybe maybe on that day, he did more to encourage pastors in the audience that day.

77
00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:24,020
There were three thousand people there. Thousands were pastors and ministry leaders.

78
00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:28,560
I think he did more that day to give identity and encouragement to pastors than anybody else.

79
00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,100
And so I am grateful for that.

80
00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:32,700
It's great that there was so many pastors there.

81
00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:40,300
And I know that they spoke about having a an office of for Christian relations.

82
00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:42,540
Could you tell me a little bit more about that?

83
00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:49,140
Absolutely. Well, in the last administration, there was the Office of Faith and there the President Trump established

84
00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:52,320
they were able to bring ten thousand faith leaders through the White House.

85
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,420
And many times when they'd come into the White House, he would invite them into the Oval Office

86
00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:58,400
because he very much desired prayer.

87
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,600
But he made it very clear that in the new administration, he will establish that office again.

88
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,560
It'll be independent from anything else.

89
00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:12,000
It will report directly to him because he wants faith to influence every part of the government.

90
00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,540
He wants faith leaders to have access to the people's house, which is the White House.

91
00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:24,620
And so, as others have said in times past, Christians and pastors and ministry leaders are to be the counselors to the king.

92
00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:27,860
And I really believe he invites that in. And so it's encouraging.

93
00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:32,020
Again, we haven't had that in four years. We haven't had that kind of access in four years.

94
00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:33,820
But we're going to have that access again.

95
00:06:33,820 --> 00:06:39,700
And it's going to be access needed to move our country to righteousness and godliness, revival and awakening.

96
00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:52,080
From what you're saying, it sounds like he's going to be even more open to church leaders and pastors and hopefully prophets and apostles and evangelists and teachers and pastors as well.

97
00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,380
You know, the whole fivefold ministry involved there and not just people that are good at preaching on Sundays.

98
00:06:58,380 --> 00:07:05,060
You know, it would be good to have that whole the whole council there. What's your hope for that?

99
00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:20,980
My hope for that is that we do get people who aren't so much looking for a photo op, but they're looking to actually do ministry in and through the White House and then from the White House and their state and their legislature and their Senate and their city, their mayor.

100
00:07:20,980 --> 00:07:29,780
My hope is that we can change the culture in the church that believes that politics are evil, that we can change the culture in the church that believes if you get involved in politics,

101
00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:38,900
you're going to you're going to dilute the gospel and actually show people that being involved in politics is salt and light and that the church has the answer for everything society faces.

102
00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:45,540
And that is the gospel. And that is men and women filled with the spirit of God that see signs and wonders in their city.

103
00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:49,300
They can see it in their city. They can see it their state. They see it in the state. We can see it in the nation.

104
00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:53,580
So my hope is that what happens there gets replicated in every state.

105
00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:58,620
And what happens there stays in the White House for many more administrations to come.

106
00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:06,540
Dr. Malachi O'Brien, thank you so much for joining us today and taking the time to tell us even more about the important things that happened at that faith summit.

107
00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:33,540
Thank you, John. Appreciate it.