Revival in 2 States! Pastor Brian Gibson's Prophetic Awakening

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And I didn't know he's a full-fledged cessationist

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and that he hated Charismatics back then.

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I didn't know he'd written books about guys like me.

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But I'm driving down the road

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and he and I rented a car together, we're riding together.

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The guy calls me, a friend of mine, Pastor Shane Warren.

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He's like, hey, hey Gibson,

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are you ministering with Locke right now?

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I'm like, yeah, he's like, he hates guys like you.

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So he says on the phone and I'm like, I'm riding by him.

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I'm like, well, we're getting along pretty good right now.

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You know, things are going.

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I didn't even know how bad it was freaking Locke out

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because we're like driving in the car forever

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and flying on planes together.

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But I pray in tongues a lot.

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And you know, instead of cussing

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when somebody pulls over on me in an interstate,

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I think it's better.

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My flesh wants to cuss.

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I think it's better to talk in tongues.

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Pastor Brian Gibson, it's great to have you here

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on Charisma News.

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And we've been hearing some amazing things

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that God is doing in your church,

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but it's actually his church.

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I love the name of that church

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because you're trying to keep the emphasis

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that it is his church, it's God's church.

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So welcome here to Charisma News.

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Hey, it's an honor to be with you, John.

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What an honor.

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And it is his church.

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You know, we've hung our hats on Matthew 16, 18.

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Jesus said, I will build my church

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and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

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So that's like the guiding scripture of my life

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that everything we do, it's about Jesus.

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And we're just trying to stay out of the way

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and let him do what he wants to do, man.

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But thanks for having me.

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What an honor.

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Amen, amen.

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Yeah, it's an honor to have you here

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and to talk about the revival that is really happening

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at your churches, the different campuses that you have.

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And I know that we're gonna talk about this in a little bit,

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but you just had Jonathan Cahn there and Greg Locke,

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which are two of our authors here at Charisma.

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And we follow their ministries very closely

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and we're excited whenever we saw

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that you basically had these guys back to back.

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And it's not because they were already like scheduled

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for something, God has been moving in your church.

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And I wanna hear about this revival that's been breaking out

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and you've been saying that you've been actually feeling

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things like physically too.

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So tell us about what God is doing at his church.

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Yeah, it's been wild and been incredible.

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I'm exhausted.

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I've done like two solid weeks

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of preaching right now every night, right?

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But it's been great.

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We had a couple of conferences.

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We did have some conferences scheduled, right?

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So we got churches in Kentucky, Owensboro, Henderson,

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then we have a church in Amarillo, Texas.

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So we do a conference on the Texas side,

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then we'll turn around the next week,

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do a conference on the Kentucky side.

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But what happened in Texas is I'm there one night

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with a friend of mine, I think Daniel,

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Pastor Daniel Bracken just built the largest church house

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in the state of Alaska, a powerful man.

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Pastor Shane Warren is in there as well with me,

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me and my wife, and we're just hanging out in worship.

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And man, you could sense and tell the power

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of God's coming to the room.

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And as I'm standing there, I did feel something like,

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I'm real careful with my language like this,

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so I don't over sensationalize stuff, but in worship,

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I physically felt something touch me on the head.

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And I opened up my eyes and there's nothing there.

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And I didn't say anything to anybody

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because I'm like, what is that?

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Is that a flashback from acid in the 90s?

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Was it the spine crack?

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Well, my wife, who never took acid, by the way,

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she's standing beside me, she's a good kid,

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preacher's daughter, I was an outlaw that Jesus saved.

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She's standing beside me and she turns around

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and she says, did you feel that?

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Now I'm like, she's like, something just touched me.

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And Daniel Bracken, Pastor Daniel,

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without us saying anything to him, he said,

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man, I think there's angels in here,

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something's touched me.

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Pastor Shane Warren said the same thing,

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all independent of each other.

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He's like, something walked by me and just brushed me.

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And Pastor Shane said it when he was in the pulpit,

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but I'm telling you, like the power and the anointing

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and the presence of God just started to settle

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into the room and miracles started happening, right?

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There's a lady with a blocked aorta,

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no blood flow into her legs.

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And none of us prayed for her,

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the ushers prayed for her that night.

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And she went back and her aorta was opened up.

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Guys that like 10 year rotator cuff issues,

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like couldn't get their arm over their head,

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claimed that their rotator cuff totally healed.

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A kid, I would not suggest this,

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that needed reconstructive knee surgery,

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an athlete, right, but fairly young,

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still strong, working out and stuff,

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said God touched his knee, went in the next day

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and put 350 on the squat rack and did it.

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Like, I'm like, I do not suggest doing that, right?

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That's not, but miracles, I mean, just started happening.

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And people got excited and crowds started coming, right?

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This is before any names or, you know, any big names,

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all of us are, the guys that are there,

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we're all successful pastors and strong ministry gifts,

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but not-

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Right, you're just having a church conference.

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This is not like a big national thing yet.

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This is just, you're just having your regular conference.

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We're just having church and people start showing up

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and people are excited.

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I'll tell you what happened to me.

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I preached one night, we,

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Wednesday night it was supposed to be over,

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it was Sunday through Wednesday,

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but the power of God was so rich and real,

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we said, hey, we gotta keep, Jesus, I mean, we didn't,

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I don't know, you know,

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we didn't follow any keys to revival,

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we didn't pray enough, fast enough or anything.

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God just showed up to help his people.

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And we extended it.

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We extended the revival and I was preaching one night

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I was preaching, I wanna get people in love with Jesus

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again, right?

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I mean, that's the only answer we have, right?

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Right.

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America's messed up.

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We need a revival.

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There is no political remedy for our nation.

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And I'm a fairly political guy, but nobody can fix this.

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The only thing that can help this nation is an awakening.

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So I don't think like our Republic can be saved

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or anything like that at this point,

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although I'm still praying and hopeful,

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but I do think a revival can change our nation.

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And so I was preaching out of where John, you know,

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says there's one coming after me,

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I'm not even worthy to tie shoes.

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I'll baptize you with water,

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but there's one coming that will baptize you with fire.

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Jesus walks up the next day, right?

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It's the next day, John's prophesying.

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It says the next day Jesus walks up,

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John says, behold the lamb of God,

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takes away the sin of the world.

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And so I'm preaching, behold the lamb, right?

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Look at all, look to the lamb with awe and expectation

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and love and wonder, we need to see the lamb.

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And I get down and I'm like,

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I'm praying for a new passion for Jesus in our church.

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And I was laying hands on people in the altar

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and I had a mini, I don't know,

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I didn't see him with my eyes, let's call it a vision,

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whatever you wanna call it, you know, these things are,

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people see different, hear different,

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we all interact with the spirit of God,

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just a little bit different,

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because we're people and we're fearfully

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and wonderfully made, right?

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I'm walking through the altar, I look to my right

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and in my spirit, I see Jesus walking by me.

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Wow.

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Right, just for a second, it's not with my eyes,

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it's with my spirit, with my heart, it's the way I see.

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And then he stepped over from beside of me

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and he stepped on top of me, right?

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And I had buddies watching the live feed

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and they started texting my wife,

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like something just happened to Brian.

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I got so undone when it happened,

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like I couldn't stop weeping.

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And I had a handkerchief,

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because I'm a big boy and my spiritual gift is sweating.

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And I took this handkerchief and I just put it over my face

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because I didn't really want people to see

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how undone it was.

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And as I was walking through the altar then,

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man, everybody started melting when I got close to him.

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Just power God permeates the room.

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So I think that kicked it off.

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There were some, almost like,

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if we're talking about Rabbi Cammel,

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call them harbingers, that revival was coming, right?

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Couple of months before,

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like there's been some real hunger that's hit us

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and some real, also brokenness, just to be honest.

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We fought hell nationally for several years.

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It's why I'm 46, I look like I'm going on 70,

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through the lockdowns and became a voice

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against government oppression of the church.

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But I walked in the church a couple of months ago

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and the secretaries came and got me and said,

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pastor, there's somebody out front.

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We don't know if he's dangerous or not.

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Kind of looks crazy.

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And he did, he had all the signs up.

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He was strung out and he was laid down

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on the front of the church house, like by the door,

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just face down.

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And I went out there, I had a friend in town,

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Pastor Joel DeAngie, helps me pastor now,

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so come on staff.

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And I was like, Joel, watch,

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I don't know what this guy's gonna do

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because I've had a lot of death threats throughout the years.

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And this guy's down there all strung out.

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And I'm like, hey, I walk out, hey man, can I help you?

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And he looked up at me and he said, he's weeping.

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He said, my mama brought me to this building

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when I was a little boy.

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And I was across town, he was about 15 miles away.

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I was across town and I felt like

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if I could get to this building, I could find God.

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This is what the kid says.

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Wow.

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And he's hanging on the threshold of the church.

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Right.

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So we prayed for him minister to invest we could,

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you know what I mean?

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Believe God for him and took him where he needed to go.

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And I hadn't seen him since, I'm believing God,

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God started something in him.

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But I think it was kinda like, God's like,

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hey, I'm gonna bring the broken and the lost

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and the hurting.

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It was like a prophetic, prophetic sign to me, if you will.

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But it started in Amarillo then it went to Owensboro.

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And we did seven days.

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Owensboro is our Kentucky location.

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Almost I left Amarillo in the middle

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of a Sunday morning service,

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cause you know, American Airlines owns you

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out in West Texas, the only way you're getting out

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unless you wanna take a horse across the desert out here.

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But we're flying out and man, people,

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the power got so strong in the room.

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I have to leave right then.

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And we get to Owensboro and the same stuff

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starts happening there.

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Same stuff starts happening.

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So it's rolling.

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God's doing something.

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Wow.

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So what were some of the things that were being preached

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that were, what were some themes

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that might have been able to spark this revival?

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Then the strongest theme I know,

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I'll say this, Pastor Daniel Bracken started preaching

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about just believing God for bigger.

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And he does have a real, he's like a,

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he's a wrecking ball, just to be honest, and a faith man.

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And he's just fought hell to build up.

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It's like a 75,000 square foot building in Wasilla, Alaska.

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His church is King's Chapel, but it was like,

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he fought hell at a higher level.

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Alaska, you only have so many months to build, right?

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And if you can't get it built then,

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you gotta wait till everything falls out.

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I mean, it's a real deal.

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And so it's been seven years him fighting the hell.

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And I think he's got an uncommon faith.

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And I think he was releasing that to the people to believe,

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but that was massive.

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I'll say this, like Jesus,

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people were preaching spirit baptism, right?

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People were preaching somewhat about the controversy

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between the Jews and Palestine right now.

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Okay.

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Tied it back into Haman,

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wanting to kill the Jews in the book of Esther,

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and how there's a demonic warfare around.

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But I'll say this, we had some great speakers in Owensboro.

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We had Rabbi Khan, and we had Greg Locke.

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Greg Locke's flying in tonight

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to preach in Amarillo as well.

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Oh, wow.

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And Khan preached the return of the gods,

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which is where we are as a culture right now.

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Where it's about the old God Testament false gods

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are really just demon powers, right?

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Molech and the Asteroth and Baal.

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And you see what they're doing in the culture right now

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with the lies coming to our children

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about all the LGBTQ stuff.

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Also the blood, I mean, I call it blood sacrifice,

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the abortion all over the world.

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It's what it is, right?

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Khan does a great job teaching that.

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So I think that was touching hearts.

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And I'll say this, one night,

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I didn't have a big guest speaker,

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and we got things going forward.

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And I'm trying to pray,

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who do I get over here to help me run this revival?

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And Jesus spoke to me and he said,

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can I be your special guest tonight?

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And I'm like, yeah, Lord,

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I would love to host you more than anybody else.

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And so the big names showed up and they're awesome.

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I love those guys, men of God, right?

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But when people just came for nobody but Jesus,

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it's pretty special, you know?

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It's pretty special.

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I don't say that to God.

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The rabbi is a dear friend and great teacher.

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I mean, I learned so much from him after the service,

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blowing my mind.

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It's just like, he knows more.

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He's forgotten more than I've ever learned.

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And then Locke's got an authority over the devil right now

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that's hit another level.

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And we go back.

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I mean, he and I go back for some time now.

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And-

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I want you to share a little bit of that story

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of how you and Pastor Greg Locke

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have been doing some ministry together over the years.

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But we'll save that for a little bit later.

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But continue to tell me about what God's doing now.

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Yeah, yeah, Jesus,

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he just said, can I be your special guest?

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And so I'm trying to keep it Jesus-focused

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and Jesus-centered the revival, right?

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And I'm trying to make sure we don't get in the way of it.

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So like even other friends I've got that move so powerfully

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like in the word of knowledge and stuff like that,

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I got friends that can come in

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and I travel with them pretty extensively.

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Doesn't matter where we go.

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Like some of these guys know,

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they know everybody's name and what they're dealing with

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and their job.

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And I'm talking crazy, crazy gifts of the Spirit.

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I love to see that operate.

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But people can get like so wowed by that

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that they forget what we came for.

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We didn't come for the gift.

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We came for the one that gives the gift, right?

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And I want us to stay focused on that.

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But in the middle of it, like in Owensboro,

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I'll say this Owensboro, Kentucky,

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I've never seen the level of demon possession

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or oppression or whatever you want to call it.

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I don't care what you call it.

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Just let's say people that the devil is tormenting.

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Like they're in the service.

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And this is before Locke gets there, who's a big demon guy.

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Just like we're walking in the church building

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and people that are oppressed of the devil

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are running to us around the building.

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Me and one of my friends, Pastor Shane Warren,

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pray for me, pray.

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I got these issues and you can tell when it's demonic,

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it's different, right?

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Just total spirit of fear and freaked out.

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And then we get in the service.

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And like I'll give you an example.

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One night I called people up.

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People have been getting healed,

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like 20 people getting testified in the church.

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They just received healing.

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Our teams praying for them and God's moving.

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And then I call people up for salvation

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before Khan ever speaks.

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And I got words of knowledge on several of these people

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that are up there.

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And I get to one and full-fledged manifests of devil,

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start screaming out, falls on the ground,

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almost right in front of Khan's on the,

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sitting on the front row.

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And we minister to him and there's kids getting saved

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in this altar call too.

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And they're looking, you know,

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not everybody's seen a devil just cried out and screaming.

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And I'm like, don't pay attention to that, honey.

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That's just a devil.

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We're gonna focus on Jesus.

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Pastor comes out, I mean,

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I'm trying to pass for these teenagers.

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They get freaked out.

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But I'm like, that was happening four or five times a night.

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I don't know.

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Like I pastored in Owensboro,

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pioneered a church there in 0405.

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And I don't know what's,

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it's always been a witchy kind of city,

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to be honest, for Kentucky.

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It's an old river town.

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And a lot of times I think those type of,

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I don't know, you know, occultic stuff or witch stuff,

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palm readers, all that kind of stuff

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that comes and demonizes a city,

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went down the river ways early on.

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And you can find it in old river towns.

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Used to, I rented an office from people

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that owned the first New Age store in that town.

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But it's gone to another level now.

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And I don't know, I think it's that coupled with the drugs

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and the fentanyl coming up from our southern border.

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I think there's a lot of occult practices

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in the cartel thing, right?

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You know, they got their patron saint of drug running,

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they pray to.

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Then they employ a lot of witches

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to pray over the dope and stuff.

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And I mean, you don't go to any major city in America

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right now without seeing fentanyl junkies

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and meth heads on every corner.

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But in a little town of 50,000,

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it really sticks out, right?

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Cause it's a small place.

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And the town is getting like that.

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So when we start preaching the gospel over there,

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man, the demons just crowd of people

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and they've gotten demonized.

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Jesus is setting them free.

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But it's even just going down to the like walking in town

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by myself, demon possessed people are finding me everywhere

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during the day.

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So I mean, my wife is like,

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this is getting out of control, Brian.

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Like I'm walking and demon possessed people

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are screaming at me from the top of parking garages

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and stuff and coming up and trying to talk to me.

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We're ministering Jesus to them.

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Cause when you're talking to people like that,

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there's two entities you're talking to.

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There's the human in there, right?

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That is drawn to you and drawn to the Jesus in you

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really cause they need deliverance.

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And then there's the demon that is possessed

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and vexed them.

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And a lot of Christians aren't used to that,

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but it's all over the New Testament.

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They'll try on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

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They'd learn something about the Jesus who breaks chains.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I know that, you just mentioned that pastor Greg Locke,

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God's using him mightily in deliverance right now.

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But when you guys first started working together

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and ministering together,

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he, brother, you were a big part of him,

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coming to the knowledge of the Holy Spirit

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and leaving his cessationist ways behind.

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Could you tell me, could you tell us a little bit about

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early Greg Locke and what you see now

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and the transformation that's been happening?

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Yeah, I used to see Locke,

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he blew up on Facebook years ago.

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And I'm a bit outspoken too

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and people would send me videos of him.

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And at the time I'm like, whatever, you know.

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But Locke and I got,

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we started pushing back against the lockdowns

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and he got loud and I was loud.

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And yeah, I think back then I was on some of Charisma

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podcast back then with the strength, right?

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So I did some over that and Locke's around,

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around voices back then like Pastor Rodney Howard Brown

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was a voice at the time.

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There were different guys.

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What's his name out in California?

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Jack Hibbs became a voice, Rob McCoy became a voice in that.

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The guy down in Louisiana, they kept arresting,

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I forget his name, but he became a voice during the time.

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That brother held the line.

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I gotta say about him, he held the line.

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I don't know him, but I'll tip my hat to him.

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But we were doing a rally in Kentucky,

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in Frankfort at the Capitol.

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And I called Locke and said, Locke, why don't you come over?

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You know, I know you're with us aligned on this politically.

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And like, there's Mike Pence's fly again,

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aligned with us politically.

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Cause we don't think the government should,

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we don't think politicians tell prophets what to do.

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I think prophets tell politicians what to do.

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And I don't care what, whatever they're selling,

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I'm not smoking.

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I got a first amendment right to keep the church open.

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I don't care what's happening.

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And so Locke goes on the road with me

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and we preach in like 30 states together.

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And I didn't know he's a full fledged cessationist

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and that he hated Charismatics back then.

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I didn't know he'd written books about guys like me,

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but I'm driving down the road

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and he and I rented a car together, we're riding together.

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And a guy calls me, a friend of mine, Pastor Shane Warren.

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And he's like, hey, Gibson,

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are you ministering with Locke right now?

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I'm like, yeah, he's like, he hates guys like you.

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So he says on the phone and I'm like, I'm riding by him.

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I'm like, well, we're getting along pretty good right now.

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Things are going.

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I didn't even know how bad I was freaking Locke out

517
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560
because we're like driving in the car forever

518
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,920
and flying on planes together.

519
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,440
But I pray in tongues a lot.

520
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,360
And instead of cussing when somebody pulls over on me

521
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,640
in an interstate, I think it's better.

522
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,800
My flesh wants to cuss.

523
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960
I think it's better to talk in tongues.

524
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,880
And my wife's a lot happier with me

525
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,680
when I talk in tongues instead of cussing.

526
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,520
So it's a habit.

527
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,200
I just pray in tongues and I remember Locke looking over

528
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840
at me like what in the world's happening?

529
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,160
But he would watch us and I would give words

530
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,440
and knowledge and prophesy as we were traveling.

531
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,560
And he kind of figured out, he's like,

532
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,000
man, this guy's not crazy,

533
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,520
at least not totally crazy, right?

534
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,000
And God was already speaking to him.

535
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800
He's looking in the Bible.

536
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,520
And so Locke saw that what we were doing, that it's real.

537
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,560
And the spirit of God was working on him.

538
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760
I think there was kind of culmination of that.

539
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,880
And Locke tells this story,

540
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,520
I think it's in one of his books.

541
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,480
He comes over to my church house in Owensboro,

542
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,120
the church we pastor.

543
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,480
I always call it the church house

544
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,720
because it's not the church, right?

545
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,440
It's where the church meets.

546
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,280
So-

547
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,100
I like how you'd make that distinction.

548
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:57,940
That's good.

549
00:21:57,940 --> 00:21:58,780
Yeah, yeah.

550
00:21:58,780 --> 00:21:59,620
I try to help people theologically like that.

551
00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:00,920
It's the church house.

552
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,960
And I had a friend of mine from Columbia.

553
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600
He's a prophet, Gustavo Piaz.

554
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800
Piaz is like the highest level male reader

555
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,360
I've ever seen in my life, right?

556
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:14,000
It's like, holy moly, this is insane.

557
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,160
So he tells Locke almost everything

558
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,060
he's ever done in his life,

559
00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:19,880
prophesies over all of his children,

560
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,560
Locke's childhood, all this stuff, and Locke's just undone.

561
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800
And I think that changed everything

562
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,360
in their life and ministry.

563
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,600
So he wrote a book about it.

564
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,280
I think y'all carry the book.

565
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,960
It's maybe accessing or anointing,

566
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,800
or it's something about the anointing.

567
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,440
I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

568
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240
But all of our books got these anointing titles.

569
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,400
So it's some book with anointing in the title.

570
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280
So in the book, he tells the story

571
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,200
of how God touched him that way.

572
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480
And then he comes to our church

573
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,200
and he's preaching about that.

574
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,760
And demons start screaming out in the room, all right?

575
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440
So there's like five or six of them that night,

576
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,740
which was uncommon at the time.

577
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,720
It seems more common right now.

578
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,240
I think our culture with all the crazy stuff

579
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,120
that's been loosed in our culture,

580
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,480
with the sexual, you know, just green light.

581
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720
You can be a trisexual, try whatever you want.

582
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,560
You know, and us applauding, not us,

583
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,720
but people applauding it in our school systems.

584
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720
It's getting more demonized.

585
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,120
But that night people were screaming out and stuff,

586
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,720
and Locke didn't know what to do with them at the time.

587
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000
And there's a woman like manifesting on the front row.

588
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680
You know, she's dancing, she's doing all kinds of weird,

589
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,880
devils come to distract.

590
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,180
So it's kind of sensual what she's doing

591
00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:35,440
and she's manifesting.

592
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,360
And I walked down right in front of Locke and the woman,

593
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,600
and I'm like, come out of her in Jesus name.

594
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,200
And she goes down and starts to ride them

595
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,120
and the devil starts coming out of her.

596
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,680
And afterwards I'm like, hey, Locke,

597
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,360
do you see all those demons screaming in the service

598
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,000
when you started preaching?

599
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,400
I'm like, I'm pretty sure God's doing something here

600
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800
and he wants to use you to set the demon disaster free.

601
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,520
And it was a prophetic moment in Locke's life.

602
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,380
I think he talks about it in one of the recent books.

603
00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:05,900
And then there were other things coupled with that.

604
00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:08,100
And then he dove in, he went all the way in, right?

605
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,720
He started studying all the, everybody

606
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,060
and all these other guys, this is what they do.

607
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:18,060
I'm a pastor, I'm not just a specialist in deliverance

608
00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:21,740
or specialist in the prophetic or you know what I mean?

609
00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:25,180
I'm a general practitioner, I'm a pastor, church planner.

610
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:27,660
But he got in deep and God's used him.

611
00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:31,020
I mean, the books come out, the movie, millions of watch.

612
00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:32,860
And the guys he had on there,

613
00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:38,420
when you first get into a movement like that

614
00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:39,980
and you don't know everybody,

615
00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:42,340
some of the voices you get connected with are good voices,

616
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:43,600
some are bad voices.

617
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:45,980
He invited me to preach

618
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:48,500
at that first deliverance conference he had

619
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:51,820
and I didn't want to go because I didn't know all the guys

620
00:24:51,820 --> 00:24:54,700
and I'm real careful who I link arms with, right?

621
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,900
Maybe I'm a little looser than I used to be now

622
00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:01,700
because, but anyway, Locke's learned some lessons

623
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,780
in that area, God teaches us all lessons.

624
00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:07,980
And a lot of people will judge you

625
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,360
on something you did a couple of years ago

626
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,700
when you're a different man now.

627
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,260
And Locke's a different man

628
00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:16,300
and God's changing him every day.

629
00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:20,820
I love him, I'm committed to him as a man and a man of God.

630
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:24,740
And I'm thankful that we got to be a little part

631
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,300
of the story that what God's doing in him.

632
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,260
Amen, amen, that's exciting.

633
00:25:29,260 --> 00:25:30,260
Thank you for sharing that.

634
00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:33,180
And I want to, we're kind of coming down,

635
00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:35,740
coming towards the end of this interview right now,

636
00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:37,220
which I think this is going to be the first

637
00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:40,060
of many interviews because I just enjoy talking with you

638
00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,380
and hearing what God's doing.

639
00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:45,280
But I want to hear, you've been able to sustain this revival

640
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,580
in these two different areas

641
00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:48,420
or actually a couple of different areas

642
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,140
for a little while now.

643
00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:53,600
What is it, I mean, we talked about what sparked it,

644
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,260
but what are you believing is going to sustain this revival?

645
00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:01,620
Well, number one, I have no idea what I'm doing, all right?

646
00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,320
Just put that out there, right?

647
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,940
I've never tried, I just don't know what I'm doing.

648
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,180
But God's doing something.

649
00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:09,820
I mean, I'm not an idiot, not a total idiot,

650
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:12,380
but I don't know what I'm doing right now.

651
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,220
I think I've been talking to guys

652
00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:18,320
that have had these kinds of revivals that keep going.

653
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,860
Because we've been successful planning churches

654
00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:22,240
and we've always moved into gifts,

655
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,020
but never an extended revival.

656
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:26,840
First one, I'm 20 years into this.

657
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:32,300
So I know this, passion for Jesus is paramount.

658
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,100
So I'm trying to keep him centered.

659
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,460
Now keep reminding the crowd,

660
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:38,380
hey, tonight we have a special guest, right?

661
00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:41,300
Tonight we have a special guest.

662
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,300
And his name is Jesus.

663
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:45,140
There's no other guest,

664
00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:47,260
there's nobody else I want to host.

665
00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:49,820
I know, I'm going to eat with one of the pastors

666
00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:53,740
of the largest church in the world, like on what is tonight,

667
00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,700
on the 31st.

668
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,380
I sat with all those guys, knew all those guys,

669
00:26:57,380 --> 00:27:00,340
knew Dr. Joe before he went to heaven.

670
00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:01,700
The old generals, I know all those guys.

671
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,180
I loved them all, appreciate them.

672
00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:06,460
But there's nobody like Jesus.

673
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:11,180
So CEOs, I know them, presidents, families, I know them.

674
00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:12,740
I want to know Jesus.

675
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:15,500
So I keep that, I'm trying to keep that first and foremost,

676
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,240
number one, try not to touch it,

677
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,060
get in the way, not mess it up.

678
00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:22,740
Secondly, I think we got to pray more, right?

679
00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:25,420
I mean, this is just Christianity 101.

680
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,900
Attacks come, right?

681
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,860
I got some real lessons during the lockdowns.

682
00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,980
I got involved politically about keeping the church open

683
00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:37,720
and it wasn't just a local church fight.

684
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,380
It was like a national governance fight.

685
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,780
And people say new level, new devil.

686
00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:47,780
I learned that at a higher level than I've ever experienced.

687
00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:48,620
Right?

688
00:27:48,620 --> 00:27:50,940
So I want to get people praying for us.

689
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:55,500
Like even last night, like I was, I'm moving slow

690
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:56,940
because middle of the night, I get a call

691
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:59,580
and the devil attacked my brother's health last night.

692
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,540
My brother went down in front of his wife,

693
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,740
got up straight up out of bed, threw up,

694
00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:08,340
said, call the ambulance, something's bad wrong with me.

695
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:09,540
He's not that kind of guy.

696
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,460
So we were all up praying in the spirit, he's in Kentucky.

697
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:15,460
I'm in Texas and we're up binding and loosening last night

698
00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,220
at like two in the morning.

699
00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:21,340
And the devil, you know, you just get uncommon attacks

700
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:22,900
when stuff like this is happening.

701
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,620
Don't fear it, right?

702
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:25,580
We don't have a spirit of fear.

703
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:27,300
We have authority over the devil,

704
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,620
but raising up that shield of faith with prayer.

705
00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:33,340
We need people praying for us, praying for our team,

706
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:35,780
praying for safety, praying for protection.

707
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:37,580
I think prayer's big there.

708
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:41,100
I think gospel preaching, simple gospel.

709
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,860
The ultimate form of spiritual warfare

710
00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:46,900
is the verbal proclamation of the gospel, the kerygma.

711
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:47,740
Right?

712
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:49,500
The coming Messiah, death, burial, resurrection,

713
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,420
repent, believe, come on, he's coming back.

714
00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:55,180
I think preaching that feeds any revival.

715
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:59,220
And I think just learning to steward it well.

716
00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:00,980
I think what we're going to is we'll probably do

717
00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:04,580
three days a week in both locations, right?

718
00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:06,940
I like do a week over here, three days,

719
00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:08,580
then take it over here.

720
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,620
And right now it feels like wherever we go,

721
00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:14,020
revival's going with us, which is crazy.

722
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:17,420
Like one of my campus pastors, Pastor Jordan Chrysley

723
00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:20,020
in Owensboro went to a funeral this week

724
00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:21,380
in the middle of this revival.

725
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:24,340
A guy, I don't know, I forgot what killed him, young guy.

726
00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:27,180
Small group, like, I don't know, 75 people in the room,

727
00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:30,100
20 people got saved in the funeral, right?

728
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,980
My wife went to the salon, right?

729
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:35,500
Because her anointing is like when she gets her hair done

730
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,260
and her nails done and all that stuff.

731
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:39,900
So she's in the salon, and my wife's a better preacher

732
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:41,860
than I am, she's a fireball.

733
00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:45,660
But they are asking, we do a lot of trips to Israel,

734
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:48,020
and they're asking, hey, what's happening in Israel?

735
00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:49,660
Is this the end, the girls?

736
00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:50,580
Is Jesus coming back?

737
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,540
And she, is Jesus coming back?

738
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:54,060
And three or four of the hairdressers,

739
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:55,900
she has an altar call in the salon,

740
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,500
they get born again in the salon, right?

741
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,180
This Sunday in our Henderson campus,

742
00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:03,060
we baptized over 60 people this Sunday

743
00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:05,700
from the revival in our campus.

744
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,540
So Henderson, we just pioneered that church,

745
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:09,940
I don't know, three years ago,

746
00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:11,780
and it's hitting about 300 people on the Sunday

747
00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:12,780
in the morning right now.

748
00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:14,900
And it'd be bigger, but the church is too small,

749
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,900
we need a miracle.

750
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,740
So they're baptizing 10 people over there,

751
00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:22,460
and 11 more people that are just in the room that get saved

752
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:24,020
decide they need to get water baptized,

753
00:30:24,020 --> 00:30:28,140
run up and get baptized in their good clothes,

754
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,820
walk home wet.

755
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:33,220
Pastor John Tatum was doing that in Henderson.

756
00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:35,620
We just want to, we need an awakening,

757
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:37,980
we need no revival, we need, we revival,

758
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:39,780
and I believe this, I believe revival isn't coming,

759
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,140
I believe it's here.

760
00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:42,740
It will operate in it,

761
00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:45,820
and we'll walk humbly before the Lord.

762
00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:49,180
And I think God, you know, in a lot of ways,

763
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:52,020
He allowed us to be broken over the last few years,

764
00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:54,340
so He could pour out a blessing,

765
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:56,780
and we just want to do it well.

766
00:30:56,780 --> 00:30:57,620
Amen.

767
00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:59,740
You know, Pastor Brian, as you're talking about this

768
00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:00,900
and you're sharing those stories,

769
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:04,460
I'm reminded of the passage in Acts where the,

770
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:05,860
I forget what town it was,

771
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:08,180
but they said the people that have turned the world

772
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,540
upside down have come here as well.

773
00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:13,580
And so the revival, we're going with them,

774
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and what you're seeing,

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and as you said it so eloquently earlier,

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is that no matter where we're going,

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the revival is gonna break out.

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And there's faith in that declaration,

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and there's faith in that,

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because we know that revival's not isolated

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to a physical location.

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Revival can go with you,

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00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:33,580
because it's the Holy Spirit moving,

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it's drawing people to Jesus.

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00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:37,380
We know that nobody comes to Jesus

786
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unless the Holy Spirit draws them.

787
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And Jesus is our special guest.

788
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And Pastor Brian, we talked about prayer,

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and I want to ask you to pray for those that are watching,

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that they would really treat Jesus as a special guest.

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00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:53,220
And however it is that you want to pray,

792
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I just want to kind of release you for that.

793
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,180
And I just believe that there can be revival

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00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:01,180
breaking out from people watching this interview,

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that this video right now,

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and as they share that with their friends and family,

797
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that they can be a part of this revival.

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Would you just pray for them right now?

799
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Amen, I love that, John.

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I love what you said about these men

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that have turned the world upside down

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from the book of Acts.

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I believe that.

804
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I want to pray along those lines.

805
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And I can feel the power,

806
00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:23,420
the physical power of God on me right now for revival,

807
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and that's Jesus.

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So Lord, we come boldly to your throne right now

809
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,540
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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We thank you that he's the healer.

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We thank you that he's the chain breaker.

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00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,940
We thank you that he's the one that sends revival.

813
00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:40,540
He is the one that baptizes in Holy Spirit fire.

814
00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,660
Right now, Father, we pray that we would be like the book

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of Acts, men and women, that everywhere we go,

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that your name would be lifted up

817
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,140
and that you would be the special guest.

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00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,060
So Father, I pray now you would come and bless John

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and his household.

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00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,420
You would bless the organization

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00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:56,140
that he represents, Charisma.

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00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:59,460
I pray right now as well that you would continue your work

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in the churches we lead

824
00:33:01,060 --> 00:33:04,380
and that it would roll over to other churches.

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00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:07,980
I declare my cup runneth over from Psalm 23

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and let it go all over the state of Texas.

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Let it go all over Kentucky, Tennessee,

828
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:14,820
all over the Southeast, into California,

829
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into Seattle, Washington.

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Father, I declare revival fire is coming

831
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and flowing and moving.

832
00:33:21,580 --> 00:33:23,260
Right now, I thank you that in this revival,

833
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you're tapping on the shoulders

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00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:26,980
and the heads of young men and women.

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00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:29,540
Father, I pray you raise up prophets and pastors

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00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:32,740
and teachers and apostles and that you raise up kings

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00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:35,380
that are business leaders and they're in the marketplace

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00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:36,300
making a difference.

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00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:37,820
Raise up priests, Father,

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00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:40,060
those that take care of the house of God.

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00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,700
Lord, I thank you that revival's coming

842
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,900
and the dead things are living again.

843
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,220
I say the fire of God and the breath of God are blowing

844
00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,340
over dead things, Father.

845
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,340
Dead bones and dry bones are raising up even now.

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00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:56,260
I know that there's a rise of the beast system

847
00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:57,420
all over the world,

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but I thank you that there's a rise of the bride

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00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:02,140
that's even stronger right now.

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00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,420
I thank you that the bride is more powerful than the beast.

851
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:09,140
I declare the bride is more powerful than the beast.

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00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:12,740
I said the bride is more powerful than the beast.

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00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:16,660
So empower your bride, give them passion for Jesus,

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00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:18,180
touch them and change them.

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00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:21,620
Lord, signs, wonders, miracles, salvations,

856
00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:24,420
let them flow, let that anointing hit every leader,

857
00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:25,540
every church person,

858
00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:28,820
every just Jesus-honoring person watching.

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00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:30,620
We say there's a new authority.

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00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,140
Say revival's not coming.

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00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:35,940
Revival is here, in Jesus' name.

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00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:37,900
Amen.

863
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:38,900
Amen.

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00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:41,620
Pastor Brian Gibson of His Church,

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thank you so much for being here on Charisma News

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00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:47,620
to talk about what God is doing.

867
00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,580
This is powerful and I love hearing what God's doing

868
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:52,780
and I can't wait to hear more from you

869
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:54,900
about how God is moving in this.

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00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:55,740
Thank you.

871
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:56,700
Hey, it's an honor, John.

872
00:34:56,700 --> 00:35:01,700
You're just out of trouble, huh?