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This year in 25, you're gonna see not just numerical growth,
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but spiritual growth.
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We're gonna see leaders rise up that we never imagined
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were going to be the anointed leaders that they really are.
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Get off Facebook and put your face in the book.
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It is time to spend massive amounts of time
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in the presence of God and with your family.
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The danger is millions of Christians
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are gonna go back to sleep and they can't.
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We cannot go back to sleep this time.
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We have gotta stay awake.
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We have gotta stay vigilant.
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We've gotta stay in the fight.
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I'm not interested in building up the White House.
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I'm interested in building up God's house.
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Pastor Greg Locke, it's great to have you here
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back on Charisma.
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It's been a while because we've had so many things going on,
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but you've been traveling a lot
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in and out of different countries.
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You moved from the tent into a permanent building.
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Praise the Lord for that.
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So now you've got heating and air conditioning
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for what God wants to do there.
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And I guess somebody else could be blessed with that tent
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or I don't know, maybe we can talk about that in a second.
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But we do wanna talk about what God is saying to you
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about the year 2025 and what we can be looking forward to.
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Pastor, give us what it is that God is saying
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for this next year and how we can prepare,
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but what we need to do about this as well.
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So welcome.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And thank you, Brother John, for having me.
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We love Charisma and we love the Charisma family
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and the whole audience.
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And so we appreciate everybody tuning in.
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You know, it's interesting that we're in a real,
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we're in a real rest space right now in our church.
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And I feel like that's what the Lord's doing
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in this season with a lot of people.
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You know, we've been building and battling
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and building and battling, and it's been a lot in the tent.
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And I think the thing that our people are most excited about
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are no portagons.
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And we actually have bathrooms now.
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And so people like come and use the bathroom
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when they don't even have to use the bathroom.
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But what it showed me the last month gearing up,
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you know, coming out of 24 into 25,
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is I think God gave us a month to kind of catch our breath
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because going into 25, I believe it is going to be
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a great building season,
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but I think it's gonna be building more with rest,
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if that makes sense, more than in the battles.
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Man, we have been in the trenches.
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I mean, not only did the, you know,
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the church and the house get shot up,
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I feel like our people have been shot up.
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I feel like the body of Christ has been shot up.
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Man, we've seen so much exposure this past year.
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Churches have suffered, you know, financial instability,
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you know, economically, things have been horrid.
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You know, then we had that nail biting election night,
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all of that.
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And so I feel like people are wore out.
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I feel like people are just utterly tired.
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They don't wanna quit, they don't wanna give up.
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And so I feel like for global vision
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and for the body of Christ as a whole,
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that we're moving into a season where our seed
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is crying out of the ground, right?
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I mean, what we've been putting in,
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we've been sowing, we've been giving,
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we've been crying and fasting and praying
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and just really pressing in.
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And I think God's saying, you know, now this year in 25,
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you're gonna see not just numerical growth,
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but spiritual growth, real deepening of a maturity
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in the body of Christ.
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And so I think there's gonna be a lot of building.
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I think it's gonna be a building season, a prophetic season.
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I think it's gonna be an apostolic season.
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We're gonna see leaders rise up that we never imagined
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we're going to be the anointed leaders that they really are.
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I think God's gonna call fresh new eyes and vision
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into the ministry.
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And I think even ministries, not just churches,
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but ministries like Charisma,
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they're gonna see a bump in readership
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and in people, you know, stepping to the forefront,
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wanting to be authors,
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wanting to step out into their calling and the equipping
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and the anointing that the Lord has given us.
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So I think 25 is gonna be a year of rest.
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It's not that we're not gonna be fighting and battling
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and, you know, fighting principalities and powers
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and spiritual wickedness in high places,
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but I feel like the building that we're going to be doing
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is really gonna be the benefits and the blessing
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of the battles and the war that we've just come through,
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because it has been, it's been hard.
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It's been very difficult.
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I have seen more pastors step away from ministry,
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have to take, you know, sabbaticals,
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some just completely out of the ministry altogether.
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You know, marriages are hurting.
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You know, there's more prodigals out there
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than we've probably ever seen before.
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Church giving is down across the board.
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It just seems like pastors are discouraged.
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I get calls like every single day
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of people that are just absolutely defeated.
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And so I think the Lord's gonna raise us up
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and put us in a season of rest
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and just kind of rebuild some things.
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And I don't think he's gonna build it
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the way that he used to build it
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or the way that he used to do it.
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You know, I think the days of just pressing
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for church growth and more people in the seats,
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I think that's done.
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I think we wanna get the right people in the seats.
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And I think God's gonna rebuild
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and structures are gonna change
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and vision is gonna change.
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And I know that's a long way around the barn,
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but I just feel like people need to go in 25
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into a season of knowing that God's not gonna stop.
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He's gonna accelerate his work.
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But I think he's gonna let us get a little more sleep
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and a little more rest and a little more relaxation.
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And I tell our folks,
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sometimes the most spiritual thing you can do
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is take a nap.
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You know, sometimes as a preacher,
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if you take a nap or if you sleep in
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and you feel guilty about it,
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then the problem is the church has become your idol.
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The ministry has become your idol.
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And I think sometimes we're gonna have to be still.
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We're gonna have to step back and just let God
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do what he wants to do.
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So we fought the battles
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and here we are now on the forefront.
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And I think God's gonna start raising some things up
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and saying, I'm gonna let the vision come to pass,
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but I'm gonna let you have a little bit of peace
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while it's transpired.
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Does that make sense?
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That makes perfect sense, brother.
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And I wanna actually,
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I had a mental picture as you were talking about that.
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I wanna submit this to you to see if this kind of connects
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with what you're feeling the Lord saying.
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It's kind of like whenever you are building a house
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and you are pouring the foundation,
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that concrete needs to rest.
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You've poured the foundation,
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the concrete needs to rest before you can build on it.
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Otherwise you're dealing with a soupy mess
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and it's not gonna settle right.
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And a foundation that is not properly cured or rested
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is going to get cracks.
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It's going to have issues.
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And if you try to build on it,
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you're gonna have to go back and restore that
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or repair that foundation again.
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Is that kind of a good description
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of what you were talking about too?
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I think so, I think we've spent a lot of time
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building superstructures without foundations.
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And like you said, I think sometimes
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we didn't let the foundation cure real well.
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Oh, we got a foundation and boom, just start building it.
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And God said, no, I'm gonna slow things down.
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I'm gonna tear a few things down
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so that we can rebuild correctly, right?
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It's not that we built in sinfulness or rebellion.
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I think sometimes the body of Christ just builds too quick.
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People all the time, don't get behind, don't get behind.
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Don't make God have to pull you along.
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And I'll be honest, that's never my temptation.
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The devil knows that I'm not somebody
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that's gonna drag my feet.
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So the biggest temptation that the devil gives me
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is not to drag behind, but to get ahead of God,
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to get out front, to push me too fast.
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And so I think sometimes, I know in my own life
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and at Global Vision as a leader there,
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I think sometimes I've pushed maybe a little too quick.
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And I think in 25, God's gonna pull some things back,
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deconstruct some things, let the foundation cure,
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as you said, right?
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And build the superstructure in a different way.
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So Pastor Greg, how is it
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that people can actually practically rest?
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That is something, especially in American culture,
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we have such a difficult time with that.
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And especially, we're not saved from our good works,
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we're saved to do good works.
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And sometimes people look at that and say,
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well, I'm not saved unless I do those good works.
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And we exhaust ourselves
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because we become very good Christian doers
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as opposed to Christian beings.
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And so human beings, human doers as opposed to human beings.
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And so give us some practicality of that
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and how have you found rest in your life?
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And I think we have twisted it up.
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And we've made Christianity about do this, do this, do this,
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when really it's about, you need to be this.
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Because if you'll be right, you'll do right.
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It's just, you'll know them by their fruits.
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It's natural.
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You don't have to beg an apple tree to produce apples.
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It just automatically does
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because it's what's inside of it.
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And the reason people have bad fruit
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is because they have a bad root.
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And so we gotta get to the root of the issue.
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And I think the root of the issue with a lot of people
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is we do spiritually exhaust ourselves for no reason.
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And we don't do it because we're trying to please God,
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we're doing it because we're trying to please people.
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Because the fear of man brings a snare.
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We don't wanna look lazy.
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But I'm telling you, we've got to take vacation time.
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We gotta take Sabbath time, if you will.
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We've gotta rest.
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There's gotta be times when we just pull back and say,
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you know what, I'm gonna spend time with my family.
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I'm gonna spend time with the Lord.
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And I think the Christmas season, New Year's, all of that,
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people do that and we accentuate it.
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But I think it's something
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that we ought to do on a regular basis.
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Don't spend time with your kids once a year
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just because Santa Claus is coming to town.
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Don't spend time with your kids on a regular basis
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because they're dying for that, right?
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And we need to bring back family time.
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We need to bring back family altar time,
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family worship, family prayer time.
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I saw this video somebody sent me the other day
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and it was extraordinarily convicting.
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They had all these parents, all these adults in these rooms
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around these big tables, kinda like this.
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And they were interviewing them and they asked them,
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if you could have a meal with anybody on the planet,
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living or dead, who would it be?
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The moms and dads are like Tom Cruise
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and Justin Timberlake or whatever.
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They're talking about all these famous movie stars.
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Every one of them, hands down without fail,
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they were even arguing back and forth.
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All of them said that these famous people,
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either they'd like to resurrect and have a meal with
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or somebody that's alive today that they'd like to talk to.
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And so then they took all of them out of the room
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and put them behind a big glass
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and brought all of their kids in.
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And they asked their kids the same question.
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And all their kids were like,
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I'd like to have a meal with my parents.
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I'd like to have a meal with my siblings.
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I just wanna sit down and have dinner with my family.
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And I was like, holy smokes, that's a reality right there.
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What a gut check, what a heart check.
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And sometimes we just gotta slow down
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and have a meal with our family.
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As a pastor, I don't keep my phone on all night long anymore.
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I just don't, I'm not going to,
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because what's gonna happen is,
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I used to think to myself,
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if I don't answer the phone at two o'clock in the morning,
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then so-and-so is gonna get mad and leave the church.
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Well, guess what?
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I ended up answering my phone at two o'clock in the morning,
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didn't get any sleep.
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And three years later,
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they left the church over something else.
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What difference does it make?
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And so what we've done is we've made an idol
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out of our calling.
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And I think sometimes we can fall more in love
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with what God's called us to do
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than the God that actually called us to do it.
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And sometimes we just have to slow down.
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And this past year for me has been learning that,
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especially in this Bible reading marathon that I've been in,
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just going through the Word of God.
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I've had to slow down and recognize
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the world's not gonna fall apart
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and global vision's not gonna implode or explode
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just because Greg Locke's not there.
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The world doesn't revolve around me.
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The world revolves around the presence of the Holy Spirit.
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And we've gotta rest.
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We've gotta, men, you need to date your wife.
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I'm telling you, take your wife on a date.
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I don't care if you walk in a public park,
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feed ducks and eat baloney.
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I don't care if it's a five-star restaurant.
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It doesn't matter.
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You need to date your wife.
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It's so valuable.
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It's so important.
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And so now I'm dating my wife every week.
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I'm taking my kids out and going to the movies with them.
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We're going roller skating, whatever.
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And I'm not feeling guilty about it anymore.
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People need to relax.
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People need to rest.
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And I'm gonna say to any pastor that's watching this,
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quit running your family to death
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and making the church the golden idol
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and the golden calf of your house.
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Your wife needs you.
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Your kids need you.
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In my case, and in some of your cases,
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your grandkids need you.
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It's time to slow down.
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The church is not going to explode
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if you're not there for one Wednesday or one Sunday.
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And by the way, if it does, it probably needs to, right?
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Because I told our folks a while back,
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we have a one generational problem at our church.
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Meaning by that, we've created a church
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that has one generation in it.
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If I get clipped by a train on my mountain bike,
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God forbid, the church has like six weeks left in it.
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And I'm like, why are we not raising up
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next level leadership?
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That church should be able to go on without Greg Locke.
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If it's really a God's body, God's family,
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if it's really a church of the Lord Jesus Christ,
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then it shouldn't matter whether I'm there or not.
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I get it, apostles and pastors and prophets and all of that.
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And I know we have to be figureheads
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and we're held to a higher level of accountability.
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But I'm at a place now where I'm just like, you know what?
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I'm gonna back off and I'm gonna let God do his work.
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I'm not forcing myself or the Lord's work on anybody.
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And so again, there's so much in me right now
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coming out of 24 into 25.
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I just want people to know this is a season of rest,
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not a season of stopping, a season of being still.
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You can be still without being stopped.
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You can keep doing what you know
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the Holy Spirit wants you to do,
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but you don't have to run yourself to death.
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You've got one body, you've got one life, you've got one mind.
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It's time to get in the gym,
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not just because it's a New Year's resolution.
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I'm so tired of New Year's resolution.
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We need some New Year's repentance is what we need.
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We need to take care of our bodies.
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We need to eat right, we need to sleep well.
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We need to love our families.
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We need to get our nose out of the newspaper,
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stick it in the word of God.
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I tell people, get off Facebook
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and put your face in the book.
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It is time to spend massive amounts of time
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in the presence of God and with your family.
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And when you do that,
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God's gonna take care of his ministry
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because it's his work, it's his church, it's his body.
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And so all of that to say,
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sometimes we just need to stand back
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and let God do his work and quit pretending
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like we gotta be the hero of the hour.
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Amen, amen.
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We don't need to be the hero of the hour.
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We just gotta let God do his thing and trust in him.
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I mean, what the word says,
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trust in the Lord with all your heart
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and lean not on your own understanding
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in all your ways acknowledge him
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and he will make your path straight.
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But trusting in the Lord
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and leaning not in your own understanding.
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If you lean on your own understanding,
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you're gonna fall on that.
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It's like you're leaning on a cane
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and that's not a very good foundation there.
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Pastor Greg, what is it that you feel
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the Lord is saying to your church?
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What are you gonna be preaching at the turn of this year?
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What is the word that God's given you?
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Obviously rest is a big part of that,
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but where in the Bible are you gonna be preaching from
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about this message?
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Yeah, it's interesting.
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The other night in our Christmas Eve service,
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I almost preached the message
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that I'm going to actually be preaching this weekend.
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The Holy Spirit said, no,
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I want you to say a few other things
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and talk about some things.
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And then this weekend I'm gonna be preaching on
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how to have the greatest year ever.
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How to absolutely have the greatest year you've ever had.
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And I have these 10 principles, they all begin with F.
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But a lot of them have to do with,
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at least for the context of our church.
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I told our people,
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there's some things that we've had to leave
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in the gravel parking lot at old Leaven and Dirt Road.
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There's some stuff when the tent came down,
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it had to go with it.
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There's some stuff that can't transition.
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There's some people that didn't make the transition.
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They didn't make the leap.
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Doesn't make them bad people, that's fine.
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Good people, lead good churches.
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I tell them, if you're a good person
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that leaves a good church, just stay good.
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Just stay good.
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And so, not everybody made the leap and that's fine.
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I didn't need everybody to make the leap.
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There was a time I thought,
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oh, we gotta have this packed house
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and you're gonna have deliverance services all the time
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and you're gonna have thousands of people showing up.
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And the Lord said, you know what?
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I didn't need that with Gideon
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and I don't need that with you.
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I'm gonna pull some things back,
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I'm gonna scale some things back
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and I'm gonna sharpen your vision.
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I'm gonna give you a laser focus
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on what I've called you to do.
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And so this weekend, I'm gonna preach on the 10 ways
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you can have the best year that you've ever had.
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And for example, very practical things.
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Like point number one is,
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forgive the people that will never ask you to.
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We're good at forgiving people sometimes.
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I say good, we should be good
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at forgiving people that ask us.
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But sometimes you're gonna have to forgive people
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that will never ask you, right?
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People that did blow your face off,
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people that hurt you, people that harmed you,
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people that caused great deals of trauma
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and drama in your life.
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And there's just some very practical things
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that we're gonna have to do.
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There's some stuff we gotta leave behind.
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Paul said, forgetting those things which are behind.
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The body of Christ is horrible
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about carrying baggage with us everywhere that we go.
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And we pull it out and we show it off.
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It's like show and tell, oh, look what so and so did.
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Look what so and so said.
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And God says, would you get rid of that mess?
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Would you bury that thing?
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Would you not take that on the 12 mile journey
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from Mount Juliet to Lebanon, Tennessee?
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And so I told our folks, look,
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there's some things we just cannot bring here.
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Now, from a very practical standpoint,
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this past weekend, and I don't know if you or others
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have seen it, people watching our live stream now,
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it looks so good in the building.
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But this past weekend, I was letting our folks know
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one of the major goals I have this year,
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it's very audacious goal.
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It's a huge supernatural feat of amazement
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that happens and I believe it's going to.
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We wanna take 500 people from our church this year.
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And I wanna put 500 people on the mission field
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this year in 25.
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Now, I'm talking about short-terms mission.
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Now, some of them will end up going maybe
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for the rest of their life,
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but I wanna get 500 people in third world countries
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preaching and teaching and working with people.
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Because if we're a church that's called global vision,
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we have a local vision,
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but we better really have a global vision.
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And it's one thing for the pastor to jet set
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all over the world and preach.
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I wanna get our people on the mission field
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and not just Israel.
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And everybody knows my heart for Israel
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and our political work there and our spiritual work there,
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but I wanna get people on the mission field.
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And so one of the goals we have this year
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is to get 500 people out of their comfort zone
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in our congregation and plant their feet
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on a mission field somewhere around the world.
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And I believe that will radically change them,
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which in turn will radically change our church.
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I love that vision.
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I wholeheartedly stand with you for that
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because I was a missionary for eight years myself.
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A lot of short-term trips and training up people
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to take them with me.
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Those eight years in Youth of the Mission
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were foundational for my life.
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And so I know what a short-term mission trip
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can do for somebody
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where you're getting out of your comfort zone,
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you're doing something that you might never thought
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that you would do it,
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and you're making an impact in somebody's life
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around the world for the gospel.
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And in turn, you get affected as well.
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And I know that that's gonna cause great fruit
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at Global Vision.
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And I would encourage everybody that's watching,
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if you have the opportunity to go on a mission trip,
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either just do it or make an opportunity to go do that.
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Your life will be changed for sure.
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Pastor Greg, I wanna ask you this question.
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This is, you became more prominent several years ago
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because of your political stance.
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And obviously you were very pro-Trump at that point.
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And then God convicted you
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of basically making politics an idol.
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You got things lined up,
525
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and then deliverance became something you were known for.
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You're seeing great revival.
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But politically, we've now seen that shift
528
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that you were crying for years ago,
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and we've seen this now.
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Tell me about your impressions with the political scene
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in our country now,
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as opposed to when it was an idol for you.
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00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,680
And obviously you're happy with what has turned out.
534
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,680
Just give me an update on Greg Locke from 2020 to 2024.
535
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,400
It has been an interesting transition.
536
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,600
And I was very forceful politically, and I still am.
537
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I'm very controversial when it comes to courage
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and Trump and all of that.
539
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But I am excited for the direction
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I see us going.
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I wasn't there for a long time.
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Maybe that's why I was so strenuous
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in the way that I dealt with things,
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because I saw this demise coming,
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and I thought we have got to wake people up, right?
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And so I do believe that we're going
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into what I call a space of grace.
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I think economically things are going to be better.
549
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I think Americans are going to have more money
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in their pocket.
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I think things are going to look better
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on the religious scene, on the spiritual scene,
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because obviously the Biden administration
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and the Trump administration
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have two very different ideas administratively
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when it comes to the local church.
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When it comes to 501C3s and things like that.
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And so I'm excited for what can be.
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I'm excited for our new partnership with Israel.
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I think Mike Huckabee was the greatest pick
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that could have possibly been imagined
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for ambassador to Israel.
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And so there's a lot of things
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that I'm very excited about.
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The one thing I'm not excited about,
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the one thing that I think is a great danger
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is now that we, if I can say it like this,
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now that we got our way, the danger is millions
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of Christians are going to go back to sleep
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and they can't.
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We cannot go back to sleep this time.
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We have got to stay awake.
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We have got to stay vigilant.
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We've got to stay in the fight.
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Just because we got the guy in the White House
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that we're happy about, that we think is the right guy,
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we got to keep building, right?
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Just because we got our way,
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it's not about the White House, it's about God's house.
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Okay, we've got to build.
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We got to build just like in Ezra's day.
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The people were all excited politically,
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but God said, yeah, but my house is lying in ruins.
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My house is lying in waste.
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And so it's not that we have to make politics
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the main thing, okay?
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Soul winning, reaching people,
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loving souls with the gospel, the kingdom,
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that's the main thing.
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But politics is a big part of it.
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I mean, let's be honest, it's a grave part of it.
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And it's been a huge, huge condition as of late,
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whereas now we see God has done a beautiful thing.
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He's done a supernatural miracle.
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And the worst thing we could do is go back to sleep
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and just kind of just, well, you know,
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let's let it happen, what's going to happen?
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No, no, no, I think we need to jump into the forefront
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like never before, because if we want four good years,
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who's to say we can't have eight good years, 12 good years?
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I mean, I really believe that God showed us His mercy
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in a marvelous way.
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So here's what I told our church.
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Here's what I've been telling churches
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all over the world since the election.
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If we go back to sleep this time,
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if we drop the ball this time,
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if we don't unify as a body,
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if we keep fussing about stupid stuff in the body of Christ
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and we drop the ball again, we're done.
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We don't get another round, this is it.
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This is the back burner.
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This is plan B.
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This is the final occasion and the final opportunity
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we have to show the world
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what the kingdom of God really looks like.
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And so I'm gonna be loud and forceful and moving forward,
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00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
but I think in a different way,
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because I'm not interested in building up the White House.
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I'm interested in building up God's house,
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because if we do not clean up the corruption
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00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720
in the house of God, it doesn't matter who we vote in,
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Democrat, Republican, Independent,
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it makes absolutely no difference.
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00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,040
And so there has been a shift in me
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00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,720
and I am much more spiritually, I guess, oriented,
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understanding that it's really not about the guy
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that's sitting at the oval desk.
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It's really about the people that are behind God's desk,
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00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:44,960
the sacred desk, the pulpit.
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00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,640
And so pastors, men and women of God,
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we've got to stand up, we've got to push back,
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00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,200
we've got to preach,
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but we cannot let our people go back to sleep again.
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00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,120
We can't.
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We cannot let our people think, well, we got our way.
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00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,480
And so let's just sit back and do nothing
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00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,360
for the next four years.
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00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,360
No, I think we've got to stand up and do more
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in the next four years than we've ever done before.
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00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,760
Because now that I have grandkids,
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00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,200
I want to leave my grandson something to stand up for, right?
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00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,880
So it's not about the next four years.
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00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960
For me, it's about the next 24 years.
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It's about the next 40 years.
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00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,240
So body of Christ, do not get lazy on God.
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Don't get lazy on the kingdom.
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00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,920
Just because you got Trump in the office,
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00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,280
Trump's not the savior.
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00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,880
Jesus is the savior.
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00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,000
And when God raised up Cyrus, okay,
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00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,840
the people of God had to get busy.
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00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,080
The people of God still had to do something.
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00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,120
So we're in full blown building mode.
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And so let's just stay busy
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and stay vigilant for the cause of Christ.
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Amen. Amen.
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00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,000
So I guess you could say that you're,
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if you can kind of summarize your word for this year
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00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,560
is rest, but don't sleep.
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00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,840
That's exactly right.
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00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,040
That's exactly right.
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00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080
You need to rest, but don't you get too sleepy?
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00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,960
You know, rest well and then coffee up, right?
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00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,680
It's time to fight.
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00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,480
We still got to fight.
667
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,840
We still got to stay in the battle.
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00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,800
But we need to rest.
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00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,320
We need to fight about the right things.
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00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720
I've learned through the years, especially politically,
671
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,040
I don't have to show up to every fight I'm invited to.
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00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,680
I'm gonna fight the right things in the right ways.
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00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,440
Because if you lose your focus in the fight,
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00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,960
you'll fight the wrong people
675
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,400
and you'll fight the wrong battles.
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00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,840
And I don't wanna fight the wrong people
677
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,640
or the wrong battles.
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00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,920
I wanna fight demons, right?
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00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,880
I'm gonna fight wickedness and ungodliness
680
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,640
and leftism and wokeism.
681
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,760
I wanna fight the right things.
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00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720
And when you fight the right battles in the right way,
683
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,760
when you win the victory,
684
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,000
it means a whole lot more to you.
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00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,680
Amen and amen.
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00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,400
Pastor Greg Locke, thank you so much for sharing
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00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,600
what God has been doing and what he is speaking
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00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,240
about this next season as we're going into that.
689
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,400
Thank you so much for sharing that today.
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00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,220
Thank you, brother.
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Appreciate you.