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It was a way that we got the attention of people.
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You're sitting there video after video after video after video.
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All of a sudden you're come across a video that just says,
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you know, hey, we should stop scrolling.
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Why? Because we wanted the attention and that individual
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to hear the message that we were going to convey and communicate.
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You know, Brian, in 2020, the world changed quite a bit
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with the coronavirus causing lockdowns.
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And everybody was driven to school on Zoom or what other teleconferencing thing.
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But these things became way more popular for everybody.
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And, you know, social media sites like Instagram and TikTok and Facebook
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and YouTube became became huge.
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And I remember TikTok really, really was taking over.
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But I see those social medias as a tool and it can be used.
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And we see so much bad on these.
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But God has given you strategies and tactics to be able to not just
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use this, but to be able to train people how to use these tools for the kingdom of God.
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Let's talk about that a little bit, because this is something that really excites me
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just to see how you're able to share the gospel through these devices.
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Yeah, I think before we jump to what happened,
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it's important to get a good theology around digital.
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You have really you have two camps nowadays.
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You have people that say it's demonic and stay off of it.
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And then you have people that say God uses it.
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And I would just pose this question.
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Do you acknowledge those watching?
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Do you acknowledge that a computer screen, a phone screen or technology
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in general can cause bondage to pornography, can cause bullying and someone can kill
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themselves or can cause many other issues?
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Everyone would agree.
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Yes.
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So if you acknowledge the demonic and the darkness, then you also must acknowledge
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that God is able to use those same platforms as well.
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What the enemy meant for evil, God always uses for good.
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So if God can, if the devil could bring an addiction through a phone, why couldn't
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God bring freedom through a video?
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Amen.
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If a kid can be bullied, cyber bullied so bad that they take their own life at nine
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years old, why can a nine year old encounter the Holy Spirit by watching the video?
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I think the other proper way to see digital is very simple.
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You look at the book of Acts and you have the apostles and there's two stories in
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the book of Acts that have always stuck out to me.
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One is they're walking and their shadow is healing the sick.
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This is my shadow.
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This is an extension of who I am.
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There's no power in the phone itself.
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There was no power in the shadow.
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It was what the shadow was displayed.
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What about the scripture where the handkerchief, it would pray for the handkerchief.
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The handkerchief is your comment section.
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It's your ability to have this extension of who you are.
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And the Holy Spirit moves through that.
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I mean, we've seen over the course of those years, I remember there was one point
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we were putting out almost 4500 videos a month with a team of 25 to 30.
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We were seeing kids get baptized over Zoom.
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Wow.
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I remember this one kid didn't have a bathtub to baptize.
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He grabbed a bucket of water and dumped it on himself.
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And we got so many comments like that's not biblical.
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He didn't have full submersion.
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Anyone that would say that to me, you've only had Western Christianity.
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Because what do you do if you're in the Middle East and you're in a persecuted
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nation, you don't have the luxury of having a nice fancy baptism tank at a Sunday
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morning service.
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And my question to that individual was what do you do if you're in the Middle East?
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And my question to that individual was, well, is your faith in the amount of
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water or in the act of obedience that this kid is taking to try to obey the
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scriptures as much as possible?
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I mean, there was a point where we were reaching five million plus five to seven
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million a month.
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Videos and content.
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We grew very quickly across all of our platforms and our team to almost 11
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million followers.
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We opened up a text number over 18,000 kids text in, whether it's for
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fasting, salvation, prayer.
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We launched an app.
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I don't, I haven't checked the analytics, but last time I checked months ago, 14,000
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downloads of kids all over the world.
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And that app is now used to train how to start in, in, uh, on in-person Jesus
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clubs.
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And so we've seen the power of digital.
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We've seen the power of, of the Lord coming in in that way.
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Does it replace an in-person interaction?
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Of course not.
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Uh, but it's definitely a way that kids were connecting with God.
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And I don't think it's going to go away.
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Amen.
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So you just mentioned about these things.
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Uh, how can people follow you?
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How can people find you on these different platforms?
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Uh, they could type in my name, Brian Barcelona.
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Other accounts I would encourage you to follow is one voice student missions.
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Uh, let me check this out.
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The Jesus clubs, a gen Z for Jesus is another thing that we do.
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Um, yeah, I know, uh, gen Z for Jesus is, is big.
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Um, and I'd like to talk about that specifically because we're gen Z is really
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affected by social media.
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Um, and the first time that I heard about you, you were actually coming to my church
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to do a training on how to use social media effectively for the kingdom of God.
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What are some, what are like three tips that you can, uh, you can get for us right
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now, uh, to help us be able to craft some of these things, to help people reach the
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lost through their social media.
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The easiest thing I would say is download our app, the Jesus clubs.
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And I have an entire training that I break down everything you need to do to
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post and to start digitally.
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But I think just on a personal level, it's understanding that you have a message.
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If you're a believer, um, you don't need to be invited to a church to preach that
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message.
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You know, this is a pulpit today.
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Uh, the phone has become a pulpit.
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Share these short messages on your heart.
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They don't have to be these elaborate things.
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Share what God's placed you on your heart.
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Prayer videos go a long way.
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And I would just encourage you to not make your social media about what you ate that
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day or a picture of your dog.
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I mean, that's, that's amazing, but that's probably not going to change a life.
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Nobody cares that you ate lasagna last night at five 30.
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But you might put a video up just saying, Hey, today I just felt there might be
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someone who's battling, you know, is their life valuable?
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You know, let me tell you my story for, for, for a minute.
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You just never know what that could do for somebody.
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You never know.
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Someone praises prayer.
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God, if you're real, send me a video, you know, so I'd encourage you in those small
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ways just to be active.
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Yeah.
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And the social media is the modern day marketplace.
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I mean, we know that, uh, you know, the disciples, they went into the markets and
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they, they went out where people were to preach the gospel and that's what we're
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supposed to do now.
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And this is the marketplace that goes with you and people, uh, I don't know how
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many times I've been in places where a decade or two ago, I mean, people would
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just kind of stand quietly, but now everybody's looking down at their phones
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and they're scrolling through something.
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Um, but if you can be Jesus is hands and feet through this, you know, through
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these mediums and that's a, that's a huge benefit.
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And you're, you're encouraging people to stop scrolling.
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Um, tell us a little bit about that.
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Yeah, that term came in 2020.
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It was a way that we got the attention of people is, you know, how many, I mean,
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you've probably done it, John, I've done it a million times.
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You're sitting there video after video, after video, after video, you know, and
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all of a sudden you're, you come across a video that just says, you know, Hey, we
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said, stop scrolling. Why? Because we wanted the attention and that individual
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to hear the message that we were going to convey and communicate.
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I mean, we have videos we would say, I mean, it was as bold as we would say,
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stop scrolling.
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Don't watch pornography.
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And we would say some of you right now, you were thinking, I'm going to go watch
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a pornography video.
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Hey, God has a plan and a purpose on your life.
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And so those, those sort of videos really captured the attention of young people
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and really helped and really helped set them free.
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Wow.
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So what are some of these other topics that, that are really resonating with
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the younger generation right now?
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Uh, because I know you recently spoke, uh, on, uh, or a message that has been
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kind of resonating recently is about praise and, and having a, the culture of
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praise.
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Um, let's, let's talk about that.
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And maybe some other themes that people need to be aware of for this Gen Z.
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Yeah, I, man, I don't know if it's so much, uh, I kind of my style of preaching
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that I've had for 14 years is I preach whatever I'm going through in a season.
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So I typically will have a message sometimes for two or three years.
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I'll punch a message and then God will do something different and I'll preach
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a message that's relevant to my own life.
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I have felt that the key in this hour is praise.
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I mean, when you look at the body of Christ as a whole, all that's taking
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place around the world, um, you know, there are, there are seven Hebrew words
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of praise, which I won't break down now.
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Uh, one of the ones I will say is a word called Tehila.
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We've all heard that verse, God inhabits in the praises of his people.
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And when you hear that verse, you're like, okay, God inhabits in a church
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service or a Sunday morning service.
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That word praise in the Hebrew is Tehila and Tehila is a Hebrew word of praise,
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which means a new song or an unrehearsed song.
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We would coin that as spontaneous.
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And what I've communicated with people is Bethel did not create spontaneous
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worship.
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God did in the Old Testament.
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Uh, and there is a song that John could sing because of what John's gone through
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in his hard time of life that I can't sing for John.
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And so I think this message of praise is about engaging every believer, no matter
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where they fall in the spectrum of their maturity in their faith.
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Uh, there's another Hebrew word for praise called Todah.
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And Todah is a Hebrew word of praise, which means that you praise God for
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things you have not received yet.
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Why is that valuable?
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That gives you permission to praise God, even if you're still addicted, even if
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you're still full of shame, even if you're still going through struggles.
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Todah gives you the ability to join everyone else in that moment of praise.
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Although God, I, God, I'm believing for breakthrough.
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Maybe you're believing for breakthrough and freedom in your life.
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So God gives you that ability to praise God, even though you have not seen it yet.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That is, that is powerful.
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And there's seven different words for praise.
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And I actually learned those years ago from a Carmen song.
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And so those that resonates with me quite a bit, but that Todah is a, is a praise
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that I want to ask you to lead us in a prayer about, because there's so many
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people that are believing for their kids or their grandkids or their friends.
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And they just feel like that they're in the prodigal state and they're not going
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to come back and they feel like I can't even praise God because of where this is.
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Could you just speak to that and just, and pray and minister on those lines?
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I want to encourage those that are watching in this, that praise, there is a, there is
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a fragrance of praise that you could only give God on this side of eternity, that you
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will never be able to give him on the other side of eternity.
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Let me break this down real quick.
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The praise that I'm talking about is this.
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Angels praise God.
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Yes.
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Day and night, not in day, they praise God, but an angel has never known sin.
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We as human beings have known sin.
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We've known struggle.
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We've known temptation.
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So when we praise God, there is a different fragrance of praise that we can give him
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that not even an angel can.
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How many times have you praised God and you didn't feel like it?
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You're exhausted, you're worried, you press past your flesh and you give God a sacrifice
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of praise.
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Also, tears, for those of you that are criers, tears is something you could only give God
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on this side of eternity because in heaven he wipes away every tear.
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So there is a beauty in a human being praising God in its brokenness, in its frailty,
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in our frailty, in our humanity.
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It's so beautiful to God.
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It's like when my kids willfully give me something that they know they're not, you know,
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that they want to give or they know they're not supposed to.
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Maybe they say, Dad, I know I'm supposed to eat this candy here.
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It's obedience.
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Or my daughter who makes a total mess with her glitter and her gloom all over her room.
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And she comes and presents me with this tiny little furball thing that she glued on.
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And it's just, it's messy and it's broken, but it's from her heart.
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My God, that moves me more than her spending thousands of dollars on something.
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And I think you got to see praise like that.
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Todah is that it's where you come and you say, God, I am so broken.
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You know, I think in light of everything happening in the body of Christ right now,
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we must remember that David was a broken man.
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We would not disagree with his brokenness.
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Yet God took his life and wrote history with it.
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I mean, from his broken line came Jesus.
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David did probably some horrendous things that if they were done today,
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he would never be allowed to preach again in our Westernized culture.
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Yet we still read the book of Psalms.
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And David's life was poured out.
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I'm reading Psalms right now. He pours out. I mean, I was reading a scripture today.
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I think it's a seven line lines, like, how long will you let my soul counsel me? That's so deep.
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Your soul is your mind, will and emotions.
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David did not want his emotions to counsel him. He wanted the counsel of God.
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But David recognized his brokenness.
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And from that place, he gave thanks and he praised.
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And that's what I would encourage those watching that your brokenness does not disqualify you.
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And my prayer for the body of Christ today is that we would, we are being tested right now,
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more than ever in cancel culture.
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We are being tested of will we live what we've preached for years?
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Because I think we accept the fact that there's, there's sin that God forgives prior to the cross.
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But do you also know that in your brokenness as you're walking things as a believer,
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he also is near and he also draws close to you?
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And you may look at your family and you may feel so much brokenness and shame, but men,
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those are the greatest prayers that you'll pray.
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Remember in heaven, the 24 elders, they cast down their crowns. Why?
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Because in heaven, you give God your success.
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When on the earth, you give him, on the earth, you give him your mess in heaven.
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You give him your success.
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You can't give God your mess when you're in heaven anymore, but you can do that here on the earth.
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Amen. Amen. Brian, would you just pray for those that are watching?
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Absolutely. Jesus, thank you for everybody watching and listening.
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Lord, I pray their hearts would be massively encouraged God,
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that they would, they would just plant firmly in you Lord.
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And I bless them right now.
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Lord, I just bless their God ordained call.
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And I pray God that although this may be a dark night for them, God, joy comes in the morning.
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Your mercies are new every single morning.
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We bless them in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. If you want to make a difference online with younger people,
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I would recommend it. Get the Jesus clubs app that Brian talked about.
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And he's got a course on there that's going to help you be a digital discipler because Brian is a digital evangelist.
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He's a digital apostle really, because he's training and equipping and helping people that reach out to you.
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The next generation reach people through these tools and using them for the kingdom of God.
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Brian, it's great to have you here on Charisma to be able to connect with you.
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Thank you.
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Hear what God is doing through you, brother. God bless you.
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Thank you so much. Bless you.