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America has another round because the young lions are coming.
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The word of the Lord for 2025 is that we as the body of Christ are to storm Babylon.
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It could be a sign and a wonder or it could start to be the fulfillment of actual end time prophecy.
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The church is in danger of being defeated by victory. Church is the nuclear deterrent.
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I think we already would be in a nuclear war. I believe if we get to July before those things
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would really take full effect, I believe we're going to have the footing to go through the next
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part they throw at us. Joseph Z, it's always a pleasure to have you here on Charisma. We're
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going to be talking about what God is saying for the year 2025, but we have the privilege of
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recording in the past what God was saying for 2024, what God was saying about this do-over year.
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There's a lot of things that God has spoken to you historically, even recently, that we want to kind
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of look back at that stuff first before we launch into what God is saying for 2025. So Joseph,
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welcome back. Oh man, John, it's always such a privilege to be with you and the Charisma family.
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You guys are just amazing. I got a chance to see Chad earlier too, and all you guys are just
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remarkable. I'm just so grateful to you and Steve and everybody. Thanks for having me, brother. I
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look forward to getting into this with you. Amen. Amen. So let's talk about some of these
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previous words that you've had. I mean, 2024, we've talked, we've touched base about this a
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few times about it being a do-over year. In some ways we've seen the same baseball teams won
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the championship in 2020 and 2024. The Chiefs, yeah. The Chiefs, you know, winning the Super Bowl,
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the Dodgers winning the World Series. There was a lot of things that were kind of this do-over
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thing. Let's talk about that just a little bit. Well, you know, sometimes the natural things we
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see, they speak of the invisible. You know, this natural world is an extension of the spirit world.
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And so when you see things that are trying to manifest in the culture, manifest in society,
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good or bad, many times it's a representation of what's going on in the spirit realm. And so you
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see these things and that really showed that God was speaking and he'd been speaking to many prophets,
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speaking to us. And so the do-over word, I'm going to get a running start at this because
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all the way back, John, in 2015, the Lord sent me to Trump Tower. I was in Trump Tower in Chicago.
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And as I was there, the Lord began to speak to me about what was coming for America, all that.
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And I said, Lord, is Trump going to win this election and all this? And the Lord really
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didn't give me the grace to know if he was going to win or not. But he told me, I've called you to
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pray for this man. I said, okay. I said, well, what's going to happen to America? Is America
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going down? And the Lord answered me and said, no, America has another round because the young
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lions are coming. And then he actually showed me, watch Lance Wallna and you'll know who's going to
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win. And I said, okay. So I watched Lance. He won. So shortly after that, then we see in 2016,
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the election, 2020 comes around. Spirit of Lord says to me in 2019 through an angelic visitation,
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very clearly, the angel didn't appear to me, but I heard this voice roar in the room. And he said
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very clearly that the great God, Jehovah does not need you as much now, but he needs you after the
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2020 election. And then shortly on the heels of that, I woke up two different times into a vision
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where I saw Trump not win in the public eye. I saw him not win. And the Lord said it was through a
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technology. That's the voice I heard. He will lose by a technology. I said, okay. So when I prophesied
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that, John, I got to tell you, many people left, they didn't want to be around our ministry. It was
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not an encouraging word for people. Then you fast forward up to this time. And then the Lord showed
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me that this coming year, this 24 would be a do-over year of 2020. Like you mentioned, so many
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of the things that you're talking about. And then I began to get words such as there's going to be
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a shot heard around the world. I released that word in June. Then the morning that Trump got shot
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in the ear eight hours beforehand, live on my broadcast, I said, I hear the words, a shot is
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going to be heard around the world. And it's going to be like a Paul Revere anointing for people to
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bring the word of God forward and start ministering and going out. And there's going to be truth
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revealed. And it's going to be this thing. And the Lord kept speaking to me about, I'm going to do
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a thing in your day that you wouldn't believe if it was told to you, meaning with the election
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and where we were going in the fall time. And I kept asking him, is Trump going to win? Is Trump
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going to win? And like, we don't try to make everything all about Trump, but I got to tell
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you, he was a key figure for this time. And I kept asking the Lord, Lord, what are you showing me?
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And he said, as I showed you in 2020, that he would lose by a technology, he will win based on
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if the church shows up, I have placed this in the hands of the church. So that's one of the things
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I began to see. Now here we are in this cycle where we're going forward, this do over word,
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he faced off against a woman, just like he did in 2020, rather 2016. You see all these things
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happening, this do over narrative just keeps happening. And now I believe he's going to finish
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what he started. He's got unfinished business with Israel. He's got unfinished business with fixing
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and right sizing this nation. And I believe he is the catalyst to bring forth this word I have about
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the young lions coming, and there will be one more round coming for the nation. And so there's so much
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with this. But when 2020 broke out during the pandemic and all that, John, the Lord spoke to
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you with the lion, the bear, and we would face Goliath. I believe with this victory we've seen
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in November, I believe that is like a stone has just hit Goliath's head. But the issue is now we
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have to go and finish the job. We must go and take the sword and remove the head off the giant,
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because we need to go forward into the future head first. Amen. We got to get ahead in life.
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Right. And so anyway, that being said, I see all these things that are taking place.
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And the Lord is speaking to me very clearly about what is to come. And I sense because of this do
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over because of the way the Lord has done things, there is unfinished business that needs to take
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place. And I got to tell you, I believe we're going into a time of generational quaking and
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generational building. And so just recently, you know, this this new Superman trailer comes out,
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right? And I got a lot of things I can share about that I'm looking at and praying through.
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But this new Superman trailer comes out and Superman craters into the ground of the snow
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and ice in the beginning of this trailer. I'm watching this movie trailer and the spirit Lord
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begins to speak to me and said, pay attention to this. So I'm watching this movie trailer, John,
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and I start crying while I'm watching it because he craters in the ground. He's got blood coming
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out of his mouth. He's all beat up. He's wheezing. And suddenly he begins to whistle in this trailer.
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And then his dog, Crypto, comes to help him. This this snow's flying, the dog's running,
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and he comes there and he says, home, take me home, rescue me. Basically, Superman gets rescued. And
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the Lord spoke to me and said, that is America. That is the United States of America. That is the
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leadership of the church right now. That is many people that have been outcasts about to be turned
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into broadcasts. They've been persecuted and things are taking place. And so when this took place
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in this trailer, I prophesied that just a few days back, two or three days later, James Gunn,
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the guy who made the movie, comes out and says, I don't know why I'm saying this, but he went on Fox
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News and said, I believe this trailer represents the United States of America. This is America.
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And it has to do with America being defeated under a time of difficulty, all beat up, but rescuing and
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help is coming. And the Lord had spoke this to me. Now, like I said, the natural sometimes speaks of
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the invisible. There are things trying to get spoken into the culture from the spirit. And many
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times God will use popular culture. He'll use things to speak into the realm of the natural.
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And so I've seen this happening and I see these things unfolding, but the Lord showed me this.
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As soon as Trump won in November, the word of the Lord came to me and said, here is what we are in
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danger of right now. The church is in danger of being defeated by victory. They're in danger of
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being defeated by victory because although we've seen this good thing happen, we've seen light,
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shine and darkness. And in my opinion, the good guys have won. The bottom line is suddenly there's
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a nefarious supernatural force that's been released into the nation. It's been released into the world.
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It's a form of witchcraft. It's a form of Jezebel. It's a form of deviant voices, prophetic deviant
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voices. And all these things that are coming forward are trying to manipulate what's happened.
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And here's why I think that is, and this is the prophetic thing I've been praying into,
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is number one, darkness did not believe John, it did not believe it was going to lose.
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It believed Kamala was going to win. It believed it had a stranglehold on this nation and the
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nations and our future generations. When you got these wicked perverts like the WEF, the World
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Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab, the Bond villain who's saying, you will eat bugs and you will love
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it. You will do these things and you will do what I tell you to do. You got all this mess going on.
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You're going to all nothing and you will love it. That kind of stuff is the spirit that thought it
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was going to seize the day in November and it did not. The light beat the darkness. It put darkness
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on its heels to such a level that I don't believe John darkness knew what to do. It was so taken
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back. It didn't even know how to respond. And there was a strange lull in the spirit for a couple
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weeks. There was like a lull. It was almost as if time or something in the spirit just got quiet.
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It was just still for a moment and then suddenly it started to tick up again. And suddenly you see
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drones everywhere. Suddenly you see the threat of nuclear war. Suddenly you see all this chaos
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happening all over. And the reason this is happening is because darkness got put on its heels
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and it doesn't know what to do. It has no idea what to do. So now it's acting out in desperation
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and lashing out. So that's what I saw. But here's the danger for the church. We've seen victory.
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Now the supernatural forces are being released and what we've got to do is rise up in prayer and do
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what the Ecclesia does best. Push back the gates of hell. We need to push back the gates of hell
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and not shrink back and go, praise God, we've had a victory. Let's just watch what happens next. No,
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we need to get very, very proactive. One of the things I've seen, John, in quarter one and quarter
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two is this ongoing threat of nuclear war or this ongoing threat of a nuclear blast. As I
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have talked with you about, I believe before, I saw a vision where I woke up in the middle of the
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night or late at night and I suddenly saw this bus and I was on this bus and I'm looking at it
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and I saw a flash in the distance, but we were in a mountainous or foothill type region heading
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towards a city. And I'm looking at everybody and it was as if everybody got under dread. They knew
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something was about to be released and the air was strange and it was a strange moment and there was
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a flash and then heat came and I felt intense heat on my skin. That's the second time I've ever seen
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that. The first time was with Hawaii and then those fires happened in Hawaii, but I still believe
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there's a nuclear threat for Hawaii one day and I believe I saw a nuke. The Lord spoke to me as
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soon as I woke up from that and said, the church is the nuclear deterrent. The body of Christ is
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the nuclear deterrent. And I got a witness in my spirit that said, if we can go through quarter one
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and quarter two of this coming year without a nuclear incident or even if there is a small
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nuclear incident, we can still have the grace of God get us over that. And then we would go to July.
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And if we get to July without a nuclear incident, without some of these things taking the nation
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down, I believe we're going to begin to see the turn of the tide completely where we will see
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another run for our generation, our children's children, should the Lord tarry and not return.
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I believe that we will see a long generational run here. I believe we're up to 16 years
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of redemptive instability where we'll see a turnaround and victory come. I believe we can
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see 20 years of life that begins to build and rebuild to the year 2040. I believe God has a
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marker on that year. Now, Jesus could return right now. We could see many things begin to happen
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right now where the Lord would say, my goodness, the trumpet's blasting, he's coming back. He can
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do that right now. But the sense I have in the spirit is if the church keeps rising and we keep
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pushing back these nefarious powers and we keep allowing the gospel of Jesus Christ to go around
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the world and we keep preaching the good news and we keep preaching the word of God all over the
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world, what's going to happen is I believe we will stay off some of this nefarious stuff for
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another cycle. Now, it could change. We could see it come our way if the church shrinks back.
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We know Matthew 16 says the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, the Ecclesia.
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And as long as we're standing, we can push this stuff back. So I saw a number of things, John,
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that I believe is very important and I can go into them if you'd like. I can go down the road.
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Yeah, please.
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Okay. So what I saw is this, first of all, in 2020, in March of 2020, right before the pandemic
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happened, I heard these words. I stood up on a platform and prophesied that what I see coming
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is the lion, the bear, and Goliath is coming. I believe the lion and the bear have come in the
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form of intimidation, economic crisis, all this stuff. There's more economic crisis to come,
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but Goliath is coming. And I believe with November, what happened? I believe we struck him in the head
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as I just said, we have to remove his head and finish the job. I believe Goliath is at the one
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yard light. He's standing at the door and we have to finish the job now. Now, seeing that,
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I believe the church is in danger of being defeated by victory. But then the Lord spoke to me about
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this word that I heard in my spirit called the arrows of warning. Pay attention to the arrows
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of warning. I said, okay, what's this about, Lord? And this word came to me out of second Kings,
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chapter 13. It's the narrative where Elisha is on his deathbed. He's 90 something years old,
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according to many commentators. Elisha is there. He's on his deathbed. And then King Joash comes
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and wants to meet with the prophet because he's having issues. He's trying to get victory over
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his enemies. He comes and meets with Elisha, the prophet. And during that time, as he walks in,
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John, the first thing King Joash says is my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof.
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He quotes back to Elisha, which was the protege of Elijah, quotes back to him what he said when he
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saw his father, his mentor taken up into heaven. One of the things that Elisha was experiencing
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is a king that was coming to him with nostalgia. He's saying, I know this happened in your lifetime.
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I love the story. And is this going to happen now? There was a nostalgic moment, but he was coming
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for help. And then Elisha said, okay, here's what you're going to do. Take your bow, point it out
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the Eastern window, string it back, pull it back, and release an arrow out the East window. Elisha,
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when he saw him do this, put his hands on the king's hands and did a prophetic act. They did this.
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But then a peculiar thing happened right on the heels of this, John. Elisha says to King Joash,
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take a handful of arrows, go down, and strike the ground. And he didn't tell Joash how many times
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he should do this. He didn't tell Joash you should do it X amount of times. He did not give him
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a paint-by-numbers prophecy explaining exactly what he should do. Instead, Joash said, okay,
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I'm going to do it. He took the arrows, gets down, strikes the ground three times, and stands back
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up. Elisha looks at him, became very angry, and said, you should have struck the ground five or
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six times, and then you would have completely annihilated your enemies. Now you will only defeat
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them three times. And the Spirit of the Lord spoke to me and said, much like Joash, the church is stuck
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in the still just saying, my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof, I want to have revival,
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I want to have memories of the former days with you, prophetic voice of God or just the Lord.
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I want to have experiences that I once had that you had, and I want to live in nostalgia. And then
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please help me with this thing I got going on. And the church is saying, let's have victory.
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They fire the arrow out the eastern window, and then the prophet says to them or to Joash,
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you strike the ground. He didn't tell him how many times. He simply told him you do this.
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And it must have been lackadaisical. It must have not have been in the faith required to meet the
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enemy. It was not something that impressed the prophet because he basically did the minimum
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amount required. In other words, he was phoning it in. There was not faith. There was not aggression.
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There was not let's do this. Let's finish the job. And because of it, the prophet rebuked him and
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said, you'll have victory, but it'll be minimal. I believe the word to the church right now is keep
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striking with the arrows. Keep striking, keep pushing back the darkness, continue striking
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until the enemies are vanquished. Because the word of the Lord for 2025 is that we as the body of
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Christ, the ecclesia, are to storm Babylon. I want everybody to hear this right now. If you're in the
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church, we are to storm Babylon. Well, what does that mean? It means we are to continue rising in
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prayer, pushing back this nefarious agenda of witchcraft, darkness, social evils, this woke
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ideology, this control over our economics, this wickedness that's happening with an invasion
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of our nation, all the things that are unfolding that have happened over the last four plus years.
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We now need to drive it up. And we're going to see that we are storming Babylon when things like
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the Epstein list get released and revealed, when things like the Diddy list get released,
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and then many other things are advanced and released. We will know we are storming Babylon
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as a sign and wonder when suddenly we begin to see a forfeit against foreign adversaries buying up
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American soil. I believe we will see a sign happening when there's a form of imminent domain,
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John, that comes against these guys and says, no, get out. You're not allowed to be here. And
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they are thrown out by imminent domain, like Sarah Huckabee Sanders started to do. I believe we will
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see that that will be a sign. I believe if we get through quarter one and quarter two without a
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nuclear incident and we get to July, I believe we're going to see the turn of the tide happening
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for what's taking place in this nation. Now, a number of things that I've experienced and
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seen with the storming of Babylon is this. We are now going to see warfare over gatekeeping platforms
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of media, gatekeeping platforms with legacy media. We're going to see warfare over gatekeeping
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platforms in the Christian media realms. And I got to tell you, it is absolute Jezebelian.
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It is absolutely a spirit of the Antichrist. It is a spirit wanting to crush gates of influence
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to bring truth to the culture. And I'm telling you, a lot of the church is playing right into it,
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and it is horrible and evil. And what we need to do is keep rising up in faith, preaching the gospel
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and letting the Lord deal with his people. He is head of the church. This is so important.
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One of the things I began to see and I'm praying about this is I saw two forms of deviant prophetic
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voices that are going to manifest more and more. Two deviants, two types. One, there's the John the
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Baptist type, which, you know, we both know that the John the Baptist type is great. We want John
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the Baptist to rise up. We want John the Baptist to stand up and offend the institutions and shake
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them to repentance. He's a deviant. It's what he does. He doesn't fit in well. He doesn't play well
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with others. But then there's a second type of deviant prophetic voice. Those that are prophesying
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out of their own soul, out of their own ideology, and out of their own worldview. And that is wrong.
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And when you begin to do that, you're doing a form of gainsaying. You're bringing out your own
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soulish prophetic words out of your own offenses or your own agenda. And here's what that causes.
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It causes wandering. It causes wandering. One is a deviant that's uncomfortable for the church
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and uncomfortable for the world. John the Baptist, he calls him out. He's a deviant.
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It's not necessarily evil to be a deviant. You're just not comfortable. You don't fit in.
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But the other kind of deviant will begin to prophesy from their own soul and try to push agendas,
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guising it as prophecy. And it'll cause wandering. People will buy in and they will wander,
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because that's one of the things false prophetic words do. They cause people to wander and they
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never hit their destination. They get caught up in some kind of sensationalism or ideology.
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They go to war on the wrong mountain. And it causes them to expend all their energy on
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conspiracies, expend all their energy on running in circles and attacking the wrong thing when they
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should be focused on the gospel and they should be hearing the pure word of the Lord. And this is a
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time for people to discern. So I see that as a thing that'll come if the church doesn't stand up
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and do what they're supposed to do. But again, over this warfare of gatekeeping platforms,
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this involves a legacy TV, legacy media. It involves all these things. And you're going
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to see the change of hands happen over and over again, I believe going into this year
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on different platforms. One of the things the Lord showed me about two and a half years ago is that
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Elon Musk would buy Twitter. I wrote it on the whiteboard. I saw this becoming a form of freedom
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tech. And when freedom tech happened, it was going to create pressure on many other platforms and
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they would have to fall in line with it. And you're seeing that on social media. Now it's starting to
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trickle into the mainstream media and trickle into the legacy media spaces. So I believe that's going
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to happen. But there's spiritual warfare that the church needs to be attuned to and praying over
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to stop any form of wrong warfare, taking down the wrong kind of leadership. And the Spirit of God is
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saying, this is not His will. We need to stand up and we need to pray and we need to intercede.
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And many people not being apprised to real circumstances need to close their mouth and
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let the Spirit of the Lord do what He does best, be head of His church and run the whole show that
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way. So that's one thing I see also. Then I see the area of Israel and America. Back in 2020,
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I had a vision about the angel of red, white and blue standing in America. And the angel of red,
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white and blue was standing there and it was alone. But then I saw the angel of white and blue
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standing and the Lord spoke to me about America and Israel and how America treats Israel going
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into this next season will determine the longevity of this nation. And I believe with Trump going
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back in, we are going to see a good relationship between America and Israel again. Now listen,
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whatever Israel's politics are, whatever their moral compass is in their nation with all the
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liberal ideology and wokeism and all the stuff that we don't appreciate as believers really has
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nothing to do with the covenant God made with the land. And this is the part that's hard for people
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is the bottom line is although every individual is responsible to Jesus Christ as their savior,
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whether they're Jew, Gentile, whatever, you need to know Jesus and you need to repent and come to
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Jesus. But Israel as a nation has a covenant with God and the land has a covenant with God.
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And when you begin to violate that covenant, it's not about how good the people are being in the
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land. It's about the covenant God made with the land. And there's a big difference here. You got
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to recognize that. So this is where nations get in trouble. They're like, well, we're going to go
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against Israel. I'm telling you, you don't want to do that. And America as it stands with Israel and
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with Jerusalem, there's going to be a prophetic blessing on this nation that the Lord showed me
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would be very, very powerful. And so John, I see a number of things happening by way of miracle
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in the economy. I see oil miracles. I see a number of things God wants to do this coming year. And
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there's more I could go into, but that's some of the snapshot of what I'm seeing for 2025 and beyond.
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Yeah. So I remember in the past, you've used your whiteboard and you've talked about this,
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you've drawn this line and it goes down 30, 60, a hundred. And there's this tornado thing there.
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But then there's a, there's a time of, I guess that's redemptive instability. And then it goes
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up 30, 60 and a hundred. That's right. Are you seeing that we're in that 30, 60, a hundred going
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back up right now? Where do you see this playing out in relation to what God's saying about?
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I see us at the bottom of the part where we go down from 30, 60 to a hundred fold into the valley.
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I see us hitting the valley, the bedrock. I think the most fiery parts of what's going to come next
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have not happened yet. I think that we're going to see a great challenge, but from that great
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challenge will come victory. So the tornado and the storm and the difficulty, we're either entering
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it or we're in it. And I believe that July is going to be a major milestone for what's going
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to happen. So it is my sense that as we're at the beginning of the year and we come to July,
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if we don't see a nuclear event, if we don't see one that really impacts America,
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one of the big concerns I keep seeing is this solar flare narrative. I see this over and over
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again when I pray and that they're going to use real solar flares as a false flag for them to do
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some nefarious things with our technology involving hacking, involving EMP activity,
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involving things where they could bring down whole networks or social media.
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And I believe if we get to July before those things would really take full effect,
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I believe we're going to have the footing to go through the next part they throw at us.
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And by they, I'm talking about those that don't want to be unseated over at the World Economic
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Forum, those that don't want to be unseated at the WHO, those that don't want to be unseated
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at the United Nations, and those that don't want to be unseated in the current Manchurian
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administration that we're talking about right now. So I believe that if we can just continue
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to drive forward with what God's called us to do, July will be a tent peg. It will be a turning
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point. It'll be a stalwart. It'll be something that we recognize. We've come through a lot and
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now we can begin to build forward. That's what I sense powerfully. That to me would be looking at
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the possibility of coming out or into that valley where we start seeing the 30 mark to go up again.
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Okay. Wow. Yeah. Thanks for giving us an update on where we are on that time.
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Well, John, 26, 26, I keep hearing this word, 26 is a year of pick up sticks. And if 26 is a year of
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pick up sticks, I believe if we do this right and the church continues to rise, it is contingent on
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what the church does. If we get to 26 and we're doing it, the church is showing up the way it
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showed up in November, then I believe 2026 will be Psalm 126. 2026 will be Psalm 126, that what we
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sowed in tears, we will reap in songs of joy. And just like Superman whistling in that video,
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because Superman in the 1940s, they gave him the subtitle or the three phrase name that went with
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him or just identifier that says for truth, justice, and the American way, truth, justice,
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and the American way. And I believe that is what we're headed towards. And 26, I think is really
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Psalm 126. If we can see it where the righteous have cried, they've sown in tears, they'll reap
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with songs of joy. And we are going to literally be like those who dreamed and say, my goodness,
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could this really be, could this be happening? And the Lord is saying, if you will, if you'll do this,
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if you'll line up with me, if you won't fall for this deviant stuff, but you continue to drive
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forward in a spirit of faith, we're going to have great days in front of us. I really believe that.
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Yeah, that's, you're not the first person I've heard about 26, the Psalm 126. There's something
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on that for sure. But you mentioned something about Israel earlier, and I just was reminded
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of something that happened in my life. I remember where I was, I forget the exact date, whenever I
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heard that there was some sort of a map that the Trump administration had made, where there was
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some sort of a two state solution. I was actually a television producer for a Christian network in
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Pittsburgh at the time. I was in the green room when we had this, when we were talking about this.
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And I believe it was the guest that said, there's something very interesting. He said, that is going
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to bring a curse upon the world. And it was that night, I believe that I was tuning into the epic
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times. And I was started hearing about these people in Wuhan falling over from this, this virus.
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And so how about that? I mean, it might have in actuality laid out a slightly different,
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but for me, everything correlated to that one day when the United States put its hand on the land
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of Israel. What is God saying to you about Israel a little bit deeper here? I feel like there's more.
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Soterios Johnson Absolutely. I believe very strongly, John, that the Lord, you see you got
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this Damascus thing where they're falling, Damascus fell, all that, Syria. Then you've got people
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reaching out to me even about the, the river Euphrates. And you see all these signs that are
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taking place. Now, one thing I want to say about Damascus and the river Euphrates is this,
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it could be that we're getting so close to the end. Okay. And I believe this correlates with Israel.
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We're getting so close to the end, we see all these things happening, or it's what the
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Latin word sensus plenior means. And this, this, this word in the Latin, it means a deeper,
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fuller meaning. In other words, sometimes the natural is crying out about things that are happening
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in the spirit even before it's truly prophetic time. So I was over in Turkey standing at the
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river Euphrates. I was looking at it, and this was just about six months ago, eight months ago,
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then I'm standing there looking at it. And I realized this is biblical. You know, it's,
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it's draining, it's drying up. It's, it's from some militarized action. A lot of things are happening
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with it. And I began to seek the face of the Lord over this. And the bottom line is I think like
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every generation, if we do our part, it can only, it could be a sign and a wonder, or it could start
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to be the fulfillment of actual end time prophecy where we step into it. So I believe that is true
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of Israel also, how America treats Israel and what begins to happen there is very serious. Now,
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there's so many people, as we said earlier, that they're negative on Israel. They're like,
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wow, you got to be spiritual Jews and you got to be this, you got to be that. It is so, so,
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um, ridiculous to say those things. When you look at the promises God made with the actual territory,
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with the land in scripture. And when you look at that, that is when you start to go, oh, wait a
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second, God's covenant with that nation is different than God's covenant with his church.
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It's different than God's covenant with America, for example. I believe George Washington held
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America up and said, I'm making a covenant with you, God, over this land. I think that's why we've
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had supernatural victory after victory when we should have never survived. But Israel's different.
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It's the apple of God's eye. He chose it and that's the bottom line. So whether there's
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immorality running around in Israel, people are misbehaving, all that, God has a covenant with
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that land more than any other land in this, this world. And we've got to recognize that. And so
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how we treat that land, or if we decide, like you're saying, to split it up or do what we're
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going to do and just go in through geopolitical ideology, we are going to find either judgment
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or blessing based on that. So my sense about Israel with the United States, with Trump going in,
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is I believe he's going to get an opportunity, a do-over to finish what he started with
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righteousness. And I'm telling you, I think we're going to see a good thing happen.
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Now, if it doesn't, praise God, Jesus is coming soon and we're going to begin to be out of here
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sooner than we think and stuff's coming. But I have a sense that it's an opportunity to do
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the right thing. You know, there's a whole interesting narrative. I don't know if people
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know this, but several years were put into the reconstructing of a exact replica of the Ark of
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the Covenant. And when these people reconstructed it with every detail and they took years, made of
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gold, made of all the substances that the Ark of the Covenant was made from, they began to get it
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ready to go to Israel. But during the time of construction and its finishing, they had to have
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a holding place for it for a very long period of time. And here's the craziest part, John,
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you probably know this, but the Ark of the Covenant that they reconstructed was kept at Mar Lago.
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They kept it at Mar Lago until they brought it over there. Now, without going into this,
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I know some other narratives about the Ark of the Covenant and some things that I've heard
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rumblings about and prophetic things I've been reached out to because I've seen things about it.
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And I got to tell you, I believe that there's a prophetic significance about this. And the fact
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that it was there and it's going over there, I believe the Lord is doing something magnificent
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that I think is going to blow everyone away. And I like to say this because everybody
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has their idea. Opinions are a lot like noses. Everybody has one, but it might have a couple
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of holes in it. And so the bottom line is like over with Israel, when you're seeing the events
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that are unfolding, I always go back to the first time Jesus came. The first time Jesus came,
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the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the experts of the law, they all missed it. And they knew the Word
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of God. They knew the prophecies. They knew what was supposed to happen with Jesus coming or the
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Messiah. They thought he was going to go take over Rome and do all these things. And they weren't
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incorrect. They were just incomplete. They were correct. They just weren't complete.
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They didn't see the whole picture. And so I believe if it happened the first time that way,
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now granted we have the Holy Spirit, we have discernment on these things, different.
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We have the completed canon. But the bottom line is they saw it one way and the early people back
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then in the time Jesus showed up, they didn't call it appropriately. Even the people Jesus
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called to himself, they could barely figure it out until the Holy Spirit came. Okay. Even Peter
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Peter finally said, you're the Christ, the son of the living God. And he said, that's it, Peter.
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That's it. Now you know the truth, but man didn't reveal this to you. My father revealed it to you
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through revelation. And upon this revelation, I'm going to build my church and the gates of hell
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will not prevail against it in Mark 16. But what I'm saying is, is that is the same thing that's
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happening right now. If it happened that way, that people didn't fully understand the first coming of
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Jesus or interpret everything perfectly. We see today, everybody's either pre, mid, post, whatever,
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they're all over the place with it. They're pantheology, whatever it is, right? They're
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not interpreting things the right way. So when I look at Israel, I look at where we are on the
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scope of biblical events in the end times. Yes, there are things being fulfilled, but we also have
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to take a very big grain of salt and be humble because we need to realize some of the experts of
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the law didn't get it right the first time. And we're here on the last of the last days,
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but I believe census pleinir says we could have a deeper, fuller meaning. We could be seeing
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prophetic events manifesting that will continue to manifest. And they'll kind of be like they
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repeat themselves over and over again until the Lord actually returns. So John, it could be,
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could be that although we're at the last of the last days and Jesus could return right now,
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while we're on this broadcast, he could, we could also be seeing a very long season of time in
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front of us. So we need to build like it. We need to work like it. We need to honor the Lord Jesus
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in this time that we're living. That's what I believe. That's something we always need to do
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is honor the Lord Jesus in the time that we are living. And we can't just look to the past,
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see what people have done and live on their, live on their foundation. We can't just look into the
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future and say, it's going to all be good. We are the people that God has called for us to live today
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that needed act and occupy until he comes. So that's, I think that's one of the things that
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you were mentioning earlier is that, you know, if the church does what we have called it, what we
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are called to do, we will see these things happen. It's an if then statement. And it goes back to the
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second Chronicles seven 14. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray,
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then I will hear from heaven and I will heal their, or they turn from their wicked ways.
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I will hear from heaven and I will heal their land. So we have an opportunity to do what God
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has called us to do. And today is the day of that opportunity. Yep. And we better stand with Israel.
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You know, when you're talking about Israel, I'll tell you one thing we need to know. You can watch
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prophetic events by watching Israel, but you know, no man knows the day or time or the hour, any of
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that stuff we know only the father in heaven knows when the end is actually coming or when Jesus is
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coming back or all of it. But what we got to do is we do get to keep watching. We got to keep
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discerning. We got to keep recognizing Jesus is coming soon, but that soon has been 2000 years in
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the making. He said, I'm coming soon. I come quickly. And that's 2000 years ago. And every
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generation believes they're there, but Israel really is the barometer. It's the compass. It's
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the marker that we got to watch these things by. Absolutely. You know, Joseph, as I was just
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wondering, is there anything else that you feel that you're at liberty to share about 2025?
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Okay. I'll share the things that have been released to share because there are things I pray about,
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you know, that we know that we just got to obey the Lord with, but I'll tell you,
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one of the things I saw is this. I saw an economic miracle after a downturn and I've been seeing this
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for some time. The only crypto the Lord has ever showed me was XRP and that could go up. It could
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crash. It could come back. But I've seen that over and over again. And let me just say to everybody,
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when you hear prophetic things about stuff and people say, didn't you know that Kim Clement
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prophesied about that too? I didn't know that until recently, but about three years ago, I was
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writing on the board and I said, of all the cryptos, I've only seen XRP. And then I tell people,
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don't go investing in this unless the Holy Ghost tells you to do it because, you know, I'm not a
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financial expert here, but I'm just simply saying what I've seen that could mean it crashes and
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comes back. But I've seen that there's something involving XRP that I think will have longevity
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to it. That's all I know. I'm going to say this also, the economic miracle is going to be based
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on oil. This is something I've seen for a few years now, oil. It's going to be based on new
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inventions. It's going to be based on witty ideas that begin to happen. And I believe the Lord's
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going to do something magnificent. We're going to see some downturning. We're going to see some
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shaking in the housing market. We're going to see all that. And we're going to see a correction
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come for sure. But in that, I think it's going to be either a difficult landing or a devastating
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landing. I think it's going to be a little difficult for a season, but then I think a
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revival is coming economically. And that's something that's coming. The statement about
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foreign land, you know how China's buying up land and they're buying up and making police stations
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all across the nation in different cities. I believe that is going to be ejected. I have a
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sense that if we continue to pray, one of the things I see is a forfeit of that or a form of
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imminent domain on a governmental federal level where they say, sorry, you go against the principles
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of our land. We cannot tolerate this. And I see a form of imminent domain where they send them away,
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send them packing from the ground they are trying to possess. I see the deportation narrative.
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I see a number of things with property and land for people where they lost it being reversed and
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coming back to them. There's a miracle for land with people in 25, but 26. I see that. Another
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thing, and I'll just say this very quickly, is I see a water crisis trying to rise and I see the
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Lord giving wisdom to people. And I prayed into this. I see the Lord giving wisdom to those in
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power to begin to avert that or correct it. But there's a water crisis coming. In addition to
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this cyber warfare. Can I just pop in here a second? Just because you talked about this water
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thing last year. Yeah. And I find it very interesting that what we're starting to see with
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., R. F. K. Jr. coming out against fluoride being in the water. I think this
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is part of that fulfillment. I mean, as I've seen, I mean, there's an area here in Florida that
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they say we are no longer going to have fluoride in the water. And there are areas that are going
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to do this as well. And so keep the water free. It might not just be the cost. It might be keep
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the water free of these other contaminants or these other chemicals. That's powerful.
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I'm happy to hear that about Florida too, because that kind of stuff is truly evil to poison people
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that way. And so that's good news, John. I did not know that. Thank you for sharing that. I also see
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this thing about cyber warfare and they're going to start to find correction. The big watchword for
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this coming year is going to be Willow. Willow. This Google quantum computing chip and their
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abilities with it. There's so much more to this that I feel like is going to get unveiled. And
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I don't know, just shown to the public or pieces are going to come out that they'll say,
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I didn't know this. Wow, my goodness. I didn't know about this. It's been in my spirit so strong
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about Willow that they're going to be able to, as they're saying, contact other dimensions,
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communicate with them and do all this stuff. But that goes in line with this word I've had for
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months now about the tear in the fabric of reality. We're going to see more and more of that. AI is
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going to get so powerful through Willow and things like it that we won't be able to determine what is
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real and fake when they present it through this type of tech. And that's just over the next few
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months even. And then finally, I'll just share this. I believe we're going to see extreme weather,
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record breaking extreme weather on a variety of fronts. If it has the label weather on it,
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it's going to be extreme in one way or another. And then a big thing I keep hearing is this solar
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flare narrative. Every time I pray and I look in the future, solar flares keeps coming to me.
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Then I believe solar flares is going to be used as a false flag where it may be a real solar incident,
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but they're going to use it for their purposes. And again, we've identified who they is.
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But the bottom line is solar flares, I believe they could do all kinds of nefarious activity with it,
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such as destroying cell communication, grids, power, all of it. There's a lot of things that
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will shake and then the day will come when the satellites are in the news, satellites, satellites,
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satellites, and it'll be involved with hacking. And I believe that they're going to find answers
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for all this though. This would have been detrimental. I think we already would be in
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a nuclear war had Kamala won. But the fact that she didn't, I believe we're averting, we're diverting,
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we're going around this and the church is the nuclear deterrent. The church is the deterrent
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of all these anti-Christ plagues that want to break loose on a variety of fronts. I think the UFO
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narrative is going to get more and more extreme until finally they have ultimate disclosure where
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we see one, it speaks, something happens, meaning an entity. And the bottom line is all of it is
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evil, nefarious, it's deception, it's demonic, it comes from another realm, or it's just technology
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that is very extreme or a mix of all of it. And then of course that gets us into the Project Blue
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Beam and all that stuff. It's another conversation we can talk about for an hour or so easily.
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Yeah, but that's what it says. Yeah. Wow. Joseph, would you just pray for the people that have been
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watching this? Yes, sir. You know, one of the things I want to say to this awesome audience,
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yours and Charisma and you, John and everybody, is that you don't have to be afraid of this stuff.
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You don't have to fear anything. Christ in you, the hope of glory is greater than he that's in
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the world. And even on a bad day, you're anointed to be the best there is. And God has called you.
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He has marked your life with his glory. So the darkness is the thing that should be shaking,
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not you. You're the Ecclesia and the gates of hell doesn't stand a chance against you. So I
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bless you. I speak the peace that passes all understanding over your life. In Jesus' name,
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even on that bad day, you have a revelation. And a man or woman of the revelation from God Almighty
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is not at the mercy of a culture going mad. God has called you. Your future is bright.
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Your children are going to be OK. God is with you and Jesus loves you more than he can even
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tell you. I got to tell you, Jesus loves you and there's nothing you can do about it. So you might
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as well get in cooperation with him. God's not mad at you. He wants a bright future for you.
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Cooperate with him. Get into prayer. Get to know him. Run to him, not from him. And darkness won't
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stand a chance. Jesus is Lord. He's with you. Amen. Amen and amen. Joseph Z. Thank you so much
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for taking the time to share what God has said, how we've seen it fulfilled and what God is saying
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for the year 2025. Thank you, brother. It's a privilege to be with you every time, John. Thank you, sir.