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We know it was Agent Orange's cause. We know that. We know it was cancer and it's a killer.
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And to this day, they still don't have a cure for it. Why is it my kidney,
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one kidney that's left, is functioning so well and doing so well? He said, well,
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there's only really one word to describe what just happened to you. He said, it's a miracle.
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And he took his pen and he wrote across the file and wrote the word, this is a miracle.
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Miracles are real and they are not just for special people. They're for everybody.
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And we need to have faith for those miracles. And with me today is Pastor David Friend of
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Quality Christian Living. And his mission in life is to help Christians live to their full potential.
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And Pastor David, it's great to have you here on Charisma. And we're going to share your story
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of how God has brought you to where you are today and the miracles that you are seeing in
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your life today. So David, it's great to have you here.
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Well, it's nice to be here, John. I appreciate the invite and I'm excited about this because
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anytime we talk about faith, we talk about miracles, we talk about Christians lives being
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changed, I get excited because that's what God wants us to live. Remember Jesus said,
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He wanted to give us life, abundant life. And the old devil comes to kill, steal and destroy,
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but he's got life. And that's what we want to talk about, how to live that great life.
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Yeah. So let's talk about that abundance. Could you first give us that definition of abundance?
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And what is the revelation that God has given you with the term abundance?
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Well, you know, I really like the word abundance. Matter of fact, at one time I was going to call
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my podcast, Abundant Living, and then Dr. Green, bless his heart, who passed away years ago,
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a short time ago, and his podcast was about abundance, living type thing. And so I
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held off from that. But because I believe that quite frankly, what I just mentioned earlier,
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John 10, 10, where Jesus was talking, he says, the devil comes to kill, steal and destroy,
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but I've come to give life and give it more abundantly. I believe that Christians live far
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below the life that God intended for them. And Jesus even said more abundantly. Each other
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translation says exceedingly abundantly, you know, those types of expressions. Jesus wants us to live
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abundantly. And I believe that in a lot of Christians live way below their life. I stayed
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away from being a Christian because I thought they were sad people and they weren't happy people.
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And the devil was lying to me about that. And you couldn't be successful and you couldn't have any
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drive or ambition and you couldn't prosper financially or couldn't, you know, live a really
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great life. And it was sad. Now, all of a sudden, when I became a Christian, I started reading with
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the word of God says, and it's just totally opposite. When you use the word abundance,
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you, you, people sometimes instantly latch onto this name it and claim it type thing where grab
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what you can get and grab it, blab it and grab it. And all those old corny statements that they said,
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you know, and that has to do with money and prosperity and all that. Well, I, I believe that
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tiny portion of it. Yeah, it does. But abundant living is living according to God's plan for our
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life, living according to God's purpose and plan and according to his will and based upon what the
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scriptures say, how we should live and God's remember God's scriptures, the word of God gives
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us 800, 8,000 promises in the word of God that he has for followers of Jesus Christ. So we need to
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live that abundant life. That means a happy, joyful life filled with joy and not to be anxious about
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anything. And I can just go on and on. So I believe in abundant living. I believe in a positive
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approach to life, not the power of positive thinking, but a positive form and a walk with God
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and a leaning upon the Holy Spirit and reliance upon the Holy Spirit who lives and dwells inside
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of us to then, to then come out and express who he is and who he wants us to be in Christ. And that's
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being happy, joyful, a smile on your face, even in the midst of trials. And the apostle Paul certainly
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taught that he learned how to be happy in the middle of, middle of whatever he was going through.
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So that's what abundant living is to me about. So I want to hear about your journey to understand
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of this abundant living, because you said that you stayed away from it because really Christians
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were not living in abundance. We're not paying a good, good examples, I guess, of the promises
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and purposes that God has for us. Yeah. I know you were in the military and you, you've served in
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Vietnam. Was this part of the way that God has brought you to him? Tell us that story.
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Well, I was raised in a Southern Baptist home. My mom and dad, we were Southern Baptists, but none
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of us were Christians. None of us, that may seem weird, but we had not, none of us had given our
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life to Jesus Christ. We just went through the process, go to church, go home, go to church, go
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home. Don't know why, but that's what you did. And, and, and when I saw that experience, and then I,
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when I started seeing people who were Christians, they talked about how people Christian,
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Christians should be humble and meek and lowly and not worry about being successful and not
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have any concerns about having a nice home or a nice car. And I was even told that that's kind of
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how Christians live. You know, we, we can't have those things because we're believers in Christ.
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So therefore we have to be very poor and very meek and very humble. And that's just, and that kept
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me away from receiving Christ. I went into the military, served my time there. I was not a
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Christian, went to Vietnam and God saved my life. I used to pray, God, if you're real, if you're up
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there, could you get me through this? I'm going to be here in the middle of the night, people
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shooting at me and a sniper fire coming in. And I would say, God, would you do this? And I, I didn't
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really know how to pray, but I knew there was God, but I just kind of stayed away from it. Then,
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when I became a Christian and a matter of fact, it was so still in me that we had a really nice
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home before we became Christians and nice cars and all that. We sold all that and got a modest
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house and modest cars and wanted to look more kind of like what we thought was what the Christian was.
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But then I started waking up and the Holy Spirit started waking me up and started showing me that
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Jesus wants me to live an abundant life. Paul said, I want you to be free of anxiety and worry
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and doubt and fear and all those, and the fruit of the Spirit says have love, joy, peace, patience,
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goodness, kindness, you know, on and on. All the wonderful promises of God started telling me that
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if I seek him first, then all these things shall be added unto me. And if you have dreams and desires,
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then put God first and your dreams and desires can come true. So it was a process that took me time.
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And when it all burst out though, I realized that we've got to live the life that Jesus
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wanted us to live. And it was a joyful, happy life filled with success and filled with joy
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and abundant living. So that's the process. That's the process. Okay, so you went into the
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military and you served in Vietnam. And so first off, thank you for your service. And I know that
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there was a chemical that was being used there that really, it had a purpose, but then there
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was a lot of negative effects from that. David, can you tell us this whole story and just take the
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time to do this? Because I think this is, this really needs to be told and I don't want it to hold
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back. Sure. Well, you know, when I was 18 years old, I was in college and I got a letter from the
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government saying that they were going to throw me out of college and put me up for the draft.
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And I would be receiving a notice. And so by when I turned 19 is when I got my notice and they said,
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uh, you're out of school and you're into the army now. So I went through my training, whatever.
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The next thing I know, I was called, I was not a Christian at this time. And I was called to go to
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Vietnam. I only had a two year requirement to be in the military because I was, uh, I volunteered
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for the draft just to get it over with kind of a thing, never thinking I'd go to Vietnam. We knew
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what Vietnam was, of course. And so then all of a sudden we got our training and off we went and I
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was sent over there. And, um, I can remember as we landed at the airport, there was a movie that was
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made called platoon that has a scene in it where they're walking across the tarmac and they see
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all the dead bodies laying on the grounds. And they looked at each other and said, what's that?
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And that same thing happened to me when I first got there and we landed and we're walking across
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the tarmac and we're looking, I saw all these bags filled with bodies. And I told, I asked them,
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I said, what, what in the world happened there? And they said, well, various reasons there died.
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But, but he said, but don't worry, you're going to be protected because we're going to do everything
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we can to keep you safe. Matter of fact, we're killing the jungle in order to give you an
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opportunity to be safe. And I said, well, how do you do that? He said, well, we spray something on
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it called agent orange, which is a herbicide that was a toxic herbicide that was designed to kill
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all vegetation. So when I went to Vietnam, I landed my, the compound that I was stationed at,
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I had to go out pretty much every night on the perimeter in the jungle and guard the perimeter.
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So they would spray during the day, all the vegetation and all the stuff in the trees would
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die and the shrubs wouldn't come back. And they were just killing off all that vegetation. And I
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remember asking my, my Sergeant, I said, Sarge, what, tell me what's, what's with this toxic stuff,
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you know? And he said, Oh, don't worry about it. It won't hurt humans. It won't affect humans. It's
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not a big deal. So you're going to be just fine. Don't worry about it. So we would literally go out
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on maneuvers and we would go out to check the areas to make sure the areas were safe, to rescue
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people in little villages, if they were going to be overrun by the communists. And we would get them
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on trucks and haul them out. Well, while all that's going on, this spraying is going on constantly,
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giant planes flying over. If you've ever seen crop dusting in the old way of, it was like that,
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only they were much bigger and higher in the sky and putting out massive amounts of Agent Orange's
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herbicide. Well, anyways, so literally we're, we're digesting it because, you know, when you're out
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in the, in the jungle and you're having something to eat, you're using your hands, the same hands
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that you use to push the vegetation away that was sprayed with Agent Orange, it was on your hands.
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You didn't have a place to wash them and you would eat the food. And so you were actually digesting
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that, that stuff. But then they said, oh, it's no problem, whatever. So then I came home from
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Vietnam in 1968, in October of 68 is when I, it's actually when I got out, I came home in March of
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68 was when I left Vietnam. When I got back, we started hearing reports that maybe that Agent
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Orange wasn't very good. Maybe there was a problem with it. Cause now lab rats and stuff are being
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killed. Well, they knew that for years. And then in 1969, only a few months after I came back,
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they stopped spraying Agent Orange. And so they just told people, we're not going to use it anymore.
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We find that it could cause problems. And, but for those of you who got sprayed, don't worry about
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it. You're all fine. So nothing, I never got treated. I was never told anything about it.
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And so I went through my life thinking I'm just fine. Everything's great for about 40 years.
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And then all of a sudden at about 40 to 45 years, I started developing something called cancer.
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And I had my first battle with cancer in 2001. And, and I lost my right kidney to it. And the
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doctors said it was caused from Agent Orange was caused the cause of that cancer. So I lost a right
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kidney to that. They pulled that kidney out, patched me all up and I just needed God to heal
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me so it wouldn't spread. And it, and God did. And I, a miracle took place in my life and I was
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perfectly healthy. When the matter of just a few days after the surgery, the treatments all stopped.
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There was absolutely nothing going on. And I thought, well, okay, well that's fine. I went
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through life. Everything's fine. Well, then another, approximately 15 years went by after that. And all
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of a sudden I had a physical at the Mayo Clinic and the Mayo Clinic saw me and said, your blood
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work, there's something wrong with it. And it doesn't look good. And they told me that they'd
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do further testing. And they said, well, we, we know for a fact now that you, you do have something
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like leukemia and it was multiple myeloma bone marrow cancer. And he said, it's very severe.
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It's extremely severe. This is, this is a terrible case and you've been suffering with this for years
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and there's no doubt in our mind that it was caused by Agent Orange. There's no question about it.
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And the VA, I mean, the Mayo Clinic even told me, go to the VA and ask for them to help you with
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this because it's going to be brutal. It's going to be expensive. And they looked at me and they
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said, you may only have six months to live. You're, you're in very serious shape. And when he said
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that, now I'm a believer now I'm, you know, when I was in Vietnam, I wasn't, but when I came back
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and became a Christian, when I was 25, when he said, you may only have six months to live,
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this is a very severe case. I said, so you, you're trying to scare me with heaven.
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And he, he looked at me and he said, wow, you really believe that? He said, I've never heard
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anybody ever make a statement like that. When you give them this kind of a announcement. And I said,
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well, I'm not afraid of dying certainly. So the worst that can ever happen to me is heaven. And
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that's pretty good. So that was the attitude we had. And we got treatment for it. And instead of me
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being dead in six months in about eight months time, uh, they couldn't find any sign of, uh,
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of cancer anymore. But I went on taking, uh, uh, chemotherapy treatments for eight years
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to be sure that's because that stuff, that agent orange gets in your system and it stays in your
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system the rest of your life. And they're even saying that to some people, the agent orange now,
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if you had children after you came back from Vietnam or exposed to agent orange, you had
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children. There's a chance that your children may catch something. So we had one child before I went
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to Vietnam and then we had another child when I came back. So our second child, I'm making sure
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that that she understands that get your blood checked from time to time, make sure that you're
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doing okay. Uh, and, um, I just thank the Lord. I mean, I'm alive. I, I was told six months and
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now he was, not only did I survive, but God intervened in a very special way. And I didn't
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even have to have what they call a stem cell transplant, which is pretty common when you have
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a leukemia or a bone marrow cancer, multiple myeloma that you have to have a, um, you just
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absolutely, you just have to have a stem cell transplant. And I said, well, let me ask you a
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question. If the transplant is successful, what results are we supposed to see? He said, well,
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you'll have to get zero readings in your multiple myeloma tests for you through your blood.
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And he said, and by the way, it's easy to follow this cancer because it's in the blood. And I said,
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you just said something very powerful because yes, it's in the blood. It's in the blood of Jesus
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is how I'm going to be healed. And, and I had a wonderful testimony over at Mayo, you know,
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when I had doctors and people talking to me, but he basically said that, you know, that it's,
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it's in the blood, it's easy to find. Uh, and he said, but, um, uh, you know, you're still going
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to have the stem cell transplant. And so I started praying. We started trusting, believing and said,
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we're going to get a miracle here. And I said, I'm believing for a miracle doctor. And he said,
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well, that's nice. And he passed me on the shoulder and says, that's great. Cause the doctors are
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people of science. Many of them don't believe in miracles, but in a matter of just months,
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eight months, uh, he looked at me and he said, uh, your, um, readings are unbelievable. And he said,
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matter of fact, you already have the same results as you had a stem cell transplant. So therefore
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you don't need to have a stem cell transplant. And I thank Lord only God's glory. I never had
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to have the stem cell transplant. A miracle took place. When the doctor looked at that,
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I said, doctor, how can you describe what happened to me? We know it was agent orange cause. We know
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that we know it was cancer and it's a killer. And to this day, they still don't have a cure for it.
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And so I said, so let me ask you a question. I only have one kidney. Cause I lost my first kidney
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to cancer caused by agent orange. And I had one left and you're trying to burn me on the inside
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out with chemo. Uh, why is it my kidney? One kidney that's left is functioning so well and doing so
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well. And he said, this is a doctor that told me at first he was doubtful. He said, well,
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there's only really one word to describe what just happened to you. He said, it's a miracle.
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And he took his pen and he wrote across the file and wrote the word. This is a miracle. And, uh,
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he said, there's no scientific reason that what happened to you that has happened to you and
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you're, and you're healed. And he said, and the fact that you don't, that you didn't have a, um,
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um, uh, you didn't have a cancer any longer is just a miracle. Wow. That's amazing. Pastor David.
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Wow. Well, you know, I thought my agent orange situation, uh, okay, it's over and it's done.
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And then all of a sudden it hit me. No, it's not done. There's a lot of people out there. So
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I did some research and I discovered there are 800,000 U S military veterans living up in the,
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in America today who were exposed to agent orange and have a strong possibility of coming down with
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some type of disease of various types of diseases. And so I started researching to find out how to
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help these people went to the VA. I've written two books on it and both of them are on Amazon.
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One has to do with Vietnam, a young man's story. The other one is Vietnam and PTSD and agent orange.
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And those books were designed to get help into the hands of veterans who are going through difficult
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times. And I have quite frankly met with hundreds of individual veterans who are suffering from
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various diseases and things that they couldn't understand where it was coming from. We found
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out that they were exposed to agent orange. They went to the military, they went to the VA,
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and they're now getting treatment. Some of them are on a hundred percent disability and are,
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their finances are being taken care of. Others are, have lesser disabilities, but nonetheless,
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many of them are suffering today, walking around with an agent orange exposure disease. And the
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military is doing a lot to improve the service and improve what's going on. But quite frankly,
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there's an awful lot of people out there who probably will come down with various types of
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cancers and other diseases based upon their exposure to agent orange.
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So pastor David, I love how you have faith for miracles and it's not just because of the
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miracles that have happened in your life, which those are, that's incredible stories. And we want
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to go deeper into that, but now you're seeing faith for other people's miracles and people's
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faith is being built. We're all given a measure of faith. How did you grow and cultivate this faith
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in your life to see these, these miracles? Well, John, I've got to go all the way back to when I
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first became a Christian. When we first found Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior, I remember
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went to a Billy Graham crusade and he asked everybody just as I am down on the field. I went,
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someone prayed for me and I gave my life to Christ and everything changed my perspective of
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Christians or whatever. So I went to church and I went to an assembly of God church where they
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believed in healing and they believed in miracles. And I thought, well, that's, that's okay for some,
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but I don't know about that. So I was there in the church service and I'm brand new Christian,
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25 years of age and my wife's with me. And so the pastor said, we're going to have prayer for this
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little boy up here. And he is, he has a need, he didn't tell her what it was. And we just want to
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pray cause he's facing surgery. And so I, so I said, well, I didn't say anything. I'm in the church.
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There's a group of us, maybe a hundred people in the church. And so then he said, could you all come
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down there? Well, that was unusual for me. So I walked down front and I saw the dad standing there
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with this little four year old boy in his arms. And the pastor just started praying. He didn't say
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what it was. He just simply says, well, pray that the surgery will go well and whatever. And as I
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closed my eyes and I started praying and I said, heavenly father, I just pray that you will heal
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this little boy. And, and as I closed my eyes, the Lord showed me a picture of this little boy's
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kidney and he had two kidneys. One healthiest can be the other one was diseased and there was no
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blood flowing through it. And, and the Holy spirit told me that's the kidney they're going to have
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to remove unless you pray and have faith to believe that he can be healed. So I started
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praying father in Jesus name. I prayed you'll heal him and restore him. I didn't know a lot of
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the classy prayer statements because I was a new Christian and I didn't even know what it meant when
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you said the blood of Jesus, you know, just brand new Christian. And I prayed and I said, Lord,
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would that blood flow through this little boy's body and heal him and the Lord show me this little
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kid's kidney open up just in my mind's eye. I saw this kidney open up and blood flowing through it
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and it grew and it went to almost the same size as the other one. Cause you know, kidneys, one's a
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little bigger than the other one. So it got to be just what's supposed to be. And it was healed.
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And so then the pastor was through praying and he, he dismissed the service. So I was kind of
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a little bit in shock, went over the pastor and said, pastor, could you have a second? This is
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new to me. I don't, this has happened to all Christians. So, you know, when, when you, when
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you're having faith to believe, and he said, well, what happened? And I told him, he says, oh my,
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oh my, he says, um, that little boy was going in to have his kidney removed. I said, oh, well,
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he doesn't need to now because it's been healed. And he says, well, that's nice. And I appreciate
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what you said. And he's a really great pastor, really a great man. But he said, you know, we
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have to wait and see now how God acts. I said, well, pastor, I'm just telling you it's done.
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And that, that little boy's, that's kidney is completely healed and restored. You watch. He
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said, well, we'll find out. Cause I was at a midweek service on a Wednesday and he said, Sunday,
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uh, we'll, uh, we'll report. Well, he said, but the little boy probably won't be here because he'll
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have surgery. So anyway, so Sunday comes around and the pastor calls up the man and the little
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boy, and he brings the little boy up front and he asked the father, he says, well, what took place?
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And he said, I don't, we don't really know for sure, but God healed him. And when they went into
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do surgery, the doctor said, wait a minute, wait a minute, something's happened. And his kidney was
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completely normal and had been restored. And he didn't need the surgery. There was absolutely no
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need for the surgery. And the pastor looked down at me in the church and I'm, I'm looking at him
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like, well, I, that's what I told you. You know, when you, when you become a new Christian, you
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want to save everybody in the world. You want everybody to know Jesus Christ. You want to pray
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for everybody. You want everybody to be healed. We have this birth of faith because now we've
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received Christ. We don't receive Christ because of our faith. We received Christ because of God's
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grace. But, but by, by that grace, we then receive a measure of faith. And that measure of faith gets
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us started. And, and the beautiful thing about faith is, is that Jesus talks about great, you
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have great faith. I've never seen such great faith in all of Israel to one person. Then another one,
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he says, you have no faith, you know, you have absolutely no faith whatsoever. And, and oh,
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ye of little faith. I mean, you know, those types of things are said. And so it really inspired me.
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I started reading the word of God about, well, then if there's little faith and there's great
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faith, then there must be medium faith and there must be in between faith. And so there must be
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levels of faith. And there really is, there really are levels of faith. There's confidence
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and trust in God. So then after that experience took place, I thought, I asked the pastor, can I,
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can I pray for other people? It would it be okay? And he said, yeah, that would be great, you know.
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And so I, I remember we had another service and a lady came up front and she was a probably a 50ish,
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and I'm a 25 year old, so she was in their fifties. I thought, you know, she was ancient.
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Now that I'm in my seventies, I don't believe that way anymore. But nonetheless, you know,
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this lady is standing there and I said, can I pray for you? And she says, yeah, I've got,
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I just need to be prayed for. And I said, well, let me, let me just pray for what the Holy Spirit
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put on my heart. You've got diabetes. And he's, she said, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, it's killing me.
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And she said, I've been suffering with it all my life. And I said, well, then let's just believe
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that God's going to heal that, you know? And so she said, how did you know? I said, well, I didn't
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know, but somehow I didn't know to explain to her that the Holy Spirit is the one that impressed me
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and gave me that the gift, you know, to understand what that was. I just simply said, you see, you
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only have to have to have faith. You only have to have all this training and education and stuff.
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The thief on the cross had no training. He didn't go to, he didn't go to Bible classes.
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He didn't tithe, you know, he just looked at Jesus in faith and said, you're an innocent man.
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I believe in you. And Jesus said, today you'll be with me in paradise. So we can approach faith,
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like the thief on the cross did. He had faith to believe in Jesus when he was hanging on a cross.
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If he did that and he was just an ordinary person, we can have faith no matter what we go through.
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So I prayed with this lady and I said, I really think you need to get a check. She says, yeah.
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I said, but I'm telling you, God healed you. There's no doubt in my mind. The Holy Spirit
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has told me that your diabetes has been healed. And she said, well, you know, diabetes isn't one
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of those things that gets healed. I said, well, I don't believe that. I said, because the Bible says,
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you know, that you take something to Jesus, you know, seeking first the kingdom of God and his
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righteousness, and then all these things shall be added unto you. Let's believe for that for you.
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Anyways, she went, I didn't see her for several days and she came back on another day. We met,
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she ran up to me and she said, she said, David, David, David, she said, the doctor said,
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my diabetes is completely gone and cured and healed. It's gone. And I said, I said, he's,
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and he said, that just doesn't happen. I said, no, it does happen because it did happen. And it
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happened to you. And I was very blessed at that time. I started reading an evangelist by the name
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of Smith Wigglesworth. Now Smith Wigglesworth is known as the man of faith. He wrote a lot of books
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on faith. So I got everything that he wrote and I read every bit of it. And I just soaked it up.
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And I was so excited about his life and what he was doing. And then the faith that that man had,
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and what was interesting, he died in 1946. I was born in 1946. And I said, Lord, did you do an
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impartation of faith from him that I get to receive that now? And the Holy Spirit basically
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confirmed that, yeah, you're going to pray for people and they're going to, you're going to see
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miracles. So the Lord just kept showing me miracle after miracle. A later time, there were many times
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where people were healed of various things that we prayed for. And it was always the healing power,
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Lord Jesus Christ, because Jesus is the healer, not me. And, but, but when I prayed for those people,
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it started to build my faith. And when I saw other people getting healed and I started watching
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people like old Roberts on TV and, and, and his, the way he prayed and whatever. And I thought,
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well, I don't know how real that is. And then I got to know him, got to meet him. I got to play golf
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with him later on. And, and I told him how his life impacted my life when it came to faith. And
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he was a great guy. He was a really wonderful man and what an honor it was to be with him. Well,
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anyway, so moving along with these subjects of how healing miracles take place, we were
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pastoring a church years later and a man in our church came up to me and said, I'm going in for
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surgery to have my hip replaced. And he said, it's completely shot. It's gone. And they have to tear
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it, take it out and remove it and put a new hip in. And I said, well, do you believe that Jesus
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can heal you? And he says, well, I hope so. And I said, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. I don't
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want to pray if you say, I hope so. I want to pray if you believe, yes, I believe he can and he will
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and he'll heal me, not just everybody else, not that he just heals, but he'll heal me because it's
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easier to pray for somebody else's healing many times than it is for our own. I think people agree
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with that. So anyways, they went to the hospital. They asked me to come over and I prayed or I
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annoyed him with oil, prayed like we normally do. Father, we pray for a creative miracle. We believe
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that you made this body, take it back to the condition it was the way you made it. And that
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that hip will be completely restored and healed in Jesus name. Well, then I left the hospital. They
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rolled him into the surgery. And when I prayed for the doctor's hands, the doctor came into the room
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and I said, doctor, before you do surgery on him, could I pray over your hands? And he said,
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yeah, I guess. And he kind of puts his hands out and he's kind of like acting like this is weird.
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I said, no, I just want to pray for your hands. I'm not going to touch you. I just want to pray
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for your hands. I prayed that his hands would be used to perform a miracle for the power of Jesus
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and that and that there'd be complete healing. And this doctor said, wow, thank you. That was
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wonderful. So anyways, I went back to the to the church. I got a call in about an hour and the
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family saying, you got to get back here, pastor. You got to get back. I said, why is everything's
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okay, right? And they said, yeah, well, yeah, more than okay. So I drove back to the hospital and
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there and the doctor's waiting for me and the family's waiting for me. And the man with the
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surgery is in bed. The doctor looked at me and he says, what did you do? And I said, I didn't do
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anything. I just prayed and Jesus healed him. Right. And he said, well, here's the x-ray before
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he went in and he and of course I can't read x-rays and his his hip was destroyed. Here's the
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x-ray what it looks like today. He said his his hip has completely regenerated itself and healed
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and he didn't need surgery. He said, I only feel bad that I opened him up to to open him up for the
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surgery and that that incision has to heal now. He said, but he is completely healed. His hip has
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been totally restored and completely healed. And I just believe that God wants to do that.
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And we got to remember that God's in the same healing business he was then. I've had the healing
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miracles in my body. I've had in my own body, but it's over time. I've seen so many people
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who needed healing. And now today we pray with people for with cancers and we've had people who
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who's a fella fell off of a horse and his his he had a brain hemorrhage and they said he had never
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walk again. He'd never speak again. He'd never whatever. So we went down and anointed him with
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oil prayed over him. And within a matter of days, he's walking in the hospital. Now he's back home
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and he's talking. He's walking. He's about 98% recovered from that thing. And the doctors like
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we didn't do anything. We just there was nothing to do, you know, except wait for the brain,
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the swelling to go down. Well, the swelling went down instantly and he was able to start
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functioning in his normal functions. And we just had one after another and after another of how
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God has touched one that was happening. I was doing my podcast on charisma and, you know,
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and I thought the Lord saying you need to write about this. You need to let other people know.
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So I did a series called Faith for Miracles. And and so I wanted people to understand that
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miracles are still alive and well today. Jesus is still the same yesterday, today and forever.
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And so therefore we've got to believe in miracles and claim them and walk in them and receive them.
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And so I completed a book. I just released it. It's on Amazon right now. And it's a book entitled
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Faith for Miracles, which is kind of comical. When I hired the editor, who was a Christian, but not
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one that believed a whole lot in miracles at first, she looked at the title and she said,
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um, I hate to tell you, but your title is grammatically incorrect. You can't say faith
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for miracles. You have to say faith in miracles. And I said, well, no, I can't say faith in miracles
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because my faith is not in the miracle. My faith is in the miracle worker, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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And she said, oh my goodness, you're right. And she had a revelation. And through editing this now,
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she has experienced a new faith and a trust in God for miracles. But, but I just believe that
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with quality Christian living, that's what our podcast is. This is one aspect of it,
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to have faith in miracles and believe for them and pray for even people that everybody else gives up
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on, never give up on, never give up on them. I always pray the guy in the wheelchair many times
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gets walked by and not prayed for. And I don't see people getting out of wheelchairs every time I go
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by them, but I do see people who were in wheelchairs or are no longer in them now. And thank God for
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those miracles. Yeah. So pastor David, I'm reminded of the story in the Bible where there's this man
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that came to Jesus and said, Lord, I believe help my unbelief. And I kind of relate to him a lot
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because I believe, but I know that I don't believe enough. I have faith, but I feel like I need to
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have more faith. How do you help people grow in their faith in practical ways? Well, what works
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for me is always using the word of God in the scriptures to strengthen my faith, because I
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remember the story of the, of the blind man and Jesus, remember he spit in the ground and made
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the mud and he put it in the guy's eyes and, and told them, you know, to wash it and whatever. And
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the guy's vision came and, and the people around Jesus and this man said, well, you know, what was
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the reason he was blind? Was he blind because of sin in his life or blind because his parents had
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sin? And Jesus said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was blind for another reason. He was blind so
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that basically he's saying, so I could do a miracle and that God will receive all the glory. And that's
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stuck in me. See, that's a scripture and we got to find scriptures that speak to us, that we claim
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that promise. Matter of fact, that story of that man mixing up the mud, I've used that for eight
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solid months going in and getting treatments for chemotherapy. When I would go in and the doctor
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would say, check my weight and we're going to go in and mix up a batch of chemotherapy for you based
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on your weight and your blood pressure and all that kind of stuff. And I'd say, great, have you
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ever heard the story about the miracle that took place because the mud was being mixed? That story
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now moved into my life and I claimed the mud, the chemotherapy that cleansed me and healed me of
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multi myeloma bone marrow cancer. So therefore, if you answer how do you get more faith, you got to
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find the scriptures that speak to you, the ones that really, really hit the nail on the head and
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you go in, that's good. I like that. And you claim that and you operate in that and see exactly what
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that scripture is telling you. The man says, you know, I need more faith. So that's he was just
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being honest. And I think we need to start off just like he did. Be honest, say, God, I need more
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faith. Can you give me more faith? He will direct you to his word. The Holy Spirit will direct you
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to his word. And then I tell people to find people who believe in healings or have had great
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healings and listen to them and listen to their stories to get a good book that tells them that
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tells them how to pray and how to seek the face of God and to believe and get that unbelief aside
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and then and start claiming that you can have greater faith and see miracles. Jesus basically,
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you know, talked about great faith and great miracles because the people just simply believed
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faith is is easy and yet people make it hard. You know, you're sitting on a chair and I'm sitting
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sitting I'm sitting on a stool right now. It's about 24 inches off the ground. I have faith
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in the stool, right? It means that well, that doesn't count. Yes, it does count. That's a tiny,
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tiny piece of faith. You get in an airplane and you have faith that it's going to take you to where
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you want to go without crashing on the ground, right? And people, some people won't fly planes.
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Well, that's that's their business. But when we whatever we do, we got to start finding pieces of
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faith that we have and start believing. I've got more faith than I thought I had. You know,
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people in church come up to me and say, well, pastor, every time you get sick or something,
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you get a great healing. And so therefore you've got great faith and you got great greater faith.
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I got no, no, no, don't tell me about having a me greater faith. I just want you to know that I
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just want to believe as soon as there's a problem, I'm not going to let my circumstances rob me from
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my opportunity to receive what I need from God. Paul said I learned to be content in everything,
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right? Good, bad, hungry, you know, full, rich, poor, whatever it was. He said I didn't allow my
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circumstances to rob me. So another tip about having greater faith is to don't allow what
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you're going through to rob you of your faith. Believe your faith, claim your faith. And when
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you don't see the answer right away, that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. You don't feel
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defeated. You don't feel down because you didn't get the immediate answer like that. I've had people
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get answers to prayer sometimes a year or two or three years after I've prayed for them. And I
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believe that we don't ever let up. We don't ever give up. We stay focused. We believe and we find
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that bunch of scriptures, maybe they're half a dozen or more that speak to us that build our faith
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and get around positive people who believe in miracles. Amen. And I believe that will help in
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each and every one of us. Yeah. I'm going to ask you to pray in just a little bit. But before we do
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that, I know that your message about faith for miracles is not limited to just healing.
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Right. Can you tell me some stories and build our faith before you pray for people at the end of
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this? Could you tell us some stories of other types of miracles that you've seen God do
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that you've had that faith for? Well, when we started our church, we had a little group of
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people, about 20 of us, we rented a little motel conference room and paid a hundred bucks so we
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could have it for three hours. And I thought, well, Lord, we've got to prepare for something
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greater than this because you didn't have me leave my business and sell my business and go so I could
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have 20 people meet in a motel conference room for the rest of my life. So you've got something
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greater planned. And so therefore we started asking God to show us exactly what he wants us to do.
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Well, we got to where we had maybe, you know, maybe a hundred people was coming after several
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months. And but all of a sudden I thought, well, we've got if you got a hundred people, it's like
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the it's like the the plant that you put in a jar that's this big and you put a plant in there and
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it grows it to be a little plant this big. Right. Or you take the plant outside and you put it on
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the garden and it turns out to be a 10 foot wide, 15 foot, you know, bush. It's where we plant our
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seed for it to grow depends on whether it's going to grow or not. And so I prayed, I said, Lord,
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what do I need for this church to be at least a thousand people? And so the Holy Spirit said,
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you're going to have to rent a building. I went to the air park, rented a warehouse, 20,000 square
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feet with no income, small congregation, twenty thousand dollars a month for five year lease. I
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signed, I said, God, this is your church. So therefore this is your obligation. So by faith,
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we're believing you're going to supply it. The man that owned it was not a Christian. And yet he,
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we received a favor from him to to even lease the building because we were brand new church,
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didn't have any track record. That in itself was a miracle. The fact that we even got the building.
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Then on top of that, he wasn't even a Christian. He gave us three hundred thousand dollars worth
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of improvements on the building because he felt because it was a church, he wanted to make it
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nice. He, you know, he did that. So then we started the church and it just exploded and grew.
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And then he and his wife came to church the first Sunday and he got saved. And so, I mean,
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and the church exploded within a year. We were running, you know, eight hundred to a thousand
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people in church and within two years, we're running two thousand people at three different
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locations. Three locations. And I had none of that planned. God made it happen. So we needed
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to build our church. We needed money. I didn't have any. I went to the bank to borrow and I said,
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I need seven million dollars. And they said, well, that's nice. You know, and I said, you're
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going to have to talk to somebody and convince them. I went down the hallway to meet who the
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the big shot loan guy was. And they said, if you can convince him the loan, you're the money. Fine.
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But he's the only he's the final decision. I walked into the room and I looked at him and I said,
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Lanny, what are you doing here? God had planted a man in that office years before he he didn't
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even know I was a pastor. He said, you're pastoring. How long you been doing that? I said
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about three and a half, four years. He said, I saw your balances, your you guys, your incomes,
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you know, three, four hundred thousand dollars a month coming in here. This is incredible. What's
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happening? And I told him and I said, I need to borrow seven million dollars to build the church.
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We own the land and I won't go through that. But it was a miracle. I wound up buying land with no
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money. Wound up with thirty three acres, about thirty three acres with no money turned around
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and sold off seven of it. And that seven paid off the rest of the twenty six acres. We wound up with
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twenty six acres free and clear. And and so we're sitting there with no money. And now we own twenty
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six acres in North Scottsdale to build our church, which was worth a couple of million dollars.
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And we didn't have to come up with any money at all to do the deal. God made it happen where one
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person did one thing, another, but whatever it got orchestrated. Then we got our seven million
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dollar loan from him and we built this church. And so seven years, God's perfect number, seven
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years after we started the church, we wound up building a twelve million dollar church facility
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that seats eleven hundred people. And to God be the glory that that is a financial breakthrough
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and a financial miracle that we just had to believe God for it. Trust him for it, not do stupid
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things, not get myself in trouble, but take risk. In business, there's something called risk versus
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reward. If you take a big risk, you probably have a greater chance for a bigger reward. And I believe
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in that. And in churches, we've got to have to do the same thing. We've got to believe that our risk
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is really faith. And and we can believe for that and we can believe to be out of debt. We can believe
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to be debt free. We can believe to get our finances in order. We can believe that we can become a tither
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just by changing the things that you're doing in your life to become a tither. Once you do that,
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then you tie. Then God is responsible for your finances. When you start giving to him first,
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he's in charge of your finances. And then all of a sudden, the finances start coming forward. So
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to God be the glory in all those areas. And we've got to also believe that God can restore
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marriages. Let me give you a real fast one on a very, this is great. This is instilling my faith,
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Pastor David. This is wonderful. I'm sitting there one Saturday in church. It's a Saturday morning.
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I'm by myself. I'm getting, getting my notes and stuff ready, kind of organizing, getting ready.
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And all of a sudden the Holy Spirit says, call the Smith family. That's not their name, but I'm going
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to just say the Smith family. And I went, okay, I'll call them. And I'm striving to do my, now.
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And I'm going, now? I'm going, Lord, I've got this sermon I'm putting together for tomorrow. I've
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got to get ready or whatever. I'm going to be here all day. And the Holy Spirit basically telling me,
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call them now. So I put down my stuff, you know, and I get the phone out and back in the old days,
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you know, I had an actual phone that I, and so I picked it up. I said, hi, this is Pastor Dave
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at the Green City Church in Scottsdale. And he says, he starts laughing. And so I thought, Lord,
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is this what you're doing? You want to make fun of me? You know, you're, this man's laughing at me
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because I called him and I said, well, his name was Gary. I said, Gary, why are you laughing? I'm
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sorry, but I don't understand. He said, Pastor, no, no, no, no, it's not you. He said, 10 seconds ago,
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my daughter said, dad, we should never go to that church because it's a big church. They got a
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thousand people going and that pastor's never going to know, even know who you are. He'll never talk
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to us. He'll never call us. He has no way, he says, and she said, and so therefore I don't think we
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need to go to that church. And as soon as she said that, the phone rang and I picked it up and it's
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you. And he, that little girl, matter of fact, that little girl I saw last weekend when I went to see
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one of my grandkids and she came over to me, she says, you remember me? I said, well, sure I do.
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It was her dad. She was the little girl that was saying that pastor will never call you. So God
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performed a miracle to wake me up, to have me call at that moment, not an hour later, not 10 minutes
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later, the Holy Spirit was telling me. So if you want to see your miracles happen when the Holy
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Spirit speaks to us, let's do something and let's do it right now. So anyways, I could go on with
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those, but that's, please do. This is great. I love this. I mean, it's, it, your faith comes by
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hearing and hearing the word of God. And part of that is also the testimonies, you know, it's the
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testimony of Jesus, uh, as we read through the scriptures, but as we see how God works today,
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it builds our faith for today. You know, it's not just this happened with the apostles back in that
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day, but what is happening with pastor David today? What is happening in our world today that we see
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God's, we see God's hand at work and our faith is being built. And just you telling these stories
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is building my faith and building everybody's faith. That's, that's watching. We're going to
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get a couple more stories before you pray. Cause I gotta get, I gotta get a couple more, but I just
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want to encourage everybody that's watching, make sure you put in the comments. If you're believing
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for a healing, put in the word healing. If you're believing for a financial miracle, put in the word
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financial miracle or any other type of miracle. We want to believe with you. And so we'll be
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looking through the comments and replying to that. But pastor David, please tell us some more stories.
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This is so good. Well, I'll give you, I'll give you one that's very, very, very special to me. And
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one day I was on a, at church and I was in my office and a lady came in and wanted to talk with
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me. She said, pastor, my, my secretary was right there. So she came in with her and sat down with
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me and she said, my, my dad is near death and he's 93 years old and he's going to die and he's an
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atheist. And I said, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I said, well, let me go pray for him and we'll
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just pray that he'll receive Jesus Christ as a savior. He said, I'm so sorry to hear that.
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And she said, no, no, no, you don't understand. You don't understand. He's been an atheist for
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about 70 some years of his life. And his wife, my mama has been the same thing. They've been
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atheists and the whole family, they're all atheists and they all hate God. And there's a couple of
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them, I guess that are agnostic, but, but basically they hate God period. And they hate pastors.
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And I said, well, well then I, I guess I just need to call him and go over there and pray for him.
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And she said, well, if you do. And I said, well, wait a minute, just a second, let's just believe
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that God's going to give me favor. And that when I call, he'll receive that call. And she said,
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well, it's not going to happen. I said, well, that's according to your faith, but according
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to my faith, God's going to let me have a chance. So I said, I'm not going to pray with you. I'm
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just going to believe. So I picked up the phone and I dialed the hospital. Now my flesh said,
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when he answers, don't tell him you're a pastor because you know, that's, uh, he's going to hang
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up or cuss you out or something. Right. And I, but the spirit said, don't you dare wimp out on me.
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You know, and the Holy spirit telling them. I said, hi. And it, and I forget his name and save
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his Tom. And I said, hi, Tom, this is pastor David friend down at the dream church, you know, and
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I'd like to come over to your hospital and pray for you. I just believe that God wants to touch
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you and heal you and silence. And this daughter's looking across the desk from me sitting there.
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She's like this, you know, she's got her and I said, and he says, that would be great.
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And I had them on speaker and I said, okay, I'll be right there. And I hung up and I looked at her.
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She said, that, that was my dad. I said, yeah, God just performed the breakthrough miracle. We
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needed for him to receive his healing and Jesus as his Lord and savior. And she said, well, you
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think so. And I said, no, no, no, I know. So I'm that that just is not coincidence. So off, I went
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to the hospital, she'd gotten her car went, I met her at the hospital. We went into the room and
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here's a room with this man sitting there and he's, he's dying of cancer. He's got a horrendous tumor
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on his eye. That's outside. It, it was one of the awful things I think I've seen. And he's, you know,
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93 years old, weak as can be sitting on the edge of his bed, just leaning down. I walked into the
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room and it was filled. I felt like Satan had a whole bunch of his demons everywhere in that room.
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And, and I said, I'm pastor Dave from the church. I just called you and I want to pray for you to
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and I want to pray for you to be healed and give your life to Jesus. And he looked at me, he went,
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Oh, he could barely speak. I mean, just mutter and instantly there was a spiritual war taking
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place in that hospital room. These people were looking at me and growling at me and crossed arms
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and I mean, just, you know, get out of here. And, and his daughter was with me and she said, well,
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just let the pastor speak. And so, you know, how about a half a dozen people in the room,
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they're waiting for him to die. You know? And so I said, all right, well, let's pray. And I want
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you to receive Jesus and I want you to be healed. And I said, the greatest healing though, where we
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see Jesus Christ, your Lord and savior is spend eternity in heaven. And I went through my typical
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thing and I just prayed for him. And I said, so I'm just looking at him now. I got ignore, I got,
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faith requires to ignore the circumstances, everything that's around us, right? And I'm
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looking at him in the eyes and it's really hard because there was a terrible distraction right
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here, but I'm sitting there trying to find this tiny little isolate to look him in the eyes. And
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I catch his look. And I said, just repeat after me. I know you can't talk well, but just repeat
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these. And I led him in the sinner's prayer. And I said, now in Jesus name, I pray. Amen. Did you
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give your life to Jesus Christ today? Let me know. He went just like that. And the room was angry.
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I mean, they were angry, you know? And so I said, I looked at him and I says, well, you know, you're
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going to, you're going to be in heaven. I said, I prayed for your physical healing, but more
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importantly, your spiritual healing, you're going to be in heaven now and I'll see you someday in
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heaven. And he went, you know, and he, that's all he could do. That was about all he could do.
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So I left the room and so he died three days later. His wife came to church right after he died
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to our church, hadn't been in a church in 70 some years, to tell me that he changed, that he was at
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such peace, was in complete comfort for those last couple of days before he passed away. And she says,
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I need to know what he received. I preached the message, gave an altar call, and there she's
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sitting with her daughter and right in that church, she's raising her hand and, and receiving Jesus
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Christ as her Lord and savior. That's just a miracle from God to have a breakthrough to believe
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on the outside. We can just simply say, well, there's no chance that's going to happen. You'd
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take a miracle for that to happen. Yeah, it would take a miracle. And it wasn't a miracle. The fact
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that he even allowed me to talk to him was the breakthrough miracle that I got. God gave me
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favor when I needed favor. God protected me from all that evil and stuff in that room and to break
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through that, all that nasty stuff that was in that room for this man to surrender his heart to
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Jesus Christ and to receive Jesus as his Lord and savior. So we give God all the praise and glory for
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that one. And let me give you another one real quick. All right. All right. All right. I'm on this.
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Honestly, we could have a four hour podcast. I know we're not going to, but I got to tell you one
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that was so amazing. Another one that was so amazing where God intervened. I'm speaking these
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because there's a lot of people out there, I think they're listening in, who have unsafe family
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members and you might be giving up on them, but don't you ever dare, dare ever give up on someone.
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I prayed with my little sister for just until she was 44 years old. From the time she was 16 years old,
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she was a drug addict and she had major problems with alcoholism and drug addict, whoever, tried to
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pray with her, give her heart to Jesus with five, six, seven times, we had her emergency rooms,
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getting ready to die. And then finally she was 44 years old and I said, well, she's going to give
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her heart to Jesus this time. And off I went to the hospital and I went in the emergency room and
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I prayed with her and she opened up her eyes and we prayed. She was as clear as can be. And then she
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went back to sleep. And I thought, well, I think it took this time. I think, I think this is real.
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And so I brought my wife to the hospital the next day and I said, honey, my sister is here, Carol,
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and she gave her heart to Jesus. I believe this time it was real. And we walked in the room and
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she, Carol sitting up in bed, clear as can be, eyes are clear, medication, almost nothing. The
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nurses are going, she is just amazingly recovering from this. And she's sitting there with a big
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smile on her face. And we walk in the room and my wife says to her, well, Carol, did you give your
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life to Jesus? And Carol's sitting, big smile on her face. She says, Jesus came into my room last
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night and I gave him my heart. I received him as my Lord and Savior and he has changed me. I'm not
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hurting, I'm not in pain, I don't have any problems, just completely restored. But to 44, from 16 years
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of age, you know, we prayed for her. I got saved when I was 25, that would have made her about 27.
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So from 27 to 44, she just kept having all these drug problems and near deaths experiences and never
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gave up on her for her salvation. And at 44 years of age, she received Jesus Christ as Lord and
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Savior. Today she's 80. And if she was sitting right beside me, I'd say, Carol, what do you think
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about Jesus? She'd look at you and say, he's everything. He changed my life. And here she's
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physically just in terrible shape. But she's basically so spiritually alive in her relationship
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with Jesus. But that was an amazing miracle in my family. Another amazing one took place when I was,
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had a family member talking to me and they invited me to do the funeral for a person's mother who had
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died. And I said, oh, well, do you know if she was a believer? And they said, well, we're not sure.
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She's one of these people that believes in kind of a Hindu background, New Age Hindu background,
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where she just believed that, you know, there's the tree is a God and the grass is a God and
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animals are and tens of thousands of gods that they have. And they said, but we don't know, but
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all of her friends are anti-God and they don't want anything to do with Christians and all that.
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But she says, I went into her bedroom and I found a Bible that she bought like three months ago.
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And I started looking through it and, and I couldn't believe what I saw. And I, she gave me
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the Bible and I looked and I said, well, that's her handwriting. I said, she gave her heart to Jesus.
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This is her acceptance of Christ. And I said, this, and the Bible is like she'd owned it for,
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you know, for years. It was just, she'd gone through it and gone through it and right in
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her handwriting over there, Jesus is my savior. And oh, I'm so sorry, Lord, all those years I
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have my back turned against you. And I mean, just constant. And I said, she said, could you do the
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funeral? And I said, well, yeah, but will anybody come? And they said, oh yeah, because they don't
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know she's a Christian, that she gave her heart to Jesus. So we had a cemetery, went to a funeral
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home, about a hundred people showed up and I walked in and they all heard there was going to be a
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Christian pastor doing the service. They didn't like that one bit. Matter of fact, I walked in
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there and I said, hi, I'm pastor Dave. And they'd go like this and put their hand down beside and
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says, get, would you get this over with? You know, it was horrible. It was horrible. And it was,
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everybody hated me. I mean, it was, they wouldn't speak to me. They wouldn't look at me, whatever.
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So I went up front and with this Bible and I opened up this Bible. I said, by the way,
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this is what's your name's Bible. And I showed them the Bible and the daughter will confirm is
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that this is her, but yeah, I said, let me tell you what she wrote. And I started reading scriptures
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beside scriptures where she circled them, highlighted them and wrote on the side of it.
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This is what's changed my life. And Jesus is my healer and Jesus is my Lord and savior. And
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by the time I got through it, this, this mean crowd of a hundred people with like this and
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irritated, the hands started coming down, the faces started leaning in. They started getting
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tears in their eyes. And I said, and then the gal says, and I want all my friends to know Jesus
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Christ is their Lord and savior, because I want to see them in heaven. You know? And I said,
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this is, these are her words. And then the songs that she wanted, we played those.
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Then I did the altar call and I asked people to receive Christ. 90% of the people in that room
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lifted up their hand to pray to receive Jesus as Lord and savior. After the funeral,
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it was like a family, a family reunion. They just loved on each other. They come to me and hug me
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and grab me. Big old burly guys would grab me and say, I didn't know that she loved Jesus. I didn't
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know that, you know? And it was amazing miracle faith for believing for someone who was unsaved,
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who then received Jesus Christ. What a miracle situation that was to see and believe. But,
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but on the way to the miracle, we basically had a lot of circumstances that were Rob trying to
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Rob, trying to rob us from God's blessing. I had that with the elderly man. I had that with this
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lady who was a kind of the Hindu. I had that with the boy with the doctor and the surgery,
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the guy with the hip problem, all these had circumstances that made it look like, nah,
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it's not going to happen in my own life. I've had three major, major, uh, healings where I was
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basically sentenced to death and, uh, God intervened and, uh, and it's because of God's
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intervention and it's because of the healing power of Jesus that I can sit here and talk about these
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things today. Amen. Amen. Wow. My faith has definitely built over this conversation and
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it has grown. You know, we've talked about, uh, financial miracles. We've talked about healing
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miracles. We've talked about family faith miracles, salvation miracles. Pastor David,
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would you pray for the people that are watching that have put in the comments what it is that
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they're praying for, that they're believing for, that they need a miracle for? Would you just pray
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for them as the Holy Spirit leads you? Because I don't want to miss this opportunity to have you
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speak to them. And we know that the Holy Spirit connects us beyond time, beyond location,
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whether somebody is watching this for the very first time, they're watching it years down the
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road. God's word is true. He is faithful and he is forever. And so pastor David, would you please
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just share what the Lord has put on your heart to pray? All right, let's pray. Heavenly Father,
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we love you so much. We're so thankful, Father, for who you are, what you've done in our life.
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We're thankful for the word of God that gives us strength and builds our faith. We're thankful for
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the Holy Spirit who lives and dwells inside of us and encourages us. He's like, he's like having God
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inside of us, having a cheerleader, encouraging us to pray and to believe and to have faith and
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have trust in God. And so Father, Lord, we thank so much for that. And I pray for those who are
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listening in today, some may be people with great faith and they just are in agreement with me and
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they've experienced those same things. There'll be others that maybe have kind of a okay faith.
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They're kind of like, yeah, I believe sometimes, sometimes I question. Lord, there'll be some
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people that have very little faith and they have a very difficult time having faith. They believe
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that maybe their finances won't come through or that cold that they've got can't be healed or
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whatever it might be, Lord. Father, you love all of us the same, regardless of whether we have
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great gifts, whether we operate in those gifts, whether we have great faith, whether we lack faith,
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you have love for us. Because Father, it's not by faith that we're saved, it's by your grace.
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And when you give your grace to us and we receive Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior,
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Lord, then you give us that measure of faith. That's the beginning of this incredible walk with you.
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And I pray for those who are praying that they would continue to pray, did not lose focus, not
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lose direction to trust in the Lord with all their heart, lean not on their own understanding or
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circumstances and all their ways acknowledge you. And then you will guide their steps. You will
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direct their steps. And I pray for those Father who are anxious and have problems with anxiety,
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problems with anxiety, Father, that they'd be anxious for nothing but everything through prayer,
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petitions with thanksgiving. They'll make their requests made known to you. And the peace of God,
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Lord, that passes all understanding will guard their hearts and guard their minds in Christ Jesus.
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Father, I pray for an impartation, Father, the Holy Spirit would impart greater faith in all those
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who are listening. If they desire greater faith, they will receive it in Jesus' name. If they want
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to have stronger faith to believe, they'll receive it now in Jesus' name and that they'll pick up
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things they had quit praying about and bring it back up and pray about it again and believe it
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again and not give up on it and trust God for it. I believe it. And Father, we call forth miracles.
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We believe that we now have faith for miracles, that we have the faith to trust you and believe
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that you are able to do exceedingly abundantly above and beyond anything we can imagine or even
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think according to the power, that's your power, that operates inside of us now. We don't have to
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look for it. It's already there. Those who know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior have great power
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operating in them to have greater faith. Bless them and keep them, Father. May your face shine
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upon them. Be gracious unto them, Father, and bless them in all they do, I pray, in Jesus' name. Amen.
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Amen. Amen. Pastor David Friend, thank you so much for helping us have faith for miracles.
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And I'm grateful for your podcast, Equality Christian Living, which is on the Charisma Podcast
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Network. And thank you so much for praying for us. Those stories throughout this whole episode has
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been so building of our faith. It has really stirred up something in me. And I know it's
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going to stir up something in so many people that are watching and listening. Pastor David,
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thank you very much for being with us today. God bless you. Thank you. Take care now.