Unveiling Conspiracies: Prophetic Dreams Expose Corruption

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And what it's done is it's allowed compromise into this nation.

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And God is dealing with the roots of the compromise.

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So part of it is exposure, part of it is more dreams and more exposure prophetically.

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Part of it is God has to clean his house prophetically and in the church world.

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And then part of what's going to happen is as all of that comes out, there's going to

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be a call for repentance.

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I believe we're going to see some people who are, who probably really were compromised,

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who are going to lay out an example for just saying, this is how you repent.

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John Redenbo, it's great to have you back on Charisma News and to talk about what God

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is saying about the year 2024.

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You're somebody that I love talking to because you hear God through dreams and interpreting

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dreams just like Joseph and Daniel, these amazing men in the Bible that we look to where

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God not only is speaking, but he's also giving plans and actions and strategies.

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And so I just want to kind of set this up because this is a little bit different than

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some of the other ones I've been doing where people are normally prophetic voices that

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are kind of known where this is what they feel God's saying and they're saying that.

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But could you could just kind of explain a little bit to our audience before we get into

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it, how you gather this intel, how are you gathering these dreams, where are they coming

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from?

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And then also what is God saying about 2024?

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Wow.

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Well, it's always great to be back with you, John.

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Thanks for the invitation.

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And I'm super honored just to be even be thought of in the same sentence as Daniel and Joseph.

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Those were obviously heroes of scripture and had profound gifts, advisors to kings.

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And that's that's exactly kind of the vein that we feel called into is using dreams as

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intelligence and advising leaders, heads of state, national level leaders speaking into

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geopolitical decisions, as well as CEOs and, you know, leaders of other organizations or

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movements.

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And so, yeah, spiritual intelligence.

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We don't call it dream interpretation because dream interpretation is so much different

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than spiritual intelligence.

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It's a whole completely different mindset.

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It's a whole different, really a different set of tools, whereas some people might use

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like a dream dictionary or something in dream interpretation.

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Dream interpretation is like like an anecdote that you tell at a party versus a dossier

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that you get from an intelligence agent that really lets you know what's happening.

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And so, yeah, we got a heart for hearing from God in dreams and visions.

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We also look at prophecy.

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We see prophecy more as confirmation.

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We actually believe that the gold standard of spiritual intelligence is dreams.

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And the reason is, is because dreams are encrypted and people don't have any idea what they mean

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usually.

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And this is really interesting, particularly in the prophetic community, because prophets,

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they really value hearing the voice of God versus seeing the imagery of what we call

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the figurative language or the love language of God in their dreams.

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And so when they have a dream, they think it's kind of like, wow, it's sort of kind

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of literal and it's kind of self-explanatory.

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And God may be talking about a coin shortage in a dream and it actually has to do with

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Thomas Jefferson in the election of 1800.

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Like it's so far completely outside the realm of what people think.

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And so if we're kind of just trying to think our way through or look up a few things in

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a dream dictionary.

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And again, that's when we typically, right, that's when we don't really value intelligence

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is somebody's you want a quick answer.

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Hey, I had a dream about this.

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And somebody says, oh, it's probably just a demonic dream.

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Oh, it just means this.

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And they're like, oh, OK, you don't take any notes.

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You don't change your life.

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You don't write anything down versus the dreams that we looked at in the Bible set like the

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country of Egypt on a 14 year trajectory to avoid the worst famine in their modern time

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that would have literally wiped out pretty much the entire known world because the Bible

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says every family, every nation came to Joseph to buy grain during the famine.

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And so literally was a plan to save the world.

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I mean, that's how critical it is.

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And so I think the first step in what we do is just really valuing dreams.

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And God is a respecter of persons in dreams.

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He doesn't give the super cool dreams to just the known prophets.

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In fact, there's some prophets that that don't dream at all.

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And then there's some that they kind of get little dreams or like sticky note kind of

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things.

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And then there's other people who may not be known whatsoever, who get very deep and

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in depth and involved dreams.

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And we like to look at all of them.

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Yeah.

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So you've actually gathered together what you believe God is saying about the year 2024

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from various different sources.

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People can actually go to your website to submit their dreams for kind of interpretation to

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be added to this database, I guess, of dreams and that you guys are looking through it,

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looking through.

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And you have a team of people that you've trained and equipped to help with that.

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So let's just talk about what God is saying about the year 2024 to the dreamers.

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Well, we haven't done a study per se on what is he saying about 2024.

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But we're seeing some trends that after the first of the year, I don't think it's going

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to shift dramatically.

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So we haven't specifically looked for dreams about 2024 per se.

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But you know, obviously, we're midway through December.

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We're seeing some things that he's talking about.

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One of the things that we've we've put in our heart to do and we're doing the best job

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that we can at this is to gather dreams from a variety of sources.

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And so we have people on our team that we track not in a weird way, but just, you know,

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we watch known prophetic voices and known prophetic dreamers that some people may have

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never heard of.

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But we know them because of some of the dreams that they've had.

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And so when they put something out on YouTube or on Facebook or whatever, or they have a

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newsletter and they submit a dream or they they put something out there, a lot of times

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you'll see like, you know, prophetic voices will just put on a YouTube post or on a Facebook

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post.

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Here's this dream I had last night.

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And we know that those dreams are 100 percent from God.

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We've kind of settled the issue of the source of dreams.

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And so we pull those dreams in and then we transcribe them and then we put them in our

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database specifically for trending purposes.

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So we can see that was one one week or two week period of time when there were like five

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known major prophetic voices that were all talking about a dream or a vision they had

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about the Liberty Bell.

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And I was just like, I know these guys know each other, but I don't think they call each

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other every week and say, hey, what did you dream about?

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So we're probably there were probably people that maybe listened to two of them and said,

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huh, both of these guys are talking about the but we were probably in the unique position

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to recognize that there's five guys right now all talking about the Liberty Bell, not

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just guys, but guys and girls, you know, five prophetic voices that are all talking about

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the Liberty Bell right now.

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Like what is God saying?

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And so then we commission a dossier and then we dive into the dreams and we interpret them

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in light of one another.

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And then, you know, the Bible says on the basis of two or three witnesses, a matter

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is firmly decided.

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And so you can get, I believe, so much more of a prophetic accuracy than even one person

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who says, well, I've heard this from God directly and God is saying this.

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And we're like, well, we have from five different sources, people that some know each other,

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some don't, some are known, some are unknown, all dreaming about the same particular thing

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or the same state, the same city, the same leader, all in the same period of time.

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And it's just, just that fact alone makes people want to say, well, what did you find

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out?

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You know, what did, what does it mean?

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And so when we put things together, they're, they're really interesting in part of the

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supernatural kind of pop or punch to the dream world is the process of how you get to the

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meaning because you'll be researching one dream and then somebody will have a dream

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about the same thing.

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But it was about an instance that occurred 60 years ago.

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But this guy has a dream 10 minutes before the situation happened.

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And this guy has a dream 15 minutes after of a situation that happened 60 years ago.

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You know, that one in particular is the JFK assassination, but it's like, why is God talking

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about the JFK assassination right now?

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I've actually been noticing that that one particularly like there's been some YouTube

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videos that have come out recently about that.

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There's been some books that have come recently about that.

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So it seems that there's, there's more to it than just, you know, a, a, a unique trend

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right now.

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If there, if there's dreams happening about it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We're working on a very profound dream that a prophetic voice, just a nationally known

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guy.

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I really like this guy, really respect the voice of God through him.

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He has this dream and he's not from America.

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And so I'm like, do you, do you know what day you had this dream on?

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And I knew he had the dream on the 60th anniversary.

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I just in the spirit, he said, I had a dream earlier in the week.

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And I'm like, I think I know what day you had it.

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And sure enough, that's the day he had it.

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And I'm like, you probably don't know as much about American history, but there's this and

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this and this.

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And it led me on a journey to really like, okay, we need to look into this.

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And then God spoke to me and he said timeline.

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And I said timeline.

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And then I realized we have several other JFK dreams, probably six.

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And then I realized they were all about particular moments in JFKs.

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They weren't just like, oh, JFK walked up to a guy at a bar and said, Hey, how you doing?

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It was like one JFK is deciding whether to join the Navy.

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Another one is his inauguration day.

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Another one is during XCOM, during the Cuban missile crisis.

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Another one is the morning that he gets shot, where he's speaking outside in a parking lot

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in the rain.

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Another one, a guy is in the car with him when he gets shot in one dream.

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And then another dream about investigating some of the things related to the scene after

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the shooting had occurred.

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And so when we put all of this together, we're going to be able to times, dates, locations.

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Where did these events happen?

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What was the exact date?

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What was going on in the world at the time?

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And again, why the overarching question is, God, why are you speaking about that today?

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And I'll tell you why if you want to know.

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Yes, please.

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That's what that's what we're here for.

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What is God saying about 2024 in this next season?

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Yeah.

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And for the JFK thing in particular, like he's done with other historic dreams, is he's

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exposing roots where you're going all the way back to this date, this time, this location.

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These people were involved and it allowed a spirit into the country that was invited

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with legal standing at this moment.

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And all of these things have happened since then.

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I believe a doorway was opened and part of the results of that doorway had to do with

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even the abortion, you know, Roe versus Wade being passed 10 years later.

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And I believe that it had to do with specifically the JFK assassination.

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But there were some spirits behind that, that God is showing, okay, this was an event that

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caused a compromise and a level of blood guilt on the country that we need to know about

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because it needs to be reversed.

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Those things need to be ejected.

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Their legal standing needs to be taken away and it needs to be sealed up.

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And then God can begin to heal the land in regards to this particular instance.

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Wow.

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That's still a little cryptic, but I kind of understand where you're coming from with

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that.

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I mean, that's there's a lot of things that.

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So actually, here's the next question is how do we put these things into practice or what

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is the application that we can have for that?

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Because you know, like there's certain people that are in positions of authority that can

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do things, but there's also times where people that aren't in a position of authority, we're

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just like, okay, so we know about this dream.

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We know about this prophetic word.

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What do we do about it?

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How do we respond?

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Well back to the original question, which is, which I really didn't answer very well

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for you is what's going to happen in 2024?

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I see a lot more exposure coming.

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I feel like we haven't even, unfortunately, we haven't even begun yet to see the tip of

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the iceberg.

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And I think it's starting already in the church with certain events that are happening and

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unfolding even now.

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I think that is not an isolated incident.

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Unfortunately, I think that pressure is being put on in a spiritual capacity where God wants

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a clean house, and in order to do that, there have been people that have been set up in

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movements that have been leaders that have been compromised.

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There's entire, I don't want to say the entire movements are compromised because I believe

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that God can move even in the midst of people.

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But certainly the foundations of probably some pretty big ministries, some pretty big

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churches have been compromised, if not fully compromised, built on lies, built on corruption,

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built on deception, built on victimization of people that God in His justice and righteousness

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cannot let that stand.

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And as more and more people are waking up in America to things like human trafficking

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and calling for God's justice on our land, that comes with a price and the price is exposure

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and the prices as it begins in the house of God.

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And so that has to happen for that to overspill into the political realm.

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And we're already seeing some things in the political realm.

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Again, there's so much distraction right now, but we're being kind of desensitized to a

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lot of it.

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But by what we're hearing and by what we're seeing is there's so much more exposure that

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needs to happen.

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Like we're just barely getting started with how compromised agencies are, things in our

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government, but even prophets, even churches, like we talk about the deep state, nobody

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talks about the deep church.

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We don't talk about, it's unconscionable to think that there's somebody that has been

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paid off by intelligence agencies or the government to promote propaganda like the movie stars

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did with the COVID jab.

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People just don't think, they think like the prophetic is this trusted group that's never

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compromised.

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And I think that that world is going to get shook a whole lot harder than it did in 2020.

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2020 exposed a certain level of exposure on what was going on.

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And in my opinion, a lot of that still hasn't been corrected.

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And part of that is what happens when a whole group of people are moving in a particular

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direction and what appears to be happening doesn't appear to line up with prophecy.

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How do we handle that?

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Well, one of the ways is to create prophetic communities that have accountability, to not

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make decisions in an echo chamber, to avoid things like cognitive bias and cognitive dissonance

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and even in the prophetic world and to be challenged, to be open to being challenged

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and having some really frank discussions with, well, why do you believe that?

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Well, I believe it because of this.

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Well, you and all your three friends believe that and that's okay, but here's what I'm

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hearing.

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This is how I can back it up based on looking at again, probably 65 of the top prophetic

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voices of the top dreamers.

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And it's certainly nowhere near that we have it figured out because we don't.

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But we've moved in a particular direction.

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The thing that I was hearing after 2020 is God was taking me back to 1 Corinthians 13

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and he said, you know, in part, and you prophesy in part.

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And then he asked me the question, what if the parts came together?

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And I'm like, why aren't we doing that?

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I mean, I know we have prophetic round tables, but why don't we get groups of people together

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that analyze and interpret even prophecy?

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Because a lot of prophecy is figurative as well.

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Yeah, we gather interpret dreams, interpret prophecies, find out what they mean at a deep

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level and then hear the voice of God for a generation or for a time.

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So I feel like that's going to increase.

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We've been kind of three years on this journey of what we call spiritual intelligence.

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I described spiritual intelligence as a new movement in the prophetic and it's a new movement

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of deep analyzation.

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And it's not that you've got to be a brainiac and figure it out.

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It's really Holy Spirit led revelation through a word of knowledge and word of wisdom like

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Joseph did, like Daniel did.

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We study those models and say, what did they do and how can we replicate that?

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And he's showing us a ton through scripture.

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And then we're seeing things in dreams that are future predictive, some that are exposing

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roots of the past before our lifetimes, things that are happening that is just like, wow,

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this is incredible and it's amazing.

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So it's a very exciting time.

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I believe God is going to continue to speak more in dreams more and more and more.

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There were so many people are waking up to the idea that not only is God speaking through

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dreams, you should write them all down, every single one.

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If you have a dream you don't like, if you want to believe that it's a demonic dream,

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write it down first and then seek out an interpretation.

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But don't blow off any dream at all whatsoever if you value the voice of God in this next

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season.

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And at the same time that that's happening, I feel like God is getting louder.

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The world is getting more and more corrupt with there's really no media outlet at all

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whatsoever that I completely trust anymore.

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Not the right, not the left, not the alternative, not even the social media is not, there's

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just so much and there's so many people that are part of what God is calling a conspiracy

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of the prophets where they'll take a picture off of mainstream media and they'll say, well,

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hey, this is what happened and blah, blah, blah.

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And it's like, have you researched that?

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Did you back that up or are you parroting the propaganda of what the mainstream media

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is?

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There's a level of accountability and purity that's coming in the prophetic, but I believe

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a lot of that is going to come through dreams.

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And again, why dreams?

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Because dreams are like double blind.

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It's like when Nebuchadnezzar said, I want somebody that can tell me the dream first

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and then tell me what it means.

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And so when somebody has a dream, they don't know what it means.

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And so it's not like they're like, well, I think it means this and this and this and

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almost every time that that happens, especially if it's some sort of watered down pseudo literal

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thing, they're missing most of the message.

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And some of the time they're even flat out wrong.

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And when you get a group of people together that are analyzing and looking at other dreams

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and other pieces of intelligence that God is saying, especially in a time of exposure,

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then there's going to be an explosion of right information and good intelligence, what we

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call intelligence from righteous spiritual sources, which means from heaven that we can

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trust.

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And it's going to point the way it's going to be like the light in the darkness.

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Yeah.

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You know, John, you just mentioned a couple of things that I want to a couple of terms

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that I want to kind of focus in on here.

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You said something about the deep church being exposed.

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We talk about the deep state, but there's a deep church and it's going to be exposed.

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Then also the conspiracy of the prophets.

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It seems to me that those these two things are kind of maybe hand in hand.

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Could you just explain a little bit more about what those what those are?

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You've heard of Project Mockingbird?

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Yes.

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So basically the intelligence agencies have plants inside the mainstream media and they

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say things and they put forth a propaganda agenda that tends to be wildly radical left

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leaning.

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And we saw a lot of this.

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A lot of people were awakened to it for the first time in the backlash and the blowback

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of what's happened since 2020, particularly related to the pandemic.

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We were given a bunch of information, other voices that said anything, even though they

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had degrees and were doctors and healed everybody that ever came to them.

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They silenced those people.

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They put out the preferred narrative.

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And now we're finding that that narrative wasn't suspect.

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It was a flat out lie.

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And they were knowingly lying to people and people were dying.

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The problem is, is people don't feel like that can happen in the church.

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And there are major people that are funding those same types of people are funding churches

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and they're funding inner city programs in churches where certain churches get dollars

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related to this.

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And then I had I had pastors that I hadn't heard from in 10 or 15 years calling and leaving

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messages on my phone saying, hey, come to my church and you can get the jab for free.

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And I'm like, you haven't bothered to call me in 15 years, but you're going to call me

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now and advertise.

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And I'm like, how much were you getting per like, you know, and it's not just related

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to that, but it's related to a bunch of other things where it can cause distraction.

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I mean, I think it's really naive of us to think that the intelligence community and

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any level of bad leadership hasn't taken the time to get to know our world.

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You know, if they want to lie to us anymore, they don't put something out on CNN.

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They start a telegram group called Patriots That Love Jesus.

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And then they put out whatever they want.

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And then people spread it like wildfire.

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And then they add the words, you won't see this in the media.

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And then it spreads like wildfire everywhere else.

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And we don't think that they figured this out yet.

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Well, what about prophetic voices that are getting up as we're having these rallies?

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And I'm not saying any rally in particular or any one in particular, but we're getting

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groups of prophetic voices together and then putting them on a wide platform.

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And they're saying, you know, thus says the Lord, God says this and God says that.

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The idea that none of them have ever been compromised, that they can't be blackmailed,

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that they can't be bought off, that they can't be paid.

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Now, I don't have anybody in mind when I say that.

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But I know that those programs exist on the intelligence side, where they've paid people

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to work in the religious community to be able to give a voice to something that was a government

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agenda.

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And I don't think we figured that out yet.

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I don't think we figured out, you know, people were shocked and appalled that that that Disney

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didn't want to put out the what was the sound of freedom, you know, and I think people are

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now just barely beginning to see what some of these companies that we all thought our

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kids were safe with are really about.

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But the problem is, is we haven't begun yet to really, really see that at a deep level

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on the church side.

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And so I had I had an open vision a while back, and it was about a massive wall of filing

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cabinets and there was a file cabinet in the middle.

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There were black filing cabinets and it was open and there was a file kind of sticking

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out and then it morphed into two couches facing each other.

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And my thought in the dream was, huh, two couches facing each other.

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That's like the Oval Office.

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And then suddenly behind these two couches were two walls and tire walls of black filing

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cabinets and one had a middle drawer open and one had another drawer open.

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And and it was I heard exposure war.

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And so it's the idea that as things are coming out about the left, then they're trying to

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bring things out about the right and they're trying to prosecute Trump for all of this,

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this, this, this, and this, and they're trying to say, well, you know, January 6th and blah,

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blah, blah.

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And now truth is coming out about January 6th.

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And so now they're changing the subject and it's Ukraine.

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And then the truth comes out about Ukraine.

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And then it's like, oh, well, this and it's like literally it's this endless game of watch

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the birdie.

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But part of what's happening is they're trying to discredit the left and the right, because

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in periods of time in this nation, there are lies that our leaders have told us in an effort.

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If we give them the benefit of doubt in an effort to protect us where they've said, well,

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this is too shocking and too scandalous for the American people to know.

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And so we're going to bury this.

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And what's happening is what you're doing is you're punting to further generations and

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things like the JFK assassination.

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Anybody that believed a thing, frankly, that the Warren Commission said based on the magic

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bullet theory, you know, you got to be dumber than a box of rocks.

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I mean, you just really I mean, if you've taken a look at that and the fact that the

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fifth floor, sixth floor museum still exists and continues to spout that garbage like people

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can't do research, you can take one look at the Zapruder film and see that what they said

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happened was not what happened.

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That it is physically impossible for what they said happened to have happened.

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And yet we pass these off with reputable names and with top bankers and with 33rd degree

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Masons, which is what the Warren Commission was made up of.

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And we put it off in the American people and then we say, oh, they yay justice.

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We got the one known 24 year old who was able to do a one in a billion shot that nobody

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else could do and problem solved.

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And what it's done is it's allowed compromise into this nation and God is dealing with the

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roots of the compromise.

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So part of it is exposure.

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Part of it is more dreams and more exposure prophetically.

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Part of it is God has to clean his house prophetically and in the church world.

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And then part of what's going to happen is as all of that comes out, there's going to

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be a call for repentance.

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I believe we're going to see some people who are who probably really were compromised,

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who are going to lay out an example for just saying this is how you repent or you come

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clean all at once.

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You come forward, you say, look, this is what I did.

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And God is going to touch that and it's going to be an example.

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And I believe ultimately what we're leading into is this happens in the church.

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It happens in the nation.

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And it's going to be a difficult time for a lot of people because they're going to their

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foundations of who they can trust.

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They thought we thought we could trust our doctors.

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We thought we could trust our newsmen, you know, go back to the days of Walter Cronkite.

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We thought and our parents still believe, man, I can listen to the evening news and

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I can trust what my doctor tells us.

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Now we know that that is an absolute pre-programmed lie that we believe either one of those two

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things and there are people died because information was withheld from them by those exact two

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institutions.

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That's the tip of the iceberg when it comes to pastors and prophets and churches.

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I think we're in for a shaking there too.

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Yeah.

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You know, you said something that just makes me think about, you know, we're headed towards

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a great deception.

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We know that there's an end times deception that's going to be happening, but there is,

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I believe there's many smaller deceptions that are happening in the process.

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And it's easier to believe a lie the more lies that you're being told because eventually

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you're going to be gaslit and you're not going to know what is up from down.

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You're going to think what you think is crazy.

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And so you're just going to start believing somebody else.

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And what you've just kind of laid out is a kind of examples of how that has been done

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in society.

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But something that you just said, there is going to be things that are exposed, especially

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in the church that I think leaders have the opportunity to demonstrate repentance.

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Well, you said this is how you repent and taking the opportunity to lead.

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Why would somebody, you know, somebody that is not living in sin, that's public, you know,

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they there's no reason for them to necessarily repent.

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I mean, there's always a reason to repent, but like somebody that is public, that has

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had an issue that has dealt with it, that, you know, that has dealt with it, that has

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committed, they can actually lead in repentance at that point because they are demonstrating

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it in that process.

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That was just something that I just picked up on from what you said.

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This is how you repent.

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And there's people that are going to lead in that.

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Could you just explain about that a little bit more as we're coming to a close here?

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Well, I've just been mauling that over.

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And I know this has been kind of a tough conversation.

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I feel like it's it's I want people to know there's a lot of hope because this is literally

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the ripping the bandaid off.

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And if you just look at that moment, that's a bloody, disgusting man.

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We need some hydrogen peroxide moment.

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That's the moment that we're in.

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That's what we're entering into in twenty twenty four.

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We're already seeing that at the end of twenty twenty three.

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But you know, if there's pastors and leaders and prophetic leaders that have I hate even

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talking about this stuff, have used social media to find out information, gotten up in

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front of people at a meeting and said, hey, there's somebody because they know that they're

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registered for their conference and call them out like it was a prophetic word from God.

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And they just did good research.

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Just come clean and tell people that you did that.

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If you've been having an ongoing affair for 10 years with somebody that was a part of

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your ministry, like don't wait until they're into, you know, the third party investigation

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and legal stuff and this and that, like have the fear of God to realize, you know what,

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I am not fit for ministry right now.

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I should not be a voice in this generation, at least at this moment.

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Yeah, I had a call in my life, but I'm not worthy of the call and back away.

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And don't take five minutes and then run back to, you know, the money trough of let's do

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conferences and let's get offerings and like take a beat and trust God that he's going

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to take care of you and your family.

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But unfortunately, I feel like the first wave that we're going to see is people that have

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been told on where other people have come clean and said, I was a part of this affair

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and I just can't keep this to myself anymore.

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I was a part of being groomed or human trafficking or embezzlement or these lies and fake ministry

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and deception.

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And I have to come clean and I encourage those whistleblowers to come forward.

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There is a grace on a whistleblowers, I believe in this season and there's probably going

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to be a judgment on people that come and bear false witness.

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I say that with a warning.

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Don't come out and try to take your number one prophetic voice or pastor voice that

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you don't like and speak wrongly against him because you will be found out.

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But if there is something that needs to hit the light of day, you know, Matthew 18, Matthew

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18, Matthew 18, do it, do it in order, do it right.

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Churches, ministries, take allegations seriously, handle this stuff right.

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And if you are accused and you know your conscience is not clear before God, what if instead of

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trying to do the damage control and the getting your attorney and getting some, you know,

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open AI to write a statement for you, what if you just said, you know what, I'm going

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to tell you what happened.

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Here's all the good, the bad and the ugly.

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And yeah, God has used me, but here's what I did.

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And if nothing else, let my life be a warning to the next generation.

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And you did the time, you know, you did the time, the crime now do the time, like take

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it on the chin and say, let my life be an example of at least the grace of God and how

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to come clean and repentance.

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And I think it's interesting.

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There's a lot of these people that when they're faced with stuff like sexual immorality, they

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always talk about David.

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Look at David's example when the prophet went to him and said, the man is you, you're the

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guy in the parable I just told that took the U lamp from the next door neighbor.

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And he said, it's me a hundred percent.

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Absolutely.

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You're right.

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I confessed.

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I did those things.

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I killed your Raya.

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I took his wife.

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I had a son with them.

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Please God have mercy on me and don't judge this nation for my sin.

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You know, if what, what if we had leaders that, you know, in the face of their sin, in

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the face of exposure could provide an example for, and not that they don't get sit down,

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but that there is a restoration process.

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And I think that's going to need to be modeled because when it comes to the political world,

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it's probably going to be worse.

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And then we're going to have to look at, well, how, how do we have anybody in leadership?

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How do we restore leaders?

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How does it look like?

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What does it look like for the grace of God, but not just the grace of God, but for the

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judgment of God, for the justice of God, for the victims, for the people that have been,

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you know, for kids that have been hurt or molested or people that have been trafficked

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and for deception and movements that have done a lot of wrong for the people that have

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been, you know, part of those movements and not feel like they wasted their time and their

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money and their lives investing into these places.

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But there's hope.

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And this is the hope.

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The hope is that as God exposes this, we're moving towards a coming generation that will

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be so much more pristine and pure like the bride of Christ that he wants, like what God

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wants for his bridegroom son.

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And it's going to be a spotless bride, but there can't be a spotless bride when we have

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all of this stuff, when we have mold and gangrene that's growing on the foot underneath the

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dress.

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Like we got to expose it and it's got to be dealt with.

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And then when it is, then we're going to see, and I believe we're also going to see, we're

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going to see a mass amount of people that are going to come to the Lord.

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The Holy Spirit is going to meet our nation in that process.

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It didn't say that the nation that's perfect.

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It said, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek

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my face and turn from their wicked ways.

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It's not that they weren't wicked.

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If that they turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, forgive their

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sin and heal their land.

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And that goes for churches.

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It goes for ministries.

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It goes for movements.

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It goes for cities, states, nations, and even the world.

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And God wants to heal us.

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He wants to heal the United States of America.

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There's been generations of compromise, one on top of another.

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There's been blood guilt.

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There's been assassination.

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There's been the spirit of Jezebel and many other things that have been brought in, the

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spirit of occultism behind the Nazis.

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All these things have been invited into our land with legal standing.

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And God is exposing these roots and exposing some of these base events that brought this

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stuff so that it can be cleaned up, so that his blessing can be upon us and his favor

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to a thousand generations as we sing about.

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So the exposure will bring hope and it'll bring purity and it'll really bring usher

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in a new generation because this is what, you know, and revival, because that's one

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of the things that we know revival comes whenever people do repent, because that's one of the

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things that we can look to.

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If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and turn from their

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wicked ways, I will heal their land.

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So these things, we can either do it willingly or we can be forced to do it, but it's going

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to happen and God's going to get his way.

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John, thank you so much for sharing with us what you're hearing God doing in the year

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2024 and this next season.

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It's a pleasure to be with you, John, and thanks for your time today too.