(181) Dark Reflections

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God promises in Joel 2.28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring,

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where we contend for that promised outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so that we may engage

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in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. Philip

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and I are going to talk about something that is a little unusual. You'll be hearing some really

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familiar scriptures, but from a very different perspective, we're going to look at dark reflections

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And we would be absolutely grateful if you would also give a donation to help pay this forward and

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help us keep this podcast going. So today, we're going to look at a scripture that has been on my

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heart ever since about two episodes ago, when we were talking about going from glory to glory and

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hidden treasures, treasures in earthen vessels. There was a scripture that Philip brought that

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I've been meditating about ever since. And I just felt like it was really important that we come

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back and revisit that scripture. Yeah, this is the King James, 1 Corinthians 13 verse 12,

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for now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then shall

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I know even as also I am known. Beautiful. That idea of seeing through a glass darkly has just been

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rolling around in my spirit. And I looked at some other translations to get an idea of what else

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has been translated from this scripture. The Berean Standard Bible says, now we see but a dim

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reflection as in a mirror. Then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part, then I shall know fully,

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even as I am fully known. And the Berean Literal Bible says, for presently we see through a glass

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in obscurity, but then face to face. Presently I know in part, but then I will know fully,

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even as I have been fully known. And the Amplified says, now we are looking in a mirror that gives

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only a dim blurred reflection of reality as in a riddle or enigma. But then when perfection comes,

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we shall see in reality and face to face. Now I know in part, imperfectly, but then I shall know

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and understand fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have been fully and clearly known and

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understood by God. So there's some different ways that it's being translated. And that's the wonder

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of the original languages. There is not one single translation that fully gives every,

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every, everything. Because Hebrew and Greek are both kind of pictorial languages that one word

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can be translated by many words into English. So that's why we have all of these, give it your best

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shot translations. But you kind of need to compare one with another to get the full meaning.

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And you can dig down into like the Strong's Concordance Dictionary. And my personal favorite

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is the, my favorite Bible is the Hebrew Greek Key Study Bible that has the lexical aids in the back

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that were compiled by Spiros Zodiades. Wow, there's just a depth, a depth and treasure trove of words.

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You know, you have one Greek word or one Hebrew word and you get a whole paragraph about what it

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means. Yeah, because there's places you go, you have no internet. If you're the speaker,

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you can't rely on the internet to look up your Greek word. Well, that's true. That's true. So

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it's nice having a Bible with all this in there. That is true. However, I regularly, on my phone,

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I'm all the time using the Blue Letter Bible app. It's quicker. It's very quick. It doesn't have

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the depth of information that this other one does, but it's got quite a lot. And I use the Bible Hub.

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You can go to BibleHub.com or Blue Letter Bible.com, but I use the apps on my phone.

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If I'm on my desktop, obviously I'm going to use the internet version, but the Bible Hub gives you

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different translations. And that's where I pulled some of these from that I just read. That's why

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they call it a hub. It's a hub. Absolutely. And it's wonderful. You can do verse by verse and

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I don't know how many it is, 20 or 30 different translations. So I use it almost every day.

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I'm voracious. I'm so hungry for the word because I just want to know the author.

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And you get to know the author by reading what he says. And for me, everything is all about knowing

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God. That is what this verse is all about. And that is what this verse is all about. But, okay,

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let me just go back and talk about mirrors in ancient times. And I think we talk about that

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a little bit in that previous podcast on hidden treasures. I think we touched on it about how

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the mirrors in ancient times, they might have been made out of obsidian, which is a black glass

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that's volcanic. And so they would, you know, just slice it somehow and then polish it up.

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It's pretty reflective to begin with. But, you know, I'm sure they would have polished it or

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they've made it, they would have made it out of brass or steel and then polish that. But I'm

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thinking in the 21st century, what we might consider to be a dark reflection, okay, a reflection

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that's kind of obscure that you really can't see well. As we were getting ready for the

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podcast, I was sitting in front of my laptop and it hadn't been turned on yet. So the screen is

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dark, but I could see myself in it. I could see a reflection, but I couldn't really see details.

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You know, I couldn't see my eyelashes. I couldn't see. I couldn't even tell what color eyes I had.

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Okay, I happen to have blue eyes.

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Yeah, I remember when you were Skyping me from Nigeria one time.

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Oh yeah, the room was very dark.

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All I could see was your teeth and the reflection from that 30 watt light bulb on the wall and the

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frame of your glasses. And that's all I saw. It was quite amazing.

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And we were looking through a glass darkly. It was an obscure reflection.

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But I knew it was you.

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Probably because you could hear my voice. But, you know, another dark version of this would be,

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for instance, if you were if you were by a black car and a black automobile that's been highly

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polished, nice and shiny, you know, you can see yourself in it. You can see reflection.

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That might be what it would have been like to have a mirror made of obsidian.

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Yeah, because I think back in the time of Jesus, they used Roman glass. Yeah. And you can buy.

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It's like one of my favorite things to do when we were in the church.

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It's like one of my favorite things to do when we were in Israel.

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Then we would take the tours and we go into a shop.

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And sometimes I would hunt for a pair of earrings or a necklace that was made out of Roman glass.

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Yeah, I like all of them. You got me.

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Yeah. And it's just very, you know, they're a little pricey, but they're beautiful because

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it's a rarity to find 2000 year old glass. Very true. Very true.

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But, you know, the whole point is that the reflection in these ancient mirrors would not have been

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anywhere near the kind of reflection that we would have in our mirrors today in the 21st century

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that have clear glass with silver behind them. But, you know, even a current modern mirror,

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you know, if it's maybe if it's a little bit old and the conditions have been damp or something

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like that, it might cause the silvering in the back to deteriorate.

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Yeah. And then you can't see very clearly. No.

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The reflection is marred. Yeah.

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Okay. And there's another thing about ancient mirrors, which kind of freaked me out when I saw

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it. I saw some pictures online when I was studying this and a lot of them, the handle of the mirror

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was an image of one of the gods that these people would have worshiped.

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Of course, these were would not have been cheap. They were more for the upper class.

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Oh, yeah. They were for the upper class and the upper class would have been,

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you know, really replete in their idols. Yeah.

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So they had lots and lots of idols. Yeah.

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And this was just there was part of their day to day thing to have idols all around them,

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because that's what they believed was making the difference in their lives.

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I remember our founder, Sister Gwyn, would say in Taiwan, you could go into a lot of the stores

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and you would see they have a little altar in the back up there. And then sometimes they would put

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a little honey on the lips of the kitchen god. Oh, yeah.

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So it would only say sweet things. Yeah. At the new year.

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At the new year. At the new year, they would change

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the kitchen god. They'd get rid of the old one. They'd bring the old one.

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So they put honey on the lips so that it would it wouldn't tell all the nasty things that people

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had done in the kitchen. So that's before they burned it, right?

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Before they burned it. Yeah. Oh, wow.

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Anyway, anyway, so much so much for idols. We don't want to talk about idols, but even in

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the occult, there are occult mirrors. There are mirrors that have been that have been given over

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and prayed over and and cursed so that they will will somehow be used in occult practices.

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And I don't study that kind of thing. I don't want to know that kind of thing,

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but I know that it's out there. Yeah.

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And so what I want to say about mirrors is even a really, really good mirror,

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even a magnifying mirror, you know, I use a magnifying mirror when when I put my makeup on

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because, well, I don't have my glasses on when I'm putting my makeup on. So I need to be able

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to see well. So I want to use a magnifying mirror so I can see the details. But even the best mirrors

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are not really telling you the truth. Because if you compare the image in a mirror

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and the image in a photograph, the photograph is really what you look like.

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Only not really, because it's only two dimensional. Yeah, it's flat, you know,

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it's not three dimensional. But the idea is that the photograph will at least show that the right

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side of you is the right side of you and not the left side of you. When when you're looking at a

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mirror, like if I part my hair on the right hand side, the person in the mirror has it parted on

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the left hand side. And sometimes on like on Facebook or something, people post something

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out of themselves and it's the writing on their sweatshirt or something is backwards.

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Exactly, because it's a mirror image. So your mirror is really not telling you the truth.

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It's not it's giving you a false sense of understanding. Now, it's good to help you

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find if you have a smudge of mud on your face, you know where to wash, you know, you didn't get all

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the chocolate off or whatever. Gotcha. Yeah, got you eating chocolate. You know, but and it can tell

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you if you've got a new gray hair or if you've got a zit or whatever, you know, it is good for

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that kind of thing, although you don't necessarily even want to know those kind of things. But it's

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not giving you a full picture of the truth. So what was rolling in me was why? Why is this scripture

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in First Corinthians 13? Now, what do we know about First Corinthians 13? If you're a Bible

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knower at all, if you're a Bible reader at all, if you've listened to very many sermons,

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you've probably heard a sermon about First Corinthians 13. The love chapter. Exactly.

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It's the love chapter. So why? Why would we have a scripture that's talking about

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looking through a mirror dimly, obscurely? It's like a riddle.

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It's knowing the author because even in verse 13, the end of the chapter,

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it says, And now by the faith, hope, love these three, but the greatest of these is love. Right.

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And that's what we're called to. It's what we're called to because that's who he is.

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And, you know, it's first, John four, seven and eight. Remember that little song we used to sing?

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I hope it's not copyrighted. Yeah. We love it. Let us love one another for love is of God.

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And everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God. Oh, listen to that. And knoweth God. He that

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loveth not knoweth not God for God is love. Beloved, let us love one another. First John four, seven and eight.

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Wow. Remember that? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

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So knowing God is about knowing his love. Yeah. So I want to look at 1 Corinthians 13

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for a little while today and just get the idea of why are we having a dim version?

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Why is this like a riddle to us? Why are we only getting it part way? I think the answer really lies

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in the fact that we are fleshly, that we are a spirit living in a fleshly body with a soul

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that is under training for learning how to walk with the spirit. And having to put down

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idle thoughts and put down. Imagination. Vain imaginations. Yeah. And having to put away doubts.

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Doubts. I mean, Adam and Eve started their downward spin by doubting.

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They listened to the accuser. They listened to the one who was lying to them.

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God didn't really mean that. He just doesn't want you to be like him. Yeah. And I'm going to throw in

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here. I think it was Dean Braxton or yeah, I think it was Dean Braxton that said, you know, this wasn't

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something that had just happened. This was going on for a while. I mean, you know, the serpent. Yeah.

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This, you know, this wasn't just this one time thing. This had been going on for a while.

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And isn't that what the devil does? You know, it just keeps whispering stuff into your soul.

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Right. And the only way you can filter that out is keeping your focus on the Holy Spirit and Jesus.

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That's the only way that you're going to focus all that out because it's just going to come at you.

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Yeah. It's true. It's like, it's like Chinese water torture. Drip. One drip at a time. Drip.

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Wow. Drip. And it never stops. Yeah. That's what it can be. So let's look at 1 Corinthians 13

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and let's consider what are the filters in us that would keep us from getting it.

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Okay. So I'm going to look at it in the amplified. If I can speak in the tongues of men and even of

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angels, but have not love, that reasoning, intentional spiritual devotion, such as is inspired

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by God's love for us and in us, I am only a noisy gong or a clanging symbol. So what would that be?

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Would that be like pride? If I can speak in the tongues of men and angels, da da da da da,

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how wonderful I am. Yeah, very well could be boasting. Boasting. It's all pride. Yeah.

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Before we go any deeper though, I'd like to, I forgot to do this earlier. I would like to

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give a definition of what this agape is. This agape love. Thank you, Spiros Zodiac. This is

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from the lexical aids to the New Testament in his Bible I just mentioned. It's love, a word not

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found in classical Greek, but only in revealed religion, translated charity, meaning benevolent

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love. It's benevolence, however, is not shown by doing what the person loved desires, but what the

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one who loves deems as needed by the one loved. For God so loved the world that he gave. He gave

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not what man wanted, but what man needed as God perceived his need, namely his son who brought

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forgiveness to man. God's love for man is doing what he thinks best for man and not what man

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desires. It is God's willful direction toward man, but for man to show love to God, he must first

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appropriate God's agape for only God has such an unselfish love. It's beautiful. Isn't that

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beautiful? So it's love by choice, not by chance. So if I don't have love, I'm going to be like a

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noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. But what would it sound like if I do have love and speak with

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tongues? See, that's where we know in part and we prophesy in part and that's how we're seeing

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through a glass darkly. This is a dark reflection. What does it look like if I do those things with

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love? Maybe it'll sound more like a wedding bell. Because that's a love thing, right? So let's go

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on to verse two. If I have prophetic powers, the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose

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and understand all the secret truths and mysteries and possess all knowledge, and if I have sufficient

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faith so that I can remove mountains, but have not love, God's love in me, I am nothing.

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And that word nothing, that Greek, I don't have the name of the word, but it's zero.

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Literally zero. Yeah. And it goes on to say a useless nobody.

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Well, what's the scripture Jesus used? Said all those in that day, you know, did we not do all

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these wonderful things in your name? He says, I never knew you. It's just like we had the gift,

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but not the giver.

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Oh, well said. Yeah. And too many times a ministry will teach about getting a gift

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without really concentrating on the giver of the gift, because that's what keeps the gift pure.

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It's true. It's true. And it reminds me of that story of how back in the days of the Muslim conquest

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of Egypt, that there was a Sultan that he enjoyed the debate between the Jews and the Christians.

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And the Christian won the last debate and the Jewish guy was so angry. And so he did a little

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research and found out that Jesus said, if you have faith, you can move a mountain. So he told

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the Sultan about this. And the Sultan said, you know, that mountain there is in my way of the view.

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I'm going to ask these guys to move this mountain. So he called in the patriarch of the Coptic church

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and said, is it true that your Bible says that if you have faith, you can remove this mountain?

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He said, yes, it does say that. And he said, good. So I need you to move this mountain in three days.

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I guess maybe he wanted it right away. And the patriarch said, can we have three days to pray

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and fast, please? And so they prayed and fasted. Oh, and by the way, if you don't move the mountain,

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then all the Christians are going to have to become Muslims or be killed.

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Or something like that. And so they're praying and fasting for three days. And the night before

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they're supposed to move the mountain, the patriarch has a vision and he's told in the vision

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to go out right now. There's a man named Simon the Tanner and he's carrying a water pot and he's,

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I think that's what he was carrying. He was doing something. He was out and about doing something.

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I don't remember the details, but he only has one eye and you'll know him and he's the one

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that will move the mountain for you. So the patriarch goes out and he meets Simon the Tanner

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and he explains what he's supposed to do. And he says, I can't move a mountain. What are you thinking?

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I'm sorry, but I'm not your man. I'm just a humble shoemaker. And he says, they're conversing

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and the patriarch says, well, by the way, how did you lose your eye? He says, well, I was bending

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down to fix a shoe for this lady. I was just going to take her shoe off of her and fix it for her.

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And she pulled her skirt up way too far. And I saw what I shouldn't have seen. And I remembered

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what Jesus said, if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. So I reached up my all and I took

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my eye out. And the patriarch says, I don't think he really meant that. But he'd done it, you know.

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And to me, anyone who will take the book that literally should be able to move a mountain.

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But he was very humble. And that's why he qualified because he had this walk with God in humility

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and in taking the book literally. And so the next morning, Simon said, you know, I'll stand behind

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you and you and everybody, let's just all pray and ask God for mercy. And I'll be praying with you.

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So, you know, it won't look like it's me. And so they came out there as the sun is coming up

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and they prayed, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy. And the mountain picked up

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and moved. And you can go in Cairo, Mount Makatam is there. And it is the mountain that moved. It's

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called the Broken Mountain. That's what Mount Makatam means. And it moved from Tahir Square.

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And they said you could see the sunrise underneath the mountain when it lifted.

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Exactly. And actually the the sultan became a Christian at that point. He lost his job as sultan

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because he wasn't a Muslim anymore. But it brought great respect for the Christian community.

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And the thing was, Simon the Tanner disappeared. He wasn't going to hang around to be congratulated

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for having done something. I would say that that qualifies for what it looks like for someone who

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does have love. Beautiful. Not taking any credit for himself.

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Not taking any credit. And even this idea of understanding mysteries. You know, there's a lot

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of folks that are that are delving into the mysteries of God. And I love that. You know,

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it's part of the book. Mysteries are hidden for us to find. So don't get freaked out about Christian

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mystics because they're just dealing with what the book says. And the deeper you dig, the more

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mysteries you're going to uncover and the more nuggets you're going to find.

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And that's what we do. We just love to dig in it. But to do it without love, you wind up being

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nothing. And I think we look at this chapter of all of these great things that can be done

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by God's people that are part of the walk of the Spirit. But if we do it without love,

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if we do it without God's kind of love that is more concerned about the needs of others

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and how can we fulfill the needs of others. You know, even the unlovely, this last podcast

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that we did with Sherri Grubelnick about talking about what she's been through and her daughter

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Amber that is a special child, not what you'd call normal. How does the love of God

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move us, move us with his compassion to want to help? You know, that's where we become something

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in the kingdom, not this nothing thing. Yeah. Okay. I was looking for that scripture where

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your works are tried by fire. Oh, yeah. That's in 1 Corinthians 2, starting with verse 10. He's

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talking about, Paul is talking about himself as being a wise master builder. I've laid the

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foundation and the foundation is Jesus and others have built on it. And some are building with

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wood hay and stubble and some are building with gold and silver and precious stones. Every man's

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work shall be made manifest for the day shall declare it because it shall be revealed by fire

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and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Wow. Yeah. If any man's work abide,

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which he's built there on, he shall receive a reward. But if any man's work shall be burned,

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he shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved yet. So as by fire. Yeah. And that's what

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we're looking at. So if, what are we building with? If your works are love motivated, yes,

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then that, that gives you an entrance. I remember we had a speaker once, Howard Pittman. He was a

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good Baptist. I mean, he took trouble people into his home and he'd give out tracks and everything

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like that. And he had a massive heart attack, died on the table. He went to heaven, but they wouldn't

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let him through the gate and said, everything you did, you did for yourself. I think it was Jesus

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standing there. Everything you did, you did for yourself. It was your self motive. I'm sending you

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back to give you another chance. Thank God. I thought, Oh, wow. Yeah. So let's get it right the

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first time. Yes. Let's do things by love, by love, because otherwise we're not seeing clearly.

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We're not seeing the fullness of what, what God is trying to show us. And, and if we, if we go on,

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you know, he, it says, let's go to verse four, love endures long and is patient and kind.

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Love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy is not boastful or vainglorious does not display

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itself haughtily. See those, those things are like filters that keep us from seeing love.

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It's like looking at my reflection in the dark screen of my, of my laptop. You know, you really

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don't, you really don't see it well. Jealousy, boastfulness, haughtiness at verse five says,

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it is not conceited, arrogant and inflated with pride. It is not rude, unmanorly and does not act

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unbecomingly love. God's love in us does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not

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self-seeking. It is not touchy or fretful or resentful. Boy, the, the amplified really gets it.

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Doesn't it? Lays it up. You can't escape it. Like, ouch, hallelujah. Yeah. It takes no,

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I love this one. This one is so powerful. It takes no account of the evil done to it.

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It pays no attention to a suffered wrong. Wow. Come on, we got it. We got to come up higher.

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We've got to come up higher. We've got to not even be moved when our flesh wants to just

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go back and lick its wounds from, from something that somebody's done to us. It pays no attention

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to a suffered wrong. It's unoffendable. Love is unoffendable. It does not rejoice at injustice

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and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love does not

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rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail.

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Love bears up under anything and everything that comes is ever ready to believe the best of every

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person. Beautiful. Wow. I'm, I'm thinking we need to, Holy Spirit help us, you know, because we've,

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we've been seeing through a glass darkly. We've, we've been seeing a dark reflection. It's not

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d tell how much itㅠㅠ, you know? By the way, you know, we, I was going to happen with something

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like the David from David finished the story. And you know, the 얼굴 in the

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marketplace, you know, in intervention of tools and tools, you know, you can show like a

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interpreting the divine will and purpose, it will be fulfilled and pass away. Hmm, that's

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well put. As for tongues, they will be destroyed and cease. As for knowledge, it will pass

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away. It will lose its value and be superseded by truth. You know, we're not cessationists.

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There are people that use this scripture to say that now that we have the fullness of

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the scriptures, we have the canon of scripture, and so that which is perfect has come. That

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comes up a little bit further, but you know, they're saying that prophecy and tongues have

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ceased. That's only because it ceased for the people, the theologians that were trying

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to figure out why they didn't have any power. And so they made up this idea that it's because

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all of that ceased with the apostles. As for knowledge, it will pass away. It will lose

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its value and be superseded by truth. Wow, that's great. Knowledge will be superseded

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by truth. Verse nine, for our knowledge is fragmentary, incomplete and imperfect. And

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our prophecy, our teaching is fragmentary, incomplete and imperfect. But when the complete

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and perfect total comes, the incomplete and imperfect will vanish away, become antiquated,

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void and superseded. Wow. When I was a child, I talked like a child. I thought like a child.

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I reasoned like a child. Now that I've become a man, I am done with childish ways and have

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put them aside. And here we come to verse 12. Now, now we've got it in context. For

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now we are looking in a mirror that only gives a dim, blurred reflection of reality as in

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a riddle or enigma. And actually the Greek word there is enigma. But then when perfection

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comes, we shall see in reality and face to face. Now I know in part, imperfectly, but

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then I shall know and understand fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have

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been fully and clearly known and understood by God. Now, I just want to go back and take

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a few of those words where it says we know in part. That word know means to know experientially,

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not intuitively. Like intuition is something that you know and you knower. Yeah. And you

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know you're right. But this is knowledge that you've gained by experience. We haven't experienced

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everything there is to experience. There's always more to experience. Yeah. For we know

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in part and we prophesy in part, but when that which is perfect is come and that word

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perfect doesn't mean perfect as in with no flaws. You know, like we think about the scripture

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is the perfect thing. Well, no. When that which is perfect is come, the word perfect

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there is the word Greek word telios. And it means adult, full grown or full age as opposite

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to little children. It can mean to reach the intended goal. So that gives context for the

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next verse. Okay. When that which is perfect is come perfect, meaning adult or full grown,

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full age as opposite to little children, then that which is in part shall be done away.

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When I was a child, okay, the word child is nepios and it means infant not able to speak

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plainly. When I was a child, I spoke as a child. Okay. We've just been around some little

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children today and, and I'm thinking about our youngest granddaughter. Sometimes you

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understand what she's saying. And sometimes it's like, what did you say? I didn't catch

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that. Yeah. Not able to speak clearly. So the comparison here is when that which is

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perfect has come, when that which is full age, it's comparing to a little child. When

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I was a child, I spoke as a child. I understood as a child. And it can also mean a minor,

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a minor child. It's like, you don't give the keys to the car to a minor child. They're

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not ready to drive yet. Yeah. You know, you might give the keys to the baby to play with,

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not to drive the car. I understood as a child, I thought as a child, but when I came to a

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man, when I became a man, I put away childish things. So it's about being full grown, full

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grown when you can be trusted. And so the comparison here is we are only getting this

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whole love picture dimly. We're only getting this walk in the spirit picture dimly. We're

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not getting the full reflection. We're not getting the whole details. Because we're trying

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to look at everything through a natural eye. What's going on around us. Maybe what we're

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hearing. What did the Lord speak to you? Pull back, draw back and pray, which means don't

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listen to anybody else. Yes, that's exactly what it means. Because that's how we're motivated

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a lot of times. Yeah. A lot of times we are parroting what other people are saying. Yeah.

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And there's something to that, that when you hear something that you know, the Holy Spirit

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is resonating with you about, you can make it your own. Right. Yeah. But other things,

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if you repeat it enough, you believe it. Yeah, that's true. And it might not even be true.

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Isn't that what the news media? Sure. They would just keep repeating things and eventually

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you get used to it and then maybe you or your siblings or something, they'll agree to it.

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That if you say it enough times, people will start saying it for you. Propaganda is not

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just a communist word. It's for what's happening today and all things. We understand that.

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Propaganda. Yeah. But we have to put away the childish things. We have to be able to

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be so focused on the Lord and focused on His word that we're getting to know Him, getting

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to know His ways and letting His love begin to operate through us. And that's through

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who you listen to. We said that, but I was listening just a little bit ago to a message

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by Catherine Kuhlman. Wow. Because she knew the Holy Spirit. Yes, she did. I mean, you

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look at the tremendous miracles, everything she had. But we've heard someone say that

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knows her workers very well. She would just run out. If I can just get out because I know

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the Holy Spirit is out there on the stage waiting for me. But I had to get out there.

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She was like a caged tiger before it was time to get out there. She was saying, Oh God,

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please, please don't fail me. Please don't leave me. And just pacing, just pacing and

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praying. So if you can imagine walking out into an auditorium full of thousands of people,

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that the Holy Spirit was who she just relied on. Absolutely. And when you listen to people

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like that, that are in the presence of God like that, you feel it. Yes. It might have

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been a recording 30, 40 years ago. 50, 60 years ago. 50, 60? Yeah, it was the 1970s.

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You feel it. So that's what you need to have when you're people you listen to. You need

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to feel it. You need to resonate. I think that would be the word we're looking for.

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If you can just resonate with what they're speaking, how you can really capture what

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they are saying. It's true. With regard to that word about when that which is perfect

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has come, in the explanation of it in this Bible I was talking about, it mentions the

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word, okay, we were looking at the word, Talios. He was saying, Talia agape is perfect love.

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And perfect love means that it's not lacking anything. It's not wanting love. And it's

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a love that accomplishes its goal. Yeah. And so that's what I believe the Lord is trying

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to encourage us about today. The thing that we have just been not seeing clearly, that

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God wants to give us clearly. And I'll just go back to the idea that Moses was face to

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face with God and it changed him. It changed his countenance. And that countenance, that

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face to face kind of face to face activity, just being with God, face to face, spending

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time with him, waiting on him. It changes us. And because he is love, the more we spend

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time in his presence, the more we're going to be able to live this 1 Corinthians 13.

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The more our flesh is going to lie down and let our spirit lead, because I think the key

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is that part of your soul that is your will. When you determine with your will, I'm going

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to go with my spirit. I'm going to walk with the Holy Spirit. My spirit is connected to

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the Holy Spirit and I'm not going to follow those fleshly ways. I'm not going to listen

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to that accuser anymore. When he's accusing me to me, when he's accusing others to me,

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when he's accusing God to me, causing me to doubt, I'm going to say no. And one of the

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things that God has been doing in me, I've probably mentioned it before, and it just

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started without me thinking about doing it. It wasn't something like God challenged me

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to do this. I found myself doing it because the Holy Spirit was doing it through me in

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my spirit. That every time I would get a thought into my head that my spirit would even recognize

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it before my conscious mind recognized what it was. And I'd find myself praying in tongues,

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speaking in tongues, addressing it in tongues. Instead of replying to it in English, get

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out of here. Get out of here. I start praying in tongues. I start speaking in tongues and

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it's like it stops it dead. Some kind of accusing thought, some kind of a you stupid, why did

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you do that? Or those kind of thoughts or look at that person or things that are thoughts

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of doubt. All of a sudden I'm speaking in tongues and it disappears. It's like it can't

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stand the light. Turn on the light. And that's what this whole study is about today. Turn

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on the light. It's when we're in his presence. We go from glory to glory. We go in this face

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to face, putting our face in a place where we can see his face. Even if you just start

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with your sanctified imagination, looking for his bright shining face and that Aaronic

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blessing. I believe there's something to that that we're seeing darkly still. He says twice.

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And it starts with the Lord Yehovah bless you and keep you. The Lord Yehovah make his

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face to shine upon you. This is Aaron saying this over the whole nation, the whole nation

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of Israel. As I'm meditating on it, I'm thinking he's saying you can have face to face just

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like Moses did. May his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The Lord Yehovah lift

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up his countenance. That's his face upon you. And when you have that experience, when you

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have that face to face encounter, I'm telling you, it gives you shalom. It gives you peace.

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It gives you that completeness, that tailios, that reaching a prescribed goal. Growing up,

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becoming the fullness of an adult. That's what he's trying to do. An adult believer,

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an adult saint, where his ways are being worked in us. And the more we spend time with him,

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the more we're going to get that shalom. So we just speak that over you listener.

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Yes. Amen.

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That he gives you his shalom as you are seeking him face to face. You will go from glory to

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glory. It's a transition. It's a transformation. It's like turning from a caterpillar into

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a butterfly. That's what he's doing. And as we start looking with the light on his word,

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beginning with the light of his spirit, in him was light and the light was the life of

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men. His life begins to pump through your veins and transform you into looking just

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like him. Wow.

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Hallelujah.

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Glory.

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There's hope.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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