(191) “Our Father Is Teaching Us How Heaven Operates So We Can Operate on Earth!” with Dean Braxton

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When I got back and I thought about it, I thought, whoa, that was weird.

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Yeah.

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Because everybody had a different color.

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And families were even identified by color.

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And then I came and reading the Bible, and I'm reading about the breastplate of the priest.

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And every one of those jewels represented a different color for the tribes.

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Yes.

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Every tribe had its own color.

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That's true.

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And I thought to myself, here it is again, God taking something the way it is operating

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in heaven and literally putting it here on the planet, but we don't realize the significance.

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God promises in Joel 2.28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity.

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Welcome to global outpouring.

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Should we contend for that promised outpouring, we equip for that outpouring so that we may

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engage in that very outpouring.

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I'm Philip Buss.

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And I'm Sharon Buss.

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Welcome to the podcast today.

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We have with us one of our favorite guests, Dean Braxton.

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He had that wonderful experience.

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Well, I guess it wasn't wonderful when he died.

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It wasn't wonderful at the time, but when he left his body, he was with the Father and

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Jesus in heaven.

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And he's going to unpack for us some of the wonderful things that he saw there and experienced

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there to help us to learn how important it is to do on earth as it is in heaven.

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Thanks so much for joining us today.

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And we're especially interested in hearing your feedback and especially today because

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Dean Braxton is going to open some things up for us that you may not have ever thought

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of before, but maybe it's going to answer questions for you.

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And we want to get your feedback so that we know how this is helping you.

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We'd love to hear from you.

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So please let us know what's going on in your life that this podcast is impacting because

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it's really important to us to connect with you.

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It's kind of lonely when we're just talking to microphones and we never know who's listening

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and we never know what people are thinking.

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Are you being blessed?

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Is the Lord using this to transform your life?

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Let us know.

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So today we have with us our dear, dear friend, Dean Braxton.

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Dean, we're just always so happy to have you with us and we'll put your website and your

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Facebook page and your YouTube channel in our show notes, as well as some of our previous

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episodes that we've had with you, some links to them so that our listeners can just get

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more because they're not going to be satisfied.

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If this is their first time to hear you, they're going to want more because I know I want more.

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I'm so interested in what's going on in heaven and to understand so that I can build my life

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on this earth in communication with the Holy Spirit for how things are being done in heaven

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because we've been praying for all these generations and thousands of years, thy kingdom come,

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thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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Well, Dean, it's so good to have you with us again.

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We always love having you with us.

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And I was thinking about it this morning.

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I think you're probably our favorite guest.

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We've probably had you on more than anybody else.

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And I enjoy you guys too.

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I really want us to do more regular programs together.

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I feel like it's a God thing that He's connected us.

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I'm with you.

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This is a time, I think, a moment, you know, and I'll tell people it's been about 17 years,

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going on 18 years since, you know, I died and had the experience of going to be with

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the Father of Jesus.

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And my pastor years ago told me about two years into it, he said, there are things that

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you won't be able to talk about because God is saying that people are not ready for it.

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And so, I feel in the last year or so, in almost two years, since I've come in contact

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with you and Phil, that God is saying I can talk about things or bring out things that

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I couldn't talk about before because people are ready for it.

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Their hearts are ready for it.

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Maybe it's because of the situation that's going around in our world, really, to be honest

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with you.

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I don't want to say our country, but it's really the world situation.

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And I think a lot more people are open to hearing things out of the traditions of what

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we're used to hearing to be able to be more, what do you say, effective on the planet,

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as I say it.

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So, I think I'm hooked up with you and Phil for that reason.

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I think I told you that the Lord said that this is a teaching place for me.

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I'm an evangelist.

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I love it.

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I love to bring in the harvest.

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I love to bring in people to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

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But there's a lot of things I experienced with the Father of Jesus in heaven that I

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could teach on.

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And I haven't mainly because I'm an evangelist.

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You know, I'll start off next year evangelizing, bringing people in.

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But for whatever reason, global outpouring, I'm giving the, what do you call it, the go

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ahead to teach in your midst.

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And I think with yours and Phil's guidance and encouragement, I will be able to teach

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some of this stuff.

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And I think it's more of a joining together of two things that God has put on the planet,

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what you guys are doing, and since even the knowledge you have, with what I experienced.

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My pastor in the past, Sharon, Pastor Jan Butler, he knew the Bible in the Greek.

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And so as I was back on the planet and adjusting to being here.

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That was tough too.

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Adjusting to being here, he helped me out by knowing the Bible in the Greek.

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And when I would tell him something that I experienced with the Father in Jesus in heaven,

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he would say it many times, oh, the Greek said it that way.

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And when he said that, that helped me to be able to not feel alone on the planet.

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I don't know if people realize that because to me, I felt like I was being dropped in

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the Amazon jungle.

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I didn't fit no longer.

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And I didn't think I would ever, ever, ever relate to anybody ever again, once this happened

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to me.

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And so for him to be able to take the word of God and say, Dean, this is in the word

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of God.

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Every time he did it, there was a settling in me like, oh, thank you, Jesus, I'm not

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alone.

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And it also let me know that as people read the word of God, they can come into this knowledge

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also.

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Maybe not in the same way I did, which was a crass course.

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Yes.

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But they're going to get there sooner or later because there were so many things that was

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outside of my belief system in the sense of what I thought it was going to be like.

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And so I see that with you and feel in what you're doing.

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It's helping me to move again into that realm of being able to say something and with your

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knowledge of the Jewish people and feels dogs of the Jewish people, we're bringing a connection

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there.

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And I really think it's unlocking doors for us to be able to do things like Jesus said,

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greater things you will do than he had done.

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And I really think that's what this is all about, that that's why God is doing this.

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So I look forward to these times of spending with you guys and just kind of sharing with

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you things and asking that if God brings something, you bring it in because I need it.

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And I believe the people that are hearing it, whether they realize it or not, they're

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being exposed to some things.

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Where do you find that at?

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None of my colleagues are doing this.

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Do you understand what I mean?

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What I mean by those that have died and gone and be with the Father in Jesus.

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They're sharing their story of heaven, don't get me wrong, and what they experienced.

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But to be able to join it, in our case, with the Jewish people in the Hebrew culture, no

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one's doing that.

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You understand what I mean?

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So we get the opportunity of me first hand sharing what I experienced and you guys literally

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saying, hey, look at this.

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Yeah.

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There have been so many things that you've said that have just caused me to resonate

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with something that I've seen in the Word.

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And so that's exactly what's been going on.

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Because we've talked together in these other episodes that we've done.

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And when you've been here and sitting around the table and all those wonderful times of

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fellowship.

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So one of the things that I know that you're doing right now is you are writing a book

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about family in heaven.

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Correct.

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And you've told us in other times that when you got there, you were greeted by family

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members, but not only family members that you knew were there, but generations and generations.

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Tell us more about that and whatever else the Lord wants you to reveal.

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You know, I want to back up a little bit and share just becoming a writer.

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Because this is significant and I'm hoping when I get to a certain point, God will open

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up something for you and you'll understand it and you'll say something from your point

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of view, to be honest with you.

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It helped me even to walk you a little bit further.

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But I like to tell people that I've always wanted to be a writer, but because I was born

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with dyslexia, you know what I mean?

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And I see things backwards, really.

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I see them backwards before I see them forward.

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I can read a word backwards before forward.

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Even when I'm reading, I have to watch and take a breath because I'm rearranging words

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all the time.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And if you ever heard me read, sometimes I'll get lost.

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And that's what's going on is that I'm rearranging a sentence because I'm looking at it from

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the back.

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You know, I'm looking at it from what right to left, then left to right.

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If you know what I'm saying?

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Well that's Hebrew.

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Yeah, I was saying it's like reading in English but written in Hebrew.

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So yeah.

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Reading left to right, but...

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Hebrew is right to left and some other languages too.

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Yeah, and that's what was amazing to me because after I came back, I said to the Lord, I said,

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why didn't you fix this?

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You know what I mean?

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This dyslexia.

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He healed my brain.

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He healed my heart.

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He healed my toes.

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He healed everything about me, all 29 different things that went wrong with this body.

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There was no residue.

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There was nothing wrong with me when I came back, you know, except for my toes were dead.

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He healed those later on.

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But the reality of it is I asked him, I said, why did you not fix this?

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You know what I mean?

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Because this is something I've struggled with my entire life on the planet, you know?

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And I think I told you earlier, I really didn't learn how to read until I was 17 years of

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age.

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And what really got me to read was I became born again and I wanted to know the scriptures.

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So I would open up my Bible and where I didn't know words, I would just go pass them and

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just keep on with the words I knew.

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But after a while, I became acquainted with certain words and by memory, not by spelling

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it out or pronouncing it out, you know, by memory, I would see a word, oh, that word

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is that word or that word is this word.

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That's probably one of my Achilles' heels is that I'll look at a word and if I don't

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look at it close enough, I'll think it's another word because I didn't read it.

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It just picture came back up in my mind, you know?

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So that's how I read.

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And as I'm getting older, I become better at doing it.

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When I was younger, through this struggle.

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Okay.

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But this is one of the things I said to the Lord, why didn't you heal me of that since

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you healed all these other things?

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And He said, there was nothing wrong with you.

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And I first didn't grab it, okay?

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And I was in Washington State and I was pondering over this stuff.

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I was down the pier of the Puget Sound, if you've ever been to Seattle, they got the

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Puget Sound.

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And I was on a pier and I was looking at the water and there was this lady there and she

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was grieving because her son had died and they were barren putting his ashes out in

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the ocean and she didn't go out in the Puget Sound.

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But her family was out there and she was on the dock with me looking at her and we were

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talking.

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And her profession was working with people that had dyslexia.

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Wow!

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Oh wow!

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And me and her talked for a while and she told me, there's nothing wrong with you.

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You just see things different than people see.

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For years, I always thought there's something wrong and I'm broken.

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And everybody else was fixed, that type of thing.

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And so, Sharon, this is what I want to bring to you.

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This is the part.

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So I went to the Lord and I said to Him, you know, why didn't you fix it?

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He said, there's nothing wrong with you.

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She confirmed it when she said that.

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He said, if you would have been with words, you would never have been able to hear what

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I was telling you and bring it back.

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Okay?

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Wow!

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And let me tell you why He said that.

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Because we didn't communicate with words.

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We communicated with pictures.

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Everything that was said, and I'll put it into words, was not words that were said to

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me.

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It was pictures that were given to me.

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When I communicated with anything there, it was thought to thought, but it would be a

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picture.

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The best way, if I had to talk about a chair, I wouldn't say anything.

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I would form the picture in my head, transfer it to your thinking by your permission.

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You would see exactly the chair, what I was talking about, what it looked like, every

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detail of it, and that's how we would go back and forth and communicate, you know, and picture

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for.

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Now, I say that because a lot of times people say, well, is the language of heaven Hebrew?

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Okay?

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And I could say, yes, it is.

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I hope you can reiterate more than I am saying right now, because I heard that the characters

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are really pictures.

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Yes.

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Is that true?

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Yes, it is.

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Yes, it is.

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And even the proto-Hebrew, the early, early Hebrew, was in some ways was even more pictorial

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than it is now.

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But everybody who studies Hebrew knows that each letter means a picture.

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Yeah.

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It's like Chinese, too.

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Yeah, Chinese is the same way.

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Yeah, I know about the Chinese, but that really got me, because when people always think it's

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Hebrew, I'd say, in a way, it is.

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But it isn't like we think it is, like I was speaking language or words to you right now.

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It is pictures.

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And if we go to the pureness of what the Hebrew language is, it's pictures.

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That's what it is.

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So in heaven, you could say, yes, it's Hebrew, but it really was from heaven to earth.

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So God was literally giving to the Hebrew people a language in the way that the heavens

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operated.

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Yes.

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I see that.

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It's amazing.

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And I think that's why, you know, when you are witness to something, you see an event

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happen and then they ask you to testify.

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You're having to put what you saw into words.

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Into words.

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And I think that's what you're communicating to us now is that not only did you see things,

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but you saw things that were given to you by thought.

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Yes.

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Like history, things that you saw of what happened before.

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You saw them.

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Yes.

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Was it like you saw the event when you saw Jesus hanging on the cross?

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Yes.

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Just shredded.

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Yes.

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And the way you've described how His blood would come out in spurts.

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Yes.

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A sprinkle like mist.

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You saw it.

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You didn't hear words.

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No.

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It wasn't described to you.

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You saw it.

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And saying that to you, I'll go a little bit deeper with that.

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When I saw it and maybe there's something you can reiterate if I say this.

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If anything comes to your remembrance of anything when it comes to your Hebrew culture or the

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Jewish culture, you know what I mean?

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Just say it because I have questions inside of me about these things.

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Okay.

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I just don't say God just kind of like this is it and everything.

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I really believe that the Jewish people or the Hebrew people were given these things

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at the beginning.

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When Moses was given the Ten Commandments, it was different than what we see in Charleston

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Heston's movie.

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Do you understand what I mean?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And the finger cuff guy comes and all that thing.

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I really think-

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I think it was a pretty good picture though.

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Yeah, it was.

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I like it.

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It's good.

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But it's as far as we can go in trying to describe what took place at that moment.

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I say that because when the communication came to me from anything in heaven, it was

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pure number one, but I just didn't see it in my mind's eye.

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I could hear it.

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I could taste it.

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I could feel it.

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Oh, wow.

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Through senses.

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All five senses could grab it.

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And it was like my taste was hearing it at the same time or my eyes were hearing it at

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the same time.

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It wasn't that my ears were just hearing it.

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It was these other senses took on whatever the other five senses were.

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Wow.

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You know, I even, when I came back, said I had a sixth sense.

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It wasn't a sixth sense.

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It was all my senses operating in the pureness of what they were created to be.

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And I really believe Adam and Eve had that in the garden.

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You know, I really believe that the dullness came after the fall.

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But before the fall, every one of our senses, our sight, our hearing, our touch, our smell,

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you know, our taste, we're at a different level, our expansion, as I like to say, than

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we have now.

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And we are, what do you call it, because of our flesh in the down and going down, you

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know, deteriorating, we're at a disadvantage of what we could have been if that never happened.

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But when I got to heaven, all of a sudden, all that was there.

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So when something communicated to me, I got the pureness of it.

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It wasn't just words that I had to define what they're saying, like people are right

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now.

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What is he really saying?

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What's going on?

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I just got it.

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And it was quick.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And what I'm getting right now as you're talking is, I'm sorry, it's not Hebrew, but it's Greek.

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It's the word logos for the, you know, in the beginning was the logos.

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And the logos was with God and the logos was God.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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That word logos, it not only is referring to words that are spoken, but it's also thought.

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Yes.

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Hmm.

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So in the beginning, like, before you ever say something, unless you're saying it by

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the Holy Spirit and you didn't process it in your head, before you say something, you

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always think it before you say it.

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But what I'm understanding you're saying of communication in heaven is that you get the

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whole shooting match with every sense it's being given to you by the person who's communicating

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with you and it's coming across in thought, but it's also something you're experiencing

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with all your senses.

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Yes.

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That's what, and even you opening up that door, I closed it years ago because I got

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really ridiculed for saying this one time, you know, and I thought, well, I just won't

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go there, you know, and it was really abrupt when I said it.

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So I said, no, you can't do that.

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You know what I mean?

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That's how they came across to me.

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And I said, whoa, but I was just trying to share with them this experience of this communication.

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And it was like my thoughts were more real than my words.

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And I was telling them that and there were power in my thoughts.

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I didn't go any further because I was cut off by the person, but my actual thoughts

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seem to have more power than my words did, you know, and I'm not saying we're not to

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speak things out or say things, but for some reason, my thoughts were more powerful than

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my words were in heaven.

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And so I don't know how to say anything.

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I don't know if there's something in the Hebrew belief system that we would tease that out

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more, but I just remember thinking when I first came back, our thoughts were more, I

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know we're supposed to take every thought captive, you know, which says, why would that

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be if it wasn't dangerous in the wrong way?

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Right.

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You understand what I mean?

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And so I really think a lot of times we get to the words and speaking, but something about

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our thoughts was even more powerful than the words coming out.

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You know, maybe it goes with the scripture, it says, not what goes into a man that defiles

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him, but what comes out.

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But that has to start with thoughts and that leads to something else.

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I know we were talking about family, but this is kind of like jumping on one thing after

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another.

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That's alright.

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When I was there and worshiping the Father, and I said this when I was out there at your

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facility and I didn't know how to really get into it and go deep, but when I was there,

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the flowers were praising the Lord.

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They were giving Him praise and they taught me something about praise that was really

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outside of my thinking.

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And what they taught me was there's an outward praise and an inward praise.

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Remember I talked about that?

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But when I say something to the Father, this goes into eternity, whether people realize

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it or not.

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You do anything in the kingdom of God and you express it outward, it's going to hit

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eternity.

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And what I mean by that, it's going to hit the Father.

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Once it hits the Father, it's in eternity.

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It will always be there.

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You know, when you get to heaven, there will be things that you've done.

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I won't say you forgot them because that doesn't exist there, forgetting things.

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But there will be things that God will bring up that you've done that would have been,

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you know, maybe you were five years old when you did it, but it was eternity, whatever

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it is, whatever word you said or something.

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There's things we do right now daily that we may think are temporal, but they're eternal

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things.

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So that's outward.

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But inward, there was also the flowers taught me.

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There was a praise or worship that went inward.

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So it went two different directions.

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One went outward, one went inward.

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And the inward one, when it got inside of me, literally would, what do you say, hook

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up with the Holy Spirit.

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And once it hooked up with the Holy Spirit, it went into eternity also.

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So as I'm talking to you, there's a sound going outward, but there's a sound going downward.

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And that sound going downward hits up the Holy Spirit and it enters eternity.

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And I was at wow about that later on when I thought about it, because I thought, we

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don't understand the power that goes on the inside of us.

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That's exactly right.

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Exactly.

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Yes.

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And I even came back with the idea that we're stronger than we believe we are.

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I'm sure that's true.

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You know, there's things that say, no, you're weak or this, but we are, we're so strong.

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And that was those thoughts, you know, and saying that to you.

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But I really came to understand that the language of heaven is really pictures.

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So people can look at it and say, well, yeah, it's a Hebrew language, but it's in pictures.

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But it's not looking at it from a Hebrew upward, it's looking from heavenly downward, because

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the Hebrew people would have had to get it from heaven to be able to come up with the

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language they have.

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Is that cool?

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Is that cool?

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That is cool.

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And I think what you're saying about that having come from heaven, it's the Hebrew understanding

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and it's my understanding from what I learned, you know, before I knew that that's how the

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Hebrew people or the Jewish people would think, is that, you know, it says in, I'm not sure

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exactly the scripture reference, but the Lord said to Moses when he was up on Mount Sinai,

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be sure that you do everything according to the pattern shown you in the Mount.

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Okay.

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So it's my understanding that Moses had a visit to heaven as well and that he saw in

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heaven the things that you saw.

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And then God showed him how to make things on the earth out of what we have on the earth

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to work with.

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And so that's how it was a type and a shadow of things to come to give everybody the idea

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that, you know, this is our temporary version, just like all of the sacrifices that were

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done, all of those things that were shown to Moses to do was to be a picture to help

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us understand.

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And again, here we are with pictures, the types and shadows are pictures of the reality.

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The Old Testament, I love the saying that the New Testament is in the Old Testament

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concealed, and the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.

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Revealed.

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Yes.

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It's very good.

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So this is, you know, we learn from the writers of the New Testament and the Gospels and

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Paul and the other few writers that contributed to the New Testament, they're opening up

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for us what these pictures were that were started in the Old Testament.

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Yeah, and I think you're saying something because, you know, coming back to the planet

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with that type of thinking, you know what I mean?

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There's a lot of things that come back to the planet with that thinking and I think

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about it now, got a grit when I think about it.

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But coming back with the planet, you know, and having to walk here and then having to

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go back to communicating by words, you know what I mean?

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When there in heaven, it was by pictures, thoughts.

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You know, it took me a time even to adjust to opening up my mouth again and speaking.

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Not because there was damage done to it.

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It was that in heaven, I was used to not opening up my mouth to speak.

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I was used to anytime we opened up our mouth, and you heard me say this before, it was to

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sing.

476
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,440
It was to give glory to God.

477
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,800
But anytime we were going to communicate, and this is hard for people to understand.

478
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,380
We didn't communicate by opening up our mouth and pronouncing words.

479
00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:03,840
We just gave a thought to someone and they gave a thought back to us.

480
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Now in saying that to people, no thought was forced on anybody.

481
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,480
And everybody, if me and you were in heaven and we were giving those thoughts across to

482
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,560
each other, we would have to ask permission to be able to go into your thinking because

483
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,940
once I went into your thinking, I knew everything about you.

484
00:28:22,940 --> 00:28:23,940
There was no hiding.

485
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:25,120
You know what I mean?

486
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,200
There's nothing to hide.

487
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Do you understand what I mean?

488
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000
There's nothing there at all to hide.

489
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,280
I think that word holiness comes with that.

490
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,960
I always say to be pure, but it really is to be holy.

491
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
When you're holy, you have nothing to hide.

492
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,000
And so everything in heaven is holy, so that if I go into your thinking, you're not trying

493
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,600
to hide something from me or shield it because you don't want me to think about it or know

494
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,980
that about you.

495
00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:58,920
And so when I go in, I see the pureness of who you are.

496
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,280
But again, I can't just do it to do it.

497
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,480
You understand what I mean?

498
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600
God still gives you the right to say no.

499
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,120
No one says no.

500
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,680
But God still gives you the right to choose whether a person comes in or communicates inside

501
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200
or not.

502
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:25,600
So everybody still has that right to say, no, I'm not letting you in.

503
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,840
It's hard to get people to understand that thinking does not come about because no one

504
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080
thinks any bad things.

505
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,080
Does that make sense to you?

506
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Right.

507
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,080
There's nothing to hide.

508
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,080
There's nothing to hide.

509
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,240
And so I remember when communicating, most of it was in my direction because I was more

510
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,560
receiving than giving out.

511
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,760
You know, I always think when you go to heaven, you're going to find out you're not going

512
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,320
to be giving out as much as you're going to be receiving.

513
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,800
And it isn't because you're new there.

514
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,800
It's just that you find out receiving, you know what I mean?

515
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,300
Because people are going to want to receive.

516
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:02,120
People are going to want to serve you.

517
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,600
People are going to want to give to you.

518
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,460
You got to love coming from the Father.

519
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:09,360
You got to love coming from Jesus, the Holy Spirit residing on the inside of you.

520
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,360
And it's all coming.

521
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,960
You're giving out, but you give out a lot less than what you receive.

522
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,900
You receive a whole lot.

523
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:21,040
And so I remember being there and when things were to communicate to me, and everything

524
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200
can communicate with you.

525
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,760
And so, you know, everything can.

526
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,360
So I wanted to say that I try to get people to understand, you know, Nehemiah, the ninth

527
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,620
chapter, I think it's six verses, everything's alive.

528
00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:36,800
And I know it sounds really pretty.

529
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,540
And people said, oh, this is very good.

530
00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:40,820
But the reality, everything's alive.

531
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:46,880
And so in saying that to you, when the communication came my direction, I always felt embraced

532
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,680
at the same moment.

533
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Abraceness that like, this is fellowship.

534
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,480
You understand what I mean?

535
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,860
It's not just we're just talking to be, you know, talking about the weather or talking

536
00:30:57,860 --> 00:30:58,960
about anything.

537
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,940
We are literally connected and fellowshiping in that moment.

538
00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:08,680
And it was a great satisfaction with everything in heaven to have that ability to be that

539
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,360
pure and that pure toward me in communicating like that.

540
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,680
You know, I think sometimes when we're reading the Word of God, that's the way that God wants

541
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,340
to get across to us.

542
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:26,320
He wants it to be that pure so that that fellowship would be that strong in reading the Word of

543
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,160
God, you know, our absorbing the Word of God, our hearing the Word of God.

544
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,880
It's more than just anything.

545
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,840
So that was really something to see there when I was there, that the power of our thoughts

546
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,640
and how powerful they are to this day.

547
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,140
Even I saw the planet.

548
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:48,320
And then the know that when I look at my brothers and sisters and their praise in the Lord,

549
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640
it's going outward and inward in the eternity.

550
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Beautiful.

551
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040
You know, I just shake my head on that one.

552
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,320
I just think, oh man, if we could really grasp that.

553
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,700
But I bet me and you would talk again, there'll be something that comes to your mind.

554
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:07,160
And more of this would be even come clear when you read certain things.

555
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,720
I found that out in myself reading the Word of God and listen, there it is.

556
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,160
They're saying it.

557
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,920
You know, very small statement doesn't mean anything to anybody because it seems like

558
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,720
as a part of the sentence.

559
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,000
But in reality, one or two of those words are describing something that God has created

560
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,920
in a way.

561
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,840
So that's one of the things that when you started out talking about the family and me

562
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,520
putting that book together is that, yeah, I'm supposed to write a series of 10 books.

563
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,520
I've got five done.

564
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,400
I've got five to go.

565
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,160
One of them is Meeting Family in Heaven.

566
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,680
I don't know if that'll be the title of it, but it's there.

567
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,360
And it is one of the shadows that we get of how heaven operates.

568
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,840
How God tells the family to operate on the planet is not, I'm just saying that for the

569
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,800
planet, this is the model from heaven.

570
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,800
Oh, yeah.

571
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,800
You know?

572
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Yeah.

573
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,800
One of the things, and let's go into this one because I think you could go a little

574
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,320
bit deeper.

575
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,060
Everybody has a color in heaven.

576
00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:13,760
When you get to heaven, your family has a color.

577
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Oh, cool!

578
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Yeah.

579
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,820
There's the light that's shining out of us, and it's bright, and it's white, but it's

580
00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:24,520
also got a color to it.

581
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,920
And when I got back and I thought about it, I thought, whoa, that was weird.

582
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,820
Because everybody had a different color.

583
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:38,640
And families were even identified by color.

584
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:45,600
And then I came and reading the Bible, and I'm reading about the breastplate of the priest.

585
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,560
And every one of those jewels represented a different color for the tribes.

586
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,560
Yes.

587
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Every tribe had its own color.

588
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,560
That's true.

589
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680
And I thought to myself, here it is again.

590
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,960
God taking something the way it is operating in heaven and literally putting it here on

591
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:08,020
the planet, but we don't realize the significance of what is being done there.

592
00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:13,240
Because those colors, each of them are not just colored like we're just coloring you.

593
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:18,760
It's really identifying your place in the family of God.

594
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Yeah.

595
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,680
And it's interesting too that not only did each tribe have its own color in the breastplate

596
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:33,800
of the high priest, but there were three tribes that would camp on each side of the tabernacle.

597
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:40,320
So like in the south was Reuben and Simeon and Gad, I think are the ones that went together.

598
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,320
And I was just looking at this yesterday.

599
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,580
I think it was Judah and Issachar and Zebulun were together.

600
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:55,740
But anyway, each three would come under a banner of those three tribes.

601
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:58,480
So one of them had the face of a man on it.

602
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,860
One of them had an ox on it.

603
00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:01,600
One had a lion.

604
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,060
And wow.

605
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:04,060
What was the other one?

606
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:05,060
Was it an eagle?

607
00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:06,060
Yes, I think maybe.

608
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:07,060
Eagle, I think.

609
00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:08,060
I think maybe it was an eagle.

610
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:09,060
Yeah.

611
00:35:09,060 --> 00:35:10,060
Let me just double check that.

612
00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:13,060
It means it's time to go back and review.

613
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:14,060
Yeah.

614
00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:17,320
And I'm embarrassed because I was just looking at it two days ago.

615
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680
I was working on the tribes book.

616
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Gwenshaw wrote a book about the tribes of Israel and how as we as Gentile believers have been

617
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,200
grafted into Israel, well, Israel is tribal.

618
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,100
So each of us have individually been grafted into a tribe.

619
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:42,160
And she does a tremendous study on what are the characteristics of each tribe and what's

620
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,480
the color and what's the banner and what's the symbol and then where they are placed

621
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,200
around the camp, camped around the tabernacle.

622
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,880
And it's interesting the ones that get along the best, God put them together, those three

623
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,880
tribes.

624
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,280
And it's like there are people in the body of Christ that you know they belong in the

625
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,280
body of Christ.

626
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,280
Right.

627
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,240
But it's like there's no intimate fellowship there.

628
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:11,700
It's like in the body, your elbow doesn't ever fellowship with your ear.

629
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:13,040
It just doesn't happen.

630
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Does not happen.

631
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,000
But without your elbow, you know, your finger can't get to your ear.

632
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Right, right.

633
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,280
But it's interesting how God would camp them across from each other.

634
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960
They wouldn't get along.

635
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,680
It's like Benjamin and Manasseh and Ephraim were together.

636
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Wow.

637
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Because they're the three sons of Rachel.

638
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Okay.

639
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
So they were together on one side of the camp.

640
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
So you know, just things like that.

641
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:48,520
So I suspect that from what you saw, that you would see family, but maybe there's some

642
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:55,280
other level that there's also some kind of kinship that you see in appearance.

643
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,280
I don't know.

644
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,640
We call them tribes, and I always said tribes are families.

645
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Or clans.

646
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,640
You know what I mean?

647
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Yeah.

648
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,960
And that's what you're talking about, Gwen, saying they're a tribe.

649
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,720
I would have said they're put into a family.

650
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:10,720
Okay.

651
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720
Okay.

652
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,900
And in that case, because family is the basis, there's nothing else after that.

653
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:21,480
You know, there's the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and then there's family.

654
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,760
And I would have said that significance was there, but the colors were the thing that

655
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,560
I saw.

656
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960
But no one's going around and saying, wow, you're blue.

657
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Wow, you're green.

658
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,760
You know, nothing like that.

659
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,360
But in reality, what really got me is you knew that the blues, and I say the blues,

660
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,320
they had a responsibility of doing this over here.

661
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,880
And you knew the greens were over here doing something, and the purple was over here.

662
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,760
And there were different shades.

663
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,380
It wasn't just all blue, just one color.

664
00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:52,040
It was different shades.

665
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,280
And that's why I think you have the jewels on the breastplate, because if you take the

666
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,160
jewels and you look at them through the light, they come out in different shades.

667
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,920
It's not just one shade of blue.

668
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Okay?

669
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Sure.

670
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,180
The light makes all kinds of shades of blue because it's shining through the light.

671
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:10,800
And that's what you would have.

672
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120
You would have different shades of blue.

673
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,640
I really believe, even if we look a little bit deeper, maybe someone else out there can

674
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,720
do this.

675
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,080
Look at that breastplate and really think about that jewel.

676
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,040
What does that jewel really represent?

677
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,160
And go as deep as they can in finding that out.

678
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,000
And they'll find the pureness of heaven in that, whatever it is.

679
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Sometimes we just look at the jewel because we have a lot, and we don't do the background

680
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,440
work on finding out what does that really represent, just like you were talking about

681
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,000
the three different tribes and how they were set up and the different.

682
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,680
I got a notion that eagle really meant something different in the heavenly realm.

683
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,960
It's in the Bible somewhere, probably.

684
00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,800
But then that would say that whole tribe or that family was in that realm to do that.

685
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,600
You know, whatever that eagle was representing.

686
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Does that make sense to you?

687
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,200
I'm wondering, because I don't remember the other banner, if the other one is eagle, but

688
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,640
aren't those the same symbols for the living creatures that had those appearances?

689
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Yeah, there was ox, and then there was a man's face, there was an eagle, and then there was

690
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,200
a lion.

691
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Yeah, those are the same.

692
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,340
Those are the four.

693
00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:29,000
And then you have creatures in Revelation.

694
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,960
They're not connected like those were, the four faces, but they also were separate, but

695
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,440
they had those four on them.

696
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:44,400
And it would be interesting to look at that from a heavenly point of view.

697
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,600
What does this really represent?

698
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,840
And I think probably me and you talking about it as we talked about earlier, the people

699
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,240
are ready for it now.

700
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,240
Yeah.

701
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,980
You know, it's not to bring something weird into the world.

702
00:39:55,980 --> 00:40:01,600
It's really to bring more power into us so that we could, the world is getting evil,

703
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000
and it's getting evil every day, and we're seeing that, and it's deteriorating, and that's

704
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,320
why it's getting evil.

705
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,120
So God has already put something in place to counteract the evil.

706
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,720
Does that make sense?

707
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:13,720
Absolutely.

708
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:20,480
And the more, like understanding that when you praise out, something is going in, because

709
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,280
it's really coming from inside as well.

710
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,280
Yes.

711
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,000
You know, there's something that is stirred up in thought that has become words.

712
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,560
How much of that is actually inspired by the Holy Spirit in the first place?

713
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Yes.

714
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,200
It's going from the inside.

715
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,400
It's going both directions.

716
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,760
And I just, you just said something.

717
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,880
I think I had a dream, and in my dream this week, probably last night, I'm praising the

718
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Lord.

719
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,240
But I'm not outward saying it.

720
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,240
It's all inside.

721
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,240
Mm hmm.

722
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,240
You know?

723
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,600
So I said, well, it's just a dream.

724
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,560
I guarantee you, my father took that praise and took it.

725
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,600
He didn't say, oh, you're sleeping.

726
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,480
I'm not going to listen to you right now.

727
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:09,960
He took the praise that I had on the inside in praising Him in that moment, and He took

728
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960
it.

729
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,960
You know?

730
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,520
To Him, it was just as real as if I spoke it out loud.

731
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Mm hmm.

732
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,520
You know?

733
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
It may have been even more real since it's on the inside.

734
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,920
Yes.

735
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Yes.

736
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Spirit to spirit communication.

737
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,400
Yes.

738
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,880
And so, in saying that to you, you know, that was the inward part of it.

739
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,040
But again, even talking to you now, and I got these visions going through my head of

740
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,160
seeing this.

741
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,600
So as I'm talking to you, I'm seeing these things.

742
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,080
And one thing I'm seeing about the colors and relating it back to the breastplate that

743
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,720
was on the priest was this.

744
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,760
There was an inner part of that color.

745
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,760
You understand?

746
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,300
I mean, there was something in that color that was alive.

747
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:59,880
And I believe the breastplate probably represents something about the life that was inside of

748
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:00,880
those colors.

749
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,880
Sure.

750
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,880
You know?

751
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,440
It's more than head knowledge.

752
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,440
It's heart knowledge.

753
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,440
Yes.

754
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440
And I think that's a key to open up.

755
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,780
Dean, you know, you could be more effective by knowing that as you're going out sharing

756
00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:20,120
the gospel, are doing the things that God wants you to do in the kingdom right now.

757
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,600
And so I've been getting excited about just telling you because I'm seeing it.

758
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:32,000
I'm seeing the creations of God which were to redeem and the colors that were going on.

759
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,520
There were so many colors.

760
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Wow.

761
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,520
That's just amazing.

762
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Sharon, I never thought about taking that jewel out and shining through it, and it has

763
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,720
multiple colors coming out of it.

764
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:43,720
Wow.

765
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:44,720
It's interesting too.

766
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:49,280
I've heard different teachings about the Urim and the Tumim, the Urim and Tumim.

767
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,280
Yes.

768
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Those other two stones besides the one that represents each tribe.

769
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Lights and Perfections.

770
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Lights and Perfections.

771
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,720
Thank you, Philip.

772
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:08,760
Maybe it was that the stones for each tribe had the inscription of the name of the tribe

773
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,400
and that the lights would shine through and spell messages.

774
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,400
Wow.

775
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,400
That would be the answer.

776
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,160
You know, like when David was inquiring of the Lord.

777
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,240
And he said, bring hither the Ifad.

778
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,000
Bring hither the Ifad.

779
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,760
And like the time when he was at, I think it was Caiela or something like that, that

780
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:40,720
he got word that the people had sent word to Saul that he was with them.

781
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,640
And so he said, are they going to turn me in?

782
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,600
And the Lord said, yes, they are.

783
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120
And so he booked it out of there.

784
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,120
He laughed.

785
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,400
He wasn't waiting for that prophecy to be fulfilled.

786
00:43:53,400 --> 00:44:00,200
But I think that there must have been something to do with the way that divine, holy light

787
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,040
would shine through these things, whether it was through the, maybe there were letters

788
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:11,480
on the Urim and Tumim or maybe it was letters that were inscribed on the different tribe

789
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,480
stones.

790
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,080
I'm not sure exactly which way it worked or how it worked.

791
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,600
I'm not sure that it's really explained.

792
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:22,000
It's one of God's mysteries that keeps everybody guessing.

793
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,640
But it's historical.

794
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,000
It really happened.

795
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,320
And David was one of the few that we hear of that actually we hear the story of what

796
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800
happened with that exchange with that breastplate.

797
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Well, you're saying that takes me to the next area of that, and that's that every person

798
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,500
had their own sound, too.

799
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:47,540
So it wasn't just the colors, but a sound was coming.

800
00:44:47,540 --> 00:44:53,420
And I heard that, you know, and read that for color has sound to it.

801
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:56,040
You cannot separate the two.

802
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,880
And so that was something also that, you know, everybody resonated with their own sound.

803
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,400
That resonation of sound, if that's a word, I don't even know if that's a word, but if

804
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400
it is a word.

805
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,360
When that sound came off a person, it was always in worship of the Father.

806
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,380
It was always in worship of the Father.

807
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:22,600
It wasn't a sound that I was giving you or you were giving me.

808
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,560
It was a sound that I was giving to the Father constantly, you know, with the color that

809
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,560
I was.

810
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:36,280
You know, so think about people walking around or moving around in heaven with great joy,

811
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,280
okay?

812
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,000
And yet, their movements or their vibration coming off of them was worshiping God.

813
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Isn't that cool?

814
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Isn't that cool?

815
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Yes.

816
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000
That is so beautiful.

817
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000
That is so beautiful.

818
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,920
I got a notion that we probably wouldn't do a study on that, and maybe somebody out there

819
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,920
will even get a hold of you and give you even more information about what we're talking

820
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,040
about and how this little bitty stuff that we're talking about and how it's opening up

821
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,040
big doors.

822
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Good.

823
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,440
I really believe it's opening up big doors.

824
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,560
Like I said earlier, I really believe people are ready to hear this through global outpouring,

825
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,560
to be honest with you.

826
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,080
And that's why I think I've gotten permission to be able to communicate it through you guys.

827
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Praise God.

828
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:24,840
But I really believe that whatever there is around family, the color, the sound of a family,

829
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,240
you know, that even sounds good, the sound of a family.

830
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:29,240
Beautiful.

831
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,240
Yeah.

832
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,040
You know, that God wants people to see that.

833
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:38,200
And someone probably has already unlocked a key somewhere, but didn't know how to make

834
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,200
it fit.

835
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Oh, they didn't.

836
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,200
Do you understand what I mean?

837
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Yeah.

838
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,280
And now us talking, probably has opened up the door for someone to go, that's what that

839
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,280
is.

840
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,280
Oh, wow.

841
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,280
You know, I'm getting it.

842
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400
You know, that's what I'm hoping takes place there.

843
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,720
Because I always say when you get there, you know, your family comes to greet you in.

844
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,080
But what you do there is with family.

845
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,080
That goes with the rest of the traditions that we know from the, you know, we talk about

846
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,320
the Hebrew people, when they served in the temple, they served as family.

847
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,320
Yes.

848
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,840
Some people say women didn't serve in the temple, but they had a role they played to

849
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:18,880
make sure that if the man went into the temple, that they could do their job.

850
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,960
You know, I'm not saying that they didn't serve, but that's what some people tell me.

851
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,000
And I don't know what the fullness of it, but I can tell you that they were all family

852
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,080
when they were serving in that temple.

853
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,080
Yes.

854
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,520
And there were daughters of, I want to say, was it Heman?

855
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Just a second.

856
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,480
Let me see if I can find it.

857
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:48,240
In first Chronicles 25 verse five, verse four gives a list of the sons of Heman.

858
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:54,000
And I won't try and read all of their names, but then it says, and God gave to Heman 14

859
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
sons and three daughters.

860
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,680
All these were under the hands, all these sons and daughters were under the hands of

861
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:07,000
their father for song in the house of the Lord with symbols, salt trees and harps for

862
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,120
the service of the house of God, according to the King's order to Asaph, Yedutha and

863
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Heman.

864
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,120
This is so cool.

865
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:21,000
So, yeah, according to this, they were available for song for the Lord.

866
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,480
So yes.

867
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,080
And you know, when I came out there and I shared on worship, song is the highest, you

868
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,520
know, the highest in the sense of outward communication to the Lord.

869
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,640
So for me, you know, to hear that, they didn't have a secondary role.

870
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:45,240
They had a primary role in making sure the things were done in the temple or in the tabernacle

871
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:49,640
at the time, because song is so pure to God.

872
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,120
You know, we'll probably have to get back into that another time, which you would feel

873
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:59,600
being musicians, this would be really cool to go into that in a more deeper way, because

874
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,880
I experienced that when I was with the Father and Jesus in heaven.

875
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,840
So that's thank you, because that really helped out, because I've heard people say the other

876
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,840
way.

877
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,760
But no, that means the family does serve in the temple.

878
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,320
In heaven, as family, you are going to serve.

879
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,320
You know, you're not fighting each other.

880
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,640
You're going along.

881
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:25,800
You're using your portion of what you are to enhance the rest of the family, to be able

882
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,200
to enhance all the other families in heaven.

883
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,840
And so it's just really, it's really cool to hear that piece there.

884
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,080
I try not to get too excited, because I know what music does.

885
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,080
And so.

886
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,240
You know, another thing that's really significant to me and what you're saying is that when

887
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:52,480
I was in high school choir, our choir director always tried to put siblings as close as possible

888
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,240
to each other because their voices are similar.

889
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,120
Interesting.

890
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:04,000
See, and Philip and I, you know, our voices blend.

891
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:11,600
We know that our marriage was made in heaven, that we were connected by the Lord himself.

892
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:17,200
And the way that our voices blend together, not everybody has that, you know, but it's

893
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,520
like God made us family in order to worship him.

894
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,520
Wow.

895
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Let me go a little bit farther with what you're saying, because I used to talk a lot.

896
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,560
I don't as much as I used to, because I talked about family.

897
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,620
And I always believe God gave each family their own language to be able to communicate

898
00:50:35,620 --> 00:50:36,960
with each other.

899
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,720
And when that language is messed up, then they have a hard time communicating with each

900
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:42,720
other.

901
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:48,440
And I use people that were like a musical background and families, and that was their

902
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,440
language.

903
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,360
That was their way of communicating with each other.

904
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,520
And if that was messed up, then their communication was stopped.

905
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Now someone else, it might be numbers.

906
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,200
Someone else, it might be the electronics.

907
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,760
I got to adopt a granddaughter and I know her papa, you know what I mean?

908
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,560
She calls me Papa Dean and he's Papa.

909
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,160
But he's very mechanical with his hands.

910
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,880
I mean, he can look at something, don't have to read the manual.

911
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,880
That'd be wonderful.

912
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,400
You know, he's just that way.

913
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,120
And it just comes to him so naturally.

914
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,520
He's always been that way.

915
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Well, I'm with his granddaughter down in Corpus Christi and she got in a wreck with her car,

916
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,980
her bumper messed up.

917
00:51:27,980 --> 00:51:30,880
And so I said to her, I said, well, what's it going to cost?

918
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,920
And she said, well, I bought the parts so I can put them on myself.

919
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,920
I love it.

920
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,960
And she's 18 years of age.

921
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Okay.

922
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,760
She's 18 years of age.

923
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,640
And her mom says, yeah, she's got that mechanical thinking.

924
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,640
And so I really believe in their family, that is a way of communication.

925
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:55,200
And I think every family has that where they were, something drives them together.

926
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,480
Give you a good example, even in my family.

927
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,840
When I was growing up, my dad, yes, he was in the military, air force, but he also worked

928
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,360
with kids, with young adults, or kids, you know what I mean?

929
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,400
And even became a probation officer, you know, in the sense of supervising probation department.

930
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Well, I gravitated towards young kids, you know, in that area.

931
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:24,240
I've got two brothers that gravitated to the education area of high school.

932
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,240
Yes.

933
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,240
You understand I'm talking about?

934
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:31,800
And my older brother, he worked for NASA, but he had programs for young kids in NASA.

935
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,440
And we didn't grow up with our extended family.

936
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:40,000
You know, we go and visit them, but we didn't have cousins or aunts and uncles around us.

937
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,180
And I'm looking at our extended family.

938
00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:46,280
And as I'm looking at our extended family a few years ago, I found out my grandpa was

939
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,280
a teacher.

940
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,460
I didn't know he went to school for become a teacher.

941
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:55,480
My aunt's a teacher, you know, I knew she was a teacher, but it rubs in our family to

942
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,480
work.

943
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,480
And we're not even close together.

944
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,480
You understand?

945
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,160
I mean, we didn't even grow up in the same area, but we tend to go to working with adolescents

946
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,160
or teenagers.

947
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,800
And it was like, you know, so I kind of believe our language is linked to that in our family.

948
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,600
Even my mother, and I didn't know this, you know, until I, she's 90 years old, and I was

949
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,160
taking her history down, you know, because I wanted to make sure I know some things about

950
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,160
her.

951
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,480
And I didn't know she was driven toward those type of things also until I took her.

952
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,680
But in our family, we were, so I believe that's what families, there's a language in that

953
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,600
family, something that they do common and maybe a secondary language.

954
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,640
You know, I think it's just that one, but there may be one, two, or three different

955
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,160
languages that go throughout the family to be able to communicate with their family.

956
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,980
And when that's broken or lost, then you lose communication in the family, you know?

957
00:53:50,980 --> 00:53:57,120
So I just, I wonder that because you know, you look at when Moses was asking people to

958
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:03,360
build the tabernacle and people were gifted certain things and their families were gifted

959
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,360
that way.

960
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,360
That's true.

961
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,360
That's true.

962
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,360
It's interesting.

963
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,920
It's interesting the one that God picked, that he told Moses to go and get this young

964
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:20,120
man that is the son of the daughters from the tribe of Dan to do the artwork in the

965
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,120
tabernacle.

966
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,400
And do you remember his name, Philip?

967
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,080
No, I don't remember the name.

968
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Well, I don't want to take time.

969
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,760
But anyway, it's what you said that it's a family thing that God identified him by his

970
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,760
family.

971
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,760
Yes.

972
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,760
Interesting.

973
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,760
Yeah.

974
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,440
I'm just sharing those things with you, Sharon, because as we talk more about this, you know,

975
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,080
starting out with the thoughts and everything and it's how they go into the family area.

976
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,200
But this is what I experienced with the Father and Jesus in heaven.

977
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,840
And I really believe I'll go back and reiterate it one more time.

978
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,960
I really believe God is saying it's time for that information to get out.

979
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,800
It's different than some of my friends are giving out about their stuff.

980
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,160
But that's what they're called to do.

981
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,240
I'm called to take this information that I experienced there and really almost filter

982
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,240
it through what you know.

983
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:10,240
That's interesting.

984
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,040
It's fun to go back and forth.

985
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:17,160
But I want to just make a comment about the dyslexia that God said is normal for you.

986
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:24,320
I believe that there's something about the way that you are recalling and processing

987
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,760
what you saw there that enables you to communicate in a way that others don't.

988
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,400
They might be able to read normally.

989
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:38,080
They might be able to communicate in a different way and have different things that they do.

990
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:45,720
But he's using you with your unique set of communication skills and reading skills and

991
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:46,880
whatever.

992
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,440
He's using you in a way that he can't use them.

993
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,440
Yeah.

994
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,240
And you're correct about that because he told me this and I didn't say that earlier.

995
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,440
He said, I needed you to see things in pictures.

996
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,440
That's what he said.

997
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,840
And I was already, my fleshly mind was already trained to do that.

998
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,280
So when I came back with what I had, I could see it in pictures because I didn't have a

999
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,320
resistance for my fleshly mind trying to reorientate to see it a different way.

1000
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,320
Wow.

1001
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,320
Does that make sense?

1002
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,320
Yeah, that's true.

1003
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,080
And so he said to me, I needed you to see it in pictures.

1004
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,080
That was his answer.

1005
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,240
He said, nothing wrong with you.

1006
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,400
I needed you to see it in pictures.

1007
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:35,080
And now I find ways to communicate it in the English language because I know English.

1008
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,840
I'm learning Spanish.

1009
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:49,440
But the reality of it is that I still, even talking to you where we're talking, I see

1010
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,040
all that in pictures, everything we've talked about, but every bit of it is so vivid in

1011
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,000
my sight.

1012
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,960
As I'm even looking at you, I'm still seeing those things in pictures.

1013
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,840
And I cannot get them out of my mind and being able to see them that way because that's what

1014
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,840
he said.

1015
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Even when I, I'll give you a good example, when I pray for a person, I always see myself

1016
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,680
going to my father.

1017
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,880
And I'm standing before him and he's looking at me and I literally say, Father, I come

1018
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,680
here to talk to you about, and in your case, I would say, your daughter.

1019
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,740
That's what I'm picturing because I remember being before him.

1020
00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:36,840
And I see myself standing before him and say, I'm coming here talking, I want to talk to

1021
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,840
you about your daughter.

1022
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,840
Beautiful.

1023
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:44,240
And he always says, you know, lets me know, he acknowledges this is his daughter.

1024
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,460
He always says this is his daughter.

1025
00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:50,440
That's why when I pray for people, I say, I know she's your daughter, or I'll say something

1026
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,040
because that's the way he acknowledges that person.

1027
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:59,400
And then as I'm praying for them, I see myself communicating with him.

1028
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,220
He's downloading things inside of me.

1029
00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:06,920
Some of the things he's saying, go ahead and share, and some of the things he's not.

1030
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,840
Some of the things that he's saying to me is, I want you to pray about this.

1031
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,240
He's literally telling me how to pray over his daughter.

1032
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,240
Wow.

1033
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Beautiful.

1034
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Beautiful.

1035
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,240
And I'm so amazed by it.

1036
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,900
Someone says, oh, you don't understand.

1037
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:27,600
It's him giving me the words in the sense of the pictures on how to pray over his daughter.

1038
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,600
He'll show me things.

1039
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,000
Wow, that's beautiful.

1040
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,680
And I'll be wowed because I'm experiencing that at that moment, you know, of having that.

1041
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:42,240
When I was praying earlier about the things that Phil was going through and everything,

1042
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,800
he was showing me, this is how I want you to pray about that.

1043
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,800
Beautiful.

1044
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,120
You know, it isn't just didn't come up with your own wisdom, your own knowledge.

1045
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,520
And what I saw was outside of my thinking.

1046
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,720
So that's why I had to say, your hand be in it, or you're touching it, because it was

1047
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,920
outside of my thinking.

1048
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,600
I did not have the human words to express what I was seeing.

1049
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Does that make sense?

1050
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,600
Mm-hmm.

1051
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,560
But he was showing me what to do.

1052
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,560
Beautiful.

1053
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,560
You know?

1054
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,720
And so, just to let you know that, and people may say, why does he do that for you?

1055
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,760
Because he will not go across his boundaries of what he said.

1056
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,580
He's given us the responsibility on this planet, and he won't go across those without us asking

1057
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:25,120
him to come and do it.

1058
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Is that cool?

1059
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,120
That is tremendous.

1060
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,120
Amen.

1061
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,160
And he gave me in Jesus' name, you know, that's because he put that up there.

1062
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,080
He's just waiting for us to ask sometimes.

1063
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,080
Yeah.

1064
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Wow.

1065
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,440
Because he gave man the authority over the earth.

1066
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,440
That's correct.

1067
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,160
He gave man the authority over the earth.

1068
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
And that hasn't changed since Adam.

1069
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,120
Yeah.

1070
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Yeah.

1071
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,840
Well, it's been really good to be able to communicate and talk like this.

1072
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,840
Yes.

1073
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,840
This has been wonderful.

1074
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:56,880
So, just before we close, would you ask the Father how to pray for our listeners?

1075
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,400
Yeah.

1076
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Father, thank you right now.

1077
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,400
First, thank you for each and every person that's listening.

1078
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,960
Thank you that you answered questions for people today, that people have had in their

1079
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,960
heart.

1080
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,520
And yes, I see that.

1081
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,600
That they had in their heart, and they just didn't know if it was even correct to be able

1082
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,960
to thank the way they were thanking.

1083
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,880
The day you have literally confirmed to them that the role that they're on and the thanking

1084
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,360
that they have is a heavenly thanking.

1085
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,440
And so, Lord, I thank you right now that you're going to show them.

1086
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,800
Yes, Lord, you're going to show them in your Word where it is.

1087
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,440
And there's those that have read your Word, Lord, that are going to say, yes, now I understand

1088
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,800
where the next step should be in this area.

1089
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,720
I thank you for sharing and feel it.

1090
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,400
I thank you, Lord, that this, yes, I see that, that this ministry is held in your hands.

1091
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Yes, I see that, Lord.

1092
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,520
And that you, yes, are coughing your hands to protect it.

1093
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,520
It is yours.

1094
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,760
It's always been yours.

1095
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,240
And no one will be able to take it out of your hands.

1096
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:07,480
I thank you, Father, in the name of Jesus, that you're not, yes, I see that, Father,

1097
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,600
that you're not done with it.

1098
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:15,360
And that this ministry of global outpouring will be exactly what it is.

1099
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,360
Wow!

1100
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,440
Glory will come because of global outpouring.

1101
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,520
Wow, Lord, that is good news.

1102
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,520
Thank you, Father.

1103
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,960
In the name of your Son, Jesus, amen.

1104
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,140
Amen.

1105
01:01:27,140 --> 01:01:29,260
Thank you so much for being with us today.

1106
01:01:29,260 --> 01:01:31,360
This has been just marvelous.

1107
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,280
And we look forward to the next time that we can do this again.

1108
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,440
Yes, we'll do it again because I'm excited because I've got more things I want to discuss

1109
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,440
with you.

1110
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Okay.

1111
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,320
You know, there's a number of things that come to my mind as I'm talking to you.

1112
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Glory to God.

1113
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,320
Sure, it has a list.

1114
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,840
I have a long list.

1115
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,440
We'll look forward to the next time, and thank you so much.

1116
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,440
God bless you.

1117
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,440
God bless you.

1118
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,640
Thank you.

1119
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:06,600
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01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,680
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01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:22,600
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1125
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