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April 16, 2024
(208) “Victorious Over Fear” with Shirley Smith and Patricia Arenas
“The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion.” Proverbs 28:1 ESV
The Busses are joined by two very special guests, Shirley Smith and Patricia Arenas, who both have amazing experiences of walking with the Lord in hostile places. Hear exciting testimonies, stories from the mission field, and incredible insights on how you can overcome fear and learn to walk in boldness in your identity in Christ.
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Podcast Episode 206: “Where Do You Run for Refuge?”
Podcast Episode 207: “Delivered from Fear”
Podcast Episode 54: Crazy Prophetic Intercession and Amazing Responses from God with Shirley Smith
Podcast Episode 84: "Cancer! The High Cost of Unforgiveness" with Shirley Smith Part 1
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Transcript
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How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger
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victories?
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Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us.
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And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war and he's going to be there with
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us.
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And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion.
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God promises in Joel 2, 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity.
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Welcome to Global Outpouring.
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Are we content for that promise outpouring?
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We equipped for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring.
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I'm Philip Buss.
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And I'm Sharon Buss.
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Welcome to the podcast today.
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We have with us two very special guests, dear, dear friends of ours, Shirley Smith and Patricia
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Arenas.
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And they're going to be sharing with you their experiences in how to be victorious over fear.
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Thank you so much for joining us today.
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We look forward to this podcast.
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This is going to be a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to hear from some victorious people
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how to be victorious.
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So Patricia.
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Yes.
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And Shirley, Mama Shirley, we call you Mama Shirley.
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We welcome you both to this podcast, for Global Outpouring Podcast.
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It is a pleasure to have you with us today.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I know that both of you are very experienced in walking in places that are, how shall I
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say, a bit risky, perhaps?
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Hostile.
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Yes, even hostile.
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Yes.
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And so, you know, you've been walking with the Lord for quite a while and the Lord has
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taught you some things.
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So Mama Shirley, we'll start with you.
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Can you tell us something about how you overcame fear?
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We did a podcast with you quite some time ago and we'll put a link to that.
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I'll just refer to a couple of stories that you told on that about how your dad was insistent
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to teach you not to fear and to teach you how to trust him by making you jump off the
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roof repeatedly into his arms.
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And he always caught you.
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So you learned that you could trust and you've learned to trust your heavenly father that
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way.
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Exactly.
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And something about the alligator.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He was a hunter and well, he had a market for frog legs.
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And so we frog-hunted a lot and he had, well, he just liked the missing way of the gators.
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And so we always got, that was a challenge.
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Yeah, we always got gators too.
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And I had one for a pet and you know, it was about half grown, I guess.
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And I brought it home and he built a little pen for me to put it in.
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And I mean, my sister was in school and I was still home and I was bored.
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I was a very hyper child and it took my mom and my grandmother both to keep me entertained.
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And so yeah, and I played with the frogs and I put bonnets on them and I put little jackets
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on them and stuff like that.
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Yeah, right.
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I would put the gator, but he wouldn't be still long enough.
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So you know, I just played with what I had and I had a dog and you know, I was a tomboy.
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Yes.
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Well, you already had an older sister?
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I did.
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Okay.
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And so your dad was expecting to have a boy after a girl.
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So right, so he just tried to make me in one, into one.
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And I played that role, you know, all my life growing up.
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Because you want to please your daddy.
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Of course, of course.
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And I got lots of praise, lots of pats on the back.
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Good girl, great job.
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Good girl, good girl.
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The affirmations, you know, it puts a trust in a child.
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It puts confidence in a child.
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Makes them feel loved and accepted.
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So I could perform whatever he wanted to do.
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I could do it.
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Yeah.
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Including fighting in school.
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You remember everything.
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Oh, I remember that.
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I remember you said you were mean as a snake when you were in school.
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Well, yeah, he did.
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He taught me to fight and he would tell me, you know, if those boys on that bus when I
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was a young teen and the boys want to pick at you because they like you, but they want
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to pull your hair away and didn't take much to upset me.
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And I mean, my temper was real short.
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So I get in a fight with them and my dad said, if you come home and those boys, they beat
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you up, you know, what's going to happen to you?
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I'm going to beat you up too.
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I want you to fight until you see blood.
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And that's what I did.
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And I was in the principal's office a lot.
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I know you've made the devil bleed a lot.
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Yeah, right.
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And I, well, you know what I did?
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I just transferred all that over from the natural into the spirit realm.
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Right.
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And that really made it a lot easier because I began to understand what warfare was like
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and why we had warfare and how we overcome in warfare.
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We don't cringe and scared to death, you know, oh, I can't.
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Oh, shut up.
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You can too.
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You know, I just sat in and have patience with people that didn't, that was fearful.
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Or I would say, give me a scripture says you can't do that.
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Oh, I've told my team because, you know, I had a youth team for years.
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I say, give me a scripture says that you can't do that.
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Oh, my.
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That's good.
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Look at that.
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And they didn't have one.
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Because there isn't one.
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Right.
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And I said, okay, let me give you one that you can do that.
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And that was, I did a lot of teaching like that.
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That's good training.
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Very good training.
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Very good training.
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It's like a hands on training.
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Yes, it is.
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That's good, mama.
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So Patricia, what kind of things did you go through as a child that prepared you for the
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kind of work that you do in the Lord now?
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Awesome.
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Thank you for asking, and it's not as dangerous as mama Shirley.
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I didn't have those kind of pets.
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And I was called princess.
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Oh, so I was the princess of the house.
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But you know, when I went to elementary school, you know, it was a little different for me
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because I was the short one.
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I was like almost like the runt.
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Okay.
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So when there's always short ones or, you know, they're just are smaller than everyone
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else, they kind of pick on you.
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Yeah, you get to.
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And as you get older, they become bullies.
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Right.
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And you have to learn how to fight for yourself.
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And being the princess, I really didn't.
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I always had my older sisters, you know, because I didn't have any older brothers.
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And I had this one sister who was there to come to my rescue.
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And she thank God, you know, I learned from her.
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But what happened, you know, when I came to the Lord, prior to that, and it was through
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my sister, she joined the army.
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She was tough.
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She was the tough one.
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And of course, you know, she went to the little sister and she said, Well, do you want to
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join the army too?
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And I knew that if she's there, you know, I would be okay.
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So of course, I joined and we're not together.
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Right.
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So of course, I was 17.
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My mother and father had to sign for me to go.
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Wow.
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I hadn't even finished high school yet.
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So of course you go and all of a sudden, there's a lot of bullies there too.
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Oh, yeah.
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And you have to learn how to fight and fight for yourself.
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And I didn't have the older sister now.
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Right.
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And they teach you and they train you, but they teach you how to be rough and how to
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think quickly on your feet, you know, and make wise decisions.
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And they teach you and train you in the military, because you have to know your enemies, right?
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You need to know who they are.
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But you also need to know who are your buddies.
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And you have to learn to work together.
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And through all of that, when I came to the Lord, almost gosh, I was probably 36 when
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I met the Lord.
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And he had to teach me how to do spiritual warfare.
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Okay.
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And a lot of things I understood through my background in the military, but he also had
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to unteach me something.
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That's typical.
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So it's very typical.
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But he taught me through the word of God, how to take authority, what to do in those
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situations because you're battling an enemy that you normally don't see.
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Right.
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You learn of him through the word of God and you know that there is an adversary.
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And we need to be taught by the Holy Spirit how to fight.
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Right.
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Amen.
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And he does it well.
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And if he could do that for me, the runt, he can surely do it for all of us.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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And we did a podcast with you before, so we'll also put a link to that one so that our listeners
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can go back and catch some more of your story and how you came to the Lord and so on.
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But we're talking today, it really was not our intention to start a series, but we kind
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of did.
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And we started out two episodes ago with this message about where do you run for refuge?
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And of course, we run to the Lord.
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Absolutely.
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And then our last episode was delivered from fear.
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And so I just felt like we probably just needed to bang on this anvil one more time.
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Let's do it.
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Let's beat this horseshoe into shape.
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Come on.
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So Thomas Shirley, tell us something about things in your experience that have been training
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for you in the spirit realm, things that you had to overcome in order to have a victory
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over fear and whatever it is that the Lord has put on your heart here.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, there was two things.
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One came earlier before I really knew the word.
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And I always thought that the Old Testament was just history, didn't have anything to
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do with us today.
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And the book of Psalms sound nice, but I didn't know how to appropriate the word because in
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the church I was in, they preach but don't teach.
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So I didn't really have any teaching or any grounding in the word.
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And so my husband worked shift work at the hospital.
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I was home a lot of times with my daughters.
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And I didn't realize until later that the Lord was allowing this to happen to teach
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me.
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But while he was at work, and at nighttime, and people would flash flashlights through
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my windows, they would drag chains on my sidewalk.
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Oh my goodness.
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I would get I would get really bad phone calls late at night with threatening and just bad
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stuff.
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And I would just be petrified, petrified.
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In the summertime, I wouldn't even turn the air conditioner on, we'd lay there and my
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two daughters was we had a big king size bed.
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And they would sleep with me and I would fan us until we the girls fell asleep.
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Because I was so fearful.
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I wouldn't turn the air conditioner on because I couldn't hear anybody if they broke in.
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That's what fear is torment.
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Yes, it is.
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It's torment.
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So I was oh, I was so tired of that.
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So one night I went to Wednesday night I went over to an assembly of God church.
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And there was a lady Methodist evangelist wife that was there.
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And she was saying that her husband was gone a lot because he's an evangelist.
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And that she was very fearful and she was left alone and they had a boy in the neighborhood
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that was mental.
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And it came to borrow one match from her.
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And she was just petrified.
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And the Lord took her to Psalms 91.
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Oh, yeah.
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Which I never realized 91 was in there, you know.
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And so she's talking about how God delivered her from fear.
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Well, in my neighborhood, we had a boy in our neighborhood that was mental.
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He walked in the neighborhoods during the nighttime and he was a peeping Tom.
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So that's what I could relate to her.
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Okay, I could relate to it.
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Yeah.
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And that was the thing about the windows.
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And I could relate to what she was and I got very religious.
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I said, now, listen, I am not Methodist, but I am an A.O.G.
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I know that if you're going to give that to her, this is religious pride.
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And I said, I know you'll let me use it too.
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So I started using that and it started working.
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Glory to God.
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Wow.
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This really, really works.
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There was a test that came after I began to learn who I was and my authority.
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And you had to call on the Lord.
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But anyway, it got really bad.
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I got a lot of bad phone calls late at night because I was alone and with just my daughters.
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And so these guys would call and tell me they were coming over.
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My husband was gone.
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All the things they wanted to do.
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And I would just shake again.
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That was the second trying time, you know.
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And then Brother Hagen, I began to listen to him about our authority as a believer,
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you know, and he began to talk about different types of spirits and how they operated and
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how they would speak to you and how they would threaten you and what the nature of those
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spirits were.
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And I thought, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that one.
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I know that one, you know.
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And so I began to identify with what he was teaching and the scriptures that he gave
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us to go with that.
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And so I was getting ready.
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And I thought, oh, he just calls again.
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And so I told my husband, I said, he's fixing to change shifts.
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And I said, let's don't tell anybody that you're changing shifts and let's see if I
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get a phone call.
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So we had a neighbor across the street that asked him to come and ride with him.
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He was in flight training to come ride with him while he was picking up some hours.
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And my husband said, I really don't have time.
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And he kept pressuring him and pressuring him.
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And James said, well, I have this to do and that to do.
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And finally, James said, I changed shifts at four and I just can't do it.
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I don't have time.
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He was the only one who knew that James was changing shifts.
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He was gone about 20 minutes to work.
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And I got the phone call.
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Wow.
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By then I had learned a few things.
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And I said, yeah, come on over, come on over.
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I'm waiting on you because you have a spirit of lust and I've got the spirit of God and
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I got that knowing I'm going to cast that thing out of you.
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And that was it.
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Oh, you talking about heyday.
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Oh, Lord.
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Because I had done learned that I had got him give me a spirit of fear, but power, love
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and a sound mind.
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That's right.
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And so, honey, I didn't get any more phone calls.
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Wow, glory to God.
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So I just conquered fear just one at a time.
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Because these tests kept coming and I didn't know God was getting me ready for bandits,
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you know, in Mexico and all the wild stuff.
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But he did.
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He was already had me in training and right there in my own house.
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That's right.
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And so that's the way I started out with this.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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Now you can't refer to that and not tell us that story.
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So what happened with bandits in Mexico?
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I loved it.
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That's so powerful.
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It was great.
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It was powerful.
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Well, my father, like I said, was a very strict disciplinarian.
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And so when I met the man who was the head of the Bible school in Monterey, he was just
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like my father, but he was a spiritual man.
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And he would just jerk me up and tell me you're going to do this.
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And I said, No, I'm not.
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And he said, Yes, you are.
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And one night we was in a bull ring and in Cataracta.
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But not with a bull?
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No, not with a bull.
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But he had rented the bull ring.
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Okay, I wanted to clarify.
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It's different animals.
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No one would have doubted me if he'd had a bull in there.
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I'll tell you.
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Because he was just that dynamic and just that bold and just that daring.
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He was like my daddy, but spiritual.
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So it was for a crusade?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he just rented it and had an evangelistic meeting.
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He brought a lot of the students that came along that night.
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And so you never knew when you were going to speak.
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So you always had to be prepared.
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So when we got there, he said, Sister Smith, you're preaching tonight.
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Okay.
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And so I got the microphone.
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He said, No, give me the mic.
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And he said, Before you start, he said, There's a man who is demon possessed.
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And he said, I told the pastors that we would pray for him before the meeting started.
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So we're going to pray for him.
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I said, Well, I'm not.
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And he said, Oh, yes, you are.
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And I said, Oh, no, I'm not.
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I don't know anything about that.
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And I'm not doing it.
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And he said, Don't you ever tell me that.
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Don't you ever speak like that to me in my presence.
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Don't you ever show fear of a devil in my presence.
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Wow.
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And boy, he just started jerking me around with words.
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That slack out.
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And I could just hear my father.
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I'm going, Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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And so he brought the guy up, you know, and and so the guy's on the ground and I'm on
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a wooden platform.
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And so I was over just looking at him and praying, you know, and all of a sudden his
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shirt started doing this.
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Okay, so you're pulling on your shirt up and put my shirt was his shirt was moving up and
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down.
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And so I fell to the wind.
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I didn't feel any wind.
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My clothes wasn't moving.
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The students came up and they said, I don't know, I mean, sister, look, and they started
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doing their shirt.
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And they said, What is this?
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And I went, I don't know.
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And I said, Okay, God, what is what's going on?
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What is this?
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Why is his shirt moving?
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Why is his stomach jumping?
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And he said, The demons fear and tremble in my presence.
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Oh, I shouted all over the platform.
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Pastor Dawson said, settle down, settle down, settle down.
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What's going on?
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I said, Oh, you know what God said?
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And I told him and he just laughed because he was used to that, you know.
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And so we get ready to do the deliverance and the man gets his hands up and I don't
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know anything about Spanish at that time, you know.
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And so I reached up and caught his hand.
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He went, Calleante, Calleante.
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What's wrong with him?
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And so I would catch his hand again.
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And he called Calleante, which means hot, hot, hot.
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You know, I didn't realize I was grounded in him.
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He was on the ground and I was on wood and I was shucking the fire out of him and I could
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see sparks.
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You know, and I thought it was the Holy Ghost.
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I thought it was the anointing and I went, well, the anointing sure is strong tonight.
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You know, I didn't know any different.
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So I told Brother Dawson, I said, a man is saying that he's hot.
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I said, but you know, he's on the ground because I knew about electricity because my father
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taught me that.
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And I said, he's on the ground and I'm up here and I'm shocking him.
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And I said, he said, oh, that's why he's saying Calleante.
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And he just laughed and laughed and he thought that it was so funny.
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So he sent the guy back because he just lost it.
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He laughed so hard, he couldn't even get in the mood to pray anymore.
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So anyway, I preached the sermon that night and everybody came and it was, oh, it was
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so awesome.
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It was like popcorn.
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The healings were like popcorn.
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Glory to God.
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They were so fast, you couldn't even record it.
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Wow.
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And, and I remember this one lady just grabbed me.
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Her knees was all messed up and I prayed and God healed her and she picked me up and
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tried to start walking around with me.
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Almost dropped me and I grabbed the stage.
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And by the time I looked at Brother Dawson, he's six, four.
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He's great, big, tall, slim.
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He leaped off the platform.
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There was three men with crutches and he grabbed one and took off running.
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I'm thinking, oh, lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit.
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That's American thinking, you know?
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And so, and so he just kept running.
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He, he come back around and turned him loose and the man kept running.
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He went back and grabbed the other one.
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He took off running with him, did the same thing.
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All three men got healed.
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Oh my God.
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That's the kind of miracles I got exposed to.
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So my faith was just quickly developed and just over the top.
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Oh yeah.
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So I had all that under my belt before I ever went to the mountains.
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Okay.
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And that's where the bandits were.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Then what happened?
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Well, on this particular trip, we were going down and that Haley's Comet, y'all probably
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remember that when it was manifesting or whatever you want to call it.
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And well, you could see the gold dust kind of coming from that.
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You remember that Haley's Comet?
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Yeah.
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And so the Lord told me that day to watch the heavens and we looked, I did, we watched,
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we watched the comet and we got into Mexico and it was real, real hazy over Monterey and
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you really couldn't see anything then.
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So when we left Monterey and went on into the mountains and my husband was driving,
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it was long, long, long trip.
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And my husband was pretty heavy on accelerator anyway.
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And so we were flying through those Sierra Madre mountains and those hairpin curves.
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I mean, it was like this.
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And I remember we had a friend that she was always pleading the blood, pleading the blood.
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And I said, Barb, you've pled the blood 10 times.
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She said, shut up, Shirley, one more coat don't hurt.
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She was so scared of this trip.
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We had a lot of fun.
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Anyway, and I was, everything was flying around and Lord kept telling me, watch the heavens,
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watch.
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I said, I have it.
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I see nothing.
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What do you want me to see?
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I can see cactus.
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I can see goats and I see donkeys and I see all of this scenery.
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And I said, what do you want me to see?
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And so he said, look up.
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I looked up in the heavens.
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I saw all these white things up in the sky.
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I said, Lord, what is that?
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Oh, I shouldn't have asked.
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Zoom.
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This humongous angel comes down on the back of this white dove, like about, I don't know,
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25 or 30 foot wingspan right alongside our truck.
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Cause we had a truck with a camper on the back and us ladies put a mattress back there
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and we'd ride in the back.
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And it was right alongside our truck.
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And he had long hair.
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He had high cheek, deep set eyes.
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He had a real square chin.
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I've seen them several times since then, but I mean, his features is very distinct and
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his hair was about shoulder length and kind of semi curly.
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And he had a rain, holding the reins, then went through the mouth of the dove and he
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was just riding right alongside our vehicle.
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I was just screaming, just one scream after another.
489
00:24:53,320 --> 00:25:00,680
I was in shock and I was screaming and screaming and, and I turned and I looked at first, I
490
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,840
looked away from him because I was in shock and I looked back and he looked at me right
491
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,880
straight in the eyes and threw his head back and laughed and zoomed and went up.
492
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,200
Wow.
493
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,680
And I thought I would have a heart attack.
494
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,920
I mean, my heart pounded so hard.
495
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000
I like to have never physically got control.
496
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
And then I still didn't have my English.
497
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,840
All I could do is just, my teeth were just chattering, everything.
498
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280
And all I could do was speak in tongues, speak in tongues.
499
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,120
And I thought the English would come sooner or later and I can tell them, you know, what's
500
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,600
going on.
501
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,400
And so when finally, it took me a long time to finally, cause that was a very shocking
502
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,520
instant thing that happened that I was not expecting.
503
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,720
And so when I finally calmed down and got my English back and they were asking me what
504
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280
was wrong with me, what happened?
505
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,920
And I was trying to explain and the other lady said, Oh no, no, no, no, it was not.
506
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:00,920
It was not an angel.
507
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320
It was a Cobra snake.
508
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,320
What?
509
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320
That's what I said.
510
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,320
Cobra snake.
511
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,540
And we were going into the mouth of the, I said, no such a thing.
512
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:14,920
It was an angel on the back of a dove and we had this big difference.
513
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
And I said, okay, everybody just drop it.
514
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,280
We're not going to talk about it.
515
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,640
I don't understand it.
516
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440
We're not discussing this anymore.
517
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680
Just drop this up.
518
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440
So we did.
519
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,800
So when we got to Jose's house, whose we worked with, he was our missionary.
520
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,640
He said, well, there was no phone in the village and there's no way to ever contact him, let
521
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,640
him know when we're coming.
522
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,360
But God always gave him a vision or a dream and he always was ready when we got there.
523
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440
So he already had the horses and everything ready.
524
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
And he said, I have a new village to go to.
525
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,640
And he said, would you all go with me?
526
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,720
We said, sure, sure.
527
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,880
So we said, I got the animal.
528
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,560
So we all loaded up the next day and we were on the mules and we were going through there.
529
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:05,760
And I saw these men and they had machete knives and they had pistols on their hips and they
530
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,760
had masks on their face.
531
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040
And I thought, this is a weird looking bunch.
532
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,560
And I thought, hmm, they sure dress different here.
533
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560
That's all I thought.
534
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640
Because in different parts of Mexico, they do dress different.
535
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320
And I thought, they dress different here.
536
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,760
And I wasn't frightened.
537
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,000
I wasn't alarmed.
538
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,280
I wasn't thinking anything about it really.
539
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,040
But I thought, well, I thought the machete is, they probably cut their way through the
540
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800
woods, through the mountains here, because this is the Sierra Madres.
541
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
And I think the guns is wild animals.
542
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,400
They probably use the guns for that.
543
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,520
I could reason out why they had these weapons.
544
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,440
And so we went on in and there's a whole bunch more dressed just like them.
545
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640
And we stayed two or three days.
546
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,640
I forget how many it was.
547
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440
It was just like over a weekend.
548
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800
And so when we came back out, they were very friendly.
549
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,640
They killed a goat and made us all these delicious dishes.
550
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880
It was delicious.
551
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,120
And they gave us their beds.
552
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:13,720
And this old grandmother slept in the corn crib and let us have her bed.
553
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
That's how precious those people are.
554
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Well, so Barb Wayne slept in another one and the mattress kept rattling and rattling.
555
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440
They said, there must be corn chucks in here.
556
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
And they pulled it up and it was a leopard skin.
557
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840
Oh man, Barb freaked.
558
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Wow.
559
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Because it was a wild animal.
560
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,880
It was a leopard skin.
561
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720
But anyway, it was a lot of new things.
562
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640
We'd never encountered anything like that before.
563
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,240
And so the day we got ready to leave, well, Barb was talking to Jose and she said, Jose,
564
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,200
while we were here, you kept using the word bandito, bandito.
565
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,800
She said, were you talking about when you were abandoned and you were in prison and you
566
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,800
got saved?
567
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
You gave him your testimony and he said, no.
568
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
She said, well, were you talking about bandits?
569
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,640
And he said, no.
570
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,120
She said, well, yes, you were.
571
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,560
You kept using that word.
572
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,480
He said, no, Sister Barb, I was talking to the bandits.
573
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,480
She said, what?
574
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120
I was talking to the bandits.
575
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,120
You mean to tell me that where we just came from, those are bandits because they all had
576
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,400
bounties on their head.
577
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400
They were all wanted.
578
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,880
They'd all went back in there and built this village to escape from the law.
579
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,440
And then he told us everything, you know, all he told us all of that.
580
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,120
And so she slapped my mule and she said, run, Shirley, run.
581
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
I said, well, Barb, we've already gone and come out.
582
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,760
We didn't get killed.
583
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760
We're okay.
584
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,420
So we was riding along there on this mule and I said, God, would you explain a few things
585
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:47,420
to me?
586
00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:50,280
Would you tell me what all this is about?
587
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
And he said, remember that angel I showed you?
588
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,600
And I went, yeah.
589
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
The one I nearly had a heart attack over.
590
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920
And he said, yeah.
591
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,040
And he said, he protected you while you were there.
592
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,720
And that cobra snake was the bandits village that you went in because these are deadly
593
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720
people.
594
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720
It's like the cobra snake is.
595
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Wow.
596
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,720
That's amazing.
597
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,400
So you each saw something.
598
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Don't you love it?
599
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840
Each of you saw something that was a part of.
600
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Yeah, I saw the angel and she saw the cobra snake in the truck that night.
601
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720
And I kept, you know, I like to never got my English, but when I finally did it, I was
602
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600
trying to explain to them what I just saw.
603
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,760
She was going down and she was as upset as I was because she had just seen a cobra.
604
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,800
And so it's walking into its mouth.
605
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Wow.
606
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800
Yeah.
607
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560
They both saw what was going to happen.
608
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Yeah.
609
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,160
But you know, three months later, God called me back there again and I took a team of young
610
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,160
people.
611
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Wow.
612
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160
I did.
613
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
I'm going, God, are you sure?
614
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840
I don't know about confirmations in the word.
615
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,440
He gave me confirmations and he said, I want you to take balls.
616
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,580
I said, we are not going on vacation, Lord.
617
00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:02,040
We are going to witness.
618
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,780
We're going to preach.
619
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:05,360
We're going to be missionaries.
620
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800
And he said, take, take the balls.
621
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,400
I said, I don't have any, I don't have money to buy any because I wasn't wanting to do
622
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,400
that.
623
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,900
And he said, call the schoolhouse and they'll give you some.
624
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:17,900
I said, they don't even know me.
625
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,280
I don't have any kids to go to school.
626
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,960
But anyway, I called the school.
627
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400
They said, we're just cleaning out everything, all of our gymnasium and getting rid of all
628
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,080
of our balls and bats and stuff and getting new equipment and just come get all that you
629
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,080
want.
630
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Wow.
631
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Look at that.
632
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,680
So I got bags, got toe sacks and got bags of them, you know, put them back in the truck
633
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,000
and took them down and we tied them onto the mules and took them back into the village.
634
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Wow.
635
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
And they were so excited to see us.
636
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,680
So when we got there, they boys started playing baseball and it was a bunch of bandits.
637
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680
I guess they might've been new ones.
638
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680
They came out of nowhere.
639
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,680
I don't know.
640
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
They was way over here somewhere and they heard everybody running and hollering and
641
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720
playing and they come up and they were hanging on the fence watching, you know, and they
642
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,880
said, we want to play.
643
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,880
We want to play.
644
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,080
I was, I said, no, you don't come to service and you can't play.
645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Oh, we'll come to service.
646
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,080
That is so good.
647
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080
I love it.
648
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120
They came that night and they got saved that night.
649
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,480
Glory to God.
650
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Wow.
651
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,480
I love it.
652
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,560
I know, but I won't tell this one though, but cause this one was just crazy.
653
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600
I'm telling you, I've never done anything like it, but I wouldn't say I wouldn't do
654
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,600
it again.
655
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,600
I don't know.
656
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Just depending on how the Lord moved.
657
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,200
But when we went back, one of my boys was praying before we, before service started
658
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,680
and he said, he said, I saw a cobra snake and it was coming to the village here.
659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
And I said, that's okay.
660
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040
I never tell them what we, what happened before on the first trip.
661
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,040
I said, that's okay.
662
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800
We'll pray and God will take care of it.
663
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,880
Don't worry about it.
664
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,880
So we prayed.
665
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
And so Jose and I always dig tag teaching.
666
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760
So we had a 50 gallon drum with a cold old lamp on top.
667
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760
That was what we had for light.
668
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,720
But there was a real full moon that night and we had a lot of lights, moonlight and
669
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720
the air is crystal clear there.
670
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
I mean, there's no smile and you can see everything.
671
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,920
You even see your shadow at night.
672
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400
So Jose was preaching and then I'll preach for a while.
673
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120
And I gave it back to him and up rides these three men.
674
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,860
And the Lord said, that's the Cobra.
675
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:37,080
So we had a big long log that we didn't have enough seats for everybody.
676
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080
It was big, long, long.
677
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160
And they came and sat down.
678
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,480
I don't know what happened to me, but something just began to rise up at this righteous indignation,
679
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
this anger, whatever it was.
680
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
I said, I need the microphone.
681
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160
He looked at me like you've already had your turn, you know?
682
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160
And I said, I need the microphone.
683
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,320
He said, okay.
684
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,480
I said, follow me.
685
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,920
So we went over and I said, I got right down in their faces.
686
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Oh my.
687
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,280
I know who you are.
688
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,120
I know why you're here, but I also know that the angel of the Lord is here and will strike
689
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,120
you dead if you dare to think that you'll touch anybody in this place.
690
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,120
You understand me?
691
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Wow.
692
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600
And I hand the microphone back to him.
693
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480
He looked at me like, my God, what is sure?
694
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120
He never knew what I was going to do and I didn't either.
695
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480
So anyway, the host says, got it.
696
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480
He's preaching again.
697
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480
And I went, God, that felt good.
698
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,400
I said, I think I'll do it again.
699
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,760
I got up.
700
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440
I'm sitting back, kind of back against the building.
701
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,640
They're sitting out here on this log and I walked right up to him and he leaned back
702
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,640
like this.
703
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640
And I got right down and I said, look at me, devil, look at me.
704
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,640
You are bound.
705
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,840
You understand that you are bound and you can't touch us.
706
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840
You understand that devil?
707
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440
And he just looked at me.
708
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,440
I was trying to walk down.
709
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,400
I went and got me a drink of water and I come back and I sat down and I went, God, that
710
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,400
felt good.
711
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,960
I'm going to do it again.
712
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,480
I got up and I went back.
713
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,720
God's my witness.
714
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:18,280
And I went back and I talked to the second one and I got right down and that mask was
715
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280
on.
716
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,600
I got right down in his face and I said, devil, tell you something.
717
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,080
You come up here to harm us, but you can't touch us.
718
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,480
You couldn't touch us with a 50 foot pole.
719
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
You understand me devil?
720
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,000
And I gave him a good talking to and I left and went across and I come back and I thought
721
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,520
I'm going to get the third one.
722
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,360
So my kids were watching me do all this.
723
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,720
Are you doing this in English?
724
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,160
And did you have an interpreter?
725
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960
No, you just talking to the devil.
726
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960
You're talking to the devil.
727
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,960
The devil understood English.
728
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,960
Of course he does.
729
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Of course he does.
730
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Just want to clarify the story.
731
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,200
That's good.
732
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,080
So anyway, I went to the third one and he was so scared by then he fell off and blowed
733
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080
backwards off the log.
734
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
So fun.
735
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Glory to God.
736
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Where's my jawbone?
737
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,360
But let me tell you how you can come be cut back down to size.
738
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Oh my.
739
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
That night we got ready to go to bed and I saw a bug I'd never seen before.
740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,040
I freaked out.
741
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
And I said, I am not sleeping in that room.
742
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,040
After all that.
743
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Oh my God.
744
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,720
What happened?
745
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,840
Well he just took all that pride out of me.
746
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040
It's what he did.
747
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,480
I couldn't handle the bug.
748
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Oh, that's funny.
749
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,720
But it was the Holy Spirit in you that brought you into that place of boldness.
750
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,040
Oh, absolutely.
751
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,760
And you had learned that by the word of God, right?
752
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Yeah.
753
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,760
And by jumping off the house.
754
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,760
And your pets.
755
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,760
And my pets.
756
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Yeah.
757
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,440
I mean, my father really groomed me for the mission fail without ever knowing that he
758
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440
did.
759
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Yeah.
760
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,240
And Brother Dawson almost killed me after I got there.
761
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,320
You know, he would just put me wherever.
762
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,760
You know, let me just bring a little clarity here.
763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,920
It's easy for us to look at your upbringing and say your dad was abusive.
764
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,480
But it was preparing you for what you were going to do as an adult for God.
765
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,480
Right.
766
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,480
Right.
767
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,120
So, listener, perhaps you have been through some abusive situation.
768
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Let God turn that around for you.
769
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520
And make it your platform.
770
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,520
And your strength.
771
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Yes.
772
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Amen.
773
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Go right on.
774
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Absolutely.
775
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Yeah.
776
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,400
What I loved what you said, Mama Shirley, is that it was little by little.
777
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:06,280
And that's how we learn how to fight, how to battle in a spiritual warfare.
778
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,200
The training that you said to God since you were a child unto adulthood, it had to be
779
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,040
a little bit at a time to get you to that confidence.
780
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Right.
781
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,840
I mean, we see that even as you're speaking to us right now, the confidence and the boldness.
782
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,200
But it was the Spirit of the living God to speak through you.
783
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,600
You allowed the Holy Spirit to just be full measure in you.
784
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600
And the devil did recognize.
785
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Yeah.
786
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,600
And you feel it.
787
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,160
You feel it in your spirit, man.
788
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,160
You feel the anointing.
789
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,200
You feel the boldness.
790
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,720
And you feel, I mean, I feel like just really physically take them guys down.
791
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:48,720
Yes.
792
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,720
Amen.
793
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,320
But it wasn't because you knew how to fight in school.
794
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800
It was because of something that came in with the Holy Spirit.
795
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,800
Amen.
796
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800
Okay.
797
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,920
Because I want to encourage people that are timid, that don't have that kind of upbringing,
798
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,380
that just because they haven't had that kind of upbringing or that kind of experience,
799
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,320
the righteous are as bold as a lion.
800
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Yes.
801
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,320
So the other half of that is the wicked flee when no man pursues, but the righteous are
802
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,480
as bold as a lion.
803
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:31,160
And I think we have to recognize, and I'm not one that came up with that kind of training.
804
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,920
And it was always be nice, behave, be a good girl.
805
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Although, I was the tree climber of the family.
806
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200
I was the tomboy, you know, but I didn't have that boldness.
807
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,400
I didn't have a bold bone in my body, really.
808
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,360
But I began to get ahold of that scripture, the righteous are as bold as a lion.
809
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Amen.
810
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,200
And for me, it takes the Holy Spirit to make me bold.
811
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Because it's not in my nature to be bold.
812
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,080
I mean, I'm not afraid to stand in front of 30,000 people to speak.
813
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,760
That doesn't bother me a bit.
814
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560
There's no fear there.
815
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,480
But I'm more likely to be fearful if I'm in a situation with a one on one, like if I have
816
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880
to start a conversation.
817
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000
That's where it's like, I'm not going to start a conversation.
818
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Come on.
819
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,940
Somebody else can start the conversation and I'll have a conversation.
820
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:34,640
But what I'm saying is that different people have a different background and different
821
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,940
situations.
822
00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:42,840
And what we can learn from each other is that there is that place in God where there is
823
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,880
a boldness and you can stand up and do something that you don't think you can do if God tells
824
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,600
you to do it.
825
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,000
If God tells you to do it, if God gives you that, or if you have a brother Dawson who
826
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560
says, oh, yes, you will.
827
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,800
Or if they have a mama Shirley that says, show me a scripture that says you can't.
828
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
829
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,640
You know, we have to we have to get it in our thinking.
830
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,120
We have to get kingdom thinking that the King gives us orders that we can do.
831
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,980
He's not going to ask us to do something that we can't do.
832
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,560
Or maybe he's going to ask us to do something that we think we can't do, but we can with
833
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,560
him.
834
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Right.
835
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Right.
836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Because Jesus said, Jesus said, without me, you can do nothing.
837
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Absolutely.
838
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,880
And he's right.
839
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,120
He's absolutely right.
840
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Without him, we can do nothing.
841
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,080
And we've probably all had experiences where we've tried to do something that wasn't him
842
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
and didn't succeed.
843
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Didn't succeed.
844
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Yeah.
845
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,800
And you brought up an excellent point.
846
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,160
And what you said was, you know, we're all different.
847
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,800
And we didn't have the experiences as mama Shirley has had.
848
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
But it reminded me of David.
849
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Right.
850
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,000
He came to the battlefield and the King, King Saul wanted to give him his armor.
851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,200
And he even tried it on.
852
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,880
I mean, I could do some of the things that mama Shirley has done, but if it doesn't fit,
853
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,880
I can't war in that.
854
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,160
I have to be trained.
855
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:24,040
And he was trained by the Lord in a place where you would have, who is he going to protect?
856
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,080
But it was the lions and the bears and everything else.
857
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,920
And it just reminded me of that, that the training that we have from the Lord is unique
858
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360
to each and every one of us.
859
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,600
And we have to know our own armor.
860
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
We have to put on our own armor.
861
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,080
We have to learn how to fight the way he reveals to us.
862
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080
It's very important.
863
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
It's true.
864
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,480
Otherwise we can lose the battle and not only get yourself harmed, but those that are with
865
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,480
you.
866
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,120
So we need to be trained.
867
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,120
Right.
868
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,200
But hearing other people's experiences gives us a boldness, gives us a hope.
869
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Yes, absolutely.
870
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,200
There's hope.
871
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Okay, if she can do it, I can do what God told me to do.
872
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,840
So good.
873
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840
Yeah.
874
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,760
So what experiences have you had, Patricia, that have given you this understanding of you
875
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,320
have the victory?
876
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,320
Absolutely.
877
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,720
Well, definitely, you know, learning how to wield our sword, learning the word of God.
878
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:24,720
Yes.
879
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,480
You've got to know the word of God.
880
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,560
If you do, then you can use that sword.
881
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Right.
882
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,560
It reminds me of that.
883
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,040
I forget he was the son of Dodo.
884
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,960
And he went and he fought and fought so much that even the blood just wielded itself on
885
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,960
the sword.
886
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Yeah.
887
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480
They had to pry his hands off from that.
888
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
And that's how we are with the word of God.
889
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,240
So when the enemy comes to your door.
890
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,240
That's right.
891
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,480
And he has done that many times, you know, to each and every one of us, like you said,
892
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,680
those abusive situations, you know, there's so many out there that they're abused either
893
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,520
by a family member or with all these other things that are happening in the world.
894
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,360
How do we fight against that?
895
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:20,120
You know, and I've learned how to do that only through the word of God.
896
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,600
There's just no other way.
897
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,280
It was awesome.
898
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,160
You said it was victorious over fear.
899
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,880
And mama Shirley said earlier in her testimony, you need to know who you are.
900
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,880
That's right.
901
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:42,520
And if we don't have that identity as to who we are, and we'll never be confident enough
902
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,400
or bold enough.
903
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,520
And I want to encourage, especially the women that are listening, that the Lord has a purpose
904
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
for you.
905
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,640
And your purpose is to be victorious.
906
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,760
And when you have fear, it turns into faith.
907
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,960
When we hear testimonies like mama Shirley or myself or others that come on these podcasts,
908
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160
my goodness, it should build up our faith.
909
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,460
And even says build up your most holy faith.
910
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:15,940
And those are the tools.
911
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:22,120
Those are the weapons of our warfare, as I spoke about in 2 Corinthians chapter 10, verse
912
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:30,480
four and five, we need to utilize and sharpen those weapons, because they're always going
913
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,480
to be used in whatever situation it might be in your front door, like it happened with
914
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Jayel or Yael in the story with Deborah.
915
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,320
Deborah was in the front lines.
916
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,000
She was there.
917
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,640
But that mama was in her tent.
918
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,160
It was like the stay home moms, but you're learning how to fight in your home.
919
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000
I call them the foxholes.
920
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,280
And you're in your foxhole.
921
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,480
You could call it your secret closet, but he's teaching you how to war.
922
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,980
He's training you.
923
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:05,880
And that's how he's trained me.
924
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,400
You learn how to battle.
925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,760
You learn how to fight those things within your home.
926
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Then he promotes you.
927
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,800
And now it's your community.
928
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,600
Now it's your neighborhood.
929
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400
It's in your church.
930
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Then he promotes you to start praying for your city, your county, your state.
931
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,720
Now we're praying for our nation and nations, but it's all developed.
932
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:41,520
When we come to these things that are happening in our lives, whether we're abused or misused,
933
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,520
it's right at our door.
934
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Now they're coming for our children.
935
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,360
And that's what happened with Jiel.
936
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Cicera, a general, came to her tent.
937
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,880
To me, that's a home.
938
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,400
And she knew how to wield that tent peg with that nail.
939
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,140
And she was not afraid.
940
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:04,940
So he said, may I have water?
941
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:05,940
She gave him milk.
942
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:08,560
Why don't you just get relaxed?
943
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,520
You've just been in a terrible battle.
944
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,520
He was a bully.
945
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,240
Why didn't he stay back and fight with his troops?
946
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,360
He didn't.
947
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,880
He ran off, it says.
948
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,000
And he ran off to go hide where the women were.
949
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,800
But this woman was not just a woman.
950
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,840
She was a warrior.
951
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,960
And the song and the glory was given through Deborah's song to a woman.
952
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880
And I want to encourage us, all of us, even the men, the women, that story and judges
953
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,280
about Deborah, it's a now word.
954
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
We need to come together.
955
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,800
And that's how he's training us, each of us, to be those chael.
956
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,880
Chael is a Hebrew word, and it's both for men and women.
957
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,960
In fact, that's what they call the IDF.
958
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,020
It's chael.
959
00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:09,960
And what it is is strong, courageous, bold, and army, wealth.
960
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680
It is a man or woman of valor.
961
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,240
There you go.
962
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,200
Valor, being valiant, being victorious.
963
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560
And that's what we're talking about today.
964
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:27,200
How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger
965
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
victories?
966
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Amen.
967
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,240
Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us.
968
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:37,760
And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war?
969
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,760
Amen.
970
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,320
He's a mighty man of war, and he's going to be there with us.
971
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:51,960
And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion, as he taught you.
972
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Learn our weapons of our warfare.
973
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,440
Be those that will come together in unity and be in a team and train the next generation
974
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,600
to be as bold as a lion, because that's what we need now, because the enemy is at our door.
975
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,320
But we're not going to flee.
976
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,320
That's right.
977
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,200
We're going to stand still and see.
978
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,840
The Lord even says, fear not, stand still and see the salvation of our Lord.
979
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,840
And he does.
980
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,240
He, the battle is the Lord's, but we're there in victory already.
981
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240
Amen.
982
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
Amen.
983
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
Amen.
984
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240
I just want to say two things.
985
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,040
We'll get ready to close.
986
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,700
One thing I do want to honor my father in this, because as a child growing up, he was
987
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:44,320
very fearful because his father was very abusive to him.
988
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:51,240
And what he was trying to do for me was to make me confident and fearless.
989
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,880
And so he wasn't trying to be mean to me.
990
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He was trying to give me confidence.
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And that's why he would do the things that he did.
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But what I wanted to bring out is this scripture says, for God has not given us, God did not
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give us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.
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And the Lord gave me that scripture a lot, many years ago.
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And I read that and I didn't get it.
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And the Lord said, read it again.
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I did.
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He said, read it again.
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We went through this several times.
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And finally, he said, slowly read that.
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For God has not given us a spirit of fear.
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Oh, I mean, fear is a spirit for God has not given us the spirit of fear, but a power,
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love and a sound mind.
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And I read that over and over until I finally got it.
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And he said, he kept telling me to slow down.
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Okay.
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It said spirit of fear, spirit of fear.
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Oh, fear is a spirit.
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And he said, do you have authority or fear?
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I went, well, yes.
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So that was what really set me free.
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That put a foundation in me.
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That fear is the spirit.
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And I have authority over spirits.
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That's exactly right.
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That one verse right there was just monumental in my life.
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Second Timothy chapter one, verse seven.
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Okay.
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Would one of you like to pray for our listeners?
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Absolutely.
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Go ahead.
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Well, father, we just, we just want to give you the glory and the honor first and foremost
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for just having the opportunity to share testimonies and, and just being able to share with each
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and every one of you that are listening, you know, that you are bold, you are courageous,
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you are mighty because that is who he has created you to be.
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And we want to affirm you.
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We want to say, you know, these are, yes, the attributes that comes from our father
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because he is strong.
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He is mighty.
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He is valiant and we come from him.
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Yes.
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So father, we just want to thank each and every person that is listening in and those
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that will listen later in these replays.
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And you just take authority, take authority of through the word of God, through the weapons
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of our warfare, everything that he's given us, it's the word, it's the spirit of the
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living God who's in us, absent the blood, the blood of Jesus is against every demonic
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entity.
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You take the authority and say, get behind me.
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Satan, that thought is not from my father.
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You have to take your thoughts captive immediately.
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Yes.
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And you tear them down.
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You bring down those strongholds.
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This was taught to us by the Lord.
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And if he can teach us, he can certainly teach each and every one of you, you just ask him,
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father, how do I handle this situation?
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He will give it to you.
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He will give you the praise.
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He will give you the worship.
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He will give you the song.
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He will give you the dance.
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These are all weapons, everyone.
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These are the weapons of our warfare and even love.
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He says perfect love casts out fear.
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Amen.
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Perfect love.
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That means when you know who you are and whose you are, that perfect love, the one who loves
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you more than anything or anyone lives inside you.
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And once you know that and you're restored to your identity, Satan can't take that.
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He has to bow down just like how mama Shirley, when she was moving her shirt up and down,
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the demons know that there is a God and they tremble.
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They know that there's a God.
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And I just want to end with this is we could fear government, we could fear the world,
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we could fear even Satan, but the Lord says fear God.
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Fear the true and living God and heed his word.
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There's many things.
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This is in Isaiah 8 where there's conspiracies and there's all kinds of things going on.
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We're hearing this and that.
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He says, listen to him.
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Hear the Lord God.
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He said, you fear him out of reverence, out of awe, because the fear of the Lord is the
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beginning of wisdom.
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The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.
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And it says here in Isaiah 33 six, and I love this and I'll end with this because it's so
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precious because we know that there's a shaking going on in the world.
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But he says, even if that is shaken, that we are on the rock.
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We need to stand still and know that he is God.
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But I'm going to read Isaiah 33 six to you all.
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Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability.
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We need to be stable at this time.
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It's the stability of our times because so much everything's accelerating.
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All kinds of things are going on, but we need not fear.
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We need not fear what's going on in the world.
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We fear the Lord.
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And look what he says here.
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The strength of salvation, he says, the fear of the Lord is his treasure.
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So seek, seek the fear of the Lord because that is the beginning of wisdom.
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And we need wisdom during these times that we're in because we're going to stand and
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we're going to stand on that evil day together because we're going to be the ones that when
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people are out there saying, what do I need to do to be saved?
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We're going to have the answer and we're going to be in that stability of our times to know
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that receive the Lord Jesus Christ, be baptized and repentance, receive the Holy Spirit and
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fire so that we can go and preach the gospel and bring more into the kingdom of God.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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And God bless you with this overwhelming loving presence.
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How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger
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victories?
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Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us.
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And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war and he's going to be there with
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us.
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And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion.
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God promises in Joel 2, 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity.
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Welcome to Global Outpouring.
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Are we content for that promise outpouring?
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We equipped for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring.
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I'm Philip Buss.
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And I'm Sharon Buss.
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Welcome to the podcast today.
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We have with us two very special guests, dear, dear friends of ours, Shirley Smith and Patricia
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Arenas.
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And they're going to be sharing with you their experiences in how to be victorious over fear.
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Thank you so much for joining us today.
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We look forward to this podcast.
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This is going to be a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to hear from some victorious people
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how to be victorious.
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But before we get started, we want to encourage you, if you haven't already done so, to please
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go to our website, globaloutpouring.net and make sure that you have subscribed to our
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There are several of them to choose from and you can be as in touch with us as you like.
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But we want to be able to stay in touch with you and we would also love to hear feedback
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from you.
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And if you are at all inclined to help us out with the expenses of this podcast, we
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would be so very grateful.
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There's a donation page there on the website.
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So avail yourself of the resources that are available on our website.
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There's so much to explore and enjoy.
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So Patricia.
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Yes.
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And Shirley, Mama Shirley, we call you Mama Shirley.
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We welcome you both to this podcast, for Global Outpouring Podcast.
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It is a pleasure to have you with us today.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I know that both of you are very experienced in walking in places that are, how shall I
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say, a bit risky, perhaps?
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Hostile.
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Yes, even hostile.
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Yes.
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And so, you know, you've been walking with the Lord for quite a while and the Lord has
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taught you some things.
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So Mama Shirley, we'll start with you.
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Can you tell us something about how you overcame fear?
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We did a podcast with you quite some time ago and we'll put a link to that.
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I'll just refer to a couple of stories that you told on that about how your dad was insistent
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to teach you not to fear and to teach you how to trust him by making you jump off the
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roof repeatedly into his arms.
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And he always caught you.
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So you learned that you could trust and you've learned to trust your heavenly father that
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way.
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Exactly.
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And something about the alligator.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He was a hunter and well, he had a market for frog legs.
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And so we frog-hunted a lot and he had, well, he just liked the missing way of the gators.
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And so we always got, that was a challenge.
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Yeah, we always got gators too.
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And I had one for a pet and you know, it was about half grown, I guess.
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And I brought it home and he built a little pen for me to put it in.
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And I mean, my sister was in school and I was still home and I was bored.
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I was a very hyper child and it took my mom and my grandmother both to keep me entertained.
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And so yeah, and I played with the frogs and I put bonnets on them and I put little jackets
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on them and stuff like that.
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Yeah, right.
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I would put the gator, but he wouldn't be still long enough.
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So you know, I just played with what I had and I had a dog and you know, I was a tomboy.
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Yes.
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Well, you already had an older sister?
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I did.
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Okay.
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And so your dad was expecting to have a boy after a girl.
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So right, so he just tried to make me in one, into one.
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And I played that role, you know, all my life growing up.
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Because you want to please your daddy.
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Of course, of course.
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And I got lots of praise, lots of pats on the back.
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Good girl, great job.
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Good girl, good girl.
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The affirmations, you know, it puts a trust in a child.
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It puts confidence in a child.
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Makes them feel loved and accepted.
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So I could perform whatever he wanted to do.
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I could do it.
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Yeah.
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Including fighting in school.
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You remember everything.
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Oh, I remember that.
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I remember you said you were mean as a snake when you were in school.
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Well, yeah, he did.
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He taught me to fight and he would tell me, you know, if those boys on that bus when I
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was a young teen and the boys want to pick at you because they like you, but they want
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to pull your hair away and didn't take much to upset me.
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And I mean, my temper was real short.
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So I get in a fight with them and my dad said, if you come home and those boys, they beat
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you up, you know, what's going to happen to you?
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I'm going to beat you up too.
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I want you to fight until you see blood.
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And that's what I did.
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And I was in the principal's office a lot.
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I know you've made the devil bleed a lot.
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Yeah, right.
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And I, well, you know what I did?
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I just transferred all that over from the natural into the spirit realm.
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Right.
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And that really made it a lot easier because I began to understand what warfare was like
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and why we had warfare and how we overcome in warfare.
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We don't cringe and scared to death, you know, oh, I can't.
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Oh, shut up.
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You can too.
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You know, I just sat in and have patience with people that didn't, that was fearful.
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Or I would say, give me a scripture says you can't do that.
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Oh, I've told my team because, you know, I had a youth team for years.
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I say, give me a scripture says that you can't do that.
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Oh, my.
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That's good.
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Look at that.
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And they didn't have one.
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Because there isn't one.
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Right.
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And I said, okay, let me give you one that you can do that.
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And that was, I did a lot of teaching like that.
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That's good training.
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Very good training.
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It's like a hands on training.
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Yes, it is.
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That's good, mama.
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So Patricia, what kind of things did you go through as a child that prepared you for the
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kind of work that you do in the Lord now?
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Awesome.
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Thank you for asking, and it's not as dangerous as mama Shirley.
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I didn't have those kind of pets.
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And I was called princess.
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Oh, so I was the princess of the house.
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But you know, when I went to elementary school, you know, it was a little different for me
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because I was the short one.
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I was like almost like the runt.
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else, they kind of pick on you.
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Yeah, you get to.
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And you have to learn how to fight for yourself.
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And being the princess, I really didn't.
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I always had my older sisters, you know, because I didn't have any older brothers.
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And she thank God, you know, I learned from her.
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But what happened, you know, when I came to the Lord, prior to that, and it was through
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my sister, she joined the army.
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She was tough.
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She was the tough one.
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And of course, you know, she went to the little sister and she said, Well, do you want to
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join the army too?
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And I knew that if she's there, you know, I would be okay.
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So of course, I joined and we're not together.
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So of course, I was 17.
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My mother and father had to sign for me to go.
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I hadn't even finished high school yet.
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And I didn't have the older sister now.
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And they teach you and they train you, but they teach you how to be rough and how to
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think quickly on your feet, you know, and make wise decisions.
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And they teach you and train you in the military, because you have to know your enemies, right?
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You need to know who they are.
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And you have to learn to work together.
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And through all of that, when I came to the Lord, almost gosh, I was probably 36 when
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I met the Lord.
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And a lot of things I understood through my background in the military, but he also had
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to unteach me something.
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That's typical.
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So it's very typical.
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But he taught me through the word of God, how to take authority, what to do in those
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situations because you're battling an enemy that you normally don't see.
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You learn of him through the word of God and you know that there is an adversary.
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And we need to be taught by the Holy Spirit how to fight.
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Amen.
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And he does it well.
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And if he could do that for me, the runt, he can surely do it for all of us.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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And we did a podcast with you before, so we'll also put a link to that one so that our listeners
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can go back and catch some more of your story and how you came to the Lord and so on.
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But we're talking today, it really was not our intention to start a series, but we kind
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of did.
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And we started out two episodes ago with this message about where do you run for refuge?
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And of course, we run to the Lord.
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Absolutely.
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And then our last episode was delivered from fear.
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And so I just felt like we probably just needed to bang on this anvil one more time.
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Let's do it.
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Let's beat this horseshoe into shape.
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Come on.
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So Thomas Shirley, tell us something about things in your experience that have been training
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for you in the spirit realm, things that you had to overcome in order to have a victory
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over fear and whatever it is that the Lord has put on your heart here.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, there was two things.
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One came earlier before I really knew the word.
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And I always thought that the Old Testament was just history, didn't have anything to
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do with us today.
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And the book of Psalms sound nice, but I didn't know how to appropriate the word because in
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the church I was in, they preach but don't teach.
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So I didn't really have any teaching or any grounding in the word.
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And so my husband worked shift work at the hospital.
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me.
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But while he was at work, and at nighttime, and people would flash flashlights through
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my windows, they would drag chains on my sidewalk.
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I would get I would get really bad phone calls late at night with threatening and just bad
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stuff.
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In the summertime, I wouldn't even turn the air conditioner on, we'd lay there and my
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two daughters was we had a big king size bed.
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I wouldn't turn the air conditioner on because I couldn't hear anybody if they broke in.
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That's what fear is torment.
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Yes, it is.
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It's torment.
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So I was oh, I was so tired of that.
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So one night I went to Wednesday night I went over to an assembly of God church.
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And there was a lady Methodist evangelist wife that was there.
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that was mental.
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And it came to borrow one match from her.
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And she was just petrified.
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And the Lord took her to Psalms 91.
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Oh, yeah.
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Which I never realized 91 was in there, you know.
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Well, in my neighborhood, we had a boy in our neighborhood that was mental.
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He walked in the neighborhoods during the nighttime and he was a peeping Tom.
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Okay, I could relate to it.
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And that was the thing about the windows.
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I said, now, listen, I am not Methodist, but I am an A.O.G.
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I know that if you're going to give that to her, this is religious pride.
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So I started using that and it started working.
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Glory to God.
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This really, really works.
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There was a test that came after I began to learn who I was and my authority.
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And you had to call on the Lord.
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But anyway, it got really bad.
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I got a lot of bad phone calls late at night because I was alone and with just my daughters.
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My husband was gone.
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All the things they wanted to do.
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That was the second trying time, you know.
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And then Brother Hagen, I began to listen to him about our authority as a believer,
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you know, and he began to talk about different types of spirits and how they operated and
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how they would speak to you and how they would threaten you and what the nature of those
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spirits were.
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And I thought, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that one.
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I know that one, you know.
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us to go with that.
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And I thought, oh, he just calls again.
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And so I told my husband, I said, he's fixing to change shifts.
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get a phone call.
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So we had a neighbor across the street that asked him to come and ride with him.
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He was in flight training to come ride with him while he was picking up some hours.
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And he kept pressuring him and pressuring him.
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And James said, well, I have this to do and that to do.
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I don't have time.
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He was the only one who knew that James was changing shifts.
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He was gone about 20 minutes to work.
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By then I had learned a few things.
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I'm waiting on you because you have a spirit of lust and I've got the spirit of God and
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I got that knowing I'm going to cast that thing out of you.
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Oh, you talking about heyday.
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Oh, Lord.
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Because I had done learned that I had got him give me a spirit of fear, but power, love
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and a sound mind.
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That's right.
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And so, honey, I didn't get any more phone calls.
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Wow, glory to God.
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So I just conquered fear just one at a time.
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Because these tests kept coming and I didn't know God was getting me ready for bandits,
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you know, in Mexico and all the wild stuff.
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But he did.
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He was already had me in training and right there in my own house.
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That's right.
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And so that's the way I started out with this.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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Now you can't refer to that and not tell us that story.
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So what happened with bandits in Mexico?
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I loved it.
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That's so powerful.
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It was great.
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It was powerful.
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Well, my father, like I said, was a very strict disciplinarian.
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And so when I met the man who was the head of the Bible school in Monterey, he was just
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like my father, but he was a spiritual man.
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And he would just jerk me up and tell me you're going to do this.
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And I said, No, I'm not.
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And he said, Yes, you are.
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And one night we was in a bull ring and in Cataracta.
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But not with a bull?
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No, not with a bull.
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But he had rented the bull ring.
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Okay, I wanted to clarify.
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It's different animals.
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No one would have doubted me if he'd had a bull in there.
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I'll tell you.
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Because he was just that dynamic and just that bold and just that daring.
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He was like my daddy, but spiritual.
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So it was for a crusade?
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he just rented it and had an evangelistic meeting.
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He brought a lot of the students that came along that night.
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And so you never knew when you were going to speak.
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So you always had to be prepared.
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So when we got there, he said, Sister Smith, you're preaching tonight.
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And so I got the microphone.
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He said, No, give me the mic.
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And he said, Before you start, he said, There's a man who is demon possessed.
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And he said, I told the pastors that we would pray for him before the meeting started.
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So we're going to pray for him.
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I said, Well, I'm not.
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And he said, Oh, yes, you are.
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And I said, Oh, no, I'm not.
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I don't know anything about that.
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And I'm not doing it.
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And he said, Don't you ever tell me that.
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Don't you ever speak like that to me in my presence.
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Don't you ever show fear of a devil in my presence.
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Wow.
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And boy, he just started jerking me around with words.
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That slack out.
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And I could just hear my father.
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I'm going, Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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And so he brought the guy up, you know, and and so the guy's on the ground and I'm on
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a wooden platform.
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And so I was over just looking at him and praying, you know, and all of a sudden his
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shirt started doing this.
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Okay, so you're pulling on your shirt up and put my shirt was his shirt was moving up and
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down.
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I didn't feel any wind.
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My clothes wasn't moving.
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The students came up and they said, I don't know, I mean, sister, look, and they started
377
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,040
doing their shirt.
378
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,080
And they said, What is this?
379
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920
And I went, I don't know.
380
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,520
And I said, Okay, God, what is what's going on?
381
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,680
What is this?
382
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,200
Why is his shirt moving?
383
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,520
Why is his stomach jumping?
384
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,440
And he said, The demons fear and tremble in my presence.
385
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,960
Oh, I shouted all over the platform.
386
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,920
Pastor Dawson said, settle down, settle down, settle down.
387
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,920
What's going on?
388
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,600
I said, Oh, you know what God said?
389
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,840
And I told him and he just laughed because he was used to that, you know.
390
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,320
And so we get ready to do the deliverance and the man gets his hands up and I don't
391
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,240
know anything about Spanish at that time, you know.
392
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,720
And so I reached up and caught his hand.
393
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,720
He went, Calleante, Calleante.
394
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,800
What's wrong with him?
395
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800
And so I would catch his hand again.
396
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,800
And he called Calleante, which means hot, hot, hot.
397
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:17,640
You know, I didn't realize I was grounded in him.
398
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,080
He was on the ground and I was on wood and I was shucking the fire out of him and I could
399
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,080
see sparks.
400
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,640
You know, and I thought it was the Holy Ghost.
401
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,760
I thought it was the anointing and I went, well, the anointing sure is strong tonight.
402
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,480
You know, I didn't know any different.
403
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,800
So I told Brother Dawson, I said, a man is saying that he's hot.
404
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,400
I said, but you know, he's on the ground because I knew about electricity because my father
405
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,400
taught me that.
406
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,160
And I said, he's on the ground and I'm up here and I'm shocking him.
407
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,760
And I said, he said, oh, that's why he's saying Calleante.
408
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,240
And he just laughed and laughed and he thought that it was so funny.
409
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,720
So he sent the guy back because he just lost it.
410
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,440
He laughed so hard, he couldn't even get in the mood to pray anymore.
411
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,320
So anyway, I preached the sermon that night and everybody came and it was, oh, it was
412
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,320
so awesome.
413
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320
It was like popcorn.
414
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,560
The healings were like popcorn.
415
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,560
Glory to God.
416
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,800
They were so fast, you couldn't even record it.
417
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,800
Wow.
418
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,100
And, and I remember this one lady just grabbed me.
419
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:21,800
Her knees was all messed up and I prayed and God healed her and she picked me up and
420
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,080
tried to start walking around with me.
421
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,360
Almost dropped me and I grabbed the stage.
422
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:31,320
And by the time I looked at Brother Dawson, he's six, four.
423
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,120
He's great, big, tall, slim.
424
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:34,680
He leaped off the platform.
425
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,720
There was three men with crutches and he grabbed one and took off running.
426
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,140
I'm thinking, oh, lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit.
427
00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:45,080
That's American thinking, you know?
428
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,440
And so, and so he just kept running.
429
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560
He, he come back around and turned him loose and the man kept running.
430
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,440
He went back and grabbed the other one.
431
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,720
He took off running with him, did the same thing.
432
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,880
All three men got healed.
433
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,880
Oh my God.
434
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800
That's the kind of miracles I got exposed to.
435
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:07,240
So my faith was just quickly developed and just over the top.
436
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,240
Oh yeah.
437
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,360
So I had all that under my belt before I ever went to the mountains.
438
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:14,360
Okay.
439
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,360
And that's where the bandits were.
440
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360
Yes.
441
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:17,360
Yes.
442
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,360
Yes.
443
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,360
Then what happened?
444
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,920
Well, on this particular trip, we were going down and that Haley's Comet, y'all probably
445
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,240
remember that when it was manifesting or whatever you want to call it.
446
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,640
And well, you could see the gold dust kind of coming from that.
447
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,360
You remember that Haley's Comet?
448
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,360
Yeah.
449
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:38,160
And so the Lord told me that day to watch the heavens and we looked, I did, we watched,
450
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:45,480
we watched the comet and we got into Mexico and it was real, real hazy over Monterey and
451
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,920
you really couldn't see anything then.
452
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:53,600
So when we left Monterey and went on into the mountains and my husband was driving,
453
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240
it was long, long, long trip.
454
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,840
And my husband was pretty heavy on accelerator anyway.
455
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,720
And so we were flying through those Sierra Madre mountains and those hairpin curves.
456
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,080
I mean, it was like this.
457
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,460
And I remember we had a friend that she was always pleading the blood, pleading the blood.
458
00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:13,320
And I said, Barb, you've pled the blood 10 times.
459
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,360
She said, shut up, Shirley, one more coat don't hurt.
460
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,720
She was so scared of this trip.
461
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720
We had a lot of fun.
462
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,880
Anyway, and I was, everything was flying around and Lord kept telling me, watch the heavens,
463
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,880
watch.
464
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,880
I said, I have it.
465
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,880
I see nothing.
466
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880
What do you want me to see?
467
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,080
I can see cactus.
468
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,640
I can see goats and I see donkeys and I see all of this scenery.
469
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,080
And I said, what do you want me to see?
470
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,640
And so he said, look up.
471
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,720
I looked up in the heavens.
472
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,840
I saw all these white things up in the sky.
473
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,920
I said, Lord, what is that?
474
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000
Oh, I shouldn't have asked.
475
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000
Zoom.
476
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:07,280
This humongous angel comes down on the back of this white dove, like about, I don't know,
477
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,680
25 or 30 foot wingspan right alongside our truck.
478
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280
Cause we had a truck with a camper on the back and us ladies put a mattress back there
479
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080
and we'd ride in the back.
480
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,600
And it was right alongside our truck.
481
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,600
And he had long hair.
482
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040
He had high cheek, deep set eyes.
483
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040
He had a real square chin.
484
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,920
I've seen them several times since then, but I mean, his features is very distinct and
485
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,040
his hair was about shoulder length and kind of semi curly.
486
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:45,440
And he had a rain, holding the reins, then went through the mouth of the dove and he
487
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,880
was just riding right alongside our vehicle.
488
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,320
I was just screaming, just one scream after another.
489
00:24:53,320 --> 00:25:00,680
I was in shock and I was screaming and screaming and, and I turned and I looked at first, I
490
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,840
looked away from him because I was in shock and I looked back and he looked at me right
491
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,880
straight in the eyes and threw his head back and laughed and zoomed and went up.
492
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,200
Wow.
493
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,680
And I thought I would have a heart attack.
494
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,920
I mean, my heart pounded so hard.
495
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000
I like to have never physically got control.
496
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
And then I still didn't have my English.
497
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,840
All I could do is just, my teeth were just chattering, everything.
498
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280
And all I could do was speak in tongues, speak in tongues.
499
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,120
And I thought the English would come sooner or later and I can tell them, you know, what's
500
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,600
going on.
501
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,400
And so when finally, it took me a long time to finally, cause that was a very shocking
502
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,520
instant thing that happened that I was not expecting.
503
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,720
And so when I finally calmed down and got my English back and they were asking me what
504
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280
was wrong with me, what happened?
505
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,920
And I was trying to explain and the other lady said, Oh no, no, no, no, it was not.
506
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:00,920
It was not an angel.
507
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320
It was a Cobra snake.
508
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,320
What?
509
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320
That's what I said.
510
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,320
Cobra snake.
511
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,540
And we were going into the mouth of the, I said, no such a thing.
512
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:14,920
It was an angel on the back of a dove and we had this big difference.
513
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
And I said, okay, everybody just drop it.
514
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,280
We're not going to talk about it.
515
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,640
I don't understand it.
516
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440
We're not discussing this anymore.
517
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680
Just drop this up.
518
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440
So we did.
519
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,800
So when we got to Jose's house, whose we worked with, he was our missionary.
520
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,640
He said, well, there was no phone in the village and there's no way to ever contact him, let
521
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,640
him know when we're coming.
522
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,360
But God always gave him a vision or a dream and he always was ready when we got there.
523
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440
So he already had the horses and everything ready.
524
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
And he said, I have a new village to go to.
525
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,640
And he said, would you all go with me?
526
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,720
We said, sure, sure.
527
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,880
So we said, I got the animal.
528
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,560
So we all loaded up the next day and we were on the mules and we were going through there.
529
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:05,760
And I saw these men and they had machete knives and they had pistols on their hips and they
530
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,760
had masks on their face.
531
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040
And I thought, this is a weird looking bunch.
532
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,560
And I thought, hmm, they sure dress different here.
533
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560
That's all I thought.
534
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640
Because in different parts of Mexico, they do dress different.
535
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320
And I thought, they dress different here.
536
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,760
And I wasn't frightened.
537
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,000
I wasn't alarmed.
538
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,280
I wasn't thinking anything about it really.
539
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,040
But I thought, well, I thought the machete is, they probably cut their way through the
540
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800
woods, through the mountains here, because this is the Sierra Madres.
541
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
And I think the guns is wild animals.
542
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,400
They probably use the guns for that.
543
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,520
I could reason out why they had these weapons.
544
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,440
And so we went on in and there's a whole bunch more dressed just like them.
545
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640
And we stayed two or three days.
546
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,640
I forget how many it was.
547
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440
It was just like over a weekend.
548
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800
And so when we came back out, they were very friendly.
549
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,640
They killed a goat and made us all these delicious dishes.
550
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880
It was delicious.
551
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,120
And they gave us their beds.
552
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:13,720
And this old grandmother slept in the corn crib and let us have her bed.
553
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
That's how precious those people are.
554
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Well, so Barb Wayne slept in another one and the mattress kept rattling and rattling.
555
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440
They said, there must be corn chucks in here.
556
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
And they pulled it up and it was a leopard skin.
557
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840
Oh man, Barb freaked.
558
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Wow.
559
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Because it was a wild animal.
560
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,880
It was a leopard skin.
561
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720
But anyway, it was a lot of new things.
562
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640
We'd never encountered anything like that before.
563
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,240
And so the day we got ready to leave, well, Barb was talking to Jose and she said, Jose,
564
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,200
while we were here, you kept using the word bandito, bandito.
565
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,800
She said, were you talking about when you were abandoned and you were in prison and you
566
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,800
got saved?
567
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
You gave him your testimony and he said, no.
568
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
She said, well, were you talking about bandits?
569
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,640
And he said, no.
570
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,120
She said, well, yes, you were.
571
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,560
You kept using that word.
572
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,480
He said, no, Sister Barb, I was talking to the bandits.
573
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,480
She said, what?
574
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120
I was talking to the bandits.
575
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,120
You mean to tell me that where we just came from, those are bandits because they all had
576
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,400
bounties on their head.
577
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400
They were all wanted.
578
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,880
They'd all went back in there and built this village to escape from the law.
579
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,440
And then he told us everything, you know, all he told us all of that.
580
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,120
And so she slapped my mule and she said, run, Shirley, run.
581
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
I said, well, Barb, we've already gone and come out.
582
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,760
We didn't get killed.
583
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760
We're okay.
584
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,420
So we was riding along there on this mule and I said, God, would you explain a few things
585
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:47,420
to me?
586
00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:50,280
Would you tell me what all this is about?
587
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
And he said, remember that angel I showed you?
588
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,600
And I went, yeah.
589
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
The one I nearly had a heart attack over.
590
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920
And he said, yeah.
591
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,040
And he said, he protected you while you were there.
592
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,720
And that cobra snake was the bandits village that you went in because these are deadly
593
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720
people.
594
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720
It's like the cobra snake is.
595
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Wow.
596
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,720
That's amazing.
597
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,400
So you each saw something.
598
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Don't you love it?
599
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840
Each of you saw something that was a part of.
600
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Yeah, I saw the angel and she saw the cobra snake in the truck that night.
601
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720
And I kept, you know, I like to never got my English, but when I finally did it, I was
602
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600
trying to explain to them what I just saw.
603
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,760
She was going down and she was as upset as I was because she had just seen a cobra.
604
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,800
And so it's walking into its mouth.
605
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Wow.
606
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800
Yeah.
607
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560
They both saw what was going to happen.
608
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Yeah.
609
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,160
But you know, three months later, God called me back there again and I took a team of young
610
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,160
people.
611
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Wow.
612
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160
I did.
613
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
I'm going, God, are you sure?
614
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840
I don't know about confirmations in the word.
615
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,440
He gave me confirmations and he said, I want you to take balls.
616
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,580
I said, we are not going on vacation, Lord.
617
00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:02,040
We are going to witness.
618
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,780
We're going to preach.
619
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:05,360
We're going to be missionaries.
620
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800
And he said, take, take the balls.
621
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,400
I said, I don't have any, I don't have money to buy any because I wasn't wanting to do
622
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,400
that.
623
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,900
And he said, call the schoolhouse and they'll give you some.
624
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:17,900
I said, they don't even know me.
625
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,280
I don't have any kids to go to school.
626
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,960
But anyway, I called the school.
627
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400
They said, we're just cleaning out everything, all of our gymnasium and getting rid of all
628
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,080
of our balls and bats and stuff and getting new equipment and just come get all that you
629
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,080
want.
630
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Wow.
631
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Look at that.
632
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,680
So I got bags, got toe sacks and got bags of them, you know, put them back in the truck
633
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,000
and took them down and we tied them onto the mules and took them back into the village.
634
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Wow.
635
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
And they were so excited to see us.
636
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,680
So when we got there, they boys started playing baseball and it was a bunch of bandits.
637
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680
I guess they might've been new ones.
638
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680
They came out of nowhere.
639
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,680
I don't know.
640
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
They was way over here somewhere and they heard everybody running and hollering and
641
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720
playing and they come up and they were hanging on the fence watching, you know, and they
642
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,880
said, we want to play.
643
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,880
We want to play.
644
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,080
I was, I said, no, you don't come to service and you can't play.
645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Oh, we'll come to service.
646
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,080
That is so good.
647
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080
I love it.
648
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120
They came that night and they got saved that night.
649
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,480
Glory to God.
650
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Wow.
651
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,480
I love it.
652
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,560
I know, but I won't tell this one though, but cause this one was just crazy.
653
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600
I'm telling you, I've never done anything like it, but I wouldn't say I wouldn't do
654
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,600
it again.
655
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,600
I don't know.
656
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Just depending on how the Lord moved.
657
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,200
But when we went back, one of my boys was praying before we, before service started
658
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,680
and he said, he said, I saw a cobra snake and it was coming to the village here.
659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
And I said, that's okay.
660
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040
I never tell them what we, what happened before on the first trip.
661
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,040
I said, that's okay.
662
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800
We'll pray and God will take care of it.
663
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,880
Don't worry about it.
664
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,880
So we prayed.
665
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
And so Jose and I always dig tag teaching.
666
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760
So we had a 50 gallon drum with a cold old lamp on top.
667
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760
That was what we had for light.
668
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,720
But there was a real full moon that night and we had a lot of lights, moonlight and
669
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720
the air is crystal clear there.
670
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
I mean, there's no smile and you can see everything.
671
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,920
You even see your shadow at night.
672
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400
So Jose was preaching and then I'll preach for a while.
673
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120
And I gave it back to him and up rides these three men.
674
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,860
And the Lord said, that's the Cobra.
675
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:37,080
So we had a big long log that we didn't have enough seats for everybody.
676
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080
It was big, long, long.
677
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160
And they came and sat down.
678
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,480
I don't know what happened to me, but something just began to rise up at this righteous indignation,
679
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
this anger, whatever it was.
680
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
I said, I need the microphone.
681
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160
He looked at me like you've already had your turn, you know?
682
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160
And I said, I need the microphone.
683
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,320
He said, okay.
684
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,480
I said, follow me.
685
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,920
So we went over and I said, I got right down in their faces.
686
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Oh my.
687
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,280
I know who you are.
688
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,120
I know why you're here, but I also know that the angel of the Lord is here and will strike
689
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,120
you dead if you dare to think that you'll touch anybody in this place.
690
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,120
You understand me?
691
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Wow.
692
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600
And I hand the microphone back to him.
693
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480
He looked at me like, my God, what is sure?
694
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120
He never knew what I was going to do and I didn't either.
695
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480
So anyway, the host says, got it.
696
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480
He's preaching again.
697
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480
And I went, God, that felt good.
698
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,400
I said, I think I'll do it again.
699
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,760
I got up.
700
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440
I'm sitting back, kind of back against the building.
701
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,640
They're sitting out here on this log and I walked right up to him and he leaned back
702
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,640
like this.
703
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640
And I got right down and I said, look at me, devil, look at me.
704
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,640
You are bound.
705
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,840
You understand that you are bound and you can't touch us.
706
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840
You understand that devil?
707
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440
And he just looked at me.
708
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,440
I was trying to walk down.
709
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,400
I went and got me a drink of water and I come back and I sat down and I went, God, that
710
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,400
felt good.
711
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,960
I'm going to do it again.
712
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,480
I got up and I went back.
713
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,720
God's my witness.
714
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:18,280
And I went back and I talked to the second one and I got right down and that mask was
715
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280
on.
716
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,600
I got right down in his face and I said, devil, tell you something.
717
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,080
You come up here to harm us, but you can't touch us.
718
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,480
You couldn't touch us with a 50 foot pole.
719
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
You understand me devil?
720
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,000
And I gave him a good talking to and I left and went across and I come back and I thought
721
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,520
I'm going to get the third one.
722
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,360
So my kids were watching me do all this.
723
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,720
Are you doing this in English?
724
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,160
And did you have an interpreter?
725
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960
No, you just talking to the devil.
726
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960
You're talking to the devil.
727
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,960
The devil understood English.
728
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,960
Of course he does.
729
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Of course he does.
730
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Just want to clarify the story.
731
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,200
That's good.
732
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,080
So anyway, I went to the third one and he was so scared by then he fell off and blowed
733
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080
backwards off the log.
734
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
So fun.
735
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Glory to God.
736
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Where's my jawbone?
737
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,360
But let me tell you how you can come be cut back down to size.
738
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Oh my.
739
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
That night we got ready to go to bed and I saw a bug I'd never seen before.
740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,040
I freaked out.
741
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
And I said, I am not sleeping in that room.
742
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,040
After all that.
743
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Oh my God.
744
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,720
What happened?
745
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,840
Well he just took all that pride out of me.
746
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040
It's what he did.
747
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,480
I couldn't handle the bug.
748
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Oh, that's funny.
749
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,720
But it was the Holy Spirit in you that brought you into that place of boldness.
750
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,040
Oh, absolutely.
751
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,760
And you had learned that by the word of God, right?
752
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Yeah.
753
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,760
And by jumping off the house.
754
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,760
And your pets.
755
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,760
And my pets.
756
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Yeah.
757
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,440
I mean, my father really groomed me for the mission fail without ever knowing that he
758
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440
did.
759
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Yeah.
760
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,240
And Brother Dawson almost killed me after I got there.
761
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,320
You know, he would just put me wherever.
762
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,760
You know, let me just bring a little clarity here.
763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,920
It's easy for us to look at your upbringing and say your dad was abusive.
764
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,480
But it was preparing you for what you were going to do as an adult for God.
765
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,480
Right.
766
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,480
Right.
767
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,120
So, listener, perhaps you have been through some abusive situation.
768
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Let God turn that around for you.
769
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520
And make it your platform.
770
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,520
And your strength.
771
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Yes.
772
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Amen.
773
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Go right on.
774
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Absolutely.
775
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Yeah.
776
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,400
What I loved what you said, Mama Shirley, is that it was little by little.
777
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:06,280
And that's how we learn how to fight, how to battle in a spiritual warfare.
778
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,200
The training that you said to God since you were a child unto adulthood, it had to be
779
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,040
a little bit at a time to get you to that confidence.
780
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Right.
781
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,840
I mean, we see that even as you're speaking to us right now, the confidence and the boldness.
782
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,200
But it was the Spirit of the living God to speak through you.
783
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,600
You allowed the Holy Spirit to just be full measure in you.
784
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600
And the devil did recognize.
785
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Yeah.
786
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,600
And you feel it.
787
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,160
You feel it in your spirit, man.
788
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,160
You feel the anointing.
789
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,200
You feel the boldness.
790
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,720
And you feel, I mean, I feel like just really physically take them guys down.
791
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:48,720
Yes.
792
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,720
Amen.
793
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,320
But it wasn't because you knew how to fight in school.
794
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800
It was because of something that came in with the Holy Spirit.
795
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,800
Amen.
796
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800
Okay.
797
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,920
Because I want to encourage people that are timid, that don't have that kind of upbringing,
798
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,380
that just because they haven't had that kind of upbringing or that kind of experience,
799
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,320
the righteous are as bold as a lion.
800
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Yes.
801
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,320
So the other half of that is the wicked flee when no man pursues, but the righteous are
802
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,480
as bold as a lion.
803
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:31,160
And I think we have to recognize, and I'm not one that came up with that kind of training.
804
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,920
And it was always be nice, behave, be a good girl.
805
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Although, I was the tree climber of the family.
806
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200
I was the tomboy, you know, but I didn't have that boldness.
807
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,400
I didn't have a bold bone in my body, really.
808
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,360
But I began to get ahold of that scripture, the righteous are as bold as a lion.
809
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Amen.
810
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,200
And for me, it takes the Holy Spirit to make me bold.
811
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Because it's not in my nature to be bold.
812
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,080
I mean, I'm not afraid to stand in front of 30,000 people to speak.
813
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,760
That doesn't bother me a bit.
814
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560
There's no fear there.
815
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,480
But I'm more likely to be fearful if I'm in a situation with a one on one, like if I have
816
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880
to start a conversation.
817
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000
That's where it's like, I'm not going to start a conversation.
818
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Come on.
819
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,940
Somebody else can start the conversation and I'll have a conversation.
820
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:34,640
But what I'm saying is that different people have a different background and different
821
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,940
situations.
822
00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:42,840
And what we can learn from each other is that there is that place in God where there is
823
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,880
a boldness and you can stand up and do something that you don't think you can do if God tells
824
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,600
you to do it.
825
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,000
If God tells you to do it, if God gives you that, or if you have a brother Dawson who
826
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560
says, oh, yes, you will.
827
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,800
Or if they have a mama Shirley that says, show me a scripture that says you can't.
828
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
829
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,640
You know, we have to we have to get it in our thinking.
830
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,120
We have to get kingdom thinking that the King gives us orders that we can do.
831
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,980
He's not going to ask us to do something that we can't do.
832
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,560
Or maybe he's going to ask us to do something that we think we can't do, but we can with
833
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,560
him.
834
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Right.
835
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Right.
836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Because Jesus said, Jesus said, without me, you can do nothing.
837
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Absolutely.
838
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,880
And he's right.
839
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,120
He's absolutely right.
840
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Without him, we can do nothing.
841
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,080
And we've probably all had experiences where we've tried to do something that wasn't him
842
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
and didn't succeed.
843
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Didn't succeed.
844
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Yeah.
845
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,800
And you brought up an excellent point.
846
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,160
And what you said was, you know, we're all different.
847
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,800
And we didn't have the experiences as mama Shirley has had.
848
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
But it reminded me of David.
849
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Right.
850
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,000
He came to the battlefield and the King, King Saul wanted to give him his armor.
851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,200
And he even tried it on.
852
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,880
I mean, I could do some of the things that mama Shirley has done, but if it doesn't fit,
853
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,880
I can't war in that.
854
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,160
I have to be trained.
855
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:24,040
And he was trained by the Lord in a place where you would have, who is he going to protect?
856
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,080
But it was the lions and the bears and everything else.
857
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,920
And it just reminded me of that, that the training that we have from the Lord is unique
858
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360
to each and every one of us.
859
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,600
And we have to know our own armor.
860
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
We have to put on our own armor.
861
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,080
We have to learn how to fight the way he reveals to us.
862
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080
It's very important.
863
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
It's true.
864
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,480
Otherwise we can lose the battle and not only get yourself harmed, but those that are with
865
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,480
you.
866
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,120
So we need to be trained.
867
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,120
Right.
868
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,200
But hearing other people's experiences gives us a boldness, gives us a hope.
869
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Yes, absolutely.
870
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,200
There's hope.
871
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Okay, if she can do it, I can do what God told me to do.
872
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,840
So good.
873
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840
Yeah.
874
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,760
So what experiences have you had, Patricia, that have given you this understanding of you
875
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,320
have the victory?
876
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,320
Absolutely.
877
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,720
Well, definitely, you know, learning how to wield our sword, learning the word of God.
878
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:24,720
Yes.
879
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,480
You've got to know the word of God.
880
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If you do, then you can use that sword.
881
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Right.
882
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,560
It reminds me of that.
883
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,040
I forget he was the son of Dodo.
884
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,960
And he went and he fought and fought so much that even the blood just wielded itself on
885
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,960
the sword.
886
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Yeah.
887
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480
They had to pry his hands off from that.
888
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
And that's how we are with the word of God.
889
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,240
So when the enemy comes to your door.
890
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,240
That's right.
891
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,480
And he has done that many times, you know, to each and every one of us, like you said,
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00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,680
those abusive situations, you know, there's so many out there that they're abused either
893
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,520
by a family member or with all these other things that are happening in the world.
894
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,360
How do we fight against that?
895
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:20,120
You know, and I've learned how to do that only through the word of God.
896
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,600
There's just no other way.
897
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,280
It was awesome.
898
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,160
You said it was victorious over fear.
899
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,880
And mama Shirley said earlier in her testimony, you need to know who you are.
900
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,880
That's right.
901
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:42,520
And if we don't have that identity as to who we are, and we'll never be confident enough
902
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,400
or bold enough.
903
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,520
And I want to encourage, especially the women that are listening, that the Lord has a purpose
904
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
for you.
905
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,640
And your purpose is to be victorious.
906
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,760
And when you have fear, it turns into faith.
907
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,960
When we hear testimonies like mama Shirley or myself or others that come on these podcasts,
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00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160
my goodness, it should build up our faith.
909
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,460
And even says build up your most holy faith.
910
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:15,940
And those are the tools.
911
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:22,120
Those are the weapons of our warfare, as I spoke about in 2 Corinthians chapter 10, verse
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00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:30,480
four and five, we need to utilize and sharpen those weapons, because they're always going
913
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,480
to be used in whatever situation it might be in your front door, like it happened with
914
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Jayel or Yael in the story with Deborah.
915
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,320
Deborah was in the front lines.
916
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,000
She was there.
917
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,640
But that mama was in her tent.
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00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,160
It was like the stay home moms, but you're learning how to fight in your home.
919
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000
I call them the foxholes.
920
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,280
And you're in your foxhole.
921
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,480
You could call it your secret closet, but he's teaching you how to war.
922
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,980
He's training you.
923
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:05,880
And that's how he's trained me.
924
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,400
You learn how to battle.
925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,760
You learn how to fight those things within your home.
926
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Then he promotes you.
927
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,800
And now it's your community.
928
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,600
Now it's your neighborhood.
929
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400
It's in your church.
930
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Then he promotes you to start praying for your city, your county, your state.
931
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,720
Now we're praying for our nation and nations, but it's all developed.
932
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:41,520
When we come to these things that are happening in our lives, whether we're abused or misused,
933
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,520
it's right at our door.
934
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Now they're coming for our children.
935
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,360
And that's what happened with Jiel.
936
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Cicera, a general, came to her tent.
937
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,880
To me, that's a home.
938
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,400
And she knew how to wield that tent peg with that nail.
939
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,140
And she was not afraid.
940
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:04,940
So he said, may I have water?
941
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:05,940
She gave him milk.
942
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:08,560
Why don't you just get relaxed?
943
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,520
You've just been in a terrible battle.
944
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,520
He was a bully.
945
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,240
Why didn't he stay back and fight with his troops?
946
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,360
He didn't.
947
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,880
He ran off, it says.
948
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,000
And he ran off to go hide where the women were.
949
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,800
But this woman was not just a woman.
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00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,840
She was a warrior.
951
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,960
And the song and the glory was given through Deborah's song to a woman.
952
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880
And I want to encourage us, all of us, even the men, the women, that story and judges
953
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,280
about Deborah, it's a now word.
954
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
We need to come together.
955
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,800
And that's how he's training us, each of us, to be those chael.
956
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,880
Chael is a Hebrew word, and it's both for men and women.
957
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,960
In fact, that's what they call the IDF.
958
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,020
It's chael.
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00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:09,960
And what it is is strong, courageous, bold, and army, wealth.
960
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680
It is a man or woman of valor.
961
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,240
There you go.
962
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,200
Valor, being valiant, being victorious.
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00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560
And that's what we're talking about today.
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How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger
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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
victories?
966
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Amen.
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00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,240
Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us.
968
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:37,760
And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war?
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00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,760
Amen.
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00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,320
He's a mighty man of war, and he's going to be there with us.
971
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:51,960
And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion, as he taught you.
972
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Learn our weapons of our warfare.
973
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,440
Be those that will come together in unity and be in a team and train the next generation
974
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,600
to be as bold as a lion, because that's what we need now, because the enemy is at our door.
975
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,320
But we're not going to flee.
976
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,320
That's right.
977
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,200
We're going to stand still and see.
978
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,840
The Lord even says, fear not, stand still and see the salvation of our Lord.
979
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,840
And he does.
980
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,240
He, the battle is the Lord's, but we're there in victory already.
981
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240
Amen.
982
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
Amen.
983
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
Amen.
984
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240
I just want to say two things.
985
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We'll get ready to close.
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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,700
One thing I do want to honor my father in this, because as a child growing up, he was
987
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:44,320
very fearful because his father was very abusive to him.
988
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:51,240
And what he was trying to do for me was to make me confident and fearless.
989
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,880
And so he wasn't trying to be mean to me.
990
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,080
He was trying to give me confidence.
991
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,260
And that's why he would do the things that he did.
992
00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:04,160
But what I wanted to bring out is this scripture says, for God has not given us, God did not
993
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give us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.
994
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,960
And the Lord gave me that scripture a lot, many years ago.
995
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,480
And I read that and I didn't get it.
996
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,000
And the Lord said, read it again.
997
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
I did.
998
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
He said, read it again.
999
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,040
We went through this several times.
1000
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,920
And finally, he said, slowly read that.
1001
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,280
For God has not given us a spirit of fear.
1002
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:38,520
Oh, I mean, fear is a spirit for God has not given us the spirit of fear, but a power,
1003
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,760
love and a sound mind.
1004
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,400
And I read that over and over until I finally got it.
1005
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,800
And he said, he kept telling me to slow down.
1006
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Okay.
1007
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,720
It said spirit of fear, spirit of fear.
1008
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,640
Oh, fear is a spirit.
1009
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,920
And he said, do you have authority or fear?
1010
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,340
I went, well, yes.
1011
00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:01,240
So that was what really set me free.
1012
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:03,360
That put a foundation in me.
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00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640
That fear is the spirit.
1014
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,760
And I have authority over spirits.
1015
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,020
That's exactly right.
1016
00:51:09,020 --> 00:51:13,400
That one verse right there was just monumental in my life.
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Second Timothy chapter one, verse seven.
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Okay.
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Would one of you like to pray for our listeners?
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00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Absolutely.
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Go ahead.
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00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,280
Well, father, we just, we just want to give you the glory and the honor first and foremost
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00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:35,120
for just having the opportunity to share testimonies and, and just being able to share with each
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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:41,800
and every one of you that are listening, you know, that you are bold, you are courageous,
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00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:47,760
you are mighty because that is who he has created you to be.
1026
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,080
And we want to affirm you.
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00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:55,840
We want to say, you know, these are, yes, the attributes that comes from our father
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00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,740
because he is strong.
1029
00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:58,960
He is mighty.
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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,320
He is valiant and we come from him.
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00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,320
Yes.
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00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,440
So father, we just want to thank each and every person that is listening in and those
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00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,680
that will listen later in these replays.
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00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:17,240
And you just take authority, take authority of through the word of God, through the weapons
1035
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:22,880
of our warfare, everything that he's given us, it's the word, it's the spirit of the
1036
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:30,360
living God who's in us, absent the blood, the blood of Jesus is against every demonic
1037
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,760
entity.
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00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,320
You take the authority and say, get behind me.
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00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Satan, that thought is not from my father.
1040
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200
You have to take your thoughts captive immediately.
1041
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Yes.
1042
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,520
And you tear them down.
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00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,460
You bring down those strongholds.
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00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:46,840
This was taught to us by the Lord.
1045
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:53,280
And if he can teach us, he can certainly teach each and every one of you, you just ask him,
1046
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,280
father, how do I handle this situation?
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00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,680
He will give it to you.
1048
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,420
He will give you the praise.
1049
00:52:59,420 --> 00:53:00,780
He will give you the worship.
1050
00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:02,360
He will give you the song.
1051
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,020
He will give you the dance.
1052
00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:06,060
These are all weapons, everyone.
1053
00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:09,760
These are the weapons of our warfare and even love.
1054
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,600
He says perfect love casts out fear.
1055
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Amen.
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00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,680
Perfect love.
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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:22,560
That means when you know who you are and whose you are, that perfect love, the one who loves
1058
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,040
you more than anything or anyone lives inside you.
1059
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,040
And once you know that and you're restored to your identity, Satan can't take that.
1060
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,120
He has to bow down just like how mama Shirley, when she was moving her shirt up and down,
1061
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:44,560
the demons know that there is a God and they tremble.
1062
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560
They know that there's a God.
1063
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,720
And I just want to end with this is we could fear government, we could fear the world,
1064
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,720
we could fear even Satan, but the Lord says fear God.
1065
00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:01,360
Fear the true and living God and heed his word.
1066
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,360
There's many things.
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00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,540
This is in Isaiah 8 where there's conspiracies and there's all kinds of things going on.
1068
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:10,000
We're hearing this and that.
1069
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,720
He says, listen to him.
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00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,160
Hear the Lord God.
1071
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,320
He said, you fear him out of reverence, out of awe, because the fear of the Lord is the
1072
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,480
beginning of wisdom.
1073
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,080
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.
1074
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,600
And it says here in Isaiah 33 six, and I love this and I'll end with this because it's so
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00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:36,400
precious because we know that there's a shaking going on in the world.
1076
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,980
But he says, even if that is shaken, that we are on the rock.
1077
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:45,680
We need to stand still and know that he is God.
1078
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,880
But I'm going to read Isaiah 33 six to you all.
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00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,960
Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability.
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00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,760
We need to be stable at this time.
1081
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:02,500
It's the stability of our times because so much everything's accelerating.
1082
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,920
All kinds of things are going on, but we need not fear.
1083
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,820
We need not fear what's going on in the world.
1084
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:10,060
We fear the Lord.
1085
00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:11,760
And look what he says here.
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00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:21,000
The strength of salvation, he says, the fear of the Lord is his treasure.
1087
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,080
So seek, seek the fear of the Lord because that is the beginning of wisdom.
1088
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,080
And we need wisdom during these times that we're in because we're going to stand and
1089
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:37,520
we're going to stand on that evil day together because we're going to be the ones that when
1090
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:43,040
people are out there saying, what do I need to do to be saved?
1091
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:50,000
We're going to have the answer and we're going to be in that stability of our times to know
1092
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:59,000
that receive the Lord Jesus Christ, be baptized and repentance, receive the Holy Spirit and
1093
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:07,320
fire so that we can go and preach the gospel and bring more into the kingdom of God.
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00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,320
Amen.
1095
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,320
Amen.
1096
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,320
Amen.
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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,320
Amen.
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00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:20,760
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