(209) “The Name of Our Father” with Dr. Nehemia Gordon

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The Romans said if we can get people to call on, to just use God.

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We know that God is Zeus and Jupiter.

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And they don't know that yet, but they'll eventually get it.

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But if instead of God, you say Jehovah, well no, Jehovah is not the same as Zeus and Jupiter.

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So for me, it's important that if He says, this is my name forever, this is my mention

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for generation to generation, I should take that seriously.

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God promises in Joel 2.28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity.

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Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend for that promise outpouring, we equip for

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that outpouring, so that we may engage in that very outpouring.

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I'm Philip Bus.

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And I'm Sharon Bus.

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Welcome to the podcast today.

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We have with us a very, very special guest that I've been longing for a long time to

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have with us.

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His name is Dr. Nehemia Gordon.

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And he is an author and he is a scholar of the deep things of the manuscripts of the

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Hebrew Bible.

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And he's going to share with us some things that we need to know about the name of our

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Father.

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Thanks for joining us today.

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So today we have with us Dr. Nehemia Gordon and I need to tell you some of the backstory

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for this episode.

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If you want to understand the Bible, you have to get back to the Hebrew first.

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The scriptures that the writers of the New Testament refer to are the Hebrew Bible, what

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we call the Old Testament.

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Paul, writing to Timothy, he said, all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable

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for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and righteousness.

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He said that in 2 Timothy 3.16.

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So what he's referring to is the Hebrew Bible.

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There was no canon of New Testament scripture in those days.

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And then he wrote in Romans chapter 3, verses 1 and 2.

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Verse 1 says, what advantage has the Jew or what is the superiority of the Jew, depending

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on what translation you read.

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And then in verse 2, it says, much in every way.

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For first indeed, they were entrusted with the oracles of God, the very words or the

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utterances of God.

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And the contemporary English version says, first of all, God's messages were spoken to

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the Jews.

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So that's why we should go back to the Jews to find out the nitty gritty of the Hebrew

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language.

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So I've been following Nehemia Gordon on YouTube for years and I've read two of his books.

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He's an expert in the Hebrew language because he's Jewish and he has studied it all of his

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life.

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He comes from a long line of rabbis, so he has a great teaching gift in his DNA.

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He's not a Christian.

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He's a Karait-Jew, a scripturalist, not following the rabbinic additions to the Bible, but just

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going by the Hebrew Bible itself without adding or taking away like the Pharisees of old did

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and those who follow the rabbinic sages of a thousand years ago.

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Dr. Gordon's first impression of Jesus was that he was a Karait, a scripturalist, somebody

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who's really just paying attention to what the word says.

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So as I learned from Dr. Gordon about the correct pronunciation of the name of our father,

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I became passionate to share this information.

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And if you listen to many of our podcasts, you often hear me pronounce the name Yehovah

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instead of reading the word Lord that's written all in caps, that is really just hiding the

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name and saying Lord instead of saying what the name is Yehovah.

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So a few months ago, I was hearing in my spirit the words from the Lord's prayer, hallowed

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be thy name, thy kingdom come.

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And so this thought came to me.

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So I wrote it like this in my journal, Lord, I never saw this connection before that the

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sanctification of your name Yehovah immediately precedes your kingdom coming.

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Let that sink in for a second.

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I went on to write, I have longed to participate in shedding light on the truth of your name.

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And then I heard in my spirit, I heard the Lord say, my child, I have longed for this

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as you have.

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Now is the time.

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So long story short, we connected with Dr. Gordon to record this interview.

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So he has put in decades of study into finding and confirming the correct pronunciation of

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the name of our father.

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And he's going to share a little of it in this podcast.

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Now that is not to say that we feel like we have something to be proud of because our

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father is looking at hearts.

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He's really looking at the intents of our heart.

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He's looking to find out what we're thinking about having something right.

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You know, he would rather have us mispronounce his name with the right heart than to know

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the proper pronunciation and be proud or have an attitude of superiority.

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That kind of thing is disgusting to him.

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So he really just wants us to have a pure heart.

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And knowing him is part of purifying our hearts.

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So we want you to know the importance of knowing our father's name because to know him is to

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love him.

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And if we're supposed to be loving him with all of our heart, our soul, our mind, our

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strength, how strange it would be not to know his name.

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You know, if you fall in love with somebody, love at first sight kind of thing, you want

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to know who is that person.

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What's their name?

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You want to build a relationship, but you start with wanting to know their name.

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So that's how you begin a relationship.

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So we're trying to build our relationship with our heavenly father and knowing his name

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is a part of that because we want to know him and knowing his name is important.

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And scripturally, it's time for his name to be known again, as I wrote in my journal.

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Zephaniah 3.9 says, for then I will restore to the peoples a pure language that they may

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all call on the name of, says the Lord, but we know it's Yehovah to serve him with one

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accord.

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Now we know that the restoration of the Hebrew language that began in the 1800s is a part

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of this restoration of the pure language.

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So it's time for his name to start being used again.

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And then Psalm 105.1 and verse 3 says, Oh, give thanks to Yehovah.

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Call upon his name.

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Call his name.

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Make known his deeds among the people.

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Glory in his holy name.

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Let the hearts of those rejoice who seek Yehovah.

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So just wanted to give you that little introduction.

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Here is the interview.

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Nehemia Gordon, we are so delighted to have you with us today on the Global Outpouring

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podcast.

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I've been following you for about 12 years now on YouTube and I've read two of your books.

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I was first introduced to the Hebrew Yeshua versus the Greek Jesus when Christine Darg

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was interviewing you about it.

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And I got the book and I was fascinated and then I started following you on YouTube.

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So at some point I also got your book Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence.

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So we want to talk about the name of our heavenly father as we find it in the Hebrew scriptures.

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Now I'll just say welcome.

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We're glad that you are with us and we look forward to whatever is going to roll out of

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this interview.

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Well, it's great to be here.

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Thanks for having me on the program.

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Thank you so much for joining us.

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This has been a dream of mine for a long, long, long, long time.

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And I've got a gazillion questions for you, but we're going to have to settle down and

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focus on this because I feel like it's so important.

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Let me just back up and say it this way.

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The traditional church in the English language and probably in other languages has been using

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the word Lord in all caps in the Old Testament.

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While we call it the Old Testament, we could call it the Hebrew Bible or the Tanakh.

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But that's hiding the name, the true name.

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So how did you become so passionate about discovering how to pronounce the name of our

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father?

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So, you know, I'm not a Christian.

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My background is I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and now it's called a Karait Jew.

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Which means?

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Which means strictly Old Testament.

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A lot of Judaism today is about in addition to the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh, what Christians

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call the Old Testament, there's this whole body of teaching which is considered just

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as important in some respects, more important than what's in the Bible, in the Hebrew Bible.

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And I say I'm only bound by what's in the Hebrew Bible.

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All the rest is interesting history, but I don't consider it to be the word of God.

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Meaning what a rabbi said, you know, a thousand years ago or 2200 years ago is really interesting

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history but not God's word.

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What the prophets spoke, or God spoke through the prophets, that's the word of God for me.

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So, or what they heard God speaking in the throne room, that's the word of God.

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So I look to the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh, as my scripture.

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Now in the Hebrew Bible, God's name, Yud Hei Vav Hei, which, and there's, I don't know

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if we have time to get to the whole controversy of how to pronounce it, because many people

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say Yahweh.

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My understanding is that it's Yehovah, but no one really disputes what the letters are

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in the Hebrew Yud Hei Vav Hei, which is translated in English, as you said, as Lord, but where

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that comes from is from a Jewish tradition to replace in certain contexts the name Yehovah

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with Adonai, which does mean Lord.

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It's now Yehovah appears, that name, 6827 times in the most accurate manuscripts of

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the Hebrew Bible, and Adonai appears about, I want to say 300 times, but I forget the

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exact number.

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So Adonai is a perfectly, meaning Lord, is a perfectly legitimate title for God in the

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Hebrew.

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When Moses prays, he says, be Adonai, oh my Lord, but God's name, when Moses says, what

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is your name?

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He says, Yehovah, this is my name forever.

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This is my mention from generation to generation.

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They translate it as memorial, like he's dead or something, but no, in the Hebrew word is

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this is my mention for generation to generation.

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And the fact that it appears almost 7,000 times, and this is really something that blew

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my mind when I realized it, when I learned this, the name Yehovah appears in the Hebrew

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Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament, more than all the other titles combined, more

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than Lord, more than God, more than El Shaddai, which means something like God Almighty, or

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not exactly, but that's a different conversation.

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If you take all those titles combined, they don't appear, I think even half as much as

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his name, Yehovah.

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And in ancient Jewish culture, we're told that people would greet each other in the

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name.

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You know, like how kind of we say, you know, how are you doing?

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And you say, I'm doing fine, even if you've had the worst day in your life, right?

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It's just like kind of a formality.

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So the formality they have in ancient Israel is they would say, Yehovah be with you.

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And the response was Yehovah bless you.

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And you actually see Boaz when he's walking on the road to Bethlehem.

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He sees these men harvesting in the field, they're covered in the dirt and the grime

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of their labor.

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And he says to them, Yehovah be with you.

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And they respond, Yehovah bless you.

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And then Gideon, when he meets the angel, he doesn't realize it's an angel.

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And the angel says, Yehovah be with you.

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And he thinks, oh yeah, this is a greeting, you know, okay, whatever.

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And then he finds out, no, no, Yehovah is with you.

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And that gives you the power to save Israel from the oppressors, right?

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That's what it says there.

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So then he's overcome with this, I'm going to call it a spirit.

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And then when that happens, he realizes, oh, wait, this isn't just a, you know, a glib

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greeting.

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This is actually the angel proclaiming that Yehovah is with me in this mission I've been

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sent on and I have the power to carry it out.

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So we've gone from greeting each other in the name to where my tradition, the Jewish

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tradition has made it forbidden to speak the name.

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And it's a good question why, and it's complicated and probably no time to get into all the reasons

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why.

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But really what we have is, I remember the term from about 20 years ago, they'd talked

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about mission creep, right?

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Mission creep is, you know, you go to, I don't know, Iraq to do one thing and you end up

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doing 10 other things that you didn't intend to do and spend 20 years there.

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That's mission creep.

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So we have a certain amount of mission creep in Judaism, where at first the idea was, well,

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God's name is so holy, we should only use it when we bless people.

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Well, originally it's we greeting each other in the name.

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And then it's like, you know what, let's stop greeting each other in the name.

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We're using it too loosely.

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We'll only use it in the temple.

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And then the temple's destroyed and they're still using it, but it's getting more and

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more narrow.

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And instead of Yehovah, they'll say Adonai.

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And now today, if you go to Orthodox Jews, they'll say, well, no, that name Adonai, that

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title Adonai, Lord, can only be used in a formal prayer.

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And there's a lot of formal prayers in rabbinical Judaism.

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I mean, it's not necessarily just the synagogue.

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It might be you're going to eat an apple and then you make a blessing.

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It's interesting.

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Christians bless the food.

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Jews bless God for the food.

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But when you make the blessing over the apple to God for giving you this apple, then you

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can say Adonai.

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But if we're just having a conversation or you even say to me, what's the blessing over

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the apple?

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So an Orthodox rabbi will not say the word Adonai unless he's actually making formally

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that blessing.

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So this is the mission creep.

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We've gone to using Yehovah's name, to using a replacement.

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Now even the replacement has its own replacement.

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And so the Orthodox Jews today will say Hashem, which literally just means the name instead

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of saying Adonai even.

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So we now have a replacement for a replacement.

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So that's what I call mission creep.

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Wow, wasn't there something about the name being forbidden by the Romans?

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Absolutely.

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So the Romans, this is mentioned by the Jewish historical sources and early rabbinical sources.

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There's a whole discussion in the Talmud about this rabbi who was burned at the stake and

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he was wrapped in a Torah scroll, which was then inside between the rabbi and the Torah

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scroll.

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They then put in wet, I believe it was hot, there's some kind of wet fabric to make it

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take longer to kill him.

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And the Talmud says, why was it such a brutal way and like torture, torturous way, right?

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They could have just slit his throat because he spoke the name the way it is written.

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Or he actually says he used to speak the name the way it is written, right?

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He didn't just do it once.

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It was a practice.

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And this is in the Bar Kokhba revolt, which ends around the year, well, the revolt ended

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in the year 135, but they still kept killing people for another three years.

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So this is sometime in the time of the emperor Hadrian who died.

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And if there is a hell, he went there in the year 138.

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So you're talking about the early second century AD or do you say CE?

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And this rabbi used to speak the name the way it is written and he's getting executed

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by the Romans.

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So the Romans are trying to stamp out Judaism.

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And the problem was, so they had this vast empire and it's actually quite similar to

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what the Chinese are doing today, right?

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So China has 56 different ethnic groups and they want to have one coherent unified people.

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So what they're essentially doing is, I guess what they used to call an American nation

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building and you do that by stamping out all the other cultures.

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And so making one single culture thinking that somehow that will make it more cohesive.

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I don't know that that necessarily works, but that's what that was their goal.

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That's what the Romans were trying to do.

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That's what the Greeks before them were trying to do.

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Not always the Romans doing it, meaning not every emperor did that, but Hadrian in particular

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said, look, everybody brings a sacrifice to the emperor.

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Bringing a sacrifice to the emperor who was a god in their mind is the way you show your

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loyalty.

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And if you don't bring the sacrifice, that means you're not loyal to the state.

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And the state is more important in the Roman mind than any relationship you have with some

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supreme being who created the universe.

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The Roman emperor is a god himself.

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And there was one special exception of who was allowed to not bring sacrifices and still

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be considered loyal to the state.

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And that was the Jews.

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And Hadrian comes along and he says, this is crazy.

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The Jews have revolted against us twice at this point.

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We've got to stamp out this Judaism thing and have them bring sacrifices just like everybody

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else.

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And you have to understand their perspective, the Roman perspective.

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So there was a god in Syria called Haddad.

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And the name of that god was so sacred in the mind of the Canaanites, particularly in

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what's today Lebanon and southern Syria, that they wouldn't even say the name Haddad.

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Haddad was considered an ineffable name.

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And they would call him instead of his actual name, they would call him Lord, which in the

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Canaanite language is Ba'al.

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Yeah.

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So the Romans come along and they say, you could worship any god you want as long as

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you call him Zeus.

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So, and Jupiter, Zeus in Greek and Jupiter in the Eastern Roman Empire, they spoke Greek.

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So Zeus is the same as Jupiter in the Roman minds.

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So you can continue to worship Ba'al, whose name you don't even use anyway, just call

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him Zeus.

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And the Canaanites were like, sure, if you want to call him Zeus, fine, we'll even call

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him that.

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But we know he's Haddad, he's Ba'al, we never use his name anyway.

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And the Jews refused to do this and they revolted.

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First they revolted against the Seleucid Greeks in the year 168 BCE.

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And then Hadrian's like, okay, the Greeks, the Seleucids, they had a nice little cute

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empire in the Eastern Mediterranean.

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But I'm Hadrian.

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I've reached all the way to Hadrian's wall.

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This is the largest extent of the Roman Empire up to date, at least.

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I guess Trajan was a little bit before, but it was only for two years.

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He's like, it's time they have to start worshiping our gods, including me.

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And so he goes to the Jews and tells them to do it.

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And they say, no, we worship Jehovah.

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And the Romans apparently, we say the penny drop, the dime drop, they realized, okay,

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well, if we can get rid of that name, look, so the name is the problem.

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You believe in a supreme being, we believe in a supreme being, and that supreme being

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has lots of other beings around him in the Roman mind, right?

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He has many partners, right?

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He's got a wife and he's got a daughter and he's got, you know, all kinds of other gods.

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But if we could get you to worship this one God and not call him Jehovah, then it's the

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same thing, right?

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So it's this name that was the barrier in, I guess, the Romans thought.

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In other words, I'm trying to understand why they did what they did.

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But the bottom line is they forbade Jews from speaking the name of God.

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And it's something that the Seleucid Greeks had done before.

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That's the story of Hanukkah in 168 to 165 BCE.

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Now this is 132 to 138 AD.

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And so they're forbidding Jews from speaking God's name, and Jews are being killed for

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this.

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They're being martyred for this.

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Now, there were some internal reasons that the rabbis also didn't want people speaking

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the name, and I don't know if we have time to get into that.

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Well, would there be anything like trying to preserve life that they would forbid?

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Oh, absolutely.

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So look, at this point in history, we're talking in the second century AD, the rabbis are dominating

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Jewish institutions, and they're very pragmatic.

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By pragmatic, I mean they're practical.

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There's an interesting statement in the Talmud which says there's only three things that

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you should be martyred for, and everything else just give in.

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You don't want to give in, but if it's a sword to your neck or violating some biblical or

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rabbinical principle, you violate it except for three things.

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They call that Yehareg Ba'al Yavo, the three things that one should be martyred for rather

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than violate.

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And those three things are idolatry, sexual immorality, and oh, and murder.

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Right?

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So if somebody says, I'm going to kill you if you don't kill that other person, okay,

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execute me.

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What can I do?

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Or if they say, go engage in a certain act that's forbidden sexually, no, execute me.

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Or bow down to this idol, okay, I'll be executed.

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Everything else, it's not ideal, but you're allowed to give in on everything else.

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And so if the Romans come to them and say, well, execute you if you speak the name, okay,

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I'm not going to worship Zeus, but if you say I'm not allowed to speak the name or I'll

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be killed, I'm allowed to give in on that.

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There's actually a nuance there in the Talmudic discussion about this where they say, well,

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but if they're doing this in order to show other people that you've renounced obedience

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to the Torah, then you should be martyred even over the color of the shoelaces.

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Right?

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And that's sort of this exaggeration, right?

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In other words, if Jews only wear white shoelaces and they say, okay, you got to wear black

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shoelaces to show you're no longer a Jew, then you get martyred over that.

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Right?

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I don't know that anybody actually did that.

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But the point is that there are these three things that you get martyred over and everything

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else you can give in on.

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Right?

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And so not speaking name was something the rabbis were willing to compromise.

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There are numerous examples of this in Jewish history where people who dominated the Jews,

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Jews were almost always a minority, you know, they would compromise on many principles as

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long as you didn't violate these three central principles.

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And there were a lot of Jews who were martyred over these three principles.

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There were instances where people came to the Jews and said, you have to, you know,

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convert to this religion or we'll kill you.

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And they accepted martyrdom.

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There are stories of Jews jumping off of the walls of like in the city of York in England.

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The Catholics came and said, okay, you've got to convert to Catholicism or we'll kill

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you all.

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And the Jews were held up in this fortress and they jumped off the walls and with their

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children and died because they said, we have no choice.

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We have to accept martyrdom.

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So they were trying to preserve life among other reasons that they came up with the idea

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that it's too sacred to say.

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Right.

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I mean, they already had this idea that in certain contexts is too sacred to say.

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So mission creep was very natural here because, you know, hey, I'll get killed if I say it.

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And already there are certain contexts in which I won't say it.

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So you know, let's just extend that.

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Right.

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Okay.

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But that's not what the Torah says.

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That's not what you see in like...

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They had another practical problem.

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And the practical problem was in the second century, what they defined as magic was very

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widespread and was very influential.

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And you have to remember they didn't have doctors in the modern sense.

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So you know, if you had a fever or something, they'd say, oh, do we know what to do?

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Let's cut you and draw blood.

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And I believe that's what killed George Washington.

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Yes, I think so.

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Which isn't that long ago, right?

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He was killed by doctors who led him.

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Well, they were doing that in the second century, right?

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Romans were doing that already.

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And that was cutting edge science and technology as far as they believed.

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Well, in that kind of situation, people turn to magicians and the magician will do like

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eye of newt type stuff.

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Right.

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And I mean, literally they would do things like take dust from a grave and mix it and

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make a solution and have somebody drink it and you know, the grave of a special person,

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right?

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Not just anybody.

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And then part of that is you pronounce God's name in healing.

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Now where does prayer end and magic begin?

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Boy, that's a whole discussion.

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But in the minds of the rabbis, this was magic.

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And so in opposition to magic, they also limited the use of the name, right?

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So there was an external reason, the Roman persecution and an internal reason, which

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was, you know, if somebody comes to me and says, if I'm a rabbi, somebody comes to me

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and says, you know, I have a compound fracture.

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I'm going to die in a couple hours.

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And I say, well, there's nothing I can do.

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And I go to the magician, the magician says, oh, I'm going to perform the ceremony.

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And of course, when the guy dies, he says, you know, I didn't perform the ceremony just

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right.

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I mispronounced one of the words or I didn't have the, you know, I didn't take the dust

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in the right way or people were talking in the back, right?

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There's always an excuse of why it didn't work.

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And then sometimes it does work, maybe not for a compound fracture, but sometimes, you

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know, people are sick and they just call it what you will, right?

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Call it demonic forces or call it maybe naturalistic processes that people just get over disease.

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Every time that happens, then the magician takes credit.

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And when it doesn't work out, okay, well, it's probably your fault because you didn't

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have enough faith or something or somebody spoke during the ceremony or something, right?

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That was, you know, they had all kinds of excuses.

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So the rabbis are combating this magic and there's actually a really interesting story

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in the Talmud about what the rabbis considered to be magic, but what seems to be some sort

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of early Christians who were healing in the name of Yeshua.

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And there's a discussion what happens if someone's going to die if they, like they're too sick

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to choose, get healed in the name of Yeshua or die.

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And the rabbis say you should die because that's idolatry and it's magic.

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And then they tell the story of this one rabbi who was bitten by a snake and someone comes

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to heal him and he has seconds to decide and he accepts death, which is really interesting.

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So the rabbis were wrapping up this whole thing of magic with what they perceived to

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be magic, which was Christian's healing in the name of Jesus.

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Or I mean, in Hebrew it was Yeshua, right?

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It wasn't Jesus.

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Wow, so this is very interesting.

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What I also want to have you explain is how you discovered the actual name of Yehovah.

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So for that I'm going to refer people, since we're running out of time, to I have a series

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online called the Open Door series.

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And I believe there's an episode called The Tower that Still Stands.

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00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,800
It was at this point 13 years ago, so I don't remember exactly what it's called.

456
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520
But go to my website, nechemizwaal.com and you can hear the whole story.

457
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,120
I don't think I can do it justice right now.

458
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,760
I also have a book called Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence where I talk about that.

459
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,320
That was a really long time ago and I've discovered a lot more things since then.

460
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,840
So that was the tip of the iceberg.

461
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,560
Well, let me ask you this.

462
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:37,800
So the last I heard you had found 19 rabbis that had written about how to pronounce the

463
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,920
name and is it still just 19 or have you found some more?

464
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Let's call it 19 for now.

465
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,740
And frankly, if we have two, I feel like we're in really solid territory.

466
00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:52,200
So there are these medieval rabbinical discussions.

467
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,240
So let's back up.

468
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,160
So the rabbis are under pressure externally and internally and they say not only will

469
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,040
we not use the name outside the temple and not only will we not use the name in certain

470
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,520
contexts, we won't use it at all.

471
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400
We'll completely replace it with Lord without Oni.

472
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:12,120
And that then influences the Christians when they translate their Bibles, they end up writing

473
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Lord through a few intermediaries, but that's how it ends up happening.

474
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,080
So now fast forward and there's a rabbi named Maimonides who says, you know, we don't even

475
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,300
know how to pronounce the name, right?

476
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:25,800
We don't know what the vowels are.

477
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,040
We don't know if there's a certain letter where we know what the letters are, Yud, Hei,

478
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Ba, Fei, but what are the vowels?

479
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,040
We don't know.

480
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,480
I believe Maimonides did not know.

481
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,640
But we have other rabbis who talk about the secret of the name and they at least they

482
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,040
believe that they knew and they are pretty consistent.

483
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,840
Now I say pretty consistent because there's one exception of a rabbi who offers an alternative

484
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,920
pronunciation, but we have all these, one rabbi in particular, who off the top of my

485
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:04,440
head I want to say was in the 13th century in Europe and he says, maybe he was 14th century,

486
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,960
I don't remember off the top of my head, but he makes the statement that the name is, he

487
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,960
actually doesn't say it's Yehovah.

488
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600
He says it has the same vowels of the word li olam.

489
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Now li olam is the word that means forever.

490
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,880
And he says when God says this is my name forever, which is in Exodus 3.15, he's actually

491
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680
hinting at what the pronunciation is.

492
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,520
So li olam is et oa, which becomes Yehovah.

493
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,040
And then he says this was revealed to him by the man of his secret, right?

494
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,640
So there was some kind of culture in medieval Judaism where people, and this is mentioned

495
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,040
already in the Talmud where it says that the name is not to be taught to the common man,

496
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,320
the pronunciation of the name that is, but it's to be transmitted once every seven years

497
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,400
from rabbi to disciple.

498
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,720
And you think it's kind of throwaway line in the Talmud in 500 AD, right?

499
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,640
But here we have almost, you know, 800, 900 years later, we have a rabbi saying, yeah,

500
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,000
someone revealed this to me.

501
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,360
And the name is the same vowels as li olam, meaning Yehovah.

502
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400
So and then you have other rabbis who say similar things.

503
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Beautiful.

504
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,900
So the reason why I think it's really important for us to know the name, and there are scriptures

505
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:22,040
that talk about the Gentiles shall know my name and swearing in the name.

506
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:28,200
And I just am amazed at the times that you see where it says that Lord is my name.

507
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,720
And obviously it's not.

508
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,960
So it's important for us, I believe, to know because of what it means.

509
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Can you explain what it means?

510
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,560
So, well, the name Yehovah means he that was, he that is, and he that will be.

511
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,520
It is for nearly 2000 years, at least that's how Jews have understood it.

512
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,200
And I think that's correct based on there is what's called a parinamosia or Hebrew word

513
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,200
pun.

514
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,640
I don't have time to get into that, but Exodus 3 14, God says, I will be that which I will

515
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,640
be.

516
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,320
So he says my name is Yehovah.

517
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Right?

518
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,560
So he says I will be and we refer to him as Yehovah, which is a combination of three forms

519
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,520
of the Hebrew verb, ha-ya-ho-ve-ye, he was, he is, and he will be.

520
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,160
And there's almost no question, I think most, well, I don't know, scholars accept that in

521
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,180
the book of Revelation, when it talks about he that was and he that is and he that is

522
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:30,400
to come, that it's aware of this Jewish explanation of the name and is tying into that.

523
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Right?

524
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,560
In other words, there's a passage in Revelation where the angels say, holy, holy, holy is,

525
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,400
I'm sure I'm misquoting it, is the Lord, I think it says they're almighty or something

526
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400
like that.

527
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Yes, the Lord God Almighty.

528
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,400
I think it's Panto-Culture.

529
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,040
Who was and who is and who is to come.

530
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Right, exactly.

531
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:53,680
So what it's actually taking is a phrase that appears in Isaiah 6, kadosh, kadosh, kadosh,

532
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Yehovah, tzibaot, holy, holy, holy is Yehovah of hosts.

533
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,960
And then it adds to that the explanation of that name, he that was, he that is, and he

534
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800
that is to come.

535
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440
Now we could have a whole conversation about the difference between he that will be and

536
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720
he that is to come, but we probably don't have time for that.

537
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,200
That's a separate thing.

538
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:18,600
And it seems pretty clear to me at least that this is based on this Jewish understanding

539
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:25,380
of the name, meaning he that was, he that is, and he that will be, which is the explanation

540
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:26,380
of the name.

541
00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:28,640
Now names in Hebrew have explanations.

542
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Sometimes they have multiple explanations, by the way, I mean, often they do.

543
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Right?

544
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,920
So Jacob is called Yaakov in Hebrew because he grabs onto his brother's heel and the word

545
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:44,280
a cave is heel, but then his brother Asab says, he has deceived me twice.

546
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,280
And the word for deceived is Yaakoveni.

547
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Right?

548
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,720
So there's two meanings.

549
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,680
There's the original meaning when he was named, which is that he grabbed onto his brother's

550
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,840
heel and then his brother flips it on his head and says, no, this references him as

551
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,840
a deceiver.

552
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,840
Right?

553
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200
So, he's a usurper.

554
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,620
So it's very common for there to be two name explanations.

555
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:08,560
The nation that came out of Asab, the brother of Jacob, is called a dome.

556
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560
And why is he called a dome?

557
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,500
Well, there's two different reasons given in Genesis and they're both true.

558
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,760
One reason is that he came out already, meaning red, because a dome means red.

559
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,920
And the other reason is he sold his birthright for red lentil stew.

560
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,960
And red is a dome and lentil is a dome.

561
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,760
So it's ha-a-dome, ha-a-dome, the red lentil.

562
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560
And so we have two, you could even say three reasons, because lentil and red.

563
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Right?

564
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,560
And they're both common.

565
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,920
So the name Yehovah means, is related to I will be that which I will be and is related

566
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,280
to he was, he is, and he is to come.

567
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,280
Thank you.

568
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,200
And I remember that you wrote something also about when he says, I am that I am, that's

569
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,160
how it's translated into English.

570
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,140
And you wrote about that I will be that which I will be.

571
00:34:56,140 --> 00:35:01,080
Can you give us that explanation about how it's more than just once?

572
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Right.

573
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Well, so the Hebrew verb system, people have literally written entire dissertations, doctoral

574
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,280
dissertations on the Hebrew verbs.

575
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaking English today, we have past, present, and future.

576
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,560
In Biblical Hebrew is a bit more complicated.

577
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:21,960
And that's why when he says, Ehayah, sheh-ehayah, which we translate I am that I am, many Jews

578
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,280
will say, no, it means I will be that which I will be, which is based on the modern Hebrew.

579
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,960
And in this case, by modern Hebrew, it was true also, 1900 years ago as well in Hebrew,

580
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,720
you shift over to these three tenses.

581
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,840
But that's a bit complicated.

582
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,440
I want to end with a passage from Joel.

583
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:44,280
In the Hebrews, chapter 3 verse 5, I see in the King James, it's chapter 2 verse 32.

584
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,240
It says in the King James, it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call in the name

585
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,600
of the Lord shall be delivered.

586
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Come on.

587
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,440
And in the Hebrew it says, and Lord, there is an all caps, it says in the Hebrew, and

588
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:08,600
it shall come to pass that everyone who calls in the name of Yehovah will escape.

589
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:14,160
So there's going to be this end times bad stuff that happens, and the people who call

590
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,800
in the name of Yehovah will escape from that calamity.

591
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,200
So it seems like this is an important name that we should know.

592
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:28,720
Beautiful, absolutely, absolutely, and it also has to do with the fact that there are

593
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:33,680
so many other names out there that people are worshiping, that if you're having a discussion

594
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,480
with them and you talk about God, they're thinking about their God when you're thinking

595
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,080
about your God.

596
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,320
And that's why another reason I think that it's important for us to know his name.

597
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,720
Oh, and this was the whole point of the Romans.

598
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:50,640
The Romans said if we can get people to call on, to just use God, we know that God is Zeus

599
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,740
and Jupiter.

600
00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:55,960
And they don't know that yet, but they'll eventually get it.

601
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:04,120
But if instead of God, you say Yehovah, well, no, Yehovah is not the same as Zeus and Jupiter.

602
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,760
And this is something, look, I've had this interesting conversation with Muslims.

603
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,360
I'll ask them, do you worship the same God that I worship?

604
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Oh, 100% absolutely, unequivocally.

605
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Do you worship Yehovah?

606
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Who's that?

607
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,440
Never heard of him, no way.

608
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,440
What?

609
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Exactly.

610
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,320
Oh, but in the Hebrew Bible, he's called Yehovah 6,828 times.

611
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Oh, well, now some Muslims will say, okay, yeah, okay, sure, Yehovah is the same as Allah.

612
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Others will say no, but in the original Bible, it said Allah and you Jews changed it.

613
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,440
Right?

614
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,280
That's this idea of the corruption of scripture.

615
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,720
They have this theology about that or something.

616
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:41,720
Yeah.

617
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,040
So yeah, it's really interesting, right?

618
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,740
If he has a name, if he's the generic God, then he is Allah.

619
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:54,040
If he has that specific name, well, some Muslims will say yes and some will say no.

620
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,440
It's really interesting.

621
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:01,440
I've heard this conversation between Christians talking about Islam, where they'll say, oh

622
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,580
no, they don't worship the same God as we do because they don't believe that Jesus is

623
00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:08,240
part of the Godhead.

624
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,760
And of course, as a Jew, I say, well, what about us?

625
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Oh no, no, no, no, you guys worship the same God.

626
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,240
No, no, no.

627
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,400
And which is really interesting because like, wait a minute.

628
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,200
So, and I do think we worship the same God.

629
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,400
So for me, it's important that if he says this is my name forever, this is my mention

630
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,000
for generation to generation, I should take that seriously.

631
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Absolutely.

632
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,160
And I should do my best to fulfill that.

633
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,160
Amen.

634
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Well, we hope that we can have you back another time to talk about lots of other things.

635
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Sounds good.

636
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,800
And that we'll have more time to talk.

637
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,160
We had some technical difficulties that shortened things up for us today.

638
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:54,400
But we just want to say thank you so, so very much for being with us today and look forward

639
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,240
to the next opportunity.

640
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,240
Thanks for having me.

641
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,240
Shalom.

642
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,180
Shalom, shalom.

643
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:05,760
So we're so grateful to Dr. Nehemia Gordon for sharing this with us.

644
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,100
And I just want to add something that he didn't have time to add.

645
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,940
We were having technical difficulties at the beginning of this and lost a lot of our time

646
00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:19,040
that we were going to have that would have been an opportunity for him to share some

647
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,720
of these things that I'm just going to fill in from his website.

648
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:29,040
There's an article on his website that we will put a link to in the show notes so that

649
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,840
you can get the rest of the story.

650
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,040
But I'm just going to give you a little smattering of what I was asking him about that he didn't

651
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,120
have time to explain.

652
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,600
And so he says in this article, the name Yehovah derives from the three-letter root.

653
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:50,560
And he spells it in Roman letters, you know, our letters, H-Y-H, which would be he-yod-he,

654
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,500
which means to be.

655
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:58,360
We know this from Exodus 314 in which the Almighty explains His name as Echieh asher

656
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,140
Echieh.

657
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:06,960
The word Echieh is an imperfect verb from the root H-Y-H, meaning to be.

658
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,900
In later Hebrew, the imperfect form took on the meaning of future.

659
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:16,780
But in biblical Hebrew, it primarily expresses repetitive action.

660
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:23,780
In plain English, Echieh means I am now and I will continue to be in the future.

661
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:31,600
This is why Echieh, asher Echieh can be translated as I am that which I am, but also as I will

662
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,780
be that which I will be.

663
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:38,900
Both of these translations are correct, even if they are a bit inaccurate.

664
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:45,660
An accurate translation would be I am now and will continue to be in the future that

665
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:50,260
which I am now and will continue to be in the future.

666
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:51,740
That's quite a mouthful.

667
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:55,580
And you can see why most translations prefer to dumb it down.

668
00:40:55,580 --> 00:41:03,660
Yehovah comes from the same root as Echieh, the hollow root H-Y-H. Yehovah is actually

669
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:11,940
a combination of three verb forms, H-Y-H, he was, H-O-V-E, he is, and Ye-H-E, he is

670
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:14,860
now and will continue to be in the future.

671
00:41:14,860 --> 00:41:21,600
Together, H-Y-H, H-O-V-E, and Ye-H-E combine into the name Yehovah.

672
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:29,320
And as Dr. Gordon said, you can go to his website, Nehemiahzwal.com, and you can order

673
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,420
his books there.

674
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:36,200
I particularly recommend the Hebrew Yeshua versus the Greek Jesus and Shattering the

675
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,860
Conspiracy of Silence.

676
00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:43,780
This one, Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence is covering so much more of the things that

677
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:45,160
he talked about today.

678
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,660
And you'll enjoy these things.

679
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:53,900
And we'll also put a link to some of the explanations that he has on other videos that you can watch.

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And if you're interested in knowing more about this, we've got some good resources in our

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show notes.

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And we just want to bless you as we close.

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Yehovah, bless you and keep you.

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Yehovah, make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you.

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Yehovah, lift up his countenance upon you and give you his shalom, his peace, where

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there's nothing broken and nothing missing.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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