(244) “The Love of God from Heaven's Perspective” with Dean Braxton

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when I looked into his eyes and I saw the love he had for me like it would outlast me.

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That was my best English interpretation of that love. And yet, what was really going

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on was his love was growing for me every moment. And even in heaven, as I was grasping the

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love of Jesus for me, I was still behind in how much he loved me. I would think he loved

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me and yet he loved me more than that in that moment.

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God promises in Joel 2.28 to pour out his Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global

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Outpouring where we contend for that promise outpouring, we equip for that outpouring so

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that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Bus.

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And I'm Sharon Bus. Welcome to the podcast today. We're so glad that you're with us.

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This one has the potential of changing your life. We have with us again today, our dear

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friend Dean Braxton, who spent an hour and 45 minutes outside of his body when his body

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died and the medical team was working on him for all that time. And he went where you're

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supposed to go when you're a Christian, when you have Jesus in your heart, in your life

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as your Lord and Savior. Today, we're going to talk with Dean about something that's so

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important for all of us because I don't think any of us really get the totality of how much

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God loves us. But Dean is going to talk about God's love from heaven's perspective.

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Thank you so much for joining us today. Before we get started with our interview with Dean

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Braxton, we want to encourage you if you haven't already done so to go to our website and sign

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up for our email lists. It's global outpouring.net and you can send us some feedback. We got some

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really good feedback today. And it gave me an idea and I've presented it to Dean that

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we could do an interview with him with questions from our listeners. So if you have questions

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in your heart about heaven and about the things that Dean has experienced, why don't you send

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us a feedback email or you can fill out the feedback form on the website. The feedback

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email address is feedback at global outpouring.org or the podcast page is global outpouring.net

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and the feedback form is there. So be sure to send us your questions so that we can share

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them with Dean the next time that we interview him and we'll select the questions that we

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have time for and that the Holy Spirit is breathing on and looking forward to that.

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And you can come to our convention, Convention 2025, May 21st through 24th. Dean is going

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to be one of our speakers and he is going to have an entire session of questions and

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answers so you can come and ask him your questions in person. So get that on your calendar. When

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you're on our website, click on the events tab and you will see the Convention 2025 event

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there and you can make your reservations at the St. Louis Airport Marriott Hotel and plan

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to be with us. It's going to be a life changing experience for all of us. We're looking for

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more of the glory to be showing up. We're looking for that outpouring of the Holy Spirit

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where there will be no ebb. It's just going to roll in and never roll out again. Hallelujah.

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Dean Braxton, it is such a blessing, a blessing, a blessing for us. Every time that you come

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on this podcast with us, we so appreciate you. We so appreciate the fact that as an

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evangelist getting people saved all the time, that's your focus. But the Lord has told you

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that you can open up some other things among us and we're just grateful to the Lord. We're

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so grateful. So welcome again today.

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Well, it's great to be here with you and Phil and being able to share with the people out

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there the things that I experienced when I was with the Father in Jesus in heaven. Like

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you said, I'm an evangelist. And Sharon, before we go any further, I just feel like I need

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to read this. I've said it before. But the reason I do this is because, you know, I was

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praying for this podcast and I said, God, make this podcast even greater than the last

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few podcasts we've had.

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Amen.

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To reach even more people than we've ever reached before with your insight, with your

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word, but also with insight. But I always have to build off the foundation of what God

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has called me to do. And I think I told you that a few months ago now, he's told me I

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was an intercessor first, you know, and then an evangelist second, and then comes the heavenly

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experience. And I'm really, because of the last few months, coming to understand that

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intercessor. I enjoy praying for people. I enjoy interceding for people. I pray over

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people's pictures. And in that, I get to see things. But I get to see things that God wants

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me to see for that person and how he wants to advance them and use them in his kingdom.

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So I get to pray for those things. I believe my prayer time is my time to go to my father

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and say, I get to pray for one of your children, our intercede or stand in the gap for one

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of your children. And he talks back to me. And we're really just having a communication

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time between me and him about that person. And I enjoyed that. It's just a lot of fun.

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It's like if you get to talk about one of your grandchildren with someone else. And

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you enjoy just talking about them. Yeah, there's shortcomings there. There's things they could

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change. But in the sense of when you're talking about them, it just brings great joy. And

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that's what I see when the Father's talking to me when I'm interceding for people. And

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I never sought to be that type of person. It's ironic. The two things in the kingdom

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of God I never sought after, I am. That is interceding for people or intercessor and

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evangelist. There were the two probably on the bottom of my list of things I would have

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wanted to be in the kingdom of God. And yet I have a big smile when I'm telling you about

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both of them. But one of the things that the God gave me is something that I speak over

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myself every day. And I want to bring that out before we go any further. And it's something

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that he gave me kind of like a covering, you know, a purpose, a reason why I'm on the planet.

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And this is what it is. And I've taken scripture and put this together, it says, the Spirit

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of the Lord is upon me, Dean, and he has anointed me, Dean, to preach the gospel, the good news.

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And it's found out in Luke 4, 18, to tell everyone in the world of his great love for

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them, my goals are to show, tell, and remind people of this. For this is the way God loved

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them, the world. He gave his one and only son so that everyone who believes in him will

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not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world to condemn

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the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him,

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Jesus Christ, is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already,

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because he has not believed in the name of the one and only son of God. That's John 3,

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16-18. And then I go on to say, he has sent me, Dean, to heal the brokenhearted, to preach

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deliverance to the captive, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them

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that are bruised, to preach the sufferer year of the Lord. And that's found in Luke 4, 18,

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19. And then I say, in the authority of Jesus Christ. And I speak that over myself every

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day just to remind me and keep my eyes focused on why I am on this planet, you know, to be

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able to fulfill the purpose that God has called me. There's a lot of things I love. I love

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great teaching. Oh man, do I love great teaching. I love it. I love it. And I can't really say

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I could move in the ministry I have unless someone is teaching me. And so I look at that.

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I'm an evangelist. My major goal is to bring people into the kingdom of God. And then someone

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else takes over and starts teaching them. And I understand that. But don't think I don't

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love teaching. I love great teaching. I think it loves it, you know. But that's not what

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God has called me to mainly do. But in this show, I get to explore in that area. You know,

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it's one of the doors that He's opened up to say, hey, we can go into this realm on

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this show. So you that are listening to this podcast, this is not my norm. Like I always

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say, I'm called to be evangelist. You heard the mantra that's over my life, you know,

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the anointing that's over my life. But this area, I get to open up and share. And once

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I leave it, I don't get to share it that often in any other area. So that's what I just wanted

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to share with you as we get going. Amen. Well, I have to say this for the sake of the listeners.

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I have not shared with you what's on my heart to bring today. Yeah. And I asked you if you

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had anything particular and you said, no, I'll follow your lead. So what the Lord gave

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me was here's the title, The Love of God from Heaven's Perspective. Yeah. And a few days

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ago, I texted you and I said, would it be accurate to say that the glory of God is His

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love? Yes. And you texted back. Yes, His glory makes love. Light is His love. And then you

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gave me, 1st Timothy 6, 16, who alone has immortality dwelling in unapproachable light,

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whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. And then

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you said, He is glory. He lives in glory. We were created out of the glory. So I've

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been meditating on this and something that I was listening to, I don't even remember

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now what it was, used the scripture, 1st John 3, 16. I love how John 3, 16 and 1st John

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3, 16 correlate. Yes. Who would have put that together? I don't think that the people who

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put in the chapters and numbers deliberately did that. I think it's one of those things

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that the Holy Spirit did. But 1st John 3, 16 from the New King James says, by this we

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know love because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives

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for the brethren. Now, a few episodes ago, we talked about being a servant in heaven.

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But I'd like for you to talk some more about your experience and how the Lord demonstrated

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to you His love and showing you His love. You talk about how you were on your hands

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and knees and His feet were loving you and those kinds of things. But my heart is that

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we would grasp, I don't think grasp is the right word, that we would comprehend that

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we would receive the love of God and not just intellectually. Because we know John 3, 16

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for God so loved the world, but we don't know it necessarily experientially. That there's

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something deeper that God wants to do in us so that we can operate on earth as it is in

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heaven.

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Right, right. Well, you know, I see a whole lot going on in my mind.

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Take it from here.

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Just open three chapters.

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There's so many areas that I could go in because, you know, I think for myself, I'll take a

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very personal, you know, entering the heaven, that was one of the things that probably I

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could say when I came back to the planet, that I really saw how short I was in was love,

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period. And I'm not just saying I'm talking about agape love, we always break it down

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into the other forms of love here on the planet. But us that are born again, we have the ability

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to have that agape love. Because we are created in His image, we are His offspring. And everything

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that He is, He placed within us to be able to be.

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And so sometimes we don't realize we can literally be that love ourselves. Usually I'm trying

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to bring that love to people so that they can be healed. You know, I really believe

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that's the major ingredient for healing. And I'm not just talking about emotional healing

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or stability in a person's life. I'm talking about physical healing. I'm believing that

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if we could literally accept the love that God has for us, we would be physically healed.

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A lot of us say we were doing it. But then there's something that's stopping us from

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fully accepting that love. And sometimes we don't realize what it is. I think sometimes

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it's not not forgiving somebody that inhibits the love for us to fully receive it. I think

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it's sometimes not being obedient in things. That fully inhibits the love that God wants

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us to have. Because within both of those areas, anything God gives us to do is in love. So

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for us to deny an area that He wants to give us, we're literally denying the fullness of

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His love for us at that moment. And I think that was one of the things that really got

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me when I got back to the planet is how I thought I was receiving the fullness of His

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love, especially in John 3.16. And then, like you said, 1 John 3.16. And yet, I didn't know

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I was denying His love in many areas of my life. Now, I was doing like most human beings

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do. We were looking for a feeling, you know, the feel like we're loved and the feel good.

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And His love, it brings good feelings afterwards, but it's not always the feeling that is the

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love. You know, it's just knowing that God loves you. But coming away from there, I kind

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of had this idea of Sharon that really hit me hard. We were created for His love. Not

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just created in His love, not just created in a sense of just being created, but we were

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created. I mean, we were wired for His love. My very being, every cell that I'm made of,

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every DNA that someone wants to say I have, my eyes were created for the love of God.

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My fingers were created for the love of God. Every portion of my being was literally created

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for His love. You know what I mean?

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And so, I didn't understand it to the fullness of coming back to the planet. But then I figured

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I didn't have to understand it. I just have to accept it. And that's hard for us to do

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sometimes because of the, what do you say, Adam, when he did that fruit and thought the

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tree of knowledge, the good and evil. You know, that knowledge that we gain is to search

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out the good and the evil. So, we're always trying to look at what something, why we deserve

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something. You know what I mean?

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Oh, grab that. Grab that.

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And I was literally trying to figure out why do we deserve this? And yet we were created

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for it. That's the most I can. And so, when you get to heaven, you just blend in. It's

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like you melt away. You're there, but you just melt away within that environment because

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of the love. It's like, this is where you're supposed to be. This is what it was always

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supposed to be like. And you're finally grasping it to the fullness. And it's expanding every

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moment. That was the other thing that really got me. And that's what I saw in the eyes

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of Jesus. And even talking to you kind of still shakens me in saying this to you. When

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I looked into his eyes and I saw the love he had for me like it would outlast me, that

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was my best English interpretation of that love.

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Wow.

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And yet, what was really going on was his love was growing for me every moment. And

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even in heaven, as I was grasping the love of Jesus for me, I was still behind in how

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much he loved me. And you've got to understand how quick of a thought I had at the moment

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of knowing that he loved me. I would think he loved me, and yet he loved me more than

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that in that moment. You got to think about us as human beings on the planet. Any thought

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we have that comes into our being is always challenged by another thought. You understand

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what I mean? There's always another thought challenging it. It may be a good thought,

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it may be a bad thought, but it's being challenged. That thought that you have in your head right

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now is already … some other thought is trying to come in and challenge it. In heaven, there's

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no challenging of your thoughts at all. Nothing is challenging your thoughts and how you think.

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And so, the next thing you know, you're receiving the pureness of it in the quickness that you

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can. And yet, I could not, even with that in me, receive the pureness of his love in

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the quickness that I could because it was still slower than how much he loved me.

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That's falling short of the glory, huh?

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That's falling short of the glory. But you were created for it. And it wasn't just that

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he loved me and it was there always, he created it. In his thinking, I'm just talking about

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Jesus, I'm not even going to the Father yet. In his thinking, he created the next moment

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of love and then the next moment of love and the next moment of love and the next moment

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of love. So, God is creating love for us every moment in his thinking. How do you even grasp

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that? You can't. The most we can do is just receive it. You and I both had grandchildren

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and I love grandchildren. Our own children were like this too, but then they got older.

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And so, you know how that is.

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But one thing about a grandchild that I love so much and my grandchildren is that when

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grandpa's around, it doesn't matter what he looks like, doesn't matter how he talks,

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it doesn't matter if my hair is combed, it doesn't matter if my eyebrows are this way,

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I'm grandpa. And they know one thing when I look at them, I love them. I'm not loving

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them because they look so good. I'm not loving them because they're acting good. I'm not

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loving them because I'm loving them because they're my grandchildren. You understand what

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I mean? And I am amazed at the greatness I get of being able to love them.

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It's a privilege for me to even love them. That's what I'm thinking as I'm looking at

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them. And I was looking at my granddaughter the other day and she looked at me and she

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said, grandpa, what are you looking at? I'm just looking at you. You know what I mean.

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But you know why you're looking at them. You love them.

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And that's what it was like for Jesus with me when I looked into his eyes. And I didn't

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know he created love for me every moment. I came to understanding that he personally

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created love for me of God Almighty that was being given to me. This is talking about the

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Father. I came to understand that when I was created inside of my mother's womb, that when

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the Spirit of God and our fleshly being got together and created me in that moment, God

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created love for me. I know that for a fact. And every human being has their own individual

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love being created. I don't know what is created out of. I don't know where it's coming from.

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I just know God put it together just for me. I understood that at that moment. I was created

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for that love and that love was created for me. And so it was a perfect match when I was

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there with the Father in Jesus in heaven. To the point that I say the next thing, and

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you've heard me, both of you heard me say this before, and it ruffles feathers when

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I say this, but I gotta say it, okay? And I'm not taking anything away from Jesus Christ.

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You know, I'm not trying to come up with another religion or another way of belief system.

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But I'm trying to get people to understand the massness of this love that we have that

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is created for us. I want you to understand that this love was created for us before Jesus

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Christ existed. And so what do you mean before existed? I'm not talking about the Word of

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God. It's existed always, which is God Almighty, which is Jesus Christ, okay? But when he became

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a human being on the planet, then he became what we call the savior, the salvation, you

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know, the Emmanuel on the planet. Before that being was created, okay, inside of Mary, God

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Almighty had love for us before that happened. Yes. Okay? And sometimes what we think it's

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after that happened. No, he loved us before that happened. Even in that simple statement

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that you made at John 3.16, for God so loved the world, you can make it more personal,

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for God so loved you before Jesus Christ. He loved you. He created love for you before

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Jesus Christ. Someone's got to grasp what I just said. Because if you could grasp that,

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and then it came through Jesus Christ because of what Jesus Christ did. So we receive that

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love now because of Jesus Christ, because of what he did. But you got to understand

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he loved you before it happened. And I thought, whoa, this is something. No one ever really

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expressed that to me, the love that God Almighty had for me before Jesus Christ was even created.

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And then listen to this, this was cool. This is the thing that I ruffled feathers with.

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And I apologize to anybody that says, I don't know about that. You know, the good thing

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about it, you're born again. You know, Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. You have the Holy

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Spirit on the inside of you. You go to heaven anyway. Okay. And this doesn't get you into

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heaven. Jesus does. Just know that. What I'm going to tell you is something that really

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hit me hard. And every time I say it, I almost want to start crying. I feel so grateful.

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I feel like, God Almighty, you love me that much. And this is what I'm getting ready to

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say. And somebody you need to hear that this is going to cause healing in somebody's body

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just by hearing it. Okay. That God Almighty would have came after me even if Jesus Christ

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didn't die on that cross. So when I know somebody, wait, wait, wait, wait, he had to die. It was

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prophesying that. I know all that. Don't think I don't know that. He did exactly what he

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was supposed to do. We know that he wrestled with it in the garden. And he said, not my

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will, but your will be done. And we're the results of that happening. But if for whatever

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reason I can't say it would have happened, but for whatever reason, if it didn't happen,

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he didn't do what God wanted him to do. Guess what? God would have found another way to

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redeem me. Now that's love. That is love. You've got to understand it comes through

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Jesus. But God love you. You know what I mean? You know, it's in John 3, 16, for God so loved

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the world that he sent Jesus. Because he loved the world. Like you were saying just before

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Jesus was here, God loved the world. Yeah. That's right. He is love. He is love. He is

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love. And that tells you something. Yeah. I'm laughing about it because some people

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are not going to like this. That means you're love too. If we're his offspring, think about

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it. You know, we have the attributes of God. You know, I was reading a book recently of

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somebody and they were talking about having the characteristics of Jesus. You know what

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I mean? And I think Galatians 5, 22 through 23 verse gives you the characteristics of

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Jesus, which we call the fruit of the spirit. That means we can have those two within us.

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And whether you go love colon and then these are all the things of love or you just say

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love and then gentleness, it doesn't matter what it is. These are the attributes you're

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supposed to have. You understand what I'm talking about? Right. You designed us for

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that. You're wired for it. You know, I'm having a house built, me and Marilyn, and we got

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to go and do a walkthrough through it recently and it's just the frame. The framing. You

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know, just the framing and the inside. We're afraid no walls were up or anything like that.

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But the man was going through telling us where all the wires were going to be, what the plumbing

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is going to be like and where it's going to come this way and that way. That house is

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being built in such a way so that we can live in it. Think about that. Well, we were built

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for those attributes of Galatians, the fifth chapter, the 22nd through the 23rd verse.

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So those things can live within us. Yes. Yes. Oh, wow. Oh, it's so beautiful. We're wired

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for those things. The thing about it is just like that house, I got to go turn on the spigot

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for the water to come out. You understand what I mean? Sure. I got to go and turn on

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the spigot for the joy to come out. I got to go on and turn on the spigot for the gentleness

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to come out. I got to go and turn on the spigot for the long suffering to come out or the

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self-control to come out because I'm wired for it. They're already …

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That's beautiful. Beautiful. Yes. And if the pipes get clogged, which they can every

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once in a while, by a number of things, the Bible says, get ready to help somebody here

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because they don't like this word. And I'm going to say it's called holiness. Okay?

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Yeah. God wants you to be holy. He wants your pipes

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cleaned all the time so that you can control that which you are created to be able to express

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can flow out easily. That means you have to keep yourself pure. That's what holiness

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is all about, is you taking the time to keep yourself pure and stay away from some things

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that will clog up your pipes. Oh boy. I know somebody's laughing hard right now.

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No, it's good. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.

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But we were created for that love. Now, I just talked about some of the love that I

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expressed when I first came with Jesus and some of the love I expressed with God Almighty

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that it's growing every moment. By the time I end this podcast, by the time who's ever

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listening to this podcast get done with it, they're going to be loved more by God. You

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know what I mean? I thought some of us, we still have a hard time with being worthy.

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And God never created you to be worthy of his love. He just created you to accept his

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love. That's good. That's so good.

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So you're just going to be loved whether you like it or not. And I know somebody just said

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to, well, if he loved me, then he'll just let me do whatever I want to do and go everywhere

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I want to go and be anyone I want to be. That's what real love is about. That's human love.

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You guys know reciprocal love. In the sense that if you act this way, then I love you.

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And yet God's going to love you whatever way you act. But that doesn't mean that he wants

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you to keep acting that way because he knows how it harms you.

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Exactly. I got some grandchildren, great grandchildren

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really in my life that are babies. And they will play with things that are dangerous for

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them. It's true. It's true. I don't know how that

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is. They reach for the most dangerous things.

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But I love them. And so if I love them, like I say I do, what am I going to do? I'm going

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to stop them from harming themselves. The things that God has put in his word are really

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to stop us from harming ourselves. I know we look at it in the sense of it makes him

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look good or this and that. But in reality, the things that he wants out of us are to

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stop us from harming ourselves. Yes, it helps us to be the best vehicle we can for him in

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the kingdom of God, us that want to serve him. But the primary reason is for us not

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to harm ourselves. It destroys us and it clogs the pipes. As I say again, it just clogs the

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pipes. So I say to people a lot of times, and you've heard me say this Sharon and Phil,

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and I'll say it again, he's chosen you. He just wants you to choose him. That's the

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pureness of that love. Pureness of the love is the choice. I think I told you this story

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where this little boy came up to me one time and he said to me, Dean, if Lucifer rebelled

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or Satan as he said, rebelled, won't we have that again the next time when we get to heaven?

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And God gave me the answer. I've never thought about it. It wasn't something I had thought

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about before or had already pre thought of or anything like that. And this is what came

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out of my mouth. No, because everything there and everybody there has chosen to be there.

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That's what he said, you know, which to me was the foundation of love. We love him because

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we chose to be with him. My Bible even says he that loves me will keep my commandments,

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which means who will choose to do my my will. So that's one of the things that really got

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me about the place. But the other thing was you talked about the glory. Remember the glory,

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the light, the glory, you talked about that. And if I'm talking too much, let's say Sharon,

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maybe being slowed down. The nice thing about drinking from a fire hose is that you can

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in these kind of things, you can go back and listen to it again. So just let it roll. Because

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when you start out talking to me, you should have seen that, you know, I see things in

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pictures and all of a sudden all these pictures started flooding in when I'm describing looking

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into Jesus's eyes. I'm not just saying those words. I'm picturing it at the time I'm talking

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to you when I'm describing, you know, come to know that the Lord loved me so much that

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even if Jesus Christ would not have done what he did on the cross, he would have still found

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a way to get me. I'm seeing that, you know, you know, when I'm describing these things,

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I'm literally seeing those pictures at the same time I'm talking to you, you know, but

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within that, all of that that I'm describing is this beautiful light. It's so beautiful

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and it's getting brighter every moment. That's why I really believe we were called children

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of the light. You know what I mean? And that's why we're at first. And we are part of those

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lights. And that's why sometimes you could go somewhere and other Christians could say,

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I see a light. I see a light. I see it because God has given them the insight to see those

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lights on people. And they're and they're literally getting brighter and brighter and

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brighter and brighter every moment. And so when I was there, here I am in this lighted

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area that's so brilliant. And knowing that every particle, this is the best way I could

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describe it. Every particle of what makes up that light is love. Every particle. You

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know what I mean? So the light, even though it was light was also love. We call it glory.

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You know what I mean? The glory of God. And here he is. I'm in this realm and in this

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realm which is heaven, all this light is beautiful light. And I got to say it's white light.

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It's white, white, white, white, white light. I can't even, any white here would be pale

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to the whiteness of the light there. Okay. And yet within that light is every particle

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that makes that light is love. The best way I could describe it, and I hope this is in

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a negative way, it's being in a dust storm. And every particle of the dust is love. But

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it wouldn't lie to you. You know how the dust storm, you can't see that far and all that.

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You can see it. But every particle would be love. And I thought to myself when I got back,

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this is Dean Braxton, I got to my hotel, not hotel, we're in the hospital and the laying

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in the bed and I thought, all of heaven is held together by his love. That's what I said

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to myself. That's the very word that I said to myself. All of heaven is held together

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by his love. Whoa. And we put it on the bottom. That's how I thought. You know, we teach about

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glory, we teach about this, we teach about this, we teach about this and teach about

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this. And none of that could exist without the love of God. It can't even exist without

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the love of God. And it was like, wow. And I even said to the Lord at the time, how do

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I better teach this Lord? You know, at the time, how do I better express this? How do

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I better get this out about your love and how it is? It was like, that was my question

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in the hospital room at the time, because of how I was probably one of those people,

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you know, I taught on love and it was like, okay, that's the bottom of the teaching. We

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got there to faith. Let's teach on faith for a while. You know, let's teach on this area,

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this area, this area, this area, this area. And yet-

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But faith works by love too.

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I know, but we wouldn't elevate that to the fullness of what we would teach sometimes.

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And I did the same thing. I didn't elevate those issues, but nothing, nothing, nothing,

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nothing exists. You could talk about faith, but faith doesn't exist unless there's love

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involved. You can talk about obedience, but obedience doesn't exist unless there's love

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involved. You understand?

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It's true.

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You got a car, I thank God for these examples He's given me, and you got a car and it's

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not an electric car. Okay. It's a gasoline car. Well, you've got to put gas in it to

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make it to run. Okay. None of it can exist without the love of God. None of it. And yet,

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we don't look at it that way. And I think sometimes the reason we don't look at it that

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way, Sharon, we can try to break down faith, you know, to break it down into things. We

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can break down obedience. We can break down these other things, but we cannot break down

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the love of God.

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That's the most foundational thing.

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It's not only just the foundation, like you build a building on it, but it's what gives

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the building the life. Do you understand what I mean? So it becomes inside. You know what

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I mean? It comes inside.

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Did you see that?

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Did you do that?

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No, I didn't do that.

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platform that we can just see each other. When he just said that, there were fireworks

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that went off in the background. That was crazy.

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I thought you guys did that.

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No, I did that. That is so cool.

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Yeah. I'm not looking at a video.

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And Philip wasn't looking at it. He didn't see it.

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I don't have a video.

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Yeah, I've got the video on my side of the table. So what was it you had, Philip?

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Well, you know, in Matthew 22, it's when the Pharisees are questioning Jesus, trying to

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trick him. And one of them, a lawyer, asks him a question, tempting him, saying, Master,

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which is the great commandment in the law? And Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the

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Lord thy God with all thy heart, all thy soul, all thy mind. This is the first and great

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commandment. And the second is like unto itself, thou shalt love your neighbor as yourself.

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And these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

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So that's kind of like, you know, Dean, what you're sharing, here's the scripture that

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says that, you know, everything hangs on love.

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It is the very substance that everything is made of. It's held together by love. Everything.

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Everything. And that's why I felt like we needed to talk about the love of God, because

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I don't think we get it. I don't think we really grasp or comprehend how very much everything

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depends on the love of God.

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We focus, we seem to concentrate more on the filial love instead of the agape.

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Yeah. We tend to.

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We tend to.

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Yeah. The thing about agape is that it serves. Agape serves, which is what you brought for

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us a few podcasts ago about serving. When you meet someone in heaven, you told us that

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you thought to thought, say, how can I serve you?

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And that's love. That is the kind of love that agape expresses where the one who is

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loving looks at the loved one and looks for what that person needs and provides it. And

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that's why it's the word that's used in John 3.16, God so loved.

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God looked at the world and saw the need of the Savior.

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Yeah.

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And provided. That's Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Yireh, the one who looks ahead and sees the

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need and provides for it. Provision means vision ahead.

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Yeah. Well, I'll be honest with both of you about my outlook on this area when we talk

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about love. A couple of things that I do when I'm in a meeting, I pray that everybody experienced

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the love of God. I want them to experience it. I don't think I can ever come to the ability

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to really articulate it the way that I experienced it when I was the father in Jesus in heaven.

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And so even this program, I'm asking God to download on both of you.

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Amen.

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Because you were created for it. You're wired for it. And I think you better really grasp

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it is when you experience it. You know, through the five senses, I really believe that verbally

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me saying something or even visually something. But when you experience it through the five

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senses, okay, your loss were words too. Yeah, I mean, you don't have the words, but then

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you got it still. That's a good thing about it. And so that's one of the things that I

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really say, okay, God, I'm hoping that I'm opening up the doors almost like having an

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avalanche. I'm hoping I'm the person right now that's causing an avalanche of love to

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head toward the people that are listening to this right now. And whatever situation

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they are going in, whatever things that they're trying to understand, all of a sudden they're

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being overwhelmed. I want it to be overwhelming. Does it mean you cannot receive it even though

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it's overwhelming, but I want it to be in such a way that it surpasses anything that

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you ever experienced before. Okay. Yes. And in such a way that your life is not just saying

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from it. And I believe this is Dean Braxton, you may say, I believe that it can get greater

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as time goes on. Yes. You can experience it and not the same. Sometimes we say dig up

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the old wells and bring them. To me, old wells are old wells, but the water that's coming

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up is new. Exactly. Okay. So because my understanding is that it ain't water that stayed there for

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centuries just waiting to be pumped out. You know what I mean? It's got to be renewed.

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And so some of you may say, well, I'm going to dig up the old wells. Well, the new water

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is coming out of it. I'm telling you that right now. And so in this case, I'm asking

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that God constantly, anyone that's listening to this podcast, I'm asking constantly that

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God would pour out upon them more love and more love and more love. And that they realize

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you're created to receive the fullness of what God has given you. And then you're going

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to get it again, but it's going to be greater than the time you got before. And that's when

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that statement goes, we move from what? Glory to glory. Glory to glory. Yes. And now look

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at, we move from love to love to love to love to love. Yes. Yes. And it's, and God has created

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new love for you. So it's not like he has it in a bank and he says, Oh, Sharon, okay.

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I got a deposit for you. I'm going to pull it out. He goes into the bank and says, I

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created a new love for her and give it to her now. I love it. Yes. And I think what

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that does for us that are on the planet, us that are working in the kingdom of God, and

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any of you that are listening to this podcast are working in the kingdom of God. That means

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you're doing something accurately in that kingdom to advance him to others. I believe

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that that what that does is make us better equipped to be able to make decisions that

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are love based. Do you understand what I mean? That's something I got to read. This goes

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along with it. You guys know I pray over myself every day, but I also speak over myself. And

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I want to show you one of the things that I speak and I think it's really cool. And

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this is one of the things that a friend of mine put this together, but I speak it over

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myself. Lord Jesus, thank you for helping me to be aware to not apply strategies rooted

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in the fear of man over the love of God. Thank you for helping me to walk free from regret

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and uncertainty knowing that my path is clear with you because I have applied the strategies

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aligned with your heavenly kingdom. Thank you that my desire is to continue to represent

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you well in my time left on earth. Thank you for helping me to value this time by winning

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souls, leading people to Jesus because he who wins souls is a white person because he

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is correctly applying the strategies united with the elements of love.

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Wow. Can you send that to us? Yeah, I was just going to take a picture of that and send

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it to us. I'll send it to you. We will have to put that into the show notes so that people

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can have that and read it. I'd like to pray that too.

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That's powerful.

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So I speak that over myself because that's how I want things to be coming out of me as

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I'm ministering out there. And I want to be a part of his strategy. He has a strategy

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and I may not always know the strategy, but I want it to be over the love of God. I want

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it to make sure it's within his love that this strategy is being moved. And so that's

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why I speak that over me. But I thought that fit within that realm of there. Let me go

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one more piece of this love. Can I go one more?

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Please do. Please do.

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And which also got me, and you guys have probably heard me say this, some of you out there,

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if you come around, you've heard me made this statement. Here I am looking into the eyes

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of Jesus. And I saw the love for me, like I said, and it was being created every moment.

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But what also got me, oh, Lord said I have to cover this before I cover that. So I'm

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going to cover this first. Everything about Jesus loved me. You guys heard me say that

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when I looked at the feet of Jesus, Jesus loved me, his feet loved me. Literally the

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fullness of the love of God was coming through the feet of Jesus. That is hard for me to

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even come up with an example of what that is. Because even if I tell you about my grandchildren

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and they look at my feet, I can tell you my grandchildren still don't feel the love that

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I have for them through the feet that I showed them. You understand what I mean?

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And yet everything about Jesus, every portion of his body, it didn't matter what I saw.

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If I saw a portion of his forearm, just a portion of it, you understand, not even the

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full arm, his arm, his portion loved me. And I received that love from the portion of his

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arm. Does that make sense? I say like his little finger loved me. Because the other

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digits of people could do that or his toes loved me. But it was not that I had to see

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a fullness of that body part to be able to receive the love of God. It was like a portion

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of it, I would still receive the love of the God. Yeah, I looked at his feet, his feet

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00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,000
loved me. But if I just saw his little pinky on his toe, it would see, and it wasn't like

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it was less in love. Like, oh, it's a little toe, go to him and give me a, no, it was still

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the same magnitude of love. No matter what I looked at on Jesus. And I just wanted to

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explain that to you, because I go through that pretty fast when I'm telling this testimony,

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that his whole being loved me. And then I use Romans, the eighth chapter, starting at

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the 37th verse, talking about what can separate us from the love of God, and how it's even

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said that all that love comes through Jesus to us. So that's what I was experiencing at

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that moment. Now let's go back to where I want to go. Okay. Here I am looking into the

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face of Jesus and look into his eyes and I see his love for me. And it looked like it's

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love without last week. And I said, the reason is because it's growing every moment for me,

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or he's creating new love for me every moment. But then I literally changed my thoughts.

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When I thought about Marilyn, my wife, don't ask me why, I don't know. It just changed.

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Okay. And as I'm changing my thoughts, thinking about her, and I could have been thinking,

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man, I wish she was here. That's what I, you know, there'd be others, because I know I

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was thinking I wanted my entire family there. There was a great desire in me. I know that

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everybody there wants their entire family there, because there was a great desire in

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00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,800
me that want my family to experience it. All of my family. Even the ones I didn't get

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along with. I wanted them there.

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Beautiful.

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So, so here I am looking and I look into his eyes and I'm thinking about Marilyn and I

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see the love for her like he only loves her.

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Beautiful.

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Now, it didn't take away from anything that I was receiving. It wasn't like, okay, this

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is you're getting a drink of water and now we're cutting off the water to you and giving

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00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:28,760
it to somebody else. No, I was still receiving my love, but all of a sudden I saw the love

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for her like he only loved her.

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Wow, beautiful.

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And then I thought about my mother and I saw the love for her like he only loved her. And

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I went down the line of people in my head, you know, and everyone that I thought about,

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00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,000
I would see the love for them like he only loved them.

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Beautiful.

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I can't, I don't say it as much as I used to at the beginning when I first got up and

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00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:57,000
shared this. I used to say there's no number two in heaven. There's only number ones.

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Because no one is in the back of the line with Jesus.

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Yeah.

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And people say, what do you mean? There's got to be a crowd around him. How are we going

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to get close to him? I say, he's God. You got to let him be God, you know? And the closest

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I could come to describe that is like even right now, he's talking to each and every

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one of us, even those that are listening to this podcast, like we're the only one he's

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talking to, but he's doing it all at the same time. You know what I mean?

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And so that really got me was when I saw that everybody in heaven and on earth, literally,

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he loves like they're the only one he loves. And I could kind of like fudge a little bit

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and say, well, that's because everybody has individually created love. But when I say

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that Sharon and Phil, I feel like I'm cheating you guys. I really feel like I'm cheating

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00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,440
you because it's not that way. It really isn't. You know? But then it's like, he God, he can

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do that.

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Yep. Yep. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? It isn't like he's pushing this person aside so I can love this person

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and I push this person aside so I can act like I only love this person. You know, it's

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just the way it is. And I have to say, okay, I've got to accept it. Jesus can love everybody

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on the planet like they're the only one he loves. You know?

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Yes.

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And you know what came up after that? And to say that and to stop, sometimes I feel

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like I'm cheating people in the rest of the story because what came up after that is that

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statement I just said, you really do want everyone here. I just remember in my heart,

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I thought, you really do want everyone here. And I remember even thinking about that later

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on in the hospital room. And I was laying there and I thought, wow, Dean, I thought

551
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you always thought he wanted everybody there. And the reality, I was short. I had stopped

552
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,680
it at a certain point. Yeah, we want everybody there that I agreed that he wants everybody

553
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:12,080
there with. You know what I mean? Everybody there that should be there is the ones that

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00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,160
I agreed that he should be having there. You understand that stuff?

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Come on.

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And verbally it sounded great to say he wanted everybody there, but in my head, there was

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00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:30,160
criteria for people to be there. And I could fool myself only so long. When I got to heaven,

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I couldn't fool myself no longer. He literally wanted everybody there. And I didn't want

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to tell people that. I didn't want to tell people like he wanted Hitler there or Joseph

560
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Stalin there. You know, people that murdered massive numbers of people, people out of Cambodia,

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you know. I didn't want to tell them that these horrible people that are on this planet,

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that Jesus Christ wanted there and he died for their sins. And then my worst ones because

563
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,800
of working in the juvenile justice system was child molesters. People that had molested

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children. I had a hard time with those people because I saw the damage they did to the people

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00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:14,640
that had been molested. And I remember thinking, you know, out in Washington state, I worked

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in the prison system where they held juveniles and they had a special unit for sex offenders.

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And this is before people really started moving in the area, trying to help people that had

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00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:33,160
been sexually abused. And so that unit was one of the first units that they had that

569
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:38,560
worked in that area. And every once in a while we would get a kid from that unit over to

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where I worked at. And I worked in the drug and alcohol unit. And I remember listening

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to the stories of the person and how they were abused and it was terrible. I don't even

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00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,480
want to mention it online because some of the things human beings could do that people

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are so cruel. And I thought, what could stop a person's mind from being so damaged by that,

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that could help them? Well, and it was hard for me. And then I met a person that had been

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damaged by that. And they told me the only thing that helped him was Jesus Christ. He

576
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came in and healed them, period. That was it. The counseling didn't help them out. This

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00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,840
didn't help them out. And I'm not saying don't go to counseling. I'm not saying don't. I'm

578
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,560
just telling you, the one that can reach in that brain and hold onto that area and heal

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it is Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? And there may be somebody that's listening

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00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,080
to this podcast and I'm asking God to do that for them right now. Just grab that area and

581
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,640
hold onto it and heal it, period. And that might be just for you receiving the love,

582
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,480
just receiving the love of God for you that would be healed. But in saying that to you,

583
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,040
I had in the back of my mind that those people, they could go to heaven. You know, if I was

584
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:55,680
at the gate, they weren't getting in. I don't care how much they said they accepted Jesus

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00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,280
Christ as Lord Savior. They weren't getting in. Do you understand what I mean? And here

586
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,720
I am in heaven. And when I saw that he wanted everybody there with him, I literally said

587
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:12,720
in my thoughts, you really do want everybody here, even child molesters. That's what I

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00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:19,240
said. And he wasn't looking at me at the time that I made that statement. He was looking

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away and he went back to looking at the half circle that was around us and communicating

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with them of beings, you know. And I remember I still was at the feet of Jesus because I

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looked up at him. I never stood up in front of him. I mainly looked up at him. And I remember

592
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him starting to say these words to me. And this is what he said. He said, when you put

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a person in jail, they get out. They get out because either their time is up or they get

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out because they die, physically die. But when we put a person in hell, they're there

595
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for eternity. That's what he said to me. And then he said this to me. And he turned when

596
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he said this to me and I'm down at his feet, looking up at him. And he looks me in the

597
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eyes and says, who are you to nullify what I have done? And when he said that to me,

598
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it hit me hard. It's probably one of the driving forces that has me go everywhere that I go

599
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because it was almost like he put that in me. Like that was like pushing me in a direction.

600
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You understand what I mean? To reach everybody I can, no matter who they are, where they

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are, what they believe, but they don't believe by who they think they can be is because he

602
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died on that cross for them so that they have the opportunity to be with their father forever.

603
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And that's love. You know what I mean? I can't stop that love. I can't even get in the way

604
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of it. You know, you know how they say the stone that comes and the builder, the people

605
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realize that's love. You can't stop it. It's coming. God's going to love a person no matter

606
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what. And most of us on the planet are very graceful for that. You understand what I mean?

607
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Most of us that know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior understand we were unlovable. Some

608
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of us wasn't even likable, but God Almighty, He loved us anyway. And He helped us to be

609
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more lovable and more likable. You know what I'm talking about. And so that's just something

610
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that I wanted to share on that because I think that's the key for us on the planet. And that's

611
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why I use John 3.16 through 18 as my foundation scripture to move on the planet is because

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it reminds me God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. And those that

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don't believe in Him are already condemned. You don't have to tell them they're condemned.

614
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I believe they already know they're condemned, but we're to tell them how to get out of that

615
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condemnation because Jesus Christ has made a way for them and there's no more excuses

616
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for it. So that's what I just wanted to share about that love that exploded when you opened

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up that glory. Can I ask one more question? Sure can. Okay. So the idea of the glory in

618
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Hebrew, the word for glory is kavod. Some people pronounce it kabad or kabod. It's kavod

619
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and it means weight. There's a weightiness. There's an honor in the glory. And what I'm

620
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picturing here, let me just tell you what I'm picturing and you tell me if I've got

621
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it right, if I've got it wrong, I'm ready to stand corrected. But when you were talking

622
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about every little particle of the light, so to speak, is the glory, is His love. What

623
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I'm picturing is like the weight. Now you said it was white and I agree with you, but

624
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I'm thinking of, we often think of glory as like gold. And you know, it's a different

625
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color, but the point is that it's one of the heavier metals and there's like this weightiness

626
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about gold, but the weightiness of His love. What I'm picturing is that this outpouring

627
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of His Holy Spirit in the Greek in Acts where Peter is repeating what Joel said, he says,

628
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I will pour out of the Spirit of me and He is love. So it's an outpouring of His love.

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I believe that in the moment that He pours out on a person, like you were telling us

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about this man that Pastor Tony Kemp knows, that he was diagnosed as being mentally retarded

631
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as a child. And you asked him, how did Jesus heal you? And you said in one moment, he was

632
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mentally retarded and then the next moment he wasn't. And to me, that's a picture of

633
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the outpouring, this even descent isn't the right word, but this, it's like an increase

634
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in the pressure that pushes His love into us. You know, these people you were talking

635
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about like the Hitlers and the Stalins and the child molesters. I don't know about their

636
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:22,040
history, but I think a lot of the people that are doing these evil things were traumatized

637
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as children as well, because it's hurt people that hurt people. And I know that God wants

638
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:34,480
to do this, this work of penetrating us because there's a part of us, this soulish part of

639
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us that has this area of unbelief and unable to comprehend the love of God. Who can comprehend

640
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,640
the love of God? What does 1 John say? Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed

641
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upon us that we should be called the sons of God. And he goes on in verse two, it doesn't

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yet appear, beloved, beloved, beloved, you're the beloved one. He calls them the beloved.

643
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Now are we the sons of God? And it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that

644
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when He shall appear, we shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is. And every man

645
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that has this hope in Him purifies Himself even as He is pure. I think the purifying

646
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comes by just letting Him in, just receiving Him. And you do it by faith because there's

647
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this natural incredulity in us, this natural doubt, this natural, I don't get it. I don't

648
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get it. Fallen nature of man. Fallen nature of man that cannot comprehend the love of

649
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God, but we are designed for it. We're designed to be healed. And I go back and say we're

650
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designed to accept it. Yes. You understand what I mean? And so that's something, but

651
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you know, we're also been trained that we don't get anything unless we earn it.

652
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Performance. Performance. I mean, that's the training that we get to in life. But the bottom

653
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line is that for a number of ways that we do it too. But Sharon, in saying that, let

654
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me go back to something you said also about that. I said that love is like light and the

655
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glory and everything. There was a goldness in it too. Okay. But the goldness that was

656
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:31,800
in the light was because of God. It was different than, I don't know how to say it. It was like,

657
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:38,360
here I had this goldness going on because of God. It's like God was coming out of the

658
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:45,800
light and it was gold, but it was light. That's the best way I could say it to you. And so

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I just don't know how to express that, but there's a goldness in it. I even described

660
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:56,200
when I described the atmosphere of heaven, I said, goldish, yellow, you know, a yellowish

661
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white. That's what I called it, which was really the gold. And it's because it's almost

662
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:08,160
hard to define that realm in this realm because I don't have too many examples.

663
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Did it feel weighty? No, it didn't because I was created for it.

664
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The atmosphere there is what I was really created for. And so this atmosphere feels

665
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:30,480
weighty and dirty. Very, very dirty to me. It really feels dirty. I'm trying not to make

666
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:37,680
people feel bad because they're here. We don't know any different.

667
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:43,020
You know, there's a lot of things, but there it was like, I'm trying to grab like fish

668
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:46,760
in the water. I used to fish in the water a whole lot. You know how a fish that's their

669
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,800
natural environment. Yeah, it's weighty. It's weighty. You know what I mean? The deeper

670
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,000
the pressure, the weighty. Yes.

671
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,680
But it's their environment. That is good. That's a good way to put it. That's a good

672
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:03,680
way to put it, that it's your environment that you're created for. Wow.

673
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Yeah. So for us that are not created for being under that water, it's heavy. And we've got

674
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,600
to watch it. You know what I mean? But those that are created for that water, it's not.

675
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:19,480
You know what I mean? So that's the best way for me to describe that and give that to you.

676
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:27,800
But it is, there is a goldish kind of color in it. And it's white, but it's beautiful.

677
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,480
I just don't have anything on the planet to come close. The closest, when I describe the

678
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,880
color, someone told me as an artist a long time ago, you're describing a sunrise. They

679
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:44,760
didn't say a sunset, but a sunrise. And I've taken time, even in the book, Deep Worship

680
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,280
in Heaven, I talk about the day awakening. Yes.

681
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Which I believe when the sun comes up and everything gets that first light, they're

682
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:59,840
being told to get up and praise the Lord, give glory to the Lord. So everything in creation

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01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:06,200
at that moment, the birds, everything is starting to give their praise to the Lord at that moment.

684
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That's why it's very noisy a lot of times in the morning. But most people don't realize,

685
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,320
I believe the trees giving that praise. I believe the grass is giving that praise. Everything

686
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:21,320
that has life on the planet is starting to give God praise for that morning. So I say

687
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,960
that to you because that light, when you said it earlier, what does have a goldish, I don't

688
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,520
want to say the two particles are gold together, but it's almost like Jesus shining through,

689
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:38,640
the father was shining through it and it was gold. It was white, but it was gold in how

690
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:46,640
you, that type of thing. And if it was weighty, I knew I was in that environment, like I said,

691
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:51,800
the dust storm, and yet I could see better than I could ever think I could ever see.

692
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:57,560
Even on the planet, I don't have the same vision I had there. There was nothing that

693
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:03,400
didn't inhibit me from being the fullness of the creation that God had made me to be.

694
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That's the best way to say it. And sin on the planet inhibits us a great deal. Even

695
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,600
I was listening to someone and they said recently how some of the purest sounds that we get

696
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:22,240
are from young boys singing. They didn't say young girls, which I think girls have a prettier

697
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,320
voice, but they said young boys, you get young boys chorus and you're going to get a beautiful

698
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:33,840
voice. You guys are music, music, you know what I'm talking about. And he said, today

699
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:39,600
what they do with a lot of the music is that they'll engineer it to sound even better.

700
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:47,880
So they'll take your voice and they'll engineer it. They'll take out all the defects. So some

701
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,200
of the famous people that are artists out there right now that we listen to, I'm not

702
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,960
talking about the Christian ones as much as the secular ones that we don't listen to.

703
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:06,000
I should say, but that are famous. They literally engineered their voices now. They sound better

704
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:15,600
than they really are. And so we're not even really hearing the person's voice anymore.

705
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:20,920
And yet sin does that with people's voice on the planet. It literally deteriorates our

706
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:27,480
voice as it comes out of our being, you know, it deteriorates by the time it hits your ear,

707
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:34,960
by the time your voice hits my ear, it deteriorates. But in heaven, nothing is deteriorating. You

708
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:41,380
know what I mean? So if you were to speak to me in heaven or just sing to me in heaven,

709
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:47,340
it would not be deteriorating because of that atmosphere that I'm in, which is the glory

710
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:54,640
of God, which is the love of God. You know what I'm saying? And because of that, I get

711
01:06:54,640 --> 01:07:01,440
the pureness of your voice. I think we get that every once in a while, like you got global

712
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:08,000
outpouring. When that pouring is on people, okay, and we're in an environment, we're getting

713
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,760
the pureness of what's going on at the moment. And that's why sometimes people get stuck

714
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:19,560
in a revival, you know, because they like the environment they're in and they think

715
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,560
they're going to get the same environment every time. So they're going to keep on going,

716
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,600
not knowing it's supposed to grow.

717
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Yes. And they're supposed to carry it everywhere they go.

718
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,200
And they're supposed to carry it everywhere. And I think that's what happened with Jerusalem

719
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:39,280
when the Christians first came into existence, you know, the believers came in and then God

720
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,120
had to disperse them out.

721
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,920
Yes. Why does he always have to send persecution? Because we don't obey. Go, go, go.

722
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,760
He wants us to go. And it does force us to go to places we wouldn't go. You understand

723
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:52,760
I'm talking about?

724
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,760
Yes.

725
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,200
And so instead of just being obedient and just going, you know, it's because, but the

726
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:06,800
reality of it is that there that glory, we were created for it. There is no deterioration

727
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:14,080
of our voices or our thinking. And it's all love. It really is all love. And I just feel,

728
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:18,800
I don't know how you feel, but even me just saying it's love, L-O-V-E, you know, it's

729
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:27,560
like, I'm not giving it the fullness of what it is. By just using the word. Recently, Jesus

730
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,240
told me, you know how I always send out and I always say, Jesus is faithful.

731
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,240
Yes.

732
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,920
You remember, you know, well, he told me I need to put on that and you've probably seen

733
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,520
it and he loves you.

734
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,520
Yes.

735
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:44,720
You know, and I really believe that that's a personal message from him to everyone that

736
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,560
when I send it to him, I'm going to be faithful to you and I love you.

737
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,560
Yes.

738
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,560
Beautiful.

739
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,240
That's what he told me to do. So when I sent out those requests and the people hear that,

740
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:59,120
I'm not just sending them out because it's a good mantra, a good brain or anything. I'm

741
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:04,080
sending out because Jesus said, I want them to know I'm faithful to them and I love them.

742
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful.

743
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:12,680
Would you pray for our listeners, especially for any that are stuck in their unbelief in

744
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,680
the love of God?

745
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,080
Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you for each and every person out there right

746
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:22,200
now. I thank you that you love them. I thank you, Father, that you created them for your

747
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:27,080
love. Father, there are things that are blocking them from filling the fullness of that love.

748
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,520
First of all, I just come against anything that the enemy of God is doing in their lives

749
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:37,680
to block, yes, your pureness of your love to receive them. In the name of Jesus, I command

750
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:44,120
it to go now. Every demon, devil and evil spirit that would try to inhibit any of the

751
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:49,800
love of God to reach the people that are hearing me. Oh Father, even the people that are not

752
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,960
hearing me but are connected to the people that are hearing me. I come against that and

753
01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:02,840
I command every one of them to go in Jesus' name. I say to the Lord right now, I thank

754
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,560
you that your love is pouring out. They're feeling it. They're starting to feel the love,

755
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,920
Father. The feeling isn't the love, but because of the love, they're feeling it, Lord, in

756
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,680
the name of Jesus. I thank you, Lord, that eyes are being healed because of your love

757
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:23,560
right now. I see that, Lord. I see you healing eyes. I see you healing a nose situation.

758
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,840
The person's had an aching nose, something's going on with their nostrils, and you are

759
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,360
literally healing that in the name of Jesus. Father, there's those that have headaches

760
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:37,320
that have been having headaches for a long time and they haven't had peace from a headache

761
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:42,240
in a while. Father, in the name, I see that, Father. I see you healing that headache. I

762
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,960
see this also, Lord, that there's those that have had headaches, but they come and go and

763
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,840
they will not come anymore in the name of Jesus because now love is filling that area

764
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:57,280
up, Father, in the name of Jesus. They need not to question why. They just need to accept

765
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:02,280
it. Some of them need to open their hands and receive it and not question why they are

766
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:07,800
receiving it in the name of Jesus. I thank you, Father, that the feet, especially the

767
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:13,720
arches, the ankles, and the toe issues, Father, that are out there right now, that they're

768
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:18,040
being healed in the name of Jesus and the gut issues. And Father, there are those that

769
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:23,880
are battling cancer, Father, in the name of Jesus. Right now, Lord, your love is coming

770
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,600
up against that and pushing it in the opposite direction. Yes, Lord, I thank you, Father,

771
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,680
in the name of Jesus, that miracles, all kinds of miracles will take place, not because I'm

772
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:39,760
speaking of, but because you love these people, Lord, in the name of Jesus. I thank you, Father,

773
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:45,640
that there will be forgiveness. People will let go of holding on to grudges. Yeah, that's

774
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:51,120
grudges and bitterness loose. The root of bitterness will be uprooted in people's lives

775
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:55,960
right now because of love. And what will be planted is your love for people. Oh, some

776
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:01,160
people will be so changed that people will see the change and know that something different

777
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,000
is happening in them and be marveled at the change that your love has done in their lives.

778
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:11,240
I thank you, Father, in the name of Jesus. You're calling some people into the ministry.

779
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:19,560
Somebody's more than one person has been asking God, what do you want me to do? He has called

780
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:26,400
you into the ministry. Wow. A reconciliation. That's what he's telling me. So you need to

781
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:32,800
start focusing on how you can get people to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Wow,

782
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Lord. Some of them will be called pastors, evangelists. Yeah, I see that. Prophets, teachers.

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Yes, Lord, I see all those and some are called apostles. Yes, they are called to start new

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works. And I thank you for that, Father. Wow, Lord, you're showing me a whole lot. And I

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thank you for that. I thank you, Father. I thank you for your love for each and every

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person out there. I thank you for sharing and feel Lord. I you know, they're on my hearts

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all the time and their families on my heart all this time. Lord, my desire is that you

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keep on just advancing them in this global outreach, Lord. The world is ripe for this

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right now, Lord. Give them the wisdom. Oh, that's it. Give them the wisdom and the people

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to come alongside them that is committed to this vision that you have given both of them

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to walk with. Lord, I thank you in the name of Jesus that people right now somewhere in

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the world is being told that they need to come there and meet with Sharon and feel because

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they are supposed to help them and not somebody that they're going to be just kind of okay,

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enemy of God, you cannot send anybody to be a distraction in the name of Jesus right now.

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You cannot distract them from the purpose that they are called to be on this planet

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and you cannot send somebody to be a distraction. Nope, you can't do it in the name of Jesus.

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There's there. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. It can't be done. Cannot be done. Those that

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come through that barrier will be only those that are pure in heart in the name of Jesus.

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They have no other agenda but to be serving the Lord. They have no other agenda but to

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be serving the Lord. They cannot come through the barrier. They cannot come into that glory.

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They cannot come into that realm if they do not have the pure of heart in Jesus name.

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I thank you for this. Amen. Amen. Amen. Wow. That was interesting. Yes. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much, Dean. Wow. This has been just so wonderful and we bless you and we

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say thank you so much and we look forward to the next time that we can get together

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and bring earth into heaven and heaven into earth to melt the two together.

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Praise God. Amen.

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