Being A House of Prayer Brings Blessing, Natasha Miller’s Story

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I love a good story, especially if it's a God story.

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He takes ordinary women like you and me

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and does extraordinary things when we say yes to him.

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Hi, I'm your host, Jodie Chiricosta,

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ministry leader at Somebody Cares America and International,

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author and traveler on this journey of faith.

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Hebrews 412 tells us the word of God is alive and active.

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That's what Natasha Miller, founder of the Haggai Project,

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lives and teaches.

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Natasha is an amazing woman who wears a lot of hats.

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She's a mother, an author, a speaker, a trainer,

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a ministry leader, a lawyer, and a wife, of course.

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But after getting her Juris Doctorate degree,

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she pursued law for a few years

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until the Lord sent her on a different direction.

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Welcome, Natasha.

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Hello, I'm so happy to be here.

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Natasha, looking at all the things that you have done

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makes me realize how much of a superwoman you really are.

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What I didn't say initially

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is that you also have a master in divinity.

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Clearly, you have a love of learning

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and you apply what you learn.

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Have you always been that way when you were a little girl?

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My father always said,

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education is the one thing people can't take away from you.

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Now, at that time, we weren't saved.

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And so, of course, now I would say that

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it is the love of God and his spirit

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that has been deposited in us

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once we've received Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

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Now, no one can take that away from you.

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And from that spirit,

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he will lead and guide and put a passion.

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And I would say it's actually truly after I got saved,

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I think everything got righted in its right place.

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Everything was positioned its right place.

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When I was going through school,

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I was more interested in getting 100s

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than the actual context of what I was learning.

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So like in high school,

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I just had 99s and 100s on my report card.

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And I felt I was achieving something

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because I had 99s and 100s, you know?

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And I was very active in many different things.

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I never competed against others.

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I always competed against myself.

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I think that's what my parents instilled in me.

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They're like, be your best.

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And if you're not your best,

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then you're angry at yourself because you're not your best,

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but you're never really wondering

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or looking at anybody else.

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And so I think that propelled me in walking in excellence,

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but it was after I got saved

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that I feel like the Lord really gave me the ability

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and the strength to do so many things.

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So tell us about your salvation experience.

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I mean, how did that happen?

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You didn't necessarily grow up in a Christian family.

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So when did Jesus introduce himself to you?

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When I first went to college,

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the first people I met were Christians.

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And I felt attracted to this girl,

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like, oh, I'm supposed to be her friend.

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And she invited me to dinner.

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And at the dinner, I guess everyone else was saved.

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At the dinner, there was one guy, I guess,

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who wanted to be a pastor.

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And who knows, he may be a pastor right now.

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He had a passion for that.

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But he said, you know, his first, how they,

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how would I say, how they introduced God to me

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was when you die, do you think you're going to heaven or hell?

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You know, like, it was just kind of very blunt.

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And, you know, I would say I didn't really understand

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where they were going.

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And it was kind of unwelcomed.

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So, you know, I had that experience

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and I did go to church with her and I thought it was very odd.

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I remember she, you know, I'm at this church

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and the pastor is talking about how the word

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is backing up the word.

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And I was like, this is brainwashing.

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This is brainwashing.

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Like, no, that's not how you do it.

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Like, you have evidence.

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Where's the evidence?

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I say that all to say that when I actually got saved,

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you know, I had tangible interaction

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and encounter with God, which was the evidence

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that I knew the word was truth.

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And, you know, ever since that time,

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it's been both for me, spirit and word.

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And I've seen that's where the power is at.

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You know, what was that evidence?

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What, you know, what was that actual moment

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when you said, wow, this is real?

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The Lord led me, just a little backstory.

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I was working in DC and the Lord led me to this church

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through somebody who was employed.

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So this is after college.

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So this is after college.

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Yeah, yeah, I had my experience.

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I actually had another experience in college,

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which led me to later on,

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I realized the Lord was showing me a taste

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of what I was to do in the future, which was soul checks.

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Okay.

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But before that, I was at college, same girlfriend.

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It was like maybe a year later,

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she invited me to this worship concert at my college.

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And the people on stage were saying,

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Jesus is coming back, Jesus is here.

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And I'm like, these people are nuts.

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But then towards the end of the concert,

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all of a sudden I felt this love surround me

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and I couldn't stop crying.

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I had never experienced such love, such power,

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you know, touching me.

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And I felt so empty, like I was truly missing something.

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Yeah.

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And I was just crying and I was in her arms crying

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and some wonderful young man gave me a jacket

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and wrapped me in a jacket.

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And you know, the concert was over

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and you know, I'm still wiping away tears.

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And we go to her dorm room and she opens her door

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and instead of giving me tissue or saying,

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hey, tell me what's happening,

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she turned around, put her hands on her hips

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and was like, are you ready to receive Jesus

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as your Lord and savior?

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Oh.

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And I was kind of like quasi offended

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and kind of still in this shock of like crying a lot.

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And then I was like, look, I'm a good person.

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No sex, no drugs, you know, this is in my head.

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Sure.

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No sex, no drugs, no profanity.

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I don't lie, da, da, da, da, da, peace out.

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And I left.

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And it was later when I got saved,

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I actually found her and said,

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I know what you were trying to do now.

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Now let me help you.

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Yeah.

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In trying to share the gospel

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because that was not effective.

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Just sit me on your bed, talk with me.

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And I probably would have admitted what was going on

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and she could have done, talked about the spirit.

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It was the spirit of the Lord that was drawing me nigh

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unto him.

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Yeah.

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But praise the Lord for his mercy and grace

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that he gives us these experiences.

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And I did have choices.

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I was basically in the secular world,

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flipping the bird to all these people

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who were trying to share the gospel, you know,

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because I felt it was an ineffective

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and it didn't touch me.

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But what the Lord did was through a person at my work,

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I asked her to lunch.

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I had had this encounter where I had dealt with my thyroid

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and I was gonna have surgery

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and they were gonna cut me open, you know,

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cut my neck open.

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At that time they didn't have,

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it was basically a huge scar from end to end

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and then they were gonna pull out my thyroid.

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And I was crying about that.

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And at that time I had a boyfriend who was long distance

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and he was like, you know, I don't pray much,

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but my mom prays and she says, God will heal you.

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Will you agree to go get prayer?

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And I was actually coming to Houston for surgery.

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Oh, wow.

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So I go to Houston, I end up not having surgery

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because I had no peace.

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I ended up sneaking out of my house

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because my mom did not like my boyfriend,

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but I snuck, first time ever, I snuck out of my house

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and to go get prayer because they said God would heal me.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, I was open to that.

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So I went, they prayed over me.

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I felt the spirit of God.

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At that time, one of the women had a word of knowledge

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saying, did you know like going to psychics

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is not of God?

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And I was like, I had no idea.

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Like I was brought up in a household where rarely,

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but there was maybe about five, seven times

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my mom had done that.

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And while I was in college, I was questioning stuff.

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And so I did call one up.

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There was nothing that came out of it,

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but I did call one up.

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And so they had a word of knowledge.

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I repented of that, but I still was not saved.

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I did say the sinner's prayer at that point,

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but I would say I gave authority for Jesus in my life,

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but I had no cognitive understanding.

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Like it just did not become true truth yet.

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But when I went back to where I was living in DC,

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close to DC, this girl at my work,

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I felt like I was supposed to get to know her.

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And so I said, hey, can we have lunch?

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And it took like weeks, but she finally said to have lunch.

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And at lunch, she spoke about her pastors

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and they were gonna bless their pastors with a trip

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and such.

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And I was like, that's really weird.

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I've never even heard about pastors.

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For me, I grew up Catholic,

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so all I knew about was priests.

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But I had this unction.

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And that's why I think I always say

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it's so important to obey any unction of the Lord,

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be an obedient one and obey.

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I had the unction, get yourself to her church.

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And so I asked her and it's so fun

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because when I asked her,

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she kind of looked at me strange.

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I didn't have any concept of what was going on,

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but it was an all black church.

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And so she was like, hmm.

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And she's like, okay.

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Well, I just didn't know, talk about opposition.

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As I was driving to that church,

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that church was an hour away from my home.

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It was like demons were on my car.

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I could not get to that church.

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Two times she had to find me on the freeway

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and I had to follow her to the church.

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But that is where I got saved.

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Wow.

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And it was a tangible experience

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where the spirit of God came upon me

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and it was instant deliverance.

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Something left me, the spirit of God filled me out.

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I got laid out on the ground

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and I didn't know this happened, right?

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Cause I never experienced anything like this.

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Yeah, you weren't faking it.

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I know there's no way to fake it

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cause I didn't even know this existed.

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And I got up and praise the Lord,

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I guess they were used to it.

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So all the ushers had surrounded me when I began shaking

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and then something left me, something filled me up

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and they caught me and I got laid out.

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And from that moment and my girlfriend

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who invited me to the church wasn't there.

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And I was like, oh my gosh.

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So she called me and I was like, hi.

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Yeah, like this is really interesting.

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She's like, you got touched by God.

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And I was like, well, okay.

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I was like, what do I do next?

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I told her, I said, I think I need to get a Bible.

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Like I think I need to get a Bible.

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And so she blessed me with my first official Bible.

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And I said, oh, what else should I do?

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And she's like, I think you should do church membership

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class and go to the Bible study.

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Well, after that, I was at that church every day

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and it was an hour there and an hour back.

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So I was driving an hour there, hour back.

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And I think it was only two days of the week

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when they didn't have something happening at the church.

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And that was the beginnings.

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And it was during my church membership class.

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Well, first of all, I just have to acknowledge

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all the women of that church.

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Because after they saw me, basically get delivered,

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all the women of the church come up to me,

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hey, hey honey, have you said the sinner's prayer?

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And so I said that thing like so many times

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and I was doing it simply out of politeness.

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And of course, and that's where I believe

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every time you say that, you give authority over to the Lord.

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Cause you may not be living,

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you may not be totally in sync with him,

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but I constantly was giving authority over him.

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But it was that day, April 6th, which was actually yesterday.

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Yesterday was my spiritual birthday.

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Wow.

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So April 6th, I was in my Sunday school class

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and she took me through the sinner's prayer.

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And all of a sudden I grabbed her.

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I said, oh my gosh, I understand.

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I said, Jesus was my lamb.

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Cause I had always seen pictures of Jesus.

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And it was a picture of Jesus

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and there's a lion and a lamb.

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And in my head, I was like, I've dealt with lambs.

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And when I was a kid, you went to a petting zoo

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and the lamb was stinky, was rough and hit me

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and I skinned my knee.

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So I did not have affinity with lambs.

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And so I was like, I never got it.

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I was like, oh, is Jesus supposed to be like

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cuddly or something?

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But I'm like, the lamb's not so cuddly.

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So I never understood that connection.

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That day I understood it because he was my sacrifice.

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He was the ultimate sacrifice.

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And then I received him.

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I was like, oh my gosh, he's my savior.

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And oh my gosh, from that day he was my Lord.

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And the fire has never stopped.

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And so when you talk about education,

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I think it's truly that fire that came upon me,

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that listening always to his spirit

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and being in obedience to his spirit,

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that I was able to have full confidence

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in diving into everything that he said for me to do.

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Because I knew he was with me

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and I'd been in the world so long

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and I was an achiever in the world.

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But there is something totally different

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when you're tied in an agreement with God

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and you execute based on his spirit telling you what to do.

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It's a whole different world.

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Oh, it is.

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And so, yeah.

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So were you practicing as an attorney at that point

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or did you go to law school after that?

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No, no.

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So that was really interesting for law school.

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I actually felt at that point,

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my calling was to preach and teach.

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Okay.

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So I would apply to law school and due diligence.

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And then I would say, I didn't wanna go.

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And I did that three times.

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And life led me by that time to San Antonio.

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And I was in church.

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Basically the spirit of the Lord told me that day,

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I had already declined the acceptance

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to the third law school.

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And my scholarship.

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And the Lord told me that day,

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if you do not go, you will never go.

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Like this is the end.

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There's two forks in the road.

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And I knew he was calling me to go to law school.

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I had no desire to go.

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But that Monday I picked up the phone and I said,

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I'm sorry, there was a mistake.

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I made the mistake.

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I didn't tell them that God told me I made the mistake.

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But I was like, I made a mistake.

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I said, is there a way for me to be reinstated?

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And they said, someone just declined

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and there's a seat open, you can take that seat.

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And I was like, oh my gosh.

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Okay, and I hung the phone up.

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And then I thought to myself,

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well, I had a scholarship before.

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I'm gonna call and ask about that.

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So I called up and I asked, I said,

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thank you so much.

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And I was like, can I have my scholarship back?

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And they gave me my scholarship back.

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Wow, praise the Lord.

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He's restored, he restored everything.

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He restored everything.

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I have to say though, my heart quasi still wasn't in it.

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I did have a time where one day I just laid out

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in my floor in my room and I put my head in my Bible.

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I was like, Lord, I'm not taking my head.

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My face, it was my face planted in the word.

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And I was like, I'm not taking my face out of this Bible

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until you speak to me and confirm.

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And so, and I just started praying.

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And then the Lord did answer

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and he gave me some earmarked things.

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And then I knew I was supposed to be there

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and the Lord was good.

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I threw the, just to circle back with the thyroid issue.

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So that was when I started, it was about,

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law school was about two and a half years

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since I was prayed concerning my thyroid, okay?

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So I never had the surgery

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and basically I was always thanking the Lord for my healing.

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And that healing first came emotionally

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because I realized that manifestation

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of what was happening with my thyroid,

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which was attacking my vocal cords and all my metabolism.

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You know, it was an attack of the enemy,

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but first my emotions had to be healed.

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And then while I was in law school,

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it started expanding so big that I walked to my dean.

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So first semester, we're about to go into finals.

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The dean was like, you don't need a doctor's note.

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You go and you get that fixed.

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Because what happened is I thought it was cancer.

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It was so big, just sticking out, hanging off my neck.

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I went, I had these procedures done

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and basically my doctor got upset

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because it was always what I had prayed for.

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I had a mass on my thyroid

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and what happened is it liquefied.

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So what happened is why it was expanding

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is because that mass was liquefying

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and the blood was just kind of filling up this bag.

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Anyways, I had these three procedures.

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The last procedure they put like, I don't know,

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it was between 13 and 18 needles in my neck to drain it.

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My whole neck was black and blue.

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And then we go to him and he's angry

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because he doesn't know what happened.

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He was like, it's just self-destructed.

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I don't know why.

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And I was like, oh my gosh, that was my prayer.

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That's what I would pray.

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Lord, thank you that my nodule is self-destruct

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and liquefy.

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And so it was an answer to prayer.

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But what he did is he took me cold turkey off my medicine

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that I had been on.

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Like you're basically, you know,

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your body's fully dependent on this thyroid medicine

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which I had been on for seven years.

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So while I'm in law school, I go through all of this,

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all these medical procedures.

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I have to wear a scarf around my neck

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because it was so black and blue.

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And I take my finals and he takes me cold turkey

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off medicine that I'd been on for seven years.

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And all I had was God.

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So what I would do is I would jumpstart my body

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because you know, the thyroid basically deals

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with all your metabolism and your metabolism

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affects everything, every function.

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And so I would jumpstart my body

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by waking up in the morning, basically rolling out of bed,

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saying, God, yes, I can do it.

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And I would go and there was this field

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and I would walk the field and pray until I felt that,

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basically is until the spirit of the Lord filled me so much

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that I could function in class.

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And then I would go home and I would sleep.

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And then I would have my alarm and you know,

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but the Lord sustained, like I lived truly through,

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that's why I consider law school like a spiritual boot camp

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because I basically learned, I mean, people like are on drugs

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or on alcohol, they're like, they're going through law school

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like all messed up.

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And I'm like, I didn't even have a chance to get messed up

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because my body, I had to focus on God

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and just truly like functioning as a human.

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But from there, the Lord just so blessed me.

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Like I got an, I was selected as an internship

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with a Senator from my state to go back to DC

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and intern with him while in law school.

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So I got law school credit, you know,

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which was a very prestigious, you know,

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I was put on a law journal through,

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so through all this where I was just merely surviving.

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Lord was thriving. But yet I was thriving

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through prayer and through being filled

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with the Holy Spirit.

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And I didn't have capacity, but the Lord would tell me,

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this is what you're gonna be called on tomorrow.

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These are the questions.

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And then he would tell me, leave the library right now

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and you're gonna meet these certain people

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and they're gonna have the answer you need.

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Like whether it's an outline or whatever.

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And I basically survived law school

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by walking in the Spirit.

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Well, you really learned how to listen

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and obey immediately.

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Immediately.

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For every aspect of your life.

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I mean, it was survival mode, right?

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Absolutely.

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And I think that was the best training ground

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to kind of walk out this life because after law school,

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the Lord called me to go to seminary.

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So then I launched, I did do some internships,

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but during law school, but I felt like I was to launch

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a law practice on my own.

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And that law practice put me through seminary.

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And I went through seminary and then while in seminary,

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the Lord basically had me launch

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what became known as Soul Check,

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which we ended up doing internationally.

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And that was six years of my life.

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Tell us about Soul Check.

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Probably a lot of our listeners don't know what that was.

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So Soul Check was, it was bringing the body of Christ

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together in sacrificial worship.

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So I never got paid for those six years.

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No one got paid.

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Everyone sewed in what the Lord basically called is,

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I would, he would bring me to different places.

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It was supposed to be the full body of Christ.

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All the international body of Christ.

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The second one, which was in Houston,

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was at the Reliant Arena.

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And that's where we had people,

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worship teams singing in Arabic, in Vietnamese,

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in Swahili, we had rap.

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I mean, it was basically the full body of Christ worshiping

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how they creatively would worship in their land.

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Well, God's a creative God,

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so he loves all of it, doesn't he?

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He is, he is.

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And it was sacrificial, it was all night.

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And so with that, what the Lord showed me,

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it was setting a standard in the spirit

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that no one had yet had created.

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Because unfortunately, when you get into the body of Christ,

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there are, there's a lot of compromise,

521
00:23:26,060 --> 00:23:27,940
and there's a lot of compromise in ministry,

522
00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:30,140
and sometimes, and division,

523
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:32,180
and sometimes it's all about the money.

524
00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:33,500
I was not about the money.

525
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:36,780
I was about the Lord and executing for him.

526
00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:39,620
And it was actually at the Reliant Arena

527
00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:41,740
where I had never danced before.

528
00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:45,020
So I kind of was like, not a dancer.

529
00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:45,860
I put my hands up in the air.

530
00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:47,500
Were you a swayer?

531
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,500
I was sway, I would sway, I would sway.

532
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,620
But it was, you know, we entered into that last hour,

533
00:23:54,620 --> 00:23:58,380
and all of a sudden, the spirit of dance came upon me.

534
00:23:58,380 --> 00:24:01,980
And then from that time on, I've been always free to dance.

535
00:24:01,980 --> 00:24:03,900
I basically, it was very interesting

536
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,060
as a worship was released for that last hour,

537
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:10,380
I led this Congo line in this arena.

538
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:14,260
And then the Lord said, go up the middle.

539
00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:18,660
And as I was leading this Congo line up the middle,

540
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:22,220
I felt the assurance, like there was a,

541
00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,580
that the spirit of the Lord had,

542
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:29,580
there was a grace placed upon a sacrificial worship

543
00:24:29,620 --> 00:24:31,860
done in obedience to him,

544
00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:36,140
that he had been ushered in to the city

545
00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:39,620
in such a way that the city would never be,

546
00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,860
would forever be changed.

547
00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:44,660
The Lord put me into a vision earlier than I had,

548
00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:48,780
I understood that this bag of seed was shrewd.

549
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:52,900
And it was innumerable, the amount of seeds

550
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:57,180
that now had been sowed by just the obedience,

551
00:24:57,180 --> 00:24:59,700
just that one act of obedience.

552
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:01,780
So where else did you do these?

553
00:25:01,780 --> 00:25:06,180
So we did it also in, he called me to Seattle, Washington.

554
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:09,340
And then we went, we actually had it in the Maiden Bower

555
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:11,700
in Bellevue, a soul check.

556
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:13,820
And then after that, the Lord called me to Guam.

557
00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:16,980
So what I saw, he took me from Houston,

558
00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:19,820
his first discovery green, then the arena,

559
00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:24,700
which fascinating enough, we're connected here in this.

560
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,980
So after that one at the Reliant Arena,

561
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:30,500
the response, the location of the response changed

562
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,860
from Dallas to actually the Reliant Stadium.

563
00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:35,580
Yeah, and then.

564
00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:37,740
And the response was a prayer gathering,

565
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,580
just for everyone who doesn't know.

566
00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:41,460
It was a prayer gathering that drew people

567
00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:44,660
from across the nation to Reliant Stadium,

568
00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:49,260
to pray for the nation and for repentance and revival.

569
00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:51,340
Yes, and then this was a fascinating thing.

570
00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:53,500
So I just volunteered for the response

571
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,380
and my volunteering thing was,

572
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:58,060
I was reading the Bible over seats.

573
00:25:58,060 --> 00:25:59,900
You know, we read all the word,

574
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:02,860
the full Bible was read over the whole stadium.

575
00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:04,460
And so I had, you know, my little passage

576
00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:07,500
and I was just, you know, reading it in gusto.

577
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:08,740
No one was really present.

578
00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:11,380
I'm just reading it over my little section.

579
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:13,540
And I didn't know there was a photographer.

580
00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:16,140
So the photographer took a picture of me

581
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,300
and that was the front page of the response.

582
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:19,620
Oh, wow.

583
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:22,700
So it was fascinating because I was the leader

584
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:24,380
of the nameless and faceless.

585
00:26:24,380 --> 00:26:25,300
Yeah.

586
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:27,020
Because the Lord had made the soul check

587
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:28,380
was nameless and faceless.

588
00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:29,980
People only knew that I did it

589
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:34,020
because like they interacted with me in some capacity.

590
00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:37,580
But he took the person who was nameless and faceless

591
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:42,060
took her picture and put her at the, I was the,

592
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:43,500
I was like, I was the face.

593
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:44,340
I was the face.

594
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:45,180
Which is so funny.

595
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:46,660
You were the face of the response.

596
00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:48,340
And then I was like, oh Lord,

597
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:49,980
why couldn't you have had a picture of me

598
00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:51,980
being so dainty or something?

599
00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:54,580
But I'm like all fire, my fist is up.

600
00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:57,740
I had my hand on the Bible and I'm like, rawr.

601
00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:59,700
And I'm like, oh Lord.

602
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:04,500
But anyways, from there, we went to Bellevue

603
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:05,460
and then to Guam.

604
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:08,660
And so what I saw is that launching point from Houston,

605
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:10,540
we went to the darkest,

606
00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:14,980
which was arguably the darkest place in mainland,

607
00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,140
which was Seattle area.

608
00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:17,980
Okay.

609
00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:21,660
And then we went literally to the darkest place

610
00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:24,340
in all of the United States, which is Guam.

611
00:27:24,340 --> 00:27:26,980
If you look at their stats back then,

612
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:31,660
I mean, it was suicide rate was,

613
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:33,940
I mean, it was absurd.

614
00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:36,580
Just, I mean, it was bad.

615
00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:39,020
And so I just believe in the spirit.

616
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:40,420
You know, the Lord had called me

617
00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:44,260
to create these standards of worship

618
00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:47,100
that called, that was calling on the bridegroom

619
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,580
because it was all worship.

620
00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:50,940
It wasn't talking about God in the third person,

621
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:54,260
but it was calling to God in the first person.

622
00:27:54,260 --> 00:27:56,740
And yeah, so since that day,

623
00:27:56,740 --> 00:28:00,900
the Lord has shown me a lot of what that was able to do

624
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,380
in the atmosphere.

625
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:04,220
Yeah.

626
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:06,740
So what's, have you tracked what's happened in Guam?

627
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:08,540
What are some of the things that have changed there?

628
00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:10,220
But I have not tracked,

629
00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:12,900
but I've seen all of the United States

630
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,700
and without going into detail,

631
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,620
cause I think some of the stuff is controversial.

632
00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:21,780
I believe that that was part of,

633
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:26,220
you know, God is a God of strategy, right?

634
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:29,620
And there has been a satanic hold

635
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:33,460
in many different areas over the United States,

636
00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:37,260
well, over, I mean, over nations, basically.

637
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:40,380
And I see that toppling happening.

638
00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:42,980
So that's kind of all I'll go into.

639
00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:46,140
And honestly, and kind of part of my personality too,

640
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:48,020
is I just obey, I do it,

641
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:49,620
and then I go into the next thing.

642
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:52,740
And it may be something, you know, that I need to change.

643
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:54,620
I don't do much follow-up.

644
00:28:54,620 --> 00:28:55,780
I just, you know, I just-

645
00:28:55,780 --> 00:28:56,820
You just trust, trust, trust me.

646
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:59,540
Yeah, I'm like, Lord, you call me to do this?

647
00:28:59,540 --> 00:29:00,980
I knock it out.

648
00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:02,140
Okay, what's next?

649
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,500
And I don't really do follow-up.

650
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,860
But I know at any point I could always call someone up,

651
00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:10,180
I guess, and ask some pertinent questions.

652
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:12,340
I'm usually too busy, honestly.

653
00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:14,060
You are, you are, you are a busy woman.

654
00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,340
I'm going on the next thing.

655
00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:17,020
So I'm just like, hey.

656
00:29:17,020 --> 00:29:19,220
So now you are still practicing law,

657
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:23,180
but you've started a new ministry called the Haggai Project.

658
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:25,060
The Lord just kind of said, soul check is over,

659
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:27,020
the season's over and-

660
00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:29,140
Yeah, so no, actually what happened is the Lord said,

661
00:29:29,140 --> 00:29:31,140
yeah, basically after those six years,

662
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:33,740
cause a soul check was called every year and a half.

663
00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:35,460
Cause I looked back and I was like, oh Lord,

664
00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:36,300
this is interesting.

665
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,940
Every year and a half, you called a soul check

666
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:38,780
over six years.

667
00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:40,060
So there were four in total.

668
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:42,940
And then after that, he gave me three years off.

669
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:44,860
He said, you have three years off and I got married.

670
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:48,180
And so interesting enough, my husband,

671
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:49,540
and he didn't know about soul.

672
00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:52,540
I mean, I guess I had asked him, it was really interesting.

673
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:55,020
We didn't know each other, but he was offered

674
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:59,380
the opportunity to sew in to soul check and he didn't.

675
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:03,260
So he was no part, he was no part involved, okay.

676
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:04,740
Well, if he had known you, I'm sure.

677
00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:07,220
Yeah, but no part involved.

678
00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:10,620
But it was interesting enough that he asked me

679
00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:11,460
to marry him.

680
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,580
The day of our engagement was five years

681
00:30:13,580 --> 00:30:16,060
to the day of the first soul check.

682
00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:19,900
Which I was like, Lord, five is grace.

683
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,380
And all of soul check was about was calling out

684
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:24,580
to the bridegroom, basically.

685
00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:28,020
Creating such a standard of love and worship

686
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:31,020
and true sacrifice, creating this altar of worship

687
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:33,700
before the Lord, which is to the bridegroom.

688
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:36,340
And I was like, oh Lord, you're just so amazing.

689
00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:40,300
You gave me my bridegroom five years to the date,

690
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,100
you know, of the first soul check.

691
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,500
He's so sweet that way.

692
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:44,340
So he is.

693
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:46,140
His kindness and goodness of the Lord

694
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:49,420
just never ceases to amaze me.

695
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:53,940
Yeah, and he's in the details, which is really nice.

696
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:56,900
And so that's what literally happened was

697
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,620
within those three years, I got married.

698
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:02,540
Actually, yeah, well, there's a lot of stuff,

699
00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:07,340
but I got married and it was in 2016.

700
00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:09,900
So I got married in 2014.

701
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:14,220
But in 2016, I had my first child.

702
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:18,300
Then the Lord told me write a book.

703
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,180
And I wrote the book.

704
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:24,300
And then he said, January 1st, 2017,

705
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,180
start praying 100 days, the word of God,

706
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:29,180
live on Facebook.

707
00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:31,060
And at that point, I didn't even know what life was.

708
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:33,460
So I was like, oh my goodness.

709
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,660
So I had to figure it out.

710
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:36,820
All the videos are up.

711
00:31:36,820 --> 00:31:40,660
Ever since 2017, I've prayed 100 days,

712
00:31:40,660 --> 00:31:43,620
a different theme concerning the word of God.

713
00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:45,340
So in January, you start in January.

714
00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:47,820
In January, I start January 1st every year.

715
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:50,420
And then I pray for 100 days.

716
00:31:50,420 --> 00:31:52,940
So that January was really interesting.

717
00:31:52,940 --> 00:31:57,460
On the 90th day of my prayer, my husband texts me saying,

718
00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:00,780
hey, I just got called into the boss's office.

719
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:03,020
He said they're transferring me to Pennsylvania.

720
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:04,500
We have to go.

721
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:05,980
And I had total peace.

722
00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:07,900
I was like, okay, let's go.

723
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,500
And we had 10 days.

724
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:11,340
And so.

725
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:12,780
10 days to move?

726
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,180
10 days with a little child who, of course,

727
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:19,580
three days before we officially moved, started walking.

728
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:20,420
Oh my gosh.

729
00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:23,140
So we had to pack our whole house.

730
00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:24,500
We put it in storage.

731
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,860
We had four luggage, five boxes, and we were off.

732
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:33,580
The 10th day happened to be the 100th day of the prayer.

733
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:34,420
Wow.

734
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:37,780
So I am praying my last prayer in the airport

735
00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:39,740
and we're gone, new life.

736
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:42,660
In Pennsylvania, a lot of blessings started happening.

737
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,020
We started getting double of things.

738
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,740
I mean, it was pretty incredible what started happening.

739
00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:49,860
I was published in two magazines.

740
00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:52,340
I was nominated to America's National Prayer.

741
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:53,660
Like there was a prayer committee.

742
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:56,580
There was a lot of incredible things happening.

743
00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:58,380
And I just hid it in my heart going,

744
00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:00,620
hmm, this is interesting.

745
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:01,700
Hmm.

746
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,900
Okay, Lord, I thank you for this.

747
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,860
I just hid these things in my heart.

748
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:10,700
And then in 2018, the summer of 2018,

749
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:14,420
the Lord gave me understanding.

750
00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:16,060
I was mentoring somebody and she asked me

751
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:18,420
to take her through the book of Haggai.

752
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:20,580
As I was taking her through the book of Haggai,

753
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:23,900
I saw the time, date, and stamp.

754
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:27,180
That when you interpret Haggai correctly

755
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:30,860
and unfortunately, a lot of people use Haggai

756
00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:35,820
for tithes and offerings and to build a building.

757
00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:37,820
But that is not what Haggai's saying.

758
00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:39,900
And there's even the use of Haggai

759
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,140
talking about the corporate church.

760
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:47,140
But unfortunately, that is not the true position

761
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:50,060
for what God is trying to say through Haggai.

762
00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:52,300
And I believe the only reason I know this

763
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:53,940
is because I lived it.

764
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:56,500
And then I was able to see it in there

765
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,620
because there's a time, date, and stamp.

766
00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:02,180
That three months, the people of God

767
00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:04,100
went from the prophet saying,

768
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,980
you lack, you lack, you lack.

769
00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:08,820
And the reason why you lack

770
00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:13,820
is because you have forgotten to build the temple of God.

771
00:34:13,820 --> 00:34:16,040
Post-Christ, who's the temple?

772
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,220
It is us.

773
00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:19,220
What did God say the temple would be?

774
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:21,380
A house of prayer.

775
00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:26,060
The reason why we as Christians lack,

776
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:27,020
because I know a lot of people,

777
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:29,380
I know people in ministry, I know intercessors.

778
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:32,700
I know tons of people and there's lack

779
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,980
in every aspect of their life.

780
00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:38,820
The reason why is because the message of God

781
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:42,620
has not gone out, which is we are to build ourselves

782
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:47,180
as a house of prayer by praying the word.

783
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:50,940
And so what has happened is there's a timestamp in there.

784
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,720
From the time the people of God in Haggai

785
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:59,460
started physically building to the time

786
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:03,680
that God said, now from this time you will be blessed,

787
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,420
it was three months.

788
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:09,900
When you look at, when I started to pray the word in 2017,

789
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:13,640
literally it was the three month marker on the 90th day

790
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,200
where my husband got called into his boss's office.

791
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,120
And then it was the 100th day,

792
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,620
we were launched in so many different ways, right?

793
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:28,080
I guess that is the true vision of the Haggai Project

794
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,140
is to build individuals as houses of prayer

795
00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:36,580
because the bride that God is returning for

796
00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,840
is a house of prayer.

797
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,860
Because, and yes, people talk about this corporate house,

798
00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:44,580
but you can't be corporate unless it's individual.

799
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:48,420
And that's why you see a lot of Christians weak,

800
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:50,260
they can't stand.

801
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:52,380
There's so many issues with Christians.

802
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:56,700
Like they can't detect a lie coming through the airways

803
00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:01,700
between the truth because there's a lack of intimacy

804
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,940
with the Spirit of God.

805
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:07,780
And that there's a lack of praying with the Spirit,

806
00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:08,940
the word of God.

807
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:12,580
So they actually build themselves up

808
00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:15,740
with the best building material that exists,

809
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:17,380
which is the word of God.

810
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:18,420
Yeah, I used your book,

811
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:21,460
Praying as Jesus Prayed during my devotion times

812
00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:22,500
about a year and a half ago.

813
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,940
And I could tell it was written out of experience.

814
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:28,220
There's people who write out of knowledge,

815
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,700
just head knowledge,

816
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,980
but I could tell that you were writing out of experience,

817
00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:37,140
that you knew because you had experienced it.

818
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:39,220
And it's very practical, I love that.

819
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:41,020
I'm a rubber meets the road kind of gal.

820
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:43,100
So share some of those principles.

821
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:46,700
I mean, praying, becoming a house of prayer,

822
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,060
share some of the experiences

823
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,100
that taught you those principles.

824
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,060
The first thing, even before with the healing,

825
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:56,420
God says he's the healer, that's his name.

826
00:36:56,420 --> 00:37:00,060
And so merely just saying, God, you are healer.

827
00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:04,740
I received my healing and now I thank you for my healing.

828
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,620
I received my healing by mere gratitude,

829
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:10,900
knowing that thank you, Lord, I'm healed

830
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:14,140
because you're the healer and you healed me on the cross.

831
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:16,820
So that's of course one example

832
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,020
that I had already spoken about.

833
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:24,020
At one point we had a witch that was doing all these curses.

834
00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:27,220
She like killed a dead cat, put it under a bedroom window.

835
00:37:27,220 --> 00:37:31,100
She did some pretty wild stuff.

836
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,580
And I actually met her because she was walking down the street

837
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,740
with her grandson and I knew,

838
00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:39,180
I knew she was from the old country

839
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:42,140
and this person was a witch

840
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:46,620
and the grandson started manifesting,

841
00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,700
like going to like attack me.

842
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,060
And so I think this was one of the interesting things

843
00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:54,740
that my husband and I were getting on our vehicle.

844
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:57,660
And when you do marriage counseling,

845
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:58,740
there's never the question of,

846
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:03,740
well, what happens if you got a witch on your tail?

847
00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:05,220
The pastor doesn't cover that

848
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:06,700
in pre-marital counseling, does he?

849
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:07,540
No.

850
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:08,380
Yeah, no, no, no.

851
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:10,700
So I had to tell my husband,

852
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:13,380
because I had kept everything kind of like,

853
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:16,060
I was just pleading the blood,

854
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:20,100
going to certain scriptures concerning protection.

855
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,900
Psalms 91 is great.

856
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,900
And I was anointing the house,

857
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:27,420
engaging the word of God and the truths of God

858
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:29,340
and applying it in prayer.

859
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:31,220
But I hadn't necessarily told my husband

860
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:32,660
because I didn't know, like,

861
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:35,140
How to talk about that.

862
00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:36,420
Yeah, how do you talk about that?

863
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:38,820
And then, in addition to that,

864
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:42,140
I wanted him to focus on his work

865
00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:44,860
and not have something else,

866
00:38:44,860 --> 00:38:46,420
rolling around in his head.

867
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:50,380
Well, that day we had the discussion in the car

868
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:53,180
and he was like, well, babe,

869
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:54,900
I knew something was going on.

870
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:55,740
Yeah.

871
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:59,300
He kind of like, he was like, I got some vibes too.

872
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:03,300
And so anyways, we then of course began praying.

873
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,580
And again, it's praying the word.

874
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:07,900
I can't say a particular scripture

875
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:09,780
because I was all over the word

876
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:12,060
in that particular situation.

877
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:15,180
In the end, what had happened is

878
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,500
she left a $20 bill on the driveway

879
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,060
and she called a truce.

880
00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:23,580
For whatever that means and whatever their world is,

881
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:26,980
from that time forward, it was good.

882
00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:28,660
Like, we didn't have to bother.

883
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:30,500
And I don't know what happened to her

884
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,820
because I didn't know the house that she lived in.

885
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:36,660
It's so odd to talk about witches, but you know,

886
00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:38,940
a lot of people don't think they exist, but

887
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:39,780
Yeah.

888
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:41,340
The issue is, that's why.

889
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:42,380
Or they're glorified.

890
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:43,260
I mean, you've got-

891
00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:44,100
Oh yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

892
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,780
Stuff on TV that are glorifying them.

893
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:48,780
If you're a Christian and you're listening to this,

894
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:51,860
and if you have any affinity to Harry Potter,

895
00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:53,500
repent and burn those books.

896
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:54,860
Or the Good Witch, or-

897
00:39:54,860 --> 00:39:58,380
Or the Good Witch, or you know, if you expose yourselves.

898
00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,980
In seminary, I had done a presentation

899
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:06,980
where I took my colleagues through the sitcoms over the years.

900
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:08,580
Yeah, yeah.

901
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:11,820
You know, starting out very light, you know, as a bewitch,

902
00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:13,820
there was this cute woman

903
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:16,700
with a little twinkle of her nose, you know?

904
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,540
And then it's just gone into deeper and deeper and darker

905
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:24,940
and darker where you can't, I mean, that is evil.

906
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:27,860
And yet, because people have become desensitized,

907
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:30,140
they're like, well, that's a good show.

908
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:31,540
And I'm like, what?

909
00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:34,620
Yeah, you're opening the door to wickedness.

910
00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:37,220
That's a real issue.

911
00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:38,540
You know, that is a real issue.

912
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:41,420
I mean, we've just dealt with this within a school

913
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:46,420
where it was a Christian school at having a book fair.

914
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:48,740
And they had Harry Potter.

915
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,500
And they had all these demonic,

916
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,180
like killer clown books and all this stuff.

917
00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:54,740
And there was a father who was so sad,

918
00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:56,540
a father like thought he had a treasure

919
00:40:56,540 --> 00:40:59,300
because he had the whole sequence of Harry Potter books

920
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,620
under his arm, you know?

921
00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:03,140
The whole like, you know, I don't,

922
00:41:03,140 --> 00:41:05,020
it seemed like a lot, I don't keep up with it,

923
00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:06,700
but it looked like at least 10 books or something.

924
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,620
It was like very large, extended box.

925
00:41:09,620 --> 00:41:12,580
And I was talking with the head of the lower school

926
00:41:12,580 --> 00:41:15,580
at this point saying, this happened, this is a problem.

927
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:17,460
And he's like, well, you know,

928
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:20,500
a lot of Christians don't have a problem with that.

929
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,500
They do have a problem, they just don't know about it.

930
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:23,740
And I was like, yeah, I said, well,

931
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:27,180
a lot of Christians are immature and they're compromised.

932
00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:31,100
I said, in the Old Testament, they killed witches.

933
00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:33,340
Like God had them killed.

934
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:35,060
Now we don't do that now,

935
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:38,900
but that shows the seriousness of God's heart

936
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,220
towards a thing.

937
00:41:40,220 --> 00:41:42,860
I believe someone's gonna be listening to this

938
00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:46,540
and they, for some reason, they're compromised.

939
00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:48,940
And let us all pray that there be found

940
00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:52,100
no compromise within us, you know?

941
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,180
When we got saved, when I was young,

942
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:57,460
my whole family got saved, like within a month of each other.

943
00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:00,140
And yeah, I mean, it was amazing.

944
00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:02,140
I was six, you know, we were growing in the Lord.

945
00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:05,500
We were being discipled and we were,

946
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:09,620
we heard a teaching about witchcraft and the demonic

947
00:42:09,620 --> 00:42:13,460
and not getting anywhere near it.

948
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:18,460
And so our whole Bible study, we had a bonfire

949
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,940
and we were all, like they did in the book of Acts,

950
00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:22,460
they brought all of the witchcraft things

951
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:23,980
and they threw it in a bonfire.

952
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:26,180
So everybody was supposed to go through their house

953
00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:29,460
and find everything that was demonic,

954
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:32,060
that would be unpleasing to the Lord,

955
00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:33,140
that would open the door up

956
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:35,460
for some basic tannic in your house.

957
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:38,540
And my parents, we had lived in Europe for a while

958
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:40,580
because my dad was in the Air Force

959
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:43,700
and they had bought this big globe,

960
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:48,500
this wooden, beautiful wooden globe that was a wine holder.

961
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,140
But on the inside of the globe was the horoscope.

962
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:55,060
And so, you know, it was a treasured possession

963
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:56,100
in the house.

964
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,620
And as we were walking through there,

965
00:42:57,620 --> 00:42:59,820
we went through the house room by room and asked the Lord,

966
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:02,220
is there anything in here Lord that is displeasing to you?

967
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:03,580
Is there anything we need to get rid of?

968
00:43:03,580 --> 00:43:06,420
And we pulled books out and we, you know,

969
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:09,460
things that my dad had gotten in Asia from, you know,

970
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:12,340
dragons, wooden dragons and things that he had picked up

971
00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:14,340
when he was over there.

972
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:17,860
But we got into the dining room and the Lord said,

973
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:19,900
that globe's gotta go.

974
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:22,620
And I mean, my parents were like,

975
00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:24,420
that's a prize possession.

976
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:26,380
But by this time we were so convicted

977
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:28,100
that they took it outside.

978
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:29,660
And the neighbor lady came over and said,

979
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:30,820
what are you doing with that globe?

980
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:32,460
I love that globe, I'll buy it from you.

981
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:33,740
And they were like, no,

982
00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:36,140
we're not gonna let you have this in your house.

983
00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:37,780
So we took it out to the bonfire.

984
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:39,940
And when we threw that globe on the bonfire,

985
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:43,780
I mean, it was like a swirling tornado of fire

986
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:45,620
came out of the fire up into heaven.

987
00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:48,980
And I mean, it was like, I remember seeing it and thinking,

988
00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:52,740
wow, I want nothing to do with any of this ever in my life.

989
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:53,620
And I have only, I mean,

990
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:55,300
I've traveled all over the world since then.

991
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,620
I mean, God has taken me many, many places.

992
00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:00,180
And I always, whenever I buy something,

993
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:01,260
I always check it out.

994
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:05,260
Like, is there any kind of demonic symbol

995
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,580
or saying or meaning?

996
00:44:07,580 --> 00:44:10,020
I'm not bringing it into my house.

997
00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:11,580
But it's so important because I think

998
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:13,460
we can just think it's fun.

999
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:15,260
Christians, well, that's fun.

1000
00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:17,940
It's a fun story, it's a fun movie, it's a fun show,

1001
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:21,940
but it opens your spirit up to demonic influence.

1002
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:26,100
It's easy to get rid of through repentance and removal.

1003
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,060
And I would say, and a lot of people also say,

1004
00:44:28,060 --> 00:44:31,300
oh, I just plead the blood of Jesus over it.

1005
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,140
And I'm like, no, you can't, like,

1006
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:38,340
if something's demonic, you bind it, you remove it.

1007
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:39,660
Like the whole object is removing,

1008
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:42,420
you just can't plead the blood of Jesus over something

1009
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:46,780
and think you'll be, you're still giving legal rights to it.

1010
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:47,900
Yeah.

1011
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,140
You know, I mean, there's, anyways,

1012
00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:53,300
there's a whole slew of stuff.

1013
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:55,420
We've gone on several rabbit trails.

1014
00:44:55,420 --> 00:44:56,260
Yes, we have.

1015
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:57,980
And you know, I could talk to you all day.

1016
00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:00,260
I think we could have many, many conversations

1017
00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:02,340
and we probably need to wrap it up.

1018
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:03,860
But what are some of the practices

1019
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:05,500
that you've adopted in your life

1020
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,620
that have helped you stand firm in your faith through?

1021
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:10,820
I mean, you know, you've kind of talked about some of it,

1022
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,100
but just kind of pinpoint,

1023
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,660
what are some of those things that really have grounded you

1024
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,620
and helped you stand through the storms?

1025
00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:21,540
The authenticity with God, you know,

1026
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:26,540
being very raw with him because you're in a relationship.

1027
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:27,380
Yeah.

1028
00:45:27,380 --> 00:45:30,660
I already know that I'm in a relationship with a person.

1029
00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:31,500
Yeah.

1030
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:33,980
And so because he's a person, you know,

1031
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:36,100
just like we would do to a loved one,

1032
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,220
it's like, I don't want to hurt his feelings.

1033
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:40,340
I want to understand his heart.

1034
00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:42,980
I want to understand how he thinks.

1035
00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:45,620
And because I have respect for him,

1036
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:48,540
and of course, I mean, he's the almighty, all powerful God

1037
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:51,020
who is perfect in all his ways.

1038
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:54,180
I want to operate like him.

1039
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:56,460
You know, people always talk about in the secular world,

1040
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:58,180
find a mentor, find a mentor.

1041
00:45:58,180 --> 00:46:01,820
Well, he is the best mentor.

1042
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:04,740
I would say with that authenticity with God,

1043
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:09,740
with, I would say I really have a no compromise lifestyle.

1044
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:13,340
Like, I'm just not into that.

1045
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:15,300
I will cut off something so quick

1046
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:20,300
if I find that it is in any way harming my relationship

1047
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,580
with the Lord, hurting his heart.

1048
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:28,200
If it's something that's not, you know, of him.

1049
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,720
And sometimes, you know, my friends, praise the Lord,

1050
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:35,280
they're my friends, but it's hard for them

1051
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,620
because, you know, I'm like, hey, dude,

1052
00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:41,280
you know, you can't be, you know,

1053
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,720
you can't be doing this.

1054
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,000
That's compromise, you know?

1055
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200
So they hear me talk about it a lot.

1056
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,340
But I think that's really the way to go

1057
00:46:51,340 --> 00:46:53,440
because if you live at no compromise lifestyle,

1058
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,600
then you don't have, you're not giving legal rights

1059
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,960
to the enemy in any way.

1060
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,520
And then there's a clarity of spirit

1061
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,560
because you're only talking with the Holy Spirit.

1062
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,880
You don't have ancillary demonic spirits rolling around.

1063
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,560
And then when you're walking in the spirit

1064
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,340
and not in the flesh, that shifts everything.

1065
00:47:10,340 --> 00:47:13,720
So that, and then, and I will couple that,

1066
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,120
I always talk about being an obedient one.

1067
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,800
And usually when I'm praying over people,

1068
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,360
I pray that they would be an obedient one.

1069
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,880
Having an authentic relationship with God

1070
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,240
where I'm not compromised,

1071
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:30,020
then allows me to walk in a depth of obedience

1072
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:33,040
that a lot of people sometimes don't understand.

1073
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Whoa, like what is she doing?

1074
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,600
You know, or she's in too much or whatever, whatever.

1075
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,360
But what it is is obedience and that faith and trust,

1076
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,640
because that trust has been built over time.

1077
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600
You know, it started in many different ways,

1078
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,560
but in particular doing soul checks.

1079
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,200
You know, it's like, there has been a history with the Lord.

1080
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
You have developed a history of trust.

1081
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,240
A history of trust, a history of faith,

1082
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,520
a history of seeing his hand

1083
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,440
and a history of obeying him and then seeing his hand.

1084
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,320
You know, I think with that,

1085
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,860
it gives me a clarity and a clarity of purpose.

1086
00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:16,200
And it also allows when I'm walking in obedience

1087
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,280
and unfortunately I might have to say something

1088
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,680
that I know is gonna hit a person the wrong way.

1089
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,680
Yeah.

1090
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,480
It gives again me the peace and the joy to understand,

1091
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,080
okay, I know you're not gonna understand this now,

1092
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,520
and you're probably gonna hate my guts,

1093
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,840
but just wait, that's a seed sown.

1094
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Yeah.

1095
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,000
And I know when that seed gets harvested,

1096
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,920
you're gonna be grateful.

1097
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
And I've had so many people always.

1098
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,700
And I think it's the spirit that you do it with.

1099
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,120
It's, you know, out of obedience.

1100
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,880
It's not out of, I'm gonna zing you.

1101
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,080
I'm gonna zing you because I see you sinning.

1102
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,320
I'm gonna zing you because you're out of line.

1103
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,160
No, no, no, no.

1104
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,080
You know, it's.

1105
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,920
No, no, no.

1106
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,080
And that's a really good point.

1107
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,200
I'm glad you're saying that.

1108
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,260
It's from the spirit.

1109
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:59,120
And it's not, it's from conversation

1110
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,480
and relationship with other people

1111
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
that you then, you do the thing.

1112
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,180
I would say now sometimes it can come out passionately

1113
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:09,440
because there's a fire and a passion.

1114
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,240
But I would say the arbitrator of determining

1115
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,440
if it's out of love or not is God.

1116
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,880
And it's not usually the receiver

1117
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,240
because I think what I found,

1118
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:23,360
even if you say something in the most sweetest way

1119
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,040
and you feed them chocolates

1120
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,640
and you give them a hundred dollars or something

1121
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,280
as you're feeding them, they still will be mad.

1122
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Sure. But when you're sowing in love,

1123
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,440
it kind of prepares the ground for the seed to fall in.

1124
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,680
Oh, absolutely.

1125
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,520
I totally agree with that.

1126
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,920
If there's a listener who's interested in learning

1127
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,320
how to build a house of prayer in them,

1128
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,000
I know you do training.

1129
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,360
How could they connect with you about that?

1130
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,400
We have a website.

1131
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,360
It's called the Haggai project.live.

1132
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
First one to highlight, there's free resources.

1133
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,940
So there's a free mini book, it's called the Haggai Message,

1134
00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:07,080
which just basically in a very interactive way

1135
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,600
shares what's in Haggai

1136
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,360
and those promises that are linked

1137
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,440
basically thriving, being linked

1138
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,280
to building oneself as a house of prayer.

1139
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,160
And there's a timestamp in relationship to that.

1140
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,920
So, we have those free resources

1141
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,520
and we also have a telegram channel

1142
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,480
where people could track as we pray the word of God.

1143
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,120
The online programs offered three times a year.

1144
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,400
It's seven weeks, it's a self-paced,

1145
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,000
but then there's a live zoom calls with me

1146
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400
as a group and community, we come together

1147
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,720
and I review stuff and we ask questions and we interact.

1148
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:46,160
And then after that, we then have 100 days

1149
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,520
of where we pray the word together

1150
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,320
and we pray concerning family.

1151
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,200
And the breakthroughs, it's pretty groundbreaking

1152
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,600
and it's always encouraging

1153
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,880
because the people will call me, text me, email me.

1154
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,960
Oh my gosh, like it's true.

1155
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,080
Like one of my friends was like,

1156
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,800
you know, I thought it was kind of gimmicky

1157
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,560
when you're like, you know, in 30 days

1158
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,760
of praying the word of God, you know, blah, blah, blah.

1159
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,080
And she's like, I saw it in the word,

1160
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,840
but I don't know, I felt it was kind of gimmicky.

1161
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,280
And then it happened to her.

1162
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,880
What happens is thriving is as a spiral.

1163
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,760
And so the Lord keeps taking a person

1164
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,120
through the different aspects of a person's life,

1165
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,520
you know, family, business relationships,

1166
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,080
you know, familiar relationships, friend relations,

1167
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,160
you know, like all these different aspects of our life,

1168
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,280
finances, you know, everything.

1169
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,200
Cause thriving is not merely finances,

1170
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,520
it's every aspect of one's life.

1171
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,360
And what happens is continually

1172
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,800
as you build yourself as a house of prayer,

1173
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,960
it just goes to higher and higher levels.

1174
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,040
I mean, for my husband and me personally, I mean,

1175
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,040
it is so many things have happened.

1176
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,880
It's incredible.

1177
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,800
So I think it's incredible to actually live it out

1178
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,240
and to be constantly living it out.

1179
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,360
The Lord gave me an invention.

1180
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,520
And so we're gonna bring that to market.

1181
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,040
And then the other night, my husband and I,

1182
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,880
we created two more inventions.

1183
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,680
So like the Lord just been downloading, you know,

1184
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,680
inventions, business ideas, just the favor on our children.

1185
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,360
You know, it's just all the starving relationships,

1186
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,360
relationships having been restored

1187
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,200
and then relationships just going deeper

1188
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,280
into sweet places.

1189
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,040
God has created us to be blessed

1190
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,640
in order to be a blessing.

1191
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,560
So how many people can you have in one of your cohorts

1192
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,240
that you do three times a year?

1193
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,600
I love having about 12.

1194
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,960
I think 12 is a great number

1195
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,280
because it's very personalized.

1196
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Technically, sky's the limit.

1197
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,000
I have found 12 is excellent.

1198
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,600
So it does fill up fast.

1199
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,200
So listeners, if you're interested,

1200
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,400
check out the eHaggieiProject.live.

1201
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,040
As we close, Natasha, I like to ask all of my guests,

1202
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,360
if there's a woman of the Bible

1203
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,960
whose story has inspired or encouraged

1204
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,000
or taught you something,

1205
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,920
and how does her God story relate to your God story?

1206
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,160
Abigail.

1207
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Abigail was married to a very wealthy man.

1208
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,120
And David, who was being persecuted by Saul,

1209
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,560
pursued to be killed.

1210
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,040
He and his men were basically hiding out,

1211
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,800
but they were also, based on their position,

1212
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,640
they were guarding the flock.

1213
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,040
And of course, because God was with David and his men,

1214
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,560
the flock began to increase.

1215
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,440
As that flock increased,

1216
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,120
and David and his men were kind of destitute,

1217
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,760
they did request a portion of the increase

1218
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,520
that they had been stewarding, and Nabal refused.

1219
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,800
In this, it's kind of an extrapolation,

1220
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,400
but if you think of David as God, who's protecting us,

1221
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,520
who's providing so much for his people.

1222
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,480
And Abigail and Nabal, they're like the body of Christ.

1223
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,120
You have God doing all the stuff,

1224
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,440
and I believe now the request of God

1225
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,320
is for his people to be built as houses of prayer.

1226
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,880
Like, I believe that is the next movement

1227
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,720
of the prayer movement.

1228
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,320
The last one was the 24-7 houses of prayer,

1229
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,000
which are incredible and will continue,

1230
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,400
but now he is being very direct.

1231
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,600
And he is saying that individually,

1232
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,520
his believers need to be built as houses of prayer.

1233
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,520
So he is coming into the picture saying that,

1234
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,960
Nabal representing ministries, ministry leaders,

1235
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,880
people of God who have influence,

1236
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200
or just of the household,

1237
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,720
my prayer is that they do not behave as Nabal,

1238
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:55,240
that they do start teaching their people to pray the word,

1239
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,600
because it's unfortunate in most Sunday services,

1240
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,360
and most churches, I don't see that they ever

1241
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,400
teach their people how to pray the word.

1242
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,240
If I've ever seen anybody pray at a church,

1243
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,080
I've been to various, I mean, there could,

1244
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,800
I'm sure there are churches that pray the word,

1245
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,640
but the majority?

1246
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,040
Yeah, I've been to a few that do, yeah.

1247
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,240
Yeah, but there's a majority that don't.

1248
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,600
I see that they pray like for needs.

1249
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,920
They'll say anybody who has a need, come up,

1250
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,720
but they don't preemptively,

1251
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,400
you know, they have music that goes with the theme

1252
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,360
of their sermon, they have slides and pictures

1253
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,360
that go with the theme of their sermon.

1254
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,520
You know, I really, my big encouragement is get a scripture

1255
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,440
that goes with the theme of your sermon,

1256
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,400
and then demonstrate the praying of that word.

1257
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,600
If your sermon is on holiness,

1258
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,480
and you pick the scripture, God calls us to be holy,

1259
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,640
just as he is holy, and then the demonstrating of that,

1260
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,200
which usually first would be repentance,

1261
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,720
to say, God, we come before you, we see in your word,

1262
00:55:55,720 --> 00:56:00,680
you call us to be holy, you call us to be like you,

1263
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,680
and yet Lord, our focus has not been first on you,

1264
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,400
and we have not been focused on emanating you, we repent.

1265
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,480
In any way, whether known or unknown,

1266
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
that we have violated your heart,

1267
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,920
concerning us to be holy, as you are holy.

1268
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,600
And Lord, we ask for your grace and mercy to come upon us.

1269
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,720
We ask you to show us, we ask you, Lord God,

1270
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:31,440
to open us up so that we are willing and able

1271
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,560
to become what you have called us into.

1272
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,480
And Lord, in faith, we thank you.

1273
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,880
We thank you that we don't know how you're gonna do it,

1274
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,960
but we thank you that we agree with you,

1275
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,040
that we should be holy, and we thank you

1276
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,400
that you are gonna do it, and then in that moment,

1277
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,120
when you talk to us, that Lord,

1278
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,400
we will respond in obedience.

1279
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,080
And we love you, Lord, in the name of Jesus, amen.

1280
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,960
So Abigail, when David came and asked that of Nabal,

1281
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:03,440
and Nabal at the time said no, Abigail stepped in

1282
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,160
and said, oh, wait a minute, we need to respond.

1283
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,560
Yes, and so, you know, I demonstrated praying the word,

1284
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,800
because I think a lot of people

1285
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,080
have never heard someone pray the word.

1286
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,920
And the second thing, yeah,

1287
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,560
when David asked Nabal for the request, he refused.

1288
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And he actually, he not merely refused,

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he was insulting to David.

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He went around and had a party.

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Now, what was interesting is Abigail heard,

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because there was a servant who whispered it in her ear.

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I believe because he had a party,

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I realized that that's where she was able

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to get all her ready-made supplies.

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And she goes, and the first thing that she does

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to David is she intercedes on behalf of Nabal,

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saying, be it as if I have done it, calling him Lord,

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and began to basically intercede in this physical world

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for her whole household,

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because David came to kill after he was insulted.

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And so with that, I see myself, one, in my personal life,

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not taking the way of the fool like Nabal,

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and saying, hey, nope, I'm gonna build myself

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as a house of prayer.

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But also in that, also going to the Lord

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and interceding for his people,

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and then listening and obeying to him,

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and setting up structure for this to occur,

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and being bold enough to call a spade a spade,

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because right now, the spade that needs to be called

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is Haggai is not for tithes and offerings,

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and it's not for fundraising, for building funds.

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And you can extrapolate to the corporate,

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but it's not talking corporate,

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it is talking individually,

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00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,560
and individuals, believers, are being called to be built

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,600
as houses of prayer,

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and you do that by praying the word of God,

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not out of your soul, not out of your flesh,

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because that's another problem,

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is that the prayers that have been,

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a lot of prayers that are admitted,

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are very soulish, or they're very fleshly.

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And we need to get back to praying the word with the spirit,

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where there's power, there's actually building,

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and then we walk in authority,

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as depicted in Haggai,

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when in the scenario where the Lord is blessing,

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Zerubbabel with a signet ring,

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it could be extrapolated,

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that having the signet ring is authority,

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and as we build ourselves as houses of prayer,

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we gain authority,

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and that authority is to bless other people,

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and to bring the kingdom of God.

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Like it's all about blessing other people,

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like we're supposed to thrive,

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in order to bless other people.

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We do this, not for our own blessing,

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,920
but it just comes,

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,200
because God is just awesome, and he's a rewarder.

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He's like, you obey me, I'm gonna reward.

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It's not like the devil, that says you obey me,

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00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,120
and then they're gonna suffer, eventually.

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,240
Hell, he may give out little tokens of,

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,480
oh, no, no, no, this is your reward,

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,160
like all this extravagance, or something, something,

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,440
but it's a ploy.

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It's like ash, yeah.

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,480
Yeah, it's a ploy, it's a ploy, but with God,

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,120
you obey him. It's not lasting.

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Now, it may not look like what the world thinks,

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but there are rewards,

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both here on this world, in this earth, and in heaven,

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,000
just by pureness of obedience to him.

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Yeah, and you know, it's so good that you said,

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it's not necessarily what the world thinks,

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,200
but you know, God created us,

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and one of the things that I have learned,

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and is deep in my heart,

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is that God knows me better than I know myself.

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,120
He knows what brings me joy, he knows what brings you joy,

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and when he rewards you,

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it's bringing the wholeness of who he created us to be.

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And the world, their thought of joy,

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,640
is temporary, fleeting, leaves you empty,

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,200
when God, when he brings you joy,

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it's fullness and wholeness, and life.

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Yeah, and it allows you to look yourself in the mirror,

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,800
and go, you know what, I love the God in me,

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and I love that I'm aligned with the God in me,

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and thus, I like who I have become, and I'm growing into.

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Your whole perspective changes.

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,400
When that, you know, God changes your whole perspective,

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01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,960
and gives you spiritual eyes to really see and understand,

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,520
and if you don't understand what we're talking about,

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ask God to give you those spiritual eyes.

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There's scripture in it, we'll have it in our show notes,

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that you can pray that.

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God will give you spiritual eyes to see in a heart,

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,800
to understand his perspective, amen.

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01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,680
As we're talking, a couple of scriptures

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are rolling around in my mind.

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01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,400
One of them is in Proverbs four, it says,

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01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,080
my son, give attention to my words,

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,760
incline your ear to my sayings.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,080
Of course, this is the word of God, this is scripture.

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,480
Do not let them depart from your eyes,

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,320
keep them in the midst of your heart,

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01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,960
for they are life to those who find it,

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,240
and health to all their flesh.

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,400
So that is an admonition to hold onto the word of God.

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01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,960
It brings you life in every aspect,

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,640
as Natasha has talked about, not just physical health,

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,960
but financial health, and relational health,

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,040
and every other kind of health,

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,600
when we cling to that word of God.

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And then in Matthew, and I kind of think

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that this is a little bit of a word from the Lord

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,760
for all of us, Matthew 26, 41,

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,760
it's Jesus talking to the disciples

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01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,600
when they're in the garden to pray,

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,440
he's telling them, he says, watch and pray

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01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,600
that you will not fall into temptation.

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The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.

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And of course, the disciples at the time,

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01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:44,780
they fell asleep, but God is saying,

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01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:47,620
you watch and pray, your spirit is willing,

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01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:50,220
but your flesh is weak, but if you will pray,

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01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:52,160
your flesh will have the strength too,

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,840
and your spirit will be strong,

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,000
and we'll have life, and we'll have health.

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We've covered so much ground,

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,200
it has been a delight talking to you, Natasha,

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01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,680
we could go on and on and on, I'm sure.

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For our listeners, check out the show notes,

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01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,800
for a link today to Natasha's books, her website,

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,720
the scriptures that we referenced,

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,280
and check out our podcast webpage at hergodstory.com

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,020
for blogs and free resources,

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01:03:17,020 --> 01:03:18,880
and to find out where you can join us

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,400
in supporting the Somebody Cares Widows and Orphan Fund,

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,280
which was born out of the scripture, James 127,

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,200
a religion that God our Father accepts

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is pure and faultless, is that you look after orphans

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,080
and widows and their distress,

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,200
and keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

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So we wanna do all of those things.

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We invite you to join us.

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If you need prayer, feel free to call or text

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200
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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,760
and that's at 855-459-CARE,

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,400
or you can email us at prayer at somebodycares.org,

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,840
and we'll be delighted to pray for you.

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,880
As we close, Natasha, would you just pray

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for everyone who listens to this podcast?

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01:03:57,660 --> 01:04:02,660
Lord, we come before you, and we love you.

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01:04:02,660 --> 01:04:07,660
There is no one that we would rather be with than you,

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01:04:12,220 --> 01:04:15,700
hearing from you, feeling you.

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01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:19,740
I thank you, Lord God, for silence before you,

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01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:22,780
and I pray, Lord God, that every single listener

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01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:26,840
would be imbued with the ability

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,840
to go before you and just be silent,

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,240
to understand that their King has something to say

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:43,640
and share, to show, and that there would be space

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01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:48,140
in everyone's day for this.

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There would be time allocated just to come before the Lord

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01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:58,140
in that holy silence, and then while in that holy silence,

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Lord God, I pray that everyone would be bathed

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01:05:02,220 --> 01:05:07,220
with your Spirit and then would be led to your Word,

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01:05:09,220 --> 01:05:14,220
and then, Lord God, that they would start bathing themselves

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01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:17,620
in your Word, full immersion, just like when you get

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01:05:17,620 --> 01:05:22,620
into a bath and your skin begins to be wrinkled,

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01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:25,940
that the full absorption of the Word,

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that then all of a sudden, we would become more pliable,

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01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:32,940
more apt, even, Lord God, if there's something

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01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:36,300
that we need to cut away from our lives,

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01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:41,300
that we would become more pliable in that bathing,

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01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:45,580
so that we can truly experience the fullness of you

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01:05:45,580 --> 01:05:50,580
and be cleansed and be sanctified and move forward

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01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:55,580
in a no compromise lifestyle that is truly for you,

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01:05:58,580 --> 01:06:03,580
not for ourselves, not for the things of the world,

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01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:05,580
but truly for you.

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01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:10,580
I pray that each one of us would be able to walk

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01:06:10,580 --> 01:06:14,580
in the Spirit, that we, Lord God, would be people

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01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:17,580
that we understand and can discern,

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01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:20,580
when it's our flesh and when, Lord God,

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01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:22,580
it is of the demonic.

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I thank you right now, Lord, that if there is anybody

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01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:29,580
who has given any legal right to the demonic,

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01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:32,580
that it would be shut off right now in the name of Jesus,

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01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:36,580
that you would come to repentance,

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and repentance not being a bad word,

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but something that allows you to be fully restored,

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01:06:41,580 --> 01:06:44,580
that cuts off the legal right of the animal

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01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:49,580
from your life because you confess what has been done

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01:06:49,580 --> 01:06:52,580
and you turn your mind, you transform your mind,

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01:06:52,580 --> 01:06:57,580
you decide to no longer engage, but you choose God,

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01:06:58,580 --> 01:07:01,580
and you choose the things of God,

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01:07:01,580 --> 01:07:05,580
and not what has been done.

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And I pray that in that time of choosing

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that such a distaste, such a displeasure,

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01:07:13,580 --> 01:07:17,580
such a distaste would come upon all of us

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01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:19,580
for the things that are not of God,

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01:07:19,580 --> 01:07:23,580
that we would truly have such a distaste,

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01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:28,580
a repulsion, that we live an uncompromised life,

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01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:32,580
that we are truly obedient ones.

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You say the word, Lord, we do it,

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not because we are servants, but because we're friends,

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01:07:37,580 --> 01:07:41,580
because we're lovers, because, Lord God,

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01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:45,580
we understand that it is all about you.

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01:07:45,580 --> 01:07:50,580
Our life is all about you, and we choose you.

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I thank you, Lord, that we choose you.

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And I pray that everyone here would choose you.

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In the mundane, in the making of the bed in the morning,

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choose God, walk in excellence, make your bed.

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And that we choose you, Lord God,

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not for the operation at work or volunteering

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or in any sphere of influence within the community,

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that we choose you, Lord God,

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01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:23,580
and we walk in excellence because we're reflecting you,

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not for anything else, but you.

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And that whatever you call us to, Lord God,

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again, it's not about us.

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It's not about here, it's not about there,

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so deeply ingrained in our blood that our cells would cry out Lord God for you.

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That we would not be satisfied Lord God with our days if we have not done it as

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if before you completely God conscious of you. Lord I pray that everyone would

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have such a hunger for your spirit and for your word to interact with the

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spirit to have the Word of God become so alive that it it's so tangible that they

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feel it entering into their body and transforming them as they take it into

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their soul Lord. I thank you Almighty Father and I pray and I just thank you

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Lord God that everybody's soul and everybody's flesh would submit to the

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Spirit of God which is within them and that we would be people that walk by the

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spirit and not by the flesh. I praise you for this Lord I glorify you for this

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Lord. We love you God and we thank you that we will constantly and continually

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have encounter upon encounter with you. Thank you Lord in the name of Jesus amen.

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Thank you Natasha and thank you dear listeners join us again for another

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