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Sometimes our hearts feel faint and our spirits, though willing, feel weak. We want to follow the Lord, but we can't seem to find the strength. The answer is always in drawing near to God. Rebecca Chavez followed God’s lead to live in Israel, and then to leave again. And she prioritized drawing near to Him, especially after an experience that shook her church and family, leaving her anxious and drained. Listen as Rebecca and host, Jodie Chiricosta share how finding that secret place with God brings empowerment, encouragement, and healing. Intimacy with Jesus and following the Spirit’s leading opens a new dimension of peace and victory in our lives.
Our Guest: Rebecca Chavez
Rebecca is married to Gerry Chavez, who is the lead pastor of Christ’s Church in Roswell, New Mexico. She has two sons, Nick and Benjamin who is married to Nicole. Rebecca also has one grandson named Beckham.
Before being married she lived in Jerusalem with a heart to serve and stand with the people of Israel. Since that time she returns several times a year to serve God through loving and aiding the people of Israel.
She is relentless to love what God loves and intimacy with Him is her highest goal.
Rebecca serves on the leadership team for the Women's Ministry at her home church. She loves to encourage and launch people into their God given gifts and passions through the power of the Holy Spirit and the intentional study of the Scripture. As a result she has written many original Bible studies. She loves to teach at events and retreats based on the word of God that transforms lives.
Rebecca founded Deborah The Brave Ministries and The Deborah Project based on the inspiring story of the prophetess and Judge of Israel Deborah, who is called the mother heart of Israel. She also serves on several boards and leadership positions that serve the people of Israel.
Rebecca loves walking the streets of Jerusalem, the beach, a great cup of coffee with great conversation, diving into a new study book and she adds, it’s always a good idea to have a few pushy friends!!
Key Thoughts and Scriptures:
2 Corinthians 5:17 NKJV Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Hebrews 4:12 NASB For the word of God is living and active...
Rebecca realized that sometimes we can have a deep calling, but we can also make an idol out of that calling.
Romans 6:4-5 NLT For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives. Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was.
Ephesians 2:6 NKJV And raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus
When Rebecca approaches her time with the Lord, she calls it “going into the secret place.”
“Miracles manifest in all kinds of different ways, not necessarily in a beautiful outcome, but sometimes through a beautiful life.”
Matthew 19:26 NKJV But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Deborah’s Story
Judges 4-5 NIV …“Go! This is the day the Lord has given Sisera into your hands. Has not the Lord gone ahead of you?”...
Hebrews 11:32 NKJV And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak…
James 4:7-8 NIV Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you…
Numbers 6:24-26 NKJV “The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.”
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Hey friends, welcome to the Her God Story podcast where you will always hear a good
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You know, sometimes our hearts feel faint and our spirits, the willing, feel weak.
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We want to follow the Lord, but we just can't muster up what it takes.
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So what do we do?
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Well, Psalm 73 gives us some insight.
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Verses 25, 26, and 28 in the New Living Translation reads,
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Whom have I in heaven but you?
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I desire you more than anything on earth.
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My heart may fail, my spirit may grow weak, but God remains the strength of my heart.
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He is mine forever.
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But as for me, how good it is to be near God.
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I have made the sovereign Lord my shelter and I will tell everyone about the wonderful
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things you do.
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Drawing near to God is always the answer.
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Whether we are on a mountaintop or slogging through harsh places, when we draw near to
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God, He strengthens us and guides us.
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He shelters us and shows us wonderful things that we can share with others.
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My guest, Rebecca Chavez, has made it a priority to draw near to God.
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After an experience that shook her church and her family, anxiety plugged her heart
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and sapped her strength.
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But as she leaned on the Lord, her strength and confidence were restored.
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She knows that the presence of the Lord dispels all fear and lights the path before us.
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As she's followed his leading, God has opened amazing doors for Rebecca to tell of the wonderful
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things God has done.
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Rebecca is the founder and president of Deborah the Brave Ministries as well as the Alliance
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of Christian Women for Israel.
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She has two adult sons, three grandchildren, and a husband of over 35 years.
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Welcome Rebecca.
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Hey, thank you so much for having me on today.
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Well, Rebecca, your early years were a little chaotic, but God was sowing seeds in your
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young heart even then.
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Share about those years and how you came to Christ as a young adult.
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Well, I did not grow up in a traditional Christian home.
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My mother knew the Lord, but she married my father who was an Episcopalian and not a faithful
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one.
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So we were what you would call creasters.
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We went to church on Christmas and Easter and that was about it.
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But my mom was a believer.
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And I know that because she was constantly watching programs like Billy Graham and Oral
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Roberts.
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But our home, because of that not having a foundation of faith, my parents ended up divorcing
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when I was 12 years old.
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And it was a very, very chaotic time.
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There was alcohol in the home.
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They wouldn't admit any kind of problem with that because my father was in the oil business.
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All of his relationships were high echelon kind of relationships.
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And so they hit a lot of the problems.
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But I remember as a child that when we would go to bed, they would fight.
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And my sister and I would hear that.
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And so after the divorce, well, during the time of their separation, my sister actually
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said that we came home from school, she's four and a half years older than I am, and
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found a letter that my dad had left.
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And I to this day have no recollection of that.
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So I know that it must have been devastating.
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But I remember caring as a child, when things happen, you interpret things usually through
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your own lens.
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So I interpreted all of that as I did something wrong or it was my fault.
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So to cope with that, my little brain said, well, it doesn't matter.
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Whatever makes them happy.
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And I kind of pushed some of those things aside, which bothered me later as a young
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adult.
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So I lived with my mother and she was gone a lot.
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She was herself struggling.
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And my sister moved out to move in with a boyfriend.
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To this day, I'm still amazed at how we all survived those years, not having a parent
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at home raising myself a lot of times by 13 and getting myself to school.
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My mother wouldn't be home for a few days or so.
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She'd come in, check in, fill the refrigerator and then take off again.
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And so I became very independent.
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And that later on led to a lot of self protection.
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But as I got through high school and for a period of time live with my father, who was
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remarried, I decided that I would go to college.
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And when I went to college at 19 years old, that's when I met the Lord.
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So when you made Jesus Lord of your life, God started revealing himself to you in all
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sorts of ways.
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So how did he do it?
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Share some of that.
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Well, I always had a longing for the Lord in the sense of I would hear my mother pray
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and I would emulate her prayers.
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I can remember always believing I had some kind of destiny that I was made for a purpose.
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I didn't know it was God, but I felt like there was a God.
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So I can remember even as a little child laying out on our front lawn and looking at the stars
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and just praying to God.
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I didn't know Jesus per se, but I would just say over and over, I know you made me for
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a reason.
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So I had that longing to be connected, but I didn't know how to get there.
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So when I went to college, I went to college here in New Mexico.
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I didn't have any friends really.
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And so I joined a sorority, which was very out of character for me because I wasn't that
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kind of girl, honestly.
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So I joined a sorority to meet people and the sorority I happened to join was one of
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the ones with the best morals.
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God did that.
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And I met a girl who was in Campus Crusade for Christ.
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And she took me under her wing one day.
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She said, isn't it just so great to be a Christian?
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And I said, well, I'm not sure that I am.
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I knew that I had this searching, but I didn't know what to do with that.
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So she actually led me through the four spiritual laws right there.
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And I believe I was born again.
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And that at 19 years old started my journey.
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I still had a lot of healing to go.
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Sure.
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And it was an amazing experience to come from a place of complete darkness to a place of
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light.
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And I just felt that my life was a comp.
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You know, when they first Corinthians 521 says that we are a new creation in Christ,
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I actually tangibly felt that it was big.
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Some people, you know, don't have that big experience, which is okay.
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This doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
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But for me, there was some kind of experience.
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And so it was an amazing time, an amazing thing.
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After you had this experience with Jesus feeling a new creation, you started really getting
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into the Word of God, listening to it on tape and reading it and going to church.
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And during that time, you became really struck by the Book of Acts and living the Book of
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Acts.
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Share about that experience as you tried to understand what the Book of Acts was all about.
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Well, I had an insatiable hunger for the Word of God, I believe, because number one, the
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Holy Spirit now lived in me and was, you know, connecting me to the Lord and wanted to show
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me Jesus.
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That's what the Holy Spirit does.
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It reveals Jesus to us.
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And so that was one reason.
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Another reason was because I didn't know anything about the Bible.
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I didn't grow up with Bible stories.
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I may have heard the name David and Goliath, but sometime, but I didn't have any knowledge
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of the Bible.
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And so when I began to read it, it opened up to me in ways that, you know, the Word
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of God, one of my favorite verses in Hebrews.
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The Word of God is living and active.
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It's the only book that you have in your home or on your shelf or in your lap.
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It is actually a living organism.
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That's how I view it.
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So when you read it, it becomes part of the fiber of your spiritual being, your spirit,
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your soul.
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And I think that's so exciting.
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And that's the draw that keeps me going back to it.
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So I just began to study as much as I could, and it became to me a living love letter.
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It just became, you know, the father that had left the bridegroom that I didn't have,
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the relationship and somebody that truly loved me, but also gave me some direction.
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So in order to study the Bible as deeply as I could, I figured out pretty quickly that
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I was reading about a savior that wasn't a white American and that there was culture
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involved.
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And so I understood that, wow, the Bible's not written in English.
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I mean, we have translations, but the original documents weren't in English.
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So I started to learn some of the original languages to better interpret and understand
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the fullness of what the scripture was saying.
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And as you are really delving into scripture and the Holy Spirit was really empowering
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you in your Christian walk, you started that healing journey that you mentioned earlier,
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the healing journey from the wounds of your childhood.
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Tell me a little bit about how God walked you through that healing journey and gave
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you that new identity.
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Well, you mentioned the book of Acts, and I think that's very important to accent here
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because I believe a lot of believers seek healing, but without the power of the Holy
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Spirit, we're really incapacitated because he's the one that is our comforter and our
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healer, the spirit of God living in us.
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So the summer that I had gotten saved and went to a Baptist church and they were not,
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I didn't learn much about the Holy Spirit.
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I was on the Baptist Student Union Council.
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I was teaching discipleship classes and I started to, I was serving, serving a lot,
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but I started to feel just so much dryness and I couldn't figure that out.
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So I went home that summer and I spent the summer reading the book of Acts and I thought,
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wow, I just remember them saying that the Holy Spirit doesn't really move and work the
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way that I'm reading.
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And so why have we not studied this book?
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So I had a series of tapes.
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You remember cassette tapes way back when?
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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And as a young college girl, I would lay in the sun and out in the backyard and I listened
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to those tapes over and over and read, just read the Bible.
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And there was actually one side note that I think is so encouraging is there was a kind
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of a trailer park next to where our home was.
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We lived near the hospital and my mother and my sister and I lived there.
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And there was a lady that would listen to those tapes as I listened to them through
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her trailer.
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And she ended up meeting the Lord through just listening to the book of Acts.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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It was really a neat experience.
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So those, that was a really formative time, you know, as I, as I journeyed forward and
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went back to college and was relieved of my duties as the discipleship coordinator.
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And it started though, the Holy Spirit living in me in such a fuller expression of who he
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is.
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It's more of an immersion and a bubbling out, you know, whatever you want to call it.
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I had an encounter with him and that I believe he started stirring up the waters.
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He knew that I needed to be healed.
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And yeah, and he started me on that journey at that point when I was in college.
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So I came home to, by that time my sister had moved to Roswell, New Mexico where I live
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and she was working and I decided to go to nursing school and I came back here to live
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with her and met a Christian counselor who was very gifted at leading people through
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a healing process.
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And that, that, that opened up, you know, the can of worms, all that.
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I was single at the time, which was really good.
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No one had to walk that through that with me.
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And I feel that the word of God and a trusted advisor, trusted counselor, support from the
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women in my family and a good church were just, you know, the nest egg, the nest I needed
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to receive that healing and understand my identity in Christ.
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That was the biggest probably aha moment in my entire life was understanding that.
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And I think that a lot of women just being in women's ministry and married to a pastor
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and working in our women's ministry, that is the biggest hindrance and also a work of
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the enemy to keep that hidden of how cherished and truly loved we are by the Lord.
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Well, you mentioned that, you know, you married a, you married a pastor and that kind of started
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when you changed churches, when you went to Roswell to, to Roslyn to go to nursing school.
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The timing of your relationship wasn't exactly right when you first met your husband there,
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but share a little bit about that, those early days of meeting Jerry and what God did.
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Well, I was going to, I started going to church there, non-denominational church, and with
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a friend who kept telling me about, Oh, I really want to meet the support, the worship
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pastor.
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And he was a worship leader and a youth leader at this church here in town.
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And she was interested in meeting him.
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So I backed off quite a bit, but he kept coming over to where I was, seemed like we'd run
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into each other all the time.
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And she, she then moved and, and was not interested in him anymore.
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And so we met and we went out on, we used to call them coke dates, you know, we just
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went to Sonic and got a coke trying to just kind of get to know each other.
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There weren't a lot of single Christian believers where I lived and where we lived at the time.
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And so we started a friendship and it was during that time that I felt a call to go
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to Israel.
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How did that come about?
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I mean, that's out of the blue, right?
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Totally.
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Right.
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You'd never traveled before.
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No, I, you know, growing up, I didn't even know any Jewish people.
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I, it was completely a foreign thing to me, except for when I started to really study
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several years before I, I, as I said, I realized that this guy in the Bible, my savior, I mean,
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he's, he has this family and culture and I liken it to when I met my husband, my husband
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is Hispanic and Spaniard.
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And so when I met him, there were a lot of things his family did and words they used
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that I had no clue what that even meant.
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You know, what was a miha and a miho and, you know, why did we only have tortillas and
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beans for dinner?
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And there was just things that they did the way that their family worked that I didn't
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know anything about.
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And it's the same with our savior because he's Jewish.
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So there's so much in the Bible that we don't understand because we don't understand his
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culture and his family.
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And I wanted to know everything about my husband's family because I was in love with him.
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And I felt the same way about Jesus.
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I was falling in love with him and I wanted to know everything about him and that included
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his family.
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So I was working my, I guess my career has always been in psychology somewhat.
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So I was a psychiatric aide in a hospital and I on the side had met somebody that was
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teaching biblical Hebrews.
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So I took the classes because I wanted to know, you know, go deeper.
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And they knew of someone in Israel that needed a nanny and for two little boys and they worked
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for CBN.
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So they needed somebody for a year commitment.
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And I don't know out of the blue, I just felt like, wow, what an opportunity to really know
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Jesus' land and people.
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So I did it.
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I left everything.
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That was before Jerry and I had kind of, we just had those couple of coke dates and so
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there wasn't any spark really, just friends.
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I left for a whole year and I landed in Tel Aviv, flew over to Israel, left my family,
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sold my car and landed in Tel Aviv with a suitcase and looked for my name on a poster,
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you know, because I've never met the family.
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And so I started, that's how I started that journey in Israel for that first year.
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It was incredible.
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Back in those days too, it was more, it's difficult to live in Israel, but it was even
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more difficult.
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But that began that journey.
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So I lived with this family, I took care of two little boys and then I got to go to all
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of the different places and tour and I had time off sometimes to do that and also to
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take Olpon, which is learning the Hebrew language, modern Hebrew.
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I mean, you just fell in love with the land.
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You thought your intention was to just stay there.
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Yes.
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But you came home over the summer for a visit, see family and God redirected your steps very
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surprisingly again.
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So how did he do that?
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Well, I came home just for the summer, as you said, for a break and to check in.
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And everybody at home thought I was coming home for good.
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So they thought I was coming home, but I had a round trip ticket and I informed them when
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I got home that I was going back for another year.
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There was a couple that lived down the street from the original family that I worked for
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and they wrote all of their music.
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They were musicians, they were believers, wrote all of their music into Hebrew gospel
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music to reach Israelis.
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So they offered me a job and I felt like the Lord said to do that.
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So I came home for that summer and lo and behold, Jerry, my future husband, was here
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also and he came home for a summer.
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He was working and traveling with the evangelist at the time singing.
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So we met and we spent the summer together and there was something completely different
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about him.
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He was different.
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He was deeper.
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He was more serious about the Lord than he had been.
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He had had an encounter with the Holy Spirit.
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So we spent that summer together and as friends and I knew I was leaving.
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He knew he was leaving, but there was something there that we didn't say anything about.
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We just left.
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So the second year that I went back to Israel, we wrote letters to each other and we didn't
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have phones, we didn't have the internet, we didn't have email even.
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We just had the old email snail mail.
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That's what we had.
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So it took a week to get a letter, a week to get back.
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You didn't hear from the person.
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I mean, that's discipline.
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And so what was so beautiful about that experience though is through those letters, all we talked
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about was the Lord and our relationship with the Lord.
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And he prayed for me.
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He was my intercessor while I was gone.
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He was here at home just praying and telling me what he was praying.
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So it was really beautiful because we both still have all those letters, the paper letters.
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And we didn't talk about a relationship or dating or anything like that because I felt
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that I was called to live in Israel the rest of my life.
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And I knew that he didn't have that same feeling.
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So what changed?
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Because you live in New Mexico now.
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I knew, I felt this something happening with me and the land.
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Sometimes I think we can have a deep calling, but we can also make an idol out of that calling.
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We can be so attached to it for our, even for our identity or who are we without that
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if we don't have that label or that title.
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And I felt something happening and I had my ticket to go home again for the summer.
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I remember just going up to Yemen Moshe, it's in Jerusalem and looking over at Mount Zion,
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a direct view.
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And I heard the Lord say that this was the last time I was going to see it for a while.
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And I was devastated.
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I was really devastated.
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But I surrendered everything at that moment.
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I said, Jesus, you're my first love, not even anything else, not a calling, not a ministry.
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If I don't ever have anything again and just have you, you're enough.
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So I went back home and Jerry and I had written letters, of course, that whole year.
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And he wrote a letter to me saying that he felt like the Lord was speaking to him about
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our relationship, that it was supposed to go the next step.
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And that I don't remember that time if he said I was going to be his wife.
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I think he said that later.
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But I wrote him back and said, hey, dude, I'm sorry, but I'm called here.
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I had another friend there.
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He was just a friend, but we were sort of investigating whether we were supposed to,
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if the Lord was calling us together.
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I told him all about that.
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And that letter is the only letter out of a whole year of letters that never made it
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to him, never got that letter.
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So he asked my mother if he could pick me up at the airport, which he did.
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And I'd been flying 30 hours and it's not easy to get to Israel from New Mexico.
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And with the moment I got in the car, he said, so what did you think about my letter?
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And I said, what did you think about mine?
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He said, I never got a response.
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So I was really tired.
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I said, listen, let's just have a summer as friends again.
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It's really nice to have another believer.
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I'm not at a point right now, this moment to talk about that, but let's just spend time
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together.
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And then I fell asleep the rest of the way.
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Because our drive to an airport is three hours.
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So we did, we started spending time together.
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And as we did, the Lord just kept speaking to me and I kept trying to push it off and
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ignore it.
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We were friends.
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We were not dating or anything official.
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But I'm not saying that we just automatically got together on the word of the Lord, but
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it was kind of like that.
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We each had a word from the Lord and that we were to be to each other's husband and
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wife.
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And I was developing feelings too.
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I wouldn't say do that without that.
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I'm not saying that.
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So it's a joke in our family with my boys, because when they were teenagers and they
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asked to hear our story, they said, well, that's great for you guys, but we're going
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to date.
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We're going to date girls.
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That's not our story.
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So eventually the Lord spoke to me through his word and I knew that it was the right
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thing.
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We were in church one evening on a Wednesday night and he afterwards was in charge of locking
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up.
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So we were locking up the building and he said, I have a song I want to play you because
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he was a musician.
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So he wrote me a song and he played this beautiful song and then he asked me if I would marry
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him and I was shocked.
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You know, I wasn't expecting it.
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And I was stunned.
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And so we have a joke in our family.
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He's the mercy one and I'm sort of the black and white, you know, stuff comes out of my
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mouth that sometimes shouldn't or it's too black and white.
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And so I said, well, let me think about it.
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And so I did and prayed.
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Oh, I prayed because I knew that if I committed to marry him, that I was going to, I wouldn't
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be going back to Israel for sure.
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That would for sure be a thing.
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And I had to give that up again.
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And I drove to the church parking lot by myself and sat in the car and talked to the Lord
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for hours.
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And finally at the end of it, I felt like the Lord said, Rebecca, you're not going to
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know me any more deeply than you do right now unless you get married and have that relationship
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so that I can teach you more about my deep love.
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And so I surrendered my singlehood.
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I mean, I had to give it up.
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I was 27 by then and independent and he kind of was too.
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And so I'll never forget just having to give that to him as a gift.
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And so that's how that happened.
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And we got engaged and five months later got married.
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We never dated.
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I, you know, we never had any physical contact.
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And we, you know, held hands and he kissed me, I think, when he, when I said yes.
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And that was about it.
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So five months later, we were married.
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Wow.
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And that was a whole new experience for you because he was a music pastor and a worship
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leader and that required you to move around a little bit from place to place.
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And eventually and quite supernaturally, Jerry was called to be a senior pastor.
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Yes.
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Back in the same city of New Mexico where your families were.
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Just tell about that story a little bit, how that happened.
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Well, we were, we moved around several times when the kids were little because he was,
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you know, an associate pastor, a worship leader.
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And we were living in Texas at the time and we were traveling through, could be that job
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had ended.
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We were traveling through on our way to California to check out a new position for him.
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And we stopped here in town along the way to visit our family.
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And we stopped in at a church where a lot of our friends went to church.
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The day we stopped in, their worship leader resigned and their pastor.
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Wow.
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So we had friends coming up.
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I mean, they, it was like, they ran up to us and said, you need to, you need to be our
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worship pastor.
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And then someone else came up and said, you need to be our pastor.
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We said, no, we're going to California.
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So we had made a commitment that the next church that we went to would be a really good
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fit for our kids, for our boys, that, that the children's church and the children's ministry
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would be strong.
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And when we got to California to check out this church, they didn't, they didn't have
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one really at all.
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There were two or three kids in a back room with volunteer people every now and then.
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So we didn't feel the connection.
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And Jerry really wanted, he's comes from a strong, you know, Hispanic background, very
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family oriented.
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He wanted to be near his parents and, and my mother lived here and my sister lived here.
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My mom was remarried, lived on a ranch near here.
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00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:52,880
We had people contacting us and just asking us to apply.
447
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They had a search committee.
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I'd never heard of that before, but they, they had one.
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And so we were the first, first people to apply for that job.
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And we decided that while we waited, we'd come here and we'd lived with his parents
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in a little tiny house and got along by the grace of God just wonderfully.
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And we were the first to apply and we were at the very last man standing.
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And so they, they ended up, we, it was five to six months later.
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That, uh, that we ex homeschooled the boys during that time.
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And we all lived in one little bedroom.
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It was crazy.
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And you know, you go home sometimes to live when you're 25 or 26 out of college or, but
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not when you're 40.
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So, but he was, so he was hired here as the senior pastor and we were a little terrified
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honestly, cause he, he didn't have a Bible degree.
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He hadn't, that wasn't in our, in our view really, except for that I had seen the development
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of his gifts changing is he's very strong, good in a very good leader.
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And, and, uh, I, I started to see the transition.
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So I w I wasn't that surprised, but, uh, we've been here now 22 years.
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Wow.
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Well, things at the church and in your family and everything seemed to be just going really
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well when you got a call in the middle of the night that really rocked your world a
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little bit.
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What happened?
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We got a call at two o'clock in the morning.
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One night we'd been at the, we'd only been there two years at the church.
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The name of our church is Christ church.
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It's a non-denominational church and our church was on fire.
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So they called my husband.
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Um, I was of course home with the boys.
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My mom happened to be in town staying with us.
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So not long after he left, I left to, to, to go to the church and it was an arson fire
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started by a young man, uh, with a Molotov cocktail, just threw it into, happened to
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throw it into through the window into the, um, closet where we keep all of the decorations
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and you know, floral plants.
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Very flammable.
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Yeah.
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Went right up.
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Um, it was a horrible experience.
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We just had a funeral for my best friend's daughter that day.
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So it had been a really hard time.
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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:41,360
And when, when it happened, the amount of pressure and the investigations that are open
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during a church fire, we had no clue.
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00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,440
The ATF moved in, the FBI moved into our parking lot and trailers.
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They interviewed our staff.
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They interviewed my husband over and over alone.
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They would take him into this trailer and I, I tried my best just to keep it together
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for my kids and for our congregation.
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So I didn't process it well because I was, I wouldn't say I was trying to be the strong
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one, but I was trying to help everyone else navigate what was happening because you know,
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they'd had few there, they had loved ones die and be have funeral in that church.
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They got married in that church.
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They got baptized.
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And so, um, the whole church burned to the ground because the fire got up in between
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the walls and in between, we had a double roof.
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00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:41,680
It was a complete, um, it completely burned down to the ground, except for our youth center
502
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was still, was still there.
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So, uh, I didn't know it at the time that how, how it had affected me.
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00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,760
Yeah, but after months you were on, you were basically in go mode, right?
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It really took a toll on you.
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00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,200
So what did you start experiencing and how did, how did God pull you through it?
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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:09,440
I started experiencing like heart issues, like a lot of, uh, tachycardia or skipped
508
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beats.
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I, so I went to get my heart checked.
510
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,340
Uh, my husband also was having trouble.
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00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:20,520
He would get, he had his heart, you know, we, there were just all these physical, physical
512
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,200
from the stress, physical manifestations that started happening.
513
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,680
And um, I, I woke up one night in a complete panic attack.
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00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,880
I'd never had a panic attack.
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00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,200
You know, I flew to the middle East.
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00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960
I didn't deal a lot with fear.
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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,720
I felt like in my, you know, I, I didn't know that I did.
518
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:46,440
Uh, and, but fear and anxiety, I think that that's a misconception because fear and anxiety
519
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are two different things.
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Anxiety is a definite illness and it's a definite physical manifestation of something.
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It's a completely different animal than what most people think.
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00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:05,380
So, uh, and I knew people that were on medication and I didn't judge that, but I didn't feel
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like for me that I would ever do that.
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00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:14,840
It was, it was, I, I had a, you know, it was pride, probably just pride.
525
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,160
And so I started having more and more issues.
526
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,160
I couldn't sleep.
527
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,560
I was having, um, I couldn't eat.
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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:31,040
I was having a severe, it was an on, it was like one big long pan panic attack.
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00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,320
My mom had to stay with us.
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00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,280
My mother had to take care of the boys.
531
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,460
And uh, that was a, that was a, that was the first time in my life I had, I did not feel
532
00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:42,820
the presence of God whatsoever.
533
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:46,720
I was completely stunned that I know people that go through hard times and they say, Oh,
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00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,280
I had so much peace.
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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Well, not everybody goes through it that way.
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00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,720
And there's a misconception I think in the body of Christ that, Oh, you know, just cast
537
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,120
all your cares on him and you'll get over it.
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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,480
And uh, all kinds of things that we tell each other platitudes.
539
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,900
Um, cause we don't know a lot of it, a lot of it is just, we don't know how to help.
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00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:14,720
So I learned a lot about anxiety and depression during those times, which has been extremely
541
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:23,480
helpful during the last two to three years because I help a lot of women in this area
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00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,360
with those, those issues.
543
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480
So I eventually had to be on medication.
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00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,480
I had to go to a doctor.
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00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,640
I couldn't, I don't know how I got to, it was a miracle.
546
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,120
I got to a doctor cause I didn't want to go to a doctor.
547
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:42,240
I was afraid I would get put in a, some kind of institution away from my family.
548
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:48,960
And um, I had a friend that knew about a doctor that lived about practice about three hours
549
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,360
from us.
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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,200
And one day I just called out of the blue.
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00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,520
I don't, it, it was, it was just the Lord and I asked for an appointment and they said,
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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160
no, we don't have any appointments for four to six weeks.
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00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,420
I said, I don't know if I'll be around then.
554
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:12,360
So they said, well, if you, if you can get, no, I remember I called back that next morning.
555
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,160
I called every day to see if they had a cancellation.
556
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,240
And they said, if you can get here by 10 o'clock, um, you can have this appointment.
557
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:25,120
And I got there about one minute late, but my husband had to drive me.
558
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,800
I couldn't even drive at that point.
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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:35,760
Now people who know me were so shocked because I seem like such a strong person.
560
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:43,200
And, uh, I think I carried that outward independence and confidence that wasn't real.
561
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,320
It really wasn't, but it was what I used, you know, to cope and to live.
562
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,900
So during that time of going through that experience and, and then having to identify
563
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:03,080
with other people with mental illness, I was one of them all of a sudden.
564
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,520
And you know, watching how people look at you and they don't know how to talk to you
565
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:13,200
and you know, all the things that go along with that.
566
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,900
Um, I, I gained such a heart for people that struggle with that.
567
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,680
And we all do to some degree, especially now in our world.
568
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,360
Um, anxiety is rampant even in our children.
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00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Uh, now we have children that are on antidepressants, you know, little, little bitties.
570
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,840
So, um, I, the Lord broke my heart and, and I, I was broken and I, I needed it.
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00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,440
You know, I, I heard a minister one time say, you can't really love other people until you're
572
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120
just reduced to love.
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00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,960
And that's what happened to me.
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00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,280
And so that heart exterior and some of the, the, I had a lot of change to my personality
575
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,280
as well.
576
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
It became much more merciful.
577
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,480
And so, um, I thank God for that experience.
578
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,080
I hated it.
579
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,880
I would never want to go through it again, but it was invaluable to my walk with him
580
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,040
when I started to receive healing.
581
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:26,560
The, the, I don't even have to describe the, the, how to say my relationship with him was
582
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000
just went to a different level.
583
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:37,760
It, it, it was amazing to me and I learned so much about rest.
584
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,040
I learned about works that we do.
585
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,940
I learned about, you know, performance based acceptance that people, we all struggle with
586
00:41:46,940 --> 00:41:51,760
and why we do the things that we do, why we get involved in things.
587
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Sometimes we're just trying to get our needs met, um, for affirmation, for love, whatever
588
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,280
they are, you know, the, uh, apart from Christ, that's what we call the flesh walking in the
589
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,280
flesh.
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00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:11,160
And so, um, it formed everything that I do now with women, I believe.
591
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,640
Well, you know, Rebecca, you talk about deepening your relationship with the Lord and, uh, we
592
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:23,760
hear a lot of sermons on that, you know, but, you know, how, how do you have a meaningful
593
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,220
quiet time with the Lord?
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00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:26,920
How do you relate to God?
595
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,840
Um, what did you learn through that?
596
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,240
What are some practical, practical, I don't want to say tips, but you know, they all
597
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:40,440
are, you know, how do you practically have a quiet time with God that turns into a meaningful
598
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,440
communication?
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00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,720
Can you, can you share?
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00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:48,680
I think one of the greatest desires of the father is that we understand that when we're
601
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,120
born again and come into relationship with him, it's not because he needs somebody to
602
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,760
be his secretary.
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00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,180
He does that because he wants to be connected with us.
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00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,120
He wants union.
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00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,280
You know, the Bible says that we were baptized with him.
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00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,800
We were buried with him, but we were also raised with him.
607
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,000
That's a very intimate thing.
608
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,720
And now we're seated in heavenly places.
609
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:18,880
You know, people explain the Bible away a lot by saying, oh, that's positionally because
610
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,200
they haven't had the experience, most of us.
611
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,600
And I understand that.
612
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000
And I'm not saying every day I feel like I'm, you know, living in the heavenlies or anything
613
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000
like that.
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00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,720
But what initially healed me was understanding my identity as the bride of Christ, how cherished
615
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:45,880
I was and how God's first number one priority and desire is to have union with his beloved.
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00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:54,000
And we are his beloved because the Bible starts with the creation of a man and a woman, let's
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00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,580
say a wedding.
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00:43:55,580 --> 00:44:02,200
The middle of the Bible is Song of Solomon, which is the greatest place to start that
619
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,560
if you want something practical, the Song of Solomon became my roadmap.
620
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,080
So I'm in it all the time.
621
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,120
I've studied it for years because it describes how God really feels about us, our relationship
622
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:25,400
with him and the transition that we make from feeling so dark, but yet lovely into by the
623
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,280
time you get to Revelation, we're getting married again.
624
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,680
It's the way we became the wife of the lamb.
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00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,720
How do you do that?
626
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:40,920
So as I meditated on all those things, you know, it's a process, but when I approach
627
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:47,840
my time with the Lord, I call it going into the secret place or I don't call it sitting
628
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,920
down to read my Bible or having a quiet time.
629
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,360
I say, I'm going into the garden or the secret place or I call it a chamber.
630
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,880
Just on a Bible study, I wrote, that's what I call it and I approach it like I'm going
631
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000
into really meet with God.
632
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,360
So some practical tips that have helped me because I do have, I have had dry times.
633
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:17,000
It's not that, you know, but some of the things that have helped me really a lot is making
634
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:24,360
sure that when I hit that chair, I have a chair I sit in where I have my time, my concentrated
635
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,760
time with the Lord.
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00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:33,160
We should practice the presence of God all through the day, but we know that we, as a
637
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:41,600
beloved, if you love somebody to have undistracted time alone is gold.
638
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,760
So I approach that time.
639
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,920
One of the things that's helped me a lot is to just begin so simple, but just to begin
640
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,080
with adoration and gratitude.
641
00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,120
Instead of just, you know, getting out my Devo and getting out my prayer list in my
642
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,920
journal and you know, sometimes we approach that time like, okay, checklist, check, I
643
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,920
did it, I did it.
644
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,640
And then if we don't do it, we feel guilty.
645
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,800
But you know, that time with the Lord is not a checklist.
646
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,960
I mean, this is your meeting with the God of heaven and the God of the Bible, like your
647
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,800
bridegroom, the one you're going to spend eternity with.
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00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:24,200
The most important person you will spend the rest of your life with is Jesus.
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00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,680
And so I do a lot of adoration and I'm not really good.
650
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,960
I'm not a writer, so I'm not super good at flower language and all that.
651
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,520
It doesn't have to be that.
652
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320
I just start by telling him I love him.
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I say, I love you, Lord.
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If I've read something about him, I say, say that about him.
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You are mighty.
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You're so mighty.
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You're stunning to me, God.
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Just a love language with him, developing just a love language with him.
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And it seems really simple, but the Holy Spirit envelops that.
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00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:02,520
And he comes and he sits with me.
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00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,480
And it's the Holy Spirit that shows us Jesus.
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00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,360
So I, you know, you've heard this probably before.
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It takes God to love God.
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It takes the Holy Spirit in me to give the kind of love that Jesus is worthy of, because
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human love isn't going to do it.
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I don't have that.
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I don't have that kind of love.
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00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,000
I have to get it from the Spirit.
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And so I start with like that, you know, or telling what I'm grateful for or how blessed
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I am.
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00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:34,360
And it's incredible how that is just a springboard, you know, to go on like this morning.
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You know, I love to declare the word.
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I believe in that.
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I love decreeing and declaring the word of God because it's living and active.
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I do that over my grandchildren.
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00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,960
I do that over my kids, over our ministry.
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00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,960
But this morning I started just with that adoration and I didn't want to do anything
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else.
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Now your brain will tell you, oh no, you didn't cover this.
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You didn't cover that.
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But you did the most important thing of the whole day.
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You gave the King of the universe the glory that's due his name.
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And in these times, turbulent times that we're going to be walking in more, more and more,
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we to be transformed into what we need to be transformed into the mighty bride of Christ.
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You know, we're a warrior bride.
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We're going to have to have that kind of connection and union.
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So it's the most important thing to me right now on the earth is to see and to call up
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the bride of Christ to walk in who she is and to know who she's in love with.
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It's so good.
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You know, around this whole time when you were coming out of your anxiety and deepening
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00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:56,320
your relationship with the Lord, God had a surprise for you because he was reconnecting
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00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,360
your heart to Israel, a place you had given up.
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00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,360
You laid it down before the Lord.
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And he birthed a calling in you that's really taken a whole lot of forms.
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00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,680
Let's share a little bit.
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I mean, you do a lot with Israel now, but share a little bit about what God's some of
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the amazing things God's done with your.
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00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,920
Yes.
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When God placed in my heart that love for his people and his land, it was completely
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just a calling.
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I out of the blue.
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That was years and years ago.
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And yes, there were times I had to just put it on hold and trust him that one day maybe
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something would happen.
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00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,320
It was actually my husband came to me when my kids had grown and gone on and he said,
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00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:54,700
you know, I just feel like sad that you have, have you forgotten about your love for Israel?
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And I just want, I want to release you to follow that calling.
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00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:05,960
Well, at the time I was teaching, which I still do, I was teaching the women at our
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church and I wrote, I say wrote, but I delivered a Bible study on Deborah, the prophetess.
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It was a Bible study.
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It was just easier for me instead of watching a video and doing other studies to just develop
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my own at the time.
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So I just did it for the women at our church.
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And at that time I was going to go on back to my first trip to Israel.
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I was so excited.
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I didn't think I'd ever get to go again based on the anxiety.
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How can you get on an airplane?
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So I wrote that Bible study, my, my little group, they took up an offering.
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They knew I knew I was going, was going with 10 other ladies and joining a tour.
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And I took up an offering to just give to a woman that I had known that known that I'd
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worked for that had gone through a horrible divorce and her husband was kicked out of
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the country.
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She was in the U.S. for two years and she was left with kids she'd adopted.
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And I took up an offering to take to her and I got there and gave her the offering and
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she told me about all the other friends she had that were in the same position and how
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hard it is to live in Israel and how the place where the family is, has the greatest significance,
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I would say on the earth in Israel is the place that is where the family is being attacked.
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So when I got home, I had a friend who said, you know, Rebecca, this is your heart.
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And I remember just weeping for days over what I'd experienced with her.
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And so we, because I was teaching as Bible study on Deborah, the prophets, we just said,
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well, let's just start the Deborah project.
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And we did.
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Three of us, we did.
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We started it and I applied for a five oh one C three and we went through that whole
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process of becoming a nonprofit.
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And we started this project that started out with single mothers and widows, divorced women
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and orphans.
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And we just started raising funds and through our Bible studies and teaching.
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And that's how that was born.
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And that was 11 years ago.
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It's 11 years old.
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And I want to quit about every other day, but it takes the beauty of it is it takes
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me to Israel three or four times a year.
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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,760
And it's opened up doors just to connect with people that I can't like you.
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00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,440
I got to connect with you through Israel.
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One of my best friends I met in Israel, even though they're from America.
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So I, I do that too.
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I take a love to take people to Israel for that light bulb to go on about the land and
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you know, the love that Jesus has for his people too.
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And our and the covenant that's still in existence.
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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,400
So I'm I now I birth a lot of prayer groups.
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00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,640
I'm involved in doing a lot of that and teaching online.
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00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:19,680
I teach a it's a study that we started during COVID and it's just kept going.
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And every Israel is infused in everything that I do.
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And I work with the Jewish agency some with bringing Jews back home to Israel according
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to prophecy.
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But I do most of everything I do out of relationship and it really God opens the doors.
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00:53:36,340 --> 00:53:43,880
I'm not it's not a big nonprofit, but it's been incredible just to see how this, you
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00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:50,040
know, pastors why from this little city in New Mexico, one of the poorest states in the
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union and what the Lord has done.
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And that's the thing I want to communicate to other women to help launch them into their
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God given dreams that we're in partnership with Jesus and we get to do we don't do this
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for him.
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He wants us to do this with him and it's never too late.
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You're never too old.
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There's many, many people that went before me that probably said no, that were more qualified.
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But I just believe I try when the Lord I feel the Lord asking me to do something to say
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yes right away before I have time to think about it.
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That's not always good, but I have other people who are the thinkers around me.
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Well, you know, as you've taken care of what got what's on God's heart, the Lord has taken
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care of what's been on your heart.
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And you saw a miracle in your family.
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Just take a few minutes and share about what happened.
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Thank you for asking that because if there are listeners out there that are believing
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00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:55,200
for a miracle, I, I, this was an incredible experience for my family.
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00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,840
And we, we believe in miracles, right?
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00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:03,640
As believers generally, but we don't always believe that miracle can happen for us.
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00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,640
And those miracles manifest in all kinds of different ways, not necessarily in a beautiful
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00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,880
outcome, but sometimes through a beautiful life.
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00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,360
But my kids always had trouble getting pregnant.
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And we have an anointing for some reason at our church for women to have had a hard time
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conceiving.
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So one Mother's Day we had a message and the Lord gave me a word just to share with our
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people that he wanted to touch people to get pregnant.
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So my kids came up for prayer to my husband and I talk about, you know, this rivers of
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tears.
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So they got pregnant with my first grandson.
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They always had trouble conceiving and they, they moved to Denver.
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My husband, my, sorry, my older son is a pastor now and they were done having kids at two
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because it took a lot just to get the two.
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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,240
Well, she and my daughter-in-law ended up pregnant.
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And right after they got to Denver, they'd had a lot of transition in their lives and
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church hurt all kinds of things.
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And so I wasn't, I didn't know at first if I was super thrilled, like I thought the time
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was not real great, you know?
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And so she, they were, they were excited.
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It was going to be their third.
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And this was just a year ago, year and a half ago, two years.
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And they told us that they were pregnant and all was fine.
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Well, she went to all of her appointments at first trimester.
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And then the second trimester, my son called me one day and said, mom, I don't know what
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00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,180
to do, but we've had a horrible diagnosis on the baby.
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00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:50,960
They want us to terminate the pregnancy, which of course we won't do.
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00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,180
My daughter-in-law said, we're going to love whatever God gives us.
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00:56:55,180 --> 00:57:00,980
But every week there was, there was, there were so many, I've never seen so many tests
806
00:57:00,980 --> 00:57:06,720
on a baby that's not even born yet.
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00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,320
Every step of the way, they, they wanted them to terminate the pregnancy.
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00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,680
And I told my daughter-in-law, I said, you tell them if they ask you that one more time,
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00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,080
you're getting a different doctor.
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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:22,120
So she got a different doctor and they did MRIs, all kinds of things all throughout.
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Well, he was missing a major component in his brain.
812
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,080
It's, it's in the middle of your brain.
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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:35,560
It's, it's, it's an organ almost that helps your both sides of your brain communicate.
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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,640
And if you don't have that, you don't know how to eat.
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You don't know how to walk.
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00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,500
You don't know how to talk.
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00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:48,940
So they started connecting them with agencies for, you know, wheelchairs and tracheotomy,
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00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:54,280
all that stuff that he was going to be severely, severely handicapped.
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So we pray throughout the whole time.
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And I told him, he said, what am I going to do, mom?
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I said, honey, I, I don't want to, I, I'm not taking away from the, how horrible this
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is.
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I get it.
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But the only thing I know to do, the only thing I know to do is to stand on the word
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of God over this.
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I don't know how to do anything else.
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So the Lord gave me Matthew 1926.
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It says with man, this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.
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So when she went into labor, she allowed me and her mom to go in with her.
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There were nine doctors in there because we were at a neonatal unit and in a hospital
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where they could take him immediately and have him checked out.
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00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:50,080
And so when he, when they had an MRI right before the delivery a few days, and yes, the
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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:56,960
same diagnosis, we have the films, we have actual pictures of this corpus callosum is
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called is missing.
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It's not there in his brain.
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So we just continued to pray and we had prayer from all over the world for this little, this
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little baby.
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And they had told him he didn't have fingers, told her all kinds of things.
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So when he was born, he, he was born naturally, you know, there we are and about half the
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00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:30,480
doctors leave and we kind of, we're looking around like that's, that's unusual.
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00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:36,240
So he, one of the biggest signs is can he latch on and you know, breastfeed, which he
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00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,240
did.
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00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,880
And so they started running tests on him.
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He was crying, he was acting normal.
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And the next day they, we had to wait a whole 24 hours.
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00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:56,880
They did another MRI and the doctor came in and said, we don't know how to explain this.
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00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Everything that you were told before is true because I looked at the films that was not
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01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,280
there.
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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:11,360
But I'm telling you that that, that the corpus callosum is there and fully formed, present
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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,320
and on paper.
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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:20,480
I took a picture of the document, you know, just to have a picture of the document.
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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,480
So you know, that was, that was like way up to the, to the very last minute.
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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,800
We didn't, we didn't know.
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01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,360
We didn't, we didn't know.
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01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:36,800
The only thing we knew was to latch on with our might to prayer and the word of God.
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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,760
He is the most incredible little baby.
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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:48,120
He's he's they, they still want him to pass these certain milestones, you know, any, any
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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,240
is every single one of them.
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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,120
So, oh gosh.
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01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,120
Yeah.
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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,120
So good.
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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,120
Incredible.
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01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Incredible.
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01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:02,160
So if, if you are believing for a miracle or any of your listeners are, I just, I just
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unite my heart with you and believe with you that that, that really can happen.
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01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,080
Sometimes, like I said before, you know, we, we know families and have precious families
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that have kids that struggle, but that's a miracle too.
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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,240
You know, I mean, the things that they learn and go through and, and how they grow in their
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faith is just as much a miracle.
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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,960
So anyway, God is so good.
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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,240
Name is Bronx, which is a very different name.
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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,240
I know.
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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:34,200
And when my son first told me he wanted to name him Bronx, I said, uh, you know, I zipped
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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,200
my lips shut.
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01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,320
I was like, Oh my gosh, that is the strangest.
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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Why would you want to make anyway, when I looked it up, what the meaning is, it means
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01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,920
breaker, breaker, breaker, anointing.
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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,840
He's breaking every milestone and it's, it's really neat.
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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,840
So
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01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,840
well, that is, that is an amazing, amazing thing that God did.
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01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,360
And he is an amazing God.
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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,360
He does amazing things.
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01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:07,880
Well Rebecca, uh, has we close, would you share just a minute as I ask all my guests
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about a woman of the Bible, um, whose story has encouraged or inspired or taught you something?
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Well, I'd have to say, of course, Deborah, the, I call her Deborah, the brave, the first
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female judge in the Bible, prophetess and judge.
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And it, it encourages me that to see that God is raising up Deborah's in our hour, in
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this hour on the earth.
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He's raising up women as we know, and, uh, we're becoming warriors, but we're soft hearted
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warriors and I love her story because, uh, she was a woman of integrity.
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She was married.
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Her name in Hebrew means be or lightning.
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And actually her husband's name means keeper of the flame.
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So um, I think that's a great synergy that they, they probably had together as a couple,
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but she used to judge Israel up on a hill underneath the Tamarisk tree.
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It was kind of like a canopy and she did it.
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Um, she, she counseled and judged the people openly so that there was no question about
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her integrity.
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But what I love about it is that that tree means canopy and it means chamber.
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She had her own to me area where probably she and God dwelled.
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I just envisioned that, but, um, she wasn't alone in fighting the battles that she fought
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and she relied on her general Barack.
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We know she relied on, um, yeah, L another female who helped carry out and win the war
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for Israel during that time.
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And what I love about Deborah is that she was willing to give credit to others because
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in Deborah's song and judges chapter five, it says that it was a woman who won the war
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and she wasn't talking about herself.
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She was talking about it to someone else.
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And so I love that about her, that she was willing to raise up other women and let other
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women be in the spotlight and not she herself.
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And even in Hebrews chapter 11, what's so interesting is it talks about, you know, the
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heroes of the faith, those who inherited the promises and they walked by faith, sometimes
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not seeing the fulfillment of it.
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And you know, she's not mentioned in there.
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They mentioned Barack that story.
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And I, I just think she's probably just chuckled, you know, to herself, like it doesn't matter
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as long as God gets the glory.
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I'm all right.
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You know?
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So one of the things she said to Barack that I think is so vital is she said, this day,
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the Lord has given your enemy into your hands because he has gone before you.
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And I, I, I can't tell you how many times that has helped me through my life.
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The Lord Jesus Christ has gone before us into the battle.
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He's already gone into the battle and he's handed over our enemies to us.
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So it's our job to fight for these little ones, to fight for the next generation, to
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open up our hearts to what he's doing on the earth and get involved, be engaged after we
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spend time in the secret place.
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That is a good word.
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Well you know, James four versus seven and eight a in the new, new international version
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says submit yourselves then to God, resist the devil and he will flee from you.
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Come near to God and he will come near to you.
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As you've said, the best way to resist the devil is drawing near to God first.
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As we do that, our desires change, our perspectives change.
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We want what God wants.
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He gives us the courage and power to do what he wants us to do, um, to fulfill the purposes
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he has for us, just like he's done in your life.
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Rebecca, would you just take a moment and pray for our listeners?
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Baba, I just thank you for every daughter of the king that is out there today that may
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hear, hear us sharing about, about the king of kings.
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And Lord, I just ask that every woman, uh, under the sound of our voice would reach out
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to you today would, with just her own, her own way of saying yes to you, whatever you're
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asking her to do, but more importantly, Lord, that she would be stirred to want to know
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you in a deeper way, just to enter into union with you on such a deep level.
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It's, it's, it's the thing that will relieve us of all of our, all of our questions and
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our, our heartache and everything is, is in that place.
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And so I just ask Lord that you would empower women today to enter into the secret place,
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to spend time with you, to be empowered, to be encouraged, to be healed.
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And Lord, if there is someone out there that is in need of a healing today, I just unite
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my faith, Jody and I do with that, that, that one.
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And we just say, don't give up.
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There's hope.
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Jesus loves you.
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He's good.
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He's a good God.
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His desire is to heal you and to heal your family member.
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And so we just unite our faith together and say with man is impossible, but with God,
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all things are possible.
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So thank you for signs and wonders today for miracles happening and Lord, we thank you
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in the mighty name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Well, thank you for tuning in.
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Don't drop off yet.
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You're going to hear a priestly prayer in just a minute, but check out our show notes
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at her God story.org for scripture and other information that we talked about.
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So now Rebecca, would you declare that priestly prayer over us?
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I will.
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I'd just like to bless all of us today.
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And I'm going to do this first in Hebrew and then I'll do it in English.
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This prayer is it was done by the priest.
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It's out of numbers.
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I'm sure many of you know it, but it's it was done so that it says that God could put
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his name on the people.
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So when we receive this blessing, it's his name being stamped on us, which I think is
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a beautiful, beautiful description.
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So let's all pray it in Hebrew first.
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They are a hot on I guess.
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Miracle.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I know.
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They they.
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They saw I don't know.
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I don't know.
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They just send.
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They have shalom.
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May the Lord bless you and keep you.
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May the Lord shine his face upon you and be gracious to you.
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May the Lord lift his face upon you and give you his peace.
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Amen.
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