Feb. 26, 2024

Former Addict Now Free, Alison Hill's Story

Former Addict Now Free, Alison Hill's Story
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Her God Story with Jodie Chiricosta

God’s love pursues us! Alison Hill experienced the hound of heaven pursuing her and finally realized the love and freedom that comes from complete surrender to Jesus, the lover of our souls. Once addicted to drugs, she went from homeless drug addict to daughter of the King. Listen as Alison and host Jodie Chiricosta share her journey from outcast to daughter. You will be inspired to pray for those who seemingly have no hope.  And you will be encouraged as you hear how even in our darkest moments, God pursues us with His love. 

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Hey friends, welcome to the Her God Story podcast where you will always hear a good

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story to encourage and inspire you in your walk with the Lord.

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I'm your host, Jodie Chiricosta, ministry leader at Somebody Cares America and International,

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author and traveler on this journey with Jesus.

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I would love to hear from you.

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Let me know what you like about this podcast, how you first heard about it, who has been

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your favorite guest, and anything else you want me to know.

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Just send me an email at hergodstory at somebodycares.org.

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Francis Thompson was a 17th century British poet who wrote a famous poem called The Hound

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of Heaven.

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He was an opium addict in a day where it was sold as over-the-counter medicine, and he

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lived in poverty and poor health, but the unrelenting love of Jesus reached even him.

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The poem describes Thompson's flight from God and God's insistent pursuit of him.

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Here are a few phrases from that poem.

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I fled him down the nights and down the days.

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I hid from him under running laughter.

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I sped from the strong feet that followed after me.

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The poem ends with the pursuit realizing that he was followed out of love, not judgment,

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and he receives that love.

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John Stott, a famous theologian who went to be with the Lord in 2011, wrote, My faith

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is due to Christ Jesus himself, who pursued me relentlessly, even when I was running away

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from him in order to go my own way.

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And if it were not for the gracious pursuit of the Hound of Heaven, I would today be on

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a scrap heap of wasted and discarded lives.

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My guest, Allison Hill, has experienced the Hound of Heaven pursuing her and of realizing

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the love and freedom that come from complete surrender to Jesus, the lover of our souls.

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Once addicted to drugs, she found freedom and restoration in Christ.

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And years later, while working as a general manager for a car dealership in Pennsylvania,

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she also spent significant time ministering to those struggling with addiction.

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Allison is married, has two children, and now serves with her husband as part of a pastoral

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team at Bridge Church in Chesapeake, Virginia.

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There are so many facets to her story.

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I know God will encourage and speak to you as you listen.

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Welcome, Allison.

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Hey, thanks for having me.

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I'm excited to be here.

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Allison, you grew up attending church, but like many of us, you wanted to do things your

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own way on your own terms.

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And your teenage rebellion led into something that had dire consequences.

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Share about your early life and what seemingly harmless thing nearly destroyed you.

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I grew up in church.

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My grandmother, my father's mom, she played the piano in church.

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She taught Bible study at her house.

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So my dad was, you know, just he was filled with faith.

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Everything was always like, let's pray about that.

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We should pray anytime you would call my dad, he was the prayer warrior.

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And so on Sunday, it was like, you know, we get up and we go to church.

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And so I grew up in that in my teenage years, like I had two older brothers who, you know,

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they stopped coming going to church.

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My dad didn't force them to go.

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And a lot of Sundays, it was just my dad and I that went to church.

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And then at some point, I stopped going.

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He didn't force us to go.

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But that's where he was going.

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You know, he didn't force Jesus on you.

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But like you knew that's where he was going up until like a certain point.

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And when I started in my teenage years, what I started doing, you know, I started experimenting

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and I thought I was partying and being social.

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And I didn't know that, you know, I was, I didn't know I was a drug addict.

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I thought I was doing what everybody was doing.

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I thought I was just, you know, having a fun time.

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And I thought I didn't really think much of it.

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And so it started out with, you know, like smoking weed and drinking alcohol.

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And then I found these little things that took me outside of me.

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And I thought, like, what a fun time I was just having, you know, I just I truly thought

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that and it just started out so little.

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And then eventually, what happened in our area, we had a lot of doctors who were prescribing

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opioids so they were prescribing Oxycontin to people.

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And it was huge where I was at.

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I quickly realized, you know, not only can I get involved in that, but I can also get

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stuff and have it all the time.

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And again, I thought I was just having a good time.

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And when I say that to just to clarify, I started using drugs at the age of 13.

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So using drugs and alcohol at the age of 13, I didn't just start with opioids.

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But we got there.

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And I wouldn't say I was in full blown addiction for a few years after that.

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But I was using pretty heavily and I was doing everything.

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So ecstasy and acid.

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I mean, you name it.

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I was trying it.

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And again, I just thought like I'm just partying and having just a fun time and I'm young.

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And I didn't realize all the consequences that were going to come down the pipe later

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on.

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I didn't realize.

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And drug addiction happens a whole lot faster than people realize.

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And as a teenager, you were prescribed these opioids by underhanded doctors.

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I mean, these were doctors who were prescribing it without beyond what people needed.

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And you had no idea that it would lead to long term addiction.

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It was several years before the effects of those prescriptions were really understood

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by the public, let alone you.

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And you went through your high school and college years really as a functioning addict.

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But when the doctors were arrested and the legal source ended, things took a real turn

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for the worse.

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So what did you do and where did you turn?

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You know, now what's crazy is there's movies about it, like the Big Pharma Company.

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There's all of these movies and so and there's documentaries about it.

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And so and I have watched them like now having, you know, significant clean time.

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I've watched them and then I'm like, oh, that's how that was going on.

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Oh, that's how that was happening.

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And it's so real because I actually experienced it and lived it.

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And so like I specifically remember like the doctors being there and there was the lines

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outside the building because you would just go and you'd pay your cash and they give you

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your prescriptions and everybody was just doing that.

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And so I was able to be a functioning addict.

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I did it.

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I still didn't know that I even had an issue.

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I didn't know that I had a problem because I never ran out of drugs.

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So it was never a problem for me.

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And like I remember in college, like my roommates and and then would say to me like, how are

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you going to like because I would get up and at this point, I wasn't taking pills like

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by mouth.

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I was breaking them down.

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Right.

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And so and that was another thing that with Oxycontin that when when the drug world learned

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that you can take that time release coding off, that's how it it went into this full

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sledge addiction for a lot of people in the epidemic and the pandemic.

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All these things started happening.

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But I remember my roommates specifically asking me like, you're going to take now you're going

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to go to class because you just took that.

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Like how are you going to go to class?

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And my mindset was like, how are you not going to take something and go to class?

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Because I if I didn't have it, I couldn't function.

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But I was fully functioning because I was dependent on it.

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So I needed it in order to function, you know, and because it was, you know, with the doctor,

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I thought that was OK.

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And then we slowly started doctors would get arrested and then other ones would come from

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like Florida or here and it would start a new cycle of it and then they would get arrested

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and then slowly it became very difficult.

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You couldn't get them.

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And so for me, it was street drugs.

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Now I have to go to the streets because I don't know where else to get this.

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And so, you know, that's it was like a transition.

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But still, my mind would say that, like, well, it's OK because like, you know, it's still

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your medicine or it's still your medication and you're just functioning off of it.

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It was a long process because that was 19 years from the age of 13.

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You know, it was 19 years of me battling this because I it was such a grip on me.

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It was such a grip and I had such a hard time even accepting it in the beginning when it

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was like, you're an addict.

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I refused to even admit that I stayed in denial for a very long time that I was even an addict.

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You know, we say denial stands for don't even notice I am lying.

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And I didn't know.

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I mean, everybody else knew around me that I was an addict, except for me.

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I was like the last person to find out.

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I just always thought like this is like somebody that's just dirty that lives by the dumpster.

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Like this was just my perception, not somebody that was like prescribed medication that was

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taking medication that now the doctors can't give me it.

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Like I just couldn't accept it.

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And so it kept me out there even longer.

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In your early 20s, when you're partying and doing the drugs, you got pregnant, which really

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the Lord used for good in many ways.

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Can you explain?

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When I found out that I was pregnant, size 20, everything inside of me was like you,

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you have to get off of off of these pills.

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Like you have to, you can't do this anymore.

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And smoking cigarettes, I mean, all of these things I was very heavily like convicted of.

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I needed to do this.

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And so I shared it with my doctor and I let him know that, Hey, I am using, you know,

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10 oxy Aedes a day.

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And he said, if you continue that you will lose that baby.

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I mean, they just, that baby cannot withstand that type of medication.

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You can't do that.

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I look back on it now and I'm very aware, but at the time I didn't know it.

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So I went home and I, you know, cried about it because I was like, I don't know how I'm

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just going to stop taking these, you know, withdrawal is a very real thing.

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And when you're on that much, I mean, it's severe.

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I just, every day I cut everything in half every single day.

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Like I didn't just go home and just, I just stopped, but it did take me a few days.

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I actually think that it took me 10 days to get completely off of it.

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But I like went from 10 to five down to like two down to one.

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And then I was cutting the one into pieces because I was sick, but it wasn't that terrible.

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I just remember thinking like, you know, like for this baby, like I'll do this for this

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baby.

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And I often now, when I look back at it, like, I know that God did that because God was like,

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I'm going to give you this blessing and this is going to help save your life.

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You know?

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And I wish I could be the end of the story where I'm like, and then I just stopped using

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forever.

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But so I did that and I stopped in that time.

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And then I ended up almost having a miscarriage.

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And when I had went to the emergency room, they were pretty certain that I had had a

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miscarriage and it was from the actual withdrawal of the opioids.

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Like the baby just couldn't withstand all of this.

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Right?

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And so it was from the actual withdrawal.

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And so they were pretty certain.

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And then we went in and they said, you know, like, I just specifically remember like they

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came out and their faces were just very like, and they were saying, you know, we just don't

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understand to be honest with you.

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Everything inside of you is like, like, you should have lost that baby.

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We don't know what that baby is holding on by, but somehow some way you still have that

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baby and that baby is still living inside of you.

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I know that it was God.

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Right?

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I know at the time, I still didn't know that.

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I still wasn't completely certain of where, you know, everything I have now.

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But they said that they were just amazed.

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I had to go on to, you know, mind you, because I was still in college, I had to get like

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a handicap pass because they wanted me on a complete bed rest.

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And I was like, well, I can't, you know, I'm finishing up at school.

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I don't want to like fail out.

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I wasn't allowed to pick up books.

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I wasn't allowed to carry anything.

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So I had to handicap park at all of my classes.

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So all I had to do was like walk right in there and walk right back out through God's

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grace.

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You know, he, he saved that baby.

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He saved my son.

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He gave me that gift.

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And now when I look back at like, that was the miracle, you know, those doctors and stuff,

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they must not knew either that it was a miracle because they were just kept saying to me,

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we don't understand that all.

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You should have lost this baby.

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There's just no way.

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So here you had a baby, you're a sober single mom looking for forward to caring for your

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son.

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You were looking forward to moving on with your life.

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And then the unthinkable happened.

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What was it?

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The doctor, after I delivered my son, um, they prescribed me pain medication, you know,

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and I look back on it now, it's totally bizarre.

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Um, but at the time it seemed normal.

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And at the time I also think that that is what was going on in the world.

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And I also see how heavily removed society was from the opioids stuff that was starting

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to, you know, blow out of proportion.

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Um, and just uneducated.

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So the, the doctor being uneducated, me coming and saying, Hey, I'm abusing this, you know,

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pain medication now would be a red flag that, Hey, she doesn't get pain medication for anything

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because she abuses it.

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But at the time it was like, okay, well you should stop taking it, you know?

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And then also at that time it was never brought up to me into like, maybe you should attend

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a 12 step fellowship.

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Maybe you should go try to get treatment or help.

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None of that was ever, um, brought up back then.

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Um, and my son is 19.

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So this was, you know, 20 years ago, had the baby and then I was prescribed the medication.

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And so I didn't know any better and I was taking it at home just like normal.

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And my addiction just came back right from square one.

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You got to a point with this addiction that you couldn't care for your son anymore.

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And your, your parents actually raised him for multiple years.

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Yes.

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Even in those years that when you were struggling with addiction, you were in and out of rehab,

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God was still pursuing you, wasn't he?

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Share a few examples, share a few examples of how God pursued and protected and showed

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his love for you even then.

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I often like will tell people that, um, you don't have to be in a place of like, like

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this beautiful place for like, you know, God to like reach down and say like, I'm here

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and I have you covered.

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I still don't deserve it.

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But then I was in full fledged addiction and literally like working with the enemy at all

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costs, you know, like I have specific incidences where like God just literally showed up one

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particular instance I was in my car and I was driving.

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And so, um, I was actually counting out money because I was going to go buy drugs.

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I was driving with my knee because I was using my hands to count my money.

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I was missing $10.

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And so, you know, that was my focus.

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It wasn't that I'm driving.

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It was like, I'm missing this $10 worth it.

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And I'm frantically looking and, um, I look up and I had missed a bend.

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And so when I looked up, I knew that I was going to go like off road.

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So I heard up and swerved my wheel, which then put me in the other lane, which now I

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was going to hit a guy head on.

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And so I swerved back.

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And so when I swerved back, I like literally flew off the cliff.

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And in the moment, um, it, everything went completely slow motion.

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And I remember I said two things in that moment of like being airborne.

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I could see the tops of trees below me.

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And I'm just like gliding through the air.

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And I said, dear God, I wish I had my seatbelt on.

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I specifically remember like saying that.

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And it was like, like I said, in slow motion, I yell out like, dear God, I wish I had my

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seatbelt on.

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Um, and then the other thing I said was, I wonder how big this drop off is going to be

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because I'm just floating through the air.

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And so when my car hit, it hit so forceful and I didn't have on my seatbelt, my head

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went through the windshield and it knocked me completely unconscious.

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When I came to, I was at the bottom of the cliff and, um, I was pinned in between like

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trees and all of the airbags in my car had came out and all of the windows and windshield,

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everything was smashed.

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And when I woke up, I actually thought that my car was on fire because, um, when airbags

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come out, it looks smoky because there's this powder in them.

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Um, and I, like I said, I thought the car was on fire.

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And so I panicked and I went to open up my door and I couldn't get out because I was

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pinned in there.

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I laid there on the ground.

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I was like, you know, in and out of consciousness.

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And I heard this man yelling and he's yelling and I could see him coming over the cliff.

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Every time I'm like in and out, he's getting closer to me and closer to me as he's running

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down this cliff that I came down and he yells out, he's like, you know, is anybody dead?

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And I said, no, it's just me.

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And then the next thing, the very next thing he said, he said, do you believe in angels?

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And I said, yeah.

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And he said, good, good.

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There was an angel on your shoulder that steered your car through all of the trees when you

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hit the ground.

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And I looked back and I could see that my car had like zigzagged because it's like a

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wooden like forested area.

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So I could see where my car had zigzagged through all of these trees to not hit these

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trees head on.

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You know, at the time I just said, okay, now he's down there with me.

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I say to him, sir, can you find me my cigarettes?

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And he's like, are you serious?

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And I said, yeah.

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I said, you see that cliff I just came over, I'm dead serious.

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And he goes, okay, well, I don't smoke.

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But when I find them, I might need one.

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I said, you can have the whole pack.

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Just let me get one.

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And he gave it to me.

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He found them.

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And then and then he said something about the money because money was everywhere, right?

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Because I was counting that money.

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And I was holding it when I went off that cliff and it had a jack grip on it, that money.

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I said, oh, yeah, I need that money.

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And he gave it to me, right?

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And I had the money.

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So I have my cigarette, my money.

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The next thing when I'm waking up again, here come the fire trucks and the firemen and they're

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trying to come over the cliff and they have this basket thing that they're trying to strap

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me to.

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And, you know, it's a lot of commotion.

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And I asked them, I said, you know, where's the man that was down here?

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And they're like, what man?

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And I'm like, the man that came down here.

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And, you know, he talked to me and he called me down.

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And they're just like, there's no man.

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And I'm like, oh, no, he was down here, gave me my cigarettes, my money.

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We talked and they were like, man, nobody can get down here to you.

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Like absolutely nobody.

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And I remember telling my dad when I was in the hospital, because, you know, my parents

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come to the hospital and I told him that story.

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And you know, he was just like, that's God.

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Like that's natural.

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And I remember the angel that came because he said, what did he look like?

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And I said, I have no idea.

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I don't know.

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Now that you asked me.

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My dad would clarify things for me and says that because I wouldn't have known, I would

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have just continued to say like there was a man and they just didn't see him.

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But my dad was very, that was your angel.

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Like he came to you, like he, you know, and he told you that somebody, like an angel steered

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your car.

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Like, and he was checking to make sure you believed in angels before he came down to

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talk to you.

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That's one incident.

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And that's when I was literally living an entire life of complete disaster, you know?

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And God still was like, I'm still going to save that one.

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I'm still going to give her grace and mercy.

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And I literally, you know, when people would say they don't deserve it, like I still didn't

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deserve in those times, especially.

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So God was pursuing you.

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I'm sure your father was praying for the Lord to protect you and watch over you during that

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time.

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And that's an amazing story.

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And as you said, I'm sure you've got more.

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And I always will tell people that to like encourage people, like keep praying, keep

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praying for your family members because you know, I always say like God didn't even answer

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my prayer because I wasn't praying for myself.

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I didn't even want it anymore.

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I just wanted to die.

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And that's where I was at, at the end of the road.

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Like I wanted to die.

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God was answering my dad's prayer.

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My dad was the one that was praying for me.

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I wasn't even praying for myself.

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I didn't even want it.

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I didn't want no parts of it.

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My dad was faithful and praying that.

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Always tell people that like, you know, if you're praying for family members, especially

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ones in addiction, just keep praying.

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Yeah.

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So, Alison, what brought you to the point of surrendering your life to Jesus?

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And how did you finally escape that terrible cycle of addiction?

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I had checked into rehab.

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I have been to jail.

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There was a lot and it was just a vicious cycle for years.

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I didn't go and check in to rehab one time and then quit using.

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I it was just a vicious cycle.

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The last time that I checked in as a patient was on November 29th of 2014.

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That was the day that I checked in.

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On November 30th of 2014 is my clean day because I checked in on drugs and I woke up with none.

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While I was in there, I had phoned home to my parents' house.

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And again, they were raising my son at the time.

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He was 10 years old.

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I called him.

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My brother had answered the phone and he was telling me that my dad, they had just found

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cancer and he needed to have surgery and all of these things.

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I was immediately filled up with fear.

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I remember thinking, who was going to take care of my son?

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It wasn't about me.

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It was about my son again.

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A lot of things came back to my son and also to something that God worked that I often

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am like, wow, my son got baptized on November 30th of 2014.

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And that's my clean day.

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And so I often look at that.

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I cried about it selfishly because I couldn't be there.

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But I am also always like, I wouldn't have been a part of it anyway, because I was incapable

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of taking care of myself or a kid or functioning at this time.

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Again, so my dad took my son and I missed that.

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But there's that connection that God always lines things up in my life with my son.

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I found out my dad had cancer.

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I'm crying because I'm thinking who's going to take care of my kid now.

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And I went up in my room in rehab.

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I literally just hit the floor on my knees.

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I remember it so specifically and it was that December 3rd of 2014.

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And I just cried out like, God, if you're so real and you're just so great, and you're

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just so wonderful, then you're going to have to save me and you're going to have to do

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something with me because I can't do it.

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I don't know what I'm supposed to do, but if you can do something with me, then here

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I am.

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I'm telling you and I'm giving you permission because I can't do this any longer.

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And I get so emotional because he really listened and he really was like, okay, this is what

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I needed from you.

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This is what I've been waiting for, for you to invite me in.

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It wasn't this beautiful thing.

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I was crying and I was yelling and I was on the floor and I meant everything that came

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out of my mouth.

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And I was just like, God, if you can use me, then do it.

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This is the time I need help.

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And I don't know you like that, but everybody says that you can do it.

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And so I'm giving you permission to just do it.

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Do it with me.

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When I tell you, like, and we talk about like God is immediate, he is so immediate because

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like he started a shift in me that happened so quickly.

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Things were happening.

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He was in control of it.

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And I didn't even really have a say in that.

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You know, like I always say that God doesn't need my permission, but he would like my cooperation.

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And so once I was like in tune and saying like, I'll do whatever and he was like, okay,

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then we're going to have you do whatever.

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He just started like a chain of events in my life that, you know, got me to where I'm

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at now.

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I, in that time that I was there in the rehab, specifically like God spoke.

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And so I hear things and have heard things from God on a very auditory level for a long

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time.

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Even when I was in my active addiction, he had told me to go down to our aftercare office

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and let them know that I will do whatever you guys want.

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When I went down there, I specifically remember saying it, but not knowing why I said it and

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not knowing like why I was down there saying it because it was like he put it in motion

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inside of me and I just did it.

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So the Lord brought some people alongside of you to help you grow in your faith and

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your whole life started changing for the better.

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God provided you a job, a faith community that surrounded you, good friends, hope for

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the future.

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Share some of those things that God restored in your life.

447
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,280
I told them and they were shocked because they knew me so well in there that they knew

448
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,320
that I didn't usually follow up and do what I was supposed to.

449
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,880
I had a track record for that.

450
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,400
And so they were like, okay, you're sure?

451
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,400
And I'm like, yeah.

452
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600
And they were like, okay, we're going to send you immediately.

453
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Thank God that the woman who ran the aftercare, she was a believer and she loved the Lord

454
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,520
and she would tell you about Jesus in her own way.

455
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,600
And so she was like, we're going to send you to a halfway house.

456
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840
And I was like, I don't want to go to a halfway house.

457
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,520
And she was like, we're going to go and something and we said, okay.

458
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
And I like walked out and I remember being like, why did I do that?

459
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240
I don't want to go to a halfway house.

460
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,200
And it was like, I was like two different people, but the Lord was telling me to do

461
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,360
something and I was doing it.

462
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,160
And then I would be like, why did I do that?

463
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,760
But I told him to use me and he just was like doing it.

464
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Right.

465
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,920
And I said, she went and she bought me this Jesus Calling book because I didn't have money

466
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,400
like when I was in rehab and she bought it for me and she said, like, I want you to have

467
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,400
this.

468
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,320
And I thought it was like so precious that like she came in this daily devotional book

469
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,960
and it was about Jesus.

470
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:53,840
And so every day I read that and that started my like actual relationship with the Lord.

471
00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:02,600
It started me like where I needed to be and that daily devotional book every day spoke

472
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:09,960
directly to me where I know that God told her to get me that book and her obedience,

473
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,800
she got it for me.

474
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,680
You know, she was very like, we're not allowed to give gifts here, but I just, I have to

475
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480
give you this book, you know, and I'm like, okay.

476
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,000
And so, but I am often like her obedience to give me that book.

477
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:30,120
She, she knows because I still talk to her to this day, we're still talking, but she

478
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:35,320
knows that like that book saved me because I would be going through something and I would

479
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,240
wake up and I'd be in something and I would read that book and it was like the Lord was

480
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,360
sitting on my bed saying stuff to me directly, exactly what I was going through, exactly

481
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,800
what I needed to hear.

482
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,320
And I felt like, okay, well, he's saying I have to stay and I have to do this.

483
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,800
And you know, he's saying he hears me and he knows this thing and it was everything

484
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,800
every day.

485
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,000
It was so on point that like it kept me grounded and put me in position and kept me pursuing

486
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200
the one morning in the halfway house.

487
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:09,040
When I got up, God said very specifically to me, I'm going to send them people for you

488
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,760
and you need to go with them, you know, and I'm very, who, what people, what would they

489
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,760
look like?

490
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,760
How am I going to know it's them?

491
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Like what day will they be here?

492
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,760
What time?

493
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,760
You know, and he doesn't answer that.

494
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,040
And so I'm like, hello?

495
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
And I get no response and I'm like, okay.

496
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,040
So a couple of days later, I think it was these ladies came from church.

497
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,440
As soon as they walked in the door, I just knew like, like it was like, these are the

498
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,520
ones and I said, okay.

499
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,320
And I didn't even know what they were doing there.

500
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,800
So lo and behold, they came and they did a Bible study and then they invited us all to

501
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,000
go to church.

502
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,720
And so I took the invite because I knew that that's where God wanted me to go with, with

503
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,720
them.

504
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
They picked me up for Bible study every Sunday.

505
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,240
They took me to church every single Sunday and those women, and I still talk to them

506
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,560
today too.

507
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,520
They showed me the love of Jesus.

508
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Like they didn't judge me.

509
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,480
They weren't like, well, you know, you don't really have nice clothes that you can't really

510
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,720
come with us.

511
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,880
Or, you know, you're, you're just so wrapped around the edges.

512
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,140
You know, we're not, we don't want to bring you to church.

513
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:23,840
They just really showed me like the love of Jesus at a time when I needed that more than

514
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:30,560
anything and they just, they poured into me and they, but, and they wanted to, you know,

515
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,080
it wasn't like, Oh, like they wanted to, and they would get excited with me.

516
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,640
And I would share good news with them and they were like, get very excited for things

517
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,640
with me.

518
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,360
Like they knew where they were going and they came in and they were the lights and they

519
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760
were the love and they showed it.

520
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:56,440
And in that situation with that church, the owner of the one car dealership came in and

521
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,200
I'm like, I know him.

522
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,840
Like I've seen him on commercials and the one that he says, that's my son-in-law.

523
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840
And I'm like, what?

524
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,880
I made a job with him.

525
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,280
And so I got with him and he gave me a job.

526
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:15,440
And I started to just learn that like, you know, like new routines and new habits and

527
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,840
new patterns for my life.

528
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Like I started waking up and praying because I got with some women that told me every morning,

529
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,920
you need to wake up and you need to pray.

530
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,920
And I would say, well, what am I going to say?

531
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Like, what am I praying?

532
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,880
And they'd say like, how about if you just start small, you know, so I always tell people,

533
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,680
if you don't know how to pray, just, you could say anything you want, but just start small,

534
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,680
you know?

535
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,520
And then in the morning was like, morning God, thanks for waking me up.

536
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Amen.

537
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440
You know, that was literally, I didn't know what else to say or do.

538
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,960
Oh, please keep me clean today.

539
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,440
I always say that.

540
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,520
And I always encourage people that, but like, if you don't know the words, it's okay.

541
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Like if you know your heart, just get down on your knees and say what comes out and it

542
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800
could be ugly and it can be, it can be not sound right.

543
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,720
And it could be this short, but it doesn't matter.

544
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Just do it.

545
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,480
And it started a routine and a habit in my life of waking up, praying, going to bed,

546
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,480
praying.

547
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Then I was told like pray in between, you know, and then I was like, okay.

548
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,240
And so it just started little habits in my life of getting in touch with the Lord and

549
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,920
starting to develop a relationship with him and going to church.

550
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,760
You know, I got back in the routine of like, we go to church and we go to Bible study.

551
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,080
And when they have a women's conference and show up to it, then women, they would buy

552
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,720
tickets to the women's conference.

553
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,680
And for me, like they were like, I didn't know at the time, like they were sowing their

554
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
seed, but I didn't know that.

555
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Like I was like, they bought a ticket for me.

556
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,320
Like they spent, you know, 80 bucks on a ticket for me to go somewhere.

557
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,280
Like I just couldn't believe somebody would do that.

558
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,680
I met the owner of the car dealership and I got a job there.

559
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,680
And I worked my way up in that company because I started at the very bottom, but like, you

560
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,280
know, God was faithful and God put me in positions to do things.

561
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,080
And even there, I was always able to share my faith because everybody knew one thing

562
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,680
that God provided was, you know, you're not going to hide your story because this is a

563
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,440
testimony that I've given you to like go back and get people out of the same fire that you

564
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,440
walked through.

565
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,040
So you're not going to ever have to hide it because even at that job and even with all

566
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:31,000
of my promotions and at the end, I was the general sales manager running an entire dealership.

567
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Everybody knew my story.

568
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,800
And then I would be in there with praise and worship music on and the younger kids that

569
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,080
we'd hire, they knew like go to Ali if you have a problem because, you know, she'll get

570
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,040
you with some type of scripture or verse or she'll pray with you.

571
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,000
And they allowed me to do it because they knew that's who I was.

572
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,920
They knew whenever I got there, this is who I am and this is what I'm doing.

573
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,080
A few years later after you're working, your life kind of settled, you're in your new routine

574
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,560
and you started reaching out to others to help them out of the addiction.

575
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,920
And then you met your husband, which is a story all into itself.

576
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Tell us about that.

577
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,680
I started praying my, you know, God, I really, I want to be a wife and I want to have a family.

578
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:21,560
And I got with some of the women that, you know, were in my circle and I was told like,

579
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,200
we'll start acting like a wife and start, you know, getting more time in with the Lord.

580
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:32,160
And you know, when he says you're ready, he'll give it to you.

581
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,720
I had like specific things like God told me to like, okay, we'll make a list of the things

582
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,240
that you're looking for in a husband.

583
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,240
Right.

584
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,240
And I had this extensive list of things.

585
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,320
I would pray into it.

586
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:50,200
And God said to me very clearly, and I still have a screenshot of the text because I texted

587
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:56,960
my friend and because I said, God said that he is going to give me my husband in 2019.

588
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,540
And she said, okay, you know, and I knew that God was going to give me my husband in 2019.

589
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:07,080
And so, you know, January 1st, 2019, I got already because I knew I was going to meet

590
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,280
my husband and I didn't.

591
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,120
And I was like, God, you know what you said, you know, and it was like, yeah, I didn't

592
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,280
tell you January 1st.

593
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480
I gave you like a year.

594
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,880
And so I learned like some patience and stuff.

595
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,400
And I learned it like I had to keep praying and pressing in and I had to stay connected

596
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
with God and I couldn't get distracted.

597
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,200
And so I did meet my husband until June of 2019.

598
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:40,320
But whenever when I did meet him, we I actually was going to an NA meeting with my friend.

599
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840
He was speaking there.

600
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,880
I typically don't go to that meeting.

601
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,200
I was at the gym working out and he had called me and he needed a support group member to

602
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000
come with him.

603
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,640
So I said, Oh, you know, I guess I'll go like in my gym clothes, I look a mess, but whatever

604
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,200
out you so I'll come so you could share your experience, strength and hope.

605
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,200
So I go with him to this meeting.

606
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,520
And it was actually over the state line.

607
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,880
So in Ohio, we live in Pennsylvania, I see this guy, and I immediately know this is my

608
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,880
husband.

609
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,560
I do I know everything in me.

610
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,160
I know this is my husband.

611
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,160
He offers that he's eating these little candies and he offers to like throw me one.

612
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,440
And I said no, because I don't eat sugar.

613
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
And so he throws it to me anyway.

614
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,960
And I like moved and it hit the wall and it, you know, broke and everybody turned around

615
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,800
and looked and we were like, and so after I was talking to him, you know, he had just

616
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,800
gotten out of prison.

617
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,080
He had nine months clean and he was in a facility.

618
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,840
That's like a step between prison and actually releasing from prison.

619
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,840
So you have some freedoms, but you're basically locked up.

620
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,400
He asked for my number and whatever.

621
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,080
And he asked if we could go on a date.

622
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,160
And I said, well, what church do you go to?

623
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,440
And he's like, why don't go to church because I just got out of prison.

624
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,680
And I said, well, I'll pick you up on Sunday to go to church.

625
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,680
And you can come to my church.

626
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,360
Well, he couldn't come to my church because he couldn't cross the state line and my church

627
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,640
is in Pennsylvania.

628
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,260
So I said, I'll, I'll help you find a church over here in Ohio.

629
00:37:12,260 --> 00:37:16,720
And so that's how we started dating and pick them up on Sundays and we would go to different

630
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:17,720
churches.

631
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,880
When I left there, I told my friends, that's my husband.

632
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,400
And they said, Ali, that is not your husband.

633
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,880
That man was just in prison.

634
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,680
And I was like, no, no, you don't understand.

635
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120
I'm certain that's my husband.

636
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,320
And when he left there, he was telling his friends, that's my wife.

637
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,320
You know, that's, that's my wife.

638
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,800
I'm going to marry her.

639
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,680
I already know it.

640
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,960
You know, I made a deal with God.

641
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960
He could say, it's so funny when he tells it.

642
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,080
I made a deal with God that I'd either meet my wife in church or in a gym.

643
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,440
I met her in the church basement in her gym clothes and she wants to go on a date to church.

644
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,560
Like, he was like, you know, that's my wife.

645
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,320
He always say, I don't know if God agreed with me or what, but that was the agreement

646
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,320
I made.

647
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,360
Two weeks after we met, he did go get my name tattooed on his ring finger.

648
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,360
We met in June.

649
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,740
We were engaged in August and we got married in December of 2019.

650
00:38:12,740 --> 00:38:18,600
And I always say that God told me I would have my husband in 2019 and I walked out of

651
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,600
2019 with my husband.

652
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,600
I didn't get a boyfriend.

653
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,600
I didn't get a fiance.

654
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,600
I got a husband.

655
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,600
That's what God told me.

656
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,600
It was going to, it was.

657
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Yeah.

658
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,820
And just clarifying a couple of things.

659
00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:30,540
He had gotten saved in prison.

660
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:33,500
He was a believer and he was pursuing the Lord.

661
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:38,320
You were going to a Narcotics Anonymous meeting, which is where you met him in case people

662
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,800
don't know what NA is.

663
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,000
So you didn't just pick up, you know, the first guy out of prison you met.

664
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
He was a believer pursuing the Lord.

665
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:53,920
He had been five years of active addiction and then was in prison for the last nine months

666
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,120
right before he had actually went to prison in jail though.

667
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,720
He had given his life to the Lord.

668
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:09,720
So and a very similar experience to mine, just on your knees, crying out to the Lord

669
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:14,600
and he gave his life to the Lord and then was in an active pursuit as well.

670
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,520
So we both met each other at, you know, when we say God's timing, if I would have met him

671
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,880
at a different time, it wouldn't have worked out.

672
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,800
You know, if I would have been pursuing Jesus and he wasn't, or we would have met in an

673
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,640
active addiction, none of it would be what it is, but it's always God's timing.

674
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,240
So you got married and things really had never been better in your life.

675
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,760
You were experiencing the blessing of God.

676
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,400
And so just share a little bit about those first few years of marriage and how God was

677
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,040
really building you both up and preparing you for what he had in store for you.

678
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:59,400
We started a ministry, even now a ministry, and we were traveling and it was really, really

679
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,400
good.

680
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120
We were traveling around on the weekend.

681
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,040
We were sharing, you know, sharing the gospel.

682
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,120
We were getting to see things outside of, because I always had said, you know, I'd like

683
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,200
to like travel because I've never really been anywhere because I was on drugs for 19 years

684
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,200
of my life.

685
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,200
I didn't go nowhere.

686
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,200
It was fun.

687
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,920
And also at the same time, I had switched churches.

688
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,000
So what happened was during the time when I was helping Jed find a church, we walked

689
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
into what became our home church.

690
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:40,120
We walked in, we ended up, I, we walked out and I was sobbing, crying.

691
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,640
And Jeff is like, what?

692
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,640
You didn't like it there?

693
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,920
And I was like, no, I loved it.

694
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
And I said, this is my home.

695
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,200
And he was like, oh, wow.

696
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
He's like, this is my home.

697
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,800
Like, this is mine too.

698
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,960
Like I just, like, we just knew we were called to be in that church.

699
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:04,160
And I cried because those ladies that brought me to church, that was my church family and

700
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,840
I was still going with them and I wasn't looking for a church and I didn't, you know, I wasn't

701
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,840
looking for a church.

702
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,040
I was trying to help him find a church.

703
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,680
But you know, God told me to move and so, like shift.

704
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
And so I did and great things happened.

705
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,680
I mean, my husband got on staff there.

706
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:30,160
So he first got as a licensed minister, so he did that first.

707
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:37,040
And then he got on staff there and was the on staff evangelist and the outreach director.

708
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,880
And we just like, we started a recovery ministry there.

709
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:52,960
And when you've just been through literally like you've like walked through just the darkness

710
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,320
and you can like bring other people out of that.

711
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,200
It's and like into like God's love.

712
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680
It's just like the most amazing thing.

713
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,720
And that's like what we wanted to do.

714
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:07,600
So we started the recovery ministry.

715
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,280
We've seen so many salvation, baptism.

716
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200
I mean, it was just amazing.

717
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:18,360
And then getting to travel and go to different churches and just preach and pray with people,

718
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,320
you know, has all been so amazing.

719
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,520
And we were well prepared to just stay doing that.

720
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,400
We were totally fine.

721
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,880
I was still working.

722
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,280
So I was still the general sales manager.

723
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,640
They were allowing me to take the time off during the weekends that we needed to travel

724
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,400
and stuff.

725
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:51,160
We had our family right there close by that, you know, we couldn't always bring our son,

726
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,440
our little son.

727
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,440
He's three now.

728
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,320
He just turned three, but we couldn't always bring him.

729
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,360
But we have family that would keep him for us.

730
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,360
We were traveling.

731
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,360
It was fun.

732
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,360
It was exciting.

733
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,320
And so, yeah, I was like, then we moved into this house that was our dream home and what

734
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,320
we thought would be our forever home.

735
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,320
My brother's twin brother bought the house next door to us.

736
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,160
So they live literally next door to us.

737
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
We were excited.

738
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,760
And you also were being really discipled in your faith so that you could minister to others,

739
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,760
weren't you?

740
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,760
Yeah.

741
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:33,400
And we oftentimes like what we didn't know, you know, like when God told me that like

742
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,040
to move churches, because like, you know, my husband and I need to be at the same church,

743
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,040
right?

744
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,640
This is like for us.

745
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,400
We wanted to like be together, worship together and chase the Lord together.

746
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:54,040
And so we moved churches and we'd pastor there really, really poured into him.

747
00:43:54,040 --> 00:44:00,960
And like, and he allowed us to do things because he saw things in us that we didn't even know

748
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,960
was there.

749
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,440
You know, like, and when he allowed us to do that recovery ministry, like he was like,

750
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,840
okay, you guys want to start a recovery ministry?

751
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
And we were like, okay.

752
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960
And he was like, all right, so you're going to start on this day.

753
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,960
And we're like, start what?

754
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,600
You know, we were like, what do you say?

755
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,160
And he was one of those like, just do it.

756
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Let's just go.

757
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,160
You just got to take off.

758
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,040
You just got to, you know, like, let's you just got to step in.

759
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
You just got to do it.

760
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:32,760
And so we were just blessed that we had that all around us from everybody really pouring

761
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,680
into us and pressing us to do more and pursuing us to do it.

762
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,560
So it seemed like you were in really your sweet spot, but the story doesn't end there.

763
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,520
God had something more for you, and I'm sure he still does, but tell us the process of

764
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,080
your recent transition and what he's doing with you now.

765
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:59,160
God had given me a clear that I needed to step down from my position at my job.

766
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,800
And I was like, well, how will we pay our bills?

767
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,320
How will we do this?

768
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,440
And I told my husband and my husband is very, okay, well, if God said that, you know, the

769
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,400
money needs to do that.

770
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,680
And so that was in June that he had spoke that to me.

771
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:28,920
I battled with it until August, and it was very heavy on me because it wasn't like I

772
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,360
just heard him say and then he just left it alone.

773
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,200
It was like he said it and I knew it and I was convicted of it.

774
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,480
But my own fear wouldn't let me do it.

775
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,400
Every day I was waking up almost like chained down because I knew that I wasn't walking

776
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,560
in what God said to do.

777
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:52,280
I knew it, but my own flesh fear of, you know, how will we pay this was outweighing what

778
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,280
God told me to do.

779
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,480
At my breaking point, I in August, I stepped down from the position.

780
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,800
I went down to just working three days instead of doing the 50 hours.

781
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:08,960
And our ministry literally took off.

782
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,720
And so I was needed to go with my husband because instead of just going on Saturday

783
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:20,680
and Sunday, it was, you know, a Tuesday thing and a Thursday and a Friday and a Saturday

784
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,680
and a Sunday.

785
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,800
We were getting booked for full weekends and we were getting booked during the week.

786
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,960
Now we're traveling and doing all these things, which was so exciting because I love traveling

787
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,800
and getting to see stuff.

788
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:41,120
And so we had a beautiful home that was what I believed to be at the time my forever home.

789
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,120
You know, my husband and I always said like, we're always going to have like our home and

790
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,840
we're going to raise the family there because we traveled a lot when we were kids and we

791
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,520
didn't want to do that with our kids.

792
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,680
We wanted to have like stability.

793
00:46:54,680 --> 00:47:01,120
We got this phone call and offered to come here to Virginia and Chesapeake, take over

794
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,120
one of the campuses and be the campus pastor.

795
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,800
And he said, okay, thank you.

796
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,640
And he said that he knew that I was going to say absolutely not.

797
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,800
And so when he called me, I had, since the Lord had already told me that we should be

798
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,560
praying for where he wanted us to plan our feet.

799
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,000
God spoke that very clearly to me, I had told my husband that a couple of weeks before we

800
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
had that phone call.

801
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,760
And when he called me, I immediately was like, okay, let's sell the house.

802
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,760
I'll get the house up.

803
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,760
I'll call the realtor.

804
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,760
We need to start packing.

805
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,240
We need to find somewhere to go over there.

806
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:39,880
And he was like, hey, where's my wife?

807
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,680
And I said, you know, this is like the move, right?

808
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,960
That God's talking about.

809
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,880
And then the technical me came out and was like, or is this the right move?

810
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Wait, this might be why God told us this.

811
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,680
We need to pray about it.

812
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,160
And it was hard for us.

813
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,160
And we prayed and we, we went back and forth.

814
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,800
And what we were told by one of our mentors, she said, you need to follow God's peace.

815
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,920
And we held that very close to us.

816
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,840
She said, you go with the peace of God.

817
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Everything about the move was so easy.

818
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,240
When I was going to a women's conference a couple of weeks before we were coming down

819
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,300
to actually check out the church.

820
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:22,520
So we're at the women's conference and there was a song on and God spoke very clearly to

821
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000
me that we were going to come to Virginia.

822
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:31,360
But he also said, Holy Spirit said, you know, I will tell your husband, meaning like, this

823
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,120
isn't for you to tell him like I will tell him.

824
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,920
So, and I always write everything down when I hear it.

825
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,560
And so I went down to the altar and I was just really, I was just crying at the altar

826
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,720
because you know, the decision had been made at that point.

827
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:49,400
And I also knew that Holy Spirit was going to let my husband know.

828
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,760
And so we were going to be in agreement.

829
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,600
It just felt like a like a relief.

830
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,400
But also I was like, so sad that we were going to leave our family and leave everything that

831
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,680
we knew and everything that we were comfortable in.

832
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:08,360
And when I came walking back, my friend Cindy was just standing at my seat.

833
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:14,400
And she said, I got up to tell you that Holy Spirit told me that I have to let you guys

834
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,560
go that you guys are going.

835
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,280
And I started crying because I said, well, Holy Spirit told you at the exact time that

836
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,720
Holy Spirit told me because we both stood up simultaneously at the exact same time.

837
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,240
And I stood up when I heard it and she stood up when she heard it.

838
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:39,360
And so it was like another confirmation that I knew that we were coming to Virginia Beach.

839
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,560
And then when we did come, when we did get into church, Holy Spirit definitely told us

840
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,560
welcome home.

841
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:51,320
And that's when it was confirmed to my husband because he started a little cry and he came

842
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600
over to me and he's like, baby, we're home.

843
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,240
And I said, yeah, I already knew.

844
00:49:55,240 --> 00:50:00,720
And I showed him in my notes where I had already written down what happened at the women's

845
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,840
conference for even more confirmation.

846
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,080
So and now we're here, girl.

847
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,080
Yeah.

848
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,440
So Allison, now you're here.

849
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,020
We're still listening to the Holy Spirit.

850
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:12,400
What is he saying to you personally in this season?

851
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:19,760
So right now I am in a season of bold obedience.

852
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:31,280
I had been trying to figure out what my word and stuff was and what God wanted me to do.

853
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:38,160
And I made a post actually maybe about a week and a half ago when I when the Lord really

854
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,440
spoke it to me that, you know, boldly means to take risk.

855
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,600
So taking risk and obedience, confidently walking in obedience, remaining courageous

856
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:53,080
when you walk in obedience and have a strong obedience that others can actually see that's

857
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,200
being bold.

858
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,740
And then obedience is hearing God's word and acting accordingly.

859
00:50:57,740 --> 00:51:02,800
And so I put it all together and I had acting immediately when it is spoken.

860
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,040
When I feel the shift, I comply no matter what it looks like or what it feels like to

861
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,040
me.

862
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,360
I'm a doer of the Lord's work and call and others will know Jesus in me.

863
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Well, Allison, as we close, would you share about a woman of the Bible whose story has

864
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,160
inspired or encouraged or taught you something?

865
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:28,720
I always will go back to in Mark five when we talk about the sick woman and how it'll

866
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,280
say she had the issue of bleeding for 12 years.

867
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,600
I relate because I say, you know, I had issues.

868
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,200
It was longer than 12 years.

869
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:45,040
Mine was 19, but she had, she was bleeding for 12 years and they couldn't find a cure

870
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,360
and the doctors, you know, there was just nothing.

871
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,840
And Jesus is the ultimate healer.

872
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,720
And that is like literally me, right?

873
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:59,640
So after 19 years and I couldn't stop using drugs and there was just no cure.

874
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,280
The only thing like I always just had inside of me, this void and the only thing that fit

875
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,800
perfectly into the void was Jesus.

876
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,760
I tried to stuff things from the world and try to put all these things in there and I

877
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,360
just kept making the whole bigger and just making the whole bigger.

878
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,400
And then finally realizing that Jesus is the only thing that's going to fit in the whole.

879
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,400
That's the only thing.

880
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,280
And that's the only thing that's going to fix it.

881
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,000
And then it talks about how she knew she had to get there and she, if she could just touch

882
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,800
his clothes, she just believed that with everything in her that like, if I just get there and

883
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:41,800
touch this person, that is just like, I want to have that faith at all times.

884
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Like I just want to walk in that at all times.

885
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,200
I'm always reminded myself.

886
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,560
Remember she was an outcast, right?

887
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,880
I was an outcast.

888
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,880
Nobody wanted me.

889
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,320
Nobody wanted nothing to do with me.

890
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,640
I didn't even want nothing to do with myself anymore.

891
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
I was sick and tired of myself.

892
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,760
And she, she was an outcast and she went anyway.

893
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,600
And then, you know, and he was on his way to do something else.

894
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:10,200
And when she touched him and he stopped and, you know, she, this, she had a faith that

895
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,240
just stopped him dead in his tracks.

896
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:18,360
And so I say that all the time to my husband, like, I want to have a faith that stopped

897
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Jesus in his track.

898
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,560
And then, you know, the beautiful part of the story, which is my story is, you know,

899
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,720
she went from this outcast and he went from this man that just performs miracles.

900
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,720
Right.

901
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:37,160
And I'm talking about Jesus, everybody else, you know, and I just didn't know him on my

902
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,440
own personal level.

903
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:45,640
And he became her father and she went from outcast and she went from being called a woman

904
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,560
in the Bible to being called daughter.

905
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,400
Like he called her daughter and it was immediate.

906
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,840
Like his love is just immediate.

907
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,840
He is immediate.

908
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,920
He healed her immediately.

909
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It took me crying out like an honest prayer to God and opening my heart and having a faith

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that this is the, this is it.

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You know, I don't have another chance in me for him to be an immediate and say, okay,

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it's done.

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You're healed right now.

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I've been stopped.

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Here I am.

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I'm working through you.

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I'm going to give it all to you.

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And that's like my fate, like, cause that's me.

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Like I'm her, like I, I'm the woman with the, with the issue with, you know, the, the 12

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years of just, and no, there's no help and there's nobody that can help me anymore.

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And, and he is like, that's the answer.

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It's Jesus.

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You just got to get to him.

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You just got to get with them.

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You just have to feel.

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And then now I'm his daughter.

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You know, I went from the homeless drug addict to daughter to the king in an instant.

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Amen.

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Well, friends, the Lord spoke to the prophet Jeremiah in chapter one, verse four and NLT

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saying, I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb, before you were born,

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I set you apart and I appointed you as my prophet to the nations.

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And in verses seven and eight, he says, don't say I'm too young for you must go wherever

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I send you and say whatever I tell you and don't be afraid of the people for I will be

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with you and will protect you.

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I the Lord have spoken.

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God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

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He says a similar thing to each of us and to Allison.

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He knew us before we were born.

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He set each of us apart and appointed us for a purpose.

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He will empower and protect you as you fulfill that purpose.

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So don't try to use excuses about why you can't do it.

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Romans eight eleven reveals that the same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells

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in us.

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If you believe in Jesus as Lord and have committed your life to him, what more could we possibly

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need?

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Allison shared a few minutes ago about God calling her to bold obedience, immediate obedience,

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and it's the same call he has for each of us.

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I understand the word obedience has a negative connotation in many of our minds, but in my

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journey with God, I have discovered that obedience is simply walking in step with him, doing

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what we see him doing when he's doing it.

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And that, my friend, is not a burden.

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It's a delight to walk in step with our living father.

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Allison, would you take a moment and pray for our listeners?

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Absolutely.

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Father, God, we just want to come to you in this moment, Lord, and we would just ask right

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now that the people that are joining in more that you would sort of start to speak things

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to them more that they would just hear from you, that they would just hear your words,

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Lord, and that they would ask immediately upon what it is that you want them to do,

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Lord, that their prayers would be touching heaven, that your warmth, that your touch

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would wrap your arms around somebody who's in need of your comfort and your love, Jesus,

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that they would just feel it from you right now, that you would just continue to speak

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things to them, Lord, and just give them the courage to carry out your will.

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We just want to ask that you continue to guide and protect, Lord, that you would just break

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off generational curses, Lord, that anybody who's listening in right now that's saying

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that, I don't know if my prayer is being heard, that you would just let them know that their

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prayer is being heard, Lord, that you are working it out, that you work all things in

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your favor for your glory, Lord, that they will see it.

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They might not see it right now, Jesus, but they will see it.

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And we would just ask that you would just continue to guide each and every one of us

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on our walk with you, Lord.

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I just want to thank you for these moments to be able to press in deeper with you, God.

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And we would just ask that you would just care for each and every one of us.

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In Jesus' name we pray, amen.

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You know, friends, there are orphans as well as widows all over the world who need to experience

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the tangible expression of God's love right now.

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And together we are building an indoor bathroom and shower for a girl's home in rural Kenya.

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The foundation has been laid and the building has begun, so please pray that the construction

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will be done expertly with no delays.

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And if you haven't done so yet, would you consider joining us with a special gift to

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help widows and orphans through our fund?

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Just go to hergodstory.org and click on the Widow and Orphan tab at the top of the page.

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Thank you for tuning in.

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In our show notes at hergodstory.org you'll find scriptures and other information we talked

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about.

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And remember, I'd love to hear from you, so please email me at hergodstory at somebodycares.org.

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If you'd like a free six-week devotional on Women of the Bible, you can download that

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at hergodstory.org or purchase a 12-week devotional that we'll send you for just $12.

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Knowing all the proceeds, go to our Widow and Orphan Fund.

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We'd love to pray for you on our 24-7 prayer and text line, so give us a call or text anytime

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at 855-459-CARE or email us at prayer at somebodycares.org.

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And now, dear friends, I leave you with a blessing adapted from 1 Chronicles 22 verses

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11 through 13.

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May the Lord be with you and give you success as you follow His leading.

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And may the Lord give you wisdom and understanding that you may obey all His precepts and commands.

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For you will be successful if you carefully follow them.

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Be strong and courageous.

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Do not be afraid or lose heart.

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May the Lord be with you wherever you go.

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