Oct. 28, 2024

The Spirit Realm Is Real, True Stories

The Spirit Realm Is Real, True Stories

The spiritual realm is real—angels, demons, heaven, and hell all exist beyond what we can perceive with our natural senses. God operates in this supernatural realm, and it's natural for us to be curious about it. In fact, God invites us to seek Him and explore these mysteries, but with a clear focus on Him alone. The Bible provides specific guidance on engaging with the supernatural, warning that ignoring His Word can leave us vulnerable to the enemy—Satan, who seeks to kill, steal, and destroy. Join host Jodie Chiricosta as she explores God’s instructions on the supernatural and shares remarkable stories of people who have experienced supernatural encounters.

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Key Thoughts and Scriptures:

 

Deuteronomy 18:9-13 NLT “When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs of the nations living there. For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling, or use sorcery, or interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord. It is because the other nations have done these detestable things that the Lord your God will drive them out ahead of you. But you must be blameless before the Lord your God.

 

  • While burning your children is unthinkable, this warning begins the list – so the rest of the items on the list are equally detestable to God.

 

“I designate anything as belonging to the occult that involves dealings with the world of spirits or of supra-normal forces which (dealings) are not oriented on Jesus as he is revealed in the Bible…” - John Piper, “Jesus vs. the Occult”

 

  • Our involvement in the occult belittles God because our actions tell Him that we believe He is inadequate to reveal mysteries or to truly protect and care for us.
  • When you invite satan to give you anything – he can come in and torment you in many ways unless and until you close that door. 
  • You might think it is all just fun and games; but the supernatural realm is very real and God does not think it is fun.  He knows how harmful involvement in the occult is to you and your relationship with Him.

 

Saul and the Spirit World

 

1 Samuel 28 NIV 

 

  • Saul did not really want to hear from the Lord.  He wanted to hear from Samuel.
  • He snuck out one night and found a medium, a woman who was known to be able to communicate with the spirits of the dead.
  • Not long after that encounter Saul went into battle and was killed.

 

I Chronicles 10:13 NLT So Saul died because he was unfaithful to the Lord. He failed to obey the Lord’s command, and he even consulted a medium.

 

Nadine’s story

 

  • When demonic creatures showed up in Nadine’s room, she was terrified and the power of God was the only answer.
  • When she felt those creatures start physically attacking her, she heard  someone say on Christian TV that there's power in the name of Jesus.
  • So she shouted “Jesus” and the instant she did those creatures left her room.
  • She still didn't know Him as her Savior but just the use of His name was so very powerful.
  • Nadine wanted to know more about this Jesus.

 

Isaiah 64:6 NIV All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

 

Romans 3:23 NIV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

 

  • “Well, I thought I didn't sin. I was a good girl.” 
  • Then she found herself in a white room with God sitting on His throne with flashbacks of every place that she had fallen short of the glory of God and it wrecked her.
  • That moment led her to praying a prayer of repentance and asking the Lord to be her Saviour.
  • Before Nadine knew Christ, she was tormented by demons after just visiting a place where the occult was practiced.  Once she gave her life to the Lord, however, they did not bother her again.

 

Mary Nelson’s encounter with the spirit world

 

  • Satan will take every opportunity he can to target Christians as well as unbelievers, so we need to know how to stand against his attacks.
  • Mary Nelson learned how to do that when satan tried to do his destructive work in her life.
  • Her family was convicted that they didn't want anything to do with anything related to Satan or demonic forces and they got rid of it.
  • And there was a change in the environment in their home after that.

 

2 Chronicles 16:12-13 NKJV And in the thirty-ninth year of his reign, Asa became diseased in his feet, and his malady was severe; yet in his disease he did not seek the Lord, but the physicians. So Asa rested with his fathers; he died in the forty-first year of his reign.

 

  • When they encountered spiritual forces of wickedness, they prayed through their house, named them, and commanded them to leave in the name of Jesus.
  • They also prayed scriptures over their home and property and dedicated it to the Lord and peace returned.

 

As believers, we have authority to stand against the attacks of the enemy.

 

  • But we must make sure that we have closed any spiritual doors that we might have opened, knowingly or unknowingly.

 

Acts 19:11-20 NIV  …A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly…

 

Ephesians 6:12 NLT For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

 

James 4:7 NLT So humble yourselves before God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

  • We humbled ourselves by getting rid of things that the Lord directed us to get rid of.  Then we could resist the devil effectively so he had to flee.

 

Luke 10:19 NLT Look, I have given you authority over all the power of the enemy, and you can walk among snakes and scorpions and crush them. Nothing will injure you.

 

Genesis 3 NLT The serpent in the garden

 

  • Satan was referred to as the serpent – Jesus has given us authority over him and all his power – as long as we stay submitted to Christ.

 

Victoria’s Encounter with the Spirit World

 

Luke 4:10-11 NLT  …‘He will order His angels to protect and guard you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’

 

  • God also sends angels to care for us.
  • Sometimes angels are sent to announce His plans.
  • They also come to guard and protect us.

 

Psalm 91:11-12 NLT For He will order His angels to protect you wherever you go. They will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.

 

  • And while angels are supernatural beings, we certainly should never worship them.

 

Colossians 2:18 NLT Don’t let anyone condemn you by insisting on pious self-denial or the worship of angels, saying they have had visions about these things. Their sinful minds have made them proud.

 

  • Victoria’s death experience was supernatural.
  • God lives in timelessness outside of time and He gives each of us a time to live and a time to die.
  • The choices and the wisdom that we get from the Lord are not physical, but all spiritual gain.



Romans 11:29 NKJV For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

 

  • “You're going to receive all that God has planned for you. And you're going to teach others what you understand.”
  • Those of us who have been brought up with the western worldview, often discount the supernatural world.

 

Put your full trust in the Lord to lead you and guide you, even through painful times.

 

Philippians 2:10 NLT That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.

 

Ephesians 6:10-18 NLT …Put on all of God’s armor so that you will be able to stand firm against all strategies of the devil…

 

Philippians 4:7 NKJV And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

 

Hebrews 12:2 NKJV Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith…

 

2 Corinthians 10:5 NKJV Casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ

 

Isaiah 54:17 NLT …no weapon turned against you will succeed. You will silence every voice raised up to accuse you…

 

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 NLT “Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live! You can make this choice by loving the Lord your God, obeying him, and committing yourself firmly to him. This is the key to your life…

 

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Transcript

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Hey friends, welcome to the Her God Story podcast.

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I'm your host, Jodie Chiricosta,

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ministry leader at Somebody Cares America and International,

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author and traveler on this journey with Jesus.

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I'm so glad you tuned in to this episode.

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and check out other inspiring episodes.

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Every one of them has a powerful message

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of how God is working in lives of people just like you.

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And please tell your friends about her God's story

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so they can be encouraged in their faith too.

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The spiritual world is real.

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Angels, demons, heaven, hell, those are all real.

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God operates in the supernatural realm.

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That is a realm beyond what our natural senses perceive.

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So it's normal for us to be curious

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and want to find out more.

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God even welcomes that interest

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as long as it is focused on him and him alone.

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He gives some very clear instructions

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about interacting with the supernatural realm in the Bible.

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Those who do not heed his word regarding supernatural things

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can open a door in their lives for the attacks of Satan.

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And he's the one who kills, steals and destroys.

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So let's take a look at some of God's instructions

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about the supernatural realm

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and then hear some stories of people

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who have had supernatural encounters.

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When the people of Israel were getting ready

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to enter the promised land,

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God gave them some guidance through Moses.

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Deuteronomy 18, 9 through 13 in the NLT reads,

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be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs

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of the nations living there.

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For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter

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as a burnt offering.

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I'll stop there for a minute and comment.

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None of you I'm sure have ever considered

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burning your children as a worship to some God.

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It's unthinkable, but this warning begins the list.

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So the rest of the items on the list

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are equally detestable to God.

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I'll continue reading.

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And do not let your people practice fortune telling

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or use sorcery or interpret omens

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or engage in witchcraft or cast spells

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or function as mediums or psychics

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or call forth the spirits of the dead.

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Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord.

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It is because the other nations

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have done these detestable things

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that the Lord your God will drive them out ahead of you.

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These things all fall under the category of the occult.

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So what are some of the modern day versions

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of the things listed?

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I came across an article by John Piper

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that defines the occult and also lists some elements of it.

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I hope it will help you determine other activities

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that also follow this list.

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So you can stay away from them as well.

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John Piper in his blog, Jesus versus the occult

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says, I designate anything as belonging to the occult

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that involves dealings with the world of spirits

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or of supra natural forces,

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which dealings are not oriented on Jesus

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as he has revealed in the Bible.

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With this definition,

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I am assuming the reality of a spiritual world

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and of mysterious supra normal forces.

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I'm assuming that the church makes a grave mistake

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when it says that supra natural phenomena

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are restricted to another age

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or that only godly people can work miracles.

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Such a mistake lays the church open

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to the power of evil precisely

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because it refuses to recognize the presence of that power.

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This definition is also intentionally very broad.

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I mean to include everything

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for the most blatant Satan worship

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to the most commonly accepted use of horoscopes.

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As examples, I would mention seances, necromancy

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and all forms of communicating with the dead, PSI, ESP

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and all forms of supra natural psychic phenomena,

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real magic as opposed to sleight of hand tricks,

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fortune telling, the casting of spells,

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wearing of charms, the use of Ouija boards, astrology, etc.

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John Piper goes on to explain that our involvement

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in the occult belittles God in our eyes

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while exalting mankind.

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It belittles God because our actions tell him

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that we believe he is inadequate to reveal mysteries

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or to truly protect and care for us.

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Instead, those who dabble or delve into the occult

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look to Satan and his demons

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for answers, protection and pleasure.

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And when you invite Satan to give you anything,

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he can come in and torment you in many ways

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unless and until you close that door.

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I heard the Deuteronomy scripture when I was a young girl,

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very thankfully, and I took it seriously.

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I no longer wanted to participate in Halloween,

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which glorifies witches, ghosts and supra natural forces

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that are not of God.

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When friends pulled out a Ouija board, I went home.

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I never looked at a horoscope, even for fun.

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I did not go to movies or watch TV shows

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that glorify the occult themes.

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I still don't.

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You might think it's all just fun and games,

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but the supernatural realm is very real

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and God does not think it is fun.

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He knows how harmful involvement in the occult is

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to you and your relationship with him.

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I certainly do not judge you for your choices.

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Only God can do that,

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but know that all choices have consequences.

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So be aware that when you are making choices

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for you and your family,

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you are the one who gets the consequences good or bad.

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First Samuel 28 tells a very interesting story

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about the occult.

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Samuel, the prophet of the king, had died,

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so King Saul could not get counsel from him anymore.

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Of course, there were priests serving the Lord

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and other prophets of the Lord in the land,

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but Saul really did not want to hear from the Lord.

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He wanted to hear from Samuel.

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Now Saul himself had banned all witches, mediums,

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and spiritists from the land

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as the Lord had told the people of Israel to do,

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but Saul snuck out one night and found a medium,

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a woman who was known to be able to communicate

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with the spirits of the dead.

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Some translations refer to her as the witch of Endor.

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Saul convinced her to call Samuel up from the dead

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so he could talk to Samuel,

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and she was actually able to do it.

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Verses 15 through 19 record the conversation

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dead Samuel has with Saul.

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Not long after that encounter,

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Saul went into battle and was killed.

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1 Chronicles 10, 13 tells us why.

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The NLT reads,

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Saul died because he was unfaithful to the Lord.

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He did not keep the word of the Lord

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and even consulted a medium for guidance.

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I tell you this to convince you of the reality

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of the spiritual world

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and that there are very real consequences.

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Nadine Nesbitt is an engineer, very analytical,

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not prone to hysteria or mystical thoughts.

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So when demonic creatures showed up in her room,

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she was terrified

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and the power of God was the only answer.

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Take a listen to her story.

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Well, I was in my mid to late 20s

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when a young man invited me on a date

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to a place called Magic Island.

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And it was an entertainment type venue

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where they had magic shows, illusionists.

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They also had a room where they had,

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what I describe now is different occultic services

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that they offered.

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They had a tarot card reader.

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There was a Ouija board table that you could play.

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There was a place to get your palm read,

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all that type of stuff that was in there.

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My date had decided to get his palm read

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and he wanted me to do it with him

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but quite frankly, that dark atmosphere

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kind of creeped me out.

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And so I declined, you know?

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But he went ahead and did it.

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But later that night after I came home,

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I turned the lights out in my room

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and was just settling into falling asleep

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when all of a sudden demonic creatures appeared in my room.

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I could see them physically with my eyes.

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I hadn't been drinking, I didn't do drugs.

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They were a reality.

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They were there, they were right in front of my face.

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So something followed me home that day

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and there were a lot of small creatures

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that were flying around the room

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but there was one large head

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that appeared at the foot of my bed.

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I would describe it now, years later,

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as the face that you would see on one of those orcs

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from Lord of the Rings.

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It was a very grotesque, very ugly and very scary.

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So that kind of freaked me out.

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And so what did your scientific mind think?

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I didn't know what to think.

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I just got up out of bed, I turned on the lights.

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I was scared, quite frankly.

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And so what I did was I had a Bible.

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It was one of those Bibles with the zipper around the edges.

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And I put it on the pillow next to me

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because I thought it would protect me.

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I'd never opened it.

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It was still zippered up

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but it was on my pillow next to me for protection.

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And then I decided to turn on the TV to Christian Channel.

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I just had that Christian Channel on.

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And I slept that way for close to a year.

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I had the Christian TV going on in the background

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and never really sat down to listen to it.

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It was there on,

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because I thought that would offer me some protection.

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Yeah, so I mean, deep in your heart,

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you knew that there was a spiritual realm

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but you didn't really want to go there.

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Right, exactly.

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I didn't want to investigate.

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I didn't know how to investigate.

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And I never heard of anything like that before.

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So yeah, you're right.

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So, but one day, I often did shift work,

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working in mission control

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because you work around the clock,

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supporting shuttle missions.

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And I had one of my colleagues that lived

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in the same apartment complex.

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And he noticed that my light was on all night.

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You know, every time he passed by my apartment

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after his shift was over, he would notice,

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I don't know why, he would notice my light was on.

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So he actually stopped me one day at work and said,

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Nadeen, are you afraid of the dark?

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Well, yes, but I couldn't tell him that.

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So I decided that I was being crazy.

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And I decided that night I was gonna turn my light off

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and sleep like a normal person.

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And when I did, those demonic creatures

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reappeared in my room.

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But this time they were, I would say, more aggressive.

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They actually came to me as I laid in bed

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and I felt a shove.

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I felt, and I actually, my body was moving.

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So there was some kind of real entity in my room

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shoving me, moving me.

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So even though all that time of having that Christian TV

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on the TV, I never sat and listened to it,

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I was hearing it.

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I was hearing what they were saying.

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And one of the things I remembered in that moment

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was someone had said on that Christian TV

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that there's power in the name of Jesus.

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So I called out, I shouted Jesus.

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And the instant I did, those creatures left my room.

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They were gone in an instant.

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It was very, very powerful display

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of the power of the name of Jesus.

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And you still didn't know him as your savior,

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but just the use of his name.

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Just the use of his name was so very powerful.

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When that happened, I jumped out of bed, of course,

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because now I was excited because I had learned

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the power of Jesus' name.

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And so I thought, I need to know more about this Jesus.

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Bolted out of bed, turned on the TV,

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and there was Paul Crouch on TVN.

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And he was quoting from Isaiah 64.

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He's saying, all a righteous acts are like filthy rags.

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And then he quoted from Romans 3.23,

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for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

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Well, I was arrogant enough to just have this thought come

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into my head that he couldn't be possibly talking about me.

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Well, I thought, I didn't sin.

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I was a good girl.

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You know, what is he talking about?

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When have I ever sinned?

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These are the questions that were going in my mind.

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And then it happened.

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I found myself in a white room with God sitting

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on his throne in front of me.

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I didn't actually see God.

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I just knew that it was God that was sitting in front of me.

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The Lord suddenly gave me a life review.

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It started with my childhood.

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It seemingly lasted for hours.

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But I had these flashbacks of every place

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that I had fallen short of the glory of God.

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And it just wrecked me.

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It just left me on the floor in a puddle, weeping.

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I was having some carpet time at that time.

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And it really did seem like it went on for hours and hours

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as you can imagine a life review would.

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But then I've started feeling a sense of despair.

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Like, what can I do now?

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And so that's what I asked.

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I said, well, what can I do now?

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And what can I do to be saved?

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And just as I was thinking that, I heard Paul crouch his voice.

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And he said, you might be thinking right now,

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what can I do to be saved?

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And then he led in a prayer of repentance and of salvation.

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So that night, I became a new creature in Christ

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when I prayed that prayer and asked the Lord

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to become my Lord.

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Wow.

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I knew him personally now.

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And did those creatures ever come back?

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They never came back.

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Never, never, never.

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No.

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Before Nadine knew Christ, she was tormented by demons

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after just visiting a place where the occult was practiced.

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Once she gave her life to the Lord, however,

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they did not bother her again.

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But Satan will take every opportunity

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he can to target Christians as well as unbelievers.

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So we need to know how to stand against his attacks.

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Mary Nelson learned how to do that

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when Satan tried to do his destructive work in her life.

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Let's hear her story.

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So during that time, you also began

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to learn about spiritual warfare and Christ's power in us

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to defeat the works of Satan.

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What were a couple of those experiences?

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Debbie and Mark started going to Christian school

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when they were in middle school.

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And one of the things they did was have Bible class.

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And they were studying the Word of God.

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And they studied about Old Testament and New Testament.

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One of the things they studied was about the occult

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and not to be involved in it.

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Well, we had purchased a beautiful globe bar

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when we were in Europe.

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And one day, the children were standing around the globe bar

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looking at it.

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And notice that there was signs of the zodiac all over this bar.

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And they pointed it out to us.

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And we're aghast that we would have such a thing in our house.

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So we decided we'd better get rid of it.

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So we took all the liquor out, put it in the cupboard.

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At that time, we still weren't convicted about drinking.

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But we got rid of that globe bar, put it out in the driveway.

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And our neighbor happened to see it.

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And she came over and asked what we were doing with it.

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And dad said we were going to get rid of it.

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She said, well, can I buy it?

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He said, oh, no.

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She said, well, how about if I buy it

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and you could donate the money to your church?

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And he said, oh, no, I would not sell a snake to a friend.

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So he put that globe bar in the back of the car

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and took it out to the Kent's home

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where people were gathering together their occultic things.

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And we were going to have a bonfire like the book of Acts.

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Yeah.

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Spoke about.

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I remember that bonfire.

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And in addition to that globe, we also went through the house.

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And anything that we felt convicted about,

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we pulled it off the shelf, books or albums or cassette tapes.

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And you pulled out the Halloween clothes and Halloween

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things to get rid of.

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No one told you about that one, Jody.

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You just did that on your own.

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Yeah, we were convicted at six.

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Convicted that we didn't want anything

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to do with anything related to Satan, demonic forces.

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And we got rid of it out of our house.

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And there was a change in the environment in our home

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after that.

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Yeah, there definitely was.

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There was a time that I hired a piano tuner.

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We had purchased an old upright German grand piano

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when we were in England, which children took

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piano lessons on.

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So when we moved back to Tampa after moving across the ocean

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and coming into a different climate,

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that piano needed to be retuned.

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So I had asked Dad if we could have it retuned.

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And he didn't say anything in the time that I thought he should.

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So I just went ahead and hired someone on my own

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without even asking him.

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I just did it.

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Well, the man came out that I hired.

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And as he was tuning the piano, he would visit with me.

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And he would tell me about these senses that he was attending.

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And some of the weird things that were going on all fall,

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he thought they were wonderful.

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He told me a lot of occultic things.

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And I would try and squeeze in little testimonies

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about the Lord.

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But he was more determined to talk about seances.

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So after that day of tuning, he said,

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he'd like to come back in two weeks after your children had

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played the piano for a while.

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And the keys were, or the strings were stretched.

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And he would readjust the tuning.

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So in two weeks, he came back.

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And of course, there was more stories

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about the seances and occultic experiences.

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And anyway, after that, I paid him and he left.

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But that night, during the night,

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I developed a severe side ache, which bothered me all night long

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and into the next day.

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So I called a friend and asked for prayer.

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And her husband came out that afternoon.

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He was in ministry.

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He prayed for me.

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And then he suggested that dad pray through our house.

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So after he left and dad came home, we had dinner

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and went on to bed.

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And during the night, I just, that side ache

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started getting so bad, I woke up and encouraged him

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to take me to the emergency room.

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So as he was getting dressed to take me to the emergency room,

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a scripture reference came to my attention.

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And I didn't know what it said.

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I just knew what the reference was.

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And it was from Chronicles.

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I think it was 2 Chronicles 16 too.

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So I asked dad if he would please read the Bible

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just to see what it said.

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So he stopped getting dressed and he read the scripture.

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And the scripture said Asa, talking about King Asa,

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he became diseased in his feet.

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And his malady was severe.

434
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,120
Yet in his disease, he did not seek the Lord,

435
00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,000
but the physicians and he died.

436
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,560
And after he read that, I thought, maybe we better not

437
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,480
go to the hospital.

438
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,960
Maybe we just better pray.

439
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,520
And then I remembered our friend suggesting that I have Gary

440
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,560
walk around the house and pray.

441
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,960
So I mentioned it to him and he did.

442
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,600
He walked around the house to pray.

443
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,080
And as he got into our living room near the piano,

444
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,200
the hairs on his arms and legs stood up like static electricity.

445
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,560
He could feel it.

446
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,400
So anyway, he just prayed around the circle of our house

447
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,400
and walking around.

448
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,400
And every time he came past that piano through the living room,

449
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,480
he could sense that sensation of static electricity.

450
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,120
But as he prayed and commanded spiritual forces of wickedness

451
00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:33,960
to leave in the name of Jesus, it became less and less and less.

452
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,600
And finally it was gone.

453
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600
So he came back to bed, told me what happened,

454
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,360
and we both went to sleep.

455
00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,120
A couple hours later, I woke up and I

456
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:45,000
just felt like the Lord let me know that I was healed.

457
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,720
And I was.

458
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,920
It was gone.

459
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,480
So I did have a spiritual lesson on that one.

460
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:49,720
Yeah.

461
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,760
And it's not that you're against going to the doctors.

462
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,560
I mean, we've all gone to the doctor since then.

463
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,880
But this was seeking the Lord.

464
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,320
And it was a spiritual issue.

465
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,280
It was a spiritual attack on you that had been opened up

466
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,240
by that piano tuner experience.

467
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,680
Well, actually, Jody, what the Lord showed me

468
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,040
and reminded me that I had ordered that sterling silver

469
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,920
in England without asking dad.

470
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,800
And here I had hired a piano tuner without asking him.

471
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,080
But I had been hearing that I should respect and honor

472
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,920
my husband and learn submission.

473
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,720
But I also heard that God healed.

474
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,400
So we experienced that night spiritual warfare.

475
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,840
I had opened myself up to that by doing something

476
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,120
that I shouldn't have done by hiring that man to come

477
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,040
and tune the piano.

478
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,400
Not that you not that hiring a piano tuner was was wrong.

479
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,720
But you know, you was my attitude.

480
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,960
You were doing it out of defiance.

481
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,520
Defiance.

482
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,000
Yeah.

483
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,720
So I learned that.

484
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,200
And I also learned that God healed and loved me.

485
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,800
Yeah.

486
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,520
And he forgave me.

487
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:04,160
And that that encounter with really laid a foundation

488
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,040
of understanding of how to address spiritual forces

489
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:17,200
that we needed a couple of years later when we lived in Utah.

490
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,160
That's right, Jody.

491
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,640
We moved into a haunted house, actually purchased

492
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,680
a haunted house unknowingly.

493
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960
We didn't realize it was haunted.

494
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,800
But I experienced depression in that house.

495
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,000
And sometimes during the day when everyone else was gone,

496
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,760
I just felt like crying.

497
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,640
And it was not like me.

498
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,520
And then Debbie was experiencing insomnia.

499
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,320
She was on the swim team in high school and needed her sleep.

500
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,920
But she couldn't sleep well.

501
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,720
So it was a real strain for her to participate on the swim team

502
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,080
without sleeping.

503
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,320
And then one night, Mark, whose basement was down

504
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,920
in the lower part of the house and basement,

505
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,400
came upstairs to the bathroom.

506
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,080
And when he was going back down the steps,

507
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040
he just fenced that if he went down those steps,

508
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,160
he'd go crazy.

509
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,240
And Mark wasn't like that.

510
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,040
He was a very stable, sharp guy.

511
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,640
So he came upstairs to our bedroom

512
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
and explained to us what was happening.

513
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,800
But we just told him to go sleep in one

514
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,320
of the other single beds upstairs.

515
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,000
And we'd pray about it.

516
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,120
Well, we did pray about it.

517
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,360
And while we were praying, this was Dad and I.

518
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,360
While we were praying, we had a mini vision of imps

519
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,600
with coalsacks on their backs.

520
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,640
We felt like maybe the next day we should just pray

521
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,360
through our house, which we did do.

522
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,480
All five of us prayed through our house,

523
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,240
starting down in the basement right next to the furnace, which

524
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,600
had been a coal furnace at one time

525
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,960
and converted to a gas furnace.

526
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280
Yeah, we actually had a coal room back in there.

527
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,040
And we did.

528
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,080
And it was a storage room.

529
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,080
So we actually started praying in that storage room

530
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,640
and commanded those spiritual forces of wickedness

531
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,200
and named them according to what we felt like they were,

532
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,120
commanded them to leave in the name of Jesus,

533
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,960
walk through every room of the house doing the same thing.

534
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,200
Then we anointed the doors with oil

535
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,120
and went to the ends of our property,

536
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,600
each corner of the property, anointed it with oil

537
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960
and prayed scripture over each one,

538
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,920
dedicating our property and home to the Lord.

539
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,600
And peace returned.

540
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,080
As believers, we have authority to stand

541
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,120
against the attacks of the enemy.

542
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:37,200
But we must make sure that we have closed any spiritual doors

543
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280
that we may have opened knowingly or unknowingly.

544
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,640
As Mary shared, my family got rid of occultic items

545
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
we had all around our home, things that were purchased

546
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
before we even came to Christ.

547
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,360
But like the Christians in Acts 19,

548
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:54,960
once we realized that the occult was a doorway for Satan,

549
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,680
we got rid of it all.

550
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,560
My mom also repented of times when she had looked at horoscopes

551
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,400
and played with Ouija boards when she was young.

552
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,360
And that closed the spiritual access Satan had into our lives.

553
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,160
And we had the authority given to us by Jesus

554
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,840
to command Satan in Jesus' name to get out and stay out.

555
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Ephesians 6-12 in the New Living Translation tells us,

556
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,160
for we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies,

557
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,720
but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world,

558
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,160
against mighty powers in this dark world,

559
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600
and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

560
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,080
So these things should not surprise us or even scare us.

561
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,480
James 4-7 instructs us to humble ourselves before God,

562
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,360
resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

563
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,800
This is exactly what Mary and our family did.

564
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000
We humbled ourselves by getting rid of the things

565
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,160
the Lord directed us to get rid of.

566
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Then we could resist the devil effectively,

567
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,040
so he had to flee.

568
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
And in Luke 10-19 in the New Living Translation,

569
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Jesus says, I have given you authority over all the power

570
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,960
of the enemy.

571
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,240
And you can walk among snakes and scorpions and crush them.

572
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,480
Nothing will injure you.

573
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,400
You remember from Genesis, of course,

574
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,880
that Satan was referred to as a serpent.

575
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,960
So Jesus has given us authority over him and all his power,

576
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,840
as long as we stay submitted to Christ.

577
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,240
God also sends angels to care for us.

578
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Luke 4-11 tells of angels that cared for Jesus

579
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,800
after he resisted the temptations of Satan in the wilderness.

580
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Sometimes angels are sent to announce his plans,

581
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,760
like they did to Daniel, Mary, the mother of Jesus,

582
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,360
Zechariah, and others.

583
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,560
They also come to guard and protect us,

584
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,520
as it says in Psalm 91 verses 11 through 12.

585
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,960
The NLT reads, for he will order his angels

586
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,360
to protect you wherever you go.

587
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,280
They will hold you up with their hand

588
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,680
so that you won't even hurt your foot on a stone.

589
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,880
And while angels are supernatural beings,

590
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,880
we certainly should never worship them.

591
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Colossians 2-18 warns against that.

592
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Angels are clearly active on the earth today,

593
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,360
although most of us will probably never visibly see them.

594
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:22,080
We can trust, however, that God has sent them for our benefit.

595
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,480
A few people I know have actually encountered angels.

596
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,960
Victoria Sarvati is one of them.

597
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Listen to this and be encouraged.

598
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,520
This was my death experience.

599
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,120
I was in intensive care.

600
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,520
They were working hard to stabilize me.

601
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,040
Apparently, something went wrong, and I started coding.

602
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,120
And I started following what I say is my time in space,

603
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,440
my time in this life, my time in this world.

604
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760
What I'm going to say doesn't make a whole lot of sense

605
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920
in the natural, because it was spiritual.

606
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,400
There's hardly any words to explain.

607
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,680
Sometimes what I say, some people say it sounds New Age.

608
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,800
It's not New Age.

609
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,200
It was an experience that was supernatural.

610
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,680
That's all I can tell you.

611
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560
But it's like I fell through my own universe.

612
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,000
I fell through congruent lines of time and space that were mine.

613
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,880
What do I mean by that?

614
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Well, we live in time and space.

615
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,320
God lives in timelessness outside of time.

616
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,200
And He gives each of us a time to live and a time to die.

617
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,160
As I was going through what I understood, even at that time,

618
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,800
was my future universe, where I'm going to spend my time while

619
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,200
I'm in this body, in what space I'm going to be in.

620
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,640
It was like there were these congruent lines of decisions

621
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,200
I could make in my life.

622
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,280
If I made this decision, then this would happen.

623
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,680
All these different choices I had in my future

624
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400
and my future would have, within it, blessings.

625
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400
And then sometimes it would just be darkness.

626
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080
And I would see all these things as I was going through it.

627
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,560
And I understood that these places where the lines met

628
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,320
were my choices.

629
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080
And some of those choices were full of what

630
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,160
I call precious gems, gems of great price,

631
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,960
gems of understanding, knowledge.

632
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,760
What I witnessed in my life to make it be a testimony,

633
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,480
I saw these places all along the way in my own universe

634
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,040
that I would experience.

635
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,000
And then at the very end of that tunnel

636
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,360
was a huge wealth of precious gems, like gold,

637
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,640
like greater than rubies.

638
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
But all of this is through the choices and the wisdom

639
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,040
that we get from the Lord.

640
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,360
It's not physical.

641
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,480
It's not monetary gain that we get.

642
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,720
But it is all spiritual gain and wonderful riches

643
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640
that we get as we experience our life in this time

644
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680
and space that we occupy.

645
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
And so anyway, I was at the end of that tunnel.

646
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,600
I came out and I was now in the ICU,

647
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680
the intensive care unit at Methodist Hospital.

648
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520
And I was barbed to my body.

649
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,880
And I couldn't move any further than where I was.

650
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,760
I was above it.

651
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,640
And next to me was an angel.

652
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600
And I knew the angel by name.

653
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080
I called him by name.

654
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,720
His name was Parrots.

655
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,520
And I didn't know at the time what that name meant.

656
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,960
But I do, once I started taking Hebrew years later,

657
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
it's the one who stands in the gap.

658
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Hebrew is interesting too, because it also takes,

659
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,320
just by changing little jot or tittle, a vowel sound,

660
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,040
you can change that word into an opposite meaning.

661
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320
And so, parets can also mean,

662
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,280
porets can mean one who breaks through.

663
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,800
And so the one who stands in the gap

664
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,080
and the one who breaks through is the one I was talking to.

665
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,440
And if you understand, and I didn't know this then,

666
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,760
later on I found out that a messianic reference

667
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,800
in the Jewish understanding comes from Melachi,

668
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
where he says that the Son of Righteousness

669
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320
comes with healing in his wings.

670
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
And it also says that he's the breaker.

671
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,160
But where he breaks through, it's the breaker

672
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,000
that breaks through.

673
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,120
It's a messianic reference of the Messiah.

674
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,600
That is a very interesting aspect that I found later

675
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
that it wasn't just an angel,

676
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
but it was the angel of the Lord that appeared to me.

677
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,840
And somebody said, well, you can't see God.

678
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,720
And if you do, you die.

679
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,440
And I said, well, yeah, I was dead.

680
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,040
So I couldn't really see his face actually,

681
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560
because there was so much light radiating from it

682
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,240
that you knew there was a face behind that light.

683
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,440
But it was beautiful.

684
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,840
And we were able to communicate.

685
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,080
And he told me that I was,

686
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,960
this was the mandate that you mentioned,

687
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,160
that I was to go back, because I really didn't want to.

688
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,440
I wanted to go see my child.

689
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,840
I said, where's my baby?

690
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920
He says, he's on the lap of the father.

691
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,480
He says, but you're gonna go back.

692
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,320
And you're going to go through that time and space,

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you know, that continuum, that time continuum,

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that is already designed for your life.

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And you're going to experience all these things in real time.

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And I said, well, that's okay.

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I really like it here.

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I tried to reason with him.

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So I really didn't want to stay.

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And he says, no, it's been ordained.

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These gifts are irrevocable.

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You're going to receive all that God has planned for you.

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And you're going to teach others what you understand.

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I had no choice.

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And then he says, besides this,

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the Lord has granted the prayers of saints

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that are praying for you.

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About that later, there were all kinds of prayer vigils

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and intercessors that were praying for me

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at that point in time.

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So I felt myself being brought back.

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I woke up a little bit later.

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Those of us who've been brought up

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with the Western worldview often discount

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the supernatural world.

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Yes, we believe in God, probably even angels and demons,

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but we have a hard time believing

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that the supernatural world impacts

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or is active in our lives.

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But it is.

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The supernatural world is very real.

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And the occult is not harmless fun and games.

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You will experience very real consequences in the natural

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if you open that door in your life.

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Like Saul did when he visited the Witch of Endor,

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a woman who knew the power of the supernatural world

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but was on the wrong side.

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If you already have opened that door in some way,

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there's a very effective remedy.

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I already mentioned it.

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James four verse seven tells us,

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submit yourself to God, which includes repentance

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and removal if necessary of occultic items.

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Then you can resist the devil and he will flee.

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When we focus on our great and loving God,

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we do not need charms or crystals

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or fortune tellers or magic.

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Put your full trust in the Lord to guide you

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and to lead you even through painful times.

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He will never leave you or forsake you.

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I invite you now to agree with me in prayer.

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Father, you are God Almighty creator of all things.

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You by your power hold all things together.

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We adore you God and we trust you with our lives,

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with our futures.

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Father, we submit ourselves to you again.

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And Lord, I ask you to reveal to my dear listeners

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any way they may have opened an occult door in their lives,

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give them wisdom how to close that door,

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lead them Holy Spirit to repent of past involvement

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and rid themselves of anything

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that is an open door for satanic attacks.

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Then give them courage to stand firm, resist the devil

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and we thank you that we know he will flee.

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It is at the name of Jesus that every knee bows

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in the seen and the unseen world.

757
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Thank you for giving us spiritual armor

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so we can stand against the wiles of our enemy, the devil.

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So now we put on the belt of truth.

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With it, we have discernment to know truth from lies.

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We put on the breastplate of righteousness,

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which is a sign of our right standing with you

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and our authority as your children.

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We shod our feet with a peace that comes from the good news.

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So we are fully prepared each day.

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That peace also guards our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

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We hold up the shield of faith

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and extinguish every fiery dart of the enemy.

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We put on the helmet of salvation

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and we fix our mind and eyes on you, Jesus,

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which destroys doubt and allows us to take

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00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,920
every rebellious spot captive and make it obedient to Christ.

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We also joyfully pick up the sword of the spirit,

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which is your powerful word.

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00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,880
And we declare right now Isaiah 54, 17,

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which says no weapon turned against us will succeed

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,480
and every voice that accuses us will be silenced.

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Thank you again, Father, for equipping us

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to live as overcomers in you.

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It is in Jesus' name we pray.

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Amen.

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Thank you for tuning in.

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Check out the show notes at hergodstory.org for scriptures

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and other information we talked about.

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And remember to get your free six-week devotional

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We'd also love to pray with you

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on our 24 seven prayer and text line.

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So give us a call or text anytime at 855-459-CARE

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or email us at prayer at somebodycares.org.

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And now dear friends, I leave you with a key

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to abundant life from Deuteronomy 30 verses 19 and 20.

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You have the choice between life and death,

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between blessings and cursings.

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Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make.

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Oh, that you would choose life

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so that you and your descendants might live.

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You can make this choice by loving the Lord your God,

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obeying him and committing yourself firmly to him.

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This is the key to your life.

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