"21st Century Deborahs and Esthers: Roundtable w/ Cindy Jacobs" S1 Ep21

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It has been proven as self-defense tactics and when being attacked, the first thing a

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person loses is their voice.

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When the attack finds their voice, it shifts the advantage to their position.

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The enemy is silence woman for too long, guilt, shame, accusation, and intimidation.

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In this hour, God is calling forth the other half of the army to release their role.

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Meanwhile, heaven is summoning forth those who will champion the overlooked and under

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regard.

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In this episode of Keep 100, we will talk about what God is doing in women, the emerging

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generation of esters and devils near the pioneering prophetic voices of city changers.

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We are so looking forward to the topic about women being released in this hour because

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we are an ester and a debra time, so this topic hits home for me personally.

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So I'm so excited to dive into it, but before we do, I want to talk about how fun was Thanksgiving

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this last week.

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It was amazing.

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It's always great to get together with family, especially I think against the backdrop that

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this has been one of those unique years where we've been separated and all this kind of

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stuff, but it's good just to have a meal, love on family.

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We had three generations present and it was just awesome.

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It was awesome.

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And you know, it just got me all the more excited because it's been such a time of quarantine.

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I know every state's different, but California has just been the lockdown since March pretty

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much and we've gone back into lockdown recently.

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And so, you know, it just, it felt so nice to be with family and just connect and have

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that quality time and just enjoy each other.

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That's right.

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Well, I'm ready to dive in.

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You want to dive in?

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Let's dive in.

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It's funny, Christa, I saw this interview with this amazing lady and I just want to

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share with you, keep it 100 listeners.

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About three weeks ago, I don't know if you know this history was made by the Florida

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Marlins of Major League Baseball.

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They hired Kim Ng, an Asian American as the first woman hired as a general manager by

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any major professional men's teams in North American sports.

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That was trailblazing.

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Oh my goodness.

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That is powerful.

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You know, I love it.

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I love it when I see women push through barriers and really break through and really show us,

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you know, women can do so many different things and think there doesn't have to be a barrier

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in the areas of football or baseball or other sports because women are incredible sports

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too.

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So what a breakthrough.

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I love that for her.

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And listening to that interview, you could tell that this lady was very accomplished

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and that she's going to be a benefit to that organization.

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They're going to love to have her.

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And she even in her kind of interview, she alluded to the fact of how proud she was

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as a woman and of other women who are shattering glass ceilings so that future generation of

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young girls won't have to worry that their dreams aren't achievable.

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You know, I love those celebrations and I think we're going to only continue to see

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more and more women shattering ceilings and breaking through previous barriers because

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we are in the day and the hour at this time where God is anointing women to rise up like

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never before.

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But it's interesting that whenever God highlights and puts his hand on a people group, you know,

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specifically women in this episode, that's what we're focused on.

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There's often backlash on the other side of that.

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So as we're seeing women get released, we're also seeing the kickback and the clapback

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for against women at this time.

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And you know, we all remember about a year ago, there was a prominent male pastor who

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really made some offensive remarks against a well-known female Bible teacher.

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And during that time, we just saw this narrow mindedness kind of kick in of someone that

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is of prominent status and has quite an influence on a platform and the mocking that attitude

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and belief system about women was put on such display.

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It really, it really shocked me as a woman.

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I thought, oh my word.

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And not only was there mocking to this day and here's here, I do want to just add a caveat

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before I continue.

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I believe in transformation, I believe that someone can always change, but at this point

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of time, there hasn't been a repentance or hasn't been any remorse or change of mind

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from the previous comments.

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And so it just reminded me that as God is highlighting, the enemy often wants to kick

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back who God is anointed in the hour.

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It's so true.

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And he told her to go home.

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And I was, I was grieved by that, but I was particularly impressed by the female Bible

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teacher, just how she forgave, she took the high road and it was just really amazing to

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see that she wasn't deterred by that.

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She's still encouraging people in the body of Christ.

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I love her ministry.

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I really have received from her and really been impacted by what God has given to this

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amazing woman of God.

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You know, a great example of this is in Acts 10.

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Peter had a difficult time in the whole aspect of allowing Gentiles to come to the table.

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But in Acts chapter 10, he has a revelation and God told him to eat something.

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He says, no, no, no, God, that's unclean.

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And so all of a sudden God, as often when God begins to highlight people groups, he's

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got to deal with those old modalities.

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He's got to deal with fixed mindsets and religious habits.

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And he told him to eat something that Peter would find unclean.

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And God told Peter, do not call unclean what I've called clean.

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In other words, don't put a label on something just because of your tradition.

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And the cool thing is God poured his spirit out on Gentiles.

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And Peter was the one to say, who are we to keep these from being water baptized now?

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In other words, they're just as much a part of the church and ready to contribute as any

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of us Jews.

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And so I thought that was huge that we already see this in the book of Acts.

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It's so true because I think Peter is such an incredible example as we stay connected

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to the spirit of God.

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God is at times going to throw away our comfort zone, even our preconceived notions of how

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he does something or who he's ministering through.

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And I believe we are once again in that hour, even now, in the church today, even within

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our nation, where we have to be dialed into a Holy Spirit saying because he works in ways

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that are not our ways.

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His ways are higher.

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Isaiah 55 talks about this.

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And when he does things different, we often seem surprised.

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But the truth is we all know God's always going to do things outside the box because

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he's not limited to our systems or even our preconceived notions.

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You know, the awesome thing or the silver lining to that verbal attack we were referring

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to earlier by that prominent male pastor against this amazing female Bible teacher is that

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there were so many that came to her defense and so many male pastors, theologians and

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others that really underscored from Scripture and from their hearts, just championing women.

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It just really excited me just to hear that.

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Let me talk about women, it's very interesting, Christa, because at the Global Prophetic Summit

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where you and I got a chance to share a main session that was hosted by Cindy Jacobs, you

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had a prophetic word about ministry.

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Would you share with our Keep It 100 tribe what was the prophetic download that God gave

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you about women in this season?

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You know, the Lord really downloaded to me that with this statement, and this is how

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he dropped it in my spirit, he said, these are the days of Esther.

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That's what the Lord said to me.

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And I said, okay, Lord, what do you mean by that?

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And then he showed me that there's been a spirit of Haman that's been released on this

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nation.

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And when I began to understand and study Haman and I had some, a dear family friend of ours

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send us some notes that she had on Haman.

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And I was just blown away by the research of understanding what Haman's name actually

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means.

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It means multiple things, but a few things that I found really interesting was the name

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Haman actually means disorder, unrest.

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And then the wife is Zoresh, which was Haman's wife.

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Her name meant misery and strange, and then Haman had 10 sons.

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And I won't go through the meaning of all 10 sons names, but just for an example, one

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of his sons names meant sneaky interpreter of the law.

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Another was arrogant, sexual perversion, and the list goes on and on.

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And we see this demonic agenda that's been unleashed in the nation and the Lord showed

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me we're in the days of Esther because as the Haman agenda has been released, it was

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the Esther in the Bible that stood up and overturned the agenda of Haman.

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And we are once again in that hour in this nation at this time where God is again highlighting

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the Esther saying, come on, Esther's arise and take your position, take authority because

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of what you walk in and who you are for this hour to overturn the Haman spirit is the Esther

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arising at this time.

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And what was really cool was the Lord then showed me a picture of a table and there was

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all these people are on the table and the Lord cleared the table and he created space

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between chairs front and center in the middle of the table and he put two chairs forward

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and put two African American women in those chairs and the Lord said, tell the African

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American women, I am highlighting their voice where they haven't previously been heard.

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They're going to be heard now.

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I'm amplifying their voice in this hour and God is going to raise up African American

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women to be used as esters in this hour to overturn the Haman spirit.

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They are a key carrier of what God is doing in this time.

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But I want to encourage women of all races, of all ages, of all socioeconomic statuses.

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I want you to know God is raising up women so women get ready because lids are getting

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removed, ceilings are getting broken through and walls are coming down, barriers are evaporating

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because God is doing something with women in this hour and you are part of it.

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I love that boo, that is amazing.

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Well, keep your 100th tribe.

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We have a special, special interview round table talk with Cindy Jacobs.

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I am so excited about today's episode because we have the incredible Cindy Jacobs with us.

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We love her.

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We're honored to be able to call her spiritual mama in our life.

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Today I just want to talk to you about a really important conversation.

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It's about women and women in this hour that are being used so significantly.

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I want you to speak to what you feel like God is doing with women today in this hour

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2020 because we are seeing God highlight women at this time.

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Yes, really interesting listeners.

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Some of you may know a bit of US history but it took like 88 years for women to get the

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right to vote, the suffrage movement.

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Then we see what Jesus did for women.

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I was writing my book, Women Rise Up.

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I just began to notice that Jesus had women in his troop.

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No rabbi did that.

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I remember reading this thing where if a rabbi saw his wife in the market and she touched

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him, like his ropes, he'd be unclean.

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He'd have to ceremonially.

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His own wife.

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Yeah, his own wife.

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Oh my.

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Yeah, so we've come a long way.

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So glad we don't live in that.

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Yeah, you too.

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Like Jesus.

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Toast.

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You would totally be toast.

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He'd be always having to cleanse ceremonially, whatever that was, sacrifice a lamb or something.

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I don't know.

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But Jesus did more for women.

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I mean, there's a reason women were the last at the cross and the first at the tomb.

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So good.

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Come on, Mama Cindy.

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Because there was nobody like Jesus for us.

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I mean, Jesus lived in a time where they prayed a prayer every day that, thank God, I'm not

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what was a dog or a woman or something like that.

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Oh my.

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Yeah, and their prayers.

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Right.

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So Mary could sit at the feet of Jesus and learn from the rabbi.

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All these things that we just think, I had no big deal.

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She was breaking societal norms.

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Yeah, but today, we are seeing women fight human trafficking.

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We know all these ones, Sharon Nye in Hollywood.

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I mean, I have a friend in Mexico, Rosie Roscoe.

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She'll call me, well, I got a death threat today.

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I'm riding around in her bulletproof car thinking, oh my goodness, if the Mexican mafia is going

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after her, I'm in the car.

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No, I mean, we have amazing women.

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Amazing.

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Yeah, but the new generation that's rising up is more, I mean, fearless.

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Oh yeah.

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So true.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We were talking about the new Wonder Women, but I mean, it's true, really.

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And the signs and wonders, no matter whatever you want to say, we were talking about the

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stories of Deborah and the Bible.

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You know, Deborah was a judge when, you know, women weren't, you have to understand women

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were nothing, they couldn't own property.

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Why?

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They were nothing.

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No inheritance.

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No inheritance.

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Yeah, no livelihood unless provided for by a man.

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Yeah, the husband could literally put their things outside the door and they were divorced

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and she ruled the nation.

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Incredible.

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Yeah, so you have to, yeah.

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Understand the historical projects.

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Yeah, that's one way you study the Bible, studying the history of the time to understand

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what was going on.

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So, I remember, you know, when I was first preaching, I was preaching one time at a conference.

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I mean, I'll never forget I was on the board of March for Jesus and this man stood up

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in the middle of my preaching and began to scream that I was a heretic, you know.

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Oh my God.

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I mean, he's just yelling at me, you know, and got up and marched off, you know.

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And I mean, I didn't try to have an altercation with him or whatever.

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Sure, yeah.

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And I just picked up where I left off.

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We have to do that.

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If Satan wants to cause us to get into diversion, like to divert us from our path or to wound

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our soul, you know, as women, then the devil wins.

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Don't be ridiculous, you know.

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I mean, and if you're ever going to be a great leader, you know, sorry guys, you know, you're

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hitchhiking a little bit on this conversation, but if you're ever going to be a great leader,

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you know, rejection, the possibility for rejected could be your daily bread.

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Don't eat it.

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Whoa.

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Don't eat it.

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Oh my goodness.

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You know, you have got to decide, okay, if somebody doesn't say hello to you and you

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get offended, you're never going to survive when the press comes after you.

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Right.

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Yeah, I mean, because they start like slamming you on multiple levels, you know, the secular

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press particularly, and, you know, cutting and pasting what you've said to make you look

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like an idiot, you know.

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I mean, that's happened to me, but you've got to, it's a test for you.

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One time I was preaching in a nation and I had just been there and they asked me to

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come back and do this big outdoor meeting.

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You know, I got there and I was, I had my sermon that's ready to preach and the pastors

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decided I couldn't preach that night.

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They're going to let a man preach.

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So they put this guy up before me, but they said, oh, but you could pray for the sick.

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So I came up afterwards.

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I mean, the blind saw like this guy's had a huge metal plate.

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It turned him on.

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Jesus.

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Crossed eyes, restraining him.

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And I, when I went in, I, you know, I was having a pity party.

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I was crying, I said, Lord, I know you gave me this message.

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And, and you know, he said, this isn't a test for them, Cindy Jacobs.

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This is a test for you.

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Can you rejoice that he could preach better?

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You know, can you rejoice and bless your brother?

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It was like, oh, you know, I had to get my attitude right.

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I'm thinking I paid my way.

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I'm so tired.

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I just came back around and did this and, and then God gave me all of that.

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He didn't tell me.

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I didn't even know I was going to be up on that platform at all.

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Right.

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You know, but it was a test.

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He was trying to grow me up and filter out that ego.

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Yeah.

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You know, where it's like, okay, you know, you don't get the opportunity to preach

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tonight, but I still want you to minister.

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I still want you to pour out and you have that crossroad moment where you're like, do

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I get offended?

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And do I allow the enemy to rob this opportunity from me?

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Or do I just go, you know what, Lord, I'm grateful for the opportunity, whatever it

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looks like.

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And however I can pour it.

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And however I can love on people, I'll take that and refuse to get caught up in the, maybe

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the people's inability to see what you carry and just be like, Hey, you know, God's the

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one that releases my anointing.

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Whether a door opens and shuts in the natural is irrelevant to what I carry.

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And so, doesn't define me.

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That exactly those defining key moments where you don't let their stuff define you.

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I think for me, I'm watching kind of the scape of the nation and really in a sense, because

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we're on a global pause, we're getting more of an opportunity to see globally what's going

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on, but I'm going to specifically speak to America.

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I'm seeing women more than ever be raised up and highlighted in this hour and specifically

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even women of color.

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I'm going to include white women in that because I don't want to be excluded, but I also recognize

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I really want to come alongside and whatever I can do to help release women of color.

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I think that's so significant in this hour with what God's doing, but women in general,

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we're talking to talked about Deborah, a judge in the nation Esther, who was just a person

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in the Bible in the word that just so displayed a humility that she walked in a favorite influence

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and she put everything online for her people and her generation to not only be delivered,

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but for the cause of the Lord and the plans of the Lord to go forth and her life was one

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that helped push them forward.

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I'm seeing God raise up the Debra's.

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I'm seeing God raise up the esters of this generation for this hour at this time because

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we're such a pivotal time in history, but the esters didn't happen without the mordecai.

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And I believe there is a women's movement that's arising, but that's not to exclude

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men.

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So some men might be listening to you and going, man, this is just about women.

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I believe God's called men and women and there are seasons and times prophetically in history

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where we look at them and maybe a man was the forerunner at that time, but women were

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still very key and still very much a key part of what God was doing.

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And I believe that this time in history, women are forefront and leading, but men are still

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very much a part of what God is doing.

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And I believe when we recognize in a sense who has anointing in the moment, doesn't mean

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men don't have an anointing, of course they do, they always will, right?

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Because they're so valuable.

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But I also recognize God is highlighting women.

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And I really see at times when God begins to highlight a group, right?

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And specifically, I'm saying women of color and I'm going somewhere with this.

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And that is the reality of when God highlights a people group or a specific vein, so to speak,

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the enemy often brings a counterfeit version of that.

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And I've seen that very much with some different voices that have arisen at this hour.

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We're seeing that God voices arise, but we're also seeing the counterfeit voices.

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I'd love for you to speak to that when we're seeing a women's movement.

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I'm also seeing the counterfeit version of what women think is freedom, what women think

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is being unhinged or untamed is a word that's being thrown out there right now for women

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and for them to find them true selves.

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And I'm seeing a lot of women make decisions that are walking away from God, all with the

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narrative that they're speaking of.

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I'm living out the who God called me to be, but it's very much in defiance of their God

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identity.

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And it's a false liberation of women.

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And I want you to speak to that because I feel like we're seeing this real God of move

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and then this real counterfeit liberation of women that are very much walking in a counterfeit

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version of their identity as a prophet.

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What do you say to that?

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What do you speak to that?

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Well, you know, I think it's part of it as identity.

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Like, I don't, it's what filter you're looking through.

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Like, I don't see it as my choice to board a child.

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You know, it's, that's not a choice because God gave life.

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My choice is to be a vessel that can bring someone that could be a significant person

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to change the face of the earth.

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You know, you think about there's somebody inside of me, okay, you know, the most horrible

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thing maybe happened to me.

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You know, I've met people who were a child of rape or whatever and they're up changing

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things there.

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So I think, I think it's very important to have perspective in that, you know, and I

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think it's like when you have to say it's my choice, when you have to say it's like

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part of living the Christ like life is saying, okay, my body is a temple of God.

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You know what I mean?

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It's not about me, you know, because realizing God always wants the best for us.

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Women in the bad times, but yet releasing, realizing as women that we have a voice that

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matters because God created us.

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You know, we have a voice against injustice.

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We have a voice that speaks to eradicate systemic racism, systemic poverty, human trafficking

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and women are rising up in these areas.

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The advocacy, the abolitionists.

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Yeah, activism against pedophilia.

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Yes.

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And activism.

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And these, I think, you know, it's not that men don't do this, but you know, I think within

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every woman, whether you've ever been married or whether you've ever had kids, God put a

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mother's heart in all of us.

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You know, we see these kids being abused or whatever and we want to take care of them.

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And I think also allowing women of color to have a platform is so important because in

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God's economy and God's purpose, he made a beautiful flower garden.

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He sees color, he loves color.

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I hate it when white people say, oh, I don't see color.

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Then you're saying God made a mistake making this person.

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And you don't see them.

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Yeah, you don't see them.

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You don't see them.

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God loves cafe au lait or whatever.

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I love that.

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That's great.

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That's kind of like you, Sean.

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Well, you're this beautiful cafe au lait color.

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I received it.

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I love that.

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I saw this picture of the Sudanese modeling.

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She's like the blackest model on the earth that she was stunning.

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I don't know if it's our picture.

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Yeah, beautiful.

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But yeah, and I think that for the women in the white community, it's time for us, like

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you said, let's be champions.

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You know, we were having dinner just last night, hard to believe, but with Ed Savoso

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and he said that talking about all the women that were immigrant women, you know, like

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Esther was an immigrant.

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That's right.

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So Deborah lived in an occupied country, things like that.

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Those are the ones God's highlighted.

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Yes.

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He says like, you have value.

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You're important.

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And I want to speak to you, you know, as a listener, you have value.

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You are important.

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And you know, whatever you are, red, yellow, brown, black and white.

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But if we can speak to the, if you let me, I am white, but speak to the white community,

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you know, let's be champions.

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Let's look around and value people of colors, boys.

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You know, just like you were saying.

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Yeah.

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I remember Cora Berry was the mayor of Washington, DC's wife, Mary and Barry.

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And so she, we went to Anacostia, DC, myrtle capital, you know, this nation at that time.

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And she says, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to take you on a journey.

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So she took us to the home of Frederick Douglass.

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And you know, he was such a freedom fighter.

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Maybe I don't know who Frederick Douglass was.

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First black in Congress, you know, and stuff like that.

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You know, it's like she, I really, I had so much to learn from her.

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And I needed to be willing to submit to what she knew.

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That's right.

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One thing that we can do as white people, whether we realize it or not, is we talk down

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to other people in other communities.

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You know, it's like we're in this paternalistic kind of zone.

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You know, if you ever watch the movie, the hell, you know, that's so it, you know.

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And let me talk to you listening, you know, whether you're a guy and, you know, my husband

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has been such an advocate for me.

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Yes.

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You know, of course, you know, I remember one time, the first time I was on the cover

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of Cruzma Magazine, I think it was 1994.

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And the editor then told me that all they'd have to do is put women in ministry in the

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same sentence and they'd get bags of hate mail, you know.

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So just by putting me on the cover, they took a risk of all this pushback and all this hate

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mail and they knew what they were doing.

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You know, it was an article, the ladies in general.

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But Mike, I mean, even to this day, if we get bad, you know, tons of bad emails or occasionally

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we get still letters, hard copy.

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But you know, my son or my husband, man, they're out there.

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I never even see those things.

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Right.

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You don't need to say it.

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They totally deal with that.

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I love that.

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Yeah.

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Come on, Mike and Daniel.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Fight for your mom and your wife.

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I think it's great to find people we can be an advocate for.

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That's right.

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I mean, whenever I have to say a word, just come alongside of them and listen to their

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stories and applaud them, celebrate them, you know, give them dignity and strength, you

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know, and let them be in the highlight and not you.

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I love that.

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I think that's such a reflection as we're calling this 21st century Deborah and Esther's

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that it says in Judges 5, it speaks of the state of the times and it says they chose

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new gods, though much like today people are choosing gods of money, gods of sexuality,

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gods of Eastern mysticism.

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It says that there was essentially violence.

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It says that people abandoned life in the streets and is speaking of the violence.

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It says that there was war in the gates, which gates in that time was leadership.

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So they were saying that there were voids in leadership.

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And then it says that essentially there wasn't a weapon possessed by God's people.

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So they felt in the midst of that, how can I even fight this battle?

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And it says all these things existed until I, Deborah arose a mother in Israel.

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I think it's so powerful to think that even at times like this, if someone could be listening

469
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,840
and they may not feel like they have the platform that the two of you have, they may feel like,

470
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,240
hey, I'm stuck at home watching kids, which by the way is the ultimate profession.

471
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,080
They may feel like, hey, I'm just working this job and I'm kind of a wage earner trying

472
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,080
to make it happen.

473
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,320
There may be single moms, divorce moms, young single gals.

474
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,080
And yet you have a position to be a mother and an influencer.

475
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400
I think it was Henrietta Mears who was never married, never had kids.

476
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,920
She impacted two of the greatest soul-wintering impactful vessels of the modern era.

477
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,600
At the same time, she added a force lawn house.

478
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,120
She had Bill Bright who founded Campos Cusay for Christ and had Billy Graham and launched

479
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:56,120
them both.

480
00:26:56,120 --> 00:27:00,960
And here was a woman that they said to her, if you continually try to read, you're going

481
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,120
to go blind.

482
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,920
She says, well, then I want to be, I want to go blind reading the truth because she studied

483
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,920
the word.

484
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,440
And I just think what a legacy and how wrong it is, I think for the good old boys club

485
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,480
to not acknowledge, we need the other side of the army.

486
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,520
If we're going to see a third grade awakening, we can't have half the army on mute.

487
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,640
We need the daughters of Zion Roar.

488
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800
And so I'm so glad that we're talking about this issue.

489
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,800
I love that.

490
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,120
That's so powerful.

491
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:33,360
You know, in a time where we are seeing God highlight women and there's such a, I feel

492
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,920
like a battle for the identity of women at this hour.

493
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,160
I think that's why there's been such an agenda with the counterfeit versus what God's doing.

494
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,840
I'm seeing a poll over so many women and women that I know have walked with God and love

495
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,840
God.

496
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,960
And there's been like a seduction I've seen in this hour at this time where they've just

497
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,280
taken this counterfeit, very liberal women's movement agenda and it's like, God loves women.

498
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,880
He's releasing women, but there's a sanctified God identity version of what he's doing at

499
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,880
this hour.

500
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,880
That's true, Christian.

501
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,880
That's true.

502
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080
And how can we speak to the identity of women at this time?

503
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,360
Because when I asked you the question earlier, your instant response was, it's the identity.

504
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,360
It's the identity.

505
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:20,200
How can we speak to as women that place of identity where that seduction is broken, that

506
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,600
enticement to a false narrative isn't enticing?

507
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,920
How can we as women of God speak to that place in women's hearts?

508
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,960
Well, you know, again, a lot of times, like if you're really called to justice or make

509
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,480
things right, if you don't have the Bible really as your anchor, if you don't believe

510
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:45,320
it really is the Word of God, then you say, okay, well, I can only make things right by

511
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,480
going to being four people who want to have an abortion, being four people who want to

512
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,520
choose whatever sexual identity they want to.

513
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:02,840
And so I think it's really being so rock solid in who you are and realizing that God is the

514
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:09,720
bringer of justice and that He will help us bring justice in ways we cannot imagine or

515
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,720
dream.

516
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,360
And also knowing what you're supposed to do to bring justice.

517
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,280
I think that that's really important.

518
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,040
I've always known that I was to be a champion for the next generation coming after me as

519
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
a woman.

520
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,240
I remember I told a group of young women, I began to tell them stories of things that

521
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,320
happened to me and different things along the way.

522
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,680
And I said, look, don't waste this opportunity.

523
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,040
I really suffered.

524
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Right.

525
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,560
Open these doors for you.

526
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Right.

527
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,560
So don't be silent.

528
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,560
That's good.

529
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Don't mess it up.

530
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,560
Don't just choose.

531
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,560
Cause you're spot for this.

532
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Yeah.

533
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Yeah, I fought for this for you.

534
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,040
I look at the young women at Bethel or Chase, you know, at Harvest International Ministries,

535
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,560
H-I-M, or these different movements, Jesus' culture.

536
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,040
And I just thought, they don't even have to think a second as a woman, but they have a

537
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,760
right to be on that platform.

538
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Right.

539
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,680
It never enters their mind.

540
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,840
Every time I stood on that platform for years, I realized there were the probabilities there

541
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280
were people out there that hated it.

542
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280
You know what I was saying?

543
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:20,200
I mean, I was preaching in Ireland a few years ago, and when they heard I was going to preach

544
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,960
and be there, I was, you know, walked out on too.

545
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:32,120
The pastors in Wales came in and talked to my host and uninvited me to the pastor's prayer

546
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,120
gathering.

547
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Oh my.

548
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:40,440
You know, I mean, ask, came and said, please don't bring Cindy Jacobs to this gathering.

549
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Oh my.

550
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,440
Yeah.

551
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,840
You know, I mean, so, you know, it's like, I have a choice in that moment.

552
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Yeah, you do.

553
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,840
Yeah.

554
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Yeah, I have a choice.

555
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,520
But the thing is, I know that there are going to be women in Wales.

556
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320
There are going to be an incredible voice for revival.

557
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,360
You know, we're talking about your roots.

558
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,040
You know, you have some whatever Scottish, whatever, you know.

559
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Yeah, Scottish and Irish, yep.

560
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Yeah.

561
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,440
And they were the reformers.

562
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Yes.

563
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680
You know, St. Patrick and all that.

564
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Yes.

565
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,800
You know, but I think that you have to be rock solid, what you're called to do.

566
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,800
That's right.

567
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Yeah.

568
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520
And if your identity isn't in Christ, you waiver, you get offended.

569
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,920
We can't walk around.

570
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,960
A woman with an offended spirit defiles so many people.

571
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Yes.

572
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,720
You know, Hebrews 12, I think it is, it talks about how a bitter root defiles.

573
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:36,760
And you know, if you have this agenda, this, you know, chip on your shoulder, I hate men

574
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040
or men are always stopping me.

575
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Well, you know, then when you preach, it's going to leak out of you.

576
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,000
You know, when you talk to people, it's going to leak out of you.

577
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000
That's so good.

578
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Yeah.

579
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,360
And so you just can't have that.

580
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Yeah.

581
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,360
You can't be a hater.

582
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,360
So true.

583
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360
I mean, just can't be, you know.

584
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,440
And I feel like for women in their area of identity is so key, especially in this hour,

585
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,960
what voices are you listening to?

586
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,200
Who are you allowing to speak into your life?

587
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,080
And in this time of COVID, and I know every state is different, California is still very

588
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,080
closed.

589
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,320
You're obviously from Texas.

590
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,320
It's not as closed.

591
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,880
And in a time of isolation and what feels as a time of disconnect, because a lot of people's

592
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,800
community is still online, the spiritual family, church families is still meeting online, still

593
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,000
not meeting the person.

594
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,280
I've noticed this kind of regression of women and their identity in God.

595
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,920
And there's a narrative they're hearing from the news or from social media or from different

596
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,720
media outlets where they are basically repeating what's being dictated to them versus, I can

597
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,000
tell there's an absence of the previous God voices in their life.

598
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,840
And I feel like when we're speaking to at this hour, because really I'm speaking to

599
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,080
this time in our nation, we're such a pivotal time, God's highlighting women.

600
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,240
He's raising up the Debra's.

601
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,720
He's raising up the esters at this time.

602
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,320
He's raising up women of influence to bring freedom, to bring kingdom justice.

603
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,040
But the voices that you allow in your life at this hour, to me, have never been more

604
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,040
important.

605
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:12,600
And because there is such a disconnect in the natural, but what a perfect time to connect

606
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,920
in the spirit because things have slowed down.

607
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,680
There's a time to reflect in this hour when life has gotten a little less busy, maybe for

608
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,680
some.

609
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,280
But I feel like God's inviting us into this place of intimacy because he's setting us

610
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,200
up for what we're to carry.

611
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:33,800
And this hour, whom you're allowing to speak into your life is so, so, so important.

612
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,040
And so I feel like even for some listeners, you've gone back to some old voices.

613
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,680
You've gone back to some people that you knew previously, God's like, hey, that's not the

614
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,080
voice I've called you to have speak into your life.

615
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,560
And you've removed some God influences and you've brought in some old, familiar things

616
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,200
because you have felt the instability and the insecurity of the time.

617
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,840
And often when we feel insecure and stable, we go back to what's familiar.

618
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,200
And I felt like God's like breaking the familiar and still going to the unknown with God.

619
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,000
And I feel like there's an invitation for the God voices to reconnect in your life right

620
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,040
now because I feel like if we're speaking to identity, there has to be times where people

621
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,920
are reminding you of who you are and what you carry and who God is in your life and

622
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,920
in you.

623
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,520
I know for me that's been pivotal as a woman.

624
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,540
So at this hour, again, I'm just speaking to this Cindy and I'm just kind of picking

625
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:30,440
your brain because you're a prophet and I want to know what the prophets are saying,

626
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,440
right?

627
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,760
So I'm taking advantage of this moment.

628
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,880
And I feel like because women are being highlighted, what is the greatest asset of being a woman

629
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,440
of God in this hour?

630
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Well, we're 11.

631
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,920
You know, I mean, just like a woman cooks, you know, like cook or anybody really, that's

632
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,120
kind of a sexist remark, I'm sure.

633
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,120
But you know, makes bread, you know, and it causes it to rise.

634
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,520
You know, I'm determined wherever I am, I'm at 11.

635
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Wow.

636
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Okay.

637
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600
When I walk into a place, the atmosphere of God comes in there.

638
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,600
That's true.

639
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,600
That is true.

640
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Yeah.

641
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Do that.

642
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Yeah.

643
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,000
And I mean, some of you are listening, you know, I remember when I would listen to this

644
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,760
kind of talk, I just think, could that ever be me?

645
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,560
I mean, it really wasn't a lot from women in my early days, but just people talking about

646
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,280
making a difference.

647
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,760
You know, and I remember just burning, wanting to do something.

648
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,000
And I mean, it was, it was just, I want to say to you what God told me.

649
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
The Lord said, I know where you live.

650
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Wow.

651
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,600
And I don't waste anything.

652
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,600
That's okay.

653
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Like, I realized, I remember when I was 30, you know, I didn't preach when I was 30.

654
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,720
And I got, God called me when I was nine and I thought, wow, you know, you didn't even

655
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,320
let me go to Bible school.

656
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,960
You know, it's like, okay, you know, maybe that was all just, I was weirding out or something.

657
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,600
You know, that was a really God calling me or all that, you know, and then God hit the

658
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,320
go button, you know, God has two speeds, weight and fast forward.

659
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,240
You know, it goes, nothing happens.

660
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,600
And then you're going so fast, it scares you.

661
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,600
That's so good.

662
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,760
But I want to say to you, God is putting that burning desire in your heart.

663
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,120
You know, when we're talking about being advocate for people of color or women, it's just loving

664
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,120
people.

665
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,120
It's not hard.

666
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,720
It's not rocket science, you know.

667
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,960
It's just loving like Jesus loves.

668
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,760
So, you know, I just want to pray for you as a listener.

669
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,680
And I just want to say to you, this is like God reaching out to you right now and saying

670
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,880
your life has value.

671
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960
I created you for destiny.

672
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,320
I created you for good.

673
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,720
You're not a mistake.

674
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,920
You know, whatever it is, you know, God is going to see you get to your destination.

675
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Come on.

676
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,920
What's the greatest challenge for women in this hour?

677
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,360
Well, you know, I think believing in yourself.

678
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Yeah.

679
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,360
You know, it's like...

680
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,360
So true.

681
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Somehow it seems like women get so beat down.

682
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Yeah, I know.

683
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,880
The Bible is really hard on themselves.

684
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,880
Yeah.

685
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,200
The Bible says, love others, just you love yourself.

686
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,680
You know, and I just find a lot of times women, you know, either they go two directions,

687
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,520
either they're a shoe ho, like, you know, or they want to pin a penny on themselves,

688
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,520
you know what I mean?

689
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Right.

690
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,040
It's like finding that place, you know, a balance or, you know, where you really do

691
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,040
you love yourself.

692
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Yeah.

693
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640
If you can't love yourself, you're not going to love anybody else.

694
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,640
For sure.

695
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,680
Yeah, I've really, in the early days trying to bring women together, it was really hard.

696
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Yeah.

697
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
I couldn't get them to see the value of coming together.

698
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,400
I couldn't see, like, you know, men would have all these meetings, men in leadership,

699
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680
and the women just didn't show.

700
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,040
And I was really upset with them.

701
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,520
But then I got over myself.

702
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,320
And I just realized that sometimes there are things that just seem to press you down and

703
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,480
press you back.

704
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,640
And so, you're listening, again, we say, this is a God moment for you.

705
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,840
God wants you to believe in yourself, but in a healthy way, not to be selfish and say

706
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,320
it's about me, again, my body, my choice.

707
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,400
No, it's about becoming a vessel that God can use and living for others.

708
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Yeah.

709
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,080
You know, if you live for others, God will see your needs are met.

710
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That's so good.

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That's so good.

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I love, you know, that movie, What Women Want With Mel Gibson.

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I remember watching that and he had this insight because obviously he had the ability, you

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know, kind of a silly movie, but I really liked it.

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And he did a Nike pitch.

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And in the Nike pitch, he's like, women are really hard on themselves.

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He's like kind of doing the brainstorming session for this pitch.

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He's like, women are really hard on themselves.

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They live in a place of regret.

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They're always worrying.

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They second guess themselves.

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And as I'm watching the movie, I'm like, we do do that, right?

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It was just like watching a movie.

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And then it sounds funny, but from that point, from watching that movie, this is years ago

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because this movie is old.

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And I remember making a conscious decision at that point.

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I'm going to stop being so hard on myself.

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I'm going to stop living in a place of regret.

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I'm going to stop second guessing myself.

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And like you said, actually believing that I am who God says I am, not from a place of

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perfection, not because I always nail it, but because the grace and the kindness of God,

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he covers my shortcomings and he uses my shortcomings to teach me more about him.

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But God's not looking for me to be perfect.

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He's looking for me to be available.

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And when I become available and I just have a yes in my life, I actually believe who God

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says I am, I am.

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And that for women, I think is so key because we're talking about identity.

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We're talking about being the Deborah, being the Esther.

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They both had to pass through those challenges they had within themselves of self-doubt and

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worry.

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I mean, he even talks about an Esther.

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I mean, she was afraid.

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I mean, Mordeka had to challenge her to actually go before the king.

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She's like, are you crazy?

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I could die.

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And he's like, hey, if you don't do it, someone else is going to do a Esther.

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And then she realizes, okay, if I die, I die.

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If I perish, I perish.

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Like, I'm going to go ahead and just live my life for God fully.

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He's put me in this position of influence.

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And she actually believed in that moment she could be the one that could change the course

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of history.

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And I think she's such an incredible picture of not necessarily doing it because she was

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the most confident person in the world or had it all together or had the right resume.

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Hardly.

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It was quite the opposite.

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She was afraid.

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She's orphaned.

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She's an immigrant.

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She is not of the right, a people group.

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Everything in the natural was kind of working against her.

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But because she believed the word of God over her life and she actually believed she could

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be a deliverer, she actually believed she could be used by God, boom.

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Right when we actually step into a place of agreement with God, you spoke this over my

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life and I'm actually going to take you at face value and say, okay, Lord, if you said

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it, it's true.

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That's when we see things begin to shift in our family, in our marriages, of our kids,

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our home, our coworkers.

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Your sphere of influence, I want to speak to the listeners, your sphere of influence

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begins to shift when you come into agreement with who God says you are.

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Cindy, you've walked to this so well and the obstacles you had to go through repeatedly

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in your life.

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And I know the listeners are just getting this little tiny snippet of these little windows

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into your stories, but the persecution, the accusations, the people that have risen up

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against you and yet you have stayed sweet in the spirit.

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Yet you have stayed a lover of people even when people have spoken against you.

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Even when the accuser has risen up, you've loved and you've stood your ground, you haven't

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wavered and you've refused to be offended and then God's used you because you've just

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believed God, you call me a prophet, you got to call me a voice and that's changed everything.

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And I know there's women listening today that are like, how can I be a part of Cindy's

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ministry, how can I get to know more when she's doing check her out?

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Yougenerals.org.

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And I just want to say thank you for battling through and for not giving up, staying the

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course because truly our lives have benefited from it.

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Thanks for coming today.

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We love you.

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Yeah, thank you.

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It's been so much fun.

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Love you all.

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Love you listeners too.

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Wow, was that powerful?

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Cindy's always incredible.

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That woman is absolutely amazing.

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She's been such a champion of women and she continues to be such a leader and a release

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of women for this hour.

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I really love her vulnerability and her transparency and her heart just for people that others

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overlook.

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I think it was amazing.

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Well, as always, Keep Your 100 Tribe, we have our Keep Your 100 takeaways.

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In this episode, we want to give you two points on the significance of partnering with the

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emerging women's movement.

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It's so important to partner with this women's movement because Jesus partnered with women.

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Jesus was very counterculture in his affirmation of women.

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It was women who were first that came to the tomb who were the first to see the resurrected

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Jesus.

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That's true.

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These women were the first to be entrusted with the news that he had been raised from

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the dead.

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And N.T. Wright says Mary Magdalene and the others are actually the apostles to the apostles.

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I love that.

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We have to be reminded.

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In Jesus's earthly ministry, he used the example of the widow giving her mites to rebuke

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self-righteousness and even religious leaders.

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He honored the woman who broke the alabaster box.

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He also included the women as characters in his parables of the lost coin, the unjust

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judge and the 10 bridesmaids when we find a Matthew.

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And Jesus even affirmed the woman who was unceremonally unclean, the woman with the issue

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of blood.

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We find that in Luke.

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And then he forgave and he restored the dignity of the woman caught in the act of adultery.

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Why?

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Because Jesus has always loved women, valued women, empowered them, brought their dignity

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back, but also always called out the voice of who women are.

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And he's doing that today.

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He is.

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He really is doing it.

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You can see that.

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The second and our last point in the significance of partnering with the emerging women's movement

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is really twofold.

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And it's simply this, with some exceptions, and I want to emphasize some exceptions,

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the church has exchanged our place as the socially progressive force for a culturally

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backwards one as it relates to this position on the issue of women rising up to the position

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of influence.

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It seems like culture has led the way when we as Christ followers, we should be the

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ones leading the way.

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We can be better in championing women as Jesus did.

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So let's regain our position as trailblazers and pioneers of the kingdom, recognizing who

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God has poured his spirit on.

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Because if you really think about it, it doesn't seem right to utilize the gifting of women

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without releasing their voice.

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Come on, say that.

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We release women to teach Bible classes.

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They're teaching kids ministry, they're organizing their service, fellowship events, managing

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day-to-day operations.

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And the majority of missionaries are women.

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But often when it comes to directional decisions, in some spaces women are excluded.

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And let me just say, God's daughters being included in all levels of leadership is no

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longer an option.

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It's biblical.

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It's culturally necessitated and it's required for the church's future.

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We need the full body to have a full impact.

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And I want to leave you guys with a quote by Gordon Fee, who is the professor emeritus

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of the New Testament at Regent College.

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Here is Gordon Fee's quote.

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It seems like a sad commentary on the church and on this understanding of the Holy Spirit

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that quote, unquote, official leadership and ministry is allowed to come from only one

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half of the community of faith.

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The New Testament evidence is that the Holy Spirit is gender inclusive, gifting both men

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and women and thus potentially setting the whole body free for all the parts to minister.

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And I would add to that, we must be reminded and encouraged.

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The prophet Joel said before there would be multitudes, multitudes in the valley of

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decision, which I believe will be a day of harvest.

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He prophesied God will pour out his spirit on sons and daughters.

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And I'm excited to be in that day where we are seeing God pouring out his spirit on

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sons and daughters.

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Keep it 100 tribe as we close this week's episode.

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We pray and our hope is that you are not only encouraged and reminded of who you are as a

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woman of God, that if you're a guy listening to this episode, know that this includes you

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too.

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Esther was not Esther without the mordecai.

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We are in the days of esters.

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Therefore, the esters and the mordecais are arising.

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I believe this includes the whole body of Christ.

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So men, if you have women in your life, begin to call out who they are in Christ Jesus and

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women begin to call out one another and remind each other that God is anointing us for this

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hour and your voice is valuable because this is the moment that we are going to overturn

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00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
the Haman agenda in our nation.

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As always, will you continue to refer, rate and review this podcast?

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Even share the link on your social media platforms.

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00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,080
the body of Christ.

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And this podcast we believe is a part of that.

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If you want to connect with us during the week, check us out on Facebook, a shout out

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We'd love to hear how this podcast has impacted you.

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And you would not want to miss next week.

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00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,320
Keep it 100 Tribe as we have our conversation on real talk on marriage, the closest thing

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to heaven or hell.

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Anyone will experience this side of eternity.

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And as always, remember, relief can change your circumstance, but a revelation can change

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you.

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Smith.

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