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By definition, joy is a state of mind and an orientation of the heart.
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It is a settled state of contentment, confidence and hope, but joy in its fuller spiritual
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meaning involves so much more.
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This time of year seems to be a highlight of both the presence and the absence of this
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crucial spiritual quality.
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In this episode of Keep It 100, we talk about displaying emotional radiance, the difference
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between happiness and joy, and an interview from Down Under with founder of Melbourne's
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School of Profits, Gary Morgan.
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Welcome to another episode of Keep It 100 with Christa and Sean.
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Welcome, welcome everyone.
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Come on everybody.
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I don't know about you, but the Smith household, we are in full Christmas swing.
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We have a decorated tree.
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We have decorations in the house.
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Hallmark has been on repeat.
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Oh my.
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I think I watched it so long one day.
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I was just like vacuuming and cleaning and decorating the house for Christmas.
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And all of a sudden the message came up on the TV, are you still watching?
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Because it'd been like four hours.
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Oh my.
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Right.
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But I have presents that are mostly wrapped.
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And I would say I've done like 95% of the Christmas shopping.
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You are very impressive to be able to do all of that in light of the backdrop of this year.
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Thank you, baby.
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You know, I did it really early this year, even maybe earlier than normal, because there's
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been so many shipping delays with all this whole COVID and pandemic.
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I wanted to make sure we got everything on time.
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So it's been such a weird, weird season.
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And then to go into the Christmas season, it just feels a little crazy to be in lockdown
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when Christmas season is in full swing.
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It is.
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And for us in California, we're in a crazy lockdown as much as we were in the beginning
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of this whole COVID thing.
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And depending on what state you're in, you're facing some of that.
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I know that New York, I was reading about that in other states as well.
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You know, it's often during these times that you realize how much you really do need Christmas.
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Yeah, true.
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And I'm not just talking about some holiday as the world would celebrate it, but that
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we need Jesus, who is the real reason for the season, to bring what he brings when he
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comes.
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So interestingly enough, USA Today had an article on the 100 things that brought us joy during
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the coronavirus pandemic.
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You know what's really cool is when we were looking through that list, we just picked
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out like five things that we thought were really funny and interesting.
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And one of the things that I thought was just hilarious and I could so relate to was number
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one, not having to put on makeup every day.
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That's hilarious.
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You could throw on the mask too.
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You really only have to put on just what I stuff.
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Mascara.
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It's like, I literally for this season have just been putting on mascara because I'm like,
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I have lashes.
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Yes, that's all you see anyway.
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Right?
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And it's funny when you see people, you don't know what they really look like.
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I've actually had people say hi to me and I didn't know who they were because I'm not
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seeing their full face.
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And I go, oh, you know, then you find out how they go to church with you or their neighbor.
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You know, another thing from the list that we pulled that I thought was really fun was
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movies going to streaming services like early, like onward and trolls world tour, which was
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a hilarious movie.
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So cute.
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That was.
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And I'm super excited.
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Shout out to all the DC universe people.
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Even Wonder Woman 1984 will be coming out streaming on December 25th.
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I think it goes to theaters, but it goes to HBO Max.
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So even that movie is going to be streaming.
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So there is a joy during this time that when you couldn't go to a movies, movies were coming
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to you.
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That's pretty cool.
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And you know, it was really funny.
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Something else from the list you and I laughed about was people reported what made them really
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happy during this pandemic was being able to kick their spouses butt in skip boat, you
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know, and Yachty.
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And it's like, I think people just getting that like basic card game victory competition
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back in the house.
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I mean, we're pulling it from like the decades before.
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It's great.
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You know, another thing that we pulled from the list was businesses have been sharing
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some of their secret recipes so that you and I and the people in the nation can make
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it home.
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I see your Disneyland dough whip.
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Right.
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Right.
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Dough whip.
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I love the dough whip in Disneyland.
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And then the Double Tree Hotel actually released their chocolate chip cookies recipe for people
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to be able to make those cookies at home.
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And then the Cheesecake Factory released their Jumbalaya pasta recipe.
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That's not even right.
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Those Double Tree chocolate chip cookies, we stay at the hotel and we stay at the Double
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Tree.
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Those are dangerous.
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They're bringing out those warm cookies.
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I'm like, don't do it.
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And it's like you just inhale them.
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Oh, it's so true.
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And you love the Jumbalaya pasta because it's Cajun.
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I do.
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I do.
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That's true.
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Okay.
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Last thing off the list that we pulled, and again, this is just talking about what brings
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us joy during this pandemic was people said they really enjoyed walking through their
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neighborhood and giving their friends real estate tours on the app Marco Polo.
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That is funny.
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Is that so funny?
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You know, as we've talked about these hundred things from USA Today that brings us joy during
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the coronavirus pandemic.
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It's very interesting because I really began to realize that ultimately we cannot wait
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for our circumstances to bring us joy.
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What we need during this season, this December is to receive joy and let it act on our circumstances.
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So again, we can't wait for our circumstances to bring us joy.
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We get joy and we let it act on our circumstances.
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Speaking of articles, the New York Times recently ran an article entitled, Are We Living in
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a Post-Happiness World?
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And really this.
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Wow.
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This article was on the fact that we've experienced such a world that has been in turmoil and
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transition.
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There have been crisis.
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There's been pandemics.
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There's been protests.
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There's been political extremes.
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And they're asking the question now, are we living in post-happiness?
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In other words, is joy even possible?
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And then to back this up, a new poll found that Americans are the unhappiest that they've
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been in 50 years.
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That's two and a half generations.
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My goodness.
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I know what's really interesting is in addition to that study, we found some more interesting
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data and it said only 14 of respondents said that they were very happy, which is down 31%
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from a couple years ago when the same poll was taken.
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I mean, you know, really our focus is not about finding happiness.
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It's really about discovering joy.
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I love that because joy, particularly the joy that God gives you can make you emotionally
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radiant despite what you're facing so that you begin to shine rather than just complain
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and give into the darkness that surrounds you.
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Keep your 100.
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Our next segment is our Hondo P or 100% segment where Christa and I love to kick around some
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issues that people are facing and just share our thoughts and have a conversation on it.
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Right along these lines, we're talking about this aspect of emotional radiance or joy or
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first joy.
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Now, I say that because we're emotional creatures.
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You and I are made in the image of God and that means we are made to feel nothing wrong
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with that.
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Our Heavenly Father feels the Holy Spirit has emotions.
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Jesus had a full spectrum of responses and reactions to things that happened to him.
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Having emotions are not our problem.
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The problem is when emotions have me.
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So along those lines, Christa, what are some of the challenges people have in this season
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and particularly in the closing of this year of 2020?
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I think for me, and I think a lot of people would agree this is true for them, one of
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the greatest struggles and challenges in 2020 has been the uncertainty.
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I think like many of us, and I'm certainly, I'm answering this for myself, but I know
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I'm representing more than just myself.
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We want things that are stable.
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We want security.
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And for a planner personality like myself, I am very spontaneous.
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You know this about me and I'll flow and I'll flex.
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But when I'm having to constantly adjust and readjust and adjust again, I feel like I'm
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like I've had to be so flexible this year.
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There is such a constant need to adjust and readjust.
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And when you actually do make plans, you never know if they're going to be concrete.
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And most of the time there is some tweak in some way, shape or form.
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We haven't been able to find a sense of security on outward things.
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And so it's forced me to really dive into my relationship with God like never before
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and be like, okay, what can I stand on that is actually certain in the midst of uncertainty.
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And the only thing I've come to find is really who I am in Christ Jesus.
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That's the only certainty I have.
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And so I've been able to find joy in who I am.
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And even in the simplicity of who I am in Christ of just, I'm forgiven.
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I actually don't have to walk in shame.
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I can actually come directly to my heavenly Father, sit in his lap and he shares his heart
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with me.
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And I'm actually able to be a daughter and walk in the joy and the hope and the peace
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of my Father because he abides in me and through me.
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And that's my certainty.
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That's where I find my joy.
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I have a confidence knowing that even when things fill chaotic, God's still in control.
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Even when things are uncertain, he is certain.
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And so I have found in the midst of uncertainty, which has been my personal greatest battle
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and struggle in 2020 that I have had to find the one thing that is certain.
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And I knew that theologically I understood that.
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But when you actually have to act upon that and you actually have to live that out of
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finding joy daily and knowing no matter what comes at me this day, we've had so many blind
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sides.
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You and I personally, I'm speaking on a very personal, you and I've had so much blind side
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this year.
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And yet there has been a joy in our home because of who God is because we have just stayed
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in the place of God, you're certain even in the midst of uncertainty.
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I love that.
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And I think it's so true about uncertainty.
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When I think about the uncertainty, Christa, I think about there are many contrast racial
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charts such as the cost versus benefit, profits versus losses.
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Well, I want to introduce another chart that I just made up, the bliss versus mischart.
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And I believe uncertainty is on the missed side.
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Joy is on the bliss side.
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And when you have in your life more things that are missing, like you're missing out on
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stuff or you attempt something, you go, that was a miss because of the uncertainty.
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You find that there are more things that are charted as misses than things that you can
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look at your life that are blisses.
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And I love how you finish that segment of just saying that our bliss is found in Jesus
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and what He brings outweighs all the other things that we feel we're missing out on.
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When I think of what are some of the challenges that people have in this season, Christa,
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particularly the year 2020, I think of this has been such a year of conflict and it has
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introduced us to new levels of strife, times of strife.
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And the word strife means conflict.
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It means friction.
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It means disharmony.
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It means variance.
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And so when I think about everything from the unpredictability of a health scare that
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still has people pretty scared and there's been spikes, I think about vaccination that's
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coming up.
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Is it going to be forced?
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Will people have a choice?
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Have they really worked this thing out?
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Those stories of people that, four people I think they got bells palsy as a result of
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the vaccination for COVID-19, the stay at home orders.
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In the midst of all of it, that can cause strife.
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And then we look at the political situation, the extreme right, extreme left, the situation
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of, and has there been this voter fraud?
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To what extent has it been?
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Is it a hoax?
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Is it somebody lying?
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Again, I'm not so much trying to take a political side as much as I'm trying to identify that
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there is strife in our nation.
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And the bottom line is this, it's hard to be joyful when you're in a fight.
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I've never been in a fight smiling and laughing while I'm fighting.
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That's so good.
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You're kicking a different mode.
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And so I think a lot of people, it's hard for them to find joy because they are in the
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fight.
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But let me tell you, with all those challenges, there are a couple of things I do know about
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joy.
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And I really want to bring it to you in this Hondo peace segment and that joy promotes
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resilience.
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Just like right now, there's a lot of talk about our autoimmune system and our ability
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to fight off.
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Well, I want to say that joy is the autoimmune system of your emotions.
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That when your joy is high, you're not as susceptible to depression, disillusionment,
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anxiety, fear, because what joy does is the second thought I want to give you is joy weaponizes
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your beliefs.
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I love that you call joy the autoimmune system of our emotions.
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That brings the health of the rest of your system because you have a joy that roots you
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and grounds you when anxiety or different things try to creep in.
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It's that joy that is that antidote that keeps you in a healthy place, keeping your perspective
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and your eyes gazing on God.
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I love that.
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So I got to ask you, baby, in your opinion, then what are the differences between happiness
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and joy?
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Because I think that's important for our listeners and the keep 100 tribe to really understand
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what is the difference between happiness and joy?
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The difference of happiness and joy are pretty vast.
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Happiness is from something that we do.
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I do something and so it makes me happy.
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So when you look at it like that, happiness is something that happens to you.
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There's a cause and effect.
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So happiness is external.
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But on the other side, joy is from something God does.
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It's not from something you do because sometimes you get a chance to do it.
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Sometimes you don't.
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It's something that God does so joy is produced in you.
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It's not about what's outside, but what's inside because joy is an inside job.
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I love that.
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And you know what's really interesting when you and I were kind of talking about joy
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versus happiness, we begin to understand that the word happy comes from the root Greek word
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HAP, H-A-P, which means chance.
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It's basically saying happiness happens by chance.
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It depends on what happens.
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And for example, we find that in words like haphazard or happenstance, like you're happened
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to be in the right place, be in the right time.
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And so it's all very much just by accident.
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You're happy.
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And we all understand that that's not at all how joy works.
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Joy is not by chance.
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And so what was also really cool is we discovered in the New King James, the word happiness
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appears how many times?
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Maybe I'd guess 25 times.
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Zero.
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What?
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Well, the happiness does not even appear in the King James version of the word of God.
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But we do see joy appear how many times?
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Joy maybe 40, 50 times?
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187 times.
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And rejoice, which is also a synonym to joy, 240 times.
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So really it's talking, the word of God doesn't tell us to pursue happiness.
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It tells us to discover joy.
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You know, it's just like the movie we were watching last week.
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Yeah, I think we saw it on TV and we were doing some stuff around the house and we discovered
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that movie, um, Pursuit of Happiness with Will Smith.
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And you and I were kind of laughing about it.
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And I said to you, I go, you know what, I don't know if I really like this movie.
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It's all pursuit and it's no happiness.
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That is so true.
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And I feel like that's what happens whenever you pursue happiness, it becomes elusive.
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And in that classic Will Smith movie, he's an actor based on the real story of a guy
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that was homeless, but he finally gets a job at the end with Dean Witter, but they never
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show you what his life is like afterwards.
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And so as far as the movie goes, I love what you said, it was all pursuit, no happiness.
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And many times that characterizes people's lives.
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It's so true.
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Keep it 100 tribe, get ready.
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Cause we're about to jump into an incredible interview with one of our dear friends from
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Melbourne, Australia.
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He is a powerful man of God, a prophetic voice, a prophet in the nation of Australia.
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And we're honored to have him a part of the keep it 100 podcast, but get ready because
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there's some profound revelation that's about to be shared.
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Keep it 100 listeners.
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You are in for a phenomenal treat.
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Oh my gosh.
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I got one of my great friends from the down under Australia, but he is actually Welsh,
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Gary Morgan.
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His wife, Sarah, have founded the school of prophets in Melbourne, Australia.
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They've got two awesome children Tobias and Emma.
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So I want you guys to welcome to the keep it 100 podcast, my great friend, Gary Morgan.
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What's up Gary?
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How you doing man?
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Hey Sean.
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So good to be with you.
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Such a privilege.
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Oh bro, it is an honor to have you.
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Now I'm going to tell our listeners a story.
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First time that I met Gary, we were at a gathering with just different friends and different
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ministries of the people that are apostolic, they're young, they're prophetic.
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And then he comes over to me and he says, who is Bretton to you?
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Now okay listeners, I got to tell you, this is a place of deep divulging.
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It is my middle name.
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I'm not particularly happy about that middle name.
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I got teased a lot, Inner City Oakland.
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I promise you it's on no social media whatsoever purposely.
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And he calls out my middle name.
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Now how many people do you know with the name Bretton?
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It is an English cracker.
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So here I am, Inner City Black Man with an English cracker.
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And he began to have just incredible words and then called out and particularly the city
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that my mother lived in at the time and mentioned a unique place, Hercules.
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And said, you have an inheritance there, which was right on.
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But more than anything, it is Gary's refreshing revelatory release, his heart to propel and
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equip the body of Christ.
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And he's just a great all around dude.
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So amen, talk to us.
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Gary, man, what have you been doing lately?
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What's been going on?
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Because in Australia, explain to us how the whole quarantine COVID thing is impacting
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you guys.
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Yeah, it has.
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It's been a unique year and I think it's been a unique year for everyone.
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And interestingly, the talk is lockdown or restriction.
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And I really felt this year is a truth that the Kingdom isn't locked down.
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God's purposes isn't locked down.
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The Gospel isn't locked down.
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And so for me, it's been a year of innovation, of learning, of leaning into God.
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And so I've been excited instead of counting my restrictions, I've been celebrating my
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freedoms and so spending time with family, just being able to innovate and find inspiration
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with God and everything.
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So it's been a year we've just graduated our school of prophets.
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And so that was the class of 2020.
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I don't think there'll ever be a class like that again, but it was incredible.
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It was incredible.
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That is so awesome.
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And Gary, let's go back to your journey a little bit and we're going to in a moment
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talk about joy because God's given you a phenomenal revelation and this is his podcast and very
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needed in the season.
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But give us a little bit of your backstory and particularly how did God lay this mantle
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on you, a prophetic ministry of a prophet and you coming into ministry and just let
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us hear your backstory.
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Well, in a nutshell, as best as I can, I was raised atheist.
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So come from an atheistic family, I was raised atheist and got saved into a Baptist sort
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of brethren context on the 1st of September, 1994.
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And in a camp in West Wales, I encountered God in a way that absolutely led me to a place
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of undeniable reality.
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And so I was trying to argue with someone about the legitimacy of Jesus' faith and it
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was just a sovereign encounter.
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And I'd been known to me, the guy who led me to Christ had been praying for me and used
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this word, God has been chasing you long enough.
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Now he's caught you.
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And I remember that night, Sean just undone by the goodness of God.
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And another guy slipped in to pray for me and he was praying this word, more Holy Spirit.
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I was having an electrocution, but I was in a Baptist brethren context.
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This wasn't one known and secondly accepted.
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And so it was interesting in that context how God met me, but it wasn't until three
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years later in an Assemblies of God.
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And again, cutting the long story short, where I had the same encounter, but at that time
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was baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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Wow.
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And at that moment, I wasn't born with a birthmark on my body, my mother didn't encounter
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an angel or anything like that.
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Even though they have phenomenal testimonies, for me it was just a sovereign moment of baptism
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in the Holy Spirit that I didn't just speak in tongues, but all of a sudden I had this
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awareness that one, I couldn't explain and two, there wasn't a context for.
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And so for many months after that, I found myself in a place of confusion, found myself
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in a place of bewilderment until one day a guy called Ray Hughes, who's an incredible
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prophetic, pulled me out in a crowd in Wales and said everything that was going on in my
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heart and in my head.
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And from that moment set me on a journey really of discovering what was on my life.
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And so yeah, it's been almost 20 odd years now.
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Oh my goodness, that's just so sovereign.
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And one of my mentors always would relay this truth to me that many times in the embryonic
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stage of you coming to God, it becomes a seedbed and this kind of harbinger of how God will
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use you.
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And this to see where the prophetic impacted your life.
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And one of the things I love about you is you're a thinking Christian that's led by
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the spirit of God and I could see where the Lord has utilized this revelatory thing, but
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he's blessed you with this amazing mind and to think, you know, it's like you were raised
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to be an atheist, but you know, it crazes.
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It sounds a lot of like, I would say true atheists, not kind of the ones that jump on
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the bandwagon.
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They have let their cerebral cortex getting away, but a lot of them are great thinkers
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and we could throw out names.
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But man, if you get somebody like that saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, look out because
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of that encounter with God in that realm that just opens up.
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Gary, I saw where you did an Instagram post.
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I loved it.
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Well, you spoke on this thing of find your joy story.
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And I would love as we kind of kick off this thing on joy, because this is the time of
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year that obviously should be the most joyous time of the year.
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And obviously we, we should live in the joy as followers of Christ.
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That should be our norm.
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But from the world perspective is the most joyous time of the year, but it is also a
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season where the most suicides register.
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There's depression and they call it seasonal blues and particularly in the backdrop of
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2020 and how we've had this pandemic and people have lost jobs.
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It's affect economies.
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It's affect homes, places around the world.
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What is happening in the area of race relations or political divisions.
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But in the midst of it, God has this joy story.
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So what was the genesis of this whole aspect?
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Because I believe it's so profound of finding your joy story.
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Absolutely.
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And it was one day I just found myself in this place, probably much like many of us
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are right now seeing so much going on around us.
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And I just heard this phrase, find your joy story.
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And it was a play on toy story.
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I love that.
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And you know, we know toy story with Woody and Buzz.
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You know, it's all about that place of belonging.
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It's all about that place of identity.
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And I realized in that moment that joy is a marker of identity.
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Joy is a marker of belonging.
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You know, the Bible tells us that there's righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
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And so right standing with God gives you an environment of peace.
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The environment of peace brings an expression of joy.
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And so for me, it's that place of discovering this aspect of what is our joy story in the
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midst of whatever's happening.
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And so the genesis of that, Sean, is really out of Hebrews 12.
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And we all know Hebrews 12 is, you know, we're surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses.
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And in verse two, it says, you know, now let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and
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finisher of our faith.
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Who for the joy that was set before him, that would set there is to bring to the front,
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or is to bring to the forefront.
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And, you know, I don't want to get medical on us too much in this podcast, but joy has
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a space and a place within our brain.
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And that's at the front.
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It's at the front, you know, frontal cortex and, you know, those who've studied all the
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brain science realize that's where joy manifests.
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But what happens is, is when anxiety or fear attack the joy, joy gets pushed back and fear
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and anxiety come to the forefront.
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And I truly believe what, you know, Hebrews 12, two was demonstrating to us is the reason
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that Jesus could endure is because he brought joy to the front because everything else to
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take a backseat.
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And I think there's an invitation here in this season and every season is for the believer
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is to bring joy front and center is to cause anxiety and fear and all them things to take
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a backseat and let joy come to the front.
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Because when you do the fruit of it is endurance.
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You see, I'm all for running a race, but I don't believe the Christian faith is a sprint.
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It's a marathon.
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And so God is inviting us into a space and place of endurance.
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And we'll see that.
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So yeah, that's, that really was the genesis of that joy story.
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Man, that is so profound.
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And the neural science that you explained and even that revelation of the position of righteousness,
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peace and joy.
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And that whole thing, what, what, what do you feel in the economy of the kingdom of God?
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What would you say is the importance of joy as believers?
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What is that?
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Great question.
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I think, you know, if, if I was to hold up some cards to you or our listeners right now
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with a picture of a policeman, how do you know he's a policeman because of the uniform
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he's wearing?
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How do you know if I showed a picture of a fireman because he's wearing a uniform like
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the fireman?
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I believe that joy is the uniform of the Christian.
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As God wants us to wear joy, God wants us to walk in joy so that when people see us,
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the Bible says we'll be known for our love.
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Love is the, is the uniform.
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Joy is the accessory.
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Let's say like that.
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If love is the uniform, then joy is the accessory.
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It's the earrings.
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It's the rings.
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It's the watch.
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And so I don't want to be known for, you know, the jewelry I wear and the natural.
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I want to be known for the accessories that I have.
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And this is one of the things I love about accessories.
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It's the addition to, it's what helps.
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It's what is added to.
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And so for me is I want to be known not just for my love that I wear, but I want to be
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known for the accessory of joy.
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And that's the beautiful thing when people find themselves in hopelessness, then there's
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an accessory of hope.
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There's an accessory.
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When people find themselves in depression, there's an accessory.
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I'm accessible through joy.
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And I bring that into an atmosphere.
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And so, you know, I love it.
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What it says in scripture is, you know, I'll tell you in Luke 15, 7, I'll tell you there
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will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents.
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So we realize that joy is the fruit of salvation, not just in heaven, but I truly believe on
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earth as well.
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And so the response of salvation is joy.
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And both you and I know the day we got saved, my gosh, what a day.
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What a joy.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And you know, I love that what you're saying about accessory that people recognize that
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that is the uniform.
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That's the calling card of the kingdom.
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And I think that people, as we've seen particularly in this season, there's a fuel that people
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run on.
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Fear is a fuel.
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People run on fear.
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Guilt is a fuel.
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The starving affirmation or appetite for affirmation from others, people pleasing.
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It's a fuel.
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But one of the cleanest fuel, a given is love, of course.
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But joy, you know, even if Nehemiah is building, you know, that verse that reaps out is, the
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joy of the Lord is your strength.
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Jesus told the disciples of all things, be of good cheer, as if to say this is as much
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of kingdom, significance and component as anything else that I've taught you that you
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need to be of good cheer.
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And it's kind of like today we would think someone told us that being in a good mood,
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we'd like what?
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And but obviously joy is more than a mood.
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But man, what do you feel are the benefits of joy?
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Good question.
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Sean, I think joy for me is the ballast.
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It's the stabilizer.
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It's the open door.
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It's what attracts, you know, if someone is loading or down or and you, Mahawan, I use
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the word depressed, I realize there's clinical depression, but there's also, you know, being
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depressed and you'll see with children, children stay away from them people.
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But it's those with joy.
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And so for me is, I think there's a massive difference between joy and happiness.
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Happiness is an internal reality with what's happening from an external source.
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But joy is an external reality of what's happening from an internal source.
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And so joy is an inside job.
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And so for me, it's that stability, it's that ballast, it's that reality that no matter
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what is happening, and this is why I love Hebrews 12, 2, you know, Jesus saw the cross,
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but he brought joy to the forefront.
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And so no matter what was happening, and I think this is the invitation for us as individuals,
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but also as well as believers, corporately is, is we have an atmosphere of joy that's
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invitational.
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It's, it's inspirational, you know, when people are full of joy, it attracts.
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And you know, that's what I love about joy.
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I truly believe joy is, is that atmosphere of hope.
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Oh, it totally makes sense.
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You know, I think there's one verse, but it talks about with joy, we access or dip into
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the well of salvation.
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I feel like it's even through joy, many times that is odd as it may sound to people is for
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me, a lot of times it's through joy, I tap into the spirit of encouragement that allows
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me to prophesy.
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It's that when I begin to fill the joy of the Lord, again, the given will be love,
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follow the way of love, equal desire, spiritual gifts.
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When I find that joy, and as a guy that is done, trained people in prophetic evangelism,
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hit the streets, joy becomes such an evangelistic catalyst.
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Joy really does send out this evangelistic invitation is set in the dinner table that
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it's like, you're going through the same stuff I'm going through.
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You got downsize at your job like I do.
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You're having to homeschool your kids like I am, but how is it that you have joy and
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what is your secret?
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And people begin to ask in that, what do you feel like?
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Well, it's going to be a two-part question.
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I'll ask you in a moment, what are some reasons for our joy and even just any kind of prophetic
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sense that you may have in 2021.
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But maybe I'll begin by, what do you feel are the challenges for us this year to come
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into joy?
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Absolutely.
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I think it's summed up in James, where the writer invites us to count it all joy when
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we fall into various trials and persecutions, knowing that the testing of our faith produces.
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And so when I read that, I'm like, what do you mean?
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Count it all joy.
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And I used to keep that sort of verse on my computer.
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So when I'd get messages from pastors, I'm quitting.
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I'm quitting.
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I used to copy and paste and just send it to them as a word of encouragement.
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Count it all joy.
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Until I sat down one day, Sean, I was like, God, what does that mean?
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Count it all joy because I'm not feeling really joyous right now.
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And I hear the Lord say to me, Gary, count on joy.
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Count on joy.
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Don't just count it all joy, but count on joy because it's a chapter of the book.
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It's a joy is the book.
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What you're going through is a chapter.
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And I realize what happens is in life is we count a day as a year.
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We count a moment as a lifetime.
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And we realize that maybe us getting sacked is not the book.
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Maybe someone cheating on us is a chapter.
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It's not the book.
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It's the chapter.
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And this is one of the things.
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There's a book called joy, but a chapter, maybe you got laid off, you got sacked.
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But what we don't realize on the other side of the page is the word promotion.
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Wow.
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When someone rejects us, we don't realize it wasn't rejection.
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It was redirection.
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And I think this is what happens.
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And this is why James has invited us to count it all joy, knowing that the testing of joy
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is all joy, knowing that the testing of your faith is producing.
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This is why I love the word test, John, is because you only get a test when you've done
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a lesson.
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A lesson always precedes a lesson.
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And so whenever I get tested in my faith, it's not there to undermine me.
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It's there to prove a lesson.
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And if I fail the test, this is what I love about God.
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He puts me back in the classroom to make sure that I've learned a lesson.
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And so this is one of the things I love about the testing of our faith.
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It's not there to prove us right and wrong.
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It's there to prove a lesson.
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And so this is why I love joy is because joy becomes an environment that I get to respond
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in no matter what's happening.
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Something I used to do when I was in school and I was only bullied once in school.
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And for some reason, when this bully came up to me and started saying all kinds of things,
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I just started laughing and he didn't know what to do.
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And this is why I love.
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And I found out later why this was a reality because it's a precedent in scripture because
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our father sits on a throne and laughs at the greatest bully of mankind.
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And his name is the enemy.
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His name is Satan.
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And the greatest way to respond to a bully is to a lot is to joy.
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The greatest response of a threat is to laughing.
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And I want to encourage people in this season and I think going into 2021 is no matter what
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has happened, find your joy story.
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Friend, it's a book called Joy and the chapter might have been devastation.
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A chapter of it might have been heartache, but I'm telling you, it's not the book.
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And God is inviting us is to is not to be the author or the editor of the book, but
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to be the recipient of it and see God do some incredible things.
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I really feel Gary, even as you're sharing that, I really felt like it was resonating
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with some listeners.
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I feel like there's some people that have really been dealt some serious blows, some
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of which you don't feel like you're going to get back up off the mat.
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And I believe I love what you said that the God doesn't end your book in despair about
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God ends this thing in a sense of joy because joy literally triumph being triumphant is
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a place of joy that when you know you're going to win, thanks be to God who always leads
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us in triumph, that if you recognize that's where God is leading you, then you'll be profound
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in that area.
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Well, what do you feel like we could get joyous about looking into 2021?
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This has been some people call it the recall year, but I love what you said rather than
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focus on what you couldn't do.
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You focused on what you could do.
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Not only is that empowering, that's kingdom.
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And I look back at this year, it's been even for Christa, I one of our hardest years, most
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challenging years, but at the same time, I feel like it's been a greenhouse.
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You put a plant greenhouse, it is the environment that produces growth.
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And in the kingdom, easy times and everything flowing and growing and going like we wanted
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to are not necessarily, if I look over my life, those aren't my great growth moments.
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It's always been the times when I've been tested, I've been challenged, I've been in
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a fight.
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And it's been, like you said, great benefits of family time connecting, being unplugged
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from stuff and being able to reevaluate what is really important, what do I need to be
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doing, what don't I need to be doing.
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But I know there are a lot of people that they have the opposite of joy, which somewhere
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in there would be despair, despondency.
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And their people, as they look to this next season or next year, just what do you feel
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like as believers that you can encourage us, that you sense in kind of this next ceiling
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or what God is perhaps preparing us for or anything about 2021?
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Yeah.
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For me, it's been this season of realizing that it was more about the fruit than it was
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the gifts.
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And I remember being in Perth when lockdown first got announced and I was on the plane
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and I said, God, what is this season?
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And this is what he said to me, he said, Gary, this is going to be a season of fruits more
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than gifts.
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And we had just launched our school in Perth.
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And I'm thinking, God, what are you saying?
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It's not called the school of patience, it's called the school of prophets.
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And you're telling me it's going to be a year.
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And I realized in that moment that that prophecy wasn't going to change my children, my family,
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that it wasn't healing that was going to bring my, but it was righteousness, it was peace,
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it was joy, it was gladness, it was kindness.
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All these fruits of the spirit were there because I truly believe in this season.
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It's a season of fruits more than gifts.
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And I want to say this, it's not fruits instead of gifts.
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I think it's fruits before gifts.
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It's not without the gifts because I think as we manifest in the fruits, the gifts are
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going to be the overflow because it's that kindness that leads me to prophesy.
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It's that patience that causes me to walk with someone in healing.
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And you know, we think that the fruits of the spirit are there so that we can tolerate
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other Christians.
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They're not there for that.
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Fruits of the spirit are there for us as much as they're there for others.
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So one thing I'm learning in this season, Sean, and I think in 2021 is to learn how
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to be kind to myself, not just others, to be patient with myself and not just others,
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to put myself into a place of realizing that love is something I need for myself as well
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as I need for others.
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And so if 2020 has caused you to lay something down, 21 is going to be a year of picking
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it up in kindness, in patience, in gladness.
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And I think joy, this is what I love.
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For the fruits of the spirit, I love peace, joy.
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And so there's a verse in Romans 15, 13, I love it.
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It says, May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that by
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the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope.
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So we come to the God of hope.
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So I think joy is the transactional flow of bringing that which is spiritual into the
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abundance of that which is natural.
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Because that's what it says.
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It says, May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing so that by
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the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope.
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And so my encouragement, my invitation in 21 is what does God want you to abound in?
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And the place that you'll abound in is the place that you joy the most in, that you enjoy,
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that you find yourself enjoying.
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And that's what I love the word enjoy, because it means to be enjoy that you're not worried,
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that you're not disbared, you're not anxious.
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But like I said right at the beginning, the reality of righteousness, peace and joy, when
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you're right standing with yourself, with God, with others, it gives you peace.
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You can sleep at night.
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I truly believe it's when you're not in right standing, not just with God, but with yourself.
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You don't sleep at night.
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There's no peace.
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There's no shalom.
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But in that place of peace then, the expression of that peace is joy.
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And so in 2021, I think we got a lot to look forward to in stepping into that which God
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has seeded in this year, we're going to see next year.
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So whatever was seeded in you, and I remember the Lord once saying this to me, He said,
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Mary, whatever you want to see, you've got to seed.
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And so whatever you think is unseen, because a seed is unseen, when you put it in the ground,
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God's doing the work.
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And so get ready to see the harvest, the fruit of that which was seeded in 2020, that which
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became buried, that which became, and I love that meme.
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People thought they killed me when they buried me, but they didn't realize I was a seed.
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And so get ready, because the stone's being rolled away, and 2021 is coming upon us.
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And let me land with this if I can, Sean.
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Absolutely.
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Whenever we see in this Christmas season, and it's so beautiful we're doing this podcast
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as we're 14 days away from Christmas, is we realize whenever they announced the birthing
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of something, whenever they announced Jesus, it was glad tidings of great joy.
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John the Baptist responded in Elizabeth's womb, it says that he leapt with joy.
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And so I truly believe joy is the responder, joy is the response of what God is wanting
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to birth in us in 2021.
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So whatever brings you joy, whatever causes that joy to well up, friends, invest there,
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spend time there, camp there, because I'm telling you, God's birthing something.
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Oh my God.
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Gary's so profound.
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So tell us, Gary, how can we get involved?
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Is there any projects or any way that we could follow you get involved?
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And even please tell us about the School of Prophets, because I think you have an online
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portion, right, that people can get involved in.
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We do.
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We do.
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So 2021, School of Prophets, so we're into our sixth year.
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We've seen just under 700 students go through the school, and it's just been incredible
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of not just a prophesying in a church context, but across all spheres.
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But in 2021, we open applications on the 1st of January.
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And so for more information, you can check out schoolofprofits.org.au.
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On a personal level, you can follow me on Instagram or Facebook at Welsh Eagle, both
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on Instagram and on Facebook.
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It also is where School of Prophets is there as well.
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And so if you want more information, just check them out.
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Wow.
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I know I said some profound revelation was about to be shared, but my goodness, was that
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deep and rich or what?
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He's a deep God.
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Oh my goodness.
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I love how he talked about his revelation of the joy story, a finding joy in every story
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and every scenario of your life.
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I tell you what, you know, we really want to bring you these interviews, and we do it
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often because we know there are people that we do life with that walk in incredible wisdom
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and revelation.
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So every time we're bringing you a new voice, it's because we value what they carry.
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With what Gary and Sean shared, there's some takeaways that we want you as a Keep It 100
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Tribe to walk away.
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We're calling it three takeaways on getting extra joy.
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And so the first takeaway on getting extra is authentic joy is found in God's presence.
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Yes.
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You know, joy, it comes in the form of an embrace from God, and we all know it is nothing
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that the world can give you.
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And it's like for some of us, you know, and everyone has a different story of when they
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encountered God, but regardless if you gave your life as a little girl like myself to
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God or you gave yourself older to God, there's this marked moments where you experience the
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presence of God, no matter when that is.
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When you just, you know you've been forgiven.
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You know shame's been broken.
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You know you're a new creation in Christ Jesus and that joy that comes from the revelation
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of what he did on the cross for you, and that is such a place that it's not an emotion,
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but it's literally your inheritance as a child of God.
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And I tell you what, that is the most authentic joy, but it can only be found in His presence.
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And you know, I know we're going to jump to another one, but before we do that, I just
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want to simply add this.
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I have learned in my walk with God that there is a divine exchange that happens every time
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I'm in the presence of God.
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And I believe this is for some listeners even right now.
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You've been waiting to be inspired or how you feel to spend time with God or read the
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Word of God.
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I want you to become inspired in the presence of God when you read the Word of God, that
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you don't wait for a feeling to provoke you to go deeper in Him.
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You pursue Him regardless of how you feel, and then you go deeper with Him.
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And I believe it's the joy that is cultivated as we wait in the presence as we get into
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the Word of God, because authentic joy, we're not talking about fleeting happiness.
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We're talking about rooted and grounded in your identity in God, because it's a part
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of your inheritance.
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It's a part of what Jesus did on the cross for you that you could walk with no shame,
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no anxiety, but pure joy.
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Brilliant, brilliant.
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I love that.
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The second takeaway on getting extra joy is don't give into the dimness of a lost culture
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or a dark time.
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Come on.
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And when it comes to your joy, you have to understand there's a fight over your joy.
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You have an unseen enemy, the devil, that doesn't want you to have joy, because as Nehemiah
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said in the Bible, that the joy of the Lord is your strength.
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So if the enemy wants to take you out, he's got to go for your power source.
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So darkness wants to make you a slave to your emotion, telling you what to feel and to give
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into certain moves.
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And you have to admit, we're living in a time when we're asked to feel too much.
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We're all up in our feelings, okay?
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From that, with the fact that there's a constant flow 24 seven of fear, anxiety and depressing
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incidents that are taking place in our world today.
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But let me just say something to you as a follower of Christ.
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When you are light, you don't have to wait for a sunny day.
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So many people say, there's too many rainy days in my life.
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Well, my thing is, if you are the light, you don't have to wait for what the day brings
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you.
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You actually can act upon your world.
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And that light you bring is joy, because joy can transform your difficulty into a time
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of blessing.
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Joy, when you receive it, actually in your inward being, irresistibly calls forth joy
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in the outer world.
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So you can bring the atmosphere that you could partake of.
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So don't give into the dimness of a lost culture over a dark time.
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So good.
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Last takeaway, keep it 100 tribe is joy is something God can restore.
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In Psalm 51 12, it reads, Restore to me the joy of your salvation and uphold me by your
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generous spirit.
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You know what I love is if God can raise the dead, then he can certainly bring back your
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joy because so many of us are living, looking at our past.
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We are living with our rear view mirror.
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We are looking behind us and that's our sole focus.
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And it's like the what if, oh, I should have done this.
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I should have done that.
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We are gripped with regret and remorse.
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And I want you to know, God can bring joy because he's going to shift your perspective.
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He's going to make your rear view mirror really small and he's going to make the windshield
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of your life really big.
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He's like, come on, son, come on, daughter, turn your gaze, look at what's ahead.
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Because yes, we can learn from the past, but we can find joy in the moving forward of what
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God's promises are over our life.
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And yet we have to walk out.
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And I want you to know that in Psalm 35, it says, Weeping may endure for a night, but
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joy comes in the morning.
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You may find yourself in a night season right now, but I want to just encourage you and
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even prophesy to you that where you're at is temporary.
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That this is not your final destination.
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And although it may be going on for some time, it is simply a season and a season has a beginning
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and a season has an end.
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But I want you to know, keep it 100 tribe.
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There is joy for what awaits.
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There is joy for the promises of God.
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And there's a joy in the, in the knowing that his mercies are new every morning.
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And I want you to know that even right now, I believe some of you are going to have an
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encounter and there's going to be a divine exchange because even now as I'm talking,
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I can feel the presence of God and that God's presence is going to surround you and envelop
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you.
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And whenever we're in the presence, there is an exchange and God wants to restore everything
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the enemy has tried to rob from your life.
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The Lord God himself gets the final say.
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And I love that I'm hearing verdict overturned where the enemy overplayed his hand.
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God is coming through and restoring because that's who he is.
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And part of that restoration includes an authentic joy that you're called to wake up with excited
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about your life and excited about what God has put within you.
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That is so profound.
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My goodness.
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You know, when I think about Christmas, of course, is that classic hymn that we've sung
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called the first Noel, which literally means the first joy.
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Well, when you think about the first Noel, the first joy, you have to go back to that
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place when obviously Mary and Joseph, they didn't have a place in the end and Jesus is
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being birthed in a manger.
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But I want to switch the scene out to a pastor filled full of dirt.
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It smelled.
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It was cold in the middle of the night and there were shepherds.
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And in the midst of it, you have to understand that the Romans have pressed in on these people.
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God's people had been displaced all over.
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Certain ruler had called forth a senses that moved people out of their homes.
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And meanwhile, here's these shepherds.
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They had a dirty, lonely job for very meager wages because of their work.
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Scholars tell us they were ineligible in participating in worship at the temple.
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These were the most unlikely guys for an angelic visitation.
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But God loves to take the people that others look down on and promote them.
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And then the angel of the Lord says in Luke 2 10, and I want to speak this over you, keeping
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100 tribe, do not be afraid.
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I bring you good news that brings great joy.
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Here's the word to all the people.
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And to think in that moment, God found the disenfranchise.
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Once people had overlooked, he came in the middle of the night.
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He came in the midst of a time in which there was a political power play being made.
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He came in a time in which there was a consensus that displaced people that they were pushed
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to extremes.
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And in the midst of it, God was saying the first Noel was the fact that good news brings
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great joy.
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We're dedicating this episode to my mother because Christ and I, as we're talking about
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joy, this hits very close to home.
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Earlier this week, my mother passed in the middle of the night and we found ourselves
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in an emergency as they had her hooked up to tubes and everything.
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And she transitioned in that moment.
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And so when we're talking about joy being a choice, not based on circumstances, we're
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doing this episode even in the midst of recognizing that we choose joy and that God, this amazing
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God who sent his son for you, no matter what your position, that through a relationship
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with Christ, you can have joy.
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And the joy that he brings is not based on the things that at times can hurt you so
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much and we are grieving, we're hurting, but we also sense that there's a joy that comes
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from above.
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And so we're praying that joy over you in this season as well.
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And as you're listening today, for some of you, you might really relate to where Sean
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and I are at.
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Maybe it's been a tough week.
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Maybe you've received news you didn't expect.
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Maybe you find yourself in circumstances you didn't see coming.
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I want to pray over you as we close this episode because I believe God has an impartation.
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We choose these episodes not just by our own good ideas, but we choose these topics because
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we believe it's the topics that God wants to address.
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There's an impartation of joy that God wants to give every listener that's listening today
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because we're in a time of uncertainty and yet we serve a God who is certain.
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So Lord, I just thank you for every listener.
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I thank you for every son and daughter that you are giving at a divine exchange right
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now.
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And I just pray even right now, there is such a shift in the atmosphere that surrounds
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people.
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Lord, begin internally, shift the internal dialogue if it's not honoring you.
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And Lord, shift it to a place of where they are in a place of peace and rest and fill
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them with an infusion of joy.
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God remind them that you're going to come through.
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Remind them that it's not, you're not finished yet.
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The enemy doesn't get the final say that Lord, I thank you that every promise, every prophetic
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word that's been spoken over them will come to pass because God, you never deny your word.
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Lord, I call forth a fresh revelation of joy that is so rooted and grounded in your presence.
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And I just pray right now such a fresh release and fresh impartation, God, of your joy.
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Anxiety be broken, depression be broken, hopelessness be broken.
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And I pray an exchange happens now.
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Keep it under tribe, thanks for tuning in.
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Thanks for taking the time and spending it with us every single Tuesday.
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If you haven't subscribed and you feel like this would bless you and the people you're
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in relationship with, help us get the word out.
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Continue to share it on your social media platform.
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We know so many of you have and we're so grateful you've helped us get the word out.
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We're blessed that we're getting the response that we're getting, but we know God wants
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to continue to use this podcast to equip and disciple people.
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As always, reach out to us on social media.
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We want to hear how this podcast has impacted you.
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Keep it 100 tribe.
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You want to turn in next week.
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We want to talk about the hidden purpose of this season.
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Plus, we're going to have some surprises for you.
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So remember, relief may change your circumstance, but a revelation will change you.