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There probably hasn't ever been a time in history like this moment where people talk
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so much but say so little, where we are on information overload but a revelation deprivation.
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What does it take to possess a voice that releases heaven sound, that brings breakthrough
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and transformation and leaves the presence of God in its wake?
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Stay tuned to keep it 100 episode 4 where we will hear from David and Nicole Binyon
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as they share the genesis of their voice.
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Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa Smith.
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Join us in this space where we take on real issues with real insight under real inspiration.
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Keep it 100!
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How you guys doing?
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Good, good.
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We're so glad to see your faces and be on this podcast with you.
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So fun to have you guys.
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We love you guys and just whenever we get the chance to be around you which is not as
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much as we want, we just love who you are and what you carry.
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Your sound which we're going to be talking about your sound today and there's been such
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a surrender in your sound and you hear the surrender because it's all about its presence
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in your services.
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Well we feel the same about you guys so we're just...
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I don't know that I've ever heard someone say that about hearing the surrender in the
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sound.
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I don't think that's...
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That's key though, that's it.
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That is huge, that's so accurate.
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The total abandon we said last night revival is so...
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It's essential.
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It is essential.
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Come on, this is going to be amazing.
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Yeah.
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All right, we're going to jump in this.
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When did you first discover that God had given you this voice to worship?
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What's interesting is David and I, we're about 10 years apart in age but our stories are
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so similar as far as our gifts being discovered and used at a very young age.
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So I was like four or five years old, my mom was a singer, my grandfather was a pastor,
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my mom was our choir director so she sang in our church and so from a very young age
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she's like, Nicole, I could sing, I could sing on pitch and I was probably about five
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years old.
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I mean we had an evangelist coming through town in our little assembly of God church.
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The evangelist's wife heard that I could, found her new singing at this little four or
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five year old girl.
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And she taught me this song and had me sing it at church that Sunday night.
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So for me, I just always growing up using my gift in church and in school as well.
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So just a young age, I knew I was always passionate about singing and I always hated being in
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front of people but I just, I loved singing so much that I would just get up there like
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knees knocking.
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I love it.
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So from a young age.
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That's awesome.
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Well, you had this incredible, flawless talent from a young age but the talent itself is
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that what changed the atmosphere when she sang.
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There was like, she discovered, you always tell the story when you remember when you
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were singing, oh how do you love you and me, the first time when you just felt as a child
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the love of Jesus.
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Wow.
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Come on, her.
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And it just, it so impacted what happened when she sang.
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She discovered something in him.
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I remember hearing her as a teenager, my sister and I were traveling singing and we would
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come, they're there a little, somebody got church and she would sing and that's even
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at 11 and 12 years old, we were astounded how the atmosphere changed when she sang.
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Wow.
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So she already carried this.
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Right.
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So here's this gift, here's a talent, it's recognized by everyone around you.
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You're constantly being like told in a great way, you're like, you're so gifted at this.
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And then there's this moment where you actually release it and you discover, wow, God's in
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this because they shift when I sing.
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So is there a specific moment that when that first recognition within yourself of like,
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God shifts things through me when I use my gift for him, my voice for him?
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You know, I think I probably didn't realize that God's using me to shift the atmosphere.
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I just remember just.
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God's shifting you.
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Yes.
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Oh, that's so good.
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Being able to sing like how it connected me to the Lord and how I, I was just felt the
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love of Jesus and knowing his love, feeling his love and being able to connect to him
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through my voice.
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I think it just, it marked me from a young age and kept me on a path of pursuing Jesus.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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For me, I was marked by God from the earliest memory I have.
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I don't have a memory in my life that I wasn't aware of him.
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I remember three years old and I watched a leg grow out.
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Wow.
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And so I'm just a kid watching this miracle happen as a child, not even really knowing
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how to get my mind around it.
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I just knew it was, I knew he was there and I just, I would always weep when I sensed
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it.
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As a little child, I'm weeping not because it's a miracle, but because I know it's
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him.
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I know he's real.
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Every season of my life, just a breath, focusing in his direction and suddenly he's there.
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And so it was just for me, but I grew up in an era where before there was a worship genre
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and we lived here in the South and we sang Southern gospel music with my family and all
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of our songs were about going to heaven.
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I love that.
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When we all get to heaven, what a day, every joy, every, I'll fly away, oh boy.
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All of the old hymns and they were always about going to heaven.
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So I was, I think I was 15 when I was in a church in Kentucky and it was like very traditional
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Pentecostal kind of old, hammy church.
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And for the first time they'd sang all these songs, but at the end of their worship set,
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and it wasn't even called a worship set.
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They started singing for the first time in July.
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They started singing O come let us adore him.
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And I'm 15 and the atmosphere shift.
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And I was like, okay, what?
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I couldn't even get my mind around it yet.
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Now again, I've always known the presence.
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My mom and dad could peel the pain off the wall with their prayer.
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It was like, I always knew the presence because they walked in the power of God.
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And even in those services you would sing and you'd get going fast enough and it's all
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Pentecostal and you would get goosebumps and you think goosebumps are the measuring line
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that this is the anointing.
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But in this moment at 15, I was like something turned for me and I didn't even know what
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to do with it.
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We traveled in a gray hand bus.
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I remember everybody's, I don't know where everybody is on the bus by myself and I've
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been reading my Bible and I remembered what happened in surfacing out before and I put
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my hands on these little closet doors and I'm standing there and I just start singing
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Oh come let us adore me.
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Oh come in the wind of God came.
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And it wrecked me.
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I didn't want to move because I thought if I moved a finger it would go and I wanted
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to stay in this presence.
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And so I just began to practice that privately for months.
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I still didn't know how to translate it to our, when we all get to heaven services.
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Right, because it was different.
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It was a whole different world.
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But I remember we went to this one church and it seemed like it was like the deadest
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church.
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You know it's like you sing all the high songs and the fast songs and push all the buttons
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that make people respond.
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Well none of those buttons were working in this particular service.
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But meanwhile privately I've been walking in this exchange with the Lord on a daily
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basis and more out of desperation than anything else.
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I just needed His presence in this service and none of my family knew what I was going
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to do.
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I was the youngest but I'm playing the piano.
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And so I just closed my eyes and hit this key and started singing for the first time
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in church for me.
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Oh come let us adore me.
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And my family found harmony and started singing along and I opened my eyes and what had been
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dead church suddenly an entire congregation.
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It's on their feet caught up in this.
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Wow.
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And I'm like I'm 15.
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Oh my.
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And I'm like this is why I'm on the planet.
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Wow.
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That's awesome.
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Wow.
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And so with that I had started writing music but I was writing all of these going to heaven's
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arms.
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Right.
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You'll never hear any of those songs.
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But I started writing worship music.
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It took me a couple years before I started doing that because I started I had to walk
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through this process.
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Right.
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And the Lord just started shipping it for me.
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And so I started writing these songs.
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Even at 18 I had this one song that I wrote called Ode for a Thousand Tongues that became
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like Song of the Year.
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And it was it was a song that God would use as a tool to open doors for us.
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That's a phenomenal song.
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And it was it was but it was it's like I realized God you really do inhabit the praise of your
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people.
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And I remembered there was an old him over a thousand tongues to sing.
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And so I wrote a modern version because I said God this is how I feel.
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If you will show up for me all by myself what would happen if I had a thousand tongues and
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use every one.
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If one gets me here what would a thousand where would that get me.
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And so it just became my passion and it like it set my course.
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I love that.
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I love that as you begin to shift the worship from the heavens that will be in heaven one
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day so it's to exaltation.
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Totally.
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And I feel like you guys are such a great model of worship that exalts.
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We have worship that is responding to God.
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Our emotional response to God.
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There's nothing wrong with those.
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But there I can always tell the difference in a service when the when the songs we're
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singing are songs of exaltation.
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They're relational.
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That's right.
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And so there's a total shift in the atmosphere when we shift from I feel this way I feel
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this way I feel this way to God who are you.
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I'm declaring who you are in my circumstances in the situation because you never change.
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Your character is the same yesterday today and forever.
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And when we take a posture of just declaring who God is despite how we feel everything
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shifts but you to model that exaltation worship so well which I guess leads me to my question
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number two for you guys.
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How did you guys discover your sound together because you discovered it individually now
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your husband and wife now you're leading together.
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What did that look like because let's call it the Benyans sound.
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There's a distinct sound the Benyans have like I can hear it.
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I've heard your songs on the radio.
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I've heard your songs for years.
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Oh that's the Benyans like there's a sound you have that God has released through you
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guys and how did you discover that what's the process because again we're talking about
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the genesis of a voice.
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How did that process come through in your worship together as husband and wife.
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Yeah well I would say musically just like musical influences in the church I think you
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know both of us when we got married we were David was a pastor at our church outside of
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Chicago very diverse congregation and the music of the church was had a gospel flair to it
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so I feel like that part of our sound like that soulful gospel sound just because of
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just how we were influenced and when we discovered that exuberant expression in the church like
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our we I think we kind of came alive then you know we're married for a few years we
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have this experience we in the presence of God that just wrecked us you know through
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really one of our spiritual fathers Tommy Tinney he came through to our church and just put
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us on a path we end up you know resigning our position at that church we end up going
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to just a full time itinerant ministry and did for a few years just did a ton of meetings
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with Tommy Tinney who at that time you know God was using he was writing a book called
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the God Chasers and so we were going all over the nation David went to a few other countries
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with Tommy and facilitating I mean just the hunger of God's people and so we were just
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I mean those days those few years of services where we're just in the presence of God for
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hours I feel like that is what develop are really the sound of worship that comes out
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of us.
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Let me let me say like this because what we encountered we knew the press we knew the
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anointing right up in an experienced and anything you can imagine in terms of miracles that
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talked about that my dad was the even evangelist I remember is 13 and it's on my dad raised
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the debt so I've been around the anointing but I had never known the glory and the realm
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of glory is such an incredible death it's Tommy Tinney always taught us is the anointing
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will enable you but the glory will disable you and when Solomon dedicated the temple
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the priests were unable to minister because of the cloud when the glory invaded our church
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I it was frightening and I remember climbing under the piano.
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You know the story of the piano afraid to move and I was there for five hours and it
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felt like 20 minutes but it messed me up but what happened is when I got up I had no song
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in my arsenal that was appropriate for what we were experiencing and so out of that came
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the prophetic.
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Yeah, right.
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There were no songs so I had to just like we would for there were months that the glory
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was in the church and we would drive on the property and I drive into his presence and
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it's like you didn't have to start over you just pick up where you left off and it was
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like all of my planning was inappropriate for the glory that was there so I had to shift
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and figure out how to navigate that that has been the driving force it's been the carrot
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and fun of the race horse that drives us because it's like every time we have worship there
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have been I don't know that I've ever encountered the same degree as I did that first time there
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are moments when maybe there's a 30 minute window so every time we go into any session
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any worship set were like could this be the day you come again and do that and reveal
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yourself like that again and so it's like it's what gives us the authority to worship.
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You know there are people that sing songs and learn arrangements and do and they're
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anointed right.
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So the anointing enables the glory disables and for me it's all about the surrender.
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Yeah right.
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It's those years were really that when you talk about the sound of surrender that's
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when that was hewn out.
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I mean that's you know those those years of plan for it right you couldn't prep for it
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other than your prep was surrender.
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I didn't mean to cut you off.
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No, no that's that's it.
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That's really the sound of surrender was really developed in us over those few years and you
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know we've had we'll have like you know occasionally a husband and wife who lead worship together
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like how do you and David flow together like this and how do you know we want to be able
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to do that.
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I'm like you know it was really those few years of just being in those services together
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and not just and just dive in it.
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So what's it called the friend fall the trust the trust.
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It's like you get to this place you're like God I don't know if this is going to work
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right but I'm going for it right and you just dive in thinking you're going to make you're
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going to look like an idiot but then suddenly God gives you totally the moment.
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Like I remember coming to Vegas and I don't know if you were on staff at the time when
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we came at international church of life.
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And I wrote on the spot jumping the river.
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It was it was one of these moments.
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I was there for that.
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So what happened is I were leading worship that night and I feel like it's the glory
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it's the carrot it's the God I feel like we're at it.
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These people are almost to the dropping off spot.
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And if I just knew how to nudge them and in this whole congregation is going to fall into
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that place.
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And so while I'm there these lurches just start coming out of me.
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I sit at the edge of the river where the water is shallow and safe and I can still keep my
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balance or get out if they make any way.
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I love to come to the river be refreshed from the sun and the heat but just standing here
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is getting me nowhere.
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I keep hearing a call from the deep.
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I think I'll go ahead and jump in.
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I surrender my body and soul.
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I'm losing my inhibitions.
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I've decided to give up control.
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And every every sentence came then the next one came.
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If I sink if I swim I just want to get to him and I just started jumping and then the
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place.
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Oh, I remember.
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They just ran to the front and at one point it's just chaos.
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It's divine chaos.
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It's this pathetic moment.
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And then all the young people are over on this side of the stage.
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That's a real high stage.
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And for those of you on the podcast I'm pointing to my left.
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And I see them and they look at me and they kind of we kind of read each other's minds
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and I look at them and they not like they knew what I was about to do and I ran and
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dove.
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I remember this.
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And dove off the stage.
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Off the stage.
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It's like a six foot stage.
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And they caught me.
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I was like, oh my God, this is going to be really good or really bad.
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Talk about a test fall.
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The prophetic gesture brought this but it was the risk.
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It was always I never let myself contemplate the notion when it comes I just trust fall.
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I'm like, okay, here I go.
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And it's not again, it's not about the voice.
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It's the voice within the voice.
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It's not about the sound, although it is, but it's sound within the sound.
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I think what's cool is the sound within the sound.
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You know, it still comes through me as an individual, David as an individual.
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However, the worship leader is, it's like it is the sound within the sound, but it comes
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through this vessel.
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So that's what's so cool about the unique sound of different worship leaders and different,
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you know, when God speaks for me, this is this is how I describe it.
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When God speaks and you see picture, then he lets me use my vocabulary to describe the
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picture.
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Right.
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So that's that's how we get to co-labor with him and partner with him.
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Kind of.
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It's so powerful.
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I mean, I'm getting rocks here.
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I mean, it's just what I love is you guys were fashioned in the glory of God.
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I mean, your sound was fashioned.
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I mean, and that's the marking point, right?
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Those are the markers that when we have those encounters with God shifts from just a nice
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service with total sincere hearts.
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Like we show up and like, cool, we're worshiping God.
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Then all of a sudden we begin to exalt, we begin to declare, we begin to prophesy out
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of the spirit of God within us.
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We begin to declare what he's saying at that moment in that meeting as we gather.
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Holy spirit falls, glory of God falls.
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You find yourself under a piano for five hours, which feels like 20 minutes.
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You're on the floor, songless is out the door.
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I mean, because there's nothing in us to be able to articulate or to worship this in this
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moment because we don't quite know what to do because we know we're in a realm that's
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not of the natural.
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We're in a realm of the spirit.
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And so again, I said at the beginning, but there's an ability of your maturity, but again,
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we discovered how that happened.
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There was years of you just willing to go to unknown territory to look foolish, to not
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be in control, to just surrender, whatever it looks like.
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You're like, I don't care.
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And your constant push for the more of God comes from previous encounters, which leads
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us to more encounters, right?
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So how do you teach the next generation this?
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We have this upcoming generation that's a worship generation.
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I mean, we've seen worship ministries that have had an influence of sounds and gathered
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people at stadium levels to worship, just to worship because there's such a cry to worship.
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People love music.
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They love to worship.
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But there's a shift from just a worship song service, which can still be anointed.
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But I feel like done are the days of just a nice song service.
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We have to have more.
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You guys represent the more.
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How do you translate that to a generation?
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Because maybe a lot of people don't know if your daughter Gracie sings with you.
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And she's incredible.
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She's written one of my favorite songs.
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I mean, I had it on repeat.
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And she's the sweetest person.
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She's just, she's really special.
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I mean, that's the best way to describe her.
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She's really special.
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So you guys have modeled that in your family, but you're also called to raise up a generation
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of worshipers, not just leaders, not just worship leaders.
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I'm talking about there's only a handful that are going to be worship leaders.
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Right.
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But how do you raise up a generation that love to worship?
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But you, you take them beyond the set and you bring them to a place of the surrender,
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of the, of the glory.
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How, how do we do that?
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Well, our main passion in life and this season of our life is we are now mom and pop to a
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generation of young people.
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And what's interesting is like when we launched our church, all the kids call me Papa David.
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I love that.
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But just what we've done is just made ourselves available.
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It's like we really open up our heart and we just be accessible to them and walk it out.
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I know for me, the way I found the places I would, I would be with people.
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I remember as a kid, always wanting to be around the adults or the pastors and hear
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their conversation.
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And so when they didn't even know I was listening, but I would just, I was so intrigued because
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I was hungry for more.
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Right.
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I was hungry for the more and I didn't even know what the more was.
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And then I remember when, when Tommy Taney came to our church, I went to, over to the
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pastor's house, he was staying over there and I just like, I asked him, can I just come?
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I just want to be around you.
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I just need to be around you.
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And I need to know what you do.
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I need to know how you do your life.
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I just want to be near you.
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And he just embraced me and why don't you just go with me to Iceland?
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I got a tip.
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Why don't you just go with me?
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And I remember he was in the process of writing God Chaser.
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He'd give me chapters to proofread.
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And there were times I had to like on a plane and I had to like run to the bathroom and
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close the door so that I could heave and cry.
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So people wouldn't think I'm having a nervous breakdown because I was so wrecked.
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So for me, he did that for me.
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I see these young and not just music people, but I just see people, I don't know, when
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God gives you the mandate, you don't even have to strive.
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It's like you're like a magnet and it pulls people.
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And when they come to you, you just love.
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And so I try to be in close enough relationship that they just see it.
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They must see me per se.
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The sound of surrender and those moments of prophetic flow or whatever, that does not
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come without a life of surrender.
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So like when you're walking this out on a platform, while we're going through that process of
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God doing this in us, we also, I mean, like we stepped away from all financial security.
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We had a four month old baby.
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You're like totally living this trust fall with the Lord in just complete surrendering
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our life.
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So really showing and teaching this generation, like it just doesn't happen on the stage.
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It has to happen in your heart and in your life or it to overflow out of you.
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It's like, well, you know, even with our kids and we have a 22 year old son is about to
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be married and, you know, we're having this conversation the other night.
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You know, just the intensity of just like real life and responsibility.
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He's feeling the weight of that, you know, we're like, this is when you really get to
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dive into like trusting the Lord, knowing the Lord for yourself.
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Like you're working as hard as you can.
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You're doing all this thing.
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You're doing the best you can.
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You commit, you bring your time to the Lord, you know, but then you just, you just trust
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him.
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You put your faith in him.
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And so it's like, this doesn't just apply, right?
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To singers and musicians and people who are, but it's really walking it out and coming
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to the place of as parents, it's hard to, you know, see your natural kids and your spiritual
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kids kind of walk through this sometimes and like the loneliness or the friends falling
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away.
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You know, and it's like, God, if you just lean into the Lord in this season, you know,
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he's going to do something so special in you.
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Well, the truth is you talked about the people, the friends that fall away because you, you
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live in this place.
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And unless someone has had a similar encounter, they have no clue what you're talking about.
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And so they just kind of like treat you like you're almost just, you feel isolated.
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Right.
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And it took years of walking this because of the relational encounters that we were having.
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And the proof was always in the pudding, but it was like, it wasn't in the relationship.
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There were a lot of lonely years of walking this out and people thinking you're nuts.
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Right.
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But now you've got this legacy and people are like, how do we do this?
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How do we do this?
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Right.
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And it just cost everything.
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You know, I love what you guys are saying.
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You're saying so many jewels, but a few things that are just sticking out that I felt like
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just even for our listeners, they're a really great takeaway.
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The sound of our voice and what we release has to come from a place of surrender, has
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to come from a place of encounter.
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There has to be a time where we step beyond just the routine and the planned and the normal
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and we get into a place where we just say, God, whatever it looks like, we don't care.
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We just need you.
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And then we have to teach the next generation a posture of surrender and they're going to
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have their own sound.
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We're not trying to have them duplicate the sound, but we can model how to get that sound
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for themselves.
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We can model surrender.
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We can model surrender and you can model that trust ball.
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You can model the faith as you guys were talking about, but it has to come through allowing
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people into your life.
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Yes.
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Right?
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Oh yeah.
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And you have to make space for people to get into your life.
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You have to be able to have a space for people that's so busy, so demanding and we're pretty
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private.
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It's like having a relationship, letting people into your life.
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It's risky.
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It takes time.
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It's inconvenient.
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Right.
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But we have a spiritual responsibility and I'm actually going to take it to a more, maybe
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a more positive place in the word responsibility.
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We have a gift to be able to share with the generation.
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What I love is I'm here.
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You guys have had people in your homes.
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You've opened up your lives.
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You've had the late night conversations.
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You've been accessible.
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You've had a space on the platform for people as well.
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Yes.
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That's it.
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And I feel like that's so huge for the next generation.
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If we want people impacted because we can look at the next generation going, man, they
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need an encounter.
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We have to show them.
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What does that look like?
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We have to model how that happens.
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And again, theirs is going to look different, but you guys have done that so well.
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I mean, I've seen it in your family, but I've also seen you last night even just and that's
504
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not the first time.
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Of course, I've been around you guys with, I've seen that every time for the last, what
506
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15 years I've been around you guys.
507
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,880
You've always had other people on the platform with you.
508
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It's never just been you guys.
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It's always been a company of worshipers saying, come on, let's do this together.
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Let's go after the more God.
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I love that.
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I want to jump in too, Nicole.
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You said something so powerful because I feel like sometimes what is showcasing this generation,
514
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you know, that it's the famous, the selfie you address is what they portray on the platform.
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But you were saying it's really your lifestyle, that it's what God has done privately in your
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heart that you walk out day in and day out highlights in that moment what happens on
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the platform.
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That was so profound.
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That principal, H.W.
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Tozer said, if you don't worship Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
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Wednesday, Saturday, what do you do on Sunday?
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Say that again, David.
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Say that again.
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If you don't worship Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, what you
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do on Sunday is not worship.
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Because we've made it.
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What is worship?
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Well, that's what we do on Sunday.
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We sing three fast songs and two slow songs.
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Worship has to do with the song list we do at Church on Sunday.
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That's not worship.
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That is a vehicle that we get to ride in with our worship.
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But it's always been the posture of one's heart.
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It's this.
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You've said worship is the sound our life makes.
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You know, anytime the Lord asks you to step out and do something, right, it's, I mean,
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it's scary, it's a walk of faith, it's sometimes lonely and that's tough.
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But it's like just, that's when he becomes everything.
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You know, last night as we were having our dual revival service and Dante Bo was here
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with us and he was leading and he was saying, Jesus, you're not just the main thing.
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You are the one thing.
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You are everything.
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I remember when we were traveling, while it was amazing, we were experiencing this stuff,
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you know, in these Tommy Tent, you know, these God chaser meetings and we're just experiencing
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the Lord, but God was doing such a work in me.
546
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I was so miserable half of the time because here we are traveling with this baby.
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I'm leaving my family.
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You know, I was in my early twenties and just lonely.
549
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I mean, there are times, but it was like, that's like, my parents can't fix this.
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My husband, who's an amazing husband, can't fix this as far as like my heart, my loneliness
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of my heart.
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Right, right.
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And Jesus truly became, and I know we're the body of Christ and we need each other.
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So I know we need each other, but at the end of the day, if all I have is Jesus, He is
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everything I need.
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And it's, but it's that season of discovery of that.
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I mean, there's no other way to get around it.
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Right.
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There's no other way to guess at that point.
560
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It's the process of making Him first.
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And that means if He has to do it, He will eliminate all of those distractions out of
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your body so they can't be the only thing that matters.
563
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
And then of course, God brings you beautiful.
564
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It's like, what's the past scripture?
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We'll get a hundredfold in this life, but the thing is what we give up, what we give
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up, God gives back to us.
567
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Yes, it's the pruning.
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And it is the pruning.
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He gives back to us in relationships and He gives back and then suddenly you have sons
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and daughters that you're pouring into and you're watching and you're empowering them.
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You're giving them a place to make mistakes, not chastise them too much if they make mistakes,
572
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but just I'd watch them learn from making mistakes how to make things right.
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Instead of telling them you did it wrong, I let them come to me and I messed up.
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And then I say, no, it's okay.
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Just let this teach you.
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So I love being able to help shape people and walk them and make them give them self-worth
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and empower them to be what God's called them to be and speak like into them.
578
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I just seen the power of declaration at work.
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So powerfully guys.
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That is.
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00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Hey, this question I'm super excited about.
582
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What advice would you give your younger self?
583
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Such a good question.
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Okay, on a practical level, don't spend money you don't have.
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Say that.
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That's good.
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That's good.
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Don't spend money you don't have.
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00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000
It's a practical level, but it impacts everything right?
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Even impacts our ability to say, okay, Lord, I'll follow you wherever whatever you I mean
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it can impact.
592
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Sure.
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00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520
I'll follow you Lord, but I got all this debt.
594
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Yeah, because it ties you down.
595
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Yeah.
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00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,520
It constricts you.
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Absolutely.
598
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,520
Yeah.
599
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,080
And I think for me on a spiritual level, I feel like I always struggled of not feeling
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worthy of the call or worthy of the platform or work.
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00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,040
So while I do know, like I see the humility in that, but I do feel like there are a lot
602
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,440
of times and moments in my life that I struggled just because I didn't feel worthy or good
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enough.
604
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Sure.
605
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
606
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,440
And so I, you know, like Nicole, you're worthy of this.
607
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Absolutely.
608
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,440
Yes.
609
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920
And simply because this the Lord called you to it.
610
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160
So you're worthy to be in any room that God puts you in.
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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,400
You're worthy to be on any platform that God puts you in.
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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,400
I love that.
613
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,400
That's amazing.
614
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
I think so many people struggle with that.
615
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Right?
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00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Because we judge ourselves not from how God sees us, but how we see ourselves.
617
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Right?
618
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,560
So we're always going to come up short with that measuring stick.
619
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Yeah.
620
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,360
And so when you get that revelation of, no, I'm worthy simply because God called me in
621
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360
his story.
622
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,640
God doesn't call me for my lack.
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00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,160
He calls me from who he sees me.
624
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Yeah.
625
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Sees me as.
626
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Yeah.
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00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,160
I love that.
628
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,160
It's huge.
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Okay.
630
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,160
What you got.
631
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Come on, David.
632
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Just say yes.
633
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Just say yes.
634
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Yeah.
635
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,800
And then you can drag your feet.
636
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Don't give yourself the opportunity to talk yourself out of what you feel God saying,
637
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,320
even if you're not sure it's him, just say yes.
638
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760
I learned how to hear him.
639
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,280
There was this one point where I felt God was speaking to me and I'm just a kid, but
640
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,960
I'm in church and I feel like God's giving me a word and I just don't even know what
641
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,960
to do with it.
642
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,320
And then all of a sudden someone across the room starts giving the exact word and I left
643
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,040
defeated thinking, God, I didn't obey you.
644
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,960
And then my mom encouraged me and she gave me a scripture that said the prophets are
645
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,240
subject to the prophets and I didn't understand that, but it felt right.
646
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240
And so I was like, okay.
647
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,440
But then I got to this other point again where I felt God was saying something to me and
648
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,760
I was like, I remember making this decision.
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00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,040
God, I don't know if this is you, but I think it's you and I want you to know that I'll
650
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
say yes to even what I think is you.
651
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,560
And so I spoke out what I thought God was saying and it kind of felt flat, but it was
652
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,560
okay.
653
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
I felt like I did the right thing.
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00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,840
Nobody, we didn't have the Pentecostal response when I said it.
655
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,400
But then the next time there was the stronger unction to say it.
656
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,360
I'm like, and I already made the decision.
657
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,000
I'm just going to say it.
658
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,720
And again, I'm not even fully aware of what I'm doing except I'd given it in my yes
659
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:54,560
and I would just say it and then there was the stronger and I get the Pentecostal response.
660
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,560
But so it's like the more I would hear his voice that are his, the impression of God,
661
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,720
maybe not an audible voice, but the impression and I would just more I gave myself to it
662
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,560
and would respond then the clearer it became.
663
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,960
And I realized even how it comes, it doesn't come from me.
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00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,960
It comes through me.
665
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Yeah.
666
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,920
I always love when you share that about hearing the voice of God and obeying because so many
667
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,720
people, I'm sure you guys heard this question so many times, how do you know it's God and
668
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:23,920
how do you know?
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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,880
And I love it when you share that because I think it's so teachable to like, okay, God,
670
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,280
my heart is, if I think this is you, I'm going to obey.
671
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,200
And usually it's a matter of just laying down our own pride, right?
672
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Man, if we haven't told you guys already today, you're amazing.
673
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:47,320
And honestly, your wisdom and what you, I mean, what you guys brought was this rich life
674
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,680
that you've lived for God.
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00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,080
And we got these snippets of just, right?
676
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,760
This access to your story and your journey, which not only bless me, I know it's going
677
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,440
to bless our listeners, but I feel like if we grab ahold of what you guys shared today,
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00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,320
lives will be changed, transformed because it's all about the surrender.
679
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
It's all about the yes.
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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,840
At the end of the day, we have one life to give for Jesus.
681
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,840
Let's give it everything.
682
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,840
Right?
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00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,680
He's so worthy of it all.
684
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,120
You guys are obviously pastoring, dual church here in Texas.
685
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,320
Is there any way that people that are listening can get in contact with you or any kind of
686
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,600
project that you guys have coming up that we could support you guys on?
687
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Yeah.
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00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Well, David and I, earlier this year in 2020, before pre COVID life, we released a brand
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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,480
new worship album called the glory of Eden.
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00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,480
That's available.
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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,160
It's available on all digital platforms, you know, Apple Music Spotify, all the places.
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00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,120
We have dual church Dallas YouTube channel, dual church Dallas, you know, Facebook page,
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00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,800
dual.church is the website.
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00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,920
I found number, he has.
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00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,240
PayPal donations.
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00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:00,240
Right.
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00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:05,000
But you know, God's doing something beautiful here and it's exciting.
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It's another season of yes for us and just stepping out and just going, okay, God.
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But yeah.
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You tricked us.
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00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,400
You guys have done an incredible job gathering a community of worshipers and people that
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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,160
just want the more of God.
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00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,160
So thanks for your guys.
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We love you guys.
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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,160
You guys are awesome.
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Oh man.
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Thanks for taking time with us and just talking with us.
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We love you guys so much.
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00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,280
This is so great.
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00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,720
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