April 18, 2023

"How To Process Your Pain & Handle Heartache" S4 Ep8

The player is loading ...
Keep It 100 with Sean & Christa Smith

Whether you saw it coming or not, the feeling is the same: You’re devastated. You gasp at your vulnerability and wonder, “Why did this happen?” Emotional pain is an inevitable part of life. Knowing that, doesn’t seem to make it any easier...

There are many things we do not have control over in life that cause us emotional pain. The death of a loved one, job loss, a breakup . . . these are things that happen to us randomly and without warning. What’s worse, is that we cannot do anything to change what happened after the fact.

What we can do in these situations is identify and focus on what we do have control over. In this episode of "Keep It 100", we have a pivotal conversation on how to recover when Life seems to crush you and people seem to make decisions that devastate you. There are some principles shared that can revolutionize your life!

Website: www.seanandchristasmith.com

Facebook: @seanandchristasmithministries

Instagram: @revseansmith @mrschristasmith

Twitter: @revseansmith

Transcript
1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,760
Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa Smith.

2
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,480
Join us in this space where we take on real issues with real insight and real inspiration.

3
00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,780
This podcast is for those not looking for temporary relief to change circumstance but

4
00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:19,360
revelation to forever change lives.

5
00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,640
Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100 with Sean and Christa Smith.

6
00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,200
It's your boy Sean.

7
00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200
My favorite.

8
00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,480
Hey, we're so excited to be with you.

9
00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,520
We have a unique episode before we dive into the topic and I'm going to break down kind

10
00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160
of what that looks like for today's episode.

11
00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,160
But we have some really fun highlights that we just kind of want to share with you guys

12
00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:43,200
of what we've been up to since we were together last.

13
00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,200
Yes.

14
00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560
One of the things is that we went across the pond.

15
00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,880
Everybody went to the UK, went to London.

16
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,640
We were able to do a conference over there for our great friend, Tomi Ariomi.

17
00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320
And we were with the Feather Stones, which are great pastors over there.

18
00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800
We're a phenomenal church.

19
00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,800
Yeah, amazing people.

20
00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,640
And the conference was so fun.

21
00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,760
We saw God do some just some powerful things.

22
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,360
We got a chance to get over and take pictures in front of Big Ben, went down the Tams River.

23
00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,360
That's how they would say it.

24
00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240
I would say it phonetically, Thames, but they don't pronounce their H's.

25
00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,400
And it was so cool because up and down that little Tams River, it's kind of for us like

26
00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,360
Pier 39 in San Francisco.

27
00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,360
Yeah, it is.

28
00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,880
And so we got some great food over there, hung out, saw some sites and it's just so cool

29
00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,480
because although we speak the same language, we don't.

30
00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,640
Yeah, it's a totally different world over there.

31
00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,920
And you know, it's cool because I've been exposed to UK culture for years, ministered

32
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,040
in Ireland and different places around the UK, but never myself in London actually ministered.

33
00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,360
So that was my first time.

34
00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,880
And I just kind of prepared myself for a little bit more quiet congregation, not super interactive

35
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,880
or responsive.

36
00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800
And I found quite the opposite.

37
00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,600
I was like shocked of how fiery this remnant group has really gathered in London and we

38
00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,120
really are seeing it around the world.

39
00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,880
And it's so exciting because I feel like people are going beyond cultural norms and they're

40
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,480
tapping into kingdom.

41
00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,320
And there's this really beautiful hunger that is across the board that we're seeing no

42
00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,160
matter where we go, no matter what country, no matter what congregation, people are not

43
00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,840
staying in the boxes anymore.

44
00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,680
I feel like people are shattering boxes.

45
00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,520
Yeah, they were definitely not lethargic.

46
00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,520
They were lit.

47
00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,520
They were lit.

48
00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000
They were so fiery, packed out.

49
00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,480
All the meetings were powerful, just the prophetic, just the healing.

50
00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,480
It was so cool.

51
00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,960
We got a chance to stay at a nice little inn that you got to just eat a good meal together

52
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,960
there.

53
00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,960
It was fun.

54
00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,320
Look out over kind of, I don't know, a pastor, a golf course or something out there was a

55
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,320
field.

56
00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,320
So it was, it was, it was cool.

57
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,360
We got a chance to get some good food there.

58
00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,000
And it was just a great time.

59
00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000
It was amazing.

60
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,480
It just felt like we did our assignment.

61
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,760
And then I came home right after that, jumped right into a Bethel women's conference called

62
00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,760
wonder this year.

63
00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,960
And Havala, who's just an amazing woman of God, I just so love what she carries.

64
00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,040
She invited myself, Elisa Bavir, and then a ton of women that are on Bethel staff that

65
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,720
are just powerhouses in their own right.

66
00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,680
I mean, they're, each of them could be like carrying a conference.

67
00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,280
They're just incredible women of God.

68
00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,000
And there was probably like 10 of us that were speaking that they had the day sessions

69
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,960
and I had a two of the night sessions and it was incredible.

70
00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,000
I mean, I, I felt like we had a freedom in the room during my session that was just special.

71
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760
It was so unique.

72
00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,520
I feel like what God is doing with women is, it really is the word special.

73
00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,520
It's just different and it feels like such an honor just to be able to witness God raising

74
00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,120
up women in the sour.

75
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,840
And there was a roar and a sound and a release and a freedom that I have not seen hit a room

76
00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,840
before.

77
00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,360
That was just incredible.

78
00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,280
I really feel marked and changed from that gathering at wonder.

79
00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,680
And so I came home raving about it to Sean.

80
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,720
It was like, I always want him at everything with me.

81
00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,520
Well, even before you did, I, we have so many great friends up in Bethel, Redding.

82
00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,520
They were hitting me up.

83
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,640
I was in Huntsville, Texas, reaching out to university students.

84
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:05,200
And so they were hitting me up and just talking about how your session, God just came down,

85
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,200
blew it up.

86
00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,440
If you guys want to go to Christa's Instagram account, Ms. Christa Smith, you're going to

87
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,440
see some clips if you go back and it was just amazing.

88
00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,440
There was a point in time where the women just erupted and just went straight wild.

89
00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,760
It was, it was, it was awesome.

90
00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,760
It was awesome.

91
00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,480
And then I loved as I was ministering in Bethel, you were down, like you said, in Huntsville,

92
00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,040
Texas with all these college students.

93
00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,480
And there was like, what, you guys stayed till midnight.

94
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,760
There was like Holy Ghost breakout.

95
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,680
There was legit deliverances.

96
00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,920
Tons of students got saved.

97
00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080
I mean, you had radical services.

98
00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,080
It was so powerful.

99
00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,080
It was powerful.

100
00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,200
And then there was Eli and Mary Gautreau down there and Colin, Jason, all those guys that

101
00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,840
are doing a great job down there.

102
00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:49,720
I think we had one night where 25, 30 kids got saved and we had a night where that many

103
00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800
or more were baptized in the Holy Ghost.

104
00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,720
We see the heavenly language the first time.

105
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,280
So it was truly awesome.

106
00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:58,400
You know, so be encouraged, you guys, as you're hearing these testimonies, this is, and I

107
00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,040
was just sharing like, oh, this has just happened to happening.

108
00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,320
This is like, this is what's available.

109
00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,360
This is what God's doing all over.

110
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,600
So grab these testimonies because we always believe that the testimony of Jesus' spirit

111
00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,560
of prophecy, meaning we're prophesying to you what's available right now.

112
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,840
There is just a Holy Ghost outpouring that's happening all over.

113
00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:21,160
And so we want you guys to grab that for wherever you call home because we believe more is available.

114
00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,160
Speaking of more.

115
00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,160
Also, another great announcement, you guys.

116
00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,360
We're going to have another momentum night.

117
00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,800
We did one about a month ago.

118
00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,960
It was amazing.

119
00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,960
We had a capacity crowd.

120
00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,880
400 people show up on two weeks.

121
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,320
I think we talked about two weeks notice, but we're doing another momentum night for

122
00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,160
those of you that missed the last one.

123
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,160
It's going to be May 12th at 7pm.

124
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,240
It's going to be a Sequoia Community Church.

125
00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,920
You can look up the address, but it's 4292 Keller Avenue in Oakland and we are super

126
00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,920
excited.

127
00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,200
And so we kind of are going to follow up that last night of fire and we're calling hungry

128
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,640
believers, revivalists, reformers.

129
00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,120
We're calling the unsaved to come and join us for round two.

130
00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,440
And we really believe that if we come together, that God is already at work in the Bay and

131
00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,360
it's just us coming together, coming in agreement for a move of God because we all know we

132
00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,880
just need a movement.

133
00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,240
And so you can need to join us for this momentum night.

134
00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,440
Again, it is going to be May 12th, Friday night at 7pm.

135
00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,440
Come join us Bay area and NorCal.

136
00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,440
And that's right.

137
00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,720
And we always say to you guys, get in the room.

138
00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,720
If you're able to get in the room, there's something about when you're in the room with

139
00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,600
the Holy Ghost, it is just different.

140
00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,160
It hits differently.

141
00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,660
It transforms you differently.

142
00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:31,660
So get in the room.

143
00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:34,400
If you know anyone in the Bay area, if you live in the Bay area, show up.

144
00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,400
It's free.

145
00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,400
No registration.

146
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,400
Just come.

147
00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960
Bring your mom, bring your friends, bring your family, bring your neighbors, bring them

148
00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480
all because the Holy Ghost is about to break out.

149
00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120
And we're just continuing for a move of God and we're beginning to see it.

150
00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,120
So join us May 12th.

151
00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,120
Okay.

152
00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,120
Are we ready?

153
00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,120
Let's go.

154
00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,120
Okay.

155
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,120
So this is kind of fun.

156
00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,120
I propose this idea to Sean.

157
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960
I just have been wanting to interview Sean for a while because he has one of the most powerful

158
00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,960
stories.

159
00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,280
And he's my husband, so I get a front row seat to do this man of God every day.

160
00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:03,960
And he truly is one of the most Christ-like people I know.

161
00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,180
He constantly challenges me with his walk with God.

162
00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:09,480
He walks in such an integrity.

163
00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,320
He walks in such a deep conviction for the things of God, but he also walks in a sincere

164
00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,960
joy and a peace that is truly unrattled.

165
00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:25,560
I have seen my husband face incredibly difficult situations and moments in life and he just

166
00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,560
stays steadfast in things of God.

167
00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,360
And I'm always asking him questions because I always want to be a student and I want to

168
00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,480
learn from people that walk deeper in areas that I want to walk deeper in.

169
00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,520
So I'm going to talk to my husband about places that are hard and places that have been difficult

170
00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560
and places that have been really painful.

171
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,200
I think in today's world, let me open it up with this baby.

172
00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,280
I think in today's world, we have a world that really focuses on people's pain and people

173
00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:59,320
are very quick to share and sometimes overshare their pain and their trauma and their hardship.

174
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,520
And I do appreciate vulnerability and I encourage vulnerability.

175
00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:08,080
I want people to feel like they can be transparent and be totally open with their hardships.

176
00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,600
But as a believer in Christ, I always have questions on how to walk through the hardships.

177
00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,240
But before we get through the how to walk through, I know your life.

178
00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,700
You don't know all the questions that I'm going to ask you today.

179
00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:25,720
But I want to come to you and I want to start talking to you because I know firsthand, you've

180
00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,560
walked through a lot of trauma.

181
00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,000
You've walked through a lot of hardship.

182
00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,800
Baby, what would you say is one of the most difficult things you've ever had to walk through?

183
00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760
That is actually a very great question.

184
00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,280
I think in my life, I look back, I had people walk out of my life in significant relationship.

185
00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,240
I experienced the death of close ones.

186
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,240
I've had to deal with diseases that have plagued people that I love.

187
00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,160
I think that there's several things that were very, very challenging for me.

188
00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,440
And I think the thing that I really would sum it all up in is those areas where you

189
00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,360
really can't help yourself.

190
00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,720
Like it's a decision made by someone else.

191
00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,720
Yeah.

192
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000
When I was old enough to recognize my dad initially, of course, this is not how it ended, but

193
00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,440
my dad initially chose to walk out on me.

194
00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,840
So I think that was probably the first time, obviously someone significant that he had

195
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,160
got my mother pregnant and didn't want to be a dad, didn't want to be a husband.

196
00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,760
And so he walked out.

197
00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,800
And so that when I was old enough to kind of discover that I realized in retrospect,

198
00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,560
it hit and affected me in a deeper place than I could articulate.

199
00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:32,520
Cause when you're young, you don't know, you don't have all the terminology.

200
00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,520
So I think that happened.

201
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,240
I've had relationships where people have walked out.

202
00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,360
You know, I've had people that were emotionally non present, although maybe physically they've

203
00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,520
been there.

204
00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,640
My precious mom, she had so much she had to fight through.

205
00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,760
She's going to be with the Lord.

206
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,720
So there was a period in time where she probably was not emotionally as present.

207
00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,880
Those of you that know my testimony, my grandmother was an alcoholic coming up.

208
00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,240
So there was times during in which she was drunk and she was not emotionally available.

209
00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,960
But when she was sober, she was very much available.

210
00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,840
So it was kind of a, I describe it as kind of a Jekyll hide.

211
00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,480
She was never abusive to me.

212
00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,160
She was, she was an old school disciplinarian and she was very Southern black grandmother

213
00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240
ish in her upbringing, how she brought me up.

214
00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,440
What I just think throughout my life rather was in high school with peer pressure, but

215
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:24,160
not really knowing who I am, my identity to, you know, just earlier relationships, failed

216
00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,880
relationships, obviously before I met you.

217
00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,080
And so I, when I put it together, it's those moments where either a disease or someone

218
00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,200
making a decision where you don't have control.

219
00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,600
I feel like I do better if I can have an element of control.

220
00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,280
Now, obviously control is, it's a subjective word is very fluid.

221
00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,600
Not ultimately is in control, we're not in control, but things that I can make a decision

222
00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,200
and I can shift and change.

223
00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,280
There are things in life and I'm sure there are people that are listening that regardless

224
00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,400
of what decision you may or may not have made, there are certain things in life that will

225
00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,880
hit you square between the eyes and you just have to, you have to roll, you have to shift,

226
00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,880
you have to adapt.

227
00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,080
So those are probably the toughest things that have happened in my life.

228
00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:10,440
So I hear you talking about the alcoholism, losing your grandma, your dad being murdered

229
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,280
and your dad initially walking out and just the consistency of just that trauma after

230
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,360
trauma after trauma.

231
00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,440
And there's other things that you didn't even state, you know, that I know you've walked

232
00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,440
through or whatever.

233
00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,480
And I guess the question I would have that I think a lot of people listening would have

234
00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:31,000
is we serve a God who's really good and we know logically in our brains, God is good,

235
00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120
but then you're going through things that aren't good.

236
00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,400
How do you reconcile in the midst of trauma and pain that God is still good in pain and

237
00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,400
suffering?

238
00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,680
How do you, how do you stay in a place of God being good when it's like so hard?

239
00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,320
There are two thoughts that I have on that.

240
00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,320
The first thought is issue.

241
00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,040
You have to get job descriptions correct.

242
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,280
If the, if the devil, the Bible says comes to kill, still and destroy, Jesus came that

243
00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,440
you may have life and life more abundantly.

244
00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,920
We pray the prayer Jesus taught us in the Lord's prayer may as well be done on earth as it

245
00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,160
is in heaven.

246
00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,360
Sometimes people think that because it happens, God did it or God purposed it.

247
00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,960
And although I don't think anything can happen to a believer without God being able to redeem

248
00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,960
it and use it.

249
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,360
And I'll talk about that in a moment.

250
00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,800
Not everything that happens to you is from the hand of God.

251
00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,280
And I think until you understand that we've let people out of their pain rewrite our theology.

252
00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:30,640
And we've let people who've had hurts and wounds and pains change God into kind of this

253
00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,460
God that allows mean things to happen as if he would kind of torture his kids a little

254
00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:37,800
bit to try to make them better followers.

255
00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,800
That's not God at all.

256
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,840
And you have to understand there will be a time when God completely in terms of his

257
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,040
will being enforced over people.

258
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,920
And the Bible says that that time will be a new heaven and a new earth.

259
00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,320
The Bible says there'll be no more wars, no more pain, no more killing, no more murder.

260
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,080
And we got to remember when Jesus, when God created the Garden of Eden, none of that was

261
00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080
there.

262
00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080
The serpent was there.

263
00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,680
It was only when man partnered outside of the will of God with what the enemy wanted to

264
00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,120
do that pain and suffering comes into the world.

265
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,480
And it's still the case today.

266
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,000
If we would come in agreement with God, there's so much that would be avoided.

267
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,880
And you have to understand we live in a fallen world.

268
00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,280
We live in a senseic world where people make decisions that are not God.

269
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,400
If everyone lived the way Jesus lived, our world would be a completely different place.

270
00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,920
All you got to do is read the Gospels and look at what Jesus did.

271
00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,520
And if you find out Jesus was always destroying the works of the enemy and undoing what the

272
00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:38,640
devil did, so if you see that, that is a clear theological depiction of who the father is.

273
00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,240
So number one, this is so important and this always helps me is I got to stop and think,

274
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:49,080
God is good, but we live in a fallen world that displays what's bad.

275
00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880
But if we lean into God, there's always hope.

276
00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,120
And that's the biggest thing.

277
00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,440
So that leads me to the second thing that's huge.

278
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,880
And in fact, I even put this on social media and I say, you have, this is a lesson I've

279
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,880
learned gang.

280
00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,640
You have to live your life as if what Jesus did for you is bigger than what they did to

281
00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640
you.

282
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,440
If you can live your life as if what Jesus did for you is bigger than what they did to

283
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,640
you, then the pain will never define you.

284
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,920
I'm not defined by pain.

285
00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,760
I'm not defined by someone else's brokenness.

286
00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,400
I've had betrayal.

287
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,400
You've had betrayal.

288
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,240
Everybody has had betrayal in their life.

289
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,880
I've had people say things about me that weren't true and some instances, some people, you

290
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,520
know, relatively close.

291
00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:34,400
But in the midst of all of that, I say what Jesus did for me on the cross will never be

292
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,360
outdone by what they did to me.

293
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,680
So no matter how much, let's just say someone's throwing rocks at me, right?

294
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,360
I feel that rock hit my body.

295
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,600
I feel the pain of that.

296
00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,320
I can see the bruise of that.

297
00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,120
Maybe it's scarred me.

298
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,320
Maybe it's broken skin or whatever.

299
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,920
Maybe it's knocked me down like the rocket me, but none of that is greater than when

300
00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,640
Jesus puts me on my feet.

301
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000
So when Jesus set me upon the rock, he put me on my feet.

302
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,360
When Jesus sets you on the rock, the rocks, they throw it.

303
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120
You can't take you off your feet unless you let them.

304
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,120
And I just refuse.

305
00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,200
And I think that understanding of what Jesus did for me is greater than what they did to

306
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,200
me.

307
00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,920
It takes me out of victims mentality.

308
00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,760
It takes me out of a victim circumstance and put me in a victor circle.

309
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,320
You know, like when you win them horse races, like when they do the big triple crown, they

310
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,320
get in a winner circle.

311
00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,320
Right.

312
00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,280
And I'm not going to be in a victim mentality.

313
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,680
I'm going to be in a victor circle at the end of the day.

314
00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,960
And then I also believe this, no matter how bad it gets, if Jesus is in the equation,

315
00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640
the upturn can begin the moment I acknowledge Jesus in my situation.

316
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,360
So things I think are really have been helpful.

317
00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,240
His joy is greater than my pain.

318
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,200
And you have to focus on that.

319
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,440
Because what you focus on at the end of the day, you allow greater access, you give greater

320
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,760
mental space to.

321
00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840
And in fact, your feelings will follow your optics.

322
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,480
And so if my optics are on the pain and how bad it is, then my feelings follow that before

323
00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,560
I know what I've come underneath that instead of being above that.

324
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,680
Oh my goodness.

325
00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,120
That's, that's a book.

326
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,640
I mean, that's profound, baby.

327
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640
I love this.

328
00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,320
So you're talking about, I just want to take that what you focus on even a step further

329
00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,320
if that's okay.

330
00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,040
Cause I think that that's such a powerful thing.

331
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040
Cause I've watched you receive bad news.

332
00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:22,160
I've, I've watched you get the call that your mom is being rushed to the ER and she passed

333
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,160
away that night.

334
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,160
I was with you.

335
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,160
I was by your side in that moment.

336
00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,800
I watched you worship, lean into God, pray.

337
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,640
What is the default setting within you that when you are literally slapped in the face

338
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:41,080
with the most unspeakable, unexpected blind siding pain, what's your default setting that

339
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,720
you just naturally tap into?

340
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,880
Cause I think what our default settings are is key.

341
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,040
It has to be like so practiced within us becomes instinct, right?

342
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,200
Cause you can't really think clearly and highly emotional places and spaces.

343
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,360
And so there's something in our instinctual place that had, had to have been developed

344
00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,200
before we get to the crisis.

345
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080
You're practiced in this, you're disciplined in this.

346
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,400
What is those disciplines that you literally activate when the pain comes knocking on your

347
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,400
door?

348
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,920
I think some people run to Jesus when crisis comes, but if you stay in Jesus, you don't

349
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,320
have to run to Jesus.

350
00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,680
You know, some people have the false philosophy is stay petty.

351
00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,120
So you don't have to get petty.

352
00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,880
My thing is stay in Jesus.

353
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,760
So you don't have to go back and get in Jesus when crisis comes.

354
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,400
But here's, I think, another fallacy.

355
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,040
I think a lot of people think that peace is the absence of pain and unmet needs and wants.

356
00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,040
They think peace.

357
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,960
And so I want to say this way, peace is not the absence of unmet needs, pains and hurts,

358
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,880
but it's ability to give them the proper status, whatever pain, whatever setback, whatever

359
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,440
thing, give it the proper status in a way that it never drowns out the value of what

360
00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,800
you already possess.

361
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,240
You possess Jesus living inside of you, which is heaven.

362
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,400
I don't have to wait till I die to get to heaven, although I believe there's an eternal

363
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,760
resting place called heaven, but I believe that Jesus presence in my soul gives me heaven

364
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,800
in the midst of hell.

365
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,800
So even David, the Psalmist can say in the 23rd Psalm, even though I walk through the

366
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,480
valley of the shadow of death, you are with me.

367
00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,360
So what the David is Psalmist is saying, I'm in hell, but I got heaven in me.

368
00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:18,320
So I never allow the pain I'm going through me to have an undue status report.

369
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,320
So the proper status is pain has a status, but it's not going to undo what I already

370
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,320
possess.

371
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,320
I possess Jesus.

372
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,640
And so I think you live in a place where you're constantly bringing your mind back to Jesus.

373
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,920
He's mind is stayed on the eskeptum perfect piece.

374
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,640
The prophet says it in the Old Testament.

375
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,360
So I keep my mind on Jesus.

376
00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,640
And the other thing is that I think you have to stop.

377
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,280
I know different people look at this differently.

378
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,960
I would say this is that I know what it's like to not have Jesus in my life.

379
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,520
I know what it's like to be depressed out of your gourd to where you wanted to in your

380
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,080
life and then for Jesus to show up and supernaturally.

381
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,800
So I say this, I say my absolute worst day as a believer is infinitely greater than my

382
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000
best life as an unbeliever.

383
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,360
And I feel like some people for themselves, the luxury that in the back of their head,

384
00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,160
if it gets too bad, I could go back to what I was doomed to for Jesus.

385
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,280
I burn that plow.

386
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,840
So that option is not there.

387
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,200
So no matter how bad it gets, it's already fixed in my head.

388
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,480
I'm with Jesus.

389
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,840
I have no other option.

390
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,520
You know, when Jesus thinned the crowd out and said, unless you eat my flesh drink,

391
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,840
my blood can't follow me.

392
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,520
And the disciples were kind of going, looking at him like, Jesus, what you said is kind

393
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,520
of harsh.

394
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,800
And Jesus said, do you want to go to?

395
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,560
And Peter, I believe, was the one that responded, Jesus, where are we going to go?

396
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,720
We left all to follow you.

397
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,240
And so he had burned the plow or that one guy, I think the Spaniard conquistador, he

398
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,800
burned the ships so the guys couldn't turn around and go, Cortez, he couldn't, they couldn't,

399
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,600
they couldn't go in retreat.

400
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,880
And so that, those are some things that are very key for me and principles that I try

401
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,400
to abide and try to live by and principles that I've learned.

402
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,400
I love that.

403
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,680
And I, and I see you that I see you practice that.

404
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,920
I think this is why I wanted to interview you about this, because honestly, baby, I think

405
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,720
you're one of the most disciplined people in this area.

406
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,320
And I think you're probably one of the most consistent people I've ever seen that no matter

407
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,280
what you're walking through, literally your worship doesn't change your, your heart for

408
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,200
Jesus, your sweetness, your kindness, your joy, your peace.

409
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,200
It doesn't shift.

410
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,720
And times I marvel because I'm like, man, I want to be like you when I grow up, you're

411
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,720
like my hero.

412
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,720
I'm serious.

413
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720
Like you're so, you're so steadfast.

414
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560
I am more like, I have to like find my bearings more than you.

415
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,960
You're like just so consistent.

416
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,040
And I ask you these questions privately, but I wanted to make it a public conversation

417
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,960
because I know if I'm asking these questions and I have the privilege of having someone

418
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,040
to ask them to, but a lot of people don't have someone in their life that this is modeled

419
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:50,120
that it's actually possible to walk in a place that is, that is unrelenting in the peace

420
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,880
of God, that you just, there's a steadfastness that you walk in.

421
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,680
So I want to go back to being in the place of feeling out of control and feeling out

422
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,200
of control is when you don't have control, when bad things are happening and it's because

423
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,400
of let's just create a scenario that you and I have both walked in where it's other people's

424
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,960
decisions that affect our life and that causes pain or hurt or chaos.

425
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,880
How do you not get offended?

426
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240
And I know we hit on it with the job description.

427
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,240
I understand that, but I just want to take it even deeper because I think this is where

428
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:28,240
I think we can all get hung up at times as even followers of Jesus that when something

429
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360
happens that God could stop.

430
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,920
And I know that there's a difference of job description, so I'm not trying to repeat it,

431
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:40,880
but I just think how do you stay unafended at God in the midst of really painful circumstances?

432
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,640
I think some people, it's subtle.

433
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,640
There are a couple of different thoughts.

434
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,520
You have on one end of the spectrum, you have believers, I believe that there's a bit of

435
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,680
North American Christianity, there's a bit of an entitlement.

436
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,680
Like God, you owe me a good life.

437
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,800
You owe me a hashtag best life, loud.

438
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,920
I should prosper.

439
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,920
I should have this.

440
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,920
I should have this.

441
00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,920
I should have this.

442
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,080
All you got to do is read Fox's book of martyrs.

443
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,280
All you got to do is see the persecuted underground church, a Corrie 10 boom, different people.

444
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,400
If you look at the disciples, I mean, we talk about how awesome it was in Wabji's.

445
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Hey, all but John was martyred and that dude was thrown in a cauldron of oil and supernaturally

446
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,920
was preserved by God, but he died in exile on the island of Patmel's writing revelation.

447
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,440
So I think on one end of the spectrum is a bit of an entitlement.

448
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,520
The other thing that I think is significant for a lot of believers is to simply recognize

449
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,880
Jesus died.

450
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,320
He suffered bland on a cross, a cruel, dishonorable death.

451
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,800
Death by crucifixion by the Romans was very dishonorable.

452
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,480
I think we lose sight of the fact that the Bible says that we're supposed to enter into

453
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,440
the sufferings of Christ.

454
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,760
We just don't talk about that.

455
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,760
It's not preach.

456
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,400
So I think again, we think that a little bit of like God's a slot machine.

457
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760
I'm going to put my prayer in, pull my hand down.

458
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,440
I'm going to get triple bars all across.

459
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,720
It's going to pay off all my prayers to be answered, everything I wish and want.

460
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800
But here's the other thing that I think is equally as important is that as far as God's

461
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:11,200
concern, we have to recognize your development is more important than your immediate deliverance.

462
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,800
Now I don't mean deliverance from the demonic.

463
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,800
Right.

464
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,800
I don't mean deliverance from hell.

465
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,800
Those things are clear on the spot.

466
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800
God's giving you that.

467
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,840
But I mean deliverance out of a problem, out of a sticky situation, out of a conundrum,

468
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,440
out of in a place of waiting, we think God owes us deliverance, but really God's more

469
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,880
concerned about your development than it is your deliverance.

470
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600
And that's why Shai Ragnamishak and the Bendigo weren't pulled out of the fire.

471
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,120
They were given the grace to, to endure the fire.

472
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:40,120
They stayed there and they got a revelation of the fourth one in the fire.

473
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,400
They wouldn't have had that had all of a sudden God just like did this thing and angels came

474
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,440
down and will pull them out.

475
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,360
And we forget Joseph man.

476
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,320
I mean, yeah, he was the right hand do to Potiphar.

477
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,280
But the guy had what 13 years before that happened of just being lied upon, being misrepresented,

478
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,780
thrown in prison.

479
00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:01,720
He's doing the right thing, but wrong things happened to him.

480
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,320
Somebody needs to pull right now out the book of Genesis and read a Joseph.

481
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,040
So I think the other thing and how, so how do we get through this?

482
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,800
You can live on one frequency of life that's feelings or you can live on another frequency

483
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,160
of life that's faith.

484
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,600
But so many people want to stay in their feelings.

485
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,080
And I think modern culture feeds feelings in your feelings and everything about feelings

486
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,120
and hip hop artists talk about your feelings and everything's feelings.

487
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,520
And so we want to share our feelings.

488
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Well, I just feel, feel, feel, feel, feel, but the Bible says we walk by faith, not by

489
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,800
sight.

490
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,040
I don't think we should deny our feelings.

491
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:40,000
I just think that we should not give feelings, the airspace or the decision criteria or predominant

492
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760
vote in where our mind and our lives go.

493
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,000
You got to walk by faith.

494
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,520
So somewhere along the line, you got to get in the scripture and declare what is the word

495
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,520
of God say?

496
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,240
What do I know this true about the character of God?

497
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,280
And even if in that point in time say, I don't have a specific scripture I could land on,

498
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000
I don't have a prophetic word or God's not giving me anything.

499
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280
I'm just going to believe his character, but I'm going to choose faith.

500
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,400
And if you, if you could get there by feelings, here's what I believe you to God there.

501
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,560
So if you can't get there by feelings, you know, it's, it's almost like we didn't get

502
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,720
to London by car because you can't, you get, we can get to the East coast by car because

503
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,960
we had to get to the East cause we had a direct flight all the way from San Francisco to Heathrow.

504
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880
But you, you would need a boat to get across the water part or you need to go air.

505
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920
So it's almost like you can go by feelings.

506
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,320
That's only going to get you so far.

507
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,480
But if you go by faith, then all of a sudden you're, you're moving from being in a motorized

508
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,280
vehicle on land to now you can go aerial.

509
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,760
And that's what God gives us faith.

510
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080
So we're not limited to, to our feelings.

511
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Oh my gosh, baby, you need to write a book on this.

512
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,960
I'm serious.

513
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,640
You really walk in a revelation the world needs, especially our world today.

514
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760
You know, it's interesting you brought up suffering cause I think it is one of probably

515
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,160
one of the most underrated places of discipleship and we want to avoid suffering and difficulty

516
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,560
and pain at all costs.

517
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,200
But when I even reflect on my own life, it's actually the places of extended pain and suffering

518
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,840
that have created the deepest root system within me.

519
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,680
And I look at the places of breakthrough that have become sweeter because of the delayed

520
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,680
waiting.

521
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,120
And that's one of my life I've waited for promises.

522
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,400
This isn't true for everyone, but just speaking from my own story, my own experience, the

523
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Lord has allowed me to have extended seasons of waiting for deep desires and promises in

524
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,560
my life.

525
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,840
And when that sweet, when that breakthrough happened, when that prayer got answered, i.e.

526
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,240
Mary knew I waited 20 years and it wasn't all suffering, but there was times of suffering.

527
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040
There was times of pain in it.

528
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,400
So when you came into my life, when I didn't expect it cause it was so laid down, but that

529
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,240
laid down that like that depth, that root system that God had developed within me, it

530
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,160
was like how much sweeter was it because it was just so it was so given to God.

531
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,160
But I also look back of what he developed between him and me and my identity and God,

532
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,480
my trust, my surrender in him, all areas I can still continue to grow in, but I still

533
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,320
had significant growth during those times in those years of extended waiting.

534
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,760
So I just want to encourage the listener today that's going, my gosh, Christa, Sean, I'm

535
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,000
in such a hard season.

536
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,480
It's just been going on and on.

537
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,000
We want you to know we've been there and we understand and we want to encourage you that

538
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,560
God's actually going to use your pain in a place of discipleship and you're actually

539
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,160
going to grow and deepen it.

540
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,640
There's purpose in the pain.

541
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,600
I actually find that incredibly encouraging because I'd much rather have purpose than

542
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,680
I'm just going through it for no reason.

543
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,280
I feel like that promise that God uses everything for his glory, everything.

544
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000
That means the good, the bad, the ugly.

545
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,200
He uses it all, uses it places of pain for his glory.

546
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,560
That means I'm going to see fruit in my life from it, whether it be breakthrough, whether

547
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,680
it just be a sweeter place of intimacy between Jesus and I, which that alone is enough.

548
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,560
But I just recognize, which I'm hearing you say, the deepest places of discipleship and

549
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:04,040
growth in who we are come in extended seasons of pain and suffering.

550
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Yes.

551
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,840
The Bible is very clear about that, that we would know him who, and part of it, the part

552
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320
we leave out is the fellowship of his suffering.

553
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520
There's a place and you alluded to it of intimacy of knowing God by going through it.

554
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,520
Here's what I say.

555
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440
Like don't waste your wildernesses.

556
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,840
Like let your wildernesses be something that at the end of the day propels you into your

557
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,280
promised lands because if you don't have wildernesses, you won't have promised lands.

558
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800
God started us off with that typology right from the jump.

559
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,040
He pulled his people, the nation of Israel.

560
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,920
He pulled them out of bondage, but they had to go through the wilderness before they could

561
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,520
get into the promised land.

562
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,440
And the wilderness is your training place.

563
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,240
David, he's out the backside of a wilderness.

564
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Moses backside of a wilderness.

565
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480
Jesus backside of a wilderness.

566
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,160
It just goes on and on and on.

567
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,160
And the Bible is clear too.

568
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,320
The Bible says it and inheritance gain hurriedly in the beginning when I'll be blessed in the

569
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,320
end.

570
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920
And this thing doesn't, doesn't happen just because you grind it.

571
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,680
You know, like we think, Hey, team grind.

572
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
I'll just work harder and man, I'll just grind it.

573
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Man, I'll get my entrepreneurial idea up and going.

574
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Man, I'm going to be super successful.

575
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,680
Man, I'll get my little music thing and I'm trying to produce or I'll get this other little,

576
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360
you know, Instagram, you know, influencer deal going in the kingdom.

577
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,440
You don't want your stuff overnight because if you get it overnight, you can lose it overnight.

578
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,640
And that, that even when they look at people and they say, Oh man, that guy or that gal,

579
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320
their ministry, they blew up overnight.

580
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,320
No, no, no.

581
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,120
I understand that overnight, what it looked to you was like 30 years for them, 25 years

582
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
for them, 20 years for them, 10 years, because the worst thing that could ever happen, right?

583
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720
Is you get a platform, but you don't have the character.

584
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,320
And so somewhere along the line, you've got to form that character with dealing with the

585
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,260
contradictions, dealing with those times of waiting, dealing, uh, processing pain.

586
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:57,160
That's why the worst thing someone could do is let pain take them out when in fact God

587
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,160
allowed pain.

588
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Yeah.

589
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,160
I'm not saying he sent it.

590
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320
I'm not saying it to take you in, not take you out.

591
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,480
So if you really process it with the Lord, it can actually be your Uber car, Uber drive

592
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
into the promises that God has for you.

593
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,080
So it's just so important.

594
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,280
So many people that when there's no things you can't wrap your head around, you don't

595
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,920
understand, you don't know.

596
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Trust me, every single person you respect, they've been through it.

597
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,160
And if they've not been through it, truth be told, they'll probably not be able to endure

598
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,960
the success or the pressure or everything else that comes.

599
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,960
You have to have character.

600
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,960
And then what we're seeing that, no matter what, we're seeing that.

601
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840
No matter what venue today, whether it's professional athletes, whether it's in Hollywood, whether

602
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,040
it's in the music industry, whether it's in IT, whether it's in finance, you're seeing

603
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,440
people make horrible decisions and it's because some of them took shortcuts and you, you don't

604
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,840
want shortcuts.

605
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,560
And the thing is, is that when you don't have control, you have to learn how to trust the

606
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,960
one who is in control.

607
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,120
Trust is, is, is lesson number one in the kingdom.

608
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,720
Uh, in fact, one of the words for faith is actually the word trust.

609
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,320
And if you don't learn to trust Jesus, you'll never get past Christianity one on one.

610
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,720
Hey, you're, you're a baby and Paul says, Hey, uh, you, you guys, you've been here.

611
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680
You need to have moved on from the milk.

612
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,080
You need to move on to the meat.

613
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,440
And so he's challenging them.

614
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400
You've got to go deeper and going deeper is going in a walk of trust.

615
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,400
It's a, it's a, it isn't a blind faith, but at times it's, it's a walk where you won't

616
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,160
have sight in the natural.

617
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Yeah.

618
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,160
You only have visibility.

619
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Yeah.

620
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240
You only have sight by faith and by knowing the one who's leading you.

621
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240
That's true.

622
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,040
And that sight and faith and just the knowing came from the places of having to trust him

623
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,480
when you couldn't see, it didn't make sense.

624
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,240
And you didn't have the visibility.

625
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,600
You didn't have the strong encounter.

626
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,440
You didn't have the loud voice or wasn't not the prophetic word.

627
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,880
There wasn't the powerful encounter.

628
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,960
You're not getting people that people aren't praying for you.

629
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,840
It's in the really quiet, silent place in God's like, but who do you say I am?

630
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Who do you say I am?

631
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,760
And you're able to say who he is that he's still healer, even with the diagnosis, you're

632
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760
able to stay.

633
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880
You're still good even in the midst of the contradiction, the pain and the suffering

634
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,920
and something I've learned in extended seasons of suffering and you brought this up in the

635
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:10,280
area of trust is, you know, really for me, surrender is so required in those places of

636
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880
suffering in order to tap into the trust.

637
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,680
I can only tap into the deeper places of trusting God because the deeper I surrender, it means

638
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,880
the greater I trust.

639
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760
I can't surrender where I don't trust.

640
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
And it really God is looking for full surrender.

641
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200
I can only fully surrender where I fully trust him.

642
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,280
So when he's asking me like Sam Abraham, Isaac moment, he's saying, can you give me the

643
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,280
son?

644
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Right.

645
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,280
And I'm like, okay, I can give you a leg.

646
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,280
I can give you an arm.

647
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,880
He's like, no, no, I want the whole child.

648
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,880
I'm like, I'm still holding on to one arm.

649
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,240
And I have, and I've had that process where God's like, can I have the whole child?

650
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560
And I'm like, I'll give you three quarters.

651
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,920
And then I'm noticed I'm still holding on, which means I'm still striving.

652
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,800
I'm still trying to do it on my own.

653
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,000
And I don't find that place of rest, right, because I'm not surrendering.

654
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,840
And so for those of you that have struggled, maybe like myself, where you have just had

655
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,760
a lack of rest, there's even maybe been anxiety you've been dealing with.

656
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,360
It's because God's invited you in to a deeper place of surrender, which means a deeper place

657
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
of trust, deeper the trust, deeper the rest.

658
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160
And so that's something I'm walking out.

659
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,280
That's something I'm still learning.

660
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,520
I feel like I'm just continuing that journey of always trying to go deeper and I walk with

661
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Jesus.

662
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,400
But I feel like someone today needs to hear that.

663
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,480
I know that when you're in those places of just feeling the pain and the hardship and

664
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
you're going, why can I find this place of peace?

665
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,960
And God's just inviting you to go even deeper, like beyond capacity.

666
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,960
And what is he doing?

667
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,600
He's expanding your tent pegs.

668
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520
He's taking you to a deeper place of trusting in him.

669
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
You know, right along those lines, I was thinking about when Jesus said to Peter, he says,

670
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200
Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded permission to sift you as wheat.

671
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,640
And if I'm Peter, I'm thinking, and you're toe to no, right?

672
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,360
And of course, Jesus goes on and he says, I prayed for you so that after you have returned,

673
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440
in other words, after you get back up on your feet, you will strengthen your brothers.

674
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,600
So what is the principle?

675
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,680
The takeaway principle from that is this.

676
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,440
What many of us call a faith crisis, heaven calls a faith catalyst.

677
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Like that was a faith crisis.

678
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,360
His Satan demanded permission.

679
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,480
That was Peter denied Jesus three times when he was apprehended.

680
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,720
He didn't, he said, no, I don't know the man.

681
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:11,720
No, I don't know the man.

682
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:13,520
He called curses down on himself.

683
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,840
That was a crisis of faith.

684
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,360
You could look at him like he could have walked around, moped.

685
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Total deconstruction, walked away from God, went out in the world, went back in a sense.

686
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,240
He went back to fishing.

687
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,080
But Jesus told him after you get back on your feet, strengthen your brothers, what do we

688
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,080
know about Peter?

689
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,880
Simon Peter stands up on the day of Pentecost, preaches the church's first sermon.

690
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,960
He is kind of the rock of the early church until we see Paul come on this scene.

691
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,280
Really he kind of takes more of a leadership role, probably about Acts 13.

692
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,480
So from Acts two to Acts 13, it's really about Peter.

693
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600
But what we would call a crisis of faith.

694
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Somebody right now is going through something, they go, oh man, I'm in a crisis of faith.

695
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,760
I challenge you to redefine and turn the narrative and recognize it's not a crisis of faith,

696
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,120
it's a catalyst of faith.

697
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,680
You're going to receive something that will bring strength to other people and will actually

698
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,920
be your superpower at the end of the day.

699
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,880
And so I, I, I'm like, I look at it like, okay, it feels like a crisis, but it will,

700
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160
if I stay with Jesus, it will be a catalyst.

701
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600
My goodness, baby, you're amazing.

702
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,600
I love your revelation.

703
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,600
You're sweet, Paul.

704
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,600
You're sweet.

705
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600
You're sweet.

706
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560
It's just, it's just a nice conversation, you know, I just, I think I want someone to

707
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,640
walk away with a practical and I think that whenever you're going through a hard place,

708
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,880
a place of suffering, a place of pain, the enemy's always going after redefining who

709
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,880
God is.

710
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,480
You talked about it before you said it really well.

711
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,640
There's a war over job descriptions and we often get them confused.

712
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,200
You said this statement, I thought it was really powerful to keep our minds focused on Christ.

713
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,840
That to me, there's the war.

714
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,860
It's what do we, what do we keep our focus on?

715
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:41,860
Where do we set up?

716
00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:43,920
How do we set our, what do we set our minds upon?

717
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Maybe that's the best way to say it.

718
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,760
Just with kind of that takeaway concept that we have with the Keefer 100 tribe, how do

719
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,120
people do that practically?

720
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,820
What's that takeaway when someone is walking through something difficult?

721
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:57,360
How do they set their mind on Christ?

722
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,040
I think when you're feeling that pain, you're feeling that longing, you're feeling that

723
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,560
loss, let that, in the same way, when you feel hunger, hunger pains or pains, they call

724
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,240
it, it moves you towards food, right?

725
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,720
If you feel like, oh man, my stomach's growling, I better go eat.

726
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,720
Like what's going on?

727
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720
I'm hungry.

728
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,600
You're feeling loss, you're feeling lonely, you're feeling pain, you're feeling demoralized.

729
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Let that be, if you will, that inner prompting to go, I immediately need to press into Jesus.

730
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,040
I think that many times we take a step back when we allow the substitutes.

731
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,000
So I think one of the early things is that when you're feeling stuff going, trying to

732
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,040
go south, don't get in your head, get in your heart.

733
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,720
You're getting in your head, you're immediately trying to know how bad it is.

734
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:39,760
Oh, I can't believe why am I going through this?

735
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,240
Hey, I, I, I'm trying to figure out some solutions.

736
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:43,240
All that.

737
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,920
Instead, go to your heart and say, Lord, I need you.

738
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,920
What is it?

739
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,920
I'm feeling pain.

740
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Just be honest with the Lord, talk to the Lord.

741
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,640
I think those are so key that you include Jesus in it.

742
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,920
Don't let your problems separate you from your Redeemer.

743
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Allow it to draw you nearer to your Redeemer.

744
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,640
And so you think about it, all the words for God is he's Joe Verrafa, he's Joe Vanesys,

745
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,800
Genova, Sid Canoe, what are those?

746
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,200
If you go back and research all the origins of when God's name was revealed, it was because

747
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,080
his people had the absolute opposite of that.

748
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,720
So they discovered, you know, Hagar's in the middle of wilderness, there's no water, her

749
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:20,720
and her son's going to die.

750
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,520
Ah, he's Jehovah Rohe, a God who sees me when they're like discovering they're about to

751
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,520
die.

752
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,520
I don't know.

753
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,520
I think it was from snake bites.

754
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,920
They go, oh, it's, he's Jehovah Rafa.

755
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,760
So they get a deeper revelation of God meeting their need because in their pain, in their

756
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,240
lack, in their contradiction, they look to the Lord and he was able to come through for

757
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,240
them.

758
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,680
And that needs to be the cue that we follow as well.

759
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,680
That would be my takeaway.

760
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Wow.

761
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,680
That is so good.

762
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Keep on head of tribe.

763
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,360
I don't know about you, but I was incredibly blessed and ministered to by this episode,

764
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880
just being around it.

765
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,680
I get to live with this man of God every day.

766
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,280
I wanted you guys to hear the wisdom that he walks in because he's been one that's really

767
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,280
impacted my life.

768
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200
I ask him these kinds of questions all the time.

769
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,880
And I felt like this was an important conversation because I think so many people are going through

770
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,080
really hard things right now.

771
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680
And I just felt this truth and revelation was so key to share it with all of you.

772
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640
For any of you that are going through really difficult and hard times, I want you to be

773
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,640
encouraged today.

774
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,640
You're not forgotten.

775
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,560
You're not overlooked and you're not not seen.

776
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,520
You have a God who loves you, who pursues you, who sees you and he's with you.

777
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560
And I just want you to know God's going to get you through it where your ad is not your

778
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,120
permanent location, but we have a God who does breakthrough.

779
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640
He is the God of Baal, Parism, the Lord of the breakthrough.

780
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,360
And I just want to speak hope over you.

781
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,920
I want to speak blessing over you and I want you to know God has you and be encouraged

782
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,920
today.

783
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,480
Thanks so much for tuning into the Keep It 100 podcast.

784
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,440
Make sure to rate, review and refer us to your friends and be sure to click that subscribe

785
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400
button so that you're alerted as soon as new episodes drop.

786
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,840
Help us get the word out, share this link on your social media platforms and check us

787
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
out at SeanandChristasmith.com.

788
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680
You can also find us on Facebook at Sean and ChrisTismith Ministries.

789
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,600
We would love to hear from you on how this podcast has impacted you, so be sure to show

790
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,600
us some love.

791
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,360
A Keep It 100 Tribe, you do not want to miss our next episode.

792
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:26,440
And remember, relief may change your circumstance, but a revelation will change you.