"Interview with a Prophet: Julian Adams & PMC Recap" S4 Ep19

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Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa Smith.

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Keep it 100.

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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100

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with Sean and Christa Smith.

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Hey, what's going on everybody?

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It is great to be with you guys for another episode.

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We're excited.

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Yeah, you know, we're coming at you straight from Scotland.

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We have a little bit of jet lag

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and hopefully a whole lot of anointing

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and we've just had an incredible trip

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and we're gonna tell you about that probably more

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in our next episode.

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This episode, we really wanna focus on the PMC,

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but I do have to say Scotland was incredible.

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I love the nation of Scotland

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and God just did incredible things there.

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We were so honored to be there with Emma and David Stark

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and their team with the Global Prophetic Alliance.

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They call it that ministry.

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And so it was amazing.

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But right before we went to Scotland,

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we had our second prophetic masterclass,

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but this time it was the East Coast.

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And you know, you and I agreed,

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it was probably our favorite masterclass

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that we've hosted to date.

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It was.

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From the opening worship session,

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which was just off the chart.

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It was incredible.

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All the way to the closing activation.

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It was just one glorious blur of just God

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kissing this masterclass.

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So many great praise reports that we heard.

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We were really excited as we were in the DC area

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and we were really excited to be there.

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And that I believe are very strategic region

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and equip believers in the prophetic.

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And we have some great testimonies too.

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You know, we really do.

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And you know, what I love is when people experience

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the prophetic, it's life changing.

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It's been life changing for me.

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It's been life changing for Sean.

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And that's one of the reasons why we're so passionate

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about the prophetic ministry

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and having a pure, incredible prophetic ministry

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for people to walk in that

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because it's been so life changing for us.

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So when we share these testimonies, it's exciting

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because people's lives are impacted, changed,

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never the same.

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You know, probably one of the,

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my favorite testimonies that we've received so far

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was actually from a prophetic word that Sean released.

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He called that a mother and he started prophesying to her

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and he specifically went into a word about her daughter,

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not even knowing her daughter was there.

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And come to find out after the fact, you know,

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that's what I love.

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We know in part we prophesied in part.

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Sean's prophesying like destiny and purpose over the daughter

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and really just giving such a word of encouragement

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over her daughter and like that God has them

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that she he's heard her prayers

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and just really giving a word of hope

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and breakthrough and promise and destiny over the daughter.

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And the mom's like weeping.

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I mean, she's just like undone by the word.

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And after the fact, we learned that her daughter

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had gone through some really traumatic events

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and really difficult situation

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and found herself in a very emotionally vulnerable

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and fragile place.

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And that word, the daughter sitting there

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hearing the word about herself.

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Sean didn't even know she was in the room.

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That's just like the coolest, right?

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When he started releasing the word

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and the daughter gets massively impacted.

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The mom gets massively impacted

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and the daughter is like doing so good

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and experienced God and like, they just feel like

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that was like, you know, it turned the corner for them.

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And that to me is what the prophetic ministry is all about.

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The prophetic ministry carries an atmosphere of breakthrough.

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It carries an atmosphere of transformation.

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It carries an atmosphere of the hope

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and the love and the compassion of Jesus.

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And that is what we saw.

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We witnessed that firsthand.

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So that was probably one of my favorite testimonies

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and that was one of many that we've been receiving in.

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And typically what we do during our prophetic masterclass

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and that was a phenomenal testimony.

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So encouraging is that we have the Holy Spirit

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after party is what we call it.

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But simply after the first couple of sessions

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of teaching on the opening night,

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we pray for deliverance, we pray for healing,

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we pray if any of these things are needed,

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we pray for people, particularly for the baptism

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of the Holy Ghost.

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So we flowed in the prophetic that night,

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you and I and Julian.

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And I believe that was one of the nights

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that some of these prophetic words landed with people

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that really blessed him.

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But it was such a blessing to see probably a couple dozen

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people baptized in the Holy Ghost for the first time.

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It was so awesome.

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And when you do that, you know that there change

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more than just on the ministry level

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of being in a position where they're hearing the voice

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of God because when you baptize in the Holy Ghost

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and you pray in the Holy Spirit,

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it will help you attune your spirit to God's spirit.

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But also the empowerment and that encounter level

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will open up a greater witness through them.

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So we're super excited to see that.

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And then we heard a number of people in terms of testimony

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that they heard the voice of God for the first time

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for someone else or they began to identify with clarity

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and confidence, the ability to receive the thoughts of God,

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receive the emotion and heart of God for someone else

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and share those prophetic words.

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And in all the activation series,

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we had a number of them.

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So many people were prophesying over one another

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and you could just see.

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And even as we asked for the results,

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so many people were encouraged by the words

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someone else gave them.

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And so those were a couple of things that stood out for me.

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What else stood out for you?

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You know, one of my favorites was,

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and I love what you just shared,

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because it's like, it's so true.

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It's like seeing people receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit,

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game changer, you know, it's just, it's amazing.

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And they were so excited.

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There were so many people we were praying for.

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And I love watching that.

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And they were just like, they were bawling, you know,

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they were just like so touched that this was happening.

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And one woman, remember, she hadn't ever received it.

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She'd been praying for like 10, 15 years.

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She's like, I don't know if I'm ever gonna get it.

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I was like, you know what?

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Tonight's your night.

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I just have faith for it.

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I was like, let's merge our faiths together.

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Let's believe for it.

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And you actually came and prayed for her

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and she got it immediately.

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And she was undone because she's been believing

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and wanting it for so long.

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So that was just so awesome.

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But you know, Pastor Mark Lehman,

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who's over Cornerstone, he, they're the ones that hosted us.

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And that was just like so generous and amazing.

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What a great church.

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But he actually gave us an amazing testimony.

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He said, multiple senior leaders

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from the local area of Bowie, Maryland,

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the Maryland area came and they were open to the prophetic.

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They of course, wanted to learn.

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They were there, they were present,

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but they also had questions.

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They also had some concerns about the prophetic ministry,

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but like one, they were open, you know,

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open enough to come to a two day masterclass,

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which I was really impressed with that alone.

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And they came and they said every question they had,

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every concern was answered.

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That to me was so encouraging

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because these pastors walked away feeling empowered,

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encouraged, but also equipped to actually raise up

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a prophetic ministry in their church

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and feeling excited about the gift of the prophetic ministry

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and what it could actually add to their congregation.

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They were no longer afraid.

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And I think that's one of the things

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you and I are really passionate about

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is people not being afraid.

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We demystify the prophetic ministry

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because it's such a powerful tool.

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When it is done right and it's done as the intention

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that God's intended it to do in the local church,

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it can be one of the greatest assets and blessings

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of a church culture.

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And I think they really caught that.

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And that to me was just such an encouraging testimony.

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Yes, the prophetic is so profound

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in so many different ways.

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But I think of what happens when we're not hearing from heaven,

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we end up hearing from hell.

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And that's the thing that's going on right now.

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I believe the anxieties.

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I believe people that are literally acting in fear.

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The situation where people are walking under shame,

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people that believe that because of the way

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they were raised up, they will always be that way.

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We have so many examples in our world today

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of people hearing from hell.

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And then the other default when we're not operating

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in the prophetic or we're not hearing from heaven

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is that all of a sudden we begin to have group think.

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We let the group think for us.

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We become echoes of popular sentiments

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rather than have God think.

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You know, I don't want group think.

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I want God think.

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I want to know what does God think about me?

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What does God think about my future?

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What does God think about the situation

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where I find myself?

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And many times just simply God's perspective on things

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can shift everything.

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The exciting thing, gang, that we want to share with you

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is right now these nine sessions from our East Coast

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prophetic masterclass are available

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at www.SeanandChristasmith.com.

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They have just come up, I believe, within the last week.

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Yeah, I'm excited.

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Just a couple of days ago,

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I am really excited about people having access

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to these nine sessions.

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I really believe they can change people's life

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and really activate people in the prophetic gift.

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And if you weren't there and you're just saying,

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man, I love what you're saying.

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And this whole episode, hearing from heaven,

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we're going to be bringing you in a moment, an interview,

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but Chris and I are going to share some of the principles.

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But these things that you're hearing are going to,

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literally, you're going to get much more

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if you order these sessions.

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We're going to greater detail and so many different things.

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We're just going to give you kind of hors d'oeuvres,

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a la Costco or Sam's Club,

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depending on what part of the country you're from.

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And hopefully you'll make this investment in you.

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We believe it will bless you.

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And so, Chris, I want you to lead.

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What is something that you share that you think

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could really be a principle

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that you'd want to sow into our people in hundred tribe

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that could really help them?

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You know, I've always really believed

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that when we catch the revelation,

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understand the revelation of the purpose

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of the prophetic ministry,

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and that is to release and give and help facilitate

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and encounter with Jesus, it changes everything.

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In a ministry that can often be entangled in people's ego

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and people can make it point about them,

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when we lay the ego down,

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when we don't actually make the prophetic ministry about us,

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but we understand that the most powerful purpose

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of the prophetic ministry is that people encounter Jesus

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because the prophetic ministry truly is a ministry

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of breakthrough of transformation of freedom.

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It breaks chains.

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I have seen literally someone go from maybe being open

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to the concept of God,

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to giving their life immediately to Jesus

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because they feel known, they feel seen, they feel loved.

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they instantly just are like, I want to give my life.

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I have seen that again and again and again.

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I've seen someone struggling with suicide

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and wanting to take their life.

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come to church, come to the service, cry out to God,

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and God prophesies destiny and purpose,

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breaks the spirit of death.

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That word just spoke destiny.

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So what does destiny do?

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Destiny breaks off that death,

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it breaks off that lie of I'm here by accident,

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I don't have a purpose.

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Destiny is like, what God thinks of you

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and what God says of you.

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When someone hears that, it undoes them.

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And all of a sudden they're like, hold on,

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like I want this, I want this life,

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and I want to walk in what God has said over me.

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You know, I think for someone like myself

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who was raised Catholic and I had a good reverence of God,

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I'd certainly had an awe of God,

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but when I witnessed the prophetic ministry,

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it wasn't even when I was actually prophesied over,

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it's when I just saw the prophetic ministry

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in it moving in a room, I witnessed it.

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That is when all of a sudden the God shifted from master

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and kind of this like, you know, big God,

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you know that I serve to actually a God that knows us

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and loves us and actually knows the personal details

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about us. Like I said, it wasn't even the prophetic word

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over me, it was me watching someone receive the love

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and the compassion and the destiny and the plans

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and purposes of God over their life and hearing that.

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I was undone.

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And so it just got me so passionate about my goodness,

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if we could just show that Jesus loves people,

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to all these people that are lost and searching and broken,

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when we fall in love with Jesus,

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we can't help but want to share and encounter with Jesus.

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And the prophetic ministry does that.

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And so for me, that is probably one

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of the most exciting things about the prophetic ministry

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is that it is a ministry of encounter.

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I love that because really what are people crying out today

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but they want that very encounter.

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We hunger for the transcendent

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and we gotta be able to get that.

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You know, the principle that I wanna sow,

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Boo is just this principle that they say

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that the average human being thinks

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between six to 8,000 thoughts a day

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or six to 8,000 thoughts come across their mind.

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I don't know how they get to that number.

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I'm just gonna trust the experts on it.

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But here is my principle, all thoughts are not your thoughts.

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I'm approving to you.

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And this is key and crucial for me hearing the voice of God

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and going to another level.

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It says in Daniel 2, the book of Daniel in the Bible,

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verses 28 through 29, Daniel says,

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but there's a God in heaven who reveals secrets.

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That is the prophetic gang,

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God or heaven revealing secrets.

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he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar

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what will be in the latter days.

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So now this is what you would call foretelling,

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the foretelling aspect of the propheticness.

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There's foretelling and there's foretelling.

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And it says, what will be in the latter days?

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Your dream and the voices, excuse me,

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visions of your head upon your bed were these.

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So I'll let you know God can speak in dreams.

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And now here's verse 29.

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And this is the key that I wanna bring to you.

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And not all thoughts that come to your mind

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are your thoughts.

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Here it says in Daniel 2, verse 29,

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as for you, okay,

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and thoughts came to your mind while you were on your bed

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about what would come to pass after this.

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And he who has revealed secrets has made known to you

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what will be.

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So Daniel is establishing in scripture

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that Nebuchadnezzar, God revealed a sycrawize on his bed,

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but he got specific about it.

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He says thoughts came to your mind.

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You ever thought that every thought

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that comes to your mind is not your own?

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Because there's a number, let's say 6 to 8,000 thoughts.

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So let's say, let's go with the higher end

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because I think we think a lot or at least thoughts come.

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Let's just say of those 8,000 thoughts a day,

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maybe, maybe 4,500 of them are your thoughts.

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And how do you know your thoughts?

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Your thoughts are analytical, your thoughts are cognitive,

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your thoughts are based on the past experience,

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what you're dwelling on in that moment,

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our thoughts are linear.

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But then there's a number of thoughts that are from hell.

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Let's just get honest.

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Thoughts of condemnation, thoughts that are negative,

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thoughts are spiteful, thoughts of unforgiveness.

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You just think of the fruit of bad thoughts

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that come to your mind, ill will, and those kind of things.

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Those are proof that there are satanic thoughts.

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And so I don't know, maybe there's another 1,500 thoughts.

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So I said, like, I don't know what it is,

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5,500 or thoughts you think of, another.

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So maybe, I'd like to believe if you're following God,

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you don't realize, but there could be a couple thousand

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thoughts a day coming to your head that are from God.

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Now, how do you know?

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Well, thoughts from the spirit realm are spontaneous.

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Thoughts from your own mind are linear

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and out of the process of reasoning.

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And so Holy Spirit thoughts are thoughts

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that are spontaneous.

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So maybe if I could so just one quick principle

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is to understand this.

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And God thoughts come out of no place.

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God's thoughts don't have a buildup.

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God's thoughts aren't a result of you analyzing

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and reasoning.

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Jesus rebuked a group of Pharisees one day

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and he said, why do you reason?

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And what he's saying is your thoughts

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that you're thinking that are critical of me

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are coming out of a reasoning process,

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but revelation is the opposite of the reasoning process.

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Revelation comes directly from God.

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And so God speaks as we learn to tune into the spirit

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and recognize that his thoughts come spontaneous,

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but they line up with his character.

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They line up with scripture.

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And as you understand these things,

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it could revolutionize your ability to hear from God.

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Keep going, Head of the Tribe, get ready.

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We're gonna have a powerful conversation

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that Sean had with Julian Adams via Instagram Live.

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And it was such an incredible conversation.

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We wanted to bring it to you,

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our Keep Going Out of the Tribe, because it really encapsulates

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the heart behind the prophetic ministry

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and share some powerful revelatory truths

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that you do not wanna miss.

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Hey, Julie, what's going on, bro?

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How you doing?

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I'm good, I'm so glad we got here.

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I was trying to figure out what's going on.

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Bro, isn't it always how it works?

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I see so many people, man.

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And I never laugh at people where they do lives

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and they're having technical difficulties

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because I feel their pain, man.

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That happens so often.

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How are you and Katia doing, man?

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Hey, we're doing amazing.

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We're just coming off an incredible weekend of meetings

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and going to some wonderful things in our local community.

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We just had a below our healing meeting on Sunday afternoon

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and just saw 70 people getting healed.

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Here in Boston on the East Coast, God is moving.

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Rewind, did you say 17 or 70, like 70?

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I should have had a number of people

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getting healed here in Boston.

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Gotcha.

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We had about, yeah, just some crazy, wonderful healings.

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In fact, we heard the story of a lady in our community

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who had a dream about her mother getting cancer,

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which then happened just a few weeks later

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and she was given nine months to live.

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Yesterday, she testified to her that the cancer

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is in full remission, completely healed.

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In her dream, she saw herself praying for her mother

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and her mother getting healed.

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And that's exactly what happened.

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And so we're having a little police for a moment

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of seeing some people just coming into healing.

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And I love it.

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It's just me in Boston on the East Coast.

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People have told us the East Coast is hard.

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I'm so glad nothing's too hard for Jesus.

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Come on, Julien.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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So yeah, we're good.

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Hey, you know, I'm thinking about this in revival.

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We're gonna quickly get to asking you some questions

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on the prophetic, because I know there's some people

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that are on.

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And if you're on right now,

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we gotta get a number of people on and stay on.

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I'm about to ask Julien some incredible questions.

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But the thing I love is that Julien Boston,

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or I just did this research in Pennsylvania area,

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Massachusetts, Virginia, and Pennsylvania

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were the three epicenters for the first grade awakening.

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Come on.

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Obviously, you know, Jonathan Edwards there in Massachusetts

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in the North Hampton kind of revival that spilled in.

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So you are in one of the deepest wells, my friend,

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in our nation.

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And yet, as we know today, you know,

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they'll tell us statistically is one of the least church

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regions in the United States, arts, cerebral, all that.

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But that leads us into this whole subject, my friend,

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is that the area of the prophetic.

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Now you teach people, you've got incredibly

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of prophetic collective, you have Vox Day,

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which is your online school.

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You do a lot of different things.

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You're out, you're training, you've written books on it.

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And the thing that I love about you and people that,

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when we had you down for our previous prophetic master class

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when we did it West Coast, is that people love your humility,

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your integrity, and just how solid you are in the word.

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And kind of backing up all for that,

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is what the compliment you were that,

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but to state that that's so true of my friend.

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What are some of the prophetic ministry

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or prophetic words that have impacted your life?

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Like where you were the recipient of the prophetic.

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What are some things that have really impacted your life?

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Some words you were given, a dream,

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somebody minister of you that really rocked you?

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You know, one of the things that I love about the prophetic

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is you don't have to have a big name

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to be effective in the prophetic.

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And similarly, most significant prophetic words

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have come from the unknowns.

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I grew up in a home that was crazy charismatic.

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We believe God for everything that we saw in the Bible

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and I'm so grateful I did.

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And we had this old, Scottish woman

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who we affectionately called Auntie,

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who kind of grew up with us.

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And she had a dream about me.

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I remember so clearly I was 15 years old, I think I was.

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And I'd been praying and saying,

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God, what am I gonna be one day?

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And I felt the Lord speak to me

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as he had maybe three or four times before,

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saying I'm calling you to be a prophet to the nations.

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I thought, God, that is such a big thing.

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I need some confirmation.

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And I remember this Auntie, this Scottish woman

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00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440
that we love so much, coming over one day

525
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,320
and I had just been praying, literally been praying this

526
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,400
in my room, walked out of my room

527
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,720
and I walked into the lounge where she was sitting

528
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,000
and she turned to me with those fiery Scottish eyes.

529
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,160
She looked like Emma Stark, if you know who Emma Stark is,

530
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,000
I know you know.

531
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,240
And she looked at me and said, I had a dream about you.

532
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,560
The Lord is calling you to be a prophet to the nations

533
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,920
and you will be like Jesus at the well,

534
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,360
exposing the hearts and secrets of many broken people.

535
00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,360
As she said that the power of God overwhelmed me.

536
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,960
I fell out, I was 15 years old in the passageway

537
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120
outside the lounge, he's the presence of God came.

538
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,320
And that really was one of the first words

539
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,440
that propelled me into an awareness

540
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,080
of what it means to be prophetic.

541
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,880
And then we all get to hear God's voice and do the stuff.

542
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,760
I love that, man.

543
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,320
I think that's so profound.

544
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,440
I've received different ones, it's funny.

545
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,880
It was a Swedish intercessor lady

546
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,520
that was at this assembly God church

547
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,640
from like I say, in this campus ministry.

548
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,280
And then she would pray over you.

549
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,720
She said, she's a young man, can I pray over you?

550
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,960
And the moment she began to pray, it was like cold

551
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,000
for she's gonna prophesize.

552
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,240
Some people pray like Lord help them, bless them,

553
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,760
which we value, thank God for people that pray for you.

554
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,440
But she would say, let me just pray for you.

555
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,280
And then she would say, and the Lord would say,

556
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,440
and I was thinking of one instance

557
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760
that was my most significant, Julian,

558
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,920
is that I was at a conference,

559
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,240
Passion for Jesus conference, Kansas City.

560
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,800
Mike Bickle was there.

561
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,480
I had heard of him, but he didn't know me from Adam.

562
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,520
And then he had Paul King get up

563
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,920
and the guy called me out by name.

564
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480
He called me out by the state I was from.

565
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,040
And so there were 2,000 people,

566
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,920
but there was only one Sean Smith from California, man.

567
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,320
I stood up, I was shaking on the inside.

568
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,760
And what he did is I had seen levels of people

569
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,400
operating the prophetic.

570
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,760
And again, I never despise what some would call

571
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080
were generalities, because if it comes from the mind of God,

572
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,200
it's by definition not a generality,

573
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,040
it's specific to you.

574
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,960
And so all those words, but for someone to get my name,

575
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,960
and then he prophesied something over me,

576
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000
and this would have been, oh my God, 30 years ago, right?

577
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,320
He prophesied something over me then that it's weird.

578
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,160
It's a weird thing to do.

579
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000
It's like an ever ascending spiraling.

580
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720
It just keeps coming true again,

581
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,200
but at higher levels.

582
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200
And it's so crazy.

583
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,000
Let me ask you this.

584
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,360
Why, Julien, do you think that prophetic is so important

585
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,520
to the body of Christ, to the church, and believers today

586
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,560
in the hour that we live in?

587
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,400
Why do you feel like, not that it's ever not been important,

588
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,920
but why do you feel like it's specifically important right now?

589
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,560
Do you guys want to think one of the overwhelming convictions

590
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,280
that I have is that the reality of the state of the world

591
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,440
means that we have no other choice but to lean into the voice

592
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:32,920
of God.

593
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,400
And if Jesus is not alive speaking today,

594
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,600
we're all in a lot of trouble.

595
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600
And one of the things that I love is

596
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560
bright, rooted in Scripture in Matthew chapter 16.

597
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,960
Jesus makes it clear that the church is built upon the revelation

598
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,440
of who he is.

599
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,120
And that's both historically, but also his ongoing voice

600
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:52,880
just today.

601
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320
And we can only achieve so much by our strategy,

602
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,520
by our business lens.

603
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,640
And then we need revelation from heaven.

604
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,760
And every juncture in Scripture, particularly in the Book

605
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,360
of Acts of the Churches and Vines,

606
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,240
what preceded the apostolic advance of the church,

607
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920
the impact on culture, the bringing of revival,

608
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,840
thousands of years ago, was a supernatural prophetic encounter.

609
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000
And any theologian worth his salt

610
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,800
has to admit that God's voice is still speaking to us today.

611
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,960
And if you track revival history and the outpouring of this work,

612
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,760
they are intrinsically connected.

613
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,560
And it's not just about the big stuff that I need his voice.

614
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520
It's about how I raise my kids.

615
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,160
It's about how I do marriage.

616
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,320
But how I impact my space and so that when he's speaking into that,

617
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,840
I get to do more with him than I ever will in my own strength

618
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,280
for him.

619
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,320
And that's why.

620
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Oh, my goodness.

621
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,120
That was just so profound.

622
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,720
And you know, isn't that true that there's certain people that

623
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,840
move markets?

624
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,880
Yes, and amen, Meg, Jocelyn, I see you in tea and others.

625
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,120
But isn't it true there's certain people that they will move

626
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,800
NASDAQ, they'll move Wall Street, certain people that are the insiders.

627
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,160
And when they say something, commodities rise and fall based

628
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,360
on them coming out, there are certain people that when they speak.

629
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,840
And I was thinking about this scripture in the Bible that it says,

630
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,960
the voice of the Lord causes the deer, one translation says, to give birth.

631
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,920
And I was just thinking, just meditating on one process,

632
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,400
that one thing that the voice of God can cause someone to birth something.

633
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000
And I just think there's so many things in the area of movements,

634
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240
in the area of outbreaks of the spirit, in the areas of a person's

635
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,880
individual destiny, like you said, something that could birth a spark,

636
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,880
that could put a marriage back together, something that could spark,

637
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,880
that could cause a prodigal son and daughter, grandbaby, to come back

638
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,400
home to Jesus, that God can speak.

639
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,240
And as a result of that, something is launched forward that was not there

640
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:42,800
before.

641
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,680
And today we see the power of a lie.

642
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,760
We see the power of, for the Old Testament, it's probably called false

643
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,160
prophecies, and I'm not even talking about people getting up and saying,

644
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:53,960
that's the other Lord and they're off.

645
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,360
I'm just talking about a fallen narrative that does not include the mind

646
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,040
of a heart of God for man.

647
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,600
And we see the damage that that causes.

648
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,440
And it's just crazy.

649
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,440
Speak to this, Julie, because I think you're like, I can talk to you all day

650
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720
and I know people are being blessed by this.

651
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,160
When someone says, I don't hear the voice of God, I'm a follower of Christ.

652
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800
I love the Lord, but I don't hear God.

653
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480
And they're kind of stuck in that area based on, you know, whatever, for

654
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040
whatever reasons, they're not getting any insight, any revelation, anything

655
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,680
exceptional.

656
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,480
What would you say to that person that says, Hey, I just don't hear the God,

657
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,120
like Julie, you hear the voice of God, that other minister is the voice of God,

658
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,320
but I just, I'm not good at this.

659
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,640
So I should probably just stick to like here and someone else, you're not for

660
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,160
me or something.

661
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,760
What would you say?

662
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Yeah, I think that the key things I'd say, the first thing I'd say is you've

663
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,040
already heard the voice of God.

664
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,920
No man can become a Christian without God's voice calling him and drawing him

665
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,120
to himself and that you've had any counter and that if you can believe that

666
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:58,720
God is forgiven your sin, you can believe that he wants to speak to you at any

667
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,920
time because those two are intrinsically connected.

668
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,680
I think the second thing I'd say, and you see this through our scripture, right

669
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,400
from the Garden of Eden, all the way through the narrative of scripture,

670
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,440
that both saved and I'm saved, both regenerated and regenerated.

671
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:22,280
People are created with the potential and with the senses to recognize in your

672
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,960
God's voice.

673
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,640
God loves you, see the people and I've often said this, that it would be

674
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,320
highly dysfunctional for me as a father, not to talk to my children.

675
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,280
And the reality is that intrinsic to you is an ability to your God's voice.

676
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,400
The key is finding out exactly what and how he likes me to you.

677
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,680
And when you discover that, there is a flow.

678
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080
And this is one of the things that I love doing, these equipping times like

679
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,240
we're going to be doing in East Coast prophets because actually what we're

680
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,600
releasing is not just our experience, but a biblical framework for every believer

681
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,240
to encounter the other voice of God.

682
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,640
You were created and designed to hear his voice.

683
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,600
God is a relational father.

684
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,560
He's so relational that he puts on human flesh to be right in the midst of people.

685
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:11,080
Glory takes on dirt in order to be a month's people so that he can relate.

686
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480
And if you want to know what God is like, look at Jesus.

687
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,840
And that's the most beautiful thing is Jesus is easy.

688
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,200
You're in his voice is easy.

689
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,440
It's not difficult.

690
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,720
And these are, there's just so many keys that are so simple, founded

691
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,440
structure that will unlock this for you.

692
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,160
You mean, I'm just gonna say number one, bro, profound.

693
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,120
I've heard Jesus all over what you said.

694
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:34,920
I'm not a high person, but man, I felt they're no key because I love it.

695
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,680
You said it.

696
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,400
We are designed to hear the voice of God.

697
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960
And so the narrative in our hand that we don't hear the voice of God,

698
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,360
I love it.

699
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,560
You first refuted it by saying you could come to Jesus without hearing his voice.

700
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,840
And then the next thing is that you are hearing God's voice.

701
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,520
It is more on the lines of finding out how God is speaking to you because

702
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,360
we're, he's speaking, we're not recognizing it.

703
00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:01,520
And obviously, you know, they've got back in the day was this AM FM radio, you know,

704
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,480
and then they had serious FM radio and and and except for him or whatever they

705
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,000
would call it.

706
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,200
But if all you have is at AM or I'll rephrase that.

707
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,080
If all you're listening to is you're on the AM dial, you're not going to get an

708
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600
FM, let alone a serious X FM wavelength.

709
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
You have to get on the right frequency.

710
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960
And I think so often people were in the wrong frequency.

711
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,080
Maybe we're in the flesh.

712
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,760
Maybe we're looking for God because the, you have to learn the volume of God's

713
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,080
voice.

714
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,280
And this is so key because I love you said it.

715
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,480
I'm just going to throw this out there.

716
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,800
We're going to continue our conversation.

717
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,560
But I asked you different examples of how a prophetic word you mentioned a

718
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,400
Scottish lady.

719
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,400
Give us some instances where God used you in a prophetic in some and I feel like

720
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,160
they're all profound, but what stands out to you in terms of the prophetic words

721
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,280
God gave you for others and how it impacted someone else's life.

722
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Wow, gosh, there's so many I'm trying to reach for them.

723
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,800
I think I think the best ones for me are the ones where God reveals some

724
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,000
incredible details.

725
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,760
And I'm thinking of a particular word.

726
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,040
I see.

727
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840
I just saw this lady just recently out in California.

728
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,240
I was in a meeting about a year ago and I brought a word of knowledge about

729
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,200
somebody who had gone through a significant relational breakdown and I gave

730
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,800
the specific date on which it had happened.

731
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,400
And I can't remember the exact date, but let's just say September 12th.

732
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,840
And I began to describe what had happened in great detail.

733
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,440
And this woman was going through a significant divorce after being married

734
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,440
for over 30 years.

735
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,080
I haven't been cheeky on her.

736
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,440
And just in a devastated, broken place, overwhelmed by depression.

737
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Wondering if God knew who she was.

738
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,160
And as I begin to describe, even down to the date that she got divorced on,

739
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,000
she stands up and God brings healing to her.

740
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,040
And a year later, I mean, the same day she comes up to it, she says,

741
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760
you probably don't remember me, but this is what happened.

742
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,120
And she begins to describe the incredible depression that was overwhelming

743
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,720
out how that lifted off of her and how she's nodding ministry and serving

744
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,640
and doing things for God because she found the worth that she was to God in that

745
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,080
single, maybe 10 minute prophetic word.

746
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,960
And it completely changed her life so that she's helping people around her.

747
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,800
I think of moments when I prophesied in unseeing places where it's not at a

748
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440
conference, it's maybe in the office or a boardroom.

749
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,560
I often do stuff like this and prophesying over individuals to then go on

750
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,120
to make significant changes in their country or in different fields of society.

751
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,040
But all of it boils down to now.

752
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,840
I'll never forget this.

753
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840
I thought the looks they do me once said, I don't want you to go for information.

754
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,160
I want you to go for heart.

755
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,680
When God comes right into the heart of somebody and reveals amazing things,

756
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,040
all of these great information.

757
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,360
And you've seen me minister, I've seen you minister.

758
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,760
We get some incredible details, wonderful dates, make your name and all of that

759
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,680
stuff beautiful.

760
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,480
But it's when that intrinsic worth of that individual is revealed to them

761
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,840
that God is so in love with them.

762
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,520
They extend crazy people like us to bring a few words together and it changes

763
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,200
their decision.

764
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,920
That's the heart of the prophetic and that's what can be bro.

765
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,280
You just gave me some next level right there hats in the prophetic.

766
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,720
May you say I love this.

767
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,360
And by the way, that, that, that testimony is profound.

768
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,920
Don't go for information.

769
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Go for heart.

770
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,400
And would you say part of that is kind of as you're about to step it in that

771
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,280
moment, just asking the father for his heart, his love for that person in front

772
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,760
of them.

773
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Would you say that it also includes connecting to the heart of the person

774
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,600
that's in front of you.

775
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,800
Just kind of speak to that.

776
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Cause yeah, that can revolutionize someone's prophetic.

777
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Come on, man.

778
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Come on, you guys, you guys write this down.

779
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,520
This is good stuff.

780
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Actually, what I think that whenever you do function without relationship, it's

781
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,920
legalism at best and at its worst, it's witchcraft.

782
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,800
And we have got to break with the functional dynamics of what we often see

783
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,040
in how we relate to God.

784
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,960
He's relational, which means that when he feels something, he wants to share

785
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,880
that with us because that's what brings you.

786
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,400
The Bible says in Psalm 25 that the secret of the Lord belongs to those

787
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,120
of Abraham.

788
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,560
That word secret is the word friendship in the original Hebrew there.

789
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Like if you want to be friends with God, he wants to share his secrets, his

790
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,520
emotions, his heart with you.

791
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,760
And whenever I get up to prophesy, one of the things I endeavor to do is to

792
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,520
store my own desires or platform, my own desires for accuracy, my own desires

793
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,200
for respectability and say, God, what are you feeling for the person in front

794
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,840
of you?

795
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,960
And very often he moves me to tears or joy.

796
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,800
And in that moment of connecting with the height of God, that somebody comes

797
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,880
into freedom and into liberty.

798
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,840
And so I think for me, love is the free cursor.

799
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Prophecy without love is just fortune telling.

800
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,280
We don't want to do that.

801
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,560
We have to bring a revelation of Jesus because here's the thing.

802
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280
The spirit of prophecy is the revelation of Jesus.

803
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,840
In other words, all prophetic ministers should lead to a love encounter with Jesus.

804
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Oh my goodness.

805
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,600
People, my people, my people.

806
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Are you guys there watching?

807
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,120
I love the different emojis and the different texts that people are sending in.

808
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Amazing.

809
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
That thing of just having God's heart.

810
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,640
But even that thing of, Julie, what you said is that when you get up, the love

811
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,600
of wanting to be accurate, platform, all of that, you lay that down.

812
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200
And it's so, I think that's so needed that we need to hear that.

813
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,920
I need to hear that.

814
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,240
I think there's a bunch of people as God is raising up.

815
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,600
We're in a joe two time.

816
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,520
God's going to put a spirit on all flesh.

817
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Sons and daughters shall prophesy.

818
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760
You've got to know where this thing is heading folks.

819
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:37,080
This thing is heading towards a massive breed of prophetic sons and daughters

820
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440
rising up, hearing the voice of God, becoming the voice of God, because we

821
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,360
become the voice of God and release it in the earth.

822
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,840
I believe that's a major part of that versus as all of creation is in yearning,

823
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,800
excuse me, groaning in an eager anticipation for the revealing of the sons of God.

824
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,920
And part of it is that thing.

825
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,120
I love that man because I think there's such a seduction.

826
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:01,640
I feel like it's in those moments where it's easier to miss God when all of a sudden that

827
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,360
little bit of sneaky ego thing, that little like wanting to be seen, wanting to be known,

828
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,760
wanting to be accurate, I'd say, oh my God, I was in a social meeting and they got this and

829
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,400
they got that.

830
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,960
But it's a thing of stepping away from that and just saying, God, you love this person.

831
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,280
How do you want the expression that love to specifically take place?

832
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,600
And I love that thing that you basically were saying love demands communication,

833
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,440
love demands communication.

834
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Final question, man.

835
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,640
And I don't want to keep you too long.

836
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,440
And so I love everybody that's jumped on.

837
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Lily or Lily LTV just jumped on others.

838
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,480
I have always loved the prophetic and always jumped in it.

839
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720
And I was modeled it in a very great way.

840
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,520
So I have a heart for people that maybe they had bad models and they have to overcome that

841
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,640
bad modeling they have.

842
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,720
I had great models and not saying that their lives were perfect or anything like that.

843
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,640
But they really loved the Lord and they were really kind.

844
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:03,240
I began to realize, bro, that the secret to the prophetic is found in the secret place.

845
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,080
So if I could ask you, I know it's like it's almost the equivalent of one guy saying it's

846
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,800
like asking to go to someone's bedroom, you know, and stuff.

847
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,960
But hey, Maddie, how you doing?

848
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,120
I see some people they wave what's going on, Maddie.

849
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,160
So I'm going to ask you a question.

850
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,320
Everybody, y'all are going to be blessed by me saying so.

851
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,600
I'm sure because I'm great.

852
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,080
What components, again, you have no way to fully exhaust what your quiet time is like.

853
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,760
But what specifically in the secret place in the quiet time do you do to connect to the heart of

854
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,000
God?

855
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,960
Because obviously prophesying is connecting to the heart of God and revealing his mind,

856
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,000
his emotions, his revelation to others.

857
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,960
But what helps you specifically connect to the heart of God in the secret place?

858
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,360
I am so glad you asked me that.

859
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,640
I think we're, if I can go on one quick tangent, we are in a place where everybody

860
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:55,400
is looking in on someone else's intimacy, which is really called voyeurism,

861
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:01,560
experimental voyeurism, and wanting that by way of sight without any covenant.

862
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,120
And the big change for me is when I begin to understand my union with Christ,

863
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,480
and so I begin there, Jesus, I think that I'm joined to you,

864
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,320
but I occupy the same space in trinitarian intimacy with you.

865
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,000
You see, I can give away the gift of prophecy, but I can't give away

866
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,120
my history with Jesus.

867
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,280
No one can impart that.

868
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:29,560
And so when I say time with him, rather than when I do the hard work of making time,

869
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,400
of finding time to be with him, I always begin with union.

870
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,800
This is who I now am, connect to you.

871
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640
For me, worship is a big deal, the kind of unabandoned worship.

872
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,800
And I'll just be honest with you, I've got kids now, so that has been crazy,

873
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,880
but I find time to pray in times.

874
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
I find moments to spend with him.

875
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,280
I read scripture, not for a sermon.

876
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,040
I read scripture so that it can impact me.

877
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,400
These are some of the things.

878
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,800
And then the biggest thing is journaling, spending time writing out what God is speaking,

879
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,360
holding it in my heart, valuing what it looks like.

880
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,440
But if I would sum up this whole thing, praying in times, worshiping Jesus,

881
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,920
and spending time in listening prayer is what has shifted my intimacy levels with Jesus.

882
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,720
And I want to say this, we can give all the skillset,

883
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:20,840
you can't shortcut intimacy, and ultimately Jesus has called us to be with him

884
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,520
before we do anything for him.

885
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640
And it's in the being with him that it all changes.

886
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Man, what I love about that is, I feel like there are people that are trying to give you

887
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,640
shortcuts in a place where you can't get a shortcut, right?

888
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Yep.

889
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440
You can't get a shortcut to intimacy.

890
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,360
Like, you know, I know when you're little kids, you can meet somebody first thing on the playground,

891
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,760
and you go back and you go, that's my best friend.

892
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480
And I love little kids' ability to connect like that.

893
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,720
But the truth be told, I think sometimes we think we can just meet with God real quick,

894
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,400
and all of a sudden he's our best friend.

895
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,280
He's like, no, relationship takes time.

896
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,640
And I love what you said.

897
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Covenant, amen bro.

898
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,480
I love what you said about listening prayer, because God began to deal with me one time.

899
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880
I was watching a late night talk show, somebody was on there,

900
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,960
I wanted to hear their perspective on something.

901
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,680
And I just felt like the Lord started a dialogue while I'm watching,

902
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,560
I forgot, I was one of the Jimmy, you know, Jimmy Kimmel or the other Jimmy,

903
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,320
Jimmy Fallon, I think it was the Jimmy Fallon show.

904
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,600
And he begins with the, I guess they call it the monologue.

905
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,840
And they've done that since back in the day, you know, all them old school talk shows,

906
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,600
you know, they were on.

907
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,280
And I just felt like the Lord says,

908
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,680
do people watch the monologue of this talk show and turn it off?

909
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,880
And that's all they wanted?

910
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,040
No, it's because someone's going to sit on the couch and there's going to be a dialogue.

911
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,760
And I feel like sometimes we jump up out of our prayer time,

912
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,440
we just had the monologue, we told God, I need this, I need this, Lord bless this,

913
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Lord, please help me pay my bills here.

914
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Do something about my spouse cause they crazy Lord.

915
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Lord, we just pray that my boss at work is good.

916
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,880
And then we like, amen.

917
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,600
And we jump out.

918
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,360
But it's like, hold up, you had the monologue, but now wait and go into the dialogue.

919
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,240
It's like in that talk show, someone came and sat on the couch, they got comfortable

920
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:02,840
and they begin to talk.

921
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,880
And I just felt like the Lord says, you're just going to wait in my presence,

922
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
watch you've done your, you know, the monologue.

923
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,160
And obviously it's more than that, but I'm taking time to worship the Lord.

924
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,520
I'm telling the time to tell the Lord.

925
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,480
It's my checklist.

926
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Yeah.

927
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:20,120
That I've found as I wait before the Lord, as I just get still, I feel like for a lot of people

928
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,360
and we're probably right at that point, but there's no time to decide that.

929
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,480
I feel like we're too busy and modern America, the pace of modern America is in such a hurried,

930
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,560
everything is blurred landscape, but you can't make the God of your salvation,

931
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,400
the captain of your salvation.

932
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,240
You can't make the ultimate lover of your soul, blurred scenery on the high.

933
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,680
You've got to slow down.

934
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,240
And when the Bible says, be still and know that I'm God, I found, and maybe you can speak to this

935
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,560
and we'll give more plug for the masterclass.

936
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
You know, it says, be still and know that I'm God.

937
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,800
I find if I can help teach people how to get still, they'll hear the voice of God.

938
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,760
Their difficulty isn't so much hearing the voice of God.

939
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Their difficulty is getting still because you have all the other competing voices in your head.

940
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,520
You got your thoughts.

941
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,120
You got your mama's thoughts, what she wants.

942
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,320
You got your friend's thoughts.

943
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,440
You got what's turning on Twitter thinking you got whatever movie you want.

944
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,600
You got all these things, the worries, and then that's not even talking about the enemy yet

945
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,200
and all the stuff he's throwing, but the ability to get still where all this stuff just settles.

946
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,000
And all of a sudden I find as we can turn down the volume on their competing voices,

947
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
it's weird how the volume gets turned up on the Lord's voice.

948
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,160
What would you say to just the fact that people just said,

949
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,600
I've got so many thoughts.

950
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
I've got so much going through my head.

951
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,560
I'm so busy.

952
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,560
What can I do to get to that place where I just can become more still?

953
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Here I think in an anxiety-obsessed and driven context where many people are

954
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,080
struggling with anxiety and thoughts are popping in ways that become uptrusive.

955
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,520
One of the things that really helped me and I've done this in church,

956
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,920
yeah, and thanks to Mark and Patty Berkler who wrote a book called Dialogue with God,

957
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,160
is I'm processing my thoughts with Jesus.

958
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,520
I feel anxious.

959
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Can you help me still before I write a down in a piece of paper?

960
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Because eventually all of the thoughts and you'd be surprised that you probably don't have as many

961
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
thoughts as you think you do in your head.

962
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,840
Get out of your head under a piece of paper so that you can actually be still in the presence of God.

963
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,760
And that's been a game changer for me.

964
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:33,720
If I'm thinking I need to do X, Y, and Z, Z, I'm worried about this and I just write a down in my time with Jesus,

965
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:38,600
process it within for a few minutes because once I've written a down in a second out of my head

966
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:46,200
and it opens me up to being still in His presence, there's something around intimacy that just requires

967
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200
time and the stillness.

968
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,680
And I think that if you can find the space, I enjoy saying it, it helps me still my mind.

969
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,640
So a beautiful space that brings me into a calming place as I'm doing it.

970
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,040
But you know what the beautiful thing is, that word there, it says, you still know that I'm God,

971
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,840
is actually that whole Psalm is written in the context of warfare.

972
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,720
It's written in the context of the nation's raging and in the middle of that God saying,

973
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:12,280
be still.

974
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,920
And I've discovered that there's something, there's a place that I go to even in the midst of high

975
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,920
levels of tension where I'm going, God, you're the only one who can help me.

976
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,920
So I'm just going to rest a little bit.

977
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,960
And I intentionally do stuff that's counterintuitive.

978
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Like when there's a demand for us, I will slow it down, step up for a while,

979
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,520
breathe in, spend time with Jesus and not allow the rush to dictate my peace.

980
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,360
And I think those practices begin to help you because life is inconvenient and we are living

981
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,160
in a season where anxiety has been growing at us and we've actually feel like the church is simply

982
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,080
accepting anxiety as pandemic.

983
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,600
I'm going, no, the Bible tells us, ask your anxiety onto the Lord, where He cares for you.

984
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,960
And I believe that as you begin to practice taking time to be with Him, the peace that's

985
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,440
on Him overwhelms your heart and mind and He gives you peace that doesn't make sense.

986
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,800
It passes and be standing.

987
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,640
And it's in that place of fullness that He begins to speak so clearly.

988
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,240
I love the interrupt of God.

989
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,400
I love the loud, moving voices of God.

990
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120
But most importantly, I love His still small voice.

991
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,520
And that requires me to be still in order to hear His still small voice.

992
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,240
Julien, dude, you're a Jedi, bro.

993
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Thanks for taking time.

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Oh my gosh.

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I mean, that is an incredible conversation.

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I'm so glad we shared that with our Keep It On Our Tribe.

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There were so many truths and revelations that that was just deep.

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That was a deep conversation.

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I loved it.

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So many people love Julien.

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This guy is gifted in the prophetic as anyone I've been around.

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But in addition to that, his ability to break down the concepts and make them bite

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sized or understandable for people is simply amazing.

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And the guy is deep in the word.

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And he just comes.

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There isn't a religious bone in his body, but there's a complete respect for the word of God

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and for the person of the Holy Spirit.

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I am so glad that we were able to bring Julien to you guys in this incredible masterclass.

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