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Hello everyone, this is Steven Strang and welcome to the Strang Report podcast.
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And today is my honor to be able to interview Tammy Hottson Pillar from California who has
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just written this new book called Fasting for a Change, a 21-day journey.
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This is the third book that she's published with us and I am so excited to welcome you.
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We're also publishing your husband soon, but your book just came out just in time for
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New Year's when a lot of people are maybe motivated to really seek the Lord and to
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fast and your books are so helpful.
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So other than welcoming you and telling you, thank you for fitting this in.
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We had a little trouble fitting it in when it both worked for us.
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But I think this is very important.
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I fast most years.
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I've been on several extended fasts and I intend to participate and to learn from this
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book myself.
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So maybe my first question should be, how does this book differ from the previous books
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that you've done on fasting?
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Well, Steve, thanks so much for having me on your show.
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It's always an honor to be with you.
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And of course, you know how much I love Charisma and you all have just been wonderful to work
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with.
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I love your heart.
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This is my third fasting book with you all.
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You know, Steve, I've been on the journey of fasting for about eight or nine years now.
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I did not grow up fasting like most of us in evangelical churches.
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Fasting is not something most of us have learned to practice.
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We didn't understand the spiritual discipline.
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So I began fasting when I really understood the scripture in Matthew, when Jesus was talking
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to the disciples and said, how be it this kind only goes out by prayer and fasting.
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And I'm a huge prayer warrior.
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I love to pray, but I realize I was not fasting.
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That is a key component into what Jesus was teaching.
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So I just started fasting on a regular basis and started taking our local church here in
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Anaheim through fasting.
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And then as you know, from our previous books, God just really led me to write fasting with
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God, which was my first book with you.
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And then fasting for miracles, which was last year.
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But let me tell you why I'm so excited about this year.
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This book is called Fasting for a Change.
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And as we know, you and I have discussed often, we need a change in America.
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I was praying and I just felt the Holy Spirit say to me, I want you to write this book and
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I want it to be about a change in the hearts of homes and churches for our country.
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So that was the premise of this book.
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And then we'll talk a little bit more about what's in the book and how you can benefit
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from it.
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Well, it's very timely because 2024, of course, is an election year.
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And not just an election year, a particularly pivotal one because of all the things that
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are going on.
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And I know that you speak at these great rallies put on by Clay Clark with Patriots from all
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over who are trying to change.
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And how I know that you were there recently.
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How did they respond to your message on fasting?
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Well, you know, it's interesting because I think people are waking up to the discipline
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of fasting.
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I think many of us realize that it is a biblical principle.
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And as you know, Steve, you've read through the word of God throughout the whole Bible,
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we're taught to fast.
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And so I think what it is, it's people are adjusting and going, oh, my goodness, how
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have I never been involved in a fast?
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Many of us are fasting in our churches now, so it's very well received.
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But I think this book in particular, because people realize we need to fast for a change.
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As you know, fasting is something that we bring before God, not only as a discipline,
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but as an offering.
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Steve, we're bringing this to God.
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And we're saying, God, I want to get serious with the things of the kingdom.
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I'm going to submit myself, body, soul and spirit to you.
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And I'm going to ask you to do something through my fast.
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Well, you're a pastor's wife, you're a spiritual leader in your own right, and you're a coach.
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And what do you think?
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What do you see from that vantage point that people are missing other than, you know, we
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don't like being hungry and it's not taught.
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And fasting is not easy.
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In fact, in some ways, a one day fast is more difficult than a three day faster.
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Or I fasted one time in my life for 40 days.
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That's a different story for a different time.
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I was fasting for something specific and the Lord met the need.
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And so I believe in this and we published at Chris Mahouse, we published Jensen Franklin
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and a number of other books on fasting because I think it's so important.
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And there is an interest in the body of Christ about fasting, but it's more than just being
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hungry.
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So why do you think that people are missing and what do you hope people get out of the
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book?
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Well, a couple of things, Steve, I want to address what we have to understand is I believe
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in the spiritual discipline that we're learning to suppress our flesh.
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This is a food fast Steve.
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This is not, you know, many people today feel like they can fast from Netflix or TV or shopping
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or certain things.
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That's not a biblical fast.
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A biblical fast in my conviction is food.
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The literal word fast in the Greek means shut your mouth.
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In the Hebrew, it means no food.
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So when we're being taught to fast, we literally are bringing our flesh, our humanity before
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the Lord, we're suppressing our desires, our fleshly desires, and we're pressing into
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something deeper.
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I love to coach people and say, if you can say no to food, you can say no to other things.
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So we really are learning to say, God, I am not going to be tempted with that chocolate
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chip cookie or with that glass of wine or whatever it is that you want.
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There's something about our natural flesh that when we do not gratify it, when we literally
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suppress it and release it to God, I believe that we see breakthrough.
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So I truly believe a fast has to do with food.
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Well I agree with you entirely.
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And there are some people who even fast water.
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That's pretty intense.
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And I know there's a lot of disagreement on that.
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But fasting from food.
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And when you're talking about fasting in Netflix, that sounds like with people in Lent.
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You know, originally Lent was a fast.
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Absolutely.
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And Catholics would fast on Friday.
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Well that deteriorated into not eating meat, only fish.
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But it's just interesting throughout history this has happened because fasting goes all
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the way back to the Old Testament and certainly Jesus.
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And so how do you, what do you say about a fast?
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I agree with you a thousand percent that if people can say no to food, they can say no
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to other things.
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There's just something, I believe that, I'll just speak for myself, I had to almost prove
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to myself that I could do it.
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And prove to myself that I was stronger than my appetites.
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And for me at least, it actually made me feel good.
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It was, you know, kind of like winning a sports event or something.
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I mean, yes, you know, it was tough, but I did it.
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So I know that that's just looking at it humanly, but from a spiritual point of view, how do
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people change because of a fast?
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Well, you know, I called it fasting for a change, as I mentioned, because I really wanted
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to pray and fast to come before God and ask for a change.
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So what I did is, you know, I'm a life coach.
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I took 21 different topics, areas in our life, and I coach you every single day in a different
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area.
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So we talk about things like generosity.
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We talk about things like creating God's image, patience, worth, dignity, identity,
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all of these different things.
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For 21 days, I'm going to be your life coach.
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As a matter of fact, as you know, I actually have come up with videos every single morning.
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So if you're going to fast with us, I'm going to be your fasting coach.
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And for 21 days, go to my website.
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I'll be there every morning to greet you with a fasting video for the day.
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All you have to do is make it through 24 hours, we'll do it again the next morning.
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But I believe that we need to see change in our personal lives.
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I need to be walking with God.
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I need to be accountable to God.
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There are things in my life that I need to be doing better.
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So this fasting book is much more of a coaching book, to be honest with you.
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I want to be your coach, and I want you to understand who God created you to be.
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I want you to go deeper in all that God has for you.
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I think that's important.
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And when people learn, and it's, you know, usually you can't hear just once and you can't
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just go to a website.
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But when you read it, when you ponder it, when you go to the website, get the teaching,
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work on it day after day, it's almost like forming a habit or it helps because the worst
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thing you can do is is here at one time and say, oh, I'm going to fast.
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And that's usually ends in disaster.
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I know some people go on juice fast.
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I have a problem going on juice fast because of the sugar in juice.
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It makes you feel better because at least when I fast, I have no energy because food
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gives us energy.
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I mean, it's fuel for our bodies to work.
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And so my energy level goes up for, you know, 30 minutes maybe and feel pretty good.
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And then, then I crash and I feel worse.
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So I do better on a, on just a water fast.
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Other people do a Daniel fast, which is a modified fast.
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It's, to me, it's more than fasting Netflix.
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What do you think?
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Well, here, I just want to say this.
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And if you get the book or if you look at my website, I'm going to walk you through all
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the different types of fast in the Bible.
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And you're referring to a juice fast.
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We've kind of modified that from a Daniel fast to a juice fast.
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We've kind of tried to make it easy and comfortable, to be honest with you.
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For the church, we want the church, we want Christians to fast.
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So we've come up with these little routines, do this, do that.
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So I, you know, I like to say ask Holy Spirit what he wants you to fast for and what she,
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what he wants you to fast from.
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So start there and really begin to research these fast, whether it be an Esther fast for
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three days or a Daniel fast for 10 days or 21 days, or as you mentioned, Moses, Elijah
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and Jesus all fasted for 40 days.
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Now I mentioned in my book, I do not recommend a 40 day fast or just a water fast unless
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Holy Spirit has led you and your doctor has signed off on it.
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And I believe that God would speak to you that way.
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I know great men and women of the faith that have done 40 day fast for breakthrough, but
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I'll tell you what, they're ready for it.
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They're prepared for it and God's called them into it.
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I do want to say that if this is the first time that you're joining us and you're considering
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fasting, start simple.
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So for me, I do a 21 day fast.
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I do a sunup to sundown.
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So it's called a partial fast.
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Steve, my husband and I do this.
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We do not eat during the day and then we have an evening meal.
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During the day, every time my stomach growls, I begin to pray.
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I begin to intercede.
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It's almost like an alarm clock that goes off as a trigger that reminds me why I'm
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fasting and I say, Holy Spirit, I'm interceding now for my country, for my family, for my church.
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Literally that's what it is.
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That's my flesh contending.
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That's me remembering why am I fasting?
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I'm not just trying to go all day and see if I can make it till the sun sets and I can
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have something to eat.
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I am thinking throughout the day.
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I am praying throughout the day.
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I'm persevering and pressing in during the day.
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This is a spiritual exercise.
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It's a spiritual discipline.
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I coach our church for 21 days every single day, stay focused, stay determined.
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We're asking God for some breakthrough.
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And that's what I want to coach people.
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This isn't just something ritualistic.
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It's not just something that I'm going to try it.
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This is not intermittent fasting.
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I want to explain that.
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A lot of people are intermittent fasting today for weight loss.
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Although I think that's a great way to lose weight and get healthy.
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That's a physical fast and not a biblical fast.
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Those are two different things.
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And make sure if you are going on a fast with God for a specific spiritual reason that your
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mind is right, your heart is right, and you're hearing from God throughout that fast.
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Good advice.
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Now, why don't you tell us some of the stories about change that you tell in the book, particularly
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things that have happened with your ministry, your husband, the great church that you have
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there in Anaheim Hills called Influence Church.
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Give us some real life examples because as a coach, if I've ever met anybody who has
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real life examples, it's you.
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Oh, well, thank you, Steve.
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You know what?
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I like to put God to the test.
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He even tells us we can do that.
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And that means I bring the word to God and I say, God, I'm believing you for this.
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So something simple as we all know three years ago during the pandemic when COVID first broke
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out, many churches, especially here in California, were closed.
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We did not close.
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We stayed open.
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We were the church.
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We were ministering to our community.
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We were feeding and we were clothing the homeless.
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But we did not close down.
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During that period of time, we had groups like Antifa Come.
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We had groups that picketed.
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close and be obedient to governing authorities.
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We're going to believe for a change in California.
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We're going to believe up for a change with our governor.
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We're going to believe for a change with the church.
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We have a prayer wall here at our church with over 100,000 prayer requests in it.
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to the wailing wall in Israel.
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We saw marriages healed.
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We saw prodigal children come back.
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We saw women who could not get pregnant conceived.
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We believe in change.
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if told.
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And I believe we have to hold on to those scriptures.
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The Bible tells us if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation.
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The old has passed, the new has come.
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That's all scriptures about change.
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We know that when we are created into his image, we're created into new birth, that
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born again experience is changed.
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So I just want to say to people, we need a change, not just our country, but Steve, we
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need a change in our own heart.
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We need a change in our families and we need to put God to the test.
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He is a miracle working God that wants to open up the windows of heaven and blesses children.
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That is very important.
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And the change always starts with ourselves.
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And you know, we're dealing with our spiritual life because our spirits are what live forever.
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That's the most important part of ourselves.
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But we also live in a culture.
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We live in a nation.
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We live in a nation that's run by politicians.
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our founding fathers, the Christian values that not everyone's a Christian, of course,
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but Christian values were preeminent.
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And it seems to be getting worse and worse.
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I mean, we're not really here to discuss politics, but when we discuss change in 2024 with the
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election, that is politics.
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The reason that Donald Trump got in in 2016 is because people were desperate to try to
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get things to turn in a different direction.
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There were no involvements in new wars.
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Our borders were much more secure, certainly than they are now.
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The economy was good.
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A lot of things happened.
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But then all the things happened in 2020.
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When a lot of people were praying, some were even fasting, all kinds of prophets were saying
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the election was stolen and all that kind of stuff.
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And now how do we...
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I know it's not just if more of us fast and pray than the other side, we're going to win.
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God doesn't measure like that.
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So help me and help my viewers and listeners understand how us fasting in January of 2020
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2024 is going to help change things in the fall when the elections come, not only for
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president, but all the way down the ballot.
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Well, you know, great question, Steve.
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I think first of all, I have to say the change has to start with you.
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We all want to change the world, but we don't want to change ourselves.
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And we have to start with us.
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You know, I was very convicted.
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I'm a prayer walker.
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I love to pray.
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And this is just a personal story.
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And Holy Spirit's been speaking very intimate with me very intimately and very loudly.
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And he kept reminding me of Second Chronicles 714.
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And this is to me, listen, I want your viewers to hear this, your listeners to hear this.
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If you're a believer, this is for you.
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The word of God says, if my people who are called by my name will what will humble themselves,
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turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven.
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And my friend, it's incumbent upon you and I, we can, we can try to fast.
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We can do spiritual disciplines and rituals.
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We can go to church.
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We can tithe.
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We can be good.
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But if we haven't repented, if we're not honest, you know, there are many times we ask, why
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did God turn his back on his chosen children, Israel?
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God, why did you do that in the Old Testament?
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And there are times when he allowed the enemy to come in to make his children jealous, where
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he was trying to rise up in, in Israel to, to lift that up, that passion.
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And I think God's trying to wake up and rise up and within us, the love for him first.
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Yes, our country.
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This country was founded by Godly men and women on Godly principles, biblical principles,
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which is trying to be rewritten in history books today, I might add.
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But we know about America.
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But before you fast for America, are you fast for a son or daughter or church?
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Let me ask you, are you fasting for you?
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And in my book for 21 days, I'm going to keep pushing this book.
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I think it's one of the best fasting books I've written.
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I'm going to encourage you to get it from Charisma, get it on Amazon, get this book
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and fast with me.
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It's not some spiritual Fufu dust.
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I'm going to just sprinkle this out there and all of a sudden God's going to give you
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the answer to your prayer.
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You're going to get on your face before God.
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You're going to repent.
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You're going to weep.
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You're not going to want to eat because you're going to be mourning for where we are as a
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people.
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And I just that's stirring in me so much right now, Steve, I believe he's he really is raising
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up believers that are learning to war, to really war in our spirit.
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So when I fast and I pray, I mean, it's not this is it's another year.
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It's January.
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It's time to fast.
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I don't do this lightly, Steve.
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When I fast, I realize it's my it's my weapon of warfare and I'm contending for something
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deeper and more spiritual in my life and the life of those around me.
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I went in the time that we have left to kind of walk through the book and I'm glad you
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are encouraging people to buy it.
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Of course, that's one of the reasons we're doing the podcast is to draw attention to
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it.
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It just barely came out.
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It's available in all the stores that sell Christian books.
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It's available on Amazon.com, of course, and also our own website called my Christmas
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shop.com.
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So it's easy to get.
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But why don't you just kind of walk us through just very briefly the 21 steps, how you coach
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and give us a little foretaste of what they'll get from reading the book.
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And I just want to say to you, if you're looking for a change in your life and maybe you're
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saying I don't want to fast, I still think this book will be beneficial for you even
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if you don't join us in the fast because it's a coaching book.
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So I've taken 21 areas in your personal life, characteristics and behaviors that you struggle
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with or areas that you maybe you've got some ability, but you want to have greater ability.
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And every single day I coach you.
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I give you a scripture passage.
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I give you discussion questions, journal entries and then coaching steps every single day.
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So this is literally a journal.
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It's a devotional.
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It's a book and you're going to write.
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I'm going to encourage you right now every single day with pen and paper.
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Get serious with this book.
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Allow the Holy Spirit to take the scriptures, to take the stories that he's highlighted
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to me in this book and begin to ask yourself some of these questions.
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Where am I on integrity?
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Where am I on generosity?
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Where am I on these confirmations in my own spirit?
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How am I doing with my personal walk?
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So every single day you literally will go deeper in these areas of your life and you get a
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free life coach for 21 days.
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So I'll be with you every single morning and then journal these thoughts, journal where
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you're going.
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And I guarantee you in three weeks, you know, they say you can see change in three weeks.
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If you stay with me for 21 days and you literally seek God in prayer and fasting and discipline,
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I believe that you're going to see God in a way you've never seen him before.
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He's going to open your eyes.
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He's going to speak to you.
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Holy Spirit is going to give you insight, wisdom and revelation and you're going to
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start 24 much stronger than you would have had you not participated with us.
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I know that your church does this fast every year.
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21 days.
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Leading up to your anniversary.
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Congratulations on 12 years.
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And you've seen God move.
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You've already told us some stories, but what are you hoping for God to change this time?
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Let's start with yourself, your church and also what you're hoping this book will accomplish
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for those who read it.
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Well, Steve, that's a really good word.
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I received a call it a prophetic word from someone that I highly trust and admire and
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she made a comment.
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She said, Pastor Tammy, I just really feel that God's getting ready to take you much
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deeper in your own personal life, but that's going to mean that you're going to have to
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pull away.
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You're going to be spending more time, quiet time in your prayer room and your prayer
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walked.
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And Steve, you've known me for a few years.
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I am a a sanguine outgoing.
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I love to write.
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I love to coach our women.
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I have a lot of irons in the fire.
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I have multiple companies and businesses.
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So for me to sit still and not do anything would be a change in my life.
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And I really believe that God's telling me my spiritual assignment, at least for this
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first quarter of 24 is to allow Holy Spirit to really give me some words, some insight.
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I'm going to be bathing our church in prayer.
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I'm going to be just really getting a clear vision.
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God just gave me this word.
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You're going to soar in 24.
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And I believe I'm going to do it quietly in my spirit with God.
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And that, you know, if you're like me and you're an outgoing person, Holy Spirit says,
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I want you to sit still for a while.
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That's difficult.
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But when you're doing it under the power of the Holy Spirit, then you have focus.
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So I believe God's going to bring some change in many people over this next year.
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As we mentioned, we need to see a change in our election.
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But at our church here at Influenced Church, my prayer is that our congregation will truly
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understand the power of the Holy Spirit, the word of God that they will learn to worship,
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that they will submit to the authority of God, because Steve, that is what will bring
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revival in America, not a new president, not a new cabinet, not more churches, churches
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that are alive and revived.
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That's what's going to bring change in America.
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Amen to that.
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The president is not going to lead a revival.
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That's for sure.
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But we have to understand as believers that we have constitutional rights to put in office,
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those who agree with our values in lots and lots of ways, from the economy to international
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relationships, cultural things and so forth.
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we're not out there active in the process.
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I just want to encourage people to get this book, Fasting for Change, Fasting for a Change,
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a 21-day journal.
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It'll do you good.
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There's all kinds of things that you need to be doing at the first of the year.
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As a culture, that's when we start thinking about change.
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The closest most people ever come to goal setting is New Year's resolutions, which,
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you know, it's almost a joke how quickly, but at least it's almost easier just because
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the whole culture is thinking this way.
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In fact, on the Strang Report soon, I'm going to be sharing some things about goal setting
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and setting big God-inspired goals.
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And one of them is to go deeper spiritually and to overcome our flesh like we were talking
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about.
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I'll just give you my own experience.
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The first time I ever fasted was in college.
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It was during the Jesus movement.
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I was on fire for God.
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And I don't really remember what prompted it, but I fasted three days and I honestly felt
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so bad.
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I wondered if I was going to die.
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And since then, you know, it's become part of my lifestyle.
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And I would encourage people to go see your doctor.
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I did that before my 21-day fast.
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And the doctor gave me some advice that helped me a lot to come through it.
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He also kind of gave me a clean bill of health.
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There's all kinds of values physically and fasting.
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You get rid of a lot of toxins.
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You break certain habits like the habit of always picking up a cookie or whatever bad
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habit you have in terms of eating.
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There are a lot of benefits.
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You need to fast one meal, you know, and anybody can fast a meal.
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I mean, sometimes we fast by accident because we're not around food when it's time to eat.
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And get books like this.
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There are other books that are available.
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Jensen Franklin's book comes to mind.
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But do something because this is important.
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And the enemy does not want us to fast.
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He doesn't want us to go deeper.
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And if fasting helps us go deeper, he doesn't want us to do that.
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So I want to thank you first of all for writing this book.
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It's so important.
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You are such a great model.
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You are so winsome.
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You almost make fasting sound fun.
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And I hope that you can...
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You know what?
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I have to say, it's funny you say that, Steve.
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I was just on, thank you for all the endorsements you all have given me.
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I've been on many radio shows because of your media department.
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But I was just recently on a Catholic radio show and the priest actually was interviewing
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me.
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And he said, you know, Tam, I'm going to be honest with you.
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I've been fasting my whole life as a Catholic, but you act like you enjoy it.
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And it was cute because I said to him, you know, here's the difference.
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I think if you fast out of a ritual, if you fast out of a burden, if you fast out of religion,
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then it's difficult.
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If you fast out of a conviction and if you fast out of power and hope, I believe in...
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I said, that's why I always look forward to it.
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I'm going to be honest.
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I'm like you, I get hungry and I get tired during the day, but I really believe that
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God's giving me my breakthrough through my fast.
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And that's the highlight of the whole podcast, but our time is up.
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So I'm going to have to ask people to subscribe to the Strang Report if you don't hit the
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bell so you're notified when we're on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 4pm.
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And thank you, Tammy Hotzenpiller, for this book.
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Thank you for your leadership in the church nationwide, even international.
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And thank you to my viewers and listeners for tuning in to the Strang Report until next
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time.
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I'll catch you.
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Welcome back.
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Do you ever feel discouraged?
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Do you need hope?
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The world is so upside down that even if you believe there's power in the Holy Spirit,
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sometimes you need to be reminded that greater is He that is within us than He is in the
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world.
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My new book, Spirit-led Living in an Upside Down World, was written to give you hope to
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remind you of things you know to explain spiritual truths that you didn't understand or maybe
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have forgotten.
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I draw on my decades of covering the worldwide move of the Holy Spirit to give you examples
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and stories of great men and women of God from Jack Hayford to Catherine Coleman and
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many others explaining spiritual gifts and telling stories of victory in the face of
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trials and temptations.
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I wrote this book for you and I want you to read it.
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It's easy to read with lots of practical stories to help you.
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It is not a theological treatise on the Holy Spirit.
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In a way, it's a self-help book looking at the spiritual side of life.
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So if you long for more of God and to experience the power of the Holy Spirit and the power
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to rebuke the spiritual attacks in your life and boldness to stand for God, when the cancel
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culture wants you to sit down and shut up, then my book, Spirit-led Living in an Upside
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Down World, is for you.
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You can find the book wherever Christian books are sold, including Amazon.com or My CharismaShop.com.
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Remember, the Holy Spirit is here to help us now and for all the days ahead, no matter
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how upside down the world gets.
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Enjoy the book and God bless you.