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Never before has a former president been charged with a crime or found guilty.
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These are unprecedented times.
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And as Christians, we need to understand spiritually what's happening.
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Of course, we know the scripture that says we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
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but against principalities and powers.
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And of course, these have been going on through all times, but it seems that there
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is a particular attack against America.
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Hello, everyone.
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I'm Stephen Strang, and today on The Strang Report, my guest is Chris Reed.
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He is the head of Morningstar Ministries, North Carolina.
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The Lord has raised him up as a prophetic voice.
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And over the time I've known him for several years,
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he seems to have real clarity.
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And in March of this year, he gave a sermon in which he revealed
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that there was a significance about July 11th.
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It was so much that we actually reported on it on Charisma News.
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Now we see that the sentencing for Donald Trump is July 11th.
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And so I contacted Chris Reed and asked him, would he help me
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and you understand what God is saying?
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There's other things going on.
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You don't want to miss my interview with Chris Reed.
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Welcome back, and I'm glad to welcome Chris Reed from Morningstar
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Ministries up in North Carolina.
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And we all know that Chris has an amazing record, I guess, of giving prophecies.
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And I wanted to just ask about the prophecy that you gave having to do with July 11th.
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Now you gave this in March before the eclipses and so forth, which I referred to.
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And now July 11th has significance because it's the day on the court calendar
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where President Trump will be sentenced.
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This is unless, you know, there's an appeal or something else changes.
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But it's significant that in March, the Lord showed you July 11th.
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I want you to kind of share with me and my audience what you feel the Lord is
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saying during this very difficult time in our nation's history.
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Well, Steve, thank you so much for having me.
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And, you know, on March the 9th, 2024, I had a dream that I shared the next day on
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Sunday, March 10th, and the dream, you know, I kind of gave it a title just to
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identify it.
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It was A Rebirth of America.
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And in this dream, I knew that the eclipse that was coming in April, April the 8th, I
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knew that it was not just an ordinary eclipse.
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Obviously, not every eclipse is a sign.
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I fully understand that.
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But in this dream, I saw on March the 9th, the eclipse was a marker in time, and it
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coincided with a metaphorical pregnancy, so to speak, like a woman conceiving a child.
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And I said that at the time of the eclipse, there would be a significant shaking.
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And then I said that four, five, six months into the pregnancy, there would be some sort
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of traumatic event that would threaten the life of the child that she had conceived,
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as I said, metaphorically.
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And this would be like a pre-election event.
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Now, I didn't, I said it's kind of like an epic October surprise, but I'm not limiting
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it to October.
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But, you know, she conceives in April.
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It's May, June, July, August, September, October.
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So around the four, five, six month mark, something happened.
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It's just like a pregnant woman.
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You know, for instance, I know there have been those who have been in car accidents
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or something like that.
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And it, in the dream, it threw the woman into labor.
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This traumatic event threw the woman into labor, and she almost lost the baby.
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And the baby almost came at that point.
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And then the second part of the dream, I was taken into 1968.
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And I was standing on a street and I was given a newspaper.
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For some reason, I get newspapers sometimes in dreams.
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I don't have dreams all the time, but, you know, every so often I'll have one.
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And in this second part of the dream, a newspaper was given to me that said, two
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major political leaders killed in the year of the Democratic Convention in Chicago.
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And of course, we all know that in 2024, the Democratic Convention is scheduled to
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be in Chicago as well.
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Well, then the election came and I knew that she was around the six month mark and
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it was just like chaos, economic chaos, political chaos, social chaos.
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And it was like an intense last part of the pregnancy that went all the way till
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January, which is, of course, nine months after February.
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She gave birth to the baby and the baby was wrapped in an American flag and it was put
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in the baby bed and the baby's name was America.
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And in the dream, the baby lived and, but it had to be kept in an incubator until
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July of 2025.
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So this really is about a 16 month period or so from the time of the eclipse that
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happened on April the 8th of 2024 until July of 2025.
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Now there's two things that have happened that I said specifically in the original
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sharing of the dream on March the 9th.
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And it's on the Chris Reed ministers YouTube channel where I share the, it's about
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10 minutes long.
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But I said in the summary at the end, I said that at the time of the eclipse, there
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would be a literal shaking that would coincide with the start of this eclipse.
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Well, what's interesting is we know the eclipse was on four, eight or April the
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8th, three days before the eclipse.
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There was a literal shaking, as I said in the video and in New York and New Jersey,
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there was a 4.8 earthquake pointing to an eclipse on four, eight.
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Now, some people might not think a 4.8 earthquake is any, any big deal.
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Well, maybe not if you're in California, but it was in New York and New Jersey.
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And the reason being they hadn't had an earthquake like that in like over a hundred
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years. So a 4.8 earthquake, which was close to the New Jersey, New York, even down
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close to the DC area, 4.8, three days later, an eclipse on four, eight.
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And in the dream, I said I saw a calendar and on the calendar, the date, July the
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11th was highlighted.
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And I didn't know if it was July 20, 24, July 20, 25 at the time, because obviously
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from April of 24 till July of 25, there's two July's in there.
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But I specifically saw July the 11th highlighted.
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And of course, now we have now found out that that's the date they have scheduled
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for Trump's sentencing.
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But I don't think that will be the last effort or attempt to stop the man from
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running for office.
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I think, Steve, that a lot of people are starting to realize, even those who don't
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like Donald Trump or maybe don't prefer his personality, any, I think, rationally
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minded person is going to look at this and see that these pile on cases, the nature
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of it says this is this is not normal.
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There's something off about this that no one has ever been prosecuted basically for
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a bookkeeping error eight years after it happened, passed the statute of limitations.
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You're absolutely right.
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If Donald Trump is not running, I believe that it's logical to assume that none of
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this would have come up because, you know, since this happened in 2016, I guess,
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there was a lot of opportunity to prosecute this.
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Isn't it interesting that it's right before the election when there's a gag order on
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him and he's got to be in court and can't campaign?
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I mean, we've never seen election interference like this.
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But, you know, not to get into the political parts because the purpose of my podcast and
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even our ministry is to try to help people to understand what is happening spiritually.
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Because the spiritual world, as you well know, is more real than the physical world.
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But in terms of the popular culture, the news media, they don't deal with the
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spiritual world at all.
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But there's something going on spiritually.
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And I'm reaching out to you because you have insight into this world.
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And also, you have, in my opinion, you have a good track record.
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I mean, you'd be the first to say that you don't always get it right.
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But we believe that prophecy is for today, but it is often misused and abused or it's
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not precise or the critics throw up so many question marks that people just ignore it.
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And so when there is an example like we have here today, this July 11th example of where
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the Lord gave it to you in April, long before this trial even began.
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And we've done a story, we did a story on Charisma News about it, and it's been written
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in other ways.
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And the clip of this has gone viral on YouTube.
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People need to check it out.
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In fact, why don't we play that clip right now?
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The dream seems to portray an awakening starting, starting in April 2024 with a significant
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shaking going on, starting then coinciding with a coinciding with a 40 week long painful
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and traumatic pregnancy.
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Pregnancy, a traumatic event triggers chaos before the elections and the chaos lasted
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for several months.
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And the birth occurred in January of 2025, requiring care in the incubator, at least
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until July 2025.
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So help us unpack this.
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You know, there are a lot of people that don't even believe that the gifts are for today.
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Other people may have been taught it, but they don't see it in their church or they
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have question marks like I referred to earlier.
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And, you know, we want to be careful not to read too much into it.
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But don't you agree that the Lord has a plan and purpose for America and that the the
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enemies of freedom and in many ways, enemies of the gospel are not going to have the
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upper hand? What do you feel that the Lord is saying during this season?
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Yeah, well, I can understand why people are skeptical of the prophetic I do.
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And I certainly in my growing in this in the prophetic movement have made my mistakes.
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There's no doubt about it.
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But I have tried very deliberately before I share a future prophecy or any prophecy,
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but especially predictive that I run it by a few people and I make sure, you know, this
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this resonates. This is the word of the Lord.
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And what I think is happening is unprecedented because no matter how a person feels about
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what happened with the indictment and, of course, the conviction, we've crossed the
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line of no return, meaning this is the first time in American history that a former
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president has been prosecuted for any crime.
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And then July the 11th, which I said on March the 9th was highlighted to me, is the first
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time or first day that a president will ever be sentenced or potentially potentially
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sentenced to to prison.
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And so I think as as oftentimes it is in the church, so goes it in the world.
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I mean, right now we see an example of of a man with personal flaws who's, you know,
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did many blunders in his past speaking of Donald Trump, but yet God is still using him.
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And here we see a kangaroo court, an example of a situation where people I mean, he's
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he's guilty until he can prove himself innocent, basically.
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You know, there's just this this accusation.
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There's not really a crime there, but find me the person and I'll find the crime.
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And Alvin Bragg actually ran for office on the basis of I'll get Trump, I'll prosecute
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him. Then he wasn't even going to go for the case.
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And then he was. But let me just say it this way, Steve, I don't think it'll stop here.
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I think Trump will have some success with appeals.
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But, you know, last Thursday, when this when this came out, that he was found guilty on,
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I think, all thirty four counts, I went to bed that night and I woke up Friday morning
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and something happened that I don't remember ever happening.
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Maybe it's happened maybe once in my life prior, but I woke up last Friday morning the
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day after and I woke up weeping.
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I just a deep sadness in my spirit.
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You know, I'm like, Lord, what is what is happening?
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This is the United States of America.
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And now we're prosecuting political opponents.
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And once this starts, where does it stop?
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Where does it stop? I mean, because whoever's in power is just going to hijack and use the
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justice system against their political opponent to find any possible way, find a way to get
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them, find any legitimate reason or illegitimate to attack them.
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So I prayed, Lord, please show me what's coming.
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And all day Friday, I prayed, you know, I spent a lot of time with the Lord and I had
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another vision, a recurring vision.
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And I don't believe this is where this will stop.
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I think that there are some individuals that there will be no length that they will not
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go to stop Trump from being reelected.
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I'll say the reason why.
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Yes, he made mistakes in his first term.
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There's no doubt about it.
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He trusted some people he shouldn't have trusted.
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He fought some battles that he shouldn't have fought.
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We know that.
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But he also this time has learned from some of those mistakes.
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I believe he is trying to be more measured.
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And I believe that he is threatening to dismantle a lot of three letter agencies and they know
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it.
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You know, the political class knows it.
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And so I saw this reoccurring vision of an attempt to take him out like an assassination
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attempt.
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And I believe just as we can pray that the baby, the rebirth of America, that the baby's
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not lost, we can also pray that this assassination attempt on Trump and not only Trump, but anybody
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else, including Biden, nothing like that will be successful.
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We don't want harm to anybody.
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And I would just say to anybody that doesn't believe in the prophetic or doesn't believe
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the gifts are for today, what harm does it do to pray against a potential threat?
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And if we don't pray against this, we're going to see an attempt made on Donald Trump's life.
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I saw him, you know, it was like he was near a vehicle.
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And there was some person who tried to make an attack on his life, even though he had
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secret service around.
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And I really believe that it can fail, meaning that it won't happen.
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But I believe God gives us these things to show us how to pray and how to prepare, just
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like he gave Agabus in the New Testament, a warning of famine was coming.
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And when Agabus gave the prophetic word, the church took action and they started storing
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up goods and sent forth disaster relief to people in various places because they acted
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on the prophetic word.
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So I think this is ultimately where this is going to go.
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I believe as it stands now, this is not thus saith the Lord, this is me.
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This is me.
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I believe Trump is positioned to win the 2024 election.
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I believe that strongly, but I cannot say that's the Lord.
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All of the polls are showing him winning the swing states, and he's ahead in the polls
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with minorities.
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He is gaining traction like no, and honestly, I believe it's making him more relatable to
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a lot of common people, him under, you know, persecution in the justice system.
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And honestly, there are a lot of people of color, minorities, who unfortunately have
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suffered injustice or persecution by the justice system.
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So I think this is actually making Trump more relatable to a lot of people.
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And so if we can pray, first off, that the baby, which represents America, is not lost,
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that the traumatic event doesn't cause the baby to be lost, but that the baby is born
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and that ultimately we can have a president and a vice president who will help restore
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America back to the American Republic that it was intended to be, because it's produced
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the greatest nation in the history of the world, it's fed the world, it's protected
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the world, police the world.
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And I don't believe God is done with America.
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I'm praying for my nation.
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Well, I agree with you, but I also agree that an assassination is a real possibility because
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they've tried everything, the Russian hoax, two impeachments.
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You know, they thought that bringing a lot of these charges against him would make him
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lose the primary, et cetera, et cetera.
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And I'm old enough to remember these assassinations.
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I was a child, but I remember when Kennedy was assassinated.
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Think how history would have been different in terms of the civil rights movement and
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the Vietnam War had Kennedy not been assassinated.
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I can remember when Martin Luther King was assassinated in 1968 and Bobby Kennedy a couple
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months later.
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And that was a very, very difficult time in our nation's history.
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And we need to pray against it.
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And you know, it sounds like to someone who's not a believer, or maybe even a lot of believers,
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it sounds like so much religious talk, but there are stories, there are anecdotal stories
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about Christians who prayed during World War II.
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You know, Hitler was trying to get the atomic bomb before we did.
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The Allies were actually behind the first few years and people were really, really praying.
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Now, all these years later, it's hard to document cause and effect.
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And I guess in a way, it's not really that important, but we need to really, really pray
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there's a power in prayer.
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And I see an awful lot of Christians feel helpless, who are being kind of passive.
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They don't know what to say.
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The political elites pay no attention to the religious community other than to try to garner
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our votes.
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So what do you say to Christians who want to make a difference, who are concerned about
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some of the things that we're talking about, and just who feel powerless, don't know how
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to speak up, don't know what to say?
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Of course, we can always pray, but that sounds, in some ways, it's kind of like a cop out.
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We don't have to do anything.
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We'll just pray and kind of leave it in the Lord's hands.
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What do you think?
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That's a great question.
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And I'm not sure I have the full answer, but I would say this.
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I think that God can lead different people in different locations on the map to do things
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differently.
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But you know, it's one man, Martin Luther, started the Reformation.
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If it hadn't been for him, the Protestant Reformation probably wouldn't have happened.
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You know, there was one Martin Luther King Jr. who had a dream.
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You know, there was an Abraham Lincoln, one man who made a difference.
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And by the way, the Abraham Lincoln cycle seems to be almost repeating itself, you know,
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again, because before his election in 1860, he said a house divided against itself can't
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stand.
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And I think we're seeing a cultural, leading to a cultural civil war.
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And you know, people hear that language and they think, oh, that sounds crazy.
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That could never happen.
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But I mean, we're seeing 1968 play out all over again, which was in my dream.
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And I think those two assassinations, then in light of the vision I had last Friday,
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the day after Trump's conviction of seeing this attack on Trump, it's let's align with
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fellow minded believers.
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Let's support churches who aren't afraid to speak out on the issues.
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Let's fast for our nation.
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I think coordinated and individual fasting can make a serious difference.
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And of course, getting out and voting and being a part of the process makes a huge difference.
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And I think being a part associated with ministries and people who are trying to speak to the
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issues, who are trying to make a difference and are trying to, you know, work with a coalition
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of people that are trying to bring reform.
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I mean, there are a lot of great ministries right now in the United States that are traveling
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from state to state, having open air camp meetings that are, you know, in big cities
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and in blue cities because, you know, we're trying to reach the harvest.
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I think it's the greatest time in the history of the world.
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It's scary.
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It's uncertain.
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There is a literal shaking, economic shaking, political shaking, terrorist threats that
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I think are legitimate.
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And I think we'll see some of that stuff happen here in America with terrorism, you know,
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domestic terrorism, which I'm praying against that as well in this season.
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But I think we can be vigilant.
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I think that we can speak up and know what our rights, know our bill of rights, know
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what we can do, be a part of community support ministries that are speaking up on these issues
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and not stay silent because the silent majority, if we stay silent any longer, will become
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the resistant minority.
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Very well said.
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And as we wrap up this short podcast, I want people to be able to connect with you.
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How would they find out more about Chris Reed and your ministry and some of these links?
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How would they find some of these links that we're talking about?
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And then I'll be back with a final word.
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Well, you can find the Chris Reed Ministries YouTube channel as the video of the prophetic
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word about the dream I had a rebirth of America.
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