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Welcome back and thank you Brian Sanders for doing this podcast to tell me about this exciting new film
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Why stand with Israel?
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Well, thank you see there for having me on your podcast
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Well, this has been an eight and a half year a film in the making but with God's perfect timing
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We were able to release it on Israel's birthday this year on May 14th
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And so what our film is all about is to educate and inspire the global church to live out their biblical
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Responsibility to stand with Israel and so when I first started this project
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I saw all the lies myths and misconceptions about Israel. I also I
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also was
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Had replacement theology in me and that is that notion that the church somehow believes that God will placed his
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Covenantal people land he made an everlasting covenant with and I didn't even realize I had it
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and so at the time I was in Israel covering president Obama's visit with the Christian broadcasting network and
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After president Obama left a dear friend of mine and I had a healthy
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Theological Christian debate and then afterwards he graciously said to me Brian
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You may have some replacement theology in you and honestly Steven. I had no idea what that was at the time
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This was over 10 years good about 11 years ago
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And what I thought it was that I thought I might have add or subtracted from God's Word or did I take it out of?
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Context like someone must do or even spoken error of God's Word and that's not exactly what replacement theology is
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I mean is speaking in error
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But what I did was I realized I was saying some of the things a church
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I was going to at the time that Israel was stiff-necked and that God somehow
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replaced and moved on from his covenantal people and chose this new people group known as the Gentile Church
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Because he accepted his son, you know that is contrary to God's Word and contrary to God himself in his character
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and so I've also found that I wasn't alone a majority of the church actually is
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Has replacement theology that is still prevalent today. And as you saw in the film our dear friends at Lifeway Christian research
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Our pastors provided us this amazing survey of how much the church is riding the fence
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Oh, where they stand with Israel because of replacement theology
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Well, I think what you're doing is very important
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We at Charisma have supported Israel and written about Israel and involved in Christians United for Israel and
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Rallies and everything else and I've seen hearts change
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Often by hearing a rousing speaker or something like that, you know in an auditorium
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But you know, that's pretty slow
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So how did you get the idea of doing this by film because the film is very effective very professional
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Makes a very strong case
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But you don't or maybe maybe you do and I misunderstood but you seem to all you know
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Even with the title why support Israel?
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It's not like you're trying to trick them into watching something and then kind of get the message in I mean you are in a very
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professional way very straightforward to tell people why they should believe in Israel and
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So tell me what kind of response that you're getting
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Well, we began why I said with Israel. I had to answer the question. Not just biblically
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I've been in radio TV and film for over 30 years and about even though I'm a technical guy
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I'm a child of God first off and that's the most important thing that I get the word of God wonder 100% accurate
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But there's also skeptics as you know in the church and outside of the church
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So if you don't believe God gave in the land what happened in history?
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What happened at the Belfort Declaration the British mandate of Palestine and better yet the
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The UN partition plan where all the nations came together and they casted a vote 33 were in favor of saying yes to give the
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Jewish people their own national homeland 13 said no and 10 abstained
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So I realized not only do I have to share God's heart through his word, but I have to take him back in history that the nations
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Provided an opportunity of vote for the Jewish people that are national
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National homeland and then I had to deal with what is going on currently today
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Geopolitically that affects the church or so the so-called watch them on the wall that could be praying intentionally
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For everything that's happening on it in Israel today as you know after October 7th the church was still silent
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We were the majority of the church
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I mean in during the Holocaust was silent and even today Steven as you see this church is still silent and that can't be
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Why are we still silent with this people that we have been grafted in with and I realized that as a major
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Disconnect within the church, you know, it's great that we're all about doing our programs
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But if we're not concerned about the place where God sent his only son to and where he's coming back to
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And when a family member like Israel and the Jewish people have been barbarically attacked on October 7th
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And yet we're still turning a blind eye or hey, that's not in our area
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It's not affecting our church mission and what it's not a value of importance
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There's something wrong with that. I mean Jesus is the head of our church. We're the broads
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Of Christ, but I believe his father wants the bride of Christ to be standing with his first betrothed bride
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And that's the Jewish people in the nation of Israel now more than ever and so we can't continue to keep going on with that as we
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Pray and I can't wait to see Yeshua Jesus come back without even
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Honoring or acknowledging his people or his family or his neighbors that he was sent to and just let that go under
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you know under the bridge and not even give any prayer or or
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attention to it
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Well, I agree with you and instead of telling I want us to show so let's watch
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A short trailer so people can see what you're talking about
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Then I want to drill down a little bit and find out about you and find out about the dream and the vision that you had
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to produce this film
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Oh
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I'm flying
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Israel known as the apple of god's eye
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This is god's land. This is probably the only country that has a deed signed by god where he gave it to a specific
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People group and put them in a land for one reason and that is to bless the entire world
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But to Israel's enemies they're known as an apartheid state and an occupier of the land
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You know Psalm 2 1 says why do the nations rage and certainly now there's even greater rage against the nation of
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Israel and the jewish people from the united nations to many other independent nations around the world
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There is no group of people that has been more abused
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more persecuted on a continual basis than jewish people
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globally
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They're hated by everybody even the church has adopted an anti-semitic teaching contrary to god's word
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Replacement theology is one of the greatest obstacles that we have to bringing the gospel here to our jewish people
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and proclaiming it because it says that
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Israel has been replaced with the church
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When we get Israel out of the equation we miss a big part of god's plan of salvation
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As Christians we love god and we want to love him with all of our hearts with all of our being
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But we also have to love what he loves and he has chosen to love a very special nation
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If we're going to love god, we must love the nation of Israel
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That is so well done. Why don't you tell us now what gave you the idea? What was your vision to produce this film?
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Well, thank you for your kind words about our trailer. Well, I realized that
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When I learned I came out of replacement theology and realized I wasn't alone
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I kind of did this internal survey talked to local pastors where I was living in Colorado Springs at the time
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and even other believers other friends of mine that went to
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Bible college and seminary and I realized there there is a disconnect within the church and I thought
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How could this possibly be? Now? I knew I had that too because of replacement theology
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But I realized the father was impressing on me that this is rapid throughout the global church
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And I thought more there has to be a vehicle or lane that we can get your heart
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Your covenantal promises into the church of why you chose your beloved people land and made this
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Everlasting covenant with who we've been grafted in with and then he showed me this vision of a film
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That is now extended to a film series. So it's a continual education to educate and inspire the global church
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To live out their biblical responsibility to stand with Israel and as you know, Stephen, there are many scriptures to back that up
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So why does your vision for this series and when will the next one come out?
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Well, we're trying to translate our film in every language because our target audience is the global church
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And so how do we do that? Well, we have to get this film and and everyone's native language
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And so if the gospel is for everyone we believe this film is for everyone as well
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Because it's allowing them to see god's heart on display for his beloved people land
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He made an everlasting covenant covenant with and you know
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This is the only nation of people he has these endearment nicknames the apple of my eye my treasure possession
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And yet that there's still a disconnect within the church
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So we're hoping to translate all of our on this film into every tribe and every tongue
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So every language and people group can see god's heart on display
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And we also want to provide a study guide hopefully by the end of this year
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And then after that we're looking and to going into why stand with israel too, which is israel and the biblical feast
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Which we're about to embark on as it says in leviticus
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25 23 and that's you know the fall feast the rosh Hashanah feast of trumpets yom teruah Passover
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I want to educate believers that yeshu would jesus celebrate all of his father's feast in leviticus 23
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And he also honored the mosaic covenant and I feel like using israel as the example horse
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Who is so obedient in following his moedim his appointed times?
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I think it'd be important for the church to understand that as well
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You know I want people to connect with you and your film
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That's why I invited you on the podcast because over the years
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Charisma has connected a lot of people a lot of ministries and I think it's so important what you're doing
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So how can people see it themselves? How can they order it?
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Is this something that can be shown at their church?
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How can we connect you with the people that are watching today?
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Absolutely. Thank you, Steve, for that question
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Well, you can or we right now have a digital download and dvds available on our website
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And if you're interested in hosting a screening at your church or congregation or fellowship
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We'd love to hear from you. You can simply contact me at brian at whystandwithisrael.com
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All of our products our digital downloads and our dvds are available on our website at whystandwithisrael.com
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And yeah, you can follow us also on our facebook for for big announcements like the study guide or maybe your native tongue language
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When that's ready to be available for sale to watch our film in that language right now
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We have translations in indonesian our spanish translation is almost finished and we're working on nomanian
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And farsi and arabic as we speak and the goal is to get into every language every tribe and every tongue
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And so that's all available at whystandwithisrael.com
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And we'll put some of those in the notes
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And if people have questions, you can always leave comments if you've seen the film
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We'd be interested in your comments and what you think about it
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and um
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As we wrap this up. I want you to pray for israel pray for the people that are watching
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And then i'll come back with some closing remarks
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Absolutely in my honor
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Father god, abedadi we um, we just come before you and we ask for god, uh that you would
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We come to agree with with uh your people that you grafted us into and your land
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You made an everlasting covenant with lord god and I just pray in this hour in this minute right now
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That the global church eyes would be opened to your heart
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For your promises for your beloved people land you made an everlasting covenant with lord god
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I pray you remove the blinders
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Over the church that I once had because of replacement theology lord god so they can truly see
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Why you call them to be the apple of your eye your treasured possession and father that they can fully grasp your full redemption plan
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And that includes the jewish people in the nation of israel or I pray that you would put a burden on the church's heart
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To stand right now with israel who needs our support who is being barbarically attacked by their enemies
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All around them and also, uh international councils that are coming against them on a daily basis
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We're seeing anti-semitism at an all-time high since the holocaust. It's rampant on our college campuses
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And it's in our governments and it's in
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uh institutions all over our country and throughout the world board I pray you would
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Quicken the uh the church to rise up and take their
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A biblical position right now and stand with your covenantal people on land lord god
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I pray you would give them no rest as we we cry out what it says in isaiah to give you no rest until
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Jerusalem becomes the praise in the earth or to god so father in this hour
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I pray that the church would boldly stand with your people on land like never before
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And that you would get all the glory because of it. I ask this all in ishua. Jesus' name. Amen and amen
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I hope you'll watch this important film. The information is in the description below
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Share it with friends. Let's get the word out. You know, there's so much anti-semitism, especially
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Surrounding the events of october 7th and the things that are happening even this week in the middle east
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So let's each do our part. You know, the bible says to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and we can do that
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