The Prophetic Dream of St. Patrick - Director Carl Wesley Anderson

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Hello everyone and happy St. Patrick's Day. It's not quite St. Patrick's Day yet, but

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this whole program is about St. Patrick and I think you'll really enjoy it. I'm Stephen

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Strang and this is the Strang Report. And today my guest is a filmmaker who's made an important

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documentary about St. Patrick and it's going to be aired this weekend on Daystar on Saturday,

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twice on Saturday. We'll talk more about that later. And on Sunday, which is actually St.

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Patrick's Day, it's going to be on Faith TV and God TV. And so you'll want to tune in. Plus,

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before the program is over, we'll tell you how you can get it live streaming. And I've watched

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it. It's very interesting. And I've known Carl Anderson, his creator for a number of years. And

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I invited him to be in my podcast. This is kind of my St. Patrick's Day podcast, even though it's

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not on St. Patrick's Day. I'm not Irish myself, but I mean, for one day, all of us are Irish on

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March 17th. And I have this little plaque that somebody gave to me and I just thought it was so

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cute that every St. Patrick's Day, I pull it out and it's a Gaelic blessing. It says, may those who

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love us love us. And those who don't love us, may God turn their hearts. And if he doesn't turn

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their hearts, may he turn their ankles. So we'll know them by their limping. So I just kind of

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think that's cute and a little bit corny, but it's just common sense. We need to know who our

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friends are, who our enemies are. And I just wanted to share that with you. But let me start by

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welcoming Carl Anderson. Thank you for fitting this in. It took us a little time to find a time

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to, that we could work on it. But I want to find out about this documentary. I know, tell us the

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background and, and describe it. I've seen it, but I think you can describe it better, of course,

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why you did it and what the viewer will get from it. Absolutely. Steve, thank you for inviting me

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on your show here. It's really an honor. And, and I might look Irish, by the way, to the whole

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audience if you're watching, watching the podcast, not hearing it, but I'm actually 100% Scandinavian.

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So if you can believe that, but it's quite fun. I must say when I go to Ireland and I get through

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the gates and they just say, let that guy in is one of us. But I'm not really not one of them. But

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there you go. I just love the fact that, that God called me to Ireland. And where this documentary

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came from initially is that my first sort of port of call ever when I got called by the Lord, I

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came to faith at the age of 20 to Jesus Christ, a living faith. And shortly thereafter felt the

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call as an evangelist. So I was in theological training and part of a great thriving church,

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and they planted a church in the south of Ireland and invited me for the summer to come and be sort

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of an equipper there. I equipped people in how to share their faith. I preached on the streets of

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Ireland. I was in Calarney and the southwest coast there. Don't you know? So what happened is on my

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23rd birthday, which I hate to date myself for this, but that was 30 years ago. So now you can

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figure out just how aged I am. I was taken as a surprise by our pastors out to an island. It's

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called Skellig Michael and it's on the southwest coast of Ireland about 11 miles off the coast. You

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have to take a boat to get there and you get out there. And basically there are these stone steps

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going up to an ancient monastery. And there I learned the history of, first of all, St. Patrick

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himself, who came to Ireland in the fifth century. And as the film will unfold and you see it, you'll

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discover he was actually, believe it or not, not Irish himself. So you might say, well, but we

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celebrate him every 17th of March. Yes, we do. But we're actually celebrating an apostolic evangelist

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who was called by God eventually in his life to go there. His initial time in Ireland was as a

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slave. And I discovered his story when I went out to Skellig Michael. And what happened is for

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literally hundreds of years, Steve, men and women followed the passion of St. Patrick and his love

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for Jesus Christ and became monks and nuns and followed this sort of way of life of worship and

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of meditating on the word of God. And so they built this particular monastery. It's called the

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monastery in the clouds. It's literally 600 stone steps up to get to it. And it was a place of

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worship. And I was introduced so all the way back 30 years ago to the Irish heritage. And of course,

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what happened for hundreds of years was they brought the gospel to the areas of pagan darkness

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over in Scotland and England and then onto the coast of Europe and the mainland. So very inspiring.

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We can talk more about Patrick, but that was my first introduction. Well, Ireland was entirely

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pagan before he came. And the whole country converted to Christianity. And today is one of

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the most Catholic countries, I think, in the world and very devout. And they honor St. Patrick's,

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the Irish do, you know, this. And then, of course, is the diaspora of the Irish around the world.

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And largely to the United States, I think they've taken their customs with them. But so many kind

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of myths have grown up around St. Patrick's. So just kind of walk us through the documentary,

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what people say, what they will learn about him and how they'll be inspired.

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Yeah. So part of my calling, Steve, is to actually go on location to places all over the world and

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believe that as I'm there, the anointing that was was was apparent in the lives of these particular

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saints or people will flow through from that area that's it's still sort of in the land,

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it will flow through the media and touch people's lives. And that's what people testify when they

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watch these episodes, they sense the anointing, the presence of God. So what we're going to learn

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is we're going to learn of his story. First of all, this episode is really a great way to learn

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about dreams, because Patrick was initially brought out of Ireland by a dream. And then later,

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he was brought back to Ireland by a dream. So to the point of learning his story, at least one of

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the main themes is to learn how God spoke to him and how those dreams led him. And then we have

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also included in the film some experts talking about how to encounter God in your dreams. So

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the story sort of unfolds, you'll find me there in in the area of down Patrick first. And it's great

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because I'm talking about the fact that I'm in Ireland, but actually, our story doesn't begin here.

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It begins over in England, because guess what? He was of a Celtic Roman family. So he wasn't even

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Irish by heritage. He was taken over to the area of down Patrick by by raiders who he was enslaved.

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What you'll what you'll sense first is this Patrick that was a man of passion, he was a man of

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prayer. He wrote in his journal in those early years in Ireland that he would seek the Lord day

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and night. He would seek him while he was walking in the fields or on the mountains. He would seek

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him in the rain. That's his own journal. I'm sure it rained a lot back then as well. He saw him in

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the snow. He saw him in the wind. He saw them in all the elements. He sought the Lord. And he said

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in his journal hundreds of times a day. So if you think about that kind of commitment to Christ,

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he was worshiping the Lord literally hundreds of times a day seeking the presence of God as a result

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of that kind of commitment, God sends him a dream. And from the dream he escapes goes back to the

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area of England where we believe he was from. And I interview an amazing monk. He's actually a modern

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monk, David Cole. And his name is also Brother Cassian as how he's known. And he gives us the

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history of Patrick from the place that we believe Patrick was from and returned to. Then you can

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imagine he gets back to hearth and home. He's safe with his parents. You'd think, well, he'll never

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go back, right? You'd think if I was safe and sound, why would I want to go back to the place where

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they mistreated me or I was a slave? But indeed one night he gets another dream. And it's an

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incredible dream. And in a sense this dream, the Irish that he had left and departed from,

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we're inviting him to come back and serve among them. So the film unfolds this incredible story

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of his mission. And we actually have some great footage that we captured. It's historical recreation

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footage of Patrick and his boat arriving. We have in the film two beautiful music videos as well

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that are original songs that this Irish and English couple created. And they are just beautiful

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depictions of Patrick's story and one of his ancient poems called The Breastplate of Patrick,

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wherein he talks about Christ being everywhere, Christ above me, Christ beneath me, Christ at my

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feet, Christ on my right, Christ on my left, Christ in the mouth of everyone that thinks of me,

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Christ in the mouth of friend or stranger. So if you think about that commitment, you just go,

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wow, he really understood that the presence of Christ is everywhere.

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That's great. And you know, at the end of the program, we're going to tell people how to access

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this. But you told me that this really grew out of a book that you wrote called Love Speaks.

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Kind of talk to me about that and maybe a little bit about your book.

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Yeah. Thank you, Steve, for asking. So the book came out of a very serious form of cancer,

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a cancer battle that I encountered. It was 10 years ago this year that I was diagnosed with a

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very, very serious form of melanoma, skin cancer. And it had grown into my lymph nodes. So by the

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time that I caught it, it was very, very deadly. And just for the viewers, it was that moment of,

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like, we've all had them where literally your world falls out from under your feet. And I was not

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given much time to live in the initial diagnosis. So what do we do in that case? Well, I decided not

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to blame the Lord. I decided to run after God with all of my heart because I look at cancer,

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particularly as a very strong weapon of the enemy against us. We are called to live a life that

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reflects God's glory and part of that is health and healing. So I felt like this cancer was an

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attack of the enemy. And as I prayed about it, the Lord told me, yes, he is trying to kill you

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before your time. And you must be as aggressive fighting him as he is at fighting the time.

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So you would have been in your early 40s at the time. I was. That's pretty young to be dealing

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with so serious a health condition. And usually those cancers are, you know, deadly. And so

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what made the difference? Did you receive prayer? Was it chemotherapy? Was it all of the above?

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You know, someone's probably watching who's battling cancer right now. So encourage them.

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Absolutely. Just yeah, any of you out there, if you happen to be battling cancer at the moment,

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I encourage you first seek the Lord. I remember I was traveling in London and a brother there said

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to me, you must silence every voice except God's. I never forgot that. So that summer, what made

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the difference for me was I sought the Lord. And he told me early in the summer, Carl, I'm gonna,

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I'm gonna speak to you face to face about this. I'll speak to you eye to eye. Psalm 32, verse 8.

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So I heard the Lord saying he's gonna, he's gonna make it clear which treatment to take. Now, in my

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case, melanoma is battled in the body by what's called immune therapy. So it's a little bit different

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from chemo. Some of you out there, if you're watching this, might have to be taking chemo,

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which, which kills cells. Immune therapy is meant to build your cells. But in so doing,

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it gives you a fever because it's trying to tell your body to recognize the cancer as a threat.

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There's something missing in me where it didn't look like it was a threat. So, so I'm giving four

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options. None of them looked very good in terms of they all had side effects and they're all shots.

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And I don't like needles. So I'm like, but Lord, you told me I have to be as aggressive in fighting

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this. I felt like the Lord say he's invented medicines. He is behind some of the great breakthroughs

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we've had. So did I have prayer? I had prayer every day. I had intercessions praying. My wife and I

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were praying. Everyone's praying. But with the prayer, I felt like the Lord say, take the medicine.

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So I had four options. At the end of the summer, over one weekend, the Lord answered me as to which

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one to take. And he had eight different ways or contacts that he made with me that showed me

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which way to go. You say, well, what were they? Well, I was standing on a Bible verse. You know,

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I am the Lord that heals you. I had a living verse from scripture where the Holy Spirit

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breathes upon it and makes it real for you. Mine was from Joshua one. I had a vision and prayer

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that weekend. The Lord sent me a dream, which is what this St. Patrick film is all about. In my

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dream, my oncologist appeared and showed me in symbolic language, which is the language of most

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dreams, which way to go. I had a providential moment where God put a man in front of me who was an

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old friend, a Jewish man who had been through cancer and survived it and looked at me and said,

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God will speak to you. So I had all these ways. And so what I ended up doing was I chose the path

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he told me to take, which by the way, it was very difficult. And just to let people know,

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my testimony is that I personally had to endure a week at a time of a fever, five days of length,

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69 weeks in a row of fevers to battle this disease. So if you hear nothing else today,

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let me just share with you the Holy Spirit is with you. The Lord never promises you,

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you won't go through the battle or through the fire. His promises, he will be with you. He'll be

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alongside you in it. He'll be ahead of you in it. He'll be behind you. His love speaks. So I wrote

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down all of that in a book. It became Love Speaks, the book. This is the new edition. We published

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this during the cancer battle and it's very simple writing. It's Love Speaks 21 Ways to Recognize

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God's Multifaceted Voice. Way number 11 happens to be Dreams and that is the basis of this film

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and the storytelling of St. Patrick. So the book obviously is available on Amazon and tell people

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about your website and about your ministry as we wrap up the podcast and how people can access this

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film, live streaming on your website, which is excellent, but also I want to encourage people

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to watch Daystar on Saturday, which is actually the day before St. Patrick's Day at seven in the

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morning central time, which is eight o'clock where I live and the same thing 12 hours later,

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seven o'clock in the evening, eight o'clock Eastern time, and then on Sunday, on Sunday,

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St. Patrick's Day itself, it's on God TV and Faith TV, but we don't know the times. People can

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Google it and find out later or they can go to your website. So tell us about your website and

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your ministry. Thank you, Steve. Yes. The Born to Blaze Ministries is our equipping evangelistic

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ministry. I've so far traveled in 25 nations and I preach and equip the church how to hear God's voice

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more clearly and more often. And so the website that you can catch the show streaming over the

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next long period of time, we'll have it there for free loaded. It's born to blaze.com, very simple,

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so B-O-R-N-T-O and then blaze like fire. Born to blaze.com. That has the episode streaming live.

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And then if you want to go directly and learn more about the book, there is a link there as well.

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We do have a book site. It's the title of the book, Love Speaks and it's Dot Today. We have it on

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sale through our site. It is also available worldwide on Amazon and it's a great encouragement.

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I encourage people to watch the episode, learn what God is saying to you through your dreams

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and how to interpret your dreams, and then go through the book and go through the series

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with there's different links and ways you can access through donation all 21 episodes.

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We designed the series to follow the book so there are 21 chapters of the book, each one a way to hear

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the voice of God starting with the number one way, which I love to say is the Bible, the word of God,

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the only infallible way to hear his voice right here. The other 20 can be fallible because you

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and I are humans, but this is the way to hear God's voice. So we start there and we go all the way

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through the list, all the way down. The least common is the audible voice. It's very rare and

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there's a reason for that. Also, you'll note that the Trinity is speaking. So Jesus Christ himself

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has certain ways to be speaking to you. The Holy Spirit from within has beautiful ways and the

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Father himself has beautiful ways. So all of that is accessible and I encourage people to dig

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deeper and go after that intimate lifestyle with Jesus Christ. Well, Carl, thank you for sharing

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that and I'd just like to say on a personal basis as I've gotten to know you. You're a very unique

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person with a very unique ministry and a lot of people may not know that you're really a missionary

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yourself. I don't know, maybe I've never heard why you call yourself, but I'd call you a media

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missionary and people can find out more, of course, on your website. And you did not ask me to do this

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and I'm just doing it spontaneously because I feel led to, but I've decided to be one of your donors

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because I believe in what you're doing. And the media, everybody knows why to mess the media is

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and there's relatively few ministries providing an alternative, but what you do is very beautiful.

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It's very professional. We need more of it. We need more people. We need the Lord to raise up

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more people with the kind of vision and the passion that you have. So I want to thank everyone

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