The Trump Card with Pastor Mark Burns

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Hello everyone, I'm Stephen Strang and welcome to this special edition of the Strang Report

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for Thursday, February 22nd.

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Now we celebrated President's Day a few days ago, but today was actually George Washington's

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birthday.

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I always like to point that out because I'm interested in historical trivia.

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We're going to talk about another president today and that's President Donald Trump.

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And I have the privilege of interviewing a man who knows him very well as Pastor Mark

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Burns.

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He is pastor of Harvest Faith Center in Greenville, South Carolina.

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And he wrote the book called The Trump Card, which I had the privilege of publishing.

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And now that the election is really heating up.

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I thought that it was important to find out what's going with the election.

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I've been seeing Pastor Burns all over social media talking about it.

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President Trump even gave him a shout out in a South Carolina rally a little bit ago.

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And most of you who know me know that I wrote this book called God and Donald Trump.

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And we're not here to talk about my book, but I know the subject very well.

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And I wanted to get an update from Pastor Burns.

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So I'll welcome you and thank you for fitting this in.

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We had a little bit of trouble, but we fit it in right before the South Carolina primary.

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So that's your home turf.

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What do you think is going to happen in that primary?

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Well, Steve, first of all, thanks for having me on.

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It's always a pleasure to be with you and your wonderful podcast.

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And again, thank you for what you do for the nation and the kingdom of God.

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The South Carolina primary is going to be a blowout for President Donald Trump.

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Again, I'll be with him tomorrow as we do our last get out to vote rally and rock here

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in South Carolina.

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Well, I'll be speaking and just giving my heart about the Lord Jesus Christ and why

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believers need to continuously support Donald Trump as the 47th president of the United

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States of America.

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So it's going to be a blowout.

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The president is leading right now by 60 percent.

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And it's sad because, you know, Nikki Haley, the former governor of the state, the great

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state of South Carolina, I think is going to be embarrassed.

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But she's still in the race and she has a right to be in the race.

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But I think it's now time, especially after tomorrow, and I'll be with the president

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at the victory party as we celebrate him sweeping South Carolina.

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Well, let me start by asking how you were connected with Donald Trump.

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I know a little bit of the story because I've interviewed you before and published your

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book and so forth.

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But I think it's an interesting story because there are a number of Christian leaders who

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the president knows, of course, and respects, but you seem to have a special relationship

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with him.

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So how did that happen?

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Well, you know, it goes back to 2015, Steve, and you're absolutely right.

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You're a charisma and you're self-published, my book, the Trump card, fighting racism with

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Trump's policies and not Black Lives Matter propaganda.

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So all your listeners need to go out to Amazon and buy it.

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But it really shows you an intimate view of Donald Trump and how he's been fighting for

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years before he became president for not just Black people in America, but the underprivileged.

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But how it all started goes back to 2015, and I'll try to be short as possible.

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But it was in this meeting where I was just happy to be in the room.

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The Giants were there.

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Dr. James Doblin was there.

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Franklin Graham, Paula White, you know, so many Giants, Jensen Franklin, were there.

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And I was just happy to be happy in the room.

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Didn't think I had anything to add.

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But long story short, it was at a moment where I was sitting at the head of the table,

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staying directly at Donald Trump, and the Lord told me, Mark, I placed you here.

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The Holy Spirit began to repeat this over and over again.

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I placed you here.

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You belong here.

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And I heard that.

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And once I heard that, my posture even began to change, Steve.

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I became this emboldened person.

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Like, I wasn't just happy to be here, but I was predestined to be there.

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And I asked this one question that changed my life.

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And here am I, eight years later, still in the center as an official surrogate of the

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2024 campaign.

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And the president, as he just said a couple of days ago, my pastor, that I asked this

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one question, when you become or if you become president, what are you going to do to bridge

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the gap between the black community and the Republican Party?

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And that excited him.

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He was actually said, that's why I'm here.

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This is why I brought you leaders here so that we could begin to tackle some of these

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tough questions.

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And it was at that moment where I believe he discovered he could trust me.

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And the Lord told me to show the world that this man is not a racist.

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I was a black man born and bred in the great state of South Carolina, the state that seceded

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first from the union, during the Civil War, to show the man, show the world that that

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man was not the racist they try to paint him out to be.

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And I prove him to be right because he is clearly the blackest president that we've

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ever had because of the policies that he's pushed forward to raise up not just the black

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community, but all Americans in this great nation.

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And of course, the black community is supporting him much, much more than they did George W.

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Bush or some of the other Republicans that have run recently.

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But the irony, which I actually go into one of my books, this book called God Trump of

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the 2020 election, which I wrote four years ago.

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There's a whole chapter on Donald Trump, the black community and the Republican Party.

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And I write about what everyone should know, but a lot of people don't know that in 1900

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or thereabouts, there probably was not one Democrat black person in America because the

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Republican Party was started in 1856 to fight slavery and Abraham Lincoln, of course, was

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a great emancipator.

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But that all kind of shifted in the depression.

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And then later with Lyndon Baines Johnson and the Great Society and the Civil Rights

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Act and so forth.

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But now the Democratic Party thinks they have the black vote.

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They can count on it.

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But that is beginning to shift, isn't it?

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Absolutely.

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And you got a list of black Democrats, starched black Democrats who have been a starched opponent

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of Donald Trump from day one by the name of Charlie Mane, the God.

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He's not a God.

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There's but one living God and that is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

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But that's his stage name, Charlie Mane, the God, who is one of the main co-hosts for

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the show called the Breakfast Club for him to come out against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,

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particularly talking about how the open border is affecting the black community, how I was

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just on a show recently in the heart of Atlanta.

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Dr. Jamal Bryan and his new birth ministry, even out of his own mouth, said that not all

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of not him and all of his audience are even 100% behind Joe Biden because they're seeing

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that black people, particularly black men, are leaving the Democratic Party in masses.

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And again, this two tiered injustice system that they see what's happening to Donald Trump

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has happened to black men for 400 years.

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And you made an interesting point, Steve, about how the Democratic Party essentially

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has manipulated the black vote and the black community to push their agenda.

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In reality, the Democrats are enslaved masters even now to the black community.

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Republicans are friends to the black community.

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Democrats are slave masters to the black community, but yet they have manipulated their roles

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by putting up, you know, Lonnie Bang Johnson, as you mentioned, I will have these inward

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folks voting for Democrats for the next 100 years.

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I'll keep implementing social services, social programs to essentially win or combat the

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Southern strategy in the Southern states to manipulate black people for voting for Democrat.

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But you remember Martin Luther King battled with London Bang Johnson.

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Martin Luther King battled with John F. K. pushing the civil rights bill.

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And that was not a top priority for the Democratic Party.

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Remember the KKK came from the Democratic Party, the Jim Crow laws that was designed

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to keep black folks in their place after reconstruction was designed and birthed by the Democratic

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Party.

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And not one Republican.

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Not one Republican.

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Go even further back, Steve.

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They hold against the Republican Party.

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You know, they say that Nixon didn't call Martin Luther King.

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I go into this in the book.

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Nixon called him while he was in prison and Kennedy did call him.

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Well, good for Kennedy.

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But I mean, to have a whole shift based on and then to overlook the Jim Crow laws.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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Steve, let's talk about this because you brought up a very interesting point that most people

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don't even know about President Richard Nixon.

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And that's exactly what's happening in the black community.

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And that is starting to break because black people are no longer just voting based off

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of emotion and feeling.

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They don't no longer want the kumbaya singing amazing grace black church going, but not

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offering any policies.

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Now that's what happened to Richard Nixon.

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If they want to say Richard Nixon was not a friend of the black community because he

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didn't call to get Martin Luther King out of jail that time when Colorado Scott reached

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out to him.

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And Eisenhower, President Eisenhower, made sure that Nixon, who was the vice president

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at the time, and the Republican nominee for president, not get involved.

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Now what they failed to mention is when he became president, we don't talk about what

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he did when he was actually in power to create policies that changed the life of black community

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till this day.

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And he doesn't get the kind of a credit that he deserved because he's overshadowed by

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Watergate.

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But there was about a man who was actually one of my mentors, Dr. Bob Brown, who was a

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senior advisor to President Richard Nixon, who was the first person to begin to have

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the conversations to get Nelson Mandela out of prison.

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Go look it up.

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This is all historical documented things.

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And Dr. Bob Brown from North Carolina spearheaded getting Nelson Mandela doing the heart of

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apartheid and was devoid between the United States government behind the scenes to the

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South African government.

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He marched with Dr. King.

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He was one of the financiers and one of the planners of the Civil Rights Movement.

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Now he was hired by Richard Nixon.

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He spearheaded the creation of the 8A, 8-alpha program that was specifically designed to help

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create black businesses that they could do business with the government.

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That's how we got Ebony Magazine.

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That's how we got Jet Magazine.

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But that's how we have so many different programs that are led by the black community.

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There was one black-owned, used car salesman in America doing his presidency.

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At the end of his presidency, he had over 600 car ownership.

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There were no staff military officers, black military officers that was rare until Richard

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Nixon through the office of Dr. Bob Brown.

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Dr. King, yeah, he didn't call Dr. King during that time, but that's my point.

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That's emotionalism.

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We need not emotionalism.

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We need policies.

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It's not just because of the color of my skin.

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That's another thing.

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We got to stop worshiping the creation and start serving the creator.

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That is Yeshua, Jesus, our Messiah, the living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and James,

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until we get more pastors, black or white, Hispanic, Asian, whatever your race is.

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If you are a believer of the Lord Jesus Christ, you need to open up your mouth as a leader

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and say, does save the Lord, regardless of the color of our skin.

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That's why people are looking at Donald Trump through a second pair of lenses that they

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are ignoring.

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It's easy to support Donald Trump.

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Just look what he did for the black community.

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What HPCU right now would have been out of business had it not been for Donald Trump

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signing an executive order, giving them the money, get the Steve, that President Black

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Obama took away from the historically black colleges and university.

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That's what he did under his watch.

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Yet he's a black savior for the black community, but yet we still have the lowest economic

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in America.

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We own less homes.

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We kill more of our own babies.

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These are things that are true policies that are affecting our community.

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That's why Donald Trump is winning more and more black votes.

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People are seeing the two tiered injustice system that is happening to him, how they

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are creating laws, Steve, just to try to put this man in jail and hope that he doesn't

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become president.

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He is the, oh my Lord, what is the Russian, my mind is blank, the Russian opposition leader

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that just died.

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Right.

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Let's talk about this two tiered system.

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I read something that I thought was very interesting that there's so many black men

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in particular who understand how the system is used against them.

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Let's say I'm saying that in a general sense.

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And what's happened is I think Donald Trump has 91 charges against him and, and they're

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they're frivolous when you find out what they are.

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And if he had retired and gone back down to Mar-a-Lago and gotten out of politics, there

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wouldn't have been one, not one.

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Not one.

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And they know that most of them are going to be thrown out on appeal, but it'll be after

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the election.

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They're trying to wound him.

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They're trying to keep him out.

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I mean, this is like a banana republic.

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And I just came from national religious broadcasters where he is speaking tonight.

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I'm missing it, but he's speaking and it's going to be a great rally, I'm sure.

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But I was talking to someone and we were saying if they can bring down a president of the

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United States, the most powerful man in the world at one time, and one of the most powerful

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personalities of any president we've had, I mean, compared to Joe Biden or George W.

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Bush, you know, or some other presidents we've had, I mean, he is a dynamic.

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If they can bring him down, pastor, they can bring any of us down.

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If we get on the wrong side of the powers that be in Washington, D.C. or wherever they

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are, which President Trump called the swamp.

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He's trying to drain the swamp.

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And it's like the swamp is doing everything they can.

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It's more than just a Democratic party.

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I mean, other Republicans want to get rid of Donald Trump.

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What do you think is going to happen with this election?

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Well, I believe that it's truly the fight for the heart of this nation.

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I believe that the American voice is proven right now that they're not going to allow

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what happened in 2020 to happen in 2024.

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That's why the George Soros and their dog whistle messages about sending out, and this

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is why every believer that's going to watch this podcast, to pray for Donald Trump, to

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pray for him, to cover him, pray for his health, pray for his safety.

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When you see George Soros' son, Andrew Soros, who is now in the air in control of the Soros

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money, is tweeting out messages that has $47 bills and a bullet hole saying something

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has to be done.

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This is real messaging.

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Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

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I'm only telling you that what it looked like to the majority of people who read that tweet,

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that's why it made so much noise.

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They are going to do whatever it takes to try to stop Donald J. Trump from being the

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next president.

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Why?

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Because he's tripping away the power of the wealthy and the rich and the cabals that control

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our country, and he's literally giving it back to the will of the people how the Constitution

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was designed.

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For it's not a living, breathing document.

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It should be interpreted as it was written.

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Donald Trump knows how to do this because he was once was, as he said, one of those

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oligarchs who controlled the systems of our nation.

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He knows how he's done, and he's trying to break it up.

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That's why he's still the number one contender for the Republican nominee.

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He's all but in name, the Republican nominee for president of the United States of America

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and by almost every poll, even those from the liberal, evil legacy media, has Donald

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Trump beating Joe Biden in a head-to-head race.

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That's why they keep trying to entice Michelle Obama to jump in the race.

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Now the governor of California, they're trying to figure out, because Democrats don't even

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want Joe Biden to be the nominee, but he's just sitting present.

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Well, there's so much I would like to talk about.

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We need to do another podcast, but as we wrap this one up, I want to ask you what you say

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to Christian people.

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I want to know because I want to use some of what you have to say, because I've been

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in conversations even this week at National Religious Broadcasters with people that said,

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Donald Trump has my vote.

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I'm pro-life and all this kind of stuff, but boy, I wish you wouldn't tweet or I wish

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you wouldn't be so mean.

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Do we hold that?

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Joe Biden has said some pretty mean things when you think about it, if he can even complete

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thought.

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But why do you say to people like that, because I've seen you on interviews saying that you

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know that he's accepted Christ.

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But it's like Dr. Dobson said who you mentioned a minute ago.

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He said, if anything, he's a baby Christian, and we don't have time to do a deep dive,

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but I do want to know how you would answer people who are so critical of Donald Trump's,

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you know, talk about emotionalism.

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In my opinion, it's emotional to be upset because he uses a few words.

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You know, in today's society, they're pretty mild, but they're the kind of thing that my

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mother would have washed my mouth out with soap when I was a kid.

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And yes, we wish he would maybe talk a little bit more like Christians do.

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How would you answer people who are so critical of some of those things that are part of his

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personality?

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Well, I'll tell you exactly what I told the president, because to me it's pretty easy.

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I have a great memory.

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I'm a student of the Word of God.

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And so for all these believers that come to you and say, I love him, I vote for him, but

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I wish he would not say certain things that rubs people the wrong way.

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Where my mind goes to Peter, my mind goes to the most powerful, the leader of the apostles,

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Peter, the same person that Jesus once called Satan, get thee behind me, Satan, but also

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the same person that took a sword and cut the ear off of the high priest's servant

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in anger, the same person that denied Jesus three times his lion tongue, denied the Messiah,

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who the same person Jesus said upon this rock, I shall build my church.

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When he asked them, who do you say, Peter, that I am?

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And Peter family, boldly said, thou art the Christ, the son of the living God.

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And Jesus said flesh and blood did not tell you this or reveal this to you, but it was

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my father in heaven to do it.

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That same person was the one that was so powerful when he walked in the streets, the shadow

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of Peter when it laid upon the sick.

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The Bible said they were healed.

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And so God uses us in perfect people.

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Mark Burns liked what Paul said.

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Paul said, I am the chief amongst sinners.

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Who are we, Steve, to say, yes, we have a title.

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Yes, we have a following.

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Yes, we get to preach about Jesus.

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But what makes our sin that we do, whether it be a commission, an old mission, whether

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we know we're doing them or we don't know we're doing them, whether it's a thought,

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it's a verbal sin or just an actual physical sin, what makes our sin is that we do daily

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different from the sins that Donald Trump says, whether he's a tweet or not.

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What we should be celebrating is this.

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Number one, he's not the pastor of the United States of America.

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That is not his assignment.

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He has a different assignment.

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And there are certain rules and things that are designed for his assignment.

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And I'm happy, so you should be happy too, that he's not our pastor.

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But he's our president and he has an assignment.

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And yes, I can say this because I know him personally, intimately, personally, that most

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people when they talk to Donald or they see Donald Trump, it's usually through the lenses

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of a small snippet of him being attacked by somebody else.

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But if you know the man where there's no cameras, when you know him, when you see him

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interact with his children, when you see him interact with his family, the humility, the

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joy, the respect that they give him, not because he's so wealthy, because every one of his

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children were born rich, but they honor their daddy.

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Think about that.

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What kind of a man that loves his children, that hears from the voice of God and has raised

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their children to honor people and serve people, that's the true markmanship and the character

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of who he is.

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The Bible says that that that that God knew us before he formed us in the womb of the

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mother, but he the son set free is free indeed.

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And that's Donald Trump.

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So well said.

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And I agree with you and I wish we could take time.

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I would do want to encourage my viewers to share this podcast with others, maybe even

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people that have questions about the president.

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And I encourage you to go on Amazon and get the Trump card by Pastor Mark Burns.

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And I'll just call attention to my book.

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I actually wrote three books on Trump.

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You can get them on SteveStrangBooks.com as well as Amazon and other places.

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And if you read any of them, God and Donald Trump, which tells the story about how Christian

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prophets as far back as 2007 said that God was going to raise up Donald Trump to be president.

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And that's a subject for another time.

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But I thank Pastor Mark Burns for fitting in this podcast.

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I thank you for watching and tune in again every Tuesday and Thursday at 4 p.m. Eastern

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time for an edition of the Strang Report.

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God bless you.

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