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On August 11th of 2016, before he ran for president the first time, I had the privilege
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of interviewing Donald Trump.
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I negotiated a 10-minute face-to-face interview.
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It happened in, I'll say, the green room down at the convention center.
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I was ready with my questions.
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I got questions from people I respect, including Mike Huckabee.
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And Donald Trump was respectful.
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He gave me good answers.
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I've been able to get a lot of mileage out of it.
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And I ran it as a podcast, even though it was really for print in Charisma magazine.
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And then later I used it in some of my books.
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So I hope you enjoy my interview.
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A lot of the stuff he said in 2016 is just as valid today in 2024.
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So first question is, evangelicals and Catholics have been under attack from the Obama administration
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for their pro-life convictions and desire to be left alone from forced government acceptance
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of that which violates their biblical views on marriage.
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How can you reassure them that you will respect religious liberty for them?
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Well I think that, you know, I even mentioned in my speech, religious liberty is the foundation.
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Without the religious liberty, you don't have liberty.
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And I feel that so strongly.
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And so many other people do, except they don't express it.
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And plenty of politicians do, but they don't express it.
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So religious liberty is something that I find, that I cherish, and you will never be disappointed.
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When you met with evangelical leaders, of course I like this, for a church speech, you
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said that you would support repealing the Johnson Amendment so churches and ministries
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can maintain tax exemption without giving them free.
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How will you do it?
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Well I'll start it very early on.
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I'm not actually selling it if you order it on the truth.
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I started it already because I put it in the platform.
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You know, it's in the platform.
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A lot of people didn't even know where it was.
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And I put it in the platform.
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And now a lot of the pastors and ministers have seen it.
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And they can't even believe it.
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Because how this happened in the first place is shocking, how they were able to take it.
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So it's not something that was written from the beginning.
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This is something that was written by a very strong politician.
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That's all it is.
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But it silences great people.
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Silences people that we want to hear.
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Afraid to open things.
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They're afraid to talk about anybody.
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Because they can lose everything.
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You know, can lose everything with this.
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And we will, I will too, if I win, one of the first things I will do is lobby very strongly
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to have this terminated.
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And I will tell you something, it won't be hard.
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Because your lobby is so powerful.
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So even Democrats are outgrown.
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Because this is bigger than men, bigger than women in terms of numbers of people.
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So I'll be able to get it done.
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I have absolute confidence that I'll be able to get it done.
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Have you been lauded for the very strong bond of your adult children?
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Why does it stand the secret that you have such a close relationship with your children
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and their very obvious respect for you?
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Well I worked very hard when it came to my children.
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And one of the things that I would tell them all the time is no drugs are important.
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No cigarettes, I also tell them no cigarettes.
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But no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes.
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And I would say that to a point where they would go.
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Every time they'd go out or see them, saying no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes.
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And you know, I have friends who have very small children, but their children are hooked
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on drugs or they're hooked on alcohol.
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I had cigarettes because of the health thing because it's just easier if you're not
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smoking.
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I was lucky enough not to smoke.
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If I did smoke, I mean I have friends who can't get off and they're strong people.
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But if you've never started, it's not a problem.
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Same thing with drugs, same thing with alcohol.
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If you've never started, it's not a problem.
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And that's a big factor.
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And the fact that they're not hooked and you know, cults play a little bit.
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You never know what's the fragile world.
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So who knows what happens.
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But I would always talk about drugs, alcohol, and to a lesser extent, seen.
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As president, who will you reach out to for spiritual counsel and why do you feel that
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president need God's wisdom and guidance?
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Well I had many.
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I have so many friends, including Paula White was here.
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I have many friends within the community and some of the people who are here today.
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But one of them has been so incredible is Franklin Gray.
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Franklin Gray has been, I mean he's been amazing.
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He's been really direct.
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So we're close to Franklin.
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Pastor Jeffress has been direct.
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Paula White has been incredible.
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So many, so many.
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And I will, I really like to stay with people that have been so loyal because they were
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here at the beginning where this was a very, very little tiny flame.
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And they were here whenever we were saying, well you can't be actually 70 because actually
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the real level is 18.
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You're reaching off the record if you include Gilm Bar.
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But how do you beat 16 seasoned politicians?
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Because there were 17 total.
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But how do you beat 16 seasoned politicians?
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And in the case of Ben Carson, who's a terrific guy who endorsed us, but how do you beat these
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tremendously talented people?
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So they were there at the beginning.
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And that is something nice about people that were there at the beginning.
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You've already said that you support his will to claim to Jerusalem as capital.
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Many evangelical Christians are very strong supporters of Israel.
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How will your policies toward Israel differ from your opponent?
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Well for one thing, I support Israel.
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I don't think Obama supports Israel.
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I think he's the worst thing that's ever happened to Israel.
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The Iran deal is a disaster for Israel.
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And I'm very supportive of Israel.
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I have tremendous friendships in Israel.
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I have a son-in-law who's Jewish and married to my daughter.
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I have a daughter who's Jewish.
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So I will be very strongly in favor of Israel.
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In the book of Deuteronomy in the Old Testament, it says to be kind to the stranger of the
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land.
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How would that scripture guide your policy of immigration?
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Well I think that's good, but we have to be careful with the same.
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We're allowing people to come into the country.
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We don't know anything about them.
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There's no paperwork.
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There's no documentation.
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You see what's going on in Germany and France and many other places where they have an open
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door policy essentially.
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And it's going to go on here too.
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I mean we're going to allow thousands and thousands of people into our country.
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We have no idea who they are.
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At the same time, we want to build safe havens.
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We want to build safe havens.
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And we're going to get the Gulf states to fund that money because it's a tremendous
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amount of money and this country doesn't have it.
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So we want to take care of people, but we can't allow them in because we just don't
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know.
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You see what happened in St. Bernardino.
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You see what happened in Orlando right here.
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You see what happened with the World Trade Center.
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We can look at all over to look at what's going on in France, Nice, Germany.
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We just can't, we have enough problems.
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We can't do that.
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You know, you talked about the rough and tumble campaign, the 17 candidates and so forth.
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And you have won over the evangelical vote and you've changed a lot.
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How has this whole process affected you spiritually?
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Well, I can tell you I've always been spiritual, but I really appreciate evangelicals because
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they really support it.
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You know, when somebody supports you, you feel pretty good about it.
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And I'd go into a very evangelical state and people would say, oh, gee, I won't win that
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state and I ended up winning in a landslide because I had tremendous support.
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You see the polls when people are leaning, they support it over other people that in
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theory they could have supported very easily and they didn't.
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So I think the fact that I had that tremendous support from the evangelicals meant a lot
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to me and it will mean a lot to me in the future.
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Before you spoke, they had a speaker talking about Judeo-Christian values and the founding
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of the nation and so forth.
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In our secular society, a lot of people, you know, discount that.
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Do you believe that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles?
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Yeah, I think it was.
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I think to a large extent when I look at football coaches being fired because they held a prayer
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of the field like, yes, you, I think it's absolutely terrible.
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I think it's a terrible thing.
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You see so many things happening that are so different from what our country used to
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be.
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So, you know, religion is a very important part of me and it's also, I think it's a
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very important part of our country.
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Final question.
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What is the most important thing in your life?
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Well, you know, you always have to say family.
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It's family.
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It's a good thing from that standpoint.
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Religion is very important, but I assume you're not talking about religion or family, but
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you know, those two things are very important.
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Belief is very important.
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But you would always have to put family number one.
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And then give us some advice as we tell your story and persuade people like, you know,
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like you're encouraging that crowd, except instead of the church, you know, we'll be
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speaking to hundreds of thousands and several millions.
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Well, I'm going to get the job.
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I'm going to do a great job for religion and for the evangelicals.
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I'm going to do a great job.
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And that's why we got a standing ovation from pastors who don't get much of standing
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ovation, because they've heard a lot of people speak.
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So that was a great honor.
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But I will do a great job.
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I will get the job done.
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And I'll get it done properly.
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And that will be a great thing for the evangelicals.
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Well, thank you for your time.
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Thanks so much.
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Have a great day.
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Be blessed.
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God bless you.
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