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Today on The Strang Report, we're going to hear about what God is saying about Donald Trump in the
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election from a prophetic voice with a high degree of accuracy. I think it will make you think.
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Hello everyone, I'm Stephen Strang. I'm honored to welcome back to my podcast
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Troy Black, who's a popular YouTuber, author, filmmaker, and most importantly, a prophetic voice.
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He focuses on seeing the lost come to salvation in Jesus and Christians walking in the abundant
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life that Jesus promised through the New Covenant. He believes in stewarding the prophetic gift
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through promoting sound doctrine, purity, and accountability. So what has the Lord said to him
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about what's going in our nation, especially with the upcoming election? I think what he says to
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Christians, especially about Donald Trump, will surprise you. Stay tuned for my conversation
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with Troy Black. You don't want to miss this. Troy, thanks for taking time to be in my podcast. You
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have your own huge audience. And as I've watched it, you seem to very humbly share what you believe
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God is saying. So thanks for agreeing to share some of that with me and my audience. And I want
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to ask you about what's happening in the culture. And of course, everyone is focused on the election
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and Donald Trump. Some prophetic voices prophesied a decade ago that he would be president for two
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terms. And while he was elected in 2016, he wasn't reelected in 2020. So what specifically are you
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hearing about Donald Trump? Well, Steve, first off, I want to say thank you for having me. It's an
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honor just to be here. Second off, I do need to kind of share a simple disclaimer that I often
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share on my own channel. And it's that prophecy under the new covenant needs to be tested. It
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needs to be judged, needs to be weighed. And I get that from 1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Thessalonians
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chapter five. So those listening can go review those scriptures for themselves if they want to
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learn more about that. But I would encourage every person to take prophecy before the Lord in prayer
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and to examine it according to the scripture and compare the message that's being preached to
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what's preached in the word of God before you run with that specific prophecy, because that's just
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how it works under the new covenant. So I'm trying to say that everything I say today that's prophetic,
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I'm trying to say it from that perspective. But to answer your question, Steve, I've been hearing
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different prophecies about Donald Trump specifically and about the elections, about
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some different politicians over the last three or four years. And I've shared several words publicly.
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And one of the main things that I've heard about Donald Trump specifically is the Lord saying,
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I'm still using him. I'm still using Trump. So these are words that I've heard since 2020.
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I can't really speak into that at all prior to that, or sorry, since 2021 actually. But the Lord
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keeps saying, I'm using him. And that's a question that many Christians I know have asked, well, God,
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why would you use someone like Trump? Or many people would automatically respond and say,
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God couldn't use somebody like Trump. And over and over the Lord keeps pointing me to different
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people in scripture that he's used, like King Cyrus, even Balaam. I mean, Balaam, in my opinion,
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was a false prophet, essentially. He was using divination and stuff, and different people have
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different opinions on Balaam. But that's my perspective. And yet God used him to bless
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Israel instead of cursing Israel. And God even used a donkey that Balaam was riding on top of
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in order to speak to Balaam. So I believe that God is willing and able to use anyone and anything
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that he can. And I believe there's something very specific. There's a specific reason why God is
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using Donald Trump during this hour, during this time, and why he's not done with him. And I say
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that not out of a place of opinion, but I say that based on the words that I've been hearing
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from the Holy Spirit, God's still saying, I'm not done with him. I'm not done with him. And does that
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mean that he's going to win this year specifically? To be honest, I don't know. I'm praying that he
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does. As a conservative Christian, I'm praying that he gets reelected. Based on what I've heard
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from the Lord, I believe he's going to be. But the Lord hasn't clearly and specifically stated that
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he's going to be reelected. So that's as much as I can give from that perspective. I try to be very
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careful with connecting dots that the Lord has not connected for me. And I would warn every believer
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this year as well. There are going to be more and more prophecies about Donald Trump coming out this
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year, still to come, from many different voices across the spectrum. And my warning in love would
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be, be careful with connecting dots that the Lord is not connecting. Make sure that it's something
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the Holy Spirit's actually said. And then also, if it's coming from somebody that you don't know if
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you can trust or not, take it with a grain of salt and pray about it before you move forward with that.
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Well, first of all, I appreciate the disclaimer that you gave. I think that's very important,
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and I think that that adds to your credibility. I followed this thing with prophecies very,
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very closely because I've written several books on Donald Trump. The first one, God and Donald Trump,
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was actually... The thing that sparked it, at least, was the fact that there were some prophetic
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voices who had prophesied that Trump would be elected. And no one thought that would really
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happen, even up to election day. And it wasn't widely known, even though we had reported it
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on charismanews.com. We did a big story in Charisma Magazine. There were some other people that did it
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too, but I felt that it needed to be documented. And it was very, very carefully documented. And
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there are a lot of people that hate the whole idea of prophecy. I'm talking about Christians. We call
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them cessationists, and that's a discussion for another day. But interestingly, they didn't really
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attack me or the book because it was very carefully documented. We had videos of Kim Clement saying
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this and Chuck Pierce and some of the others. They did seem to say that Trump would be elected for
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two terms, and when that did not happen. And by this time, there were a lot of other people,
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I say kind of jumping on the bandwagon, the Trump would win. And when it didn't happen,
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there was great deal of criticism. So when it comes down to an election between two people,
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whether this election or any election, a lot of times is picking the lesser of two evils. We know
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that, but we're wanting to go beyond the politics to what the Lord is saying. And I believe personally,
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and as I put it in my books and people can read my books if they want to hear my opinion on this,
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is that whatever weaknesses Donald Trump has, that his strengths far outweigh them and that he is a
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great leader. And I've even said in different settings that it is almost like he's a hero
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for those of us who believe in religious freedom, who believe in the sanctity of life,
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and I could just go down the concerns we have. However, do we really need a hero? And also,
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isn't it true? I've seen this, I hate to say this, and that some people, some really,
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really strong MAGA people put him on a pedestal, almost make an idol out of him.
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What do you think about that? Well, I know you're alluding to the word that I heard from the Lord
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this week. As soon as you texted me a couple of days ago and said, hey, I want to have you on my
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podcast, or I guess you texted me a few weeks ago or something like that. But when you texted me this
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week and you were specifically saying you wanted me to share what the Lord is saying, I think that
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there's something when it comes to the prophetic where as soon as the Holy Spirit has permission,
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He's willing to go above and beyond. And as soon as I texted you back, I remember driving to the bank
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to drop off some checks, and then I was going to go to work out. And as I was driving, the Holy Spirit
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began to speak to me. One of the things that happened was I looked at the back of this truck
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and where you normally see a bumper sticker on the truck or on a car, a vehicle, I saw the word
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hero. Like I had a vision from the Lord and I saw the word hero written there, and it was there,
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and then it wasn't there. And I was like, Lord, what was that? It was kind of crazy.
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But the Lord began to talk to me about Trump from the perspective of Him essentially being a hero
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for this nation right now. Now I want to clarify that, and the Lord actually clarified it himself.
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So I want to read a little bit of this word if that's okay. But this is what I heard the Lord say.
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He said, my people are looking for a hero, but the hero is Christ. And then He said, and until you
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settle into that answer, nothing else is ever going to fully fall into place. So there is a
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temptation right now, and there was in 2020, I believe there was in 2016, it's always there.
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But specifically, there's a temptation right now that the Lord is wanting to warn us as believers
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against. And I'm not just saying this prophetically, but I believe many Christians are
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already sensing it in their own hearts, because this is something the Lord is having to deal with
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in many people's hearts. And the temptation is to exalt somebody like Donald Trump to a place that
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they were never meant to be. And this is what I believe is actually what happened in 2020.
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So I recently released a prophecy on my channel, and it was titled something like,
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Why did God allow 2020 to occur? And the Lord gave me a word about 2020. And one of the reasons,
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and I don't think it's the only reason, but one of the reasons why things went down a certain way in
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2020 was that there was idolatry happening in the church, and God was wanting essentially to
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shake us up or wake us up to that. And I believe that that has happened. And I believe there's many
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people listening who view Donald Trump and view politics from the correct perspective. So to those
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listening, please don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not trying to bring a condemnation, you know,
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or I'm not trying to say this in a judgmental way, but there is a temptation there and we need to be
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aware of it. We need to be aware of the schemes of the devil. But here's what the Lord's been
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speaking to me this week, Steve, that has kind of shocked me a little bit. So many people remember
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the Batman series with Christian Bale that came out several, you know, maybe a decade or two ago.
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And this is kind of funny. It's kind of weird. You know, God speaks to me in ways that I can
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understand, and I believe He speaks to people in ways that we can understand. And so He used this
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illustration. And I, to be honest, I did not write down what I was hearing at first, because it was
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a little strange, but the Lord kept saying it over the last couple of days. So I finally wrote it
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down. And what I heard the Lord say was, I saw the scene playing in my mind from the second Batman
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film where Commissioner Gordon says about Batman, he says, this is the line, he says, he's the hero
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Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. And what he's referring to in that moment is,
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there's an evil person laying on the ground dead who's two-faced. So, you know, this picture of
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showing one side to the public and being a different way behind the scenes, who had committed a crime,
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and they wanted to keep that person looking good to the people so that they wouldn't lose heart,
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and that it wouldn't, you know, go into more chaos, the city wouldn't fall into more chaos.
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And so this character, Batman, and I'm not recommending that movie to everyone, you know,
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it's a pretty violent movie. I'm not recommending it to everyone, but the Lord's using it as an
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illustration. This character, Batman, says, I did it. He says, I'll take the rap, I'll take the fall,
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I can look like the villain, I can look like the criminal in this case, so that the city is
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protected, right? And this is what the Lord said to me. He said about Donald Trump this week,
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and I didn't write it down at first, but I finally did. He said, he's the hero the nation needs,
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he's the hero the nation needs, just not the one it wants. And so I believe based on this,
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and I did not connect this to the criminal trial and all of that and the conviction until just
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yesterday when suddenly it hit me, the Lord's talking about this, you know, this conviction,
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and him essentially taking the rap for something and it all being in line with, this has to happen
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in order for God's will to be done. And, you know, some people may think I'm crazy for just
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saying that, but the picture that God is painting is that he's still working. And I just sense this
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from the Holy Spirit right now, Steve, that the picture he's painting, he's still working,
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he's still in control, and he's still got an ace up his sleeve that none of us know about right now.
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And the Lord's not talking about everything going our way. He's not talking about, you know,
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us getting everything we want necessarily. But what he's talking about is God is using Donald
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Trump to defend something that's under attack in this nation, that's been under attack for a long
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time, that matters. And it has to do with the way that the country was founded. It has to do with
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the founding fathers. It has to do with the Constitution, but it also has to do with the
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biblical values behind not everything, but some of the foundations of this nation that are under
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attack. And God is saying, hey, even if I have to use a criminal, I'm going to use a criminal
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in order to get this done, in order to get something done, in order to make this change.
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And another thing I heard this week, I heard the Lord say, he said, I'm coming with restitution
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and fire to burn up that which sat in my way, unknowingly opposing the very precepts I laid down.
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And the precepts he's talking about are the biblical values that in some cases this nation
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was built and founded upon, that are, they're not just crumbling, they're not just under attack.
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They're lying in a pile of rubble right now for many different reasons, but specifically because
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the leaders in place have not upheld those values. And even in the cases of the people wanting those
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values to stay in place, the leaders have not represented the people accurately in protecting
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those values and protecting the rights and protecting the freedom. So that's what I've
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been hearing this week, Steve. That's what I believe the Lord is saying. I'm submitting this
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as a prophetic word, the parts that were from the Lord, and I'm saying, hey, everyone listening,
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take this to the Lord in prayer and pray about it. If the Holy Spirit tells you differently,
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go with what the Lord's saying. If the word of God says something else, go with what the word of God
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is saying. But I'm submitting this as a prophetic word and asking everyone listening to pray about
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it. Well, let's talk about the 2020 election. It was very close and there's been a lot of discussion.
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Was it stolen? Was it not stolen? Right. And there were prophetic voices, some of them pretty shrill.
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There were people that I personally kind of tried to keep my distance from because I didn't agree with
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the attack they were taking. But why do you think the election went the way it did? Because we had
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a lot of problems in 2020. It seems in some ways that they've even been worse with Joe Biden in the
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White House. You know, we don't have time to go into all that. But why do you think it happened the
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way it did, kind of in light of what you've been talking about? Well, I think one of the reasons,
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like I said, could potentially be idolatry. And I believe that's what the Lord has shown me through
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that other prophetic word that I shared. You know, that there's a opportunity for us as Christians
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to represent Jesus Christ to the world. And as soon as we put our hope and our trust and the
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future, not just of our lives, but of this nation, into the hands of a politician, Trump, Biden,
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whoever it is, or a party, or something happening in the White House, you know, like somebody getting
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elected, as soon as we put our hope into that, what's going to happen is every opportunity that
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we have to share Jesus with the world is going to be tainted by where our hope is actually lying.
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Because we're going to get into conversations with people this year who are unsaved or who are on the
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fence about God and about Jesus. And as the church, what did Jesus say? He said, hey, this is the great
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commission. Go into all the world and preach the good news to all nations. And we're going to be,
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if our hope is in something else other than the good news of Jesus Christ, what's going to happen
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is we're going to be teeter tottering and we're going to end up preaching a good news that Jesus
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didn't tell us to preach. And we're going to say, well, here's the good news is that Trump is coming
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back. And it's like, wait a minute, that is some good news, but it's not the good news. And it's
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secondary to the actual gospel message itself. And I would say not just secondary, it's way below
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par, right? It's way down here with all these other things. There's one message that stands
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above everything else and anything, any thread of idolatry in our hearts is going to make it
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more difficult. Now it's not impossible. God can still use us even when we've got issues to work
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on. I believe that a hundred percent because of the grace of God, because of his compassion,
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his mercy, but it makes it so much more difficult to take those opportunities when we have them and
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to lay down maybe some pride, maybe some, you know, some of the things we're putting our hope in and
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to say, Hey, I know we have some political disagreements right now, or maybe we're on the
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same side. It doesn't matter, but whatever it is, politics aside, where are you with the Lord
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right now? You know, have you met Jesus for yourself? Can I please share with you what Jesus
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has done for me and what he's meant for me in my life and the things that he saved me from and
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pulled me out of, you know, and the change that he made in my life. You know, there is this verse
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in first Corinthians that talks about God using the foolish things of the world to confound the
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wise. And yes, we could apply that to someone like Trump. We could apply that to God, you know,
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using some things that the world would, you know, a lot of the media in the world is calling foolish
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and stuff. You know, God can still work through those areas, but more specifically what he's
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talking about there is he's talking about the gospel message, the message of the cross itself
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that the God of the universe, who could do anything, who's all powerful, the creator,
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decided, hey, I am going to come down and I'm going to allow my son, myself to be crucified
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on a cross when I didn't have to. And that's the message that the world needs to hear. And it sounds
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like foolishness to some people. And here's the temptation as well, Steve, is to us in the church
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preaching that message when we could be trying to convert someone to conservativism or, you know,
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to our political sway. That can seem like foolish sometimes, but the Holy Spirit's going to come in
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in that moment. He's going to say, hey, I know you want to say this over here, but let's shelve that
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for now, because this person needs the love of Christ right now. They need to hear about what
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God has done for them. And yes, God can use the political platform. He can use all of that as an
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opportunity, a witnessing tool. And I believe he's doing that. And specifically, I'd like to share it
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one way that he is in a minute, but more importantly, are we listening in the moment to what the
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Holy Spirit is leading us to do and say? And I believe, Steve, more than anything else, if
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somebody gets radically saved and they get filled with the Spirit, if there's something wrong with
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the issues they're supporting and the politicians that they want to see in office, the Holy Spirit's
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going to begin to work on that in ways that we honestly never could. And he's going to make more
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of a change in their heart than we ever could. So my encouragement to every person listening would be,
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let the Holy Spirit examine your heart this year and say, Holy Spirit, am I sharing the good news
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or am I just sharing some good news? Which one is the priority? And that's not to say that we can't
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stand up for freedom. That's not to say we can't stand up for biblical values in the government.
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I absolutely believe that we should be doing that, but we should be doing that within the context of
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my first and highest priority is to share Jesus with people who need him.
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Well, I agree with you 100%. And I think what you're saying is so important that I wanted to use my
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platform to give you an opportunity to say it. And you also told me before we started that God told
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you he's still working and he has an assignment for us as we fight for biblical values in this nation.
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And I'd like to ask you if you would elaborate on that.
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Well, that assignment looks different for every single Christian, you know, but the first thing we
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need to do when it comes to the election, it comes to the biblical values and everything, we need to
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pray and say, Holy Spirit, who do you want me to vote for? Number one, Holy Spirit, what other
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practical steps do you want me to take? You know, I had to do that in 2016, Steve. And to be honest,
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I've shared this on my platform recently. I wasn't going to vote for Donald Trump if I was just
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thinking from my natural perspective, because I had all these questions in mind. And I obviously
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wasn't going to vote for Hillary either, but my thought was, do I not vote or do I vote for a
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third party? Like who do, what do I do here? And I prayed and the Holy Spirit said, I want you to
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vote for Donald Trump. And I said, okay, all my questions will be answered later. I just have to
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be obedient. So as Christians, we need to be obedient to what the Holy Spirit is asking us
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to do. And the only way to do that is to actually go into our prayer closet or the car or wherever
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we meet with the Lord, you know, on our way to work, turn the worship music on and just, or
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whatever, you know, whatever works for you, but just say, Holy Spirit, what are you saying to me
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for this season? Do you have a practical step? And if He doesn't give you something specifically
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practical, we've already got steps to take in the word and we need to make sure we're at first off,
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we're handling that, right? And the good news is God's grace is available. If we're missing
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something, you know, or we're off or the Holy Spirit has to correct something, His grace is
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available and we don't have to be condemned by that. We don't have to be ashamed of that,
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but instead we can make that correction under the leading of the Holy Spirit and through the love
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of Christ. You know, there's a lot of things in the news about how people who hold to conservative
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values and certainly biblical values are actually persecuted. Now they lose their jobs. I mean,
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there's a movie coming out called Average Joe in which a coach was actually fired because he knelt
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in prayer. Yet other football players were taking a knee to show disrespect to the national anthem.
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And there's many, many examples, you know, this is pride month and there was a man who was going to
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be fired because he wouldn't raise the pride flag. Do you think that more, do you think we can expect
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more of this in the future? What is the Lord saying about that?
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Yes, Steve. So I don't have time to read the word right now that I heard, but I did recently hear
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a word about persecution coming to Christians specifically in this nation, especially during
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ramping up in the fall of this year. So I will be sharing that word at a later date, obviously not
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right now, but that's not something we need to be afraid of. I mean, Jesus says, hey, you're blessed
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when you're persecuted, but it is something we need to be aware of. And when the persecution comes,
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number one, God can work all things for good to those who love Him or called according to His
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purposes. So if I have to lose my job for saying yes to the Lord, yes to biblical values, I'm
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standing up for what's right, then God's going to bring something better along at the right time.
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Right. Or if I have to make a decision that makes me look like an idiot to the culture, I can do
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that. And I can do that with a smile on my face, knowing that God's still in control and that I'm
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technically blessed according to what Jesus said. So there is a level of sacrifice that it takes to
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stand up for truth, to stand up for what's right, to stand up for the word of God in the
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society and the culture we live in. But I'm here to tell you, no matter who you are, it's worth it.
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That sacrifice is worth it because you're not making it alone. Jesus Christ is standing there
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with you through the power of the Holy Spirit, just like the three men in the fiery furnace.
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What do we see happen? They stand up for what's right. And they said, God is going to deliver us.
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And even if He doesn't, we're still not going to bow. So they were not willing to compromise.
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But what do we see happen right after that? There's a fourth man in the fire and Jesus,
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His presence is with them like a fire. And Jesus is with them like a fire. And Jesus is
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with them like never before. And that's what I believe we're going to see as a nation and
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as Christians who live in this nation. We're going to see an outpouring of the glory of God.
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And I mean that in a very practical way. I'm not talking about some a theoretical thing out there,
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or some like, well, revival's coming sometime. No, I'm talking about in our personal lives,
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we're going to see, we're going to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit. We're going to sense the
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nearness of the Holy Spirit. And we're going to be able to say, no, I have the peace of God about
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this. And I don't have to be afraid of what the culture says. Even if I lose something in order
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to be obedient, I would rather walk in the peace and the joy and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.
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Well, as we wrap up this short podcast, I want you to give the last word, but I also want you to
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tell my audience how they can connect with you, how they can subscribe to your podcast. And if
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they want to reach you, how do they do that? Yeah. So you can just search for Troy Black on
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YouTube. I'm also on Facebook, Instagram, and I'm on Rumble now as well. But then on top of that,
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you can go to TroyBlackVideos.com where you can actually find my prophecy archive.
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So we've put up a list of predictive prophetic words I've shared over the last three or four
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years. And we're showing the results. We're showing, hey, here's what I said. Here's what
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happened. Here's the timeline I said was going to happen. And here's what happened within that
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timeline so that people can go and they can read the words for themselves. They can examine it.
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They can pray about it. They can make a judgment call themselves. So they don't just have to take
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my word for it that I'm hearing from God, but they can look at it. And I believe when people
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go look at that archive, they're going to see consistency and they're going to see accuracy as
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well. But then on top of that, I'm also creating a film this year called The Outlier. And it's a
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documentary film about Donald Trump's 2016 campaign. We're also going to be talking about
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some of the things that happened after that. And so if you all want to watch the very short
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teaser trailer on YouTube, just search for The Outlier teaser trailer and you should be able to
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find that. Now, please note it is a teaser, so there's not a lot of content to it there yet.
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We're going to be launching an official trailer at a later date, but that film is coming out this
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year. And so if you want to follow that, go check out the teaser trailer on YouTube.
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I hope you enjoyed my interview with Troy Black. I believe what he has to say is very important.
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in the book that I mentioned, God and Donald Trump, it was the first of several. Each of them is very
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important in its own way. You can find out more on my website, stevestrangbooks.com, and you can
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and if you're interested, you can get them in a bundle if you want to learn more about Donald
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to The Strang Report. Until next time, God bless you.