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Hello everyone and welcome to The Strang Report. I'm Stephen Strang and today I am excited
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to interview Todd Coconado who is both a friend and also a new author. He's written a book
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that I have the privilege of publishing. It's called Come Out From Among Them. And I'm not
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exactly objective about this book because I helped to recruit Todd as an author and
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felt that he has something very important to say and I'm glad to share that on my podcast
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today and to learn more about why he wrote this book and why you want to read it. I mean,
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isn't that why we write books? In fact, you can learn from people that you never know,
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even people that have gone on to heaven, by reading their books. And I personally read
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a book a week on average. I'm in the process of reading this book now because I think it's
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so important. But I wanted to just share some insights with him. So first of all, let me
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welcome Todd. I wish I had a teleprompter with all of your accolades. You have an organization
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called Remnant. You have a podcast called The Todd Coconado Show. In fact, I first met
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you when I did a podcast with you at National Religious Broadcasters a number of years ago.
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And then over the years we've become friends. You moved to Nashville, started at church.
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I've heard really good things about the church, even though I haven't had a chance to attend.
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Someday when you least suspect it, you'll see me on the back row. We definitely want
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you to come. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you. And thank you for fitting this podcast on fairly
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short notice. So the subtitle says, Why you were made for such a time as this? Why did
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you write the book? And then I want to ask you about the angelic visitation that you
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had that was a part of your writing the book. Thank you, Steve. Well, first of all, it's
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great to be here. And I just appreciate you having me on today and talking about this.
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It's an honor to be part of the Charisma family writing this book. And I'll tell you, this
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book is a supplement. I really am very strong on Christians reading the word of God. The
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Bible says faith comes from hearing the word of God. In this insane time that we're in
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with so many different things going on in the world, we've got to be rooted. We can't
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be illiterate biblically. And so this book is a supplement to that. And I believe God's
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given me a strategy for this hour where we can not only survive, but we can thrive. But
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it takes us coming out of this Babylon system. That's what I call it. It's the system of
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the world. The Bible says to be in it, but not of it. And we are citizens of heaven.
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And so a big portion of how the enemy gets us in discouragement, worry, anxiety, fear,
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doubt, all those things is because we as believers don't know our identity in Christ, who we
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are, what we're able to accomplish that, you know, many times in the scripture there were
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powerful men of God. Think of Daniel and so many other examples where people were in a
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land where it was foreign or they were taken captive or things were happening, but yet
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they were still thriving and about the business of God. And so I believe that God is raising
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up a generation of believers right now. I call them Davids and Esthers, but people that
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were made for this time. And it's a warrior class. It's lions and generals. It's people
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that are bold, that have a purpose and that are meant to really push back against this
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demonic agenda that we see from the World Economic Forum, the globalists, the elites,
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many of the things that we've discussed in the past. And so it's a great time to be alive.
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It's literally the church's greatest hour. I believe we're on the cusp of the greatest
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awakening, greatest move of God in our history before the Lord returns. But there's many
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challenges and so this book kind of helps show the strategy on how to be effective in
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this time.
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Well, that's exciting and it's very needed. And when we became aware that that was sort
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of the thrust of your ministry, we said that is a message that needs to be articulated
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in a book. And so I need the viewers to go on Amazon or to go to your Christian bookstore
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or wherever books are sold and get a copy and share it with others because we need to
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get this message out. So let's start about this angelic visitation. Not very many people
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have angelic visitation. So tell me about yours and what happened.
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Well, and I'll just start by saying this. In almost every case in the scripture, when
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there was somebody that was visited by an angelic visitation, the first thing that they
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did was they were fearful. And that's actually what happened to me is I was very fearful.
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I was in bed at the time. My daughter was really little. Now she sleeps in her own bed.
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But at the time she was in our bed. And so I'm a wife, my daughter, it's the middle of
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the night, something about three AM. I don't know what it is, but it was around that time.
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And all of a sudden I look and at the edge of my bed, there's this massive angelic being.
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And so I was paralyzed with fear. I was afraid of what is this? And then I realized there
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was a piece that came on me. I believe it was the Holy Spirit. And just let me know,
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this is of me. This is not a demon. It's not something evil. This is of the Lord. So I
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still can't make whether I was awake or asleep. If it was asleep, it was the realest dream
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I've ever had. I do believe I was awake, but it was literally in the middle of sleeping
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and it just shook me. And so, and it was in my room, there's at my bed. Somebody asked
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me how tall do I think the angel was? I don't know, maybe 10 feet tall or so. But really
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what you're focused on at that very moment is just what is happening, what's going on.
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That's all you could really think about. And so the angel, the angelic being said two things
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to me. I said, come out from among them and said, be consecrated, come out from among
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them and be consecrated as, as fast as this happened, he was gone. That was it. And then,
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and so that's where I was like, okay, did this just happen? Was I sleeping? Was I dreaming?
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What just happened? You know, but I knew it was of the Lord because it wasn't, even if
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it was a dream, it wasn't like a normal dream. I mean, this was something that was completely
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awe inspiring. You know, I knew that God had met me at that very moment and I knew that
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that message was of the Lord. And so I got out of my bed. I walked into the room where
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I pray. I called my upper room, went over there and I was pacing Steve just for several
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hours and praying and speaking at times, just asking the Lord what just happened. And so
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I didn't go back to sleep that night. And I pondered on this visitation for literally
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months and here's the thing. I'm a pastor. I've been in the Lord for a long time. If
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you think about what the angelic being said, said, come out from among them, be consecrated.
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Well, my first thought is, am I not consecrated? What am I doing? That's wrong. You know, so
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I started analyzing my life. I started asking the Lord, inquiring of the Holy Spirit. And
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as I did this, God just began to peel away layers that I didn't even know were there.
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Well, give us some examples and also explain exactly what these two phrases meant to you
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at that time and what they mean in the book. Sure. So at that time, I think I was in a
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period of trying to figure it out, but I think over the course of the last two years, the
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Lord has really defined exactly what he was saying to me and why that was so important.
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So come out from among them. Of course, we know the scripture that says that and the
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whole book is basically based on that. But what it is, is it's separating ourselves.
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It's consecrating ourselves, being set apart, walking in holiness. You know, holiness used
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to be a big deal, especially in the charismatic church. You don't hear about holiness as much
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anymore. You don't hear about purity. Let's go back even farther than that. In the late
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1800s, there was a movement called the holiness movement. That's right. There are a few churches
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that still use that terminology. Pentecostal holiness is the name of a Pentecostal denomination.
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And there are a few other examples. And the Pentecostal movement at Azusa Street really
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kind of grew out of that. So historically, you know, there's been an emphasis on holiness.
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We could go back through history, you know, all the way back to the early church, of course.
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But you're right. In more modern times, we don't hear the term. It's considered old fashioned.
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Some people may attach legalism to it because often the holiness people, in an attempt to
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do what was right, at least in their own eyes, would attach a lot of rules that they defined
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as holiness. And often it had to do with clothing or sometimes behaviors like, you know, smoking
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or drinking, not smoking or drinking, those kinds of things. But anyway, get back to what
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you're saying. I just wanted to clarify that holiness is something that needs, in my opinion,
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to be emphasized again.
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Yes. And I agree. And thank you for sharing that history because I think that's really
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important that everybody listening understands. And so there's times like in the shepherding
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movement and different movements that have happened over the course of church history
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where things have been over-enunciated. That's not what we're talking about in this case.
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We're talking about actual holiness in accordance to the scripture. You think about the scriptures,
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be holy for I am holy. You know, like I said, being set apart, consecrated, being a Nazarite.
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But what this means to me is, and let me just go through the first layer because this is
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something that God really started showing me, was alignments. You know, who was I yoking
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with and were there areas of leaven in my life? In other words, a little leaven, leaven's
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the whole lump. Are there areas, are there things that I was participating in that I
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was exposing my members to that I was involved in that were fleshly and that were hindering
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the move of God in my life, the anointing and just really opening doors. And so the
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Lord started peeling away these layers and I started realizing there was things that
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I didn't even realize. And I think that God is willing at any moment in the believer's
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life if we inquire of the Holy Spirit and we ask these types of questions, we say, Lord,
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you know, cause we're, we're in today's culture, Steve, I know you see this, everybody's point
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with what everybody else is doing. You know, everybody's, you know, there's a lot of heresy
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hunters out there. There's a lot of people, they'll probably make a video about this broadcast.
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They do this all the time and they take sound bites and different things. So a lot of people
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are looking at the, you know, the plank or the speck in somebody else's eye and they're
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not really looking at the plank in their own. And so this is what I think the Lord is wanting
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us to do is revival starts in our heart. And we know, look, I'm a supporter of Donald Trump.
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I got active in politics as many other leaders in my circle did, but ultimately we know that
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this country needs a great awakening. We need a move of God. That is the only answer. It's
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not just this country, it's our world. And so as we see things escalating, as we see
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the birth pains increasing, and I believe that's the period of time we're in and, and
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things are, I mean, you look at the wars and rumors of wars and what's happening in the
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middle East, what's happened Eastern Europe, you know, all over the world, destabilization.
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There's a whole bunch of violence and protests and just all that cycle is happening right
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now. So as this happened, how does the Christian, how do we not only survive, but how do we
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do what we're meant to do in the scripture? And this is where we can have these open doors
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in our life. And so to your point, the church in the Western culture and in America has
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had such a seeker friendly model, you're barely, barely even talking about sin, uh, barely
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addressing sin. In fact, I know a lot of folks that are many churches that if their pastor
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literally went to them and started addressing areas of sin, a lot of them would probably
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leave an offense cause they're not used to it. And so this is unfortunately the culture
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that's been developed. I believe God is restoring the foundations. He wants us to return our
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first love and to get back to the word of God because the word of God is everything.
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I mean, it's a lamp unto our feet. It's, it's, it's how we have faith. Faith comes from
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hearing the word of God. So this is, this is this, this path that the Lord started taking
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me on alignments, uh, you know, looking into what holiness actually means, consecrating
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myself, my family, our church, uh, just getting rid of things that we shouldn't have been
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involved in.
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I do believe that God is shaking up the church and, um, if so, uh, how is that happening?
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And do you think that that'll really bring people back to him?
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I think it's happening and I think we haven't seen nothing yet. I hate to say it, but we
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know the judgment comes first to the house of the Lord. And so we talk about revival.
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We talk about a great move of God, but in order for these things to happen, there has
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to be a right set of what's been off and what's been wrong. And so there's been many people
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that are, uh, their motives are not pure. Let's just say that, or, you know, it's become
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a business or it's become, you know, and I believe some of these people started off
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in the right place and, you know, we all have to die to our flesh daily and have mentors
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and accountability and people in our lives that keep us on track. And I, you know, you're,
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you're very strong in saying those things and I appreciate that. And, you know, we're
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friends as well. And so, but the thing is, is that, uh, this is very important. I believe
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that we've gotten off course in all these areas, you know, what's the great commission
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thing, go and make disciples, be a soul winner. Yet that's the one area we probably haven't
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done that good in, in America. If you think about, I'm here in Nashville, it's in the
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South and there's, there's like a church on every corner. It's like a Starbucks. I mean,
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it's like a coffee shop. There's literally a church in every corner. But yeah, with all
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the churches, you would think we'd be impacting the community. You think that we'd be, you
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know, we would think that we'd be making a major change. And there are some great churches.
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I'm not bashing all the churches. I'm part of the body. But what I'm saying is if that
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were the case, if we were effective in soul winning and what we were doing, uh, Broadway
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downtown wouldn't be packed with people getting drunk every night. There wouldn't be people
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in despair all over the city. There wouldn't be, uh, continued poverty and all the different
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things that we're seeing that are happening in our big cities. And so something's been
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wrong, Steve. And I think that's why God is calling his church, his Ecclesia in this hour,
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those with the ears to hear to understand, we've got to know what the scripture says
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because the Lord says, if you love me, you'll obey my commands. Right? So that's what he
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wants us to do.
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Well, you referred to standing up to the culture and you know, the different things you've
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been talking about. How do you think that can happen? What are some steps that people
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can take that you go into in the book to show the reader what to do?
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Yeah, there's a, there's a shaking that's happening with the awakening. And one of the
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things that we have to do, I really believe a good portion of this starts in the pulpits
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in America. We've got to preach the entirety of the word of God. You know, we've seen whole
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denominations, very unfortunate embracing some of the LGBTQ agenda, some of the woke
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agenda. That is demonic and we have to call a spade a spade. And I think a lot of people
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have been fearful that people are going to leave or maybe the tides are going to go down.
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I mean, I'm just speaking bluntly as a pastor, but I really believe that what we have to
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remember is we're going to be standing before the Lord one day and that's the most important
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thing. And so we have to please the Lord. We have to speak to that audience of one and
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we have to call out sin and many, many pulpits are not calling out these major things that
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are happening. Look at the gender situation with the young people in the curriculums.
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And I mean, how, how evil does it have to get for us to speak out? How evil does it
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have to get for the church to get angry, to get involved in a righteous manner? And so
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I just really, sometimes I ask myself, I know you do as well. Many of your listeners do,
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and so I believe one of the main things is we've got to preach and teach the full Bible.
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We got to call out sin. Why not have altar calls again? Why not, why not open our churches
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and have solemn assemblies and prayer gatherings and fast, you know, call a fast for our nation.
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Repentance is another major word and action that we're not really talking about. And yet
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it's so important to the Lord. And so I believe we got to, we got to preach and teach repentance
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and, and have a heart for holiness, you know? And so this is all what we're talking about
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in this book and it lays out a different strategy. I'll just give you some examples. Chapter
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two is separating from the Babylon system. Chapter three, I go through the plan of the
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elites and there is a plan of the elites. I mean, we're moving right now towards a one
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world global government structure. They have a plan to initiate a digital currency. That's
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a real, that's not conspiracy. That's actually happening. You know, there's all different
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types of things that are in motion. And if you look at them individually, it might not
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be so scary, but if you look at it from a collective standpoint and all the different
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data points, we are moving towards the beast system very fast. We're, we're seeing things
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happening in biblical prophecy right before our eyes. And so I just think, uh, this isn't
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a time to be messing around. Uh, it's certainly not a time for business as usual, but here's
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the good news is we have the authority in Jesus Christ to pull down the strongholds.
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We have all the tools that we need to effectively push back and win. We're on the winning team.
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And I will just say this, there's a lot of Christians that are walking around right now,
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tired, beat down, depressed, anxiety. I hear it every day, Steve, everywhere we go and
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speak, uh, this is a common theme. And I really believe the Lord wants to teach us to renew
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our strength, to encourage ourselves in Christ and to know what we actually can do. And that's
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what's laid out in this book.
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What do you think is the most important takeaway that a reader would get? Because a lot of
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people would resonate with what they're hearing you say. They probably wouldn't be watching
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right now if they didn't agree to some extent. A lot of people kind of think that it's a,
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you know, the cliche is it's above my pay grade or it applies to someone else. Or I've
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sort of been there, done that in terms of knowing that this is a problem. I mean, people
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were concerned in the eighties and nineties and two thousands about the march toward a
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one world government and, and with all the different manipulations of the currencies
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and the stock markets and everything else. So what makes your book different that will
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help people do something significant and, and move the needle in their own lives and
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in the world and in the world that they live in?
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Such a great question. Uh, let me, let me answer it this way. What, what the book will
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do is not focus on the negative, but allow us to understand how we can be achieving what
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we're called to do, our purpose and the authority that we have to do that. And the anointing
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of the Holy spirit that's upon us when we're walking in consecration, purity, holiness,
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when we have the heart for the Lord. And so this is the problem is that for many years,
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the church was asleep. I think we all can kind of agree on that. And then what happened
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is when the awakening started, a lot of people started listening to a lot of these videos
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and alternative media, some voices, very solid other voices that rose themselves up. I don't
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think they were, uh, you know, raised up by God. And so the problem is you have to have
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discernment to differentiate that you have to know the scripture. Otherwise you can be
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deceived. And so a lot of folks are deceived. A lot of people are caught up in what I call
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the doom and gloom train. And here's the problem with that. If you're on the doom and gloom
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train and all you think, you know, we're going to get rapture out here any minute, there's
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nothing I can do. That's exactly what the enemy wants us to think. That's his goal is
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to, is to make the church feel like we can't do anything. We're defeated. We're done. That
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is total life from the pit of hell. God says occupy until he comes. He says he's with us
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until the end of the age. He'll never leave us. He'll never forsake us. And so we, we
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can be taking territory right now. There are so many hungry people out there. I can tell
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you this beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last three years that we've been going around the
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country, I've never seen lines so long of hungry people. There is a massive harvest
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in every city right now of people that are looking for answers. We can go out to the
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supermarket, the coffee shop, wherever you go in your daily activities. And there will
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be somebody that wants to hear the message of the gospel. And so it is not a time to
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bury our heads. It's not a time to retract or to build a bunker somewhere. It's a time
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to get out there and you know, the Greek word at Bala, which is go, go out, cast out and
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drive out. That's what we need to be doing effectively right now is being the church,
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the body of Christ is meant to go out, to cast out and to drive out the forces of darkness.
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And that's why it's not a political solution. It is a spiritual matter. It's a spiritual
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war. And so I believe in this book. I mean, we talk about chapter eight, our identity
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in Jesus Christ. Very important. We get into that in depth. Chapter nine is about the anointing,
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the anointing of the Holy Spirit. You know, it's the anointing that destroys the yoke
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of bondage. What are we dealing with? Bondage. Everybody's in bondage. Not everybody, but
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a good portion of our country is in bondage. And so we have the authority in Jesus' name
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and by the power of the Holy Spirit to show people how to break those chains and have
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deliverance and healing and all the things that a lot of people have been afraid to talk
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about, Steve.
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Let's do a deep dive on anointing. You know, there's it's a word that's in the Bible.
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We think of it as Old Testament, you know, where they would pour oil and it would drip
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down Aaron's beard. Remember that? So tell someone who maybe didn't grow up in the church
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or isn't used to all these words that we use in Christian circles. What is the anointing
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and how does that break the yoke?
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Yes. Very, very important, especially if you're a new believer, because I remember I had the
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same question and basically let me just break it down the simplest of terms. When you're
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walking with God and you invite his presence in his Holy Spirit, you accept Jesus as your
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Lord and Savior, his Holy Spirit comes and lives in your heart. And so literally we have
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the Holy Spirit living in our heart. The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. That's our
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body. We are the body of Christ. And so when someone lives in a way that pleases the Lord,
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we actually, we're not just hearers of the word, we're doers. So we're people of action.
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We're literally doing what the Bible tells us to do. When you do this, what happens is
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there's an anointing of the Holy Spirit that God puts different talents and gifts and a
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calling and a passion and a fire in you. And as you guard that anointing and you do the
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things that we've talked about in today's broadcast where you don't allow areas of compromise.
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You're not involved in repetitive sin. You're not yoking with unbelievers. You're not allowing
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areas of darkness in your life. You're guarding your life. You're guarding your family. You're
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guarding the ministry that the Lord has given you. I believe, because I've experienced this,
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I think you would agree with this Steve, is that the anointing increases. And as you're
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about the business of the Lord, when you shift the focus from being like for in my life,
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God focused to God focused. If I wake up every morning, instead of saying what God can do
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for me that day, I say, what can I do for God? How can I go out and make disciples?
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How can I go and be about the business of the Lord? What happens is the anointing comes.
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And so this is the crazy thing. I've been in a 7-11. I've been in a 7-11 and we were
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at NRB in Texas and the anointing was on me and my friend and there was a woman that had
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a headache. And we got to the front of the counter and I said, I don't know why, but
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the Holy Spirit's telling me I need to pray for you. And she says, oh my gosh, I have
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the worst migraine ever. I've taken a bunch of pills. Nothing's happened. I said, let
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me pray for you. So right there and then my friend and I started praying and the anointing
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of the Holy Spirit hit this lady in the 7-11. All the people in line, I'm not even kidding,
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the whole atmosphere shifted in that place. People were weeping. It was like a meeting
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that we had right there in that line. And the woman said instantly she was healed. She
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says, oh my gosh, it's gone. It's gone. So then the witness to the other people in the
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line, next thing you know, we're praying for the people down the line. This can happen
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anywhere, any day. I know it sounds crazy, but we've gotten the mentality that it's got
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to be in a church setting. We've got to be on a mountain top somewhere. No, it can happen
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in a supermarket. It happened in a Walmart, wherever you're at. God wants to meet you.
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And when you carry the anointing of the Holy Spirit and the Lord is guiding your path and
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ordering your steps and giving you an unction as you go, this is what happens, Steve.
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Wow, that's great. And we only have a few minutes left, but I want to find out the reaction
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you've gotten to this book come out from among them. It's been out now only a couple of months,
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but you've done media. You're talking about it on your own podcast. Before we're done,
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I want you to tell people how they can connect with you and your ministry there in Nashville.
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But what response are you getting from people? Tell me some stories.
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Yeah. You know, as we go around different churches and conferences, people come up to
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me and they say, thank you for writing this book because this has been what's been on
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my heart. Or I've had certain areas of the book where the Lord has been speaking to me,
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but this kind of colored in the, you know, the other areas, the other lines that I didn't
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quite know. Um, you know, a lot of people are just saying, I wish that this is what
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I hear the most is I wish that pastors would preach about these things. And that's what
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kind of hurts my heart because I know there are pastors out there and you may be a pastor
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that's watching this and you are preaching and teaching the entirety of the Bible. But
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it's become a reality that I realized this is definitely the case because it's just too
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many people saying it is that, you know, there's not enough people covering this. And so I
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believe God is giving us more time right now. One more round, if you will, even though we
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really don't deserve it as a nation, as a body of Christ, we need to repent, we need
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to turn back to him. But I believe this time is for two things. It's one, it's to save
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more souls. It's for the harvest because there are many people that are still going to come
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to know Jesus. But I think the other side of this, Steve, is that God wants to prepare
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his church. He wants us to have the tenacity, the stick to it, and this, the forward to
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it. He wants us to be able to be lasting and not when, when things get tougher, he doesn't
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want us to just fall. You know, like the, the three little pigs, you don't want us to
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be the house of straw. We need to be built on the solid foundation. We need to be built
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on the solid rock and our mind, body, and spirit. We all need to be in sync with the,
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the word of the Lord and what God would have us to do so that when the trials come, when
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the tests come, we know how to renew our strength. We know this is what the scripture said, but
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we're going to be okay because the Lord is with us and he's going to give us the understanding
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of how to navigate it. And I believe even this next year, I think it's going to be quite
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bumpy, but I believe there's going to be many people that are going to walk into the fullness
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of their calling. And as they walk in faith and do that, it's going to be a lot of no-name
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people. A lot of people that have been hidden, I believe that God is raising up for such
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a time as this. And so I would just say, you know, trust the Lord with all your heart,
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have an active prayer life, be in his word, encourage yourself in Christ. But that's what
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I think is happening. And this is the type of feedback that we get everywhere we go as
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people say, thank you. This is a message that needs to be spoke.
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Wow. Well, that's so well said, but as we wrap this up, tell people how to get hold
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of you and also explain to them once again, why they need to stop what they're doing right
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now. Go to Amazon or wherever they buy books online or get in their car and drive to a
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store and buy this book and share it with others.
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Yes. Amen. Well, you can go to pastor Todd.org pastor T O D D dot org. That's my website.
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The book is available there, but like Steve said, you go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble
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and all you gotta do is put in Todd, coconutto come out from among them and you'll see all
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the different places it's for sale. Of course you can go to my charisma as well. But let
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me just say this, this, this, if you're wives will get this. Okay. But I try to put things
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together without the instruction manual, Steve and I, sometimes it's a bad scene. Let me
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just tell you. So what this is, is this is a strategy. This is a strategy. This is a
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way that it's a supplement to the word of God. Of course, I always say go to the word
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of God first, make sure you're in the word of God. But if you have some time to read
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a book, I think this would be helpful because it's a strategy and an instruction manager,
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a manual, and it's going to set you up for success, especially where we are and where
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we're about to go. Well, thank you. And I appreciate you coming
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the string report. Tune in again for another episode. God bless you.