April 2, 2024

Is LGBTQ The End Of Humanity With Dr.Mark McDonald

Is LGBTQ The End Of Humanity With Dr.Mark McDonald

Welcome to the latest episode of 'Supernatural Junkies,' where skeptic Super Alex, believers Dr. Kevin and Dr Dennis as well as spiritual expert and Pastor Dr. Dozier dive deep into the mysterious aspects of our world. This episode features enlighten...

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Supernatural Junkies

Welcome to the latest episode of 'Supernatural Junkies,' where skeptic Super Alex, believers Dr. Kevin and Dr Dennis as well as spiritual expert and Pastor Dr. Dozier dive deep into the mysterious aspects of our world. This episode features enlightening discussions on a blend of topics ranging from the role of faith and the spiritual realm to the ways societal standards and pressures shape mental health issues in youth today.

Through a thoughtful dialogue with special guest Dr. Mark McDonald, the episode addresses matters of teenage artificial identity shifts, sexuality and transgenderism discourse, feminization of men, and mass delusional psychosis. We critically evaluate emerging societal trends and behaviors, reflecting on their role in perpetuating deeper individual and community issues.

Our guests underscore the urgent need for a shift in perspective on widespread mental health struggles among youth, particularly stemming from societal forces. They also critically evaluate the discourse on transgenderism and the dangers it poses to traditional family structures, offering deep insights into the flaws of 'gender-affirming care' and the ethical duties of medical practitioners. This thought-provoking episode concludes on an empowering note, urging parents to reclaim their rights and prioritize their children's well-being amidst such societal challenges.

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About our guest

About Dr. Mark McDonald

Born and raised in Los Angeles, Mark McDonald (author and publisher of Dissident MD) graduated from UC Berkeley before attending medical school at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Trained in both adult and child and adolescent psychiatry at UCLA, he now works primarily with children in private practice in west Los Angeles. Dr. McDonald has lived and worked in Europe, Asia, and Central America. His opinions on topics such as the need to re-open America’s schools, and the pandemic of fear in the United States today, have been widely published in local and national news, including the Wall Street Journal and The Federalist.

In 2021 he published his first book: United States of Fear: How America Fell Victim to a Mass Delusional Psychosis. His second book, Freedom From Fear: A 12 Step Guide to Individual and National Recovery, approaches the crisis of fear addiction from the perspective of the individual, incorporating the recovery model and aspects of Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules For Life. For all available books written by Dr. McDonald, visit his website Dissident MD. Dr. McDonald also publishes a podcast with Dr. Jeff Barke called Informed Dissent.

To find out more about Mark McDonald please visit https://markmcdonaldmd.substack.com

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Chapters

00:00 - Introduction

01:03 - Supernatural Junkies Gear

01:54 - Introducing the Supernatural Junkies Team

03:02 - Special Guest: Dr. Mark McDonald

14:04 - The Root of Destructive Changes

15:29 - Weakening Sense of Identity

18:31 - Consequences of Neglecting Family Values

20:46 - Attack on Life Itself

21:35 - Antithetical Actions to God’s Order

27:06 - Call for Judgment and Distinctions

29:38 - Distinguishing Transgenderism from LG

33:28 - Misconceptions about Gay Men

36:31 - Transgenderism as a Social Contagion

38:39 - Encouraging Restraint in Sexual Behavior

45:13 - Gender-Affirming Care Legislation

52:59 - Financial Incentives in Medicine

56:41 - Changing Landscape in Europe

01:02:11 - The Truth About Transgender Treatments

01:04:36 - Masculinity and Spiritual Aspects

01:08:30 - Protecting Children from Gender-Affirming Meds

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Hello, everyone. This is Dr. Kevin Cruz, and Alex is going to be joining us in a second.

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We are the Supernatural Junkies, and we have all the doctors in the house.

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And we have a very special guest today, Dr. Mark McDonald.

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And of course, a lot of people are familiar with him because he was on some pretty famous movies.

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And so he also wrote a book. And of course, it's about a lot of things,

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but it's called The United States of Fear, How America Fell Victim to a Mass Delusional Psychosis.

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He is author and he is also a publisher of The Dissident MD.

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He graduated from UC Berkeley before attending medical school at Medical College of Wisconsin.

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He's been trained in both adult and child and adolescent psychiatry at UCLA.

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And he now primarily works with children in his private practice in Los Angeles.

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List. So welcome to the show, Dr.

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Mark, and we appreciate it. Dr.

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Dennis, I know you were formulating questions for this young man,

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so I'm going to let you go first.

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Dr. Mark, before we started the podcast, I had asked you about if you had any

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of these patients in your office and you gave us a little explanation of how you don't.

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But going from that, that how do

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we help these parents dealing

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with these transgender children

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that are being brainwashed in the schools and so unfortunately by the time the

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contagion and it is a social contagion of transgenderism takes root it's not

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a biological medical or even really emotional emotional problem,

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it is purely a social contagion that can then morph into a mental illness,

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obviously, which is why it's so important to combat it.

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By the time it takes root, it's often very difficult, if not impossible,

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for the parents to eradicate it.

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So the best thing that the parent can do is to identify it early.

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And I would even say, identify the possibility of the contagion early.

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What I mean by that is, if you haven't already, ready.

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Take your child out of a government or private school and homeschool your child.

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That's a preventive action.

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That's like putting a hat on and wearing long-sleeved shirts when you go out into the sun.

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By the time you wait for the burn, there's really not much you can do to protect

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your skin. It's already occurred.

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Your child going day in and day out to a government or private school for eight

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hours a day plus lunchroom and post-school activities, most of of which are done in secret.

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You don't even have the right to know about them. Many courts have decided against parental.

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Acknowledgement and informing of what happens at

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these transgender clubs already puts

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you behind because now your influence is limited to a few minutes

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in the evening and on weekends versus 40 hours a week of indoctrination in school

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that's vital take your kids out of government and private schools second you

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must take away the smartphone from your child if you have a child that's under

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age 18 that child should not have access to a smartphone at all period no exceptions Exceptions. None.

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I used to be ambivalent about this. I used to say, well, under certain circumstances

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with parental controls and locks, it's useful, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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It's not. There's no reason why a child should have a phone.

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I didn't grow up with a phone. I was fine.

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Flip phones is another story. You can text, you can call. You need it for emergencies,

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give your child a flip phone. No smartphones.

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Computers should only be accessed in a common room in the house.

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Children should not have computers in their bedrooms.

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Never. There's There's no reason for it. They should be in the kitchen or the

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living room. They should be tracked.

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You should tell your child, I'll give you access to the computer,

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but I will be looking at every single website you visited and I guarantee that I'll check it every day.

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If you do that, you will already have eliminated about 80 to 90% of the possibility

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of the LGBTQ contagion from your child.

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I'm not talking about so much the gay and lesbian issue. That's a totally separate

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issue. I'm talking about transgenderism, which is really a mental illness.

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It's not a sexual preference idea. It's actually a psychological issue.

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So, so doc, if I go backwards and, you know, you've been working with kids and

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what are some of the kinds of kids that you've worked with in a general way

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over the last, let's say since 2018?

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So the biggest shift I've seen with children who I've seen from age five up

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to 18 in the last five to 10 years is a slowly and now more recently rapidly change.

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Disappearing weakening sense of

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identity and i believe that that

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if you think of it like an immune system an emotional immune

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system has weakened children to be susceptible to this

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contagion of transgenderism because when a child grows

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up with a strong identity a male or female young girl young boy identity they

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are much less likely to be infected by this social contagion because they already

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know who they are they don't need another identity now it is normal and completely

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natural for young girls and young boys to go through a crisis of identity during puberty.

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And this is the reason why the number of transgendered girls in the pubertal

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phase has skyrocketed in the last 10 years.

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Historically, there's been a very, very small percentage of transgendered kids in the population.

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It's been fixed for the last 100, 200, 300 years.

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It It suddenly exploded about five, ten years ago. And interestingly,

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it exploded not in boys, but in girls.

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The percentage of boys that were transgendered was always far,

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far, far eclipsing the percentage of girls. Now it's reversed.

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Why is that? Did we suddenly have a genetic mutation among young girls to become

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transgendered? No, this is not biological. This is not genetic. This is environmental.

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It's 100% induced. induced and it's

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induced in girls largely because young girls suffer more

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from their identity crisis in puberty than boys do

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right and today they don't know which way

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is up they don't know how to express their femininity they don't know how to

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look pretty how to be alluring how to attract young men because they're told

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that they shouldn't they're told that they should look like boys or at least

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look androgynous and that doesn't make them happy that doesn't make them feel

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valued They're told, be strong,

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compete against boys, and get a job.

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That doesn't actually resonate with women in general.

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So these girls then move through their pubertal years wondering, well, who am I?

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Who am I supposed to become? And at school, they're identified by their teachers,

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their counselors, their friends as unhappy, as depressed, which they are,

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anxious, which they are.

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But rather than being referred for therapy for their anxiety and their depression

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and to understand how they're moving through their adolescence,

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they're told, do you know what the problem is?

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The problem, Mary, is not that you're anxious or depressed.

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The problem is you're actually a boy. We have a club that will help you with that. It meets at lunch.

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Don't tell your parents because they won't support this. It's very important

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that you keep this a secret.

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And then that girl shows up at the club and there's all these other girls with

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short hair and jeans and t-shirts on that say, yeah, I'm a boy too.

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Are you a boy? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe we think you are.

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And they develop an identity in this transgenderism halt that is inculcated

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on social media and in schools.

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And I've seen that as a huge shift in the last 10 years, not necessarily with

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the patients I see, but the precursor to it is present in the patients I see.

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The precursor is this floundering loss of support for the normal identity crisis

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of adolescents and young girls. And because we're not addressing that,

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we're actually making it worse.

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We're creating a problem in order to have a so-called solution.

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And the solution is to ultimately push girls into becoming what they think of as boys.

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Same thing that happened in 2020 medically. Politically, we created a problem

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which was making everybody sick and anxious and depressed and staying at home

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and wearing masks in order to have a solution,

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which was for everyone to get this so-called vaccine, which was going to free

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us from that horrible morass of being locked at home.

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But had we not done that, had we not locked our country down,

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we wouldn't have needed this solution.

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And this is a common recurring theme throughout human history among controlling

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fascist centralized power dictators.

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When there is a need to aggrandize more power, collect more money,

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take over a country, take over a people, you create a problem,

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you instigate a problem, and then you'd show up and you offer a solution to it.

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And everybody is so desperate for a solution to the problem that they just fell

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in their lap in the last six months that they're willing to do anything.

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And anything usually means giving up your liberty.

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And these poor girls, they're not only giving up their liberty,

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they're giving up their bodies, they're giving up their mental health,

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they're giving up their fertility, which can never be ever, ever returned to

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them, and a lifelong patient.

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Imprisonment of infections and hormonal adjustments and cancer and organ dysfunction,

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which of course benefits nobody except insurance companies, surgeons,

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pharmaceutical companies, because they make a fortune off of these young girls

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that have been sacrificed to their own cause, just like the so-called vaccine

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manufacturers did in 2021-23, and now they're doing with new drugs for fat people

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like Manjaro, which is creating a problem, making people fat.

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And then later on, giving them the solution, which is drugs.

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There was a study that just came out of paper, a poster that was supported by

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the American Heart Association that went all over media that excoriated fasting,

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intermittent fasting as leading to a 91% correlation with death from cardiovascular disease.

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91% chance you die if you skip breakfast every day.

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Why would you do that? Why would you promote something like that?

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You promote it because fat people make money for the medical industry and the

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pharmaceutical industry.

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So I'm bringing in these examples that don't have anything to do with transgenderism

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to show that there's a bigger war going on.

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And transgenderism is just the most obvious battle in this war for independence

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versus control of our bodies and our minds. Oh, that was excellent.

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And it didn't start in 2020. It started decades earlier.

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It started with the loss of our freedoms, centralization of government,

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the rise of the entitlement narcissist culture of the hippies,

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which are now the baby boomers, which are leading the charge towards fascism.

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Ironically, the ones that were supposed to be anarchists are now in charge of

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pushing activist causes that remove our freedom for discourse,

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for civil rights, for First Amendment protections, for gun rights, all of that.

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What I've seen, seeing sort of the roots and the growth of this movement towards

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really a massive government state in the last 20 or 30 years,

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is that young people have been basically ideologically brainwashed to go against

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their natures of exploration, curiosity,

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social play, the healthy challenge

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of authority, and ultimately separation individuation from their parents.

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We're seeing the opposite of all of those things happening now.

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Kids are only playing in isolated areas of their homes over headsets and Wi-Fi

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on either video games for boys or social media consoles for girls.

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They are not involved in sports, acting, music anymore. All that was taken away

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in 2020 and it's barely come back.

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The Cub Scouts and the Boy Scouts are gone. They've been forcibly disbanded

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because the Cub Scouts and the Boy Scouts wouldn't allow the girls to go into

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the boys and the boys to go into the girls, understandably so.

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The separation from the family has disappeared because now, more so than any

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previous generation, after high school, boys and girls both,

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especially boys who need the individuation far more than girls,

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are living with their parents.

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They started that in 2020 when they weren't allowed to go to college.

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They were supposed to do virtual university from their garage,

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well, they're still doing it.

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They're still living at home and their parents are still taking care of them.

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Their parents are not kicking them out of the house.

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The boys are not launching. They're not becoming men.

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There's also a complete breakdown, total complete breakdown in the social integration

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of boys and girls as they become young men and young women.

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Young boys, teenagers, in my practice, they are scared to death of asking a

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girl out, much less even saying that she's attractive or you look nice today lest they be accused of,

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misogyny or patriarchy or god forbid even assault in some cases because words

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are violence right that's what we're told now speech is hate and hate of course

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is criminal i have one patient in my practice who was charged falsely with rape

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while he was at graduate school i had seen him for 10 10 years as a teenager,

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a few years ago in Michigan at business school, his whole life has been ruined.

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He doesn't even want to leave his parents home now, even though he won the case

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and the girl was mentally ill actually.

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Because he's scared to death that this is going to happen to him again.

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And if it does, he'll lose his job, his career.

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He'll be ostracized from the local community here in Los Angeles.

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When people Google his name, the first thing that pops up is accused of rape,

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comma, first name, last name in Michigan has been blah, blah.

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As soon as you see rape and your name, it's all over.

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So there has been, I think, a attack on normal, healthy development in children

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at every level for the last five to 10 years, certainly in the last four to five years.

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That has led these poor young children to be emotionally unwell,

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psychologically confused,

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physically out of shape, socially autistic, and professionally way out of their

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league in being able to even hold down a job because they don't even know what a work ethic is anymore.

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I think we're looking at a massive disaster that's going to be crashing on our

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shores in the next five to 10 years.

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We're already seeing it washing up right now. Now, if you ask people about hiring

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practices, no one wants to hire young people because they can't trust them.

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They can't count on them.

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It's going to get far worse before it gets better unless we,

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the adults, take charge and start bringing our children back under our wings

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and not allowing them to be informed and brainwashed and controlled by social

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media, by government, and by schools.

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I think that's an excellent detailed answer, because what you're seeing,

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we're seeing the consequences of the destruction of the family over the last 40 years.

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And now they're so vulnerable that they don't, they do not, you know,

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the kids don't go out to play.

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I remember when I was a child, I couldn't get off the ball field.

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I mean, I didn't come home until my mom rang the bell, the dinner bell, you know.

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And now these kids, they don't go out. They're on their phones.

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They're staring at these phones. They can't have conversations,

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and you see the attack on the human race is basically what we're seeing.

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You're correct. This is at its fundamental root cause, and this is what unifies

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all people, whether they're atheist, religious, Jews, Christians,

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gay, straight, rich, poor.

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What is unifying in everything I just talked about is that there is an attack on life itself.

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It is satanic. I can't fully give an answer or a rationale for all of this that

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is in the physical realm.

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There has to be some satanic, evil element involved that is so piercing and

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so focused on the attack against life.

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And the core element, the core unit, human-created unit, not life,

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which is created by God, but the human unit that's created by humans that promotes

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life is the family. If you can destroy the family, you will destroy life.

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And every single thing that we have been seeing in the last 20,

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30, 40 years, the last four years is huge, that is disturbing and unwell and

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destructive, all targets the family.

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Because if you can wipe the family out, then everything else falls.

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That's why I think the family is under such attack, and that's why I think the

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transgender movement...

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Is so dangerous and also so well-funded because transgenderism at its core,

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it's not just an attack on girls and boys, it's an attack on the family.

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Because you cannot have a family if you're transgender. If you infertilize yourself,

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if you make it impossible to reproduce, then you won't have children.

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So you end humanity. The human race ultimately ends if transgenderism succeeds.

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That is about the most bleak pronouncement I can imagine for any cause.

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It's like in the 1980s, the threat of massive thermonuclear war.

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That's what we're looking at with transgenderism and not a shot being fired.

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Yeah, well, they took over the world in 2020 without firing a shot, too.

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You know, I mean, and like you said, it's problem, action, solution.

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And that's their modus operandi.

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It is. Yes. So, Dr., you know, we were you go ahead, Dr. Broderick.

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You would look at this and you said a certain word and that opened the door.

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I mean, you just shoot on in here when you mention it was satanic.

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And we look at that as adversarial, of course. If you would look at this and

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I've been looking at it this way for some time because it's true.

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What you're seeing is I think what you're seeing today is everything that is

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antithetical to what God placed in order. Okay.

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For example, God said male, female.

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And so what you see here is a perversion of this. Now, you went to the family as well.

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And I'm going to ask a question from what I'm saying. You went to the family

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and the need for the family to once again take charge of the raising of their

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children. And I'm saying take charge because a lot of families did neglect this. They let it go.

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And they depended on the government. They depended on the school.

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They depended on teachers to bring their children out.

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Now, counseling, as I'm sure you're aware of, there's a term that is known as

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desensitization or systematic desensitization.

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to an environment that can be damaging to them, you gradually introduce it to

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them until this no longer affects them.

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Does it seem to be like a reversal of that?

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And what we see where individuals are being desensitized from what they were

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made to be and getting to believe that there's something else.

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this identity crisis, for example, girls being tomboys or whatever,

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and they seem to not fit and people may have made fun of them.

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And then we have an education system and other people who are speaking to our

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children and saying, no, there's not a problem.

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This is what the issue is. You're not embracing who you really are.

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And the person struggles with that for a while, but they hear it more and more and more.

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is conducive to this. And then soon they're no longer there.

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Sensitive to what they really are. They've been desensitized and now they begin

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to believe that there's something else.

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Could we be seeing something that I know that's usually not used that way,

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but could we be seeing that sort of like in a reverse?

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I think that there is,

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more of a displacement of the problem

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than a desensitization or reverse desensitization that's

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occurring because human beings

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will always struggle and it's identifying the

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struggles honestly and facing them honestly that allows one to grow and develop

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due to a combination of affluence narcissism and entitlement that have been

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labeled as virtuous starting in 2020 2020,

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infused with what I would call the victim culture, we've now developed a renorming

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of society where acknowledging and facing real struggles is no longer considered to be virtuous.

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In fact, doing the opposite is disavowing your struggle, displacing it into

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something else that's fictional, and then fighting it by attacking other people

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who are doing good and claiming victimhood status is now considered to be virtuous.

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I know for a fact, because I just spoke to a university student back east who

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dropped out of a graduate school program in English after she couldn't handle

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the wokeism in the department, that the actual papers,

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the academic papers that are being written and taught

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and assigned to the students in the English departments around

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the United States identify and i'm

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not paraphrasing this is the exact words that they use they

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advocate for victimhood as

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identity specifically this one paper i just read today referred to blacks black

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americans as unbelievably not free until they accept lifelong victimhood so

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they perverted the the word with freedom to make it an enslavement.

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They've inverted the actual struggle for equality and said, the only way to

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be equal is to accept that you're unequal and play the victim role for the rest of your life.

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Now, this article was about blacks, but you could substitute any so-called aggrieved

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group in the United States.

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It could be gay, it could be women, it could be Christians, it could be white

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people. It doesn't matter, whatever it is. Any aggrieved group.

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Should take on an identity, not just like an event, like I was victimized by

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a car hitting my home yesterday, but today I'm starting to repair the house.

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No, this is an identity that you take on. They use the word philosophy and ideology,

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that we should all become permanent, chronic victims in order to be free and

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in order to feel good about ourselves.

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This is the inversion of good psychological health.

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And this is what's being taught to young people. It's what's being taught to

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university students. It's what's being taught to employees.

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It's what's being taught to us as citizens by the government.

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This, I think, is the confluence of a lot of bad things that have been brewing

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in the last few decades and in the last four or five years.

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And attacking it and criticizing it is very difficult because the moment that

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you do that, you are put outside and And you are being seen as an aggressor,

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as a misogynist, as a racist, as a transphobe.

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Fill in the phobe and you've got it. Islamophobic, etc.

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Until we are able to identify this and speak to it truthfully,

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call it out for what it is, make it evil.

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Tucker Carlson says this a lot. He says we need to call out evil for evil.

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We need to make judgments. We need to criticize. We don't need what many people

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in what I would call the naive,

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well-intentioned, weak, traditional liberal Democrat voter often do,

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which is calling for more conversation, not judging, hearing all sides, being sensitive,

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being forgiving, because this actually invites more of what I just described.

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I think that one of the core goals of collectivism and leftism and Satanism.

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Is to erase distinctions, is to make it impossible to issue a judgment,

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just as the recent proclamation by the Pope, who is ostensibly representing the Catholic Church,

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said, I wish and I hope that no souls are in hell.

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Why did he say that? He said that because if there were souls in hell,

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that would mean that they were judged.

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And if you judge, that means that you state what is good and what is is evil.

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And our Pope, our Catholic Pope, is a leftist. He's a collectivist. He's a communist.

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He's maybe not a bad person in his intentions, but he does bad things because

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it doesn't matter what your intention is. What matters is what you do in your actions.

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And his intention is to make people feel good, to not be judged,

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to not tell the child who has spilled the milk, who has beaten the cat,

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who has not done his homework, that he's bad.

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No, we need to have more conversations. We We can't judge. We just have to do

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timeouts. No, we have to say, when you spill the milk, you have to clean it

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up. You're not allowed to hurt animals.

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If you don't turn in your homework, you get an F and you lose your dinner and

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you don't get your allowance.

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But these are judgments. And a lot of people who are otherwise well-intentioned

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today, good people that want to do right, they don't want to judge.

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And we need to do more judging. We need to do more distinctions,

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more delineations of right and wrong, good and evil.

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And that is exactly the opposite of what the left wants. The left wants no judgment.

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The left wants impassioned attack.

405
00:29:09,021 --> 00:29:12,741
They want Trump derangement syndrome to continue. They want people to foam at

406
00:29:12,741 --> 00:29:18,061
the mouth and go and like zombies and hordes go in and mob people and toss them

407
00:29:18,061 --> 00:29:20,001
out of stores because they don't want to wear masks.

408
00:29:20,161 --> 00:29:22,981
But that's not really judgment. That's just mob mentality.

409
00:29:23,701 --> 00:29:29,001
Judgment is about delivering a decision with empathy, but a decision that's

410
00:29:29,001 --> 00:29:31,901
dispassionate, that's not driven by emotion, but driven by values.

411
00:29:31,901 --> 00:29:37,321
This is what I think is going on in the bigger picture on a philosophical and a spiritual level.

412
00:29:38,463 --> 00:29:44,963
So, Mark, I was going to ask you, you said there's a difference between the LG and then the BTQ.

413
00:29:45,083 --> 00:29:49,123
And I know a lot of people, we've talked about that, but tell us what you mean by that.

414
00:29:49,543 --> 00:29:54,203
It's really important to distinguish transgenderism from everything else.

415
00:29:54,843 --> 00:30:00,683
I don't know why the lesbian and gay activist community allowed the transgender

416
00:30:00,683 --> 00:30:06,283
letter to be attached to their moniker, their acronym, because they have nothing to do with one another.

417
00:30:06,283 --> 00:30:13,963
In fact, I would say that gays and lesbians, they have the most to lose from

418
00:30:13,963 --> 00:30:15,023
the transgender movement.

419
00:30:16,463 --> 00:30:24,123
Lesbian women, for example, lesbian girls, they want protection from male predators.

420
00:30:24,563 --> 00:30:33,463
And most of the transgendered men, for example, in prisons or in sports competitions, prey on women.

421
00:30:33,463 --> 00:30:37,603
Women they victimize women most transgendered

422
00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:40,463
adult men are not even sexually confused most of

423
00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:43,323
them are heterosexual they just want access to women

424
00:30:43,323 --> 00:30:47,143
in a way that wasn't afforded to them legally or socially in locker rooms in

425
00:30:47,143 --> 00:30:53,423
bathrooms in prisons in sports competitions why on earth any lesbian woman would

426
00:30:53,423 --> 00:30:58,743
support the transgender community is beyond me i think that to distinguish The

427
00:30:58,743 --> 00:31:00,843
distinguish between transgenderism,

428
00:31:00,903 --> 00:31:02,403
which is a mental illness,

429
00:31:02,603 --> 00:31:08,903
and gay and lesbianism, which is a sexual preference or a sexual orientation,

430
00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:11,423
is paramount.

431
00:31:11,483 --> 00:31:16,543
Because gays and lesbians don't have a predilection for preying on children

432
00:31:16,543 --> 00:31:21,563
or raping people, but transgenders do, especially transgendered men.

433
00:31:21,563 --> 00:31:29,643
And I think it's a defamation of character to make the assumption that gays

434
00:31:29,643 --> 00:31:35,503
and lesbians would support transgender rights, so to speak, which means being able to have access to,

435
00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:37,483
from the point of view of men,

436
00:31:37,703 --> 00:31:40,543
very vulnerable young girls and women.

437
00:31:40,543 --> 00:31:45,903
Because that implies that somehow as had been implied 40 or 50 years ago that

438
00:31:45,903 --> 00:31:52,443
gay men like to molest boys or that lesbian women are somehow.

439
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:57,432
Trying to coerce and blackmail young girls into becoming gay.

440
00:31:57,572 --> 00:32:02,352
And this was all disproven. It was a calumny, really, against gays and lesbians.

441
00:32:02,572 --> 00:32:07,712
And I think that the rise of groups like Gays Against Groomers is an excellent

442
00:32:07,712 --> 00:32:11,832
sign that gays, that's gay men and gay women,

443
00:32:11,892 --> 00:32:16,892
are finally starting to realize that their struggle for equal legal rights and

444
00:32:16,892 --> 00:32:18,252
to be left alone, essentially,

445
00:32:18,512 --> 00:32:25,932
is being hijacked on the part of pedophilia performing men and confused and

446
00:32:25,932 --> 00:32:32,472
victimized young adolescent girls in order to take advantage of people who are actually vulnerable.

447
00:32:32,692 --> 00:32:36,312
And this is wrong. This is evil. And that's why I think the transgender issue

448
00:32:36,312 --> 00:32:40,972
unifies everyone, even gays and lesbians, because even they have something to

449
00:32:40,972 --> 00:32:43,532
lose by the takeover of their movement from the transgender right.

450
00:32:43,692 --> 00:32:48,832
Well, we're starting to see conservative gays actually talk about the separation

451
00:32:48,832 --> 00:32:53,452
from the transgender because the The message of the transgender is that you

452
00:32:53,452 --> 00:32:57,592
can't have a sexual preference, right? Because that's some sort of ism, right?

453
00:32:57,692 --> 00:33:02,352
You're transphobic against them if you have, in fact, a sexual preference.

454
00:33:02,492 --> 00:33:05,312
You know, like that's completely opposite the gay and lesbians,

455
00:33:05,512 --> 00:33:07,592
which is clearly a sexual preference.

456
00:33:08,112 --> 00:33:13,372
So it's wild that this is happening. But you do see some movement toward that separation now.

457
00:33:13,552 --> 00:33:17,252
And I think as it continues to go further and further into madness,

458
00:33:17,632 --> 00:33:19,852
I'm pretty sure they will split. it.

459
00:33:19,872 --> 00:33:23,132
I hope, you know, because that's, that's just pure insanity at that point.

460
00:33:23,872 --> 00:33:27,792
I heard you say that. I want to make sure I heard you right.

461
00:33:28,052 --> 00:33:32,732
And I'm sort of, I'm, I'm kind of like the, the semantics going to be a little

462
00:33:32,732 --> 00:33:37,332
different, but I heard you say that gay men or homosexual men,

463
00:33:37,392 --> 00:33:39,772
I'm speaking to Dr. McDonald right now.

464
00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:46,152
You said that gay men, I believe you said not not predatorial towards boys or

465
00:33:46,152 --> 00:33:51,252
something like that, or something of that nature, okay?

466
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,840
If they're gay men, their preference is going to be other males.

467
00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:03,040
So what is your take on how they go about this?

468
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Well, what I meant by that very specifically is that gay men are not a priori

469
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,700
more likely to be child molesters than straight men.

470
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,560
Obviously, they're attracted to men, so they're

471
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,540
more likely to have sex with other men than heterosexual men are

472
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:24,560
who have virtually no predilection for sexual activity with

473
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,400
men unlike women who tend to be more

474
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,760
and this is actually true sexually fluid meaning most

475
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,920
women are capable of having sexual relationships

476
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,300
with men or women most heterosexual women they make the choice to be with men

477
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:44,160
but they often most women most adult women have had some either sexual fantasies

478
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,840
or sexual experiences with other women even though they don't consider themselves

479
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
gay That is very rare for a heterosexual man.

480
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,900
Male sexuality appears to be really hardwired. Female sexuality is not.

481
00:34:56,340 --> 00:35:03,260
But the point that I made about the pedophilia is that there is a very high

482
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:10,100
incidence of self-defined and self-described transgender men engaging in sex with children,

483
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,640
especially children of the same sex.

484
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,680
And for gay men to support transgendered

485
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:24,540
men's access to public areas like locker rooms and bathrooms and places in sports

486
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:30,320
teams where young people are likely to be present and vulnerable is unbelievable

487
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,700
because that simply reinforces the long-held,

488
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,320
widely-held belief that gay men are likely to have sex with young children,

489
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,040
children, which I don't believe has been shown to be true.

490
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,560
That's why I think it's so important to separate these out and to look at this

491
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,100
from a position of values.

492
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:55,339
The fact that one is gay doesn't indicate that that person wants to vote for

493
00:35:55,339 --> 00:35:56,479
Democrats, for example.

494
00:35:56,659 --> 00:36:01,319
There's a lot of conservative gay men and conservative gay women because sexual

495
00:36:01,319 --> 00:36:03,119
preference doesn't determine your values.

496
00:36:03,419 --> 00:36:05,739
There's a lot of gays in the church, a lot of religious people.

497
00:36:06,279 --> 00:36:11,679
Sexual preference has nothing to do with politics. So why on earth would a politically

498
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:15,359
charged issue like transgenderism be attached to gay and lesbianism?

499
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:23,279
Because I have not yet met a single active transgendered individual who is a

500
00:36:23,279 --> 00:36:28,059
vocal conservative because they are intricately tied together.

501
00:36:28,279 --> 00:36:30,099
And that's why I don't believe it's biological.

502
00:36:31,259 --> 00:36:36,099
Sexuality is largely biological. Transgenderism has nothing to do with biology.

503
00:36:36,419 --> 00:36:39,419
It's a mental illness. and years ago

504
00:36:39,419 --> 00:36:42,959
we used to call homosexuality a mental illness the dsm-4

505
00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:45,819
the psychological diagnostic and statistical manual removed

506
00:36:45,819 --> 00:36:48,739
that decades ago in order to reduce or remove

507
00:36:48,739 --> 00:36:53,279
the stigma of homosexuality from mental illness and put it into more of a biological

508
00:36:53,279 --> 00:36:58,539
category well if we if we start to put transgenderism into a biological category

509
00:36:58,539 --> 00:37:03,379
we're doomed we have to keep it as it is which is a social contagion that manifests

510
00:37:03,379 --> 00:37:06,499
as a mental illness and that is is distinct from sexual preference.

511
00:37:08,439 --> 00:37:15,499
Now, placing that in a category, because I'm unfamiliar, they changed it from

512
00:37:15,499 --> 00:37:21,759
a disorder to really what these end up being with the people who felt it was wrong.

513
00:37:22,579 --> 00:37:25,919
They had the disorder, homophobia. So another one of those phobias coming up.

514
00:37:26,739 --> 00:37:28,459
So that's in the world of science.

515
00:37:29,619 --> 00:37:35,279
But if we just look at it as science and say, okay, it's all acceptable.

516
00:37:35,579 --> 00:37:37,779
Now I'm going to come from a biblical aspect.

517
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,480
Are we helping them any as far as they'll walk with God?

518
00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:46,900
Because I heard you say Christians who are, there can be people who profess

519
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:51,300
to be, but as true Christians, we have to line up with the word and will of God.

520
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,940
And so there will be, if a person is born again, they have the spirit of God,

521
00:37:56,060 --> 00:38:02,180
but there not be a desire to change and be set free from whatever this is.

522
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:05,020
Is man can change it and say so because it

523
00:38:05,020 --> 00:38:08,180
fits man we can say more rays or whatever but god

524
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,500
remains the same forever well how do we look at that well that's

525
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:16,520
a that's a religious and spiritual question that i'm not an expert at and wouldn't

526
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,800
want to speak on okay my personal opinion is that and my understanding is that

527
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:30,620
in most churches the goal is not to take away or eliminate or reverse reverse sexual preference,

528
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,700
but to encourage the individual to restrict the acting on or the behaving on

529
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,840
of that sexual preference.

530
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Because it's very difficult, particularly with men, to reverse a preference

531
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,460
for men to a preference for women.

532
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:50,820
Unless someone's bisexual, in which case it really is, by definition,

533
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:52,760
it's a choice, isn't it, who you sleep with?

534
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,900
But for most gay gay men, I don't believe that it's a choice for them to be gay.

535
00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:03,180
It's a lot easier to be not gay, actually. Being gay actually makes your life

536
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:04,440
a lot harder if you're a man.

537
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:07,980
For a woman, it might be a little different. But for men, it's definitely not

538
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,380
a choice most people would make.

539
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,480
On the other hand, transgenderism really isn't about behavior,

540
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:16,920
is it? It's really about the.

541
00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:20,318
Your so-called identity. And

542
00:39:20,318 --> 00:39:26,018
the only way for you to manifest that identity is to go out into society,

543
00:39:26,838 --> 00:39:32,538
dressed as and acting as someone of the opposite sex, which immediately changes

544
00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:35,618
the social mores, as you said, or the social milieu.

545
00:39:35,958 --> 00:39:41,858
One can be homosexual and be completely unassuming.

546
00:39:41,918 --> 00:39:44,778
You don't have to dress differently. You don't have to have a gay accent.

547
00:39:44,998 --> 00:39:50,378
You don't have to make out with people in public, you can basically live the

548
00:39:50,378 --> 00:39:54,978
life of a straight man as a gay man and no one really is the wiser and why should they?

549
00:39:55,458 --> 00:40:00,538
What you do as a sexual being, certainly outside of a church setting and a social

550
00:40:00,538 --> 00:40:01,718
setting is really no one's business.

551
00:40:01,918 --> 00:40:04,678
At a church, obviously there's other issues involved, understandably.

552
00:40:05,318 --> 00:40:09,018
But with transgenderism, I don't think you can do that. How can you live a hidden

553
00:40:09,018 --> 00:40:12,598
life of a transgender without, by definition, going out and expressing yourself

554
00:40:12,598 --> 00:40:17,098
as the opposite sex? And now you're presenting that to the public and to children,

555
00:40:17,158 --> 00:40:18,618
and you're having an effect on society.

556
00:40:18,778 --> 00:40:25,418
And that's why I think it's problematic. Well, and there is a spiritual non-material

557
00:40:25,418 --> 00:40:29,958
assumption that somehow I was born in the wrong body.

558
00:40:30,318 --> 00:40:33,598
But I want you to get to some of these action plans.

559
00:40:33,718 --> 00:40:39,438
So to me, if I'm born in the wrong body, they're going to put me on these chemical

560
00:40:39,438 --> 00:40:42,378
castration drugs that are going to mutilate my body.

561
00:40:42,558 --> 00:40:48,098
Can you describe some of what that really means as far as the drugs and the surgeries?

562
00:40:48,618 --> 00:40:51,898
So you've just brought up a really important point, Kevin. I think this is a

563
00:40:51,898 --> 00:40:58,218
critical aspect of the transgender debate that everyone must understand,

564
00:40:58,458 --> 00:41:02,978
either the parents, the teachers, the pastors, everyone, and that is the following.

565
00:41:02,978 --> 00:41:06,498
Going transgenderism is not

566
00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:09,438
a biological medical or physical

567
00:41:09,438 --> 00:41:12,458
illness for example as is

568
00:41:12,458 --> 00:41:16,178
having six toes where the

569
00:41:16,178 --> 00:41:19,478
the treatment for that if you wish to undergo treatment is to have one of the

570
00:41:19,478 --> 00:41:25,258
toes amputated and now you have five toes and now you're normal if we had somebody

571
00:41:25,258 --> 00:41:29,778
and we still do today although it's less common come to a therapist's office

572
00:41:29,778 --> 00:41:35,618
and say i think my nose is a a foot long and my waist is 35 inches around,

573
00:41:35,878 --> 00:41:40,138
even though I measure my nose as two inches and my waist is 24 inches,

574
00:41:40,358 --> 00:41:45,618
therefore I want to have half my nose cut off and I want to have 40% of the

575
00:41:45,618 --> 00:41:47,078
fat in my abdomen taken out.

576
00:41:47,598 --> 00:41:53,678
The therapist or the doctor ethically must say, no, your nose is two inches,

577
00:41:53,718 --> 00:41:57,058
your waist is 24, you have what's called body dysmorphic disorder.

578
00:41:57,338 --> 00:42:01,718
That is an emotional or psychological illness. The treatment involves therapy

579
00:42:01,718 --> 00:42:04,818
and perhaps medication, psychiatric medication.

580
00:42:05,118 --> 00:42:09,178
That is the treatment I will offer you because you don't have a biological problem.

581
00:42:10,324 --> 00:42:14,124
What we have done now, which is anathema to medicine,

582
00:42:14,384 --> 00:42:19,704
first do no harm, and then of course tell the truth, is we have allowed for

583
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:26,244
the diagnosis of transgenders and to shift from a mental illness to a medical biological condition.

584
00:42:26,684 --> 00:42:31,724
And once you do that, it opens the door for medical and biological treatments, which as you described,

585
00:42:31,964 --> 00:42:35,444
involve surgeries and mutilations of the breasts, the genitals,

586
00:42:35,624 --> 00:42:40,464
as well as treatments treatments to remove certain facial features and bone

587
00:42:40,464 --> 00:42:41,844
changes in the bone structure,

588
00:42:42,064 --> 00:42:51,284
and the castration and freezing of puberty by puberty blockers in either pre-pubertal

589
00:42:51,284 --> 00:42:53,724
boys and girls or post-pubertal young men and women,

590
00:42:53,884 --> 00:42:58,424
all of which cause irreversible damage to the body, infertility,

591
00:42:58,464 --> 00:43:00,344
cancer, chronic infections,

592
00:43:00,684 --> 00:43:04,244
none of which can be easily reversed if reversed at all.

593
00:43:04,244 --> 00:43:07,024
All of which all of which would

594
00:43:07,024 --> 00:43:10,204
be considered grounds for a malpractice lawsuit a

595
00:43:10,204 --> 00:43:12,824
civil massive lawsuit if the doctor were to

596
00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:15,604
do that to someone like i just described who thought her nose were

597
00:43:15,604 --> 00:43:19,184
too big or her waist were too large we are we

598
00:43:19,184 --> 00:43:22,104
are obligated to approach this in the exact same

599
00:43:22,104 --> 00:43:25,244
way the fact that we are not is illegal

600
00:43:25,244 --> 00:43:28,224
and it's unethical and it's immoral i know

601
00:43:28,224 --> 00:43:34,224
many people who I have spoken with and who I have read about who are now permanently

602
00:43:34,224 --> 00:43:39,944
disabled because they have undergone surgeries or had their puberty blocked

603
00:43:39,944 --> 00:43:46,104
for a number of years and who no longer can have children, who can no longer feed,

604
00:43:46,384 --> 00:43:50,944
breastfeed a baby, impregnate a woman.

605
00:43:52,428 --> 00:43:55,948
Live for more than a week at a time without taking another antibiotic treatment

606
00:43:55,948 --> 00:44:01,168
due to ongoing open wounds, urinate properly, defecate properly,

607
00:44:01,488 --> 00:44:03,788
none of which will ever be resolved.

608
00:44:04,328 --> 00:44:07,948
These are people who are either happy or not happy with their so-called transition.

609
00:44:08,048 --> 00:44:12,248
It doesn't matter, but many of them are unhappy and they are unable to receive

610
00:44:12,248 --> 00:44:16,608
medical attention and support to reverse these so-called gender-affirming care

611
00:44:16,608 --> 00:44:22,028
procedures because insurance companies are only offering and and only obligated to offer,

612
00:44:22,188 --> 00:44:30,748
the gender transitioning procedures, but not the return to normal or detransitioning procedures.

613
00:44:31,368 --> 00:44:37,588
This is horrible. And I think one action step that can be taken to reverse this

614
00:44:37,588 --> 00:44:41,808
horrific abuse of authority in medicine is to order,

615
00:44:41,988 --> 00:44:51,008
by law, all insurance companies to offer on an equal basis gender re- or de-transitioning

616
00:44:51,008 --> 00:44:55,088
treatments and surgeries just as they offer the transitioning ones.

617
00:44:55,088 --> 00:44:59,928
And this would be a financial incentive in order to avoid bankruptcy that would

618
00:44:59,928 --> 00:45:04,268
force all of these insurance companies to stop willy-nilly throwing out the

619
00:45:04,268 --> 00:45:08,908
coverage to have these puberty blockers and these mutilation surgeries performed

620
00:45:08,908 --> 00:45:11,828
as if they can somehow be changed and reversed a year later,

621
00:45:11,908 --> 00:45:13,388
which, of course, we all know they can't be.

622
00:45:13,388 --> 00:45:21,088
That's a practical legislative step that can be taken to stop this in the medical arena from expanding.

623
00:45:21,248 --> 00:45:25,508
And it expands every day because another state passes a law requiring insurance

624
00:45:25,508 --> 00:45:27,948
companies to cover these procedures,

625
00:45:28,188 --> 00:45:31,448
whether you're private or public, to have them offered to jailed inmates,

626
00:45:31,688 --> 00:45:36,708
for example, to offer them to Medi-Cal, to poor people. Pretty soon it'll be Medicare.

627
00:45:37,348 --> 00:45:42,628
All of our tax dollars are going into these surgeries under the guise of equal

628
00:45:42,628 --> 00:45:46,248
protection Well, it's not equal protection for children or for adults,

629
00:45:46,388 --> 00:45:49,008
and if we want to make it equal, we're going to have to offer the same thing

630
00:45:49,008 --> 00:45:51,048
in the opposite direction, and that'll put an end to it.

631
00:45:51,688 --> 00:45:53,488
Those are good points, doctor.

632
00:45:54,976 --> 00:45:59,396
What you're saying is, and I'm thinking from a standpoint of being a physician

633
00:45:59,396 --> 00:46:01,956
myself and what we have to deal with,

634
00:46:02,096 --> 00:46:10,236
there should be some policing of the professions within themselves.

635
00:46:10,656 --> 00:46:17,256
And I don't know why or how the AMA has allowed this or why other doctors are

636
00:46:17,256 --> 00:46:20,036
not speaking out against this. It is mutilation.

637
00:46:21,016 --> 00:46:24,176
You know i mean you look at certain medical procedures where

638
00:46:24,176 --> 00:46:27,636
you have neonatal care and they'll

639
00:46:27,636 --> 00:46:31,296
spend millions of dollars on saving a child's life and

640
00:46:31,296 --> 00:46:34,236
then on the other end they're aborting 4 000

641
00:46:34,236 --> 00:46:37,056
children a day and you really question the

642
00:46:37,056 --> 00:46:39,956
motives behind medicine i'm sorry

643
00:46:39,956 --> 00:46:43,256
i mean there's no other way you know to say it i i

644
00:46:43,256 --> 00:46:46,576
understand your point about you know having having this

645
00:46:46,576 --> 00:46:49,296
the insurance company to cover the other

646
00:46:49,296 --> 00:46:52,696
side of it i agree with you but i don't

647
00:46:52,696 --> 00:46:55,756
think they should cover any of it i i'm personally i

648
00:46:55,756 --> 00:46:58,756
don't i don't know how they they you know

649
00:46:58,756 --> 00:47:01,616
everything we do is always evidence-based and medically

650
00:47:01,616 --> 00:47:04,776
necessary so how is this evidence-based and

651
00:47:04,776 --> 00:47:07,476
medically necessary given with all the facts you have

652
00:47:07,476 --> 00:47:10,656
just put through you know today during

653
00:47:10,656 --> 00:47:13,536
this interview i mean everything you've said it could

654
00:47:13,536 --> 00:47:17,236
be used as a as a testimony to get

655
00:47:17,236 --> 00:47:21,936
away from these surgeries well you're correct and this is why i all i often

656
00:47:21,936 --> 00:47:27,616
argue that those who are opposed to transgender pediatric medical treatments

657
00:47:27,616 --> 00:47:31,876
are missing the point because they think it's about consent well children can't

658
00:47:31,876 --> 00:47:35,896
consent to this so they shouldn't be under the knife and have their puberty block.

659
00:47:36,036 --> 00:47:39,516
Well, of course that's true, but it's more than just a consent issue.

660
00:47:39,996 --> 00:47:47,356
As you pointed out correctly, doctors face an ethical obligation to first do no harm.

661
00:47:47,556 --> 00:47:53,456
There is no argument, none, no objective moral or ethical argument to support

662
00:47:53,456 --> 00:47:58,656
any of these mutilation procedures or, in the case of post-pubertal adults,

663
00:47:58,876 --> 00:48:02,476
hormone blocking agents. Absolutely none. They don't do any good.

664
00:48:02,856 --> 00:48:06,896
The only research that we have, and there's very little research actually,

665
00:48:07,076 --> 00:48:11,516
the strongest coming out of Denmark, which for longitudinal studies shows overwhelmingly

666
00:48:11,516 --> 00:48:14,656
that any adult, not child,

667
00:48:14,856 --> 00:48:19,016
I'm not talking about children now, adults who undergo these procedures have

668
00:48:19,016 --> 00:48:23,596
a higher rate of dissatisfaction, depression, and actual suicide.

669
00:48:24,396 --> 00:48:27,276
Contrary to what you hear in the media that these procedures save lives.

670
00:48:27,416 --> 00:48:32,196
They don't they endanger lives They actually have a higher rate of medical complications

671
00:48:32,196 --> 00:48:36,936
unwellness psychologically and suicide these procedures which are meant to to

672
00:48:36,936 --> 00:48:38,376
treat gender dysphoria and.

673
00:48:39,222 --> 00:48:42,282
Are the wrong approach because the gender dysphoria, as I said,

674
00:48:42,342 --> 00:48:45,622
is not a biological or medical problem. Right.

675
00:48:46,302 --> 00:48:50,902
Cutting off body parts doesn't actually solve the problem. It creates new ones.

676
00:48:51,022 --> 00:48:54,962
The real problem, which is, again, as I said earlier, we're displacing all of

677
00:48:54,962 --> 00:48:57,702
our issues into other zones. The real problem is psychological.

678
00:48:58,082 --> 00:49:01,522
Therefore, children with so-called gender dysphoria should be treated psychologically.

679
00:49:01,682 --> 00:49:03,022
They should be treated with therapy.

680
00:49:03,242 --> 00:49:06,402
They should not be treated with medications or surgery.

681
00:49:06,582 --> 00:49:09,662
And no adult should be allowed to undergo this procedure, either in

682
00:49:09,662 --> 00:49:12,482
the same way that a plastic surgeon would not

683
00:49:12,482 --> 00:49:15,462
amputate a limb in a 20 60 or

684
00:49:15,462 --> 00:49:18,522
80 year old person who comes in and says i identify as

685
00:49:18,522 --> 00:49:23,422
a one-armed man so cut my arm off any surgeon that did that would be put in

686
00:49:23,422 --> 00:49:29,902
jail put in prison lose his license why because this is not a biological problem

687
00:49:29,902 --> 00:49:33,562
this is a psychological one cutting off an arm does not solve that so therefore

688
00:49:33,562 --> 00:49:38,182
i think if If you want to be consistent in the same way that one is consistent about abortion,

689
00:49:38,342 --> 00:49:40,862
if abortion is wrong and if it's a baby after conception,

690
00:49:41,222 --> 00:49:45,502
whether you kill that baby at week one, 10, 20, 40, or after birth makes no

691
00:49:45,502 --> 00:49:46,842
difference. It's still a death, right?

692
00:49:47,242 --> 00:49:51,502
Correct. In the same way, in the same way, we need to be consistent in our arguments,

693
00:49:51,702 --> 00:49:55,662
morally and ethically and intellectually and evidence-based arguments,

694
00:49:55,822 --> 00:50:01,462
that none of this, none of this so-called gender-affirming care at any age is

695
00:50:01,462 --> 00:50:03,782
either medical, legal, or.

696
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Moral. None. Zero. It should be banned completely. And the reason why it hasn't

697
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,460
happened is that, as you pointed out,

698
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:17,440
all the medical organizations that manage licensing and that organize board

699
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,840
certifications and set community standards are corrupt.

700
00:50:21,140 --> 00:50:26,780
The AMA, four years ago, announced that it would support the removal of M and

701
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:30,080
F on birth certificates in place of X, meaning no sex.

702
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520
That's That's the AMA's public policy position.

703
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,280
It's not one crazy board member on the edge of the fringe. This is their formal policy.

704
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,300
The AACAP, American Academy of Children and Pediatrics, and Pediatrics,

705
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:49,600
Medicine, Psychiatry, their formal position is to support hormone blockers and

706
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,720
puberty blockers in children.

707
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:55,600
This is the board of psychiatry for children that is affirming this.

708
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,180
The american academy of pediatrics also

709
00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:02,580
on board with puberty blockers and children all three

710
00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:06,260
of the major organizations the ama the psychiatric pediatric

711
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:10,820
community and the pediatric pediatrician organizations they're all in favor

712
00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:16,120
of this stuff so if we can't find support from them i mean even rationality

713
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,640
much less support there's no reason to take anything that they say seriously,

714
00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:28,900
to allow them to speak on our behalf, or to use them as substantive evidence

715
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:32,400
to support any of these treatments. They need to be exposed.

716
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,840
They need to be completely ignored. They need to be criticized.

717
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:42,040
They have, in my eyes, entirely lost their authority in the same way that a

718
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,920
pastor that would advocate for suicide and abortion and pedophilia should be

719
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,160
exposed from his church. Well, these people should be expulsed from the community of medicine.

720
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:55,400
They're abhorrent, they're doing damage, and they don't represent any physician

721
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,780
that has a moral position on this whatsoever.

722
00:51:58,580 --> 00:52:03,260
Amen to that. it feels like a lot of these protocols and treatments especially

723
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:09,380
the surgery itself seems exploitive and experimental because you know you hear

724
00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:12,120
so many about well more than,

725
00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:15,640
one out of two it goes wrong you know so i

726
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,620
don't know how we've gotten this far with

727
00:52:18,620 --> 00:52:21,520
it when it's a little bit like the wild west with the surgeries

728
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,720
isn't it we'll follow the money there's a

729
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,680
a multi-pronged effort to push this ball over

730
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,380
the finish line with transgenderism and part of it

731
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:33,120
is is satanic and evil part of it

732
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,960
is political and part of it is financial and the

733
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,700
financial aspect is probably the one that's the most easily attacked and

734
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:43,920
that is that the amount of money that's being funneled into these clinics into

735
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,600
these therapy groups into these surgical suites is in the billions of dollars

736
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,260
now and it's mostly coming from state and federal government by misappropriation

737
00:52:54,260 --> 00:52:57,940
of tax dollars and also co-opting and coercing and blackmailing.

738
00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:02,309
By putting really a kind of figurative gun to the head of all the private insurance

739
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:11,589
companies to force all of the single payers to pay for these medications and these surgeries,

740
00:53:11,669 --> 00:53:14,949
not just once, but for the life of the patient, to create a lifelong patient.

741
00:53:15,749 --> 00:53:19,389
Kaiser, as you probably know, is being sued by multiple people,

742
00:53:19,509 --> 00:53:22,889
including one young girl, Chloe Cole,

743
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:26,349
who had her breasts cut off when she was, I think, 14 or 15 years old,

744
00:53:26,349 --> 00:53:30,489
and she's now suing them, good for her, after having received absolutely no

745
00:53:30,489 --> 00:53:32,769
therapy, no second opinion.

746
00:53:33,049 --> 00:53:35,969
I think she spent eight or nine minutes at Kaiser saying, I think I'm a boy,

747
00:53:36,049 --> 00:53:37,129
and then they just put her under the knife.

748
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:40,929
And they made, you know, 50, 60, 80, $100,000 on the surgeries,

749
00:53:40,989 --> 00:53:45,469
and now they're making money just by providing this so-called maintenance treatment.

750
00:53:45,749 --> 00:53:48,069
She can't get treatment to reverse it because they don't offer that.

751
00:53:48,689 --> 00:53:52,329
So I think one of the most effective points of attack on

752
00:53:52,329 --> 00:53:55,389
this economic angle is to put into

753
00:53:55,389 --> 00:54:02,249
place lawsuits just like chloe cole is doing to bankrupt any individual clinic

754
00:54:02,249 --> 00:54:07,229
or institution that sponsors and supports these treatments for children or for

755
00:54:07,229 --> 00:54:13,989
adults the first time that we see a multi-million dollar lawsuit one against some someplace like,

756
00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:16,229
say, Kaiser, that will be the end of this.

757
00:54:16,509 --> 00:54:21,969
Because no hospital, no clinic, no Boston University Children's Clinic,

758
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:25,949
no Yale Child Study Center that's raking in millions of dollars right now sacrificing

759
00:54:25,949 --> 00:54:28,849
children, just like Planned Parenthood is with their abortion clinics.

760
00:54:29,529 --> 00:54:34,149
Is going to continue to support this if their CEO sees the bottom line as being

761
00:54:34,149 --> 00:54:35,649
a red one rather than a black one.

762
00:54:36,209 --> 00:54:39,969
They want to be in the black, not in the red. Now, this is callous,

763
00:54:39,969 --> 00:54:43,109
of course, on their part. They're sacrificing lives for money.

764
00:54:43,369 --> 00:54:46,829
But that's the way that you fight people like that is you take their money away.

765
00:54:46,949 --> 00:54:48,069
You threaten them with bankruptcy.

766
00:54:48,569 --> 00:54:52,529
If there's no source, there's no clinic, there's no surgical suite,

767
00:54:52,629 --> 00:54:58,369
there's no center sponsored under the Harvard banner that sort of gives us impregnature

768
00:54:58,369 --> 00:55:03,249
of morality and academic worthiness, what's really just a mutilation clinic.

769
00:55:03,369 --> 00:55:07,629
If we lose that, if that's all taken away, who's going to perform these.

770
00:55:07,709 --> 00:55:11,429
You can't do back alley breast surgeries.

771
00:55:11,549 --> 00:55:15,909
They have to be done in an academic center or at a big organization like Kaiser.

772
00:55:16,129 --> 00:55:20,989
So sue them into oblivion, scare them into putting a stop to this, and then this will stop.

773
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:24,309
I think that's another action point that's very important in the legislative

774
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:27,229
arena because it overlaps with economics and finance.

775
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:31,809
There's millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars really at stake here.

776
00:55:31,909 --> 00:55:37,009
And if we attack that, Then I think we win in the area of the institutional

777
00:55:37,009 --> 00:55:38,589
and organizational level.

778
00:55:39,610 --> 00:55:42,890
I think another good thing that we have for us, and I just looked it up just

779
00:55:42,890 --> 00:55:49,510
to double check, but that just this month, the UK banned prescribing the puberty

780
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:51,230
blockers starting April 1st.

781
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:57,510
So that's their national health service, and they're no longer going to routinely

782
00:55:57,510 --> 00:56:05,610
to prescribe these medications, which is another voice from outside the US that can help us.

783
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:10,830
We are behind. mind. It's interesting how the environmental activist fringe

784
00:56:10,830 --> 00:56:14,050
has taken off in Europe far faster than they have in the US.

785
00:56:14,330 --> 00:56:20,090
But one thing that Europe and in England have ahead of us is their pushback

786
00:56:20,090 --> 00:56:26,230
against this advancement into the transgender surgery and puberty blockers movement.

787
00:56:26,970 --> 00:56:31,430
It's disappearing. After the closure of the Tavistock Clinic last year in London,

788
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:35,930
after massive class action lawsuits by hundreds and hundreds of young children

789
00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:41,070
and now young adults who had been mutilated. The government shut it down.

790
00:56:41,350 --> 00:56:45,710
And then, as you just noted, the process for a national ban on all of these

791
00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:49,450
treatments that expanded away from the Tavistock just to the National Health

792
00:56:49,450 --> 00:56:53,110
Institute, Health Center in England, is now laying down the law,

793
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:56,190
literally laying down the law and saying it's not legal anymore to do this.

794
00:56:56,790 --> 00:57:02,730
What's fascinating and sort of perplexing is that despite all of these legal

795
00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:07,950
actions being taken across Europe, we are not following suit.

796
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:11,570
You know, the Biden administration often points to Europe as being ahead of

797
00:57:11,570 --> 00:57:15,870
us in environment and removing electric or removing internal combustion cars

798
00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:17,830
and forcing windmills on us.

799
00:57:17,850 --> 00:57:20,930
And we need to follow their lead because we need to be at the forefront. forefront

800
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:24,450
but isn't it interesting how they're eerily silent when

801
00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:27,470
it comes to being at the forefront of reversing the transgender care

802
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:30,170
so-called care movement which is europe is way

803
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:36,470
ahead of us so i think that there's intention behind the silence and intention

804
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:41,590
behind the lack of widespread widespread dissemination of the news that you

805
00:57:41,590 --> 00:57:46,090
just cited because you don't see it on in the new york times or in cnn you see

806
00:57:46,090 --> 00:57:50,110
it only in small social media and some of the the non-legacy news organizations,

807
00:57:50,350 --> 00:57:54,530
because if word got out that the rest of the world is turning their back on

808
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:58,090
this, there might be more fissures and cracks in the U.S.

809
00:57:58,110 --> 00:58:02,190
That expand to push back against it like there has in Europe.

810
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:06,710
I agree. I agree. I think, and also, you could always go by the old adage, follow the money.

811
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:11,470
Absolutely. We know where the money is, and like we said before,

812
00:58:11,790 --> 00:58:16,190
the controversial stances that medicine and is made, you know,

813
00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:19,270
saving babies and killing babies in the same breath, you know,

814
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:20,870
and it's just, it's ridiculous.

815
00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:27,550
Dr. D, do you have any questions? No, I'm depleted of questions.

816
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:35,070
Well, I'm going to, so you guys were talking about a little bit of some of the

817
00:58:35,070 --> 00:58:39,110
subjects of the book, but you mentioned cognitive dissonance.

818
00:58:39,110 --> 00:58:43,570
And this is something I think that we like to talk about because it's funny.

819
00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:48,450
People don't see that the very thing they're supporting, you know,

820
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:52,290
they're not applying to other clear examples right in front of them.

821
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:57,810
And so I know you wrote the book, obviously, you know, and the idea is the United

822
00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:03,150
States of fear, how they use fear and then created this mass delusional phycosis.

823
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:05,570
I know this is one of Dr. Dozier's favorite subjects.

824
00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:09,890
So explain what you mean by that. Why did you write that book?

825
00:59:10,330 --> 00:59:16,690
I first wrote the book in 2021, early part of that year, to explain to people

826
00:59:16,690 --> 00:59:22,210
who were completely confused how we came to this state of everyone in the United

827
00:59:22,210 --> 00:59:24,530
States losing their mind at the same time.

828
00:59:25,930 --> 00:59:29,850
From one day to the next, people were wearing masks while running outside.

829
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:33,950
Where did this come from? How does this happen? It's not just one crazy wacko.

830
00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:38,070
This was happening in hundreds of millions of people all over the country.

831
00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:41,410
All of a sudden, and a lot of people couldn't explain it.

832
00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:46,110
So I wrote the book to explain the antecedents to that, how it started in the

833
00:59:46,110 --> 00:59:50,030
50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, all these various movements.

834
00:59:50,110 --> 00:59:54,490
The feminist movement plays a part in this, attacking masculinity and extolling

835
00:59:54,490 --> 00:59:59,410
the virtues of femininity without attacking equally the failings of femininity.

836
00:59:59,410 --> 01:00:01,130
Both sexes have their weaknesses.

837
01:00:01,850 --> 01:00:07,890
Laying the ground for the disappearance of the courageous man and the emergence of the coward.

838
01:00:08,110 --> 01:00:13,010
I remember seeing a family walking outside through the botanical garden at UCLA

839
01:00:13,010 --> 01:00:17,830
early on during this pandemic, and the wife, I assume it was the wife,

840
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:19,570
walking ahead of the two daughters.

841
01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:24,610
All of whom are wearing masks, guiding the way, while the man,

842
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:31,750
I assume was the husband, walking behind, sort of half beaten down, his head weary,

843
01:00:32,050 --> 01:00:36,950
hanging over with the mask on his face, with this look in his eyes like,

844
01:00:37,010 --> 01:00:41,150
I know this is ridiculous and insane, but I dare not speak, because if I do,

845
01:00:41,410 --> 01:00:44,850
my wife will beat me up, metaphorically speaking.

846
01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:48,090
He had no balls, basically and i saw

847
01:00:48,090 --> 01:00:52,190
this all over the united states women losing themselves

848
01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:55,090
emotionally impassioned which is

849
01:00:55,090 --> 01:00:58,090
understandable women are more emotional creatures but the

850
01:00:58,090 --> 01:01:02,510
men not standing up and saying whoa whoa whoa back off i've got this we're gonna

851
01:01:02,510 --> 01:01:06,890
be okay i run the family now we're in a crisis take care of the kids i'll deal

852
01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:11,490
with this no they let the woman run wild they let her her toxic femininity out

853
01:01:11,490 --> 01:01:17,850
of the box that happened decades ago that just didn't happen in 2020 This was one aspect of many,

854
01:01:17,950 --> 01:01:23,190
many, many cultural changes that have been going under the radar that just exploded in 2020.

855
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:28,910
Another, of course, is social media, the control of manipulation of information,

856
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:33,970
the centralization of power in the government, the disappearance of the family

857
01:01:33,970 --> 01:01:36,930
and being able to monitor what's happening in the school system.

858
01:01:37,290 --> 01:01:41,850
All of these things, they all just poof, they all took off. once the government,

859
01:01:41,970 --> 01:01:46,150
media, and corporations all came together and said, we're going to do this,

860
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:48,610
we're going to take over, and no one's going to stop us.

861
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:53,650
I wrote that book to explain that process. And after I wrote it,

862
01:01:53,690 --> 01:01:56,990
people started coming up to me and saying, but what do we do now?

863
01:01:57,490 --> 01:02:00,810
And that's why I wrote a second book the following year called Freedom from

864
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:04,990
Fear, a 12-step guide to personal and national recovery.

865
01:02:05,490 --> 01:02:09,570
And this is modeled after Jordan Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life and the

866
01:02:09,570 --> 01:02:11,730
AA model or the 12-step model of addiction.

867
01:02:11,970 --> 01:02:16,930
Because I do believe that once this delusional psychosis became manifest,

868
01:02:17,390 --> 01:02:21,610
it evolved into what I call a fear addiction, where people just instinctively

869
01:02:21,610 --> 01:02:23,350
reach for a mask, even if they're not afraid.

870
01:02:23,450 --> 01:02:26,810
Like they reach for a cigarette when they're nervous. Now they reach for a mask.

871
01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:31,270
Don't even think it's conscious anymore so i started to say this is the way

872
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:35,630
i want to see it now it's not so much a delusional psychosis anymore medically

873
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:36,990
it's more like a fear addiction,

874
01:02:37,690 --> 01:02:41,450
and the way that you treat an addiction is as we all know is the first step

875
01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:45,670
is to acknowledge that you have an addiction that's what they do in aa and i

876
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:50,350
went through 12 steps from 1 to 12 starting with acknowledging that you have

877
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:54,430
an addiction and 12 to becoming a mentor for others once you free Free From Your Fear,

878
01:02:54,510 --> 01:02:57,910
and everything in between to teach people, the individual,

879
01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:00,510
this book is towards the individual.

880
01:03:00,790 --> 01:03:04,850
It's not meant for the society at large, to the individual who has perhaps friends

881
01:03:04,850 --> 01:03:09,070
or family who are also addicted, to explain to them how to go by step-by-step

882
01:03:09,070 --> 01:03:10,390
overcoming this fear addiction.

883
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:13,850
How do you fight a beast as large as mass delusional psychosis?

884
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:16,490
Well, you don't. You attack it at the individual level.

885
01:03:16,830 --> 01:03:21,350
Instead of trying to transform society, waiting for the great messiah to come

886
01:03:21,350 --> 01:03:23,850
down and take take over the White House, which didn't work.

887
01:03:24,250 --> 01:03:28,690
We need to go about this from a ground-up approach. We need to attack this on an individual level.

888
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:30,450
Free your husband, your wife, your

889
01:03:30,450 --> 01:03:33,410
children, your neighbor first from fear addiction with freedom from fear.

890
01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:39,910
Reorganize your community to be a community of strength and fearlessness and promoting courage.

891
01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:45,570
And then from there, take on the school boards, take on the county government

892
01:03:45,570 --> 01:03:48,190
system, the state government, Go from the bottom up.

893
01:03:48,910 --> 01:03:54,450
Virginia showed us that election success a few years ago when all the people

894
01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:58,130
came together, both Democrats and Republicans, and they voted out the left-wing

895
01:03:58,130 --> 01:03:59,430
school board and they said, we're done.

896
01:04:00,050 --> 01:04:03,710
They took over. They didn't go to Washington. They went to their town hall forum.

897
01:04:03,930 --> 01:04:08,150
Mothers, fathers going to the school board meetings, speaking out against what's

898
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:11,070
happening to children, pornography in the schools. rules.

899
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:15,050
This is, I think, how we overcome our mass delusional psychosis.

900
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:17,510
We free ourselves and our friends and our loved ones from fear,

901
01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:21,010
and we proselytize that freedom from fear to everyone around us.

902
01:04:21,450 --> 01:04:26,150
Once we do that, we go up, up, up, up, up, and eventually we get to the top of the country.

903
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:29,850
I think we made a huge mistake four years ago in trying to go top down.

904
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:33,630
I think we have to go bottom up. I firmly believe that. I believe that more

905
01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:35,030
and more every single day.

906
01:04:36,379 --> 01:04:41,639
It was a great answer, doctor. I mean, I think fear will hold people captive, and it has.

907
01:04:41,859 --> 01:04:46,819
And we saw that culmination of that fear in the COVID crisis,

908
01:04:47,059 --> 01:04:49,499
and it's just perpetuated since.

909
01:04:49,759 --> 01:04:54,399
And now, when you were talking about that picture of that man walking behind

910
01:04:54,399 --> 01:04:59,019
his family and so forth, and there's also some science behind that too.

911
01:04:59,099 --> 01:05:04,359
I think that through the food supply and all the estrogens in the food and the low testosterone,

912
01:05:04,359 --> 01:05:07,059
testosterone that you know men are having you know they

913
01:05:07,059 --> 01:05:10,239
have lower t they have they have also have lower sperm

914
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:15,019
counts and all these other things we've been under attack for years and and

915
01:05:15,019 --> 01:05:21,659
and it right now at this point we do need to stand up and and fight back men

916
01:05:21,659 --> 01:05:26,219
have become biologically and socially feminized yes the last four decades and

917
01:05:26,219 --> 01:05:28,539
there's evidence for this as you said lower Lower sperm count,

918
01:05:28,759 --> 01:05:32,599
lower fertility rates, lower muscle mass,

919
01:05:32,879 --> 01:05:41,099
as well as socially, men not exercising their role as containers of hyper-emotionality,

920
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:42,319
particularly among women.

921
01:05:42,579 --> 01:05:46,719
And I don't mean controlling and aggressing and abusing. I mean containing.

922
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:48,579
Men's role is to contain.

923
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:53,319
Women's role is to receive and is to nurture. And this is what makes men feel

924
01:05:53,319 --> 01:06:01,259
valuable and wanted and desired. This is what makes women feel useful and attractive and desired.

925
01:06:01,499 --> 01:06:05,739
And both sexes have walked away from that. And we need to return to that model

926
01:06:05,739 --> 01:06:10,219
of real masculinity, physical courage, strength, honor, virtue.

927
01:06:10,499 --> 01:06:16,399
We don't have that anymore. We have the opposite. We have conciliation. We have diplomacy.

928
01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:21,979
We have compromise. We have lack of physical strength. We have...

929
01:06:22,903 --> 01:06:27,663
Saying nothing and doing nothing in the face of risk and violence on the part

930
01:06:27,663 --> 01:06:31,403
of other aggressors, of not speaking up to women when they step out,

931
01:06:31,443 --> 01:06:36,683
out of fear that they're going to be accused of misogyny and they're going to lose their job.

932
01:06:36,843 --> 01:06:42,303
And this just inculcates and exaggerates and exacerbates all of the worst aspects

933
01:06:42,303 --> 01:06:47,023
of the feminine, because there's good and bad in the feminine just as there is of the masculine.

934
01:06:47,483 --> 01:06:51,963
Men are, and appropriately so, told to control their their sexual aggression,

935
01:06:52,103 --> 01:06:53,643
and their physical violence.

936
01:06:53,823 --> 01:06:58,103
That is a masculine trait. And if they cross that line, they are appropriately

937
01:06:58,103 --> 01:06:59,403
called out, as they should be.

938
01:06:59,723 --> 01:07:06,763
But what about the cattiness of women? The borderline personality stabbing in

939
01:07:06,763 --> 01:07:11,103
the back attacks that girls do by publishing nasty pictures online of their

940
01:07:11,103 --> 01:07:14,083
friends and calling them out as fat and ruining their lives,

941
01:07:14,183 --> 01:07:15,703
pushing girls to suicide.

942
01:07:16,083 --> 01:07:19,863
We don't do anything about that. And this has to be men.

943
01:07:20,083 --> 01:07:23,943
Fathers have to stand up. Where are the fathers at these games,

944
01:07:24,143 --> 01:07:28,603
these football games, when a six foot two, 200 hulking pound guy comes in wearing

945
01:07:28,603 --> 01:07:33,383
a dress and goes and beats up on his daughter and puts her in a coma on the

946
01:07:33,383 --> 01:07:35,043
football field or the soccer field?

947
01:07:35,043 --> 01:07:38,183
Where are the dads the the mothers are

948
01:07:38,183 --> 01:07:41,343
crying into their into their their napkins and the

949
01:07:41,343 --> 01:07:44,623
men are just like looking around saying well i don't want to be called transphobic they

950
01:07:44,623 --> 01:07:48,943
should go out and pick up that boy and possum over the fence and if that absolutely

951
01:07:48,943 --> 01:07:52,823
that would end no more boys in skirts going out on the fields where are these

952
01:07:52,823 --> 01:07:58,503
men because they have all become cowards they're all eunuchs we need to bring

953
01:07:58,503 --> 01:08:01,563
back masculinity and that's not just for the sake It's for the sake of men,

954
01:08:01,663 --> 01:08:03,883
it's for the sake of women, and for their daughters, too.

955
01:08:04,923 --> 01:08:10,043
Well, it's a good point, and I think Dr. Dozer could speak to this better than I can,

956
01:08:10,203 --> 01:08:18,843
but I think a lot of that has to do with the spiritual aspect and the fact that

957
01:08:18,843 --> 01:08:20,503
without the spirituality,

958
01:08:21,003 --> 01:08:24,183
a man is not going to be a man, and I think it's an inside-out job.

959
01:08:24,763 --> 01:08:30,383
So, guys, last question for Alex here, and go ahead, man. Yeah, we're almost done.

960
01:08:30,483 --> 01:08:34,903
So as a final question, what can parents do to stop their children from being

961
01:08:34,903 --> 01:08:38,503
put on transition drugs or gender-affirming meds?

962
01:08:38,983 --> 01:08:43,443
This is a really, really difficult situation because parents are in a very legally

963
01:08:43,443 --> 01:08:45,243
weak position in a lot of states.

964
01:08:45,463 --> 01:08:51,323
And fathers, and it's, unfortunately, it seems to be relatively few,

965
01:08:51,383 --> 01:08:54,383
but the ones that do stand up to this tend to be mostly fathers and men.

966
01:08:54,383 --> 01:08:59,463
Men, women are disproportionately in charge of destroying and responsible for

967
01:08:59,463 --> 01:09:03,383
destroying the lives of our children, which is a horrible thing that I even

968
01:09:03,383 --> 01:09:04,783
have to say it, but it's true.

969
01:09:04,883 --> 01:09:07,923
And I always speak the truth, even if it makes people uncomfortable.

970
01:09:08,463 --> 01:09:11,563
It's mothers, it's teachers, it's therapists, it's surgeons,

971
01:09:11,763 --> 01:09:15,143
it's librarians, it's nurses, most of whom are women who are pushing this.

972
01:09:15,203 --> 01:09:16,823
It's not largely speaking men.

973
01:09:18,078 --> 01:09:23,678
Unfortunately, the courts are aligned against men, and they are aligned for

974
01:09:23,678 --> 01:09:25,538
women, and they are aligned against children.

975
01:09:25,658 --> 01:09:29,778
They are aligned towards removing the rights of parents trying to protect their

976
01:09:29,778 --> 01:09:32,258
kids from this transgender ideology, whether male or female,

977
01:09:32,478 --> 01:09:34,178
whether mothers or fathers.

978
01:09:34,178 --> 01:09:37,098
And if it's happening if you

979
01:09:37,098 --> 01:09:39,918
see it moving forward there's often very little you

980
01:09:39,918 --> 01:09:44,398
can do other than physically relocate yourself to a more protective

981
01:09:44,398 --> 01:09:48,478
state or a more protective county because you will have your child physically

982
01:09:48,478 --> 01:09:52,238
removed from you you will be banned from being able to see your child you will

983
01:09:52,238 --> 01:09:55,718
have your child put into social services if you don't affirm the name affirm

984
01:09:55,718 --> 01:10:00,738
the dress affirm the lifestyle it's very very scary right now and that's why

985
01:10:00,738 --> 01:10:02,918
i think the preemptive strike is the best one.

986
01:10:03,058 --> 01:10:05,598
Take your kids out of school, homeschool them.

987
01:10:06,058 --> 01:10:10,298
Remove the cell phones. Make sure you know who your kids are playing with,

988
01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:12,978
what parents and other children they're associating with.

989
01:10:13,138 --> 01:10:17,498
Form groups of like-minded people. The like-minded are stronger than one sole

990
01:10:17,498 --> 01:10:20,778
person living in a silo. You can't live that way forever.

991
01:10:20,938 --> 01:10:23,058
Your kids are going to grow up. They're going to get older. They're going to get independent.

992
01:10:23,578 --> 01:10:27,358
You have to protect them within that community knowing that they're still going

993
01:10:27,358 --> 01:10:29,938
to get exposed, but at least you can limit the exposure.

994
01:10:30,778 --> 01:10:35,398
If in fact your child is already exposed and is already secretly going through

995
01:10:35,398 --> 01:10:40,818
a transition or looking for drugs, looking for surgery, you're behind the eight ball.

996
01:10:41,278 --> 01:10:44,898
It's going to be very difficult for you to succeed because the moment you stand

997
01:10:44,898 --> 01:10:48,558
up and fight, the system is going to fight twice as hard against you.

998
01:10:48,618 --> 01:10:54,458
The therapist, the teachers, the doctors, all the people that are involved are

999
01:10:54,458 --> 01:10:57,638
going to start filing lawsuits against you and you may end up losing your child.

1000
01:10:57,638 --> 01:11:02,938
Your only option may be what a family in Oregon did a couple of years ago,

1001
01:11:03,118 --> 01:11:07,418
an Indian immigrant family that noticed that their 14-year-old daughter was

1002
01:11:07,418 --> 01:11:13,018
secretly being groomed by a woman teacher at the school.

1003
01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:17,910
Change her name, to change her dress, to become a boy. And when they discovered

1004
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:19,210
it, they complained to the principal.

1005
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:22,650
The principal said, well, this is totally on board with what I believe and what

1006
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:23,930
the school supports in policy.

1007
01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:28,990
They didn't even bother to try to fight beyond that. They took their daughter and their son.

1008
01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:33,950
They went south across the border. They found a safe house for a couple of weeks,

1009
01:11:34,010 --> 01:11:39,230
planned to return to India, and they moved back to India and had the girl and the the sun,

1010
01:11:39,370 --> 01:11:45,030
continue to grow up in the community from which they left to find a better life in the U.S.

1011
01:11:45,090 --> 01:11:49,470
They de-immigrated like de-transitioners in order to de-transition their daughter

1012
01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:54,130
because they knew that that was the only way that they could succeed as parents.

1013
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:59,010
This is really sad. This is an immigrant family coming for a better life and

1014
01:11:59,010 --> 01:12:04,030
finding that they have more freedom back in India than they do in the United States.

1015
01:12:04,230 --> 01:12:07,190
If that's not an indictment of how far we've fallen, I don't know what is.

1016
01:12:07,410 --> 01:12:11,670
So you may be forced to leave your country, to leave the state if it gets that bad.

1017
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:16,910
And I would say as a parent, your first and only obligation is to save your

1018
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:19,910
child, not your home, not your job, not your reputation.

1019
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:25,710
If you fail, if you lose your child, you have failed as a parent, period.

1020
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:29,230
That has to be your primary consideration. Yeah.

1021
01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:32,610
So as we end up here, thanks so much, Mark.

1022
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:35,090
We're so happy you're going to be able to come to the conference.

1023
01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:39,210
Delighted. Looking forward to it. We're so excited to get your testimony out.

1024
01:12:39,390 --> 01:12:43,270
And now Jordan Peterson has a little competition.

1025
01:12:45,450 --> 01:12:49,130
I'd love to interview Jordan on our podcast because I agree with so many of

1026
01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:52,310
the tenants that he ascribes to. And he's such an inspiration.

1027
01:12:52,730 --> 01:12:56,130
Yeah. And I quote him frequently because I try not to steal ideas.

1028
01:12:56,330 --> 01:13:00,890
I try to replicate and always give credit. And a lot of my ideas do come from him.

1029
01:13:01,330 --> 01:13:05,010
Well, we're going to pray us out. Dr. Dozier, can you pray us out?

1030
01:13:05,070 --> 01:13:08,110
But before we do that, is there anything we can pray for you about?

1031
01:13:09,070 --> 01:13:11,510
Oh, my. That's a surprise question.

1032
01:13:13,136 --> 01:13:15,776
Your wife would be able to answer it very quickly. Yeah, exactly.

1033
01:13:18,356 --> 01:13:21,956
The last thing I think about is my own well-being, which is probably a failing

1034
01:13:21,956 --> 01:13:26,176
on my part. I'm always thinking about other people. That's kind of the character, sir.

1035
01:13:27,296 --> 01:13:30,456
You don't even mean it in a virtuous way. It's just character fluff. off.

1036
01:13:32,036 --> 01:13:36,576
I am so blessed right now to be in good health, to have wonderful friends,

1037
01:13:36,756 --> 01:13:41,096
excellent colleagues, to be able to continue to work and speak and write and

1038
01:13:41,096 --> 01:13:43,116
travel, to manage my podcast,

1039
01:13:43,416 --> 01:13:48,696
to continue to write on Substack, my Dissident MD Substack, and to reach so many people.

1040
01:13:49,056 --> 01:13:55,656
It's difficult for me to find something significant about which to complain.

1041
01:13:56,796 --> 01:14:01,176
So by the way, how can we reach you, by the way? If you don't remember anything

1042
01:14:01,176 --> 01:14:03,556
else, remember DissidentMD.

1043
01:14:04,656 --> 01:14:10,516
DissidentMD is my website. DissidentMD is my podcast, sorry, my substack.

1044
01:14:10,976 --> 01:14:14,256
It's where you find a link to the podcast, which is called Informed Dissent.

1045
01:14:14,776 --> 01:14:18,516
And DissidentMD is where you can get links to my book, my writing,

1046
01:14:18,656 --> 01:14:22,376
basically soon to be my travel schedule. I'm going to put that up soon.

1047
01:14:23,836 --> 01:14:29,196
So I think that the best place to look for all things Mark McDonald is just

1048
01:14:29,196 --> 01:14:33,736
to, other than Googling my name, is just to go to DissidentMD.com and you'll

1049
01:14:33,736 --> 01:14:34,816
find everything you need there.

1050
01:14:35,516 --> 01:14:39,616
Dr. Dozier, go ahead. Father, we thank you. We bless you. We honor you.

1051
01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:40,916
Your goodness and your mercy.

1052
01:14:41,016 --> 01:14:45,516
We thank you for gracing us to be on the air at this time.

1053
01:14:45,596 --> 01:14:48,816
And I pray to those who will be hearing this podcast, I pray that it will be

1054
01:14:48,816 --> 01:14:51,696
informed, enlightened, and impacted.

1055
01:14:52,516 --> 01:14:56,056
And I do pray for Dr. McDonald. I pray that you will continue to give him wisdom

1056
01:14:56,056 --> 01:14:59,536
and knowledge and understanding and guidance and even protection,

1057
01:14:59,796 --> 01:15:02,716
Lord, as he steps forth courageously.

1058
01:15:04,053 --> 01:15:10,533
Informing and leading away, Lord God, being lead in charge in helping parents

1059
01:15:10,533 --> 01:15:12,873
to see that there is a way of escape.

1060
01:15:13,313 --> 01:15:17,273
And even as we leave this podcast today, I just pray for everyone that's on

1061
01:15:17,273 --> 01:15:22,753
this podcast today and that you will give us all your mercy and your grace and

1062
01:15:22,753 --> 01:15:26,093
your power to continue on in Jesus' name. Amen.

1063
01:15:26,633 --> 01:15:33,513
Amen. Amen. Thanks again, Dr. Mark, for helping us to see how and why we can

1064
01:15:33,513 --> 01:15:38,913
fight for our children and helping us to maybe help us to believe that we're real.

1065
01:15:39,473 --> 01:15:44,233
Hey folks, this is Dr. Kevin Cruz giving you another pump because guess what?

1066
01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:47,353
The supernatural junkies are on Rumble.

1067
01:15:47,513 --> 01:15:52,873
All you have to do is go to Rumble, go to search, and when you search for channels,

1068
01:15:53,093 --> 01:15:57,853
you look for supernatural junkies and all of our stuff is going to start popping

1069
01:15:57,853 --> 01:16:00,613
up. It's great because you're going to be able to see the links.

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You'll get to see exactly why we are saying what we're saying.

1071
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But most importantly, this is a great way to share with your family and your

1072
01:16:08,453 --> 01:16:16,733
friends exactly why we are living in prophetic times and why we cannot give up access to our bodies.

1073
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Hey folks, it's Dr. Dennis from Supernatural Junkies. I just want to talk to

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01:16:22,153 --> 01:16:23,433
you today about protandum.

1075
01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:27,373
I've been taking protandum for a few years. and you know what?

1076
01:16:27,613 --> 01:16:31,973
I feel a difference. I am younger than my age. At least I think I am.

1077
01:16:32,373 --> 01:16:38,973
Anyway, protandim is a strong antioxidant producer in your body because what

1078
01:16:38,973 --> 01:16:43,913
it does, it causes your body to increase its glutathione production.

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And glutathione, folks, is the strongest antioxidant your body has.

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So if you want to keep strong antioxidants in your body and be a healthier you,

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I suggest you use ProTandem.

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Music.