Sex Change Regret With Walt Heyer

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I'm right next to you, baby. Okay, good. Wait, is that you? And also,

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we have a very special guest today.

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We have American author, activist, and speaker, Walt Heyer.

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He is here to talk to us today about his experience with the transgender issue.

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So, welcome today, Walt. We're so excited to have you. Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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This is a great opportunity to share with everybody and get some feedback and

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talk about this important issue that's just pounding our country today. Yeah, it's everywhere.

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So we're glad to be able to talk to someone who has actual experience.

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Can you tell us a little bit about your experience?

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Yeah. You know, my journey started in 1944, cross-dressing, grandma helping

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me, cross-dressing, affirming me, telling me how cute I was.

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You know, I grew up at a time when this wasn't even, there were no words attached to it.

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Nobody, you know, there was nothing. and just grandma drank a little bit and

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grandma made dresses and decided to make me a dress when I was a four-year-old kid.

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My mom did not, I was an unwanted child.

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She already had one child. She was 20 years old. I came along and she was unhappy

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about having another child.

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And she actually was physically abusing me at age three, which she admitted

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just before she died that she thought thought she had actually killed me at

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one time. She was so abusive to me.

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And I had some recollection that something had happened to me.

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So I had a mom who had struggled with her own life story and a young woman that

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abused me and had a grandma that cross-dressed me.

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And then when my dad found out that his mother-in-law was cross-dressing me,

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he began to discipline me real heavily with a hardwood floor plank. I think it was his way of.

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Trying to make me into a man. He was scared, didn't have anything.

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We're talking 1946 at this time.

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And then as a result of grandma making me the purple dress, my dad's adopted

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brother, who was a teenager, began to sexually molest me.

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So I had the physical abuse by mom and dad when I was young,

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cross-dressed by grandma and sexually abused.

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All those things happened before I was 10 years old.

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And so I did my best with my coping mechanisms that I had, but my resilience

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obviously was low. I didn't know.

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Kids don't know. I mean, this idea that a kid knows what their gender is, is absolute nonsense.

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The only thing you know is you're being compliant to what's going on around

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you. You don't know what's real and what isn't real.

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And people don't talk much about the The great word consequences,

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I do, because we need to understand that when you cross-dress a young boy like

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my grandma did, that you're inflicting child abuse, psychological,

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emotional, and it turned out in my case to be sexual child abuse because of the consequences.

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So we're abusing children by telling them that they can change genders.

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Nobody in world history has ever changed their gender. They've changed their persona.

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They can change their identity. They can change their appearance,

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but they can't change anything biologically.

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That's kind of what I come from. And I started identifying at age 13 as Crystal

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West quietly because there wasn't any other ones around, but it was just my

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way of expressing things.

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And then there was a big headline about Christine Jorgensen,

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who was a soldier that underwent the surgery and said, you know,

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called it a trans sexual, I think, at the time in the news. And I thought, well, that must be me.

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I had no other identifier, had no other words or language or any way to.

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So I thought that must be me.

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And so I began to attach to that. I got, I had girlfriends in school.

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I played football. I ran track.

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I was a small kid. I'm still kind of small. And so I eventually got married,

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had children, struggled with my identity, cross-dressed throughout that time.

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I became an associate design engineer on the Apollo space missions.

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I helped develop the Acura division for Honda. Honda.

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But I was still struggling with the childhood abuse that I never dealt with.

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And I struggled then. I was trying to cope with alcohol and eventually cocaine and other drugs.

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While I was very successful having two parking places, the executive position

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at Honda, my life began to collapse around the fact that I'd never dealt with

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being physically, emotionally, and sexually abused.

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There was never any treatment for that.

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But I went to a gender therapist who actually wrote the gender therapist.

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My therapist wrote the original standards of care that morphed into WPATH. His name is Dr.

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Paul Walker. He was in Union Street, San Francisco. He was a world leader in this.

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Juggernaut of transgender stuff. And so I went to his office.

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He diagnosed me with gender dysphoria before anybody was diagnosing anybody

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with gender dysphoria and said, you need hormones and surgery.

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And I was married and had kids. And I go, that's kind of radical.

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He said, well, this is the only way you can do this. Here's a prescription for hormones.

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I started on hormones and that was in In 1981,

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1983, I went to surgery, lived and identified as a female, and then went to

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UC Santa Cruz, studied psychology, and realized as I started studying psychology.

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Hey, these people have new words to me, underlying comorbidities. Well, what are those?

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And I started reading case studies that were coming out about kids.

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The first one I read was about a boy who started identifying as a girl because

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his mother passed away. way.

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And they called it separation anxiety. He was trying to take on his mom's identity

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to keep his mother alive.

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That was the way. And I thought, well, that just kind of seared into my memory.

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Well, this is much different than just a gender issue. It goes much deeper than gender.

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So eventually, I got my life back in 1990 through Jesus Christ and opened a

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website called Well, it's sexchangeregret.com.

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And we have helped thousands of people get their life back.

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And that's what we've been doing. It's a charity. We've never charged anybody a dime.

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We funded it with my 501k and my retirement money.

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You know, I'll be 84 this year, so I'm still young.

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And so we've done that as a charity to help people. And I've done,

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you know, written seven books.

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I'm writing two more this year. Just finished crafting a movie called Who Am I?

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That's what we're crowdfunding for. Now we have the website.

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And so I'm working as a senior fellow for Family Research Council in D.C.

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On a book called God's Design of Man and Woman.

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And then I'm writing my own book with my wife called After Gender is Jesus.

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Wow. So it sounds like you've taken this retirement thing real seriously and

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just back taking it easy, huh?

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Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I looked in the Bible. It says not retirement

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doesn't show up in there. So I'm not going for it. That's right.

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That's kind of my my story. I continue to work with people every single day.

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Parents, families and individuals that contact me just like I had one that I've been working with.

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Some of these people I'll end up working with for two or three years as they

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go through the process to get their life back.

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Wow. That's pretty much my story. So I have to, I have to tell on you, Walt.

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So, uh, one of the emails I sent him was about doing a little video and you

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can see that on our social media now, but long story short,

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he said he was on a little boat out in the Caribbean and I was like,

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well, I think that would be a really interesting video.

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And then he says, no, I'm just weeding my garden. So he has,

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he has some aspirations to get on a boat and go to the Caribbean.

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And so in your retirement, do you get to do stuff like that or no?

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Yeah, I still cut the grass, empty the trash, do the dishes.

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I'm just just a normal guy, you know, with a I got a beautiful,

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young, smoking, hot wife that takes care of me.

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Doc does as well. Yeah. Yeah. I call her my smoking and hot trophy wife.

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What can I tell you? Oh, that's sweet.

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Well, you brought up you brought up some interesting points in your story there.

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I mean, you're saying that in 1981, you were diagnosed with gender dysphoria

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and the treatment was hormones and surgery back then?

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No, they were doing it before then. They actually started in the teens,

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before 1920, they were doing this. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

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So there's the long history, you know.

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They started then, and Harry Benjamin opened a clinic in the 40s,

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and it was primarily based on people believing that they were all homosexuals

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that went through this. That was kind of the primary thing.

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And Harry Benjamin actually coined the term, he claims to have coined the term

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gender dysphoria, I think in 1973, the DSM had it as gender identity disorder,

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but nobody's ever played this game straight.

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And, you know, Harry Benjamin's clinic that he had in New York,

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he had a homosexual activist for transgender care that was an endocrinologist

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at his clinic that worked there for six years administering hormone therapy to over 500 people,

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men who got hormones and had surgery and transitioned. And Dr.

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Charles L. Illenfeld was the endocrinologist, and he came out to Tappan,

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New York in 1979, and he was telling the therapists and stuff,

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warning people about using hormones in 1979. 1979, Dr.

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Ehlenfeld said, I've been talking to the people that I've been administering

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hormone therapy to, and I've seen too much unhappiness and too many of them end in suicides. 1979.

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And he said, they actually are hiding underlying causes and we need to go deeper

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and find out what their issues are.

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In fact, he said, most of the people who come in won't disclose what their deeper

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issues are because then they're afraid that they won't get the the hormone therapy,

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and the surgery that they think they need.

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So one of the things that I've done is, you know, the people who contact me,

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they write me and say, you know, I'm transgender, I transitioned,

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and I have gender dysphoria.

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And I actually love doing this. And I write them back, say, well,

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you're not a transgender, you've never transitioned.

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I doubt that you ever had gender dysphoria, but if you want to work with me, we'll figure it out.

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And so what I find is that over 90%, nearly 95% of the people,

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the thousands of people that I've worked with that have contacted me,

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and these are the only ones I can address because I can only talk about the

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people I've worked with and contacted.

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So inside that group, over 90 to 95 percent of them are heterosexual men who

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had a traumatic childhood or were addicted to pornography or some other underlying cause.

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I mean, everything from body dysmorphia to dissociative disorders to bipolar disorder to PTSD.

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PTSD, you can go down the checklist, and most of them were cross-dressed by

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somebody at an early age, whether it was their brother or sister or next-door neighbor, parent.

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So there's sort of a pattern to this, and a high percentage of them were either

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fondled, touched, or really sexually abused or even raped, but not homosexual. I was never homosexual.

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I had people want me to come and speak at these conferences about homosexuality,

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and I said, listen, I don't even understand those people.

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I can't talk about it. So we're talking about heterosexual men.

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Men, a vast majority of them are struggling with autogynephilia and transvestite

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fetish disorder, or they're just cross-dressers.

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So when I have an opportunity to work with a wife or the individual who's been

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struggling with this for many years, and we get into talking to them,

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and what they disclose is that they get sexually aroused by wearing women's clothing.

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And so I always tell them, I said, a real woman does not become sexually aroused

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by getting dressed in the morning. So you need to understand you've got a problem. And so.

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Good boy. I can accept that. Yeah.

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So, you know, once we sort of break open this can of worms that they've been

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fed, and that's really why I have so many people over the years that have contacted

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me, why I've been in so many documentary films.

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I've been, you know, I've done work in Santiago, Chile, Hong Kong, Spain, all over.

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I mean, our books are published all over the world in different languages,

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and that's why I'm sort of excited about doing the movie, Who Am I, that we just finished.

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I'm co-author of the movie, screenwriter.

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And so, you know, the fact of the matter is not one person needs hormones,

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not one person needs any gender surgery.

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What we need to do is look at their underlying comorbid distress and deal with what that is.

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And I've found that if I can identify, help them identify what caused them,

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this is the word that I always use, tell me what caused you to not like who

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you are, and we can work together.

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and if that line doesn't work for them, then I jump on this one.

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I go, well, why do you want to erase who you are and try to become someone that

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you can never be? Tell me how that works.

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And so, and sometimes I use a little shock therapy and ask him if it's a guy

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trying to identify as a female, I'll just ask him straight out,

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why do you want to become your mother?

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And so I use some pretty provocative things to sort of jog their brain about what they're doing.

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Well, the fact of the matter is most of them, they deplore both of them,

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you know, so that sort of shocks them into going, I got to think about this.

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on how they got there. and, you know, I know that it took me 50 years.

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The first 50 years of my life was totally destroyed.

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Even though I had great success, I was married, but my family was destroyed by this because Dr.

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Paul Walker said you have gender dysphoria. But I had told him about being sexually

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abused and, you know, that's called trauma.

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It's called ACEs, Adverse Childhood Experiences. And that accounts for probably

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99.9% of the people that I work with, they experienced something traumatic during their childhood.

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And I've worked with, it's kind of funny, you know, somebody will write me about their son.

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Well, my son's identifying as a female. He's 14.

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I said, well, tell me about his childhood. Oh, fine.

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He didn't have anything happen. It was, you know, perfectly normal.

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We're a Christian family. We're this and that. And I go, okay,

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tell me more about his childhood.

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Well, he had cancer and he had to cut his leg off and he hadn't been able to

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go to school and he hasn't socialized because he's been sick. Oh, that's not trauma?

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Hello, let's wake up, folks. This is a traumatic childhood.

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Or one case where the child saw the father murdering the mother.

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Trauma. So if I can get people talking,

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we find out sometimes it's sort of a benign thing where the child is living

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in a home where mom and dad are just violent against each other and that individual

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feels unsafe in the home. They're never touched.

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They were never hurt, but they're traumatized by the environment they live in. That is trauma.

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It's an adverse childhood experience and it requires treatment,

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not hormones, not surgery.

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And so I'm very passionate about this because I've seen the results when I tell

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them you're not transgender, you're not going to transition and you don't have have gender dysphoria.

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That whole gender dysphoria thing is a big crock.

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They admitted that they came up with a diagnosis in 2013 of gender dysphoria,

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which used to be gender identity disorder,

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not because it was a better way to approach it, but because they didn't want

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people to have the stigma of having a disorder.

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So let's just take the word disorder out. They still have a disorder.

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It's now we aren't identifying what the disorder is.

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We're just skipping over it. The fact of the the matter is the only way that

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you can get hormones and surgery is if you're diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

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Walt, I want to go back. And to me, what you just outlined is astonishing.

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First of all, these are the questions that we all need to learn how to ask people

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so that we can reach the people that can be reached.

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When I think about what you said earlier about how you were having these issues

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and you were having these struggles, and all it took was for you to go to a

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doctor, and here you are, you're confused, and you're looking for a solution.

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And his solution was to go on the hormones and to get surgery.

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And for you, it seems like this is my doctor finally telling me what's wrong

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with me, so this is what I need to do.

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And you it sounds like you just did it based on that

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alone yeah i mean because you know there was

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no walt hire out there's some gray-haired old fart running around

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going don't do this the bridge is out i'm out

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here now you can hear me and the way i have people writing

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me saying i'm not going to do it because i heard you on a video and so that's

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that's so important for us to understand that there wasn't anybody any negative

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feedback on this in 1981 so because when you were going Going through the height

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of this and you realize like you had a diagnosis then,

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what would have, you know, I'm thinking of somebody that's going through the

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same thing and sort of on the edge of I might get surgery and they're not really sure.

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What would have given you pause?

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What could somebody have said to you that might have given you pause?

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Well, oh, yeah, that's a good one. Thank you. That's a t-ball right there. Sure.

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You know, a good therapist who really wants to help somebody who listened to

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somebody who talked about being physically, emotionally, and psychologically

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abused would say, wow, you suffered childhood trauma. You need a trauma therapist.

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You know, hormones and surgery are not going to do you any good at all.

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In fact, they're only going to make things much worse for you.

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And so we're not going to prescribe hormones for you.

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We're not going to suggest you have of surgery, but we do think you need to

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go and have some deep trauma therapy with a trauma therapist,

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and it may take years. That would have been appropriate.

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The problem is that the gender therapists have this big, huge toolbox of all

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kinds of disorders that they can apply, but they only pick one out of the box, gender dysphoria.

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They will diagnose a rock with gender dysphoria.

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That's the only thing they know how to do. It's pathetic, and it's medical malpractice.

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Agreed. So also, Walt, so we all, you know, you don't have to go into any detail

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that you're not comfortable with, but what was it like with going on the hormones?

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What was the surgeries like? How did that go?

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Well, I think, you know, one of the things is that the hormones,

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you know, they're addictive.

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They're anabolic steroids.

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They're not good for you. They cause all kinds of problems, blood clotting.

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I mean, the list of things that happen to both men and women are dangerous,

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and we shouldn't be giving them to children or adults.

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So the first thing that happens when a guy goes on estrogen, he calms down.

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It's almost like being on some kind of nice medication. There's this whole thing

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going on. So you think things are changing.

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It's a false notion because it's medical intervention that's making you feel this way.

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So you think that this is the answer. here. This is the way you go.

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Again, no voice is saying, nobody's stopping you. Nobody's saying when you're

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getting the hormones, this is dangerous.

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They're not saying that. They're not saying that you're going to regret it.

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They're not saying this is a bad thing.

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And that they're not telling you that you're 18, 19 times more likely to commit

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suicide after taking hormones and having surgery, which I did attempt suicide

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within about a month and a a half after having the surgery.

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And so they don't tell you any of this. And so that's why I'm here.

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I want people to hear it. And so you go through this and you keep waiting for this thing to work.

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And I went back to Stanford University to a gender specialist there and said,

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you know, I've been doing this now for like five or six years.

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How long does it take for this to work? and the person said,

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and the person says, oh, you just need to give it more time.

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And I said, really, how much time does it say it's going to take?

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And they didn't have an answer. So fact of the matter is, this is probably one

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of the, and I've said this so many times, this is the biggest medical scam of my lifetime.

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You know, the fact of the matter is not one person has ever changed biologically

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their gender or sex, period.

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This is all cosmetic. It's all phony baloney plastic bananas,

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and people are buying into it, and it's.

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And we're actually helping people come out of it. And so the truth will set you free.

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I mean, the answer to this whole thing is in Genesis, man and woman, that's it.

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And we're, you know, this whole terminology they use, and I hate it when I see

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this on a forum, what gender were you assigned at birth?

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Hello, come here. We come over here in this forum. It says gender, that's never happened.

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Nobody's gender is assigned at birth. It's determined at conception.

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So take this off of the forum. I'm not going to fill it out. This is nonsense.

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And they say gender assigned at birth so they can unassign it and give you another

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one. That's the only reason they use it. Yeah.

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So I'm curious because you went through the surgery and we hear a long list

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of complications that these surgeries have.

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Did the surgeons adequately prepare you for your aftercare or any of the complications

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that you might get or that you did get? No, of course not. Okay.

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Of course not. 50% of the people will have some complications of some kind.

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Some of them aren't serious.

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You know, hormones in a man, I started on hormones and I had to have my gallbladder

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taken out, causes gallbladder damage.

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And that's just factual information.

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And I didn't even realize it until many years later when they were doing the

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research, estrogen in men causes gallbladders to fail.

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There's all kinds of things that happen. Urinary tract infections. I could go down the list.

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In the book I'm writing, I'm actually detailing them in my office right now.

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And there's numerous different things that happen.

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A lot of them have to do with urinary.

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People can't control their urine. It just flows. They have to wear diapers. Wow.

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Go down. There you go. Wow.

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Good morning again. I first heard you talk about this some years ago,

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and I thought it was very informative and very enlightening.

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And there are a couple of things that you said, and from some of my counseling

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and even some of my experiences, I may relate with you.

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Even though I've always been all man, and when I've always been all man, I have seen some things.

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In my counseling, there have been children who are very young,

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probably as young as you are, with their parents parents were wise enough to

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bring them in and even girls.

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And I would notice how they would seem to be far more mature than their age.

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And usually that was due to the fact that there had been some type of molestation.

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And I believe that does bother the mind. There'd been some type of molestation with them.

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Now, I remember when I was nine years old, nothing happened.

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And this is what I'm bringing about the part of old man.

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We used to go swimming. We had this place and we'd go swimming.

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And one of my cousins got to grab me from behind.

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And I hollered and kicked and broke, and then I swam to the edge and got out.

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The cousin never tried that again.

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But in college, I remember I had a partial scholarship in Concert Chorus in 1976, 1977.

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And even though I was 18, I looked very young, just like you do right now. But I looked very young.

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And even in the school, the professors, the directors, and some of the upper

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class students, they were, I'm going to go ahead and say they were homosexuals.

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And then we go transsexual.

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Now you've really gone to another deviant behavior.

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But they were homosexuals and they did attempt practicing grooming.

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I had a I had a strong disdain at that time for them.

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And I really ended up because there was so much pressure and asking me,

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when am I going to let them have or setting up? and we need to keep you after

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and work on your tenor. And then there's a couple of them in there.

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So eventually I gave up scholarship.

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I walked away from it. Because when I did try to report it, one of the individuals

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that I reported it to, one of the higher ups in the university, the college, he said,

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All of a sudden, they no longer wanted any dealings. So this is heavy in the

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colleges with a lot of the even though in our country at 18,

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you're considered an adult.

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This happens even with some of the young, young kids who are somewhat vulnerable,

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who are going off to college.

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OK. And then sometimes these kids come home and their parents don't know them. I had this day.

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And to be honest with you, I think that that helped me. Well,

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I know that helped me because in those days, I'll say it, we refer to them as punks.

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And when I said to one, I said, they're punks. And he asked me,

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he said, why do you call them punks?

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I said, because any man who likes a man, and he didn't want to deal with me anymore.

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Now, being in ministry or what have you, I realized our responsibility and love

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of God is to try and to assist these people in overcoming by receiving Christ

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and the power of the Holy Spirit working within them.

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And I believe any other method, any other method that we come up with, it falls short.

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And then we can have a solution for one problem, but we make everything else

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worse. And we say, just accept who you are.

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If I'm going to accept who I am, I am going to accept that I'm either male or female.

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And I was born as God made me to be. And just to end it with a little joke.

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Now, I'm one, when I was born in 1958, I didn't have a first name on my birth

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certificate. I just had my last name, Dozier.

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And it wasn't because they didn't know whether I was a male or female,

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but my mom and dad couldn't decide what they wanted to name me.

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And so a week later, you see, and that's when they had like a carbon like birth certificates.

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A week later, my name was written on the back, but on the front,

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they just said, boy, they just said, boy, Dozier.

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They had boy Dozier. In other words, they were recognized that it is a male.

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Just doesn't have a name yet, but his last name is Dozier. And then finally,

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a week later, when they came up with the name, my name was written in on the backside.

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So I just wanted to say that because I believe that's one thing that is mentioned

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when people say, well, they're born like this, born like that.

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Many times things have happened. Things have happened. There's been some type

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of molestation. There's been some type of early gloom.

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And now they really, because they're young, they don't know who they are.

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They don't know who they are when they're that young. They just don't.

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If there's anything where you might seem to have an inclination some kind of

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way, it's not because there's something wrong with your chromosome or something

430
00:31:40,345 --> 00:31:41,825
like that or something was in your DNA.

431
00:31:41,825 --> 00:31:45,125
But that will be because we are born with the fallen nature.

432
00:31:45,505 --> 00:31:49,625
And like I like to tell people, that is why we need to be born again.

433
00:31:50,405 --> 00:31:55,605
So I just wanted to say that I really admire the way you handle this,

434
00:31:55,765 --> 00:31:57,265
the way you bring this out.

435
00:31:57,425 --> 00:32:00,445
And I myself, when I first heard you, I was surprised.

436
00:32:01,805 --> 00:32:06,625
That this had been going on so long, not the behavior that it had been going

437
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:12,045
on so long, But that there were people who called themselves medical people,

438
00:32:12,205 --> 00:32:16,525
doctors and all, who were furthering the problem and being more so like mad

439
00:32:16,525 --> 00:32:17,725
researchers, in my opinion.

440
00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:22,545
Yeah. Well, yeah. And you just spoke to my testimony. You know,

441
00:32:22,565 --> 00:32:23,985
something happened during childhood.

442
00:32:24,165 --> 00:32:27,525
I had a grandma cross-dressing me and physical abuse. All those things happened.

443
00:32:27,645 --> 00:32:33,025
And we know that, according to research, that children who are traumatized in

444
00:32:33,025 --> 00:32:40,625
their early childhood suffer at the level of where their identity is being formed

445
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,325
in their brain because they get confused.

446
00:32:43,325 --> 00:32:46,305
The word is confused. It's not transgenderism. It's confusion.

447
00:32:47,025 --> 00:32:50,785
And if we change these words, and I say, you know, they have dysphoria,

448
00:32:51,025 --> 00:32:53,265
but it's not gender dysphoria.

449
00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:55,485
They have dysphoria about what happened to them.

450
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:59,985
And so if you see my writing, I always talk about, yeah, I agree. They're suffering.

451
00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:01,245
They have dysphoria. It's just

452
00:33:01,245 --> 00:33:05,105
not related to gender. It's related to something that happened to them.

453
00:33:05,105 --> 00:33:09,605
And our job as clinicians and helping people who love the Lord Jesus Christ

454
00:33:09,605 --> 00:33:14,085
is to get them to tell us what happened that caused them to not like who they

455
00:33:14,085 --> 00:33:15,965
are. And we find out it's not about gender.

456
00:33:16,285 --> 00:33:20,585
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462
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We can win this war for our children by working together. And so then when they

463
00:33:49,091 --> 00:33:52,671
realize it, then they begin to realize they weren't born in the wrong body.

464
00:33:52,751 --> 00:33:54,491
I mean, I thought I was born in the wrong body.

465
00:33:55,051 --> 00:34:02,311
And I spent a lot of years crying because I was being abused as a kid and didn't understand it.

466
00:34:02,411 --> 00:34:06,291
And so I have a lot of compassion for people who've suffered.

467
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:11,011
But I also love to tell them the truth because it wakes them up.

468
00:34:11,011 --> 00:34:13,991
And so I appreciate what you had to say. You're spot on.

469
00:34:14,291 --> 00:34:20,511
And this is issues that happen. And that's what we all collectively need to understand.

470
00:34:20,771 --> 00:34:22,691
And as I said, I wasn't homosexual.

471
00:34:23,031 --> 00:34:27,711
The people I work with, maybe just the ones who write me aren't homosexual.

472
00:34:27,711 --> 00:34:31,871
I've had a couple of them, but not many of them. I mean, the drag queens,

473
00:34:32,091 --> 00:34:36,091
they're the homosexuals, you know, they're flamboyant, they're out there.

474
00:34:36,151 --> 00:34:42,111
The drag queens are in your face, flamboyant, over the top, crazy, wacko, nut jobs.

475
00:34:42,451 --> 00:34:46,611
The people who are struggling with something that happened to them identify

476
00:34:46,611 --> 00:34:52,351
as a female, but they kind of want to blend into society and not even be seen because of their pain.

477
00:34:52,451 --> 00:34:56,751
That was the way it was for me. And the fact of the matter is that many of them,

478
00:34:56,811 --> 00:35:00,191
this you might find surprising, become asexual.

479
00:35:00,251 --> 00:35:03,291
They don't even want to have a relationship with anybody.

480
00:35:03,771 --> 00:35:10,871
And that's how it was for me. So you kind of shut down and you're dealing with

481
00:35:10,871 --> 00:35:14,971
a whole lot of deeper issues and you need somebody to help you with them.

482
00:35:15,031 --> 00:35:19,991
And the Lord's really helped me. And I'll give my testimony about how I came

483
00:35:19,991 --> 00:35:24,131
to Christ at the conference. I'll hold that one because it's pretty remarkable.

484
00:35:24,411 --> 00:35:29,731
It's kind of the highlight of the movie as well. So, yeah, these are great topics

485
00:35:29,731 --> 00:35:33,911
and appreciate your sort of weighing in on it. It's good stuff.

486
00:35:34,451 --> 00:35:37,851
So I have a question. You were speaking earlier and you said that you were actually

487
00:35:37,851 --> 00:35:42,531
suicidal after getting the transition surgery. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

488
00:35:43,231 --> 00:35:50,111
Yeah. I mean, keep in mind, I was working for Honda as a high paid executive

489
00:35:50,111 --> 00:35:54,051
and had a couple of parking places and stuff.

490
00:35:54,211 --> 00:35:58,411
And so when I approached them about the fact that I was going through this,

491
00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:00,071
this was what it was, they said.

492
00:36:01,348 --> 00:36:07,728
They quietly had me put everything in a box at my desk and marched me out to

493
00:36:07,728 --> 00:36:09,648
the guard shack and terminated me.

494
00:36:10,088 --> 00:36:14,728
And they eliminated my job so that they couldn't say that they didn't have to

495
00:36:14,728 --> 00:36:17,268
say they fired me. They just said they eliminated my position.

496
00:36:17,668 --> 00:36:22,608
And so within a fairly short period of time, I had no job.

497
00:36:22,728 --> 00:36:26,588
My divorce had been final. I had no place to go.

498
00:36:26,748 --> 00:36:30,808
I ended up living in a park in Long Beach, California.

499
00:36:31,348 --> 00:36:35,528
Face down in a pile of vomit. That was kind of my bomb bottom end.

500
00:36:35,648 --> 00:36:39,328
And from there on, I started kind of clawing my way back.

501
00:36:39,508 --> 00:36:48,648
And so that was in 1984 is when I started my journey back, which was a rough, rough go.

502
00:36:49,288 --> 00:36:55,448
Wow. So I'm also curious because speaking of trauma, I always believe that a

503
00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:57,028
lot of this is trauma-based.

504
00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:01,588
When you started to unravel your your trauma, did that take away that dysphoria?

505
00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:07,768
Absolutely. Yeah, because what happened, you know, we're giving somebody the

506
00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:12,348
impression that when we tell them you have gender dysphoria and the treatment

507
00:37:12,348 --> 00:37:16,728
is hormones and surgery, what we're saying is that's the fix, right?

508
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:19,648
And it's not, it doesn't fix anything.

509
00:37:19,968 --> 00:37:26,168
You know, it's only going to make things worse. So if we're really keen and

510
00:37:26,168 --> 00:37:32,048
truthful about our work, we will try to identify what the real issue is.

511
00:37:32,148 --> 00:37:34,888
You know, is it bipolar disorder? Is it schizophrenia?

512
00:37:35,208 --> 00:37:40,548
Is it body dysmorphia? Is it just physical abuse? I mean, I'm working with a

513
00:37:40,548 --> 00:37:42,488
young boy, and I've worked with him since 2021.

514
00:37:43,308 --> 00:37:51,288
He's 29 years old, but Kaiser Permanente diagnosed him at age 13 when he was suffering deeply.

515
00:37:51,408 --> 00:37:55,068
He was in a psychiatric hospital in California, Sacramento, diagnosed him with

516
00:37:55,068 --> 00:37:59,848
schizophrenia, bipolar I disorder, and PTSD, PTSD and also told him that he

517
00:37:59,848 --> 00:38:01,288
had gender dysphoria at 13.

518
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,433
Now, he was under their care the entire time.

519
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:11,313
He never, he was so badly psychologically messed up from his early childhood

520
00:38:11,313 --> 00:38:14,413
of being sexually abused and beat up. He had a horrible childhood.

521
00:38:14,713 --> 00:38:21,093
And so by the time 24, 25 came, Kaiser Permanente diagnosed him again with gender

522
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:25,053
therapists in San Francisco saying that you have gender dysphoria and that we're

523
00:38:25,053 --> 00:38:28,313
going to perform surgery on you. We're going to perform surgery. Get that?

524
00:38:28,453 --> 00:38:31,913
And this is going to help you. okay so that

525
00:38:31,913 --> 00:38:35,653
was in march of of 2021 he

526
00:38:35,653 --> 00:38:40,613
contacted me in august of 2021 and his first statement to me was well i don't

527
00:38:40,613 --> 00:38:44,573
know why they did this surgery to me i said what do you mean you don't know

528
00:38:44,573 --> 00:38:50,053
why and he says you know i've i've got schizophrenia i've got bipolar disorder

529
00:38:50,053 --> 00:38:55,193
and ptsd and uh and he's And if you listen to him talk,

530
00:38:55,633 --> 00:39:00,953
he's probably childlike and he hasn't fully developed.

531
00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:05,153
You know, he's young in his thinking.

532
00:39:05,793 --> 00:39:11,033
And so, and I immediately said, you know, if you don't mind,

533
00:39:11,073 --> 00:39:15,353
can you send me your medical records and let me look at how they came to this conclusion?

534
00:39:15,493 --> 00:39:18,553
And I looked at him and saw some of the remarks in there.

535
00:39:18,613 --> 00:39:22,713
And I said, well, this is a medical malpractice case. And we can get you lawyers,

536
00:39:22,793 --> 00:39:26,353
which it turned out to be, I got him in touch with lawyers at ADF,

537
00:39:26,373 --> 00:39:28,533
and it's a case that's now ongoing.

538
00:39:28,873 --> 00:39:33,713
And Kaiser Permanente currently has four or five such cases going,

539
00:39:33,873 --> 00:39:35,933
one man and the rest of them are women.

540
00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:42,133
And so when we have the opportunity, and we'd have many more medical malpractice

541
00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:48,613
cases if we could get them early, but right now you have to file a medical malpractice

542
00:39:48,613 --> 00:39:50,333
case within two years of harm.

543
00:39:50,473 --> 00:39:53,593
And most of the people don't admit they're harmed until five,

544
00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:56,413
six, seven years down the road, so you're kind of dead in the water.

545
00:39:56,513 --> 00:40:01,233
So when I have somebody that's contacted me early, we're able to make some headway. Yeah.

546
00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:05,821
Yeah. You know, this, we just need it again.

547
00:40:06,261 --> 00:40:11,081
They had the information that he was, had schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

548
00:40:11,261 --> 00:40:14,561
They didn't bother trying to treat him for that. They decided that they would

549
00:40:14,561 --> 00:40:19,441
cut off his genitals and, and change him into a female quote,

550
00:40:19,561 --> 00:40:21,041
which didn't happen either.

551
00:40:21,261 --> 00:40:27,921
So the harm, I mean, I spent, I over, I don't know, maybe 200 phone calls for this guy.

552
00:40:27,961 --> 00:40:31,321
He's calling me at midnight and two in the morning, ready to commit suicide.

553
00:40:31,321 --> 00:40:33,401
I had to call him off the ledge.

554
00:40:33,481 --> 00:40:37,941
I can't tell you how many times I was in Tennessee doing an interview with Candace

555
00:40:37,941 --> 00:40:41,841
Owens, and he called me just before the interview, and he was suicidal,

556
00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:44,501
and I had to stop and talk him down.

557
00:40:44,501 --> 00:40:50,341
And so this has happened so many times that most, I can tell you,

558
00:40:50,361 --> 00:40:53,121
all of the people that I've worked with, including myself.

559
00:40:53,461 --> 00:40:59,321
This is interesting, have never and never will be counted as regretters in any

560
00:40:59,321 --> 00:41:02,221
studies because there is no place for us to go.

561
00:41:02,221 --> 00:41:08,421
So, you know, to me, there's just absolutely some amazing things that you're sharing here.

562
00:41:08,741 --> 00:41:14,781
But what's amazing to me is that you did this transition, you know,

563
00:41:14,801 --> 00:41:16,541
after you made it through high school.

564
00:41:16,661 --> 00:41:20,641
I mean, that in and of itself, we all know how difficult that is to form an

565
00:41:20,641 --> 00:41:22,221
identity, period, right?

566
00:41:22,221 --> 00:41:26,421
You get married, you have a successful job, you have a family,

567
00:41:26,501 --> 00:41:32,641
and now your solution is to transition and they don't realize,

568
00:41:32,761 --> 00:41:34,341
well, how did your wife feel about that?

569
00:41:34,421 --> 00:41:38,941
Did she want to be married to somebody who now would be the same sex?

570
00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:44,661
And then how this would ruin your family and then affect your job?

571
00:41:44,661 --> 00:41:51,181
And you can see that the tragedy, you know, I just can't imagine how you got this far into this.

572
00:41:51,261 --> 00:41:55,661
And these people are saying, well, it's really because you're in the wrong body.

573
00:41:55,721 --> 00:41:58,761
And yet here you are a man who has a job with a family.

574
00:41:58,941 --> 00:42:02,801
To me, how can, how can that be the case? If you're so successful,

575
00:42:03,001 --> 00:42:05,441
maybe there's something else going on here, right?

576
00:42:05,961 --> 00:42:10,401
Yeah. And this happens. I, like I said, vast majority of the men that I work

577
00:42:10,401 --> 00:42:14,281
with are married with children and some of them, three, four or five kids, they have jobs.

578
00:42:15,081 --> 00:42:20,241
So this is common. You know, they diagnosed me with a dissociative disorder

579
00:42:20,241 --> 00:42:21,781
from being sexually abused.

580
00:42:22,281 --> 00:42:27,761
And there's a story about how that came about because I was working as a psych

581
00:42:27,761 --> 00:42:31,661
tech at a California hospital, a lockdown psych unit.

582
00:42:31,801 --> 00:42:36,021
So I was actually working there. I wasn't a client. I want to make that clear.

583
00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:40,721
So the story just keeps unfolding. And that's why the movie,

584
00:42:40,861 --> 00:42:42,901
Who Am I, is going to be powerful.

585
00:42:43,021 --> 00:42:46,781
If we can get it produced, it costs a lot of money.

586
00:42:47,512 --> 00:42:51,192
And I'm not a person with a lot of money. I have very minor resources.

587
00:42:51,452 --> 00:42:58,112
And so I just became a screenwriter to make it happen and partnered with Sean

588
00:42:58,112 --> 00:43:01,772
Sorghosi of Ascend Pictures, who contacted me in 2022.

589
00:43:01,872 --> 00:43:05,912
And he says, you know, this is a story about redemption through Jesus Christ

590
00:43:05,912 --> 00:43:09,312
that needs to be told in this arena of transgenderism.

591
00:43:09,352 --> 00:43:14,152
And so the movie, quite honestly, we finished the script only two weeks ago.

592
00:43:14,252 --> 00:43:17,452
It is fantastic. fantastic and we wrote it in Santa

593
00:43:17,452 --> 00:43:20,872
Paula California in a little coffee shop in

594
00:43:20,872 --> 00:43:24,152
that town and it starts there and it's powerful

595
00:43:24,152 --> 00:43:30,512
and it's about Jesus it's really a story about Jesus Christ and and the Lord

596
00:43:30,512 --> 00:43:35,832
Jesus used me for this story it's really not my story if we look at it it's

597
00:43:35,832 --> 00:43:40,732
just the way how the Lord worked through my life to bring this to such a fantastic

598
00:43:40,732 --> 00:43:42,352
conclusion that That I'm now,

599
00:43:42,452 --> 00:43:48,972
you know, having come back in 1990 to be redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ during

600
00:43:48,972 --> 00:43:55,912
a prayer and then start a ministry that's reached literally thousands of people and doing it for gratis.

601
00:43:56,052 --> 00:44:02,132
And now, you know, we survive really on making money from speaking.

602
00:44:02,312 --> 00:44:08,052
So I charge as much as I possibly can. Not enough, but I'm just teasing you.

603
00:44:08,972 --> 00:44:11,692
So so you know we we try to

604
00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:14,792
make it up on that end and and so that's what we do so it's

605
00:44:14,792 --> 00:44:17,552
a great pleasure and honor to to be there and

606
00:44:17,552 --> 00:44:21,492
you know it's interesting just a little side note one of the people who's speaking

607
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:26,392
there which i won't mention their name at the conference in on my birthday in

608
00:44:26,392 --> 00:44:33,752
october 2015 i met that person with my book and said you know this is a story

609
00:44:33,752 --> 00:44:36,512
about my life that needs to be a movie.

610
00:44:36,952 --> 00:44:41,352
And the person spoke to me for a couple of minutes and was busy.

611
00:44:41,452 --> 00:44:43,632
So I'm not putting them down, but they walked away.

612
00:44:43,932 --> 00:44:49,992
This will be the first time that I will have seen that person since October, 2015.

613
00:44:50,292 --> 00:44:54,292
And I keep wondering, am I going to say something about the fact that I was

614
00:44:54,292 --> 00:44:56,852
trying to encourage that movie back in 2015?

615
00:44:57,332 --> 00:45:05,132
So it's been on my heart. The Holy Spirit's really been tapping me on the shoulder, get this done.

616
00:45:05,312 --> 00:45:12,932
And so here I am at, I'll be 83 in October, 84 in October, and I'm still going strong, man. You know?

617
00:45:13,392 --> 00:45:15,952
Yeah. And so. Keep it going.

618
00:45:16,532 --> 00:45:20,652
Walt, I do have a few questions. I couldn't ask them before because there were

619
00:45:20,652 --> 00:45:22,272
some noisy landscapers outside.

620
00:45:22,492 --> 00:45:25,192
Take it off mute. Sure. Sure.

621
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:31,280
You did the surgery, then did you do another surgery to get back?

622
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,340
I mean, obviously, the first surgery you were castrated?

623
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,900
Yeah, and there's no putting, I refer to this, there's no putting Snoopy back. Sorry. Gotcha.

624
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:47,960
There's things, there's total destruction here. This is a mutilating surgery.

625
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,380
Yes. You cannot replicate what God made.

626
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,380
And so this is the horror of it. but you need to move beyond the horror.

627
00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:03,060
You know, the original procedure, the surgery was actually designed to help

628
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:07,180
people who had testicular cancers and to keep them alive.

629
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,860
And they've just taken this and used it for ill purposes.

630
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,580
It had a good purpose to keep people alive.

631
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:19,340
And now it's actually used to harm people who are more likely to commit suicide.

632
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,080
So yeah, you go back, you get as much surgery as you can. And you can see I'm

633
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,920
a vibrant old geezer and surgery or not.

634
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,360
Right. And then you have to take hormone replacement therapy,

635
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:33,660
like testosterone therapy.

636
00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:39,220
Fortunately, I don't. You know, my body, I don't take any kind of hormone therapy

637
00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:41,960
at all. My body is adjusted to all that.

638
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,180
And so for somebody younger, they will probably have to go on testosterone.

639
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:52,640
Testosterone, but there's a point my endocrinologist said, you know,

640
00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:55,020
you don't need to be doing this anymore. That was a few years back.

641
00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:58,580
And so you can come off it when you get to be old and gritty.

642
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,560
So you're not there yet. Yeah. So Walter, another question I have is,

643
00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:12,320
so you want to try and make them see what was happening in their life,

644
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:16,180
what was going on with them, why they didn't want to be themselves,

645
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,820
why they wanted to be somebody else, why they wanted to be their mom, their dad.

646
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,240
Everybody needs to go back and listen to that part again. But when do you try

647
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,620
and bring in the spiritual side to this?

648
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:33,160
Yeah, I bring in the spiritual side when we finally have the opportunity for

649
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,160
them to understand what happened once we bring them around.

650
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,240
And so, you know, this is sort of like the old story about you can go and bring people water.

651
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:46,590
Bucket after bucket, or you can show them how to drill a well.

652
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:52,550
And so we're trying to get them to drill a well where they understand where it's coming from.

653
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:56,410
And they know about my relationship with Jesus Christ.

654
00:47:56,850 --> 00:48:02,610
And I've worked with people who are Muslims, who are, they come from all different

655
00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:04,610
walks of life. Some of them don't like Jesus.

656
00:48:04,730 --> 00:48:07,890
Some of them hate Jesus, but I still help them.

657
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:12,830
And I let them know that, you know, Jesus is there with open arms to bring them back.

658
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:15,490
And so I don't win them all to Jesus.

659
00:48:15,810 --> 00:48:19,890
Not doesn't happen. But, you know, the young man that I was talking about,

660
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:21,610
he's a Jewish individual.

661
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:25,770
And and so I talked to him about Jews for Jesus, you know.

662
00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:32,630
And so we have these conversations. But redemption and restoration is the power

663
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:34,730
and grace of Jesus Christ in somebody's life.

664
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:39,070
And I know that at some point in time, the intervention that I had in their

665
00:48:39,070 --> 00:48:43,310
life, they're going to remember what happened. them. And that's what's going

666
00:48:43,310 --> 00:48:44,790
to alter their life through Christ.

667
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:49,830
And so I'm just the one who's going to help them understand what happened to them.

668
00:48:49,930 --> 00:48:54,590
And when I have the opportunity to bring them to Jesus, I'll do it.

669
00:48:54,690 --> 00:48:59,170
But my first job is to get them to understand why they're not transgender,

670
00:48:59,470 --> 00:49:03,690
why they're not going to transition, and why it's not about gender dysphoria.

671
00:49:03,850 --> 00:49:07,930
Then I can work with them, and they can begin to see that they've been lied

672
00:49:07,930 --> 00:49:12,050
to and manipulated by a system that wants to harm them.

673
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:16,570
Keep in mind, the group that is pushing this agenda, you know,

674
00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:19,770
like to kill babies in the womb.

675
00:49:20,050 --> 00:49:23,510
And if the baby gets out of the womb, then they want to change their gender.

676
00:49:23,610 --> 00:49:28,730
I mean, this is the idiocy of the people who are in this arena trying to harm people.

677
00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:35,050
They want to to take a hammer to the cornerstone of every church in this country and destroy it.

678
00:49:35,070 --> 00:49:38,890
The foundation of the church is one man, one woman and family and kids.

679
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:43,470
And they're after it. This is evil we're dealing with.

680
00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:47,270
So we need to get people pointed back to the fact that, you know,

681
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:48,770
the answer's in Genesis.

682
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:53,390
You don't change your gender. No matter what happens, it's about conception

683
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:56,950
and you can't change it. It's innate and unchangeable.

684
00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:00,190
I'm here to testify to that. that I'm living proof?

685
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:05,290
Two things, and you could tell me if I'm on this, but one of the things that

686
00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:10,450
I'll deal with people about when they have certain issues is their environmental

687
00:50:10,450 --> 00:50:11,970
structure and their cognitive structure.

688
00:50:12,550 --> 00:50:15,410
And we know environmental structure, that will be the people that you're around,

689
00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:19,270
people that influence your life, church being the best environmental structure

690
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:21,750
you can have, church and family. But sometimes, unfortunately.

691
00:50:23,423 --> 00:50:25,663
Person can be in a family that's not a good environment structure.

692
00:50:26,403 --> 00:50:31,443
But from that, you develop your mental structure, which is where we see that

693
00:50:31,443 --> 00:50:35,203
cognitive structure, how you see the world, how you see yourself, how you play things out.

694
00:50:35,643 --> 00:50:40,403
And this in itself brings your thoughts, your thoughts, your behavior and your behavior results.

695
00:50:41,123 --> 00:50:44,623
And so if you're going to have a change of that, you have to reverse all of

696
00:50:44,623 --> 00:50:47,903
that. And it leads back to that mental structure where the mind has to be renewed.

697
00:50:48,703 --> 00:50:52,183
Would you say, because when I do that, whenever I look at that,

698
00:50:52,223 --> 00:50:57,223
what I'll do is now I'll take it and I'll go to the word of God and look at

699
00:50:57,223 --> 00:51:01,203
what the word of God says about each of those things, because that is what really

700
00:51:01,203 --> 00:51:02,523
is going to bring about the change.

701
00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:08,023
Would you say that in your counseling or in your therapy and helping people

702
00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:13,023
that you either use that or something similar to that, or that you agree that

703
00:51:13,023 --> 00:51:14,383
yes, that environmental structure,

704
00:51:14,923 --> 00:51:19,143
from an early age even can add to how you see things now.

705
00:51:19,263 --> 00:51:22,603
Plus when these people go further, and get these surgeries,

706
00:51:22,843 --> 00:51:30,343
you have individuals who really are just evil, who are making that initial environmental

707
00:51:30,343 --> 00:51:34,623
structure that was negative lead to a worse result in your life.

708
00:51:34,783 --> 00:51:35,783
I would like to leave it right there.

709
00:51:36,023 --> 00:51:41,163
Yeah. Well, yeah, we have set up with Lucas Miles at Influence Network.

710
00:51:41,463 --> 00:51:48,203
We now, I partnered with Lucas and we have what we call thehigherinstitute.com.

711
00:51:48,343 --> 00:51:54,543
And we are now have a group of people at the church who are trained to bring

712
00:51:54,543 --> 00:51:56,143
scripture to these individuals.

713
00:51:56,363 --> 00:52:00,423
I started this a long time ago. We brought it. Now this is the next phase,

714
00:52:00,643 --> 00:52:03,503
the Higher Institute. So you're absolutely right.

715
00:52:03,703 --> 00:52:09,163
I mean, what I realized when people finally identify what happened to them,

716
00:52:09,223 --> 00:52:10,483
they realize it was their environment.

717
00:52:11,297 --> 00:52:16,577
They understand that. So then it's the next thing is, how do I unravel the damage

718
00:52:16,577 --> 00:52:18,597
that was done by the hormones and surgery?

719
00:52:18,777 --> 00:52:21,857
So you've got several layers of things you're working with.

720
00:52:21,957 --> 00:52:27,457
And we know that the Lord Jesus Christ loves them and is going to help them through that process.

721
00:52:27,617 --> 00:52:33,317
So we now, through Lucas Miles and his church in Granger, Indiana,

722
00:52:33,717 --> 00:52:38,317
that I partnered with, we have that now better established than ever before.

723
00:52:38,317 --> 00:52:40,797
And so that's really the new mission.

724
00:52:40,957 --> 00:52:42,977
I was handling, you know, 35

725
00:52:42,977 --> 00:52:49,717
or 40 emails a day, one person working seven days a week, 365 days a year.

726
00:52:49,777 --> 00:52:52,637
There was never a day that I didn't have something going on.

727
00:52:52,817 --> 00:52:57,357
And so that with all of the other things I had to do became just too big of

728
00:52:57,357 --> 00:53:06,877
a task. So Lucas said, you know, we need to partner with you and have your legacy continue this work.

729
00:53:07,037 --> 00:53:12,297
And so we're actually starting to put up billboards about the higher institute

730
00:53:12,297 --> 00:53:14,577
dot com for people to contact.

731
00:53:14,757 --> 00:53:18,957
That's the first thing that's going to happen and start putting billboards up

732
00:53:18,957 --> 00:53:22,897
on major highways throughout the country as we're able to do that.

733
00:53:22,897 --> 00:53:26,737
That hopefully gets some support for getting the movie going,

734
00:53:26,937 --> 00:53:32,277
which is, that takes so much money, and get people interested that have the

735
00:53:32,277 --> 00:53:34,217
ability to help make a movie come about.

736
00:53:34,637 --> 00:53:40,757
And now is the time. I mean, we are ripe to do this before we continue down this rabbit hole.

737
00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:45,557
So yeah, the Lord Jesus Christ saved my life. He can save anybody's life.

738
00:53:45,717 --> 00:53:48,477
That is the key. You'll hear about that at the conference.

739
00:53:49,097 --> 00:53:52,157
Amen. I love that. I have two questions for you.

740
00:53:52,657 --> 00:53:57,577
I've got an interview at 11, so I'm sorry. Okay, really quick.

741
00:53:57,677 --> 00:54:00,597
Are you surprised by the explosion this issue caused?

742
00:54:01,242 --> 00:54:07,342
Everywhere today. No, no, I'm not. Because Obama came in and appointed 150 LGBT

743
00:54:07,342 --> 00:54:13,002
activists as czars in his administration and started to crush everything in government.

744
00:54:13,222 --> 00:54:17,842
And Obama is still the president of the United States.

745
00:54:18,062 --> 00:54:22,922
He's just acting from his home, wherever it is in Nantucket.

746
00:54:23,142 --> 00:54:28,302
So, you know, this was started primarily by him, who had great disdain,

747
00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:30,882
I believe, for people of faith.

748
00:54:31,042 --> 00:54:34,702
You know, he talked about the Bible-toting, gun-carrying people that he,

749
00:54:34,822 --> 00:54:38,162
you know. So this is where we are. I don't mean to get political.

750
00:54:38,282 --> 00:54:41,682
The fact of the matter is there's people out there that don't like Jesus,

751
00:54:41,762 --> 00:54:44,762
and they want to destroy that whole foundation.

752
00:54:45,382 --> 00:54:50,382
Listen, when he made the declaration of Transvisibility Day on Easter,

753
00:54:50,582 --> 00:54:52,282
that's all you needed to know.

754
00:54:52,962 --> 00:54:56,262
So we're going to fight back. We're going to fight back with the truth.

755
00:54:56,322 --> 00:55:00,082
The truth is going to set us free. and I'm going to keep speaking out about it.

756
00:55:00,242 --> 00:55:05,502
Even after the Lord takes me home and puts me in the box, I'm still going to be talking about it.

757
00:55:06,122 --> 00:55:10,562
Amen. Amen to that. So, Walter, as we're running out of time here,

758
00:55:10,822 --> 00:55:13,102
we want to know how we can pray for you.

759
00:55:13,222 --> 00:55:18,142
And of course, I know one of your prayers is about this movie and we'll be praying about that.

760
00:55:19,382 --> 00:55:22,662
Also, we're going to post in the show notes, all the links, everything that

761
00:55:22,662 --> 00:55:27,522
you mentioned and a link for that to crowdfund. So we'll put that all in there

762
00:55:27,522 --> 00:55:28,902
for you. Yeah, appreciate that.

763
00:55:29,022 --> 00:55:32,262
Yeah, themoviewhoami.com.

764
00:55:32,402 --> 00:55:34,802
And we certainly need everybody's support.

765
00:55:35,282 --> 00:55:38,942
And the Higher Institute will help those people who are struggling.

766
00:55:39,162 --> 00:55:43,342
And Lucas Miles at his church in Granger, Indiana, got a good staff of people

767
00:55:43,342 --> 00:55:45,022
that are ready, willing, and able.

768
00:55:45,142 --> 00:55:49,562
And I'm still working with them. I haven't completely pulled back from that. We're just partnering.

769
00:55:50,403 --> 00:55:53,523
So thank you. Dr. Doge, do you want to pray this out, brother?

770
00:55:54,203 --> 00:55:57,563
Father, we thank you. We bless you and we honor you. And we thank you for our

771
00:55:57,563 --> 00:56:00,603
brother, Walt Mayer. We thank you, Lord God, for his openness.

772
00:56:00,823 --> 00:56:04,963
We thank you, Lord God, that you have set him up at this particular time,

773
00:56:05,163 --> 00:56:06,923
this season in our nation.

774
00:56:07,183 --> 00:56:10,943
And we pray that your hand of protection will be upon him. We pray that your

775
00:56:10,943 --> 00:56:14,363
wisdom will guide him, Lord God, and your Holy Spirit will lead him.

776
00:56:14,843 --> 00:56:18,643
And even as he continues on, even with the movie, we pray the success of the

777
00:56:18,643 --> 00:56:23,483
movie, that that many eyes are open and many people will become aware of the

778
00:56:23,483 --> 00:56:27,523
dangers which we face today and even on how to come out of these things.

779
00:56:27,803 --> 00:56:31,163
So as we leave this day today, once again, at this time, once again,

780
00:56:31,203 --> 00:56:35,823
we thank you and all glory and honor and praise belongs to you. In Jesus' name, amen.

781
00:56:36,183 --> 00:56:40,143
Amen. And thank you all so much. Thank you, Walt. Thanks for coming,

782
00:56:40,283 --> 00:56:43,223
Walt. And we get to see you in just a little over a week now.

783
00:56:43,643 --> 00:56:48,203
You bet. All right. Well, great. Thank you. It's so true that God has,

784
00:56:48,283 --> 00:56:50,163
you know, healed you, and now

785
00:56:50,163 --> 00:56:54,463
you're able to share this wonderful gift of healing with a new generation.

786
00:56:54,783 --> 00:56:57,343
So God bless you. Thank you. Thank you.

787
00:56:58,203 --> 00:57:02,143
Hello, this is Dr. Kevin Kruse, and I'm the president of the board for Serving

788
00:57:02,143 --> 00:57:03,323
Others in Love in Honduras.

789
00:57:03,843 --> 00:57:10,163
What led me to get involved? It's when I felt Jesus ask me the same question as Peter, do you love me?

790
00:57:10,283 --> 00:57:14,763
And each time I had to answer the question why I wasn't feeding his sheep.

791
00:57:15,283 --> 00:57:19,063
Of course, there are needy people in America. But once I went overseas,

792
00:57:19,223 --> 00:57:23,423
it became obvious to me that these were the least Jesus was talking about.

793
00:57:23,743 --> 00:57:27,563
Then I met Dan Isabel, the International President of Soil Ministries.

794
00:57:27,823 --> 00:57:31,623
Dan shared with me how Honduras is the second poorest in our hemisphere.

795
00:57:32,003 --> 00:57:36,263
Here's Dan Isabel to explain why he and his family have been ministering in

796
00:57:36,263 --> 00:57:38,423
Honduras for over 60 years.

797
00:57:38,903 --> 00:57:44,003
In 1964, my mother took her three children and started this ministry.

798
00:57:44,003 --> 00:57:50,003
With only $75 a month and a burning desire to serve widows and orphans and to

799
00:57:50,003 --> 00:57:51,163
show them the love of Jesus.

800
00:57:51,443 --> 00:57:56,603
Before she was finished, she had pioneered 76 churches and a bilingual school.

801
00:57:57,083 --> 00:58:03,743
Now we have over 170 churches provide water, food, and evangelism to thousands

802
00:58:03,743 --> 00:58:05,203
of children and to widows.

803
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,420
Children are also loved through our deaf school, emergency medical fund,

804
00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:12,440
medical missions trips, and child evangelists.

805
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,900
But there is still so much more to do. We have churches that need roofs and

806
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:20,280
available land that can be used to build schools, clinics, and churches.

807
00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:23,580
Some of our locations don't even have enough food for themselves.

808
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,820
Some of our transportation is broken beyond repair.

809
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:31,820
But let me introduce you to one of my partners, Dr. Tony Ponsetti, to tell you more.

810
00:58:31,820 --> 00:58:37,700
Serving others in love in Honduras is my passion because we're equipping pastors

811
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:42,680
and leaders with seminary-approved degrees and marriage seminars that can keep

812
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,100
them from being shut down.

813
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:48,800
Did you notice how the true story of sound of freedom started in Honduras?

814
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,360
Nothing can make me prouder than to know that our shalom home of trafficked

815
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,520
girls is fighting this unspeakable evil today.

816
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:04,020
Now, let me introduce Dr. Thomas Dozier. so he can tell you how you can get involved.

817
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:12,220
500 people giving $17 per month provide over $100,000 of support to the children of Honduras.

818
00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:16,360
You can be a part of making a difference in the lives of the children of Honduras.

819
00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:21,320
Fortunately, some of us can help build a school or put a roof on a church.

820
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:23,720
But more than just money, we

821
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,280
want to invite you and your church to go to Honduras us on a mission trip.

822
00:59:27,380 --> 00:59:32,800
There are many possibilities, and we would love to talk about how God can allow

823
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,420
you to reach His children.

824
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:41,360
Please visit our website at soilministries.org and click on donate. Thank you.

825
00:59:42,635 --> 00:59:46,755
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826
00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:50,695
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827
00:59:50,695 --> 00:59:53,335
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828
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829
00:59:57,335 --> 01:00:01,855
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830
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831
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832
01:00:12,935 --> 01:00:17,635
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833
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834
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840
01:00:50,975 --> 01:00:55,535
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841
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842
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843
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844
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