June 25, 2024

The Trap of State Sponsored Indoctrination With Rev. Kevin McGary

The Trap of State Sponsored Indoctrination With Rev. Kevin McGary
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Welcome to Supernatural Junkies! In this episode, Super Alex, Dr. Kevin, Dr. O'Hara and Dr. Dozier are joined by Kevin McGarry, founder of Every Black Lives Matter and author of several Christian books. The team discusses the importance of forgiveness and breaking free from the chains of division within the church and society.

Kevin shares his journey from a tumultuous upbringing in San Francisco's Hunter's Point projects to becoming a devoted Christian and community leader. He emphasizes the crucial role of family, particularly fathers, in the well-being of the Black community. The conversation delves into the harmful impacts of Marxism, Black liberation theology, and critical race theory, and how they diverge from true Christian teachings.

The episode also explores the significance of forgiveness in healing personal and societal wounds. Kevin McGarry highlights the necessity of forgiving others to truly embrace one's new identity in Christ. The team discusses the upcoming conference aimed at educating and unifying believers to stand against modern-day deceptions and to foster genuine discipleship.

Tune in for an enlightening discussion that challenges conventional narratives and encourages a return to Biblical principles for personal and communal transformation.

About Our Guest

Kevin McGary

Kevin McGary is an entrepreneur, author, and public speaker. In the arena of civic engagement, Kevin serves as Chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation of California and is an executive with the Douglass Leadership Institute and the Northstar Leadership Pac.

Kevin has worked for the past 35 years in Information Technology as a sales and management professional. He has been designated a “Top Performer” throughout his sales career in the arenas of Cybersecurity, Enterprise Applications, Application Development Automation, and Enterprise Job Scheduling/Utilities. In addition, he has entrepreneurial skills as he has started and participated in several “start-ups!” Kevin leads a collection of pro-active individuals committed to developing innovative and new approaches to today's socio/political issues. With the assistance of elected officials and a myriad of community activists, he lectures and provides workshops about today's most perplexing problems.

Over the past decade, Kevin has lead teams of individuals committed to developing innovative approaches to today's socio/political issues, and with the assistance of elected officials and myriad of community activists, he lectures and provides workshops about how to combat today’s most perplexing socio/cultural issues.

In 2020, Kevin founded Every Black Life Matters (EBLM) EBLM is designed to counteract the emerging violence and systemic poverty in under-served, mostly Black urban communities. EBLM is seen as a “moral-based" & “Faith-based” alternative to Black Lives Matter.https://everyblm.com/about/

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Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to Supernatural Junkies

01:49 - Supernatural Junkies Merchandise Announcement

02:17 - Special Guest: Kevin McGarry and DEI discussion

06:14 - Kevin McGarry’s Background and Calling to Ministry

10:06 - Supernatural Encounter and Call to Write

11:10 - Launching Every Black Life Matters

12:54 - Addressing Racism and Planned Parenthood

16:21 - Importance of Fathers in Family Dynamics

20:16 - Exposing Marxism and Liberation Theology

26:06 - Urgent Call for Change in Churches and Communities

29:23 - Cognitive Dissonance in Churches and Apostolic Consecrations

31:06 - Parable of Gazelles and Lioness: Church Vulnerability

32:23 - Struggles with Biblical Truth in Theological Education

33:31 - Pastoral Perspectives

34:04 - Black Liberation Theology

35:58 - The Power of Forgiveness

37:16 - Impact of Unforgiveness

39:56 - Unveiling Black Liberation Theology

45:28 - The Roots of Critical Race Theory

48:46 - Obama’s Influence

50:28 - Saul Alinsky’s Legacy

53:36 - The Cycle of Oppression

55:42 - The Essence of New Creation

58:48 - The Call to Disciple

01:02:46 - Prayers for Conference Success

01:05:02 - Answering the Call to Serve

01:06:11 - Equipping Leaders in Honduras

01:07:21 - Join the Supernatural Junkies

01:07:59 - The Power of Protandim

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Supernatural Junkies. I'm Super Alex.

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I'm Dr. Kevin, and I am natural today. I guess that means that I will be the

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Wait a minute. I think there might be somebody else here. Yeah, don't leave me off.

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Who's that? Who's that? Who is that? This is Dr. Dozier, and I'm lifting it up spiritually.

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That's right. He's pumping you up spiritually. I pump you up. We are here.

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Hello, everyone. This is Dr. Kevin Cruz, Sans La Alex.

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She's not able to join us right now, but we have all the doctors in the house. Dr.

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Dennis, Dr. Dozier. What's up, baby?

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Good afternoon. Good afternoon. You can see why Alex doesn't let me do this.

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So we're thankful for today that we're able to get together, guys. And Dr.

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Dennis, if you get to see him, we're going to be putting all these out on Rumble.

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Humble and Dennis did did you get a tan since you were on earlier today no I just changed the light.

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So we have my Irish tan and we

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have Kevin McGarry on with us today and so

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say welcome to Kevin how are you today brother I'm good I'm honored to be here

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amongst such you know wealth of knowledge and you know being surrounded by all

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doctors hopefully that bodes well and that means that Maybe I can join your

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ranks at some point, hopefully sometime soon.

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Well, you were just telling us about your dissertation that you got coming up.

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So I always love to go back and start at the beginning.

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But just to introduce Kevin a little bit, Kevin is the founder of Every Black Lives Matter.

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He is the author of a book called Woke Up, and of course, is from a Christian perspective.

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And then we also have a number of other books. kevin you were telling me one

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other one but he just sent me his latest book and his latest book is called

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free to be servant and slave finally breaking free of all bondage as a new creation

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in christ so we'll get the chance to talk about all those other ones what was

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the other one you mentioned kevin.

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DEI and 3D. So many people in the body of price, so many people who are business

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owners are trying to wrap their mind around what is DEI, diversity,

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equity, and inclusion, and what does that mean?

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How do I as a Christian respond to that?

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So DEI and 3D is a book that's designed to help us to really understand what

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diversity, equity, and inclusion is sincerely.

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It's an apolitical, non-ideological look

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it just takes you through history and helps you to understand why

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we are at the times where we are right now at the end of

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it you come to the obvious conclusion that it's a nefarious and insidious type

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of a scheme and not something that's truly altruistic but going into it would

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help you to understand all of the particulars and then you arrive at whatever

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whenever it concludes you arrive.

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Well, of course, that's going to be very consistent with, you know, what we've been seeing.

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And of course we kind of started right there in 2020 when it was all out in

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the open and it was very obvious that something was going on in the world that

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all the rules for how we handle pandemics and, and suddenly natural immunity is,

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you know, something that's disgusting,

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you know, as if that's not the reason we're in existence.

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Resistance and so we all have that

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you know paranoia we went through and of course a lot

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of us you know being doctors here chiropractors

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we we had a little up on that because we we had a little understanding about

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these vaccines and how that works so but the average person i mean we we got

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taken for a ride here and so in a lot of ways you can see we're still coming

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out of that and And, of course, now we're in a situation where,

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you know, 40% of Gen Z,

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right, is now considered LGBTQ.

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And so not only they pull COVID off.

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But, yeah, they've got 40% of our kids now convinced that they're born in the wrong body.

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So we're seeing, you know, this tremendous, you know, upheaval in all of the normal traditions.

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And, of course, in our faith and the prophetic times, we think that,

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you know, this is all what we were told, that there would be this great falling away.

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And I can see, Kevin, that you are all about getting back what we seem to be

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losing around the country.

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But my question for you probably to start would be, you know,

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when did you first come to that part in your relationship with God where,

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you know, now you're working with ministry, you're working in writing Christian books.

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When was that first part where you really asked yourself, am I called to this ministry?

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No, that's a great question. So let's talk a little bit about my history.

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So I was born in the 60s in the Hunter's Point projects in San Francisco. ago.

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So if you know anything about Hunter's Point in the 1960s, that was where the

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Black Panther Party started.

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So I was born in that kind of community, abject poverty, lower income bracket, obviously.

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And then my parents moved to a lower middle-class community not far from there.

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And I pretty much grew up in that scenario, public school system.

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I was a hoodlum and basically did all those things that, you know,

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the street, you know, crazy hoodlums do during that time.

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I was always oversized. So I was a big boy and had a tendency to want to bully others.

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And it's just, you know, stupid stuff.

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So it was just street stuff that I did, but I used to endure,

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you know, just look for fights.

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Right. So, and I never lost one.

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And so I've had this sort of arrogant, you know, sort of way of trying to bully people and all that.

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In essence, because my father, who was a runaway alcoholic all my formative

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years, but because he came home every night, I got good grades because he was a big man, too.

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And my mother used to say, look, you don't bring home those grades.

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I'm going to stick your drunk daddy on you.

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And so I brought home good grades. And then after I graduated high school,

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I went to college because I didn't know what else to do.

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I got good grades in public school, went to college, went to San Jose State, got a sociology degree.

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Degree and and but my during this

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entire time i was raised in the church

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and my mother was a she she is a

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mighty woman of god and she's you know always interceding and

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praying and all that and so when i graduated college a social studies degree

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i met the love of my life 37 years ago and and and we decided to take god at

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his word we decided to take our christianity seriously we think that our form

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you know while we were growing up and all that that was all fine but in in reality,

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we were carnal christians at best and so it was that whole even though it seemed

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sort of disjointed that whole background actually you know set the premise and

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the predicate if you will,

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for my current life which is after we decided to take god at his word take him

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seriously be be discipled and actually, you know, do that, take that earnestly.

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One of the things that the Lord helped us to understand is that he would not

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release us to disciple others until we were discipling our own family.

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So we took our commitment to discipleship seriously.

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Our two children, we discipled them even to this day.

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When they went through college, we didn't just release them.

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Okay, we've grown you up and you can go.

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We kept the commitment to disciple. And my son, I talked to him three or five

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times a week while he was at Loyola Marymount.

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Our daughter, we talked three to five times a day because she was at Columbia University in New York.

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Crazy marxist you know education and

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so we had to constantly you know deprogram her

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and all that so fortunately for us

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our kids are you know committed christians conservative not based on ideology

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but just because this is biblical right so i say all i have to say this that

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after we started to take god seriously and start to do conform you know basically

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conform our household into the way that he designed,

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he put a calling on my life to actually start to write.

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Now, I didn't know what that really meant, but this is how it happened.

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When my son was growing up, I got him involved in martial arts and I decided

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to take it with him because I used to just love to scrap, as I've mentioned in my background.

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And so one Saturday we had an open sparring thing and I was taking it to the young boys.

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I tore an ACL and the Lord, I really heard it like audibly.

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I know this is a supernatural, you know, podcast. So you guys understand,

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but I heard audibly, but inside on that Sunday morning when my wife and children

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were going to, to church and I had a big old, you know, a standage around my

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knee because I tore my ACL.

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I heard the Lord say, now that I have your attention, I'm thinking,

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I need you to write. I'm thinking, right.

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God, Because, you know, you have to understand, I had no anticipation, desire whatsoever.

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Who would want to think that I want to be a writer, write a book? Are you kidding me?

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Anyway, I opened up my laptop coyly, just open it. All right, whatever.

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And supernaturally, I'm writing a book on the kingdom.

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So heavy theological, huge, huge impact type stuff.

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And it was all stuff I didn't study, had no anticipation about.

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It was straight revelation, right?

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So that book was done in about eight weeks. Start to finish,

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footnotes, everything.

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Thing it was just download and so that was

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really supernatural for me and to this day all the

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books i've written right now seven they all

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come back so the supernatural thing

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is is real i'm a living example of that i'm a

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straight boy from the hood you know and if you read my books it

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doesn't have that that character or flavor to it

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it's you know kind of deep in a sense but the other thing is is the lord says

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look now i'm going to take that zeal that's in you that you want to fight you

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want to scrap all the time never walk away from the fight i'm going to put you

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on the tip of the spirit culture because you are not a cow you're not you know

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come what may come on send me and,

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that's kind of my attitude it's always been you know and so so he did when when

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blm was tearing up communities doing a lot of crazy stuff in 2020 after george

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floyd's yeah i really are a co-founder a co-founder, myself and myself,

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we decided, look, we need a righteous and faithful alternative to Black Lives Matter.

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We're going to call it Every Black Life Matters. Every Black Life Matters.

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And fundamentally, we started that because BLM was not about black life at all.

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I mean, they said that all we are we here for is police brutality.

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And we saw that NAACP was failing horribly to protect and stand for and help advance black life.

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And we saw BLM was not about black life at all.

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You go to their website, you know, some of your people may say,

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well, how could you say OK, if you if you would have went to their website in

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2020, you would have saw that they are anti-family, anti-father,

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anti-God, anti-life in the womb, anti-capitalism.

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In other words, they're fully revolutionary Marxists by their own by their own admission.

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These are all things that antagonize black

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life these are things that make black life so much

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more difficult and so we said no no no

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we want to be an organization that stands for black life in

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other words we're not going to stand by with eugenicists

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racist eugenicists as they specifically target

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the black community for black genocide we're not

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going to stand by for that we're going going to stand up for black

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pre-born life in the womb so you

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know this this this scenario where we have black lives being

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born at this rate while every other ethnicity in america

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is being born at this rate this should be appalling to everybody we're not saying

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every black life matters as a symbol of superiority we're saying every black

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life matters to t-o-o so can we at least be born parent at the same rate that everybody else is.

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Can you stop targeting black life in urban communities by having 90% of your

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planned parenthoods within walking distances of black and brown communities?

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That's clear that this is racist eugenics, eugenicists, and it's a depopulation

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plot against a particular community.

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This is the definition of racism. and yet we have the NAACP and BLM all in on

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it so we're saying no this is unacceptable.

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So big question here. I know I've been going for a while here, so sorry.

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That's all right. But it's really interesting that you're pointing out these

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facts that, you know, here you are.

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Everybody is is on board with this Black Lives Matter.

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And you're you're just a precursory look. And all of a sudden you see this isn't

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helping blacks. This is hurting.

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Right. It's hurting our children. It's our families.

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And it's interesting because I had an interview I got to see,

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and one of the guys was a Black Lives Matter.

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they both did well at what they were trying to do.

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But here's what happened at the end. The one guy, you know,

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goes off and he talks about how this is what they want to see for solutions

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with Black Lives Matter,

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matter right and of course he wasn't way out there

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or anything it wasn't crazy but at the

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end of that show the the guy who was hosting

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just turned to him and said let me give you another

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solution he said what if every

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black dad went back home and raised his child

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okay and you should have seen the

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guy's face it was a long pause and he goes well

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that would work too and that's what you're saying right

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we exactly what we're saying what

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we're saying is you know the when we had

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lbj specifically target the black community to separate and divide our families

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by incentivizing mothers to kick the men to kick the men out of the house and

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therefore you get a little bit more welfare this is the fact then that's when

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the the black family really began to disintegrate rapidly.

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70, 75% of their single family mother only, you know, household.

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So, so, you know, we're, we're saying is look, fathers can have the huge impact.

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If fathers had been in the home, we wouldn't be seeing the, you know,

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crazy sexualization and,

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and, you know, brainwashing of our children towards trans and lbgt and all this

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stuff going on in the schools because the fathers would be able to sort of level

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set their children when the children come home with the these these notions

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right so fathers are important this is ordained by god fathers are the pillar of a household,

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and what we're saying is look if we're sincere about black life then fathers

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need to be a part of now we understand we have a hookup culture and all that

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i get it and so we have fathers with babies all over the place. I get that.

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But what we encourage is that fathers remain connected to your children.

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Irrespective of, you know, the crazy with baby mamas and all that.

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We understand things that happen.

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But fathers need to remain connected to your children.

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You need to remain connected. If you love them, if you care at all about them.

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You will remain connected to your children.

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And we're encouraging all fathers, reconnect.

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We know situations happen. It was crazy or whatever.

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But if you care at all about your progeny, you must reconnect with your children.

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Ask for forgiveness do whatever you got to do but out

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of the love for your child please reconnect this is

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what we do with our fatherless program the other thing

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that we do is school choice every black life

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matters too so why can't black life

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be represented in some of these better schools why handcuff black and brown

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communities to public school system so these are the types of things we stand

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for in every black life matters it's not again it's not it's It's not a statement

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of superiority, a statement of equality.

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Can we stop targeting the black community for, you know, tethering us to the

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school systems, tethering us to black genocide,

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tethering us to Marxist, you know, ideas that prevent us from actually wanting

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to create our own businesses, become entrepreneurs and all the other things.

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And so that's why we are the anti BLM, anti NAACP.

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We are this if you if you care at all about black

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life we're the sincere movement towards that okay so you

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can go to everyblm.com and you can get information about us

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and join us you know sincerely become a part

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of us and and help us to to make sure we

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we have that that stand publicly and on the tip of the spirit and culture so

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we can help you with your children and your communities and and all of that

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so i so that's when we started every black life matters and all the books have

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I've sort of come out in between all the things that we do.

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But I think what the Lord found in me is sort of, hey, this brother's a fighter.

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He'll tell anybody, anytime, anywhere, which I will. I don't care.

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I don't have an ax to grind with anybody, but I'm sure not going to let evil prevail in my midst.

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I'm going to stand up against it, whether it's a pastor, a bishop,

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a prelate, a double doctor, a community leader. Right.

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I don't care. Let's let's have that conversation. Let's let's get to it.

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Well, I think, you know, I mean, this is 2000 years of human history here.

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We know what makes people successful and it is the family. Exactly what you're saying.

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And how can you have, you know, everybody jumped on the Black Lives Matter because

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we do want people to know that black lives matter.

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We want people to know that we care about them. Right.

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And that God has his children. Right.

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And so I think that's the part that we all we don't want these things to happen

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in our country. We don't want this racism.

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But at the same time, look at their solution. Like you're saying,

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they openly are saying, destroy the nuclear family.

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Right. Right. And so go ahead.

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So what I encourage people is that, you know, when you have any organization,

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I don't care what kind of organization it is.

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If it is tied to marxism in any

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way shape or form it's not only demonic

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but it's wholly destructive there is nothing that

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you can redeem out of marxism period hard stop a new story and i challenge anyone

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to challenge me on that i've written about marx to a large degree in my last

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couple of books woke up and then dei and 3d but a lot of people are not familiar so if you don't mind,

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I'll give you a brief thumbnail as to why I'm so,

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you know, committed that there is no way, there is no way to redeem any part

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of Marxism, including Black liberation theology and liberation theology generally,

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which 40% of our Black churches adhere to today.

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This is demonic in our midst, and we must stand against it.

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Now, the reason why I'm so emphatic about Marx is this. I'm going to give you a brief background.

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A lot of people don't know this

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about Karl Marx, But Karl Marx had a protege. I mean, he had a mentor.

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Sorry. He was a protege of Charles Robert Darwin.

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He and Engels loved Darwin. They wanted to commit their Communist Manifesto

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to Darwin and, you know, dedicate it to him and all that.

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So they are products of Darwin. Now, here's the problem with Darwin.

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Darwin is the one in human history, the first renowned scientist in human history

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to assert that blacks are still trying to climb his evolutionary scale.

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They are subhuman, gorillas, apes and savages.

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It's all in The Descent of Man, his second book. So so Marx is of that mindset. said.

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So when you talk about white supremacy, when you talk about racism,

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fully inculcated in Darwin's works.

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Now, did we have tribalism and ethnic strife and all that prior to Darwin making

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these audacious proclamations? Absolutely.

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We did. We had slavery going on. It's fine.

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So we had that. But Darwin is the first scientist in human history,

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To say, you know, all humans really, we're not equal. Yeah, no, no.

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God didn't create one human. No, no, there is no such thing as God, first of all.

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Second of all, we humans evolve in rates and stages over time.

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Guess what? Whites are supreme. We evolve first. We're elites.

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And, oh, look at the blast. They're still trying to climb the evolutionary scale.

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They're subhuman, age gorillas, and savages, like I said. This is Dharma.

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Now, Marx takes on this entire mindset and doubles down with his racism.

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He grows up. He never had a job.

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So he was how is he going to be? How is any of his philosophies going to help

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anything economically anywhere at any time?

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Of course, there's Marxism, socialism kind of has always failed because they're

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completely antithetical to human experience and employment.

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Employment so it's never going to work because you have a

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person who's never had a job so mark's never

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had a job he had seven children he was a

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grifter and in the sense that he

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had to borrow money for seven children his entire life in

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his parents life from his parents so he you know he he's the ultimate grifter

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right and a mooch from his own parents who had to support him and his seven

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children he had a live-in sex slave so before there was even such a thing as

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sex slave Marx is the pioneer of that.

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He had a live-in, you know, supposedly, you know, maid who took care of his

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wife and the seven children himself for a decade or more, and he didn't pay her one plug nickel.

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As a matter of fact, what he did is he actually had a son with her.

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and and certainly a sex

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slave right so so then

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this guy hates god so much he says my number one goal

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this is carl marx's number one goal he's i don't care if my economic philosophy

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is going anywhere my number one goal in life is you know i want to dethrone

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god wherever he exists this carl marx so he says whether it's in the synagogue

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or the church or the heart of men And I want to dethrone God, period.

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Hard stop in the story. That's my number one goal in life.

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Charles Darwin, which was, again, his mentor before him, said,

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I'm at war with God. And I just want to go to war with God wherever.

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So this is the mindset of people that we now esteem.

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You look at the World Economic Forum, it's all about communism.

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Karl Marx is the man. And you wonder why demonism is rampaging.

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It's because we've inherited and we've adopted these demonic mindsets emanating from Marx.

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Black liberation theology, which I mentioned before, is all South American Marxism.

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And yet we have 40% of our churches of color, black churches and some Hispanic

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as well, that have adopted that.

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Heavily racialized, heavily racist and demonic.

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James Cone may have been a prolific thinker, but he was, you know, a demoniac.

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And I don't say that with judgment. I say that, matter of fact,

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he could have read that work speak for itself.

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So the church is in a bit of a predicament.

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We have these philosophies, these ideas that have been infused within our own theology now.

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And we're trying to write the church and make sure our kids don't become a trans

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or become confused with homosexuality and all this, we don't even have our act together.

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We're not discipling anymore. We haven't taken that seriously by and large.

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I'm generalizing, but I'm trying to help you to understand where we are now.

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The reason why this conference that we're having is so important is that parents

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and church leaders and community leaders need to come together and really recognize

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the condition that we have right now and begin to do something positive to change it.

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And the way that we do that is to stand a hundred percent against anything demonic

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and especially anything Marxist.

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You know, I mean, honestly, if you listen to anybody and you,

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okay, okay, here's your theory, but the question is, what do you want to do,

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right? What are we going to do?

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And there's no one that would say, you look at evolution, the action plan,

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the revival of the fittest, exactly how does acting like animals make the human

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race better, right? Right. And that's what you're bringing up.

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These guys have these philosophies, but then you look at their action plan and it is clearly demonic.

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There's no way to go that there's nothing more satanic than kill or be killed.

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And that's what evolution is saying.

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And it breaks us down to that level. So why do we teach it in all of our schools

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when we never want anyone to act like that?

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Exactly. Right? Exactly. Same thing now. You look at LGBTQ.

389
00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:26,683
The solution is to hack these little children up, right?

390
00:27:26,823 --> 00:27:30,943
And they're going to die virgins, and they're never going to have children before

391
00:27:30,943 --> 00:27:34,703
they're really of an age that they could make a decision about anything else.

392
00:27:35,183 --> 00:27:39,883
So was this an action plan that anybody would go, yeah, I'm down with that?

393
00:27:40,203 --> 00:27:41,723
Dr. Dozier, you had a question.

394
00:27:42,743 --> 00:27:48,103
Well, yeah, a comment and a question. I want to go back to Kevin McGarry's statement

395
00:27:48,103 --> 00:27:52,083
concerning 40% of the black churches.

396
00:27:52,363 --> 00:27:57,823
I didn't know the percentages, but I do know it's a good number of them.

397
00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:02,683
And I'd like to say that one of the things that I see here is,

398
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I'm sure you know what this is, is what is known as cognitive dissonance.

399
00:28:06,803 --> 00:28:11,923
And I see a lot of cognitive dissonance within it because you're proclaiming

400
00:28:11,923 --> 00:28:16,163
to believe one thing, even your statement of faith will look strong and biblical.

401
00:28:16,623 --> 00:28:22,763
But then what you proclaim or propagate, as you may say, is something totally

402
00:28:22,763 --> 00:28:29,383
contrary to that. And I'm not saying that from, I'm not saying that from theory.

403
00:28:29,563 --> 00:28:31,783
I am saying that from experience.

404
00:28:32,063 --> 00:28:36,103
I don't know if you know this one man, you might know him, this man in Tampa.

405
00:28:36,263 --> 00:28:41,103
He's a, he has a ministry, but he's also a world traveler. His name is Aubrey Shines.

406
00:28:41,543 --> 00:28:47,303
And I'm not, yeah, he, he has your real America voice, but the,

407
00:28:47,443 --> 00:28:51,583
the sound man in my ministry, he has to go to a number, he goes to a number

408
00:28:51,583 --> 00:28:52,703
of churches and assist them.

409
00:28:52,703 --> 00:29:00,923
But he was telling me that when my name or Aubrey Shine's name is mentioned

410
00:29:00,923 --> 00:29:03,863
with a number of these guys, this is their reply.

411
00:29:04,543 --> 00:29:08,543
Oh, you're talking about those fellas. And they'll be like, man, those fellas, boom.

412
00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:13,403
And what he'll be doing is bringing out some of the things that are transpiring to date.

413
00:29:13,663 --> 00:29:18,723
And a great number of pastors, they are oblivious to this. And I believe in

414
00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:23,063
some cases by choice, some cases by choice, they don't want to hear it.

415
00:29:23,083 --> 00:29:27,483
And many now, I just want to say this while I'm on the air, because sometimes

416
00:29:27,483 --> 00:29:31,363
people feel uncomfortable saying it because they may be of another ethnicity.

417
00:29:31,443 --> 00:29:36,683
And I understand that, but I'm not uncomfortable saying it as a black person.

418
00:29:36,723 --> 00:29:40,023
And it's not because, I mean, back in the day, I was a little bit older,

419
00:29:40,063 --> 00:29:43,543
but we might have sparred, man, because I was a pretty, I was a well-traveled

420
00:29:43,543 --> 00:29:45,943
fighter, man. I got to fight a lot of games. Yeah.

421
00:29:49,005 --> 00:29:53,245
But when I when I thought kind of went just by me being humorous, it kind of went away.

422
00:29:55,065 --> 00:30:00,025
But what I what I want to say is I'll come back to it. It kind of like went away from me.

423
00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:03,065
But when it comes back, I'll get to it. I should have shot that humor in there.

424
00:30:03,105 --> 00:30:04,025
Should have stayed on point.

425
00:30:04,525 --> 00:30:07,925
But I'll come back. You were talking about how when you and Aubrey are brought

426
00:30:07,925 --> 00:30:10,285
up, how the brothers, you know, this and that.

427
00:30:10,825 --> 00:30:15,185
And you were about to say something about that's difficult for people to hear.

428
00:30:15,185 --> 00:30:20,965
What I'm seeing here is guys are more into, we're into this thing now,

429
00:30:21,045 --> 00:30:24,625
and I don't know if you see it in California or not, but now all of these guys

430
00:30:24,625 --> 00:30:28,065
are into consecrating one another as apostles.

431
00:30:28,665 --> 00:30:34,585
And so you see guys walking around with their miters and your canes and their

432
00:30:34,585 --> 00:30:40,785
white and their red robe, and you're a power entity within yourself when all

433
00:30:40,785 --> 00:30:42,265
of these other things are going on.

434
00:30:42,265 --> 00:30:46,985
It kind of reminds me, I never forget this when I love to watch those animal shows.

435
00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:50,605
I still love to watch them with especially the big cats when they're on the prowl.

436
00:30:50,805 --> 00:30:57,425
But there were these two gazelles in somewhere in Africa, one of those areas.

437
00:30:58,045 --> 00:31:01,385
And these two gazelles were locked up. They were fighting.

438
00:31:01,805 --> 00:31:05,045
But there were this lioness that was on the hunt. And, you know,

439
00:31:05,085 --> 00:31:06,505
they crouch low and get low.

440
00:31:06,685 --> 00:31:10,365
And she's looking almost as though she's amused. and she's

441
00:31:10,365 --> 00:31:13,165
watching these two gazelles go at it

442
00:31:13,165 --> 00:31:16,925
fighting and while they're fighting she just gradually

443
00:31:16,925 --> 00:31:19,925
creeps up on them and she never really has

444
00:31:19,925 --> 00:31:26,365
to vote she walked right up on them it's like she takes her time reaches up

445
00:31:26,365 --> 00:31:31,265
her paw she grabs one and then takes her mouth and put it around his throat

446
00:31:31,265 --> 00:31:37,245
and when she takes it down the other one stands and looks in shock and then takes off and runs.

447
00:31:37,565 --> 00:31:40,905
If there were two, they would have gotten them two meals for the price of one hunt.

448
00:31:41,145 --> 00:31:46,445
And I looked at that, and that's how I see a portion of the church today.

449
00:31:46,785 --> 00:31:50,845
You're either, your power's within yourself, you're fighting within yourself,

450
00:31:51,125 --> 00:31:54,205
and the enemy is saying, well, I could just creep right up on you,

451
00:31:54,345 --> 00:32:00,405
and there's no opposition against me.

452
00:32:02,565 --> 00:32:07,605
Lastly, I was talking with the pastor that had been in the ministry for a short time.

453
00:32:07,745 --> 00:32:11,085
I was helping them and got them some sound equipment and everything for the

454
00:32:11,085 --> 00:32:13,365
ministry and started feeling a little comfortable.

455
00:32:13,405 --> 00:32:16,165
They started talking to me about school, theological school,

456
00:32:16,205 --> 00:32:17,445
and their desire to more.

457
00:32:18,265 --> 00:32:23,045
And I thought we had a little comfort level for a while. And I was just sharing in conversation.

458
00:32:23,845 --> 00:32:28,745
And I said, one of the things that I struggle with, and I said,

459
00:32:28,765 --> 00:32:35,945
and it's this, I said, I cannot sit and listen to a person who says they're

460
00:32:35,945 --> 00:32:37,465
preaching or teaching something,

461
00:32:38,284 --> 00:32:43,524
And they are off with the word. They are not writing the divine word of truth. Right.

462
00:32:43,924 --> 00:32:48,124
I really was looking for, yeah, I understand where you're coming from.

463
00:32:48,404 --> 00:32:56,424
This person said to me, I needed to be careful of pride because people with

464
00:32:56,424 --> 00:33:01,924
a lot of knowledge can become prideful because they don't want to listen to other people.

465
00:33:02,244 --> 00:33:04,604
That was the most shocking thing I could have heard.

466
00:33:05,244 --> 00:33:11,384
I really heard that. Wow. Wow. I'm glad we're having this podcast today because

467
00:33:11,384 --> 00:33:16,324
I passed a group of people that they tune into these podcasts and they're like,

468
00:33:16,324 --> 00:33:18,644
I mean, they're like loving it.

469
00:33:18,684 --> 00:33:23,824
And they do pray and they're thankful that they have a pastor that will speak truth.

470
00:33:23,944 --> 00:33:28,384
There are some out there, but unfortunately, it is true what you're saying.

471
00:33:28,524 --> 00:33:30,144
There's a great there's a great number.

472
00:33:31,524 --> 00:33:36,584
I can speak for what I know. I do know Caucasian pastors, black pastors.

473
00:33:36,584 --> 00:33:40,524
I'm sure there are some all around, but there's a great number since we're talking

474
00:33:40,524 --> 00:33:44,864
about that in the black community, the African-American community that are not

475
00:33:44,864 --> 00:33:47,844
focused on the issues of today. Yeah.

476
00:33:48,564 --> 00:33:53,204
So let me say this. You know, the reason why they don't want to say,

477
00:33:53,244 --> 00:33:58,944
you know, when your name and Aubrey Shines and maybe some other principal pastors

478
00:33:58,944 --> 00:34:02,064
or preachers come up down there, they don't want to say, well,

479
00:34:02,244 --> 00:34:04,984
you know, they're conservative or they're sold out.

480
00:34:04,984 --> 00:34:08,044
But basically that's the sentiment that

481
00:34:08,044 --> 00:34:11,464
they're probably saying okay now here's the reason why and

482
00:34:11,464 --> 00:34:14,304
the lord helped me with this a couple years ago i was like why is it so many

483
00:34:14,304 --> 00:34:17,224
if we're all in this together we're all reading the word together

484
00:34:17,224 --> 00:34:21,544
why so many are so divided on this thing everybody's in on james cone and his

485
00:34:21,544 --> 00:34:26,324
radicalism and his you know collective salvation stuff and and how everybody

486
00:34:26,324 --> 00:34:32,204
has to come through the blacks why is everybody in on that you know and so the

487
00:34:32,204 --> 00:34:35,684
actual statistic I got from, it was two years ago,

488
00:34:35,884 --> 00:34:39,884
it was a statistic they ran about black liberation theology and its proliferation

489
00:34:39,884 --> 00:34:40,804
within the black church.

490
00:34:41,244 --> 00:34:46,944
And the Lord helped me. He says, son, I need you to understand what forgiveness is and what it's not.

491
00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:51,450
And so I didn't know quite what to do with that other than study.

492
00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:52,810
So I studied on forgiveness.

493
00:34:53,730 --> 00:34:58,070
And every single time, and you know this, Dr. Dozier, every single time forgiveness

494
00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:00,930
is mentioned in the word of God is conditional.

495
00:35:01,550 --> 00:35:07,290
And what I mean by that, let's take Matthew 6, red letter. This is Jesus talking to his disciples.

496
00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:10,690
And he said, you know, an earlier part of that, he says, look,

497
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:13,390
now when you pray, you know, pray in your own closet, don't,

498
00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:14,890
you know, beat your chest.

499
00:35:14,890 --> 00:35:17,790
He gives them the basic fundamentals. then he goes into

500
00:35:17,790 --> 00:35:20,430
the lord's prayer you know our father you know

501
00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:23,930
and then and forgive us as we forget

502
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:29,170
right and so he goes into that and then he says okay okay okay so that's the

503
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:32,110
that's the basic format of how to put together a lord's prayer but he says look

504
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:36,670
look brothers and this is what he's saying in in 13 14 15 he say look brother

505
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:41,710
okay so that was that but if you do not forgive. This is where it left.

506
00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:45,730
Your father in heaven will not forgive you.

507
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:51,130
And I was, so I never heard a sermon, a full sermon on forgiveness.

508
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:58,090
So this is astounding to me that this is not preached and taught very much.

509
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:03,150
And then the Lord helped me to understand that when people demand reparations,

510
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:08,690
critical race theory, equity, these are people that are still feel bitter and

511
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:10,470
have an unforgiving heart.

512
00:36:12,016 --> 00:36:19,416
And what I'm hearing is that he says, listen, son, if you forgave critical race

513
00:36:19,416 --> 00:36:21,676
theory, it wouldn't make sense.

514
00:36:22,156 --> 00:36:27,736
It doesn't make sense to you. It's like, well, how can I hold all rights responsible

515
00:36:27,736 --> 00:36:30,196
for something that happened a couple hundred years ago?

516
00:36:30,996 --> 00:36:35,916
If you really forgave, you had a heart that forgives, demand for reparations

517
00:36:35,916 --> 00:36:39,316
from generations who have since come. own.

518
00:36:39,816 --> 00:36:44,776
It's preposterous. It's like, well, what? You're not responsible for my condition.

519
00:36:45,396 --> 00:36:50,216
If you actually had a relationship of the sufficiency of the cross,

520
00:36:50,456 --> 00:36:56,256
any demands like that are preposterous because you know I have you where I want

521
00:36:56,256 --> 00:36:58,756
you. God, if I can do whatever I want.

522
00:36:59,416 --> 00:37:03,476
So it's not about what some man did or didn't do to you.

523
00:37:03,596 --> 00:37:08,476
It's about where I, God, your father, Jesus, who you're You're supposed to be

524
00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:10,976
yoked to where we're leading you.

525
00:37:11,116 --> 00:37:15,696
So why are you going to hold people accountable for your condition? It's your condition.

526
00:37:16,516 --> 00:37:22,416
So these are the things that need to be understood in the context of the body of Christ.

527
00:37:23,296 --> 00:37:26,736
We have a lot of people that are up there that are harboring unforgiveness and

528
00:37:26,736 --> 00:37:29,756
wear it as a badge of honor, wear it as a blanket of support.

529
00:37:30,376 --> 00:37:35,916
These people are perishing. Their eternal future has an existential consequence

530
00:37:35,916 --> 00:37:40,796
to them. And we as loving brothers and brothers and sisters need to help them understand.

531
00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:45,756
Look, I understand you still feel bitter about what white supposedly did or Mr.

532
00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:50,116
White man here and how they got all the money and all this. Stop it, please.

533
00:37:50,816 --> 00:37:53,936
It's not. Don't stop it because of me. Stop it because of you.

534
00:37:53,996 --> 00:37:55,496
This is you that you're harming.

535
00:37:56,352 --> 00:38:01,132
By continuing in this kind of thought. And then you take them to Matthew 6,

536
00:38:01,192 --> 00:38:03,132
you take them to Mark 11, 25, 26.

537
00:38:03,852 --> 00:38:09,972
Then you take them to Ephesians 2. And you say, look, the reason why we shouldn't

538
00:38:09,972 --> 00:38:13,912
have any of these thoughts, especially within the body of Christ, is we're all brothers.

539
00:38:14,632 --> 00:38:19,472
Ephesians 2, 14 and 21 talks about Jesus broke every barrier,

540
00:38:20,012 --> 00:38:25,672
every barrier, male, female, Jew, Gentile, which is far worse than white lack that we have today.

541
00:38:26,352 --> 00:38:31,212
Jew-Gentile back in the day, that was some serious animus right there.

542
00:38:31,652 --> 00:38:33,352
And he broke every barrier.

543
00:38:34,012 --> 00:38:39,292
Galatians 3.28, Jesus broke every barrier. And now we're all one in Christ.

544
00:38:39,992 --> 00:38:44,292
So how could we, within the body of Christ, point, oh, you're a white Christian nationalist.

545
00:38:44,432 --> 00:38:48,672
That's why you don't want your kids to go to, you know, and learn anything about

546
00:38:48,672 --> 00:38:52,072
trans because you're a racist white Christian. Excuse me?

547
00:38:52,572 --> 00:38:55,932
How are we within the body going to point and condemn others?

548
00:38:56,572 --> 00:39:00,232
We have become the accuser of the brethren talked about in Revelation 12.

549
00:39:00,872 --> 00:39:06,112
Amen. We have become condemners of the brethren when God himself,

550
00:39:06,872 --> 00:39:10,312
this is how audacious and how much hubris we have today.

551
00:39:11,272 --> 00:39:15,372
Romans 8 and 1 says, look, therefore, if you guys are in Christ,

552
00:39:15,432 --> 00:39:18,712
there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

553
00:39:18,872 --> 00:39:22,172
This is God making a proclamation that, look, you have my son,

554
00:39:22,292 --> 00:39:23,532
no condemnation, whatever.

555
00:39:23,532 --> 00:39:29,512
And we have the audacity to condemn others now within the body of christ,

556
00:39:30,772 --> 00:39:36,792
do you know how god must be like what in the world and looking at the sun like,

557
00:39:37,392 --> 00:39:45,492
if we said we don't condemn how do you understand we're in a very crazy time

558
00:39:45,492 --> 00:39:50,852
a lot of it is just the devil infiltrating you know our thing but wait we we

559
00:39:50,852 --> 00:39:54,212
don't even we don't even make sense to ourselves now because of what we do.

560
00:39:56,019 --> 00:39:58,899
Yeah it's like i've really been talking a lot i'm sorry

561
00:39:58,899 --> 00:40:02,959
yeah i know you guys oh it's excellent very great points

562
00:40:02,959 --> 00:40:06,239
i mean but it's like pride idolatry holding

563
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,319
on to that unforgiveness you know matthew 7 you

564
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:12,059
know take the plank out of your own eye where you can remove the speck from

565
00:40:12,059 --> 00:40:15,079
your brother's eye yeah that's hypocritical right that's

566
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,139
what he's talking about but yeah both of

567
00:40:18,139 --> 00:40:22,299
you were talking about black liberation theology i

568
00:40:22,299 --> 00:40:24,979
understand a little bit bit of it but there may be some in the

569
00:40:24,979 --> 00:40:27,939
audience that do not understand that so could you

570
00:40:27,939 --> 00:40:30,859
give a summation of what that is and

571
00:40:30,859 --> 00:40:33,959
and how that differs from uh the true

572
00:40:33,959 --> 00:40:38,759
gospel yeah so i'll start i know dr dozier probably has a lot on that too so

573
00:40:38,759 --> 00:40:43,759
james cone is the guy who who went to south america spent some time with south

574
00:40:43,759 --> 00:40:49,759
american liberation theologists down there and liberation theology is all South

575
00:40:49,759 --> 00:40:52,399
American Marxism, okay? So that's where it comes from.

576
00:40:52,879 --> 00:40:55,379
So after he spent time there, he comes back and he says, look,

577
00:40:55,479 --> 00:40:58,659
we're going to, you know, we're going to focus in on black, black fight.

578
00:40:59,419 --> 00:41:04,439
We have, you know, we're going to add to this gospel. We need a social activism component.

579
00:41:04,939 --> 00:41:08,659
You know, forget about, you know, the one relationship between you and God.

580
00:41:08,739 --> 00:41:10,039
This is a collective theology.

581
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:13,879
Our salvation comes collectively. We all learn

582
00:41:13,879 --> 00:41:16,779
and grow together as our white brothers and sisters

583
00:41:16,779 --> 00:41:20,259
this embrace us and our our plight then

584
00:41:20,259 --> 00:41:24,159
they'll also gravitate within a a

585
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:30,259
salvation motif if you will so and this is very high level stuff i mean he has

586
00:41:30,259 --> 00:41:35,599
specific things that he his proclamations and all i have a whole presentation

587
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,419
i do on james cone and his some of his specific statements but But in essence,

588
00:41:40,619 --> 00:41:47,939
it is a racist idea that divides the body of Christ based on skin color.

589
00:41:48,399 --> 00:41:52,879
Saying, look, we blacks, we're the ones, we're the chosen ones, if you will.

590
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:59,439
And whites need to be serving us so they can actually gain salvation through

591
00:41:59,439 --> 00:42:01,859
their accommodation of us.

592
00:42:01,979 --> 00:42:04,839
It's a social activist type of a gospel.

593
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:09,139
Now, and I know Dr. Dozier has probably much more to say about this.

594
00:42:09,139 --> 00:42:10,999
He's studying and he knows this.

595
00:42:11,099 --> 00:42:16,939
But before I get off of this, I just want to say, read Galatians 1.8 and 1.9.

596
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:23,819
Our brother Paul says, look, even if an angel from heaven comes and gives you

597
00:42:23,819 --> 00:42:28,299
one iota of a different gospel than what we have preached, they are cursed to hell.

598
00:42:29,373 --> 00:42:34,233
He was so emphatic about it, so emphatic about it, he repeated himself and went nine.

599
00:42:34,473 --> 00:42:39,373
This is the only place in Scripture where I found verbatim, just about,

600
00:42:39,593 --> 00:42:43,953
maybe one left out, between two Scriptures. He was emphatic.

601
00:42:44,453 --> 00:42:47,413
So this is a serious proclamation.

602
00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:53,213
And yet we have, you know, a lot of people within our black churches that are

603
00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:56,913
preaching another gospel, right? Right.

604
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:01,513
Dr. Dozier, I don't know if you have more to add to that, but I just say you

605
00:43:01,513 --> 00:43:03,053
did a very good job with that excellent job.

606
00:43:03,153 --> 00:43:07,493
As a matter of fact, I would just say when you just mentioned in South America,

607
00:43:07,613 --> 00:43:14,953
when you look at that, you had your peasants and you could say they're overlords or the aristocratic.

608
00:43:15,653 --> 00:43:21,453
And so the peasants were the oppressed and the ones who were working for the

609
00:43:21,453 --> 00:43:23,253
ones who were over them, they were the oppressors.

610
00:43:23,673 --> 00:43:26,993
And they really did do like when they looked at some of the scripture,

611
00:43:27,153 --> 00:43:31,153
they did some of these things that were supposed to be figurative in a literal

612
00:43:31,153 --> 00:43:35,153
sense, for example, taking up arms and what as.

613
00:43:36,593 --> 00:43:44,473
Kevin is bringing out, it was adopted here and what I'd say here was that the

614
00:43:44,473 --> 00:43:47,493
black man is the oppressed and the white man is the oppressor.

615
00:43:47,993 --> 00:43:51,853
Therefore, when they look at Luke 4, 18, the spirit of the Lord is upon me if

616
00:43:51,853 --> 00:43:52,813
he's not in me, be useful.

617
00:43:53,253 --> 00:43:59,113
And so what they say now is that that means that the white, because the white

618
00:43:59,113 --> 00:44:03,313
man has the money and he and the black man is supposed to be the poor.

619
00:44:03,513 --> 00:44:08,593
He is the oppressor. And so Jesus came for the black man.

620
00:44:08,753 --> 00:44:14,353
And so whatever nation it's in, whoever seems to whoever is supposed to be the

621
00:44:14,353 --> 00:44:18,473
oppressed people there, when in truth, all of us were oppressed with sin.

622
00:44:18,473 --> 00:44:21,333
They take this literally and they just

623
00:44:21,333 --> 00:44:24,533
place it on a different on a certain ethnicity and

624
00:44:24,533 --> 00:44:28,413
so that's why you see some of the things that you see in truth

625
00:44:28,413 --> 00:44:36,453
uh and in truth this in itself i see it as a hybrid of marxism that's basically

626
00:44:36,453 --> 00:44:41,393
what i said because what did karl marx do he he divided the proletariat and

627
00:44:41,393 --> 00:44:45,793
the bourgeoisie uh and and so he had the the workers the peasants and those

628
00:44:45,793 --> 00:44:47,873
went And that's what you end up seeing.

629
00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:51,053
And it has a great degree of covetousness in it.

630
00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:55,893
Definitely much atheism in it, whether people want to accept that or not,

631
00:44:56,013 --> 00:45:00,293
because there is no room for God in the midst of that. No room for God.

632
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:08,533
If you are using that in a church, then the true and living God cannot be the God that you serve.

633
00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:12,593
And you end up worshiping, as

634
00:45:12,593 --> 00:45:17,113
you might say, you end up worshiping color more so than you worship God.

635
00:45:17,513 --> 00:45:20,693
Creating an idol is what you're doing.

636
00:45:21,193 --> 00:45:27,313
But to follow up on that, isn't that where critical race theory is along the same lines of that?

637
00:45:28,401 --> 00:45:32,041
Absolutely so yeah theory but it's

638
00:45:32,041 --> 00:45:35,101
all yeah so critical theory so

639
00:45:35,101 --> 00:45:37,961
a lot of people have not really connected the dots with

640
00:45:37,961 --> 00:45:41,821
marxism critical race theory dei and all this marxism

641
00:45:41,821 --> 00:45:44,561
is the underpinning of all of it

642
00:45:44,561 --> 00:45:47,441
okay so critical theory comes out

643
00:45:47,441 --> 00:45:50,461
of you know so when hitler was doing his crazy

644
00:45:50,461 --> 00:45:54,261
stuff in germany he had four profound uh

645
00:45:54,261 --> 00:45:57,381
you know philosopher types that were part of

646
00:45:57,381 --> 00:46:00,381
his regime that escaped came here united states they set

647
00:46:00,381 --> 00:46:03,301
up shop at columbia university and they

648
00:46:03,301 --> 00:46:06,581
call it the just a little bit the the

649
00:46:06,581 --> 00:46:13,001
anyway there's four of them professors and they came here the frankfurt school

650
00:46:13,001 --> 00:46:19,241
frankfurt school in columbia yeah and so they set up frankfurt school and and

651
00:46:19,241 --> 00:46:23,861
their thing was we're diehard marxists and so we're just going to infiltrate academia.

652
00:46:24,101 --> 00:46:26,801
With marxist ideas now a lot of people

653
00:46:26,801 --> 00:46:30,501
don't understand marx says you need to critically assess and

654
00:46:30,501 --> 00:46:34,221
overturn do a 180 on everything his idea

655
00:46:34,221 --> 00:46:37,781
that that the way communism comes

656
00:46:37,781 --> 00:46:43,381
in which is his utopia was everything must be completely every hegemonic influence

657
00:46:43,381 --> 00:46:49,481
must be completely overturned so the family the school people's belief in their

658
00:46:49,481 --> 00:46:54,221
identity gender sex all that must be completely turned upside down.

659
00:46:54,321 --> 00:46:57,581
So when you understand what's happening now in that context,

660
00:46:57,781 --> 00:47:00,121
you see, oh, this is all a Marxist plot.

661
00:47:00,561 --> 00:47:04,781
So with critical theory comes Derrick Bell in the 1970s.

662
00:47:04,781 --> 00:47:07,861
He says, look, I want to, you know, he and some other black attorneys,

663
00:47:08,001 --> 00:47:10,601
they got in a room and they had this big powwow and they said,

664
00:47:10,621 --> 00:47:15,441
look, we need to take this critical theory, Marxist stuff, turn it into a way

665
00:47:15,441 --> 00:47:18,101
that helps us as a black race.

666
00:47:18,601 --> 00:47:22,901
And so we'll turn it, we'll call it critical race We look at what's happening

667
00:47:22,901 --> 00:47:25,761
with our race. We do have oppressors. We are the oppressed.

668
00:47:26,021 --> 00:47:30,121
We do have victimizers. We are the victims. And this is where this comes from.

669
00:47:30,521 --> 00:47:34,561
So we need to hate the colonizers. We need to hate those that oppress us.

670
00:47:34,941 --> 00:47:39,181
And so CRT, the reason why it's so emphatic that it cannot be in our school

671
00:47:39,181 --> 00:47:41,661
systems, I'm so glad you guys have a good governor down there,

672
00:47:41,761 --> 00:47:46,701
understood this early and he never allowed it, is because it literally teaches

673
00:47:46,701 --> 00:47:49,781
children, literally teaches children how to hate.

674
00:47:49,781 --> 00:47:52,921
Now i don't know about you guys but hate is

675
00:47:52,921 --> 00:47:55,721
is something that i don't really my personality i

676
00:47:55,721 --> 00:47:58,661
don't gravitate to that i can dislike somebody but hate that's

677
00:47:58,661 --> 00:48:05,241
a that's a level i really i don't know how that feels but but to to and also

678
00:48:05,241 --> 00:48:10,901
that was that can only be learned so our our ideas about hate or disliking others

679
00:48:10,901 --> 00:48:15,761
is learned over time what we're doing now is teaching children teaching They won.

680
00:48:16,461 --> 00:48:19,661
He's white. He's an oppressor. You don't hate him or her.

681
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:27,120
So this is why parents must continue to fight against this kind of a trope.

682
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:32,880
The DEI is sort of taken over the CRT thing is diversity, equity, inclusion.

683
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:37,620
So under the equity, this is where this this is still being practiced in a large

684
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:39,600
way under the auspices of equity.

685
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:43,380
Equity means we're going to have equal outcomes, irrespective of competency,

686
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,520
skill set, level set, you know, whatever.

687
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,300
We're just going to place people of color here here

688
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,080
here here here you know so we're going to have more

689
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,840
collapsed bridges we're going to have more doors flying off airplanes we're going

690
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,680
to have more tires flying off airplane because we

691
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,140
have people that are grossly incompetent taking on

692
00:49:01,140 --> 00:49:05,140
highly specialized skillful positions and

693
00:49:05,140 --> 00:49:08,220
it's a scary time for america if we adopt equity in

694
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:11,020
total which it's being funded by our federal government by

695
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:14,320
over three billion dollars a year coming from the from the bind administration

696
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,180
so as this proliferates more and more it becomes more and more catastrophic

697
00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:23,520
and we all need to be aware that's the long and short of it i don't know dr

698
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:30,140
dozer did i miss something no you you were strong you want it okay so going to a personality,

699
00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:37,000
wouldn't obama have personally wouldn't he have fostered this in his administration

700
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,020
and now Now, some people say that Biden is just the third Obama administration.

701
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,100
So and that's why we're seeing this. Absolutely. No doubt about it.

702
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,580
Obama unleashed, you know, he had such a great opportunity to really unify and

703
00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:56,240
do all kinds of great things between all people, all Americans.

704
00:49:56,620 --> 00:50:01,300
But he decided to unleash, you know, this sort of divisionist fraction between,

705
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:04,240
you know, races and genders and everything else.

706
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:10,560
So a lot of this evil was unleashed under Obama, you know, and I'll leave it there.

707
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,400
I know we don't want this to be a political conversation, but there's manifest

708
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,020
evils that have come over the past, you know, 15 to 18 years.

709
00:50:19,921 --> 00:50:24,641
Well, you know, when you go ahead. I would like to ask this question.

710
00:50:24,801 --> 00:50:27,721
I'm almost certain you can elaborate on this.

711
00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:34,921
But when you look at this and this CRT coming through and even some of the social

712
00:50:34,921 --> 00:50:43,581
justice stuff that you hear, there was an individual by the name of Saul Alinsky. Oh, yeah.

713
00:50:45,021 --> 00:50:49,701
Saul Alinsky worked, even though he wasn't a black man. And Saul Alinsky worked

714
00:50:49,701 --> 00:50:57,881
in black communities to instigate a lot of this and got some black pastors to work with him.

715
00:50:58,181 --> 00:51:03,141
Now, here's the problem with that. He wrote a book called Ruse Eradicates.

716
00:51:03,461 --> 00:51:08,261
And some people may not believe this, but he dedicated this book to Lucifer.

717
00:51:09,561 --> 00:51:14,901
And he claims, he says, if there is a hell, he wants to go there.

718
00:51:15,081 --> 00:51:18,061
He wanted to go there because he would start something down there.

719
00:51:18,521 --> 00:51:21,861
But I would like for you, if you were to just elaborate on him a little bit,

720
00:51:21,881 --> 00:51:25,701
some of the things that happened with him and this social justice movement.

721
00:51:25,961 --> 00:51:30,601
Yeah. So Saul, as he was the, you know, I would say he's probably the godfather

722
00:51:30,601 --> 00:51:32,401
of modern day community organizing.

723
00:51:32,581 --> 00:51:38,021
Starting in Chicago, was a virulent atheist, a hateful guy.

724
00:51:38,581 --> 00:51:43,001
But he saw that if we can antagonize blacks, if we can agitate them enough,

725
00:51:43,121 --> 00:51:44,661
we can use them literally.

726
00:51:44,661 --> 00:51:48,141
You know a lot of people think oh well communist social

727
00:51:48,141 --> 00:51:51,441
justice they're they're just trying to help black no no they they're

728
00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:54,741
using blacks they want to use blacks

729
00:51:54,741 --> 00:51:59,761
they want to use our emotionalism against us they want to use our agitation

730
00:51:59,761 --> 00:52:07,241
and and tear down systems structural social system by way of by way of manipulating

731
00:52:07,241 --> 00:52:12,601
and deceiving blacks and and having them to believe that the whole system is against them.

732
00:52:13,081 --> 00:52:16,301
They're using and manipulating blacks. It's completely undignified.

733
00:52:16,521 --> 00:52:19,701
This is not, you know, it's not, hey, we like black. No, no,

734
00:52:19,721 --> 00:52:22,081
they hate us. They want to use us.

735
00:52:22,381 --> 00:52:25,861
And so Saul Alinsky was the master of this, right, in Chicago.

736
00:52:26,521 --> 00:52:31,481
And one of his, you know, his disciples was Hillary Clinton.

737
00:52:32,181 --> 00:52:35,401
Loved him. Some people said that she had an affair with him. I don't know.

738
00:52:35,481 --> 00:52:38,921
And then, of course, you know, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama,

739
00:52:38,921 --> 00:52:42,421
They all arise out of this with Jeremiah Wright and his church,

740
00:52:42,601 --> 00:52:48,921
activist church, black liberation theology churches coming out of that Saul Alinsky mindset.

741
00:52:49,641 --> 00:52:54,061
Rules for Radicals, if you haven't read it, it's a great book to understand

742
00:52:54,061 --> 00:52:57,301
the Marxist schemes, and it helps explain a lot.

743
00:52:57,441 --> 00:53:02,121
It's a terrible book from a spiritual perspective, but if you just want to understand

744
00:53:02,121 --> 00:53:06,001
kind of what's going on and why things are so crazy, read Rules for Radicals.

745
00:53:06,001 --> 00:53:08,461
But yeah, he dedicated his book to Lucifer.

746
00:53:10,235 --> 00:53:13,635
So, Kevin, when I think about, you know, liberation theology,

747
00:53:14,075 --> 00:53:16,415
black liberation, you always see that fist.

748
00:53:16,635 --> 00:53:22,515
And that's immediately what sounds the alarm to me, because our Lord had his arms open.

749
00:53:22,675 --> 00:53:25,715
The Bible even says that he didn't even open his mouth.

750
00:53:26,175 --> 00:53:31,355
Right. And so you see this complete, you know, breaking of the law of responsibility.

751
00:53:31,675 --> 00:53:36,255
Right. But then you go, this is breaking the golden rule.

752
00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:42,535
It is doing to people what you did not want them to do to you,

753
00:53:42,655 --> 00:53:48,035
and you're only going to create another whole generation of people that are

754
00:53:48,035 --> 00:53:49,695
oppressed, right? Yeah.

755
00:53:49,815 --> 00:53:55,815
And that's exactly why the cycle is just perpetuating, and they're using all of us.

756
00:53:55,895 --> 00:54:01,955
The devil is using you when you are not forgiving people, and that's what we have to learn.

757
00:54:01,955 --> 00:54:07,135
And until we get to that point where we can open our arms like Christ and understand

758
00:54:07,135 --> 00:54:12,535
that he is the only one who can take away our oppression and that sin is that

759
00:54:12,535 --> 00:54:15,015
oppression, that's when you make this breakthrough.

760
00:54:15,215 --> 00:54:18,795
And, you know, that's what comes across, that now you have the freedom,

761
00:54:18,895 --> 00:54:20,155
like you say in your book,

762
00:54:20,335 --> 00:54:25,815
to be a slave for Christ, to be, you know, whatever it is that we need to be

763
00:54:25,815 --> 00:54:31,115
because we already understand we've inherited the universe through our Father. Exactly.

764
00:54:31,515 --> 00:54:33,995
Exactly. Exactly right. And

765
00:54:33,995 --> 00:54:37,855
so I'm looking forward to seeing lots of folks come out to our conference.

766
00:54:38,115 --> 00:54:42,355
I will be speaking more on these issues as well as the newest book,

767
00:54:42,515 --> 00:54:46,855
Freed to be Servant and Slave, Breaking Free of the Bondage,

768
00:54:46,895 --> 00:54:50,395
or finally Breaking Free of All Bondage.

769
00:54:51,169 --> 00:54:55,409
As a new creation in Christ. So one last thing I'll say about that is a lot

770
00:54:55,409 --> 00:54:56,889
of people say, look, I'm a new creation.

771
00:54:57,089 --> 00:55:00,189
You know, if you're in Christ, you're a new creation. And I say,

772
00:55:00,409 --> 00:55:04,249
but did you really thoroughly read this? And this is really important.

773
00:55:04,749 --> 00:55:10,529
If you could take anything away from this, take this away. I struggled why the church is so divided.

774
00:55:10,889 --> 00:55:16,269
And I petition God. I'm like, I don't understand it. We're all one in Christ.

775
00:55:16,569 --> 00:55:18,189
We're all new new creations?

776
00:55:18,609 --> 00:55:23,589
How is it that we have people castigating us as white Christian nationalists,

777
00:55:23,669 --> 00:55:25,889
you this and that, you're white and you're color?

778
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:30,369
All within the body of Christ. Of course, we're going to be from the world.

779
00:55:30,449 --> 00:55:32,589
We expect that. But within the body I'm talking about.

780
00:55:32,749 --> 00:55:36,709
So I really questioned God, like, I can't make sense of this.

781
00:55:37,149 --> 00:55:41,809
If we have one lower, one master, how is it? He said, no, you don't.

782
00:55:42,089 --> 00:55:45,089
What you're seeing is not people

783
00:55:45,089 --> 00:55:48,569
who are in christ and i said well what who

784
00:55:48,569 --> 00:55:51,189
are not new creations and i said well how is that

785
00:55:51,189 --> 00:55:53,949
how can you it says if you're

786
00:55:53,949 --> 00:55:57,409
in christian new creation he says no no no read further i read

787
00:55:57,409 --> 00:56:02,529
second Corinthians 5 multiple times then i

788
00:56:02,529 --> 00:56:09,489
got to the part where it made sense it says if you have if you regard anybody

789
00:56:09,489 --> 00:56:14,229
as you regarded them in the world now the second Corinthians 5 started at 11

790
00:56:14,229 --> 00:56:17,629
and you'll read it. It's around 13, 14. You'll get the whole context.

791
00:56:18,409 --> 00:56:22,009
This is a predicate for being a new creation. He says, remember,

792
00:56:22,149 --> 00:56:26,649
son, a new creation is just like a baby being born. You don't have any regard.

793
00:56:27,469 --> 00:56:30,989
In other words, what happened in the past will not move you.

794
00:56:31,269 --> 00:56:32,929
You may not forget. Of course not.

795
00:56:33,309 --> 00:56:38,229
We can't forget horrible atrocities like slavery and whatever somebody else did to us and all that.

796
00:56:39,718 --> 00:56:43,898
But you don't regard their skin color. You have no regard for it.

797
00:56:43,918 --> 00:56:46,778
You have no context for it. Because you're a new creation.

798
00:56:47,398 --> 00:56:49,898
So if you're a new creation, how could you have context for,

799
00:56:50,058 --> 00:56:51,138
oh, you're a white color?

800
00:56:51,458 --> 00:56:56,858
He says, so what you're seeing are new creations and those who think that they're

801
00:56:56,858 --> 00:56:58,778
in Christ and a new creation,

802
00:56:58,898 --> 00:57:04,678
but they haven't yet arrived at that point because they still regard people

803
00:57:04,678 --> 00:57:06,518
the way they regarded them in the world.

804
00:57:07,098 --> 00:57:10,738
The word is clear, guys. I mean, it just reads like Corinthians 5.

805
00:57:10,938 --> 00:57:13,698
It was life-changing for me because it helped me.

806
00:57:14,878 --> 00:57:20,878
So the reason why we have like T.D. Jakes and Jamal Bryan and Mike Bickle and

807
00:57:20,878 --> 00:57:24,958
even Beth Moore who has this whole different perspective, John Piper and all

808
00:57:24,958 --> 00:57:26,958
these people, you know, Platt and all these stuff.

809
00:57:27,378 --> 00:57:30,238
The reason, he says, they're just not new creations, son.

810
00:57:31,358 --> 00:57:34,238
It doesn't mean that they're going to hell today. day but it

811
00:57:34,238 --> 00:57:36,958
means that they're not a new creation and you need to pray for

812
00:57:36,958 --> 00:57:42,798
them help them come alongside them bring them into the reality of that they're

813
00:57:42,798 --> 00:57:48,518
not living according to you know it's fine but we need to understand that just

814
00:57:48,518 --> 00:57:51,758
because somebody has a position or they're a powerful person or we regard them

815
00:57:51,758 --> 00:57:54,938
as a theologian now or in the past means nothing.

816
00:57:56,558 --> 00:58:02,838
So kevin i go ahead i i can't help but think but that moment where Pilate's

817
00:58:02,838 --> 00:58:05,198
trying to tell Jesus, I don't want to kill you, man.

818
00:58:05,518 --> 00:58:11,058
And then Jesus says, listen, you couldn't have any power over me at all.

819
00:58:11,698 --> 00:58:15,998
That's what he says to him. He's in the worst position we can imagine ourselves

820
00:58:15,998 --> 00:58:18,718
being, and he takes control of it right there.

821
00:58:18,798 --> 00:58:24,078
And then he says that his kingdom is not of this world. And that's what you're talking about.

822
00:58:24,298 --> 00:58:29,438
Jesus already knew exactly what you're saying, that we are a new creation,

823
00:58:29,438 --> 00:58:34,458
that none of this stuff, all that you're regarding is not what we're supposed to be regarding.

824
00:58:35,138 --> 00:58:40,798
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And once we get that, then we can have a unified body of Christ.

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Then we could see the billions old harvest. Then we could see revival in America.

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Right now, we're well away from that.

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But with this conference you're putting on, you brothers and us getting together

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and understanding what's really happening here,

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we can break this into to you know existence in a

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not too short there's all kinds of things that are going to be happening this year

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as well that i think will usher in more people

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into the kingdom because the calamity and the chaos

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it's going to be worldwide it's going to start here next week with the eclipse

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and some of this other stuff i believe but we'll help usher in people but we

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need to be sincere about our commitment to disciple and help them understand

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the basic tenets repentance and forgiveness.

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What and and doing my i'm in the process of doing my dissertation and in the

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00:59:29,038 --> 00:59:37,438
process of this what i realize is that we've we've we've we we're missing some steps.

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Because we have this sinner's prayer that was done with the revivalists and

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the early evangelists in the 1800s.

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This concept of the sinner's prayer.

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And it's great. I mean, we were all brought into the kingdom via the sinner's

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prayer. I'm not bemoaning it.

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But we have to understand that that is a creation that came out thousands of

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00:59:58,322 --> 01:00:04,302
years after the church, the release of the New Testament church that Paul released.

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So there's some things that are missing there. People should know when you say

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that you are saved, you must, it must include the forgiveness piece.

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Because according to Jesus, unless you learn to do that piece,

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Father in heaven is not forgiving you.

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So we have a lot of people that we need to really kind of reconcile truth with,

851
01:00:29,122 --> 01:00:31,482
right? We need to spend time and help them through this.

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And so these conversations, this podcast is wonderful for helping to spread the gospel in this way.

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01:00:38,982 --> 01:00:42,302
So anyway, I know I've taken a lot of your time. I don't know how much we're

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01:00:42,302 --> 01:00:45,102
appreciative, Kevin, and thanks for coming on.

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01:00:45,202 --> 01:00:49,602
But how can we pray for you, brother, before we get off today? OK, a couple of things.

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01:00:50,642 --> 01:00:53,662
So let's let's pray that this conference will be successful,

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01:00:53,982 --> 01:00:57,242
that God would anoint the lips of all the speakers and especially mine,

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01:00:57,362 --> 01:01:00,422
you know, to speak truth and to help people.

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01:01:00,422 --> 01:01:03,402
You know we're only doing this conference because

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01:01:03,402 --> 01:01:06,562
we're committed that people need to understand and

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01:01:06,562 --> 01:01:09,622
know and and really grasp the truth

862
01:01:09,622 --> 01:01:12,362
of the times that we're living in now and want to bring them

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01:01:12,362 --> 01:01:18,322
into the kingdom for real for real and so you know help help all the speakers

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01:01:18,322 --> 01:01:23,902
to prepare for that for that meaningful time and then pray for me personally

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01:01:23,902 --> 01:01:31,282
that so i have a couple things going So I have everyblm.com and then I have a locals site.

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01:01:31,582 --> 01:01:37,922
So if you go on locals, you type in the DEI guy on that channel,

867
01:01:37,982 --> 01:01:41,022
what I do is I try to help people understand what's happening with DEI,

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01:01:41,122 --> 01:01:42,322
diversity, equity, inclusion.

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And because it's having an impact on our everyday life everywhere, it's inescapable.

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01:01:50,002 --> 01:01:53,782
And so continue to pray for me to have wisdom on that site,

871
01:01:53,822 --> 01:01:56,922
how to build it and how to make sure that we educate people appropriately

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01:01:56,922 --> 01:02:00,122
with what's happening with this whole equity piece

873
01:02:00,122 --> 01:02:03,322
and how this is all coming out and and

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01:02:03,322 --> 01:02:08,162
so if you can just all the things that the lord puts my hands to i want to be

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01:02:08,162 --> 01:02:13,462
just do well with i don't want to just you know do stuff just because just because

876
01:02:13,462 --> 01:02:19,242
i don't have a need to be popular or famous or rich i that means nothing to

877
01:02:19,242 --> 01:02:20,602
me i just want to whatever,

878
01:02:20,762 --> 01:02:24,502
whatever the Lord has me to, okay, put me on tip of the spear and culture and

879
01:02:24,502 --> 01:02:26,482
release me and allow me to be effective.

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01:02:26,842 --> 01:02:31,242
So people's lives can be changed. That to me is everything. So if you can just

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01:02:31,242 --> 01:02:34,262
pray that, that for me, that'd be awesome. Dr. Dozier.

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01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,220
Father, we bless you and we honor you and we thank you for grace and mercy.

883
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,020
We thank you for gracing us to do this podcast.

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,320
We thank you for our brother, our guest today, Kevin McGarry.

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01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:51,640
And Lord God, even as requests was made, we pray for the success of this conference,

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01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:53,420
that many lives will be impacted,

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01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,040
that people will keep not just here, Lord God, but that they will allow that

888
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,580
which they've heard to remain in their heart, that they will contemplate those

889
01:03:01,580 --> 01:03:05,180
things, Lord, Lord, and that you will grace them with an action plan to walk

890
01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:06,740
out your will in this time and season.

891
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,360
And we also lift up Kevin's ministries. Every Black Lives Matter.

892
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:16,220
Lord, you have graced him and you have used the boldness that you gave him,

893
01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:18,760
Lord, to do the work that he is doing.

894
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,020
And we just pray, Lord God, that even as he walks in this boldness,

895
01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:24,300
that you will give him divine protection.

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01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:30,780
You will watch over him, Lord, guide him. And even in his work on diversity, equity, and inclusion.

897
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,000
I pray, Lord, in the name of Jesus, that even as they do that work,

898
01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:39,520
that many chains will be broken, Lord, and that many eyes will be opened and

899
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,880
many hearts will be set free.

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,260
We do thank you. And we believe that you're going to get, Lord,

901
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:49,260
we know that all the glory for the thing that you ordained belong to you.

902
01:03:49,460 --> 01:03:53,680
We thank you for that now in Jesus' name. Amen. Jesus' name. Amen.

903
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,080
Thanks so much. Appreciate you guys. I'm going to get to see you in a little,

904
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,800
like a week, almost a week now.

905
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:03,800
So, you know, a week. Yeah, I'll be there on, let's see, I arrive on Thursday.

906
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,580
Yep. And so, yeah, you know, a week from now, we'll get to chop it up,

907
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,560
spend time together in person. It's going to be awesome.

908
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,580
Sounds good. Sounds good. And now I know I'm going to be looking up because

909
01:04:12,580 --> 01:04:14,180
I can see how tall you are, brother.

910
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,520
Some height. You've got some height. All right.

911
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,800
Well, I'm glad that you've grown into a bully against Satan. in this.

912
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,080
Thank you, Lord Jesus. Bust him up.

913
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,460
Bust him up. God bless you. Thanks so much for coming. Thank you,

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01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:35,880
guys. Appreciate you. Have a great day.

915
01:04:37,135 --> 01:04:40,715
Hello, this is Dr. Kevin Kruse, and I'm the president of the board for Serving

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01:04:40,715 --> 01:04:41,895
Others in Love in Honduras.

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01:04:42,375 --> 01:04:48,715
What led me to get involved? It's when I felt Jesus ask me the same question as Peter, Do you love me?

918
01:04:48,815 --> 01:04:53,335
And each time I had to answer the question why I wasn't feeding his sheep.

919
01:04:53,595 --> 01:04:56,055
Of course, there are needy people in America.

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01:04:56,335 --> 01:05:00,635
But once I went overseas, it became obvious to me that these were the least

921
01:05:00,635 --> 01:05:01,995
Jesus was talking about.

922
01:05:02,355 --> 01:05:06,135
Then I met Dan Isabel, the international president of Soil Ministries.

923
01:05:06,855 --> 01:05:10,215
Dan shared with me how Honduras is the second poorest in our hemisphere.

924
01:05:10,535 --> 01:05:14,835
Here's Dan Isabel to explain why he and his family have been ministering in

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01:05:14,835 --> 01:05:16,995
Honduras for over 60 years.

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01:05:17,575 --> 01:05:22,555
In 1964, my mother took her three children and started this ministry,

927
01:05:22,715 --> 01:05:28,555
with only $75 a month and a burning desire to serve widows and orphans and to

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01:05:28,555 --> 01:05:29,695
show them the love of Jesus.

929
01:05:30,135 --> 01:05:35,335
Before she was finished, she had pioneered 76 churches and a bilingual school.

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01:05:35,335 --> 01:05:42,455
Now we have over 170 churches provide water, food, and evangelism to thousands

931
01:05:42,455 --> 01:05:43,875
of children and to widows.

932
01:05:44,395 --> 01:05:48,075
Children are also loved through our deaf school, emergency medical fund,

933
01:05:48,255 --> 01:05:51,095
medical missions trips, and child evangelists.

934
01:05:51,435 --> 01:05:55,575
But there is still so much more to do. We have churches that need roofs and

935
01:05:55,575 --> 01:05:58,915
available land that can be used to build schools, clinics, and churches.

936
01:05:59,475 --> 01:06:02,295
Some of our locations don't even have enough food for themselves.

937
01:06:02,295 --> 01:06:05,555
Some of our transportation is broken beyond repair.

938
01:06:06,015 --> 01:06:10,555
But let me introduce you to one of my partners, Dr. Tony Ponsetti, to tell you more.

939
01:06:11,155 --> 01:06:16,555
Serving others in love in Honduras is my passion because we're equipping pastors,

940
01:06:16,895 --> 01:06:22,915
leaders with seminary-approved degrees and marriage seminars to keep them from being shut down.

941
01:06:23,375 --> 01:06:27,775
Did you notice how the true story of sound of freedom started in Honduras?

942
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:33,575
Nothing can make me prouder than to know that our shalom home of traffic girls

943
01:06:33,575 --> 01:06:36,435
is fighting this unspeakable evil today.

944
01:06:36,995 --> 01:06:42,915
Now, let me introduce Dr. Thomas Dozier so he can tell you how you can get involved.

945
01:06:43,835 --> 01:06:51,375
500 people giving $17 per month provide over $100,000 of support to the children of Honduras.

946
01:06:51,675 --> 01:06:55,635
You can be a part of making a difference in the lives of the children of Honduras.

947
01:06:55,955 --> 01:07:00,495
Fortunately, some of us can help build a school or put a roof on a church.

948
01:07:00,695 --> 01:07:06,455
But more than just money, we want to invite you and your church to go to Honduras on a mission trip.

949
01:07:06,615 --> 01:07:11,975
There are many possibilities, and we would love to talk about how God can allow

950
01:07:11,975 --> 01:07:13,595
you to reach His children.

951
01:07:13,815 --> 01:07:20,555
Please visit our website at soilministries.org and click on Donate. Thank you.

952
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:25,969
Hey folks, this is Dr. Kevin Cruz giving you another pump because guess what?

953
01:07:26,109 --> 01:07:29,089
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955
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956
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959
01:07:50,169 --> 01:07:58,449
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960
01:07:59,309 --> 01:08:03,869
Hey folks, it's Dr. Dennis from Supernatural Junkies. I just want to talk to

961
01:08:03,869 --> 01:08:05,129
you today about protandum.

962
01:08:05,549 --> 01:08:09,089
I've been taking protandum for a few years and you know what?

963
01:08:09,329 --> 01:08:13,689
I feel a difference. I am younger than my age. At least I think I am.

964
01:08:14,049 --> 01:08:20,749
Anyway, protandim is a strong antioxidant producer in your body because what

965
01:08:20,749 --> 01:08:25,729
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966
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:30,189
And glutathione, folks, is the strongest antioxidant your body has.

967
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I suggest you use protandim.

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Music.