Why Modern Church Isn't Following The Proven Plan With Dr Daniel Bernard

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Hello, everyone. I'm Alex, and I'm going to be natural.

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I am Dr. Dozier, and I am going to be super. Yeah. And I am Dr.

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O, and I'm going to be the junkie. He's Dr.

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Dennis, and he is a junkie. I am Dr. Kevin, and we are... The Supernatural Junkies.

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All done. Well done, boys.

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Music.

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Hello everyone, we are missing Alex from the Supernatural Junkies,

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So we're going to have to try and be super without her today.

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We have a very special episode. Of course, we have Dr. Dozier's in the house.

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And what kind of house are you in today, Dr. Dozier? I'm in the house of the

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Lord wherever I go. Amen.

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I knew I could coax. I set him up for that one. He set me up. He set me up.

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But so we'll be. Well, we always need Dr.

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Dennis, too, and he's not going to be here today. day. We are doing an episode

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with him later today, actually, because of this time change.

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But we have a very special guest, Dr. Daniel Bernard with Somebody Cares Tampa Bay.

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And for those that have listened before, we've had Daniel on before.

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And of course, Daniel, we nicknamed

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him the diesel because he is always working on something. Always.

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And it's good stuff with Somebody Cares Tampa Bay. And Daniel,

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how long you been doing Somebody Cares Tampa Bay now?

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Only 26 years. Only 26 years.

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That's some heritage. It is. You know, it really is. And when you get to go

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to one of Daniel, we both got to go to his event with his gala and he had Michelle Bachman there.

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And boy, my wife was glued when she was listening.

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But just to see the scope of the things that you guys do, you have mission trips.

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Have you been on a mission trip with Daniel?

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I have. I have. What was that like to go on a missions trip with Daniel?

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Well, for a moment there, I thought Daniel was going to leave me.

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We left from Tampa and everything went well, getting to Atlanta.

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And then we flew on for another 13 hours to Nigeria.

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Daniel hadn't been there for a while. You all may not know it,

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but he lived there for seven years.

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He hadn't been there for a while. So he just started walking through the airport

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and he left me way behind because the guy at customs was trying to get something

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out of me. Yes, I'm telling the truth.

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And so I'm looking in Daniel's way ahead, and this is my first time there,

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so I have to shout out through the airport, Daniel, Daniel, you just going to leave me?

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Yeah, you turn around. Oh, I thought you were right behind me,

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and there were the police in there, and they carry like assault rifles.

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They really carry assault rifles at the airport, and when they started laughing,

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I'm like, okay, I guess it's not too bad, but that's what it was like from the

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beginning, but the whole trip in its entirety, It was great. It was awesome.

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It was a life experience that I would say anyone who does mission work should experience somewhere.

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So, Daniel, we're going to have to make you get your side of the story, right?

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So you're going over to Africa here just in a couple of weeks or what's going on?

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Yeah we try to not to give exact dates and so

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forth just because of of the security and

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so forth that's out there but you know in fact that's why

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we haven't done anything on facebook or anything of that nature oh

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my goodness yeah yeah just we make sure we put this out late no well you can

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put it out whatever just i'm just not going to give you exact dates but yes

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in in the very near future we're going to nigeria for a couple weeks and when

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he says nigeria tell us what he means by that dr doja because you guys be thinking

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you know swimming pools hotels hotels, you know, roads.

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Well, I guess a lot of times when people are here at Nigeria,

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they think Lagos because it's the easiest thing to remember.

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And then you do have some, you know, nice areas.

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What is it called, Daniel? Victoria City or whatever it is. Victoria Island. Victoria Island.

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You got some nice areas and all, but you know, you're not going,

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you're going over there to do work. You're going over there to do kingdom work.

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And so I remember, I remember the first night, I'm just going to be honest.

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We stayed at this hotel in Lagos after it took us forever to drive to the airport

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because there were so many cars on the street because there are millions of

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people live there and and people ride around in Kikis. Kiki's is three-wheel vehicles.

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And so we go to this hotel. When we go in the gate, it looked like something

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from the Arabian Nights. It was a really high gate.

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And then at the top, it had the steel arrow-like bars bent towards the inside.

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I'm like, okay. So I guess this is for defense.

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So we go in and we check in. And Daniel and I went separate rooms.

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I like having my own room. So that was great.

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And so we had our- No bunk beds? We had our good- We had our bed with our good

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friend, Wilson. Wilson and Wilson.

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And Wilson, he's gone on to be with the Lord. But when I get from Wilson,

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and Wilson gave us a code. Wilson said, listen, if you hear a knock on the door, three knocks.

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He said, that's me. Don't open it unless you hear three knocks.

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I said, okay. So I'm in the room and everything.

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And things are a little bit different there. They're quite a bit different.

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I hear this knock on the door. And I open the door, and there's someone saying,

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would you like something to eat?

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And it wasn't Wilson. So I said, Wilson, I said, Wilson, how are you going to

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say this is our secret code and you give it to somebody else?

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But that went that way that night and then later that night wilson said well

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the people are real loud And I was in the room and people were loud and i'm going to be honest.

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I stereotyped the people they were real loud out there And just hanging around,

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And you know, it's my first time there.

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So i'm like, okay I've got to go in defense mode because my door was kind of

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raggedy I mean my door was right you can snatch it real hard and pull it open.

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So the chair in the room was real heavy a round heavy chair I slid the chair

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up against the door, this big old man here, and I put my luggage on top of the chair.

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I said, okay, so if someone decides, I never told Daniel this, I don't think I did.

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I said, okay, so if someone decides to break in, then I can already get in my

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defense position and I can deal with a few of them before they finally,

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but it was very peaceful.

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And then, so what he's asking, we rode on and when we, what we ended up being,

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it was, it was not, This was not what you would call a pleasure trip.

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It wasn't hardship because the people are beautiful, but it's totally different from here.

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When you're driving down that dirt roads, I mean the highway,

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it seemed more like a dirt road.

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But when you're driving down the highway, you've got these huge craters.

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I mean, potholes, but they look like craters.

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And you go somewhere and it's like, okay, what is this going to be like?

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But then when you go and you settle, the people were really a beautiful people.

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And I think it would be good for you once you make it through the airport,

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once you make it out of the airport, because that can be a culture shock for you right there.

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But once you make it out of the airport and you get with the people,

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the people are very, very beautiful.

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Well, and he also goes down the rivers into the bush. So we're going to get

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to Daniel here and just got to give him a few more props here.

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They feed people here in the area. They set up ways that they go in and help

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communities and especially people that have trouble fixing up their houses.

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When disasters happen, Daniel goes and says, I got a couple of trailers leaving.

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So we get to go to his men's conference. He gets pastors together in the area.

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So he's one of the most diverse pastors I've ever met in my life.

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And then he goes to all kinds of places. We're trying to get him to go to Honduras now, officially.

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So, Daniel, we also got to see your son's movie. Tell us about that a little bit.

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Well, yeah, the movie was based on some true events that took place in his life, our life.

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And, of course, he was in a near-fatal car accident. He had a four-by-five-inch

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piece of skull that had to be removed just to allow his brain to swell and try to save his life.

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And so he was declared dead, but God had different purposes for him. Amen.

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And we got everybody to pray. I didn't have any idea what the statistical probability

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of him actually coming back from what he had experienced in the accident and so forth.

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Actually found out later was actually zero and but

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we just began to pray and believe god said it's going to be a

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complete recovery not knowing you know because they said

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if if he does you know come back that he'll never be you know fully functional

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again yeah he'd be in a vegetative state and of course we know if you know if

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you ever see the movie the favorite you'll see that that he's fully functional

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and actually would play the lead role in the movie.

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Wow. Yeah. So you're guys, you're sitting together with two men here that believe,

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okay, they pray and miracles happen.

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And of course, we're having Daniel on today because he's written yet another

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book, and this one is called The Proven Plan.

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Now, I'm not kidding you. We were just, in the last two episodes,

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we've kind of come to almost what you're talking You know, the idea of really

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getting back to some ideas of discipleship, right?

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And so we had had some people comment upon, you know, that they went to church and yada, yada, yada.

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And why are we seeing the church just be kind of ineffective,

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not really being able to address what's happening?

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And, you know, so there's this faith we have in our, our faith can be dead if

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we don't have some actions that follow what we really believe.

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And so we were just saying that one of the reasons why is that you say,

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oh, I went to church today and a young lady told me that. And I go, did you talk to anybody?

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At the church in a personal way that they somehow know you, that they're a part

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of your life? Did that happen at all?

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And of course, you know what the answer is. It was no, right?

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So you see the fellowship part of church isn't happening. We have a spectator sport, really.

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And then that second one is that great commandment that you get into in your

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book, you know, that we're supposed to go and make disciples,

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and that the disciple is a student, right?

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And so I don't know any pastor that believes that going to church on Sunday

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morning is discipleship, right?

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That's kind of the open-ended auditorium, speak to everybody time,

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and we're not going to get too deep into something that would really truly be called teaching.

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I think most pastors would admit that. So then you ask them,

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well, when is the teaching happening?

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And they would say, well, we do life groups. And then you go,

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okay, well, how many people participate in your life groups.

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And then you're going to go maybe 20, 30%, right?

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So that means only a few people in the church are getting that.

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And then if you really look at that, and I know we're part of life groups as

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well, and I'm going to say the

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ones that we've seen, we haven't seen that they're really true teaching.

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They really are more fellowship than actual teaching.

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And so you you can see how now you're trying to revive the proven plan here.

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So we've been talking about how fellowship and actual teaching.

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Which is the art of making disciples, just isn't happening in the church today.

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So I was like, man, let's get him in here before he ships off to Africa, down the rivers.

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Go ahead, Daniel, tell us about you. Well, yeah, you know, this is a book that,

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Basically, I had planned out for years because it's the principles that I use

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in my ministry from way back, even my very first church in Williamstown, Kentucky,

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and as a pastor and street minister in Texas, and then taking that to Nigeria.

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And so much of that, you know, some of those stories are there in that,

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you know, especially the stories of our making of disciples and who've went

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out to plant churches and so forth and make disciples in Nigeria.

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A lot of those stories that I shared in previous, you know, the previous episodes

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when you had me on, I guess I would say.

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But yeah, the main thing, so I finally came to a place and said,

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you know what, it's time to write it. It's time we had outlined and so forth,

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and it just sat there, and I just really felt like now was the time.

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The urgency because of what we see, you know, send the back cover,

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you know, here we have megachurches abound, and yet we have less and less influence on our culture.

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And I said, so either what we're producing is not Christianity at all,

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or the quality of it is so bad that it's ineffective.

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And Jesus said, if the salt were to lose its saltiness, it's good for nothing,

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but to be thrown out, to be trodden underfoot by men.

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And so we have to really look at what we're reproducing, because we only reproduce

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after our own kind. That's right.

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Apples beget apples and what have you, right?

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Goats beget goats and what have you. So there's no transgender there.

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There's no transitioning. You're only reproducing after your own kind.

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And we have to take a serious look.

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Mainly the book is for the church in America. And I believe it is a prophetic word.

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For the church in America, but to take a real hard examination of what we're

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producing and have to say, we've got to change.

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And that means for the church that we have to change.

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We are not set up in how we're doing church right now. We're not set up to make disciples.

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Logistically, even, we're just not set up to have those

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relationships and encourage a relationship building that's

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required in order to make a disciple and so you

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know and part of that is because i believe that we've

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sold out to the god of success or what we understand success is

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and i know that's a hard word but it's

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true yeah but my the very last chapter in

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the book is an army an audience

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or an army yeah amen and you know

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the reason why we're losing this cultural war

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is because an audience they don't come to fight no they come to be entertained

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that's right they come to you know and again i i get it i don't want to you

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know discourage the younger pastors and so forth we're all doing this but you

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know i was in church we're visiting a particular church not,

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my home church but and you know they had the countdown five minutes before you

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know which is okay that's okay but then then it gets undone the last 10 seconds

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and during the last 10 seconds The lights come down.

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And because that's what we're doing. Who can produce the best show?

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and we can get into depth and detail.

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But the solution is we've not followed the proven plan that Jesus gave us,

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that Jesus exemplified.

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we've lost that quality you know

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you know you know people are getting into

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the kingdom by the skin of their chinny chin chin you know

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and they're not in there for the

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rewards that paul said that you're my joy you're my reward at the coming of

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the lord amen and he's referring to you know people who are his you know disciples

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and and and you know i want people you know so we We talked about going for

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the crowns and the different crowns that are there in the word.

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part of the audience, then guess what?

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You might be in heaven, but you're going to be watching everybody else get a

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crown. I said, I don't want to be there.

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Dr. Dozier, what do you think about this rewards idea he's bringing up here?

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Well, first, I want to make a statement. And then I want to ask a question of

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Daniel to clarify some things to the people, because I understood clearly what he was saying.

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But I believe the, well, I can see one of the problems that we have when it comes to this.

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What the church has transitioned to, a portion of the church has transitioned

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to, is getting members instead of making disciples.

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they're a member of, it sounds more like a club or some type of union.

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God has set the members, every one of them, in the bodies as it has pleased

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Him. And so by the Spirit of God, we are baptized into one body.

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speaks of members, it's referring to body parts.

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And so we are part of the body of Christ. We're members of his body.

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But what we're starting to do is make members members.

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Of a church. Some churches even have it where you pay membership dues.

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you start seeing the groups and all. It's even handled like members.

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But when you have disciples, what you now have is students. You have pupils, you have scholars.

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scholars, and students of?

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They're students of the things of God, how to live and what to do,

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how to be, and how to perform.

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When I say perform, I'm speaking of doing the works of the kingdom.

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When I speak of be, how to live as a citizen of the kingdom.

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And so a great deal of that has been omitted for the sake of counting membership.

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And membership is bringing about the success instead of bringing about success

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to the body by winning souls to the kingdom.

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Now, the question I wanted to ask Daniel is, he said something,

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and I think that was very That was very strong, and it was concerning his book.

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And he said, this is mainly for the church in America.

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but I believe I understand.

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Daniel, can you enlighten on that? Can you expound on that as far as what you

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mean by that, mainly for the church in America?

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In most parts and other parts of the world, you know, they grow up in an apprentice

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type of learning where, you know, they're, you know, let's just put it this way.

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in other words, you do what body work, they call it a panel beater.

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you'll have the big guy, the main guy, the owner, right? Right.

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And they're hanging around and they, and they actually do labor for free,

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you know, because just to learn the ins and outs of how to replace an engine

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or whatever the case may be, you know, whatever they're going to be doing on.

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He tells them and he shows them what to do. And then he says, okay, you now do it.

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these owners, you know, they'll play the big, you know, know,

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the big chief, and they're just sitting down, and they're just watching their guys.

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He's, you know, watching these guys work, and, you know, as he gets paid,

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you know, so, I mean, but the reality is that's how they learn.

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And that is exactly how, well, that's how we don't learn here in the United

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States, because, you know, we took on the Greek way of learning,

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and that was knowledge is king, right?

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Knowledge is powerful. But that's the learning process.

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Disciple means learner or follower. The learning process is knowledge,

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understanding, and wisdom.

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is really where you take the knowledge and you begin to apply it.

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then you have the wisdom to know what to do next. Now, it's interesting I make

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a point to saying that also that we don't do that threefold.

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So I'd say we're a jack of all trades and masters of none. We're an inch deep and a mile wide.

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We know a little about a lot. You know what I mean?

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So we don't have depth, in other words. Now, Jesus, that's what he did.

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He told them knowledge he

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showed them right and and

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then he let them right that's why you

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know even when when they came down from the mountain and

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he talked to disciples because they're the epileptic and so forth that and the

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demon possessed they couldn't heal him they couldn't cast him out and he said

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how long do i have to be with you oh ye of little faith in other words there

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was an an expectation on the part of Jesus to his disciples that you guys by

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now need to be getting this,

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you know, you need to be replicating because Jesus,

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his intent was that he was going to leave and all those disciples, all those apostles,

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they need to be operating in wisdom and that wisdom level, you know, you see what I'm saying?

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And so, and that, and if they do that, then I'm good. good, I can lead this

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with them so they can build my church.

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And just consequently is that the Godhead, the Father represents the knowledge, right?

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The Son, Jesus, is where we get the understanding of the Word, right?

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We know, oh, now we know what the Father meant.

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And, of course, the Holy Spirit is what then helps us to carry out.

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is in the Godhead itself.

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I said, so anytime we vary off that very thing is that we, of course,

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are going to not make disciples as effectively as we can.

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And therefore, the quality of what we are producing is not going to be there.

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And this is the proof of what we see in the Church of America,

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the bottom line. You know, it's not too hard that we have abandoned the proven plan.

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And as Dr. Dozier shared, is that, you know, there was a church I was in.

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Was that they said they were going to double their disciples in,

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like, two years. The church is, like, around 250.

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And I was, like, excited. I'm going, like, oh, my goodness, this is,

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like, an aggressive strategy.

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And then I found out what they really meant was their understanding of disciple

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was that they would become church members.

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And church members today, what they do is that they're there to help extend the brand of the church.

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That's right. So they're called in and, you know, yes, I mean,

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so they're called in, they serve.

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They can become a greeter. They can become an usher. They can become a parking

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attendant and so forth and what have you.

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So they serve the brand, all right?

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Now, again, yes, that is a, you know, that is a minimum of what we can see is

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what it is to be a disciple by serving. That's good.

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But, you know, we're called to, we're not even called to build a church,

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right? We're called to make disciples who will make disciples.

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Jesus in Matthew 28, 19, and 20, as we know, he told the disciples, go reproduce yourself.

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Go reproduce yourself. Because you are a disciple. You're my disciple. Now you go.

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So I talk about your family tree. Do you have a spiritual family tree?

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Have you won anybody to the Lord? Have you raised them up in the Lord?

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I mean, that is not expected upon any of our—that's another thing.

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There's no expectation on our members to do that. No, you know,

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it's, it's Jesus's expectation, you know, that we would be reproducing,

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but, but we don't have that expectation.

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And so, yeah, I think it was two years ago.

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I was, I was sitting to prepare a sermon.

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And usually when I prepare a sermon, there's a particular area that I'm going out, look at needs.

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I'll look at where things are. I'll look at, and, and I'm praying and saying,

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well, God, how will you have me to approach this?

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But I remember one day I sat there and I could not get anything.

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Now, when I say I could not get anything, I'm not saying that I could not put together a message.

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I can put together a message in 10, 15 minutes, but that's just putting together a message.

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But it was like the relevance, it was not coming.

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It was not coming. And I'm like, okay, well, what's here, Lord? Because what's here?

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And within my spirit, this is really what I got. You have preached many messages,

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and many have not been moved upon.

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Go back and preach some of the things that you preached before.

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And so what happens is people became lovers of sermons.

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Yep. How you presented them, they became lovers of sermon.

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And be careful because, as Daniel was saying, people can fall in love with knowledge.

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But if you're just puffed up with knowledge, it profits nothing.

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And so when you get information, there's an expectancy for you to move on that information.

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when he's speaking of Melchizedek and Jesus,

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and he said, There are many things

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I can tell you, but they're hard to be uttered or hard to be voiced.

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It's hard for me to say to you, not because he found it difficult for him to

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bring it out, but he was saying the reason being is because you are dull of learning.

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You are lazy with it for when you should be teachers.

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And the only way you can be a teacher is to have been a disciple.

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And he said, so when you should have been, he said, by now you should be teachers.

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So that means they've been taught for a while. Now, he says that you have need

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to be taught all over again the first or the elementary principles of the sayings of God.

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You're like a babe. And so a babe is not necessarily one who's just coming to

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the faith, which that would be a babe.

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But you can be saved four, five, six, seven, eight years, even 10 years and

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still be a babe if you're not taking in a word and acting on the word. Sure.

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So I believe that's what we've seen a lot.

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I do want to say that it's very important to me. I don't think that you have

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to be a giant size ministry to be effective.

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the Spirit of God, the Spirit of God, the Word of God.

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And then you've got to walk out that with God leading, with God leading the way.

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I've seen a number of things done and even Daniel coming over doing some of

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his discipleship training.

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I mean, it was tremendously effective.

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For those of you who don't know, Daniel's been here 27 years.

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I've known Daniel 27 years.

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It's like Daniel found me. This man just showed up out of nowhere.

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And we've been friends ever since. There was a time when I was so busy,

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I kind of like, but one day I talked to Daniel. I said, Daniel, I'm locking back in.

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And I believe I've been locked back in with him ever since. but he came and

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he made a great impact on the young adults and not just the young adults,

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but even some who were older as well.

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And I know we're talking about his book, but Daniel, if you don't mind, tell them about that.

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Well, baby, they actually witnessed with their testimony. Oh yeah.

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Well, you know, that's part of the book too.

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I said, because, you know, we, we don't make disciples in the clue of a classroom. Um,

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And so, one of the very basic things we should do is that we should help,

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you know, get people to write and share their testimony.

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As far as we're taking on members, I said, why would you take on a member of

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a church as a member of your church if they can't articulate how they got saved?

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And so, I help people to articulate that, write it, and then,

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of course, share it, because I talk about how we can, in the church today,

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can we be that Acts 542 church?

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Where it says in that scripture, they never stop teaching and proclaiming that

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Jesus is the Christ. I said, where can we find that church?

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I said, this is one way we can become that Acts 542.

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We just prepare our members to be able to write and share their testimony.

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So they have it in a written form, of course, and we help them share it in an oral form.

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the gospel and within that gospel presentation, share their testimony.

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So it's very powerful. powerful and i said you know and that's something that you

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know i do it in such a way that if they have a team they can

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continue to do it they don't need me to come back every year to do it they can

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do it themselves and take on these new believers and one of the first things

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they should be doing is sharing their testimony right is that because i talked

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about who are the who do these people know when they first get get saved then

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they know a bunch of lost people so you know we should expect that,

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00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:18,986
that we're going to say, hey, you know, let's go ahead and take that person

431
00:30:18,986 --> 00:30:24,066
out and share the person you're going with. They share their testimony.

432
00:30:24,346 --> 00:30:29,626
And then eventually the other person, the newborn believer, will then,

433
00:30:29,626 --> 00:30:33,366
as he understands and sees it at work, then you turn it over to him and say,

434
00:30:33,426 --> 00:30:34,386
okay, go ahead and share.

435
00:30:34,806 --> 00:30:38,026
And so, I mean, that's how it happens. It happens, you know,

436
00:30:38,026 --> 00:30:41,766
one-to-one. It happens life-to-life. And that's how we make disciples.

437
00:30:42,106 --> 00:30:45,446
You know, what Dr. Dozier you're referring to is that, you know,

438
00:30:45,446 --> 00:30:48,826
we get really upset with our education system when we see people,

439
00:30:48,926 --> 00:30:51,826
oh my goodness, they're graduating and they can't even read on an eighth grade level.

440
00:30:52,534 --> 00:30:55,754
But how many of us, as he just talked about, how many of we got people in the

441
00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:57,314
church, you know what I mean?

442
00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:00,374
And they, you know, they couldn't articulate their testimony.

443
00:31:00,694 --> 00:31:04,414
I mean, you know, they never wanted anybody to the Lord. Definitely didn't disciple somebody.

444
00:31:04,674 --> 00:31:08,954
I said, and why do we keep on teaching and preaching, you know,

445
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:12,114
and without the expectation of them actually doing it?

446
00:31:12,274 --> 00:31:15,614
Why would we tell somebody D, E, and F when they haven't done A, B, and C?

447
00:31:16,034 --> 00:31:19,994
It doesn't make sense, you know. So, I'm going to just go ahead and tell everybody,

448
00:31:20,134 --> 00:31:25,114
if this is resonating with you, you can go to sctb.org.

449
00:31:25,774 --> 00:31:29,974
It's Somebody Cares Tampa Bay. You can go onto our website, and there you can

450
00:31:29,974 --> 00:31:31,074
see the book is available.

451
00:31:31,754 --> 00:31:34,634
And there's a special pricing if you get five or more.

452
00:31:35,254 --> 00:31:42,774
I bought 10. Yeah, there you go. So, it's a small book, but I don't— 15. I beat you. 15. Was it 15?

453
00:31:43,514 --> 00:31:51,334
I'm taking five more today. And so the bottom line is this, is that it's very impacting.

454
00:31:52,474 --> 00:31:58,354
Ken Harrison, the CEO of Promise Keepers, had a really powerful forward to it.

455
00:31:58,434 --> 00:32:00,394
But anyway, that's one way you can get the book and so forth.

456
00:32:00,494 --> 00:32:05,174
And as Dr. Dozier said, hey, we'll come in, we'll share, help you to go do those things.

457
00:32:06,154 --> 00:32:09,474
Well, let me guys tell you, I mean, this is why we love Daniel,

458
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:13,414
because I am telling you, you are not going to hear many people that come in

459
00:32:13,414 --> 00:32:14,474
and say what you just said.

460
00:32:14,834 --> 00:32:19,254
He's saying this prophetic word, and this is the same verse that Dr.

461
00:32:19,294 --> 00:32:20,474
Dozier and I have both used.

462
00:32:20,594 --> 00:32:26,014
But again, if the salt has lost its flavor, what does that mean?

463
00:32:26,094 --> 00:32:32,054
If the church is no longer tasty, when you think about is the church today making,

464
00:32:32,154 --> 00:32:36,214
you know, godliness more tasty in our society?

465
00:32:36,274 --> 00:32:38,394
Is it even standing up for any of those things?

466
00:32:38,494 --> 00:32:41,114
There is no way you can make a case, right?

467
00:32:41,214 --> 00:32:48,614
And so we become so focused on the show and the numbers, why there's all these people here.

468
00:32:49,174 --> 00:32:54,134
And just let me show you this. This is, again, this was said to me by a pastor.

469
00:32:54,474 --> 00:32:58,614
We had assault on our DNA conference, and we had one of the best doctors in

470
00:32:58,614 --> 00:32:59,754
the world to talk about that.

471
00:33:00,174 --> 00:33:06,934
And one of the pastors later said to me, well, he's not the greatest speaker.

472
00:33:07,574 --> 00:33:12,834
And I thought to to myself, if you have one of the best experts about what they

473
00:33:12,834 --> 00:33:17,414
put in these vaccines and you expect him to put on a show for you,

474
00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:20,554
that's snobby magazine front cover. Right?

475
00:33:21,594 --> 00:33:24,294
That's what we're getting at. If you don't put on a nice show,

476
00:33:24,414 --> 00:33:27,574
if you're not an excellent, eloquent speaker, think about Moses.

477
00:33:27,854 --> 00:33:34,034
He wrote five books, right? He needed his brother for anybody to basically get

478
00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,374
him because he had this problem with speaking.

479
00:33:36,774 --> 00:33:41,574
And so, again, it's all the glitz, it's all the glamour, it's all the superficial.

480
00:33:41,934 --> 00:33:46,474
And what we're trying to show you today in this show is that if you don't have

481
00:33:46,474 --> 00:33:51,714
fellowship at a church, if you're not being taught at a church,

482
00:33:51,934 --> 00:33:55,894
if you're not growing in your faith, if you're not learning how to make disciples,

483
00:33:56,114 --> 00:34:01,854
your own students, based upon what you know, then you're not really going along

484
00:34:01,854 --> 00:34:07,254
with the proven plan, which means there's a part of the church that's called the church,

485
00:34:07,454 --> 00:34:12,474
but we haven't accepted the fact that it's not a biblical church.

486
00:34:12,714 --> 00:34:17,534
It's not what they were doing back in the original times when this happened.

487
00:34:17,534 --> 00:34:19,614
And so that's why I want to throw this out here.

488
00:34:19,654 --> 00:34:23,794
That's why I'm like, what you're saying today is exactly what we need to hear.

489
00:34:23,854 --> 00:34:29,574
Because if we don't understand the cause, why do we have Christians today that

490
00:34:29,574 --> 00:34:31,034
don't really believe anything?

491
00:34:31,514 --> 00:34:33,914
Right? Almost like Oprah-esque.

492
00:34:35,124 --> 00:34:39,244
Jesus is just one of the ways that you could become, you know,

493
00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:41,164
or get to God, right? Come to heaven, right?

494
00:34:41,284 --> 00:34:46,664
And so this is this watered down, like you said, mile wide, inch deep Christianity

495
00:34:46,664 --> 00:34:48,024
that we've really inherited.

496
00:34:48,324 --> 00:34:52,304
And so that's why what you're saying is so powerful, because guess what, folks?

497
00:34:52,504 --> 00:34:56,204
This is how we get the salt back, right? We have to go deeper.

498
00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:00,724
We have to get to that point where we are following what Jesus did and really

499
00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:05,784
making disciples. And I'll throw this out to you, because I have a few friends

500
00:35:05,784 --> 00:35:08,344
of mine that they really love this discipleship thing.

501
00:35:08,464 --> 00:35:10,504
But then when I, like you say, you talk

502
00:35:10,504 --> 00:35:16,504
about that, I find out that their discipleship, it does not go very deep.

503
00:35:16,804 --> 00:35:19,784
And sometimes it completely negates things.

504
00:35:20,084 --> 00:35:26,464
But the best ones are the ones that actually do start discipling people in something.

505
00:35:26,464 --> 00:35:31,404
So, if I was just to play devil's advocate, right, here's what I would say to

506
00:35:31,404 --> 00:35:33,784
answer some of maybe what could be a critic.

507
00:35:34,424 --> 00:35:38,204
So, Daniel has had a street ministry. I don't know if anybody,

508
00:35:38,444 --> 00:35:40,504
have you ever had a street ministry where you're out there?

509
00:35:40,584 --> 00:35:43,164
Dr. Dozier, did you ever do a street ministry where you're out there just,

510
00:35:43,264 --> 00:35:47,684
you know, you got your foghorn, you got your big sign, whatever it is that you're

511
00:35:47,684 --> 00:35:48,824
doing, you're passing out something.

512
00:35:49,024 --> 00:35:54,804
How did that go? So, I remember, this is going to be kind of humorous.

513
00:35:55,104 --> 00:35:58,444
I remember the, I don't know if it was the first time, but I remember one time

514
00:35:58,444 --> 00:36:02,184
a friend of mine, he and I, we would go to different cities.

515
00:36:02,204 --> 00:36:06,284
And I left here and I went to a city where I grew up.

516
00:36:06,384 --> 00:36:10,164
It was about maybe a hundred and so many miles away from here.

517
00:36:11,144 --> 00:36:15,364
And we linked up with this pastor in the city. But what we wanted to do is we

518
00:36:15,364 --> 00:36:19,684
wanted to go in the park in the daytime to reach people because we realized

519
00:36:19,684 --> 00:36:24,264
that some people are intimidated or fearful about going into an assembly.

520
00:36:24,464 --> 00:36:27,424
So we figured if we could meet them out there in the daytime and then we would

521
00:36:27,424 --> 00:36:30,064
take it to their ministry at night, the people would be more comfortable.

522
00:36:30,924 --> 00:36:37,364
So I remember we were out there and I was I was just heralding this word.

523
00:36:38,044 --> 00:36:41,344
And I saw this guy on his 10 speed bicycle. He was going down the street,

524
00:36:41,404 --> 00:36:44,324
and he was a guy that I went to school with.

525
00:36:44,384 --> 00:36:47,684
As a matter of fact, we graduated the same year. He was on a 10-speed bicycle,

526
00:36:47,884 --> 00:36:53,724
and he was just looking and riding the bike, looking and riding the bike.

527
00:36:53,844 --> 00:36:57,464
And while I'm ministering, I'm saying, I look up ahead, and I see this big oak

528
00:36:57,464 --> 00:37:00,204
tree, and I see his bike swerving.

529
00:37:00,304 --> 00:37:02,864
I said, oh, my goodness, this guy's going to hit this oak tree.

530
00:37:03,344 --> 00:37:06,624
True enough, he's looking while I'm preaching because I guess he's recognizing

531
00:37:06,624 --> 00:37:08,704
who it is because we were on there.

532
00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:11,584
And he's looking and then he hit the oak

533
00:37:11,584 --> 00:37:17,004
tree the back the back of the bike went vertical he went vertical and it went

534
00:37:17,004 --> 00:37:22,064
down and then there was another guy across the street there was like this this

535
00:37:22,064 --> 00:37:25,404
dike you know that's like a little ditch like thing across the street and he

536
00:37:25,404 --> 00:37:30,344
was standing by the palm tree and after there was a sermon preached out of romans 7.

537
00:37:31,605 --> 00:37:37,145
When I will to do that, which I will to do, I do not. And he comes from behind

538
00:37:37,145 --> 00:37:41,825
the oak trellis over, and he came to where we were, and he said, that was me.

539
00:37:42,705 --> 00:37:47,885
And he was a grown man now. I used to teach him when I used to teach Sunday school as a teen.

540
00:37:49,265 --> 00:37:53,905
And he came that night to that place. So, yeah, I've done that.

541
00:37:54,025 --> 00:37:58,605
I did some things in Tampa on Main Street and some of the projects and all of

542
00:37:58,605 --> 00:38:02,485
that. And I'm going to be honest with you, you'll be surprised that when you're

543
00:38:02,485 --> 00:38:05,445
out there doing that type of ministry, you'll be surprised.

544
00:38:06,085 --> 00:38:12,645
I don't want to, it could take a lot of time, but you'll be surprised at what God will do through you.

545
00:38:13,065 --> 00:38:19,285
I mean, you will know that his presence is there, some of the things that happen.

546
00:38:19,405 --> 00:38:22,605
So, yes, I've done that. Daniel, tell us about street ministry.

547
00:38:23,185 --> 00:38:27,085
Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, I'll tell you just quite honestly,

548
00:38:27,345 --> 00:38:31,985
I'd go, my wife would, we'd get some bread and we'd go into the projects,

549
00:38:32,225 --> 00:38:36,165
you know, and I mean, I had African-American pastors that I ain't going there.

550
00:38:36,685 --> 00:38:41,045
I ain't, you know, but, you know, when I, when I got, you know,

551
00:38:41,065 --> 00:38:44,425
baptized in the Holy Spirit, I began to open up the word of God.

552
00:38:44,505 --> 00:38:48,165
And I said, well, what, what'd they do when they got baptized in the Holy Spirit or the church?

553
00:38:48,325 --> 00:38:50,685
And so I saw them, you know, they're preaching every day.

554
00:38:50,925 --> 00:38:53,565
And I said, well, what can I preach every day? you know and i

555
00:38:53,565 --> 00:38:56,445
knew that because of restrictions and so forth i

556
00:38:56,445 --> 00:38:59,085
couldn't i could well you know what i can go to the projects and i

557
00:38:59,085 --> 00:39:02,105
went i went to the projects i went in front of bars and uh

558
00:39:02,105 --> 00:39:06,665
was preaching and you know and i was preaching a message and so forth and you

559
00:39:06,665 --> 00:39:11,705
know finally i came back i got on my face in my kitchen in brian texas i'll

560
00:39:11,705 --> 00:39:17,665
never forget this is that i said god you know on him oh you know i was getting

561
00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:21,665
like zero reaction right so right God, we've got to make them mad or make them glad.

562
00:39:21,905 --> 00:39:25,385
I don't care if they hate me. Give me something. I need a reaction.

563
00:39:26,265 --> 00:39:27,465
And there it is.

564
00:39:28,365 --> 00:39:36,325
No one is justified by the law. They're all guilty.

565
00:39:36,785 --> 00:39:39,245
That's right. And I was going like, oh, God.

566
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:43,997
Wow, the Ten Commandments. So this was before I even met Ray Comfort.

567
00:39:44,257 --> 00:39:47,437
Right. It was like a year later I met Ray Comfort, so I started going.

568
00:39:47,977 --> 00:39:51,157
You know, we went door to door. I got my church to go door to door,

569
00:39:51,197 --> 00:39:54,757
and just using the Ten Commandments as a survey.

570
00:39:54,937 --> 00:39:57,977
We were just wondering the average knowledge of the average person,

571
00:39:58,077 --> 00:40:02,157
whether they knew the Ten Commandments and whether or not they obeyed them.

572
00:40:02,217 --> 00:40:05,877
You don't mind if we ask you, Ten Quokkistians, do you know the First Commandment,

573
00:40:05,877 --> 00:40:11,897
and have you obeyed it? And so I would preach the Ten Commandments, too, out there.

574
00:40:12,057 --> 00:40:15,077
So then I started getting some real reaction. You did.

575
00:40:15,557 --> 00:40:20,797
Because they don't know, quite frankly, you have a lot of lost people,

576
00:40:20,857 --> 00:40:23,237
even in the projects. They can quote Scripture.

577
00:40:23,697 --> 00:40:28,577
They know Scripture. They've been around the religiosity enough that they can know.

578
00:40:28,657 --> 00:40:32,857
See, but what's the difference is, even the devil believes and trembles.

579
00:40:32,857 --> 00:40:39,417
So you can know and you have that head knowledge, but they haven't put it into action, right?

580
00:40:39,557 --> 00:40:41,997
They haven't activated that knowledge.

581
00:40:42,297 --> 00:40:46,857
And so that's the same thing. That's why they're not a follower of Jesus. They're not a disciple.

582
00:40:47,177 --> 00:40:50,637
And so, yes, I mean, we would take guys in off the streets.

583
00:40:50,997 --> 00:40:56,417
We would take them literally into our home, which is kind of crazy,

584
00:40:56,577 --> 00:40:57,817
but most people wouldn't do that.

585
00:40:57,897 --> 00:41:00,477
But we had a bunch of guys in our home, and we filled up our home.

586
00:41:00,477 --> 00:41:03,417
Then we rented the house across the street and filled up that house, too.

587
00:41:04,737 --> 00:41:09,657
And just something a little funny. So one guy, he's a Hispanic guy named Martin.

588
00:41:09,857 --> 00:41:12,977
And all these guys were either had been in the county jail or,

589
00:41:12,997 --> 00:41:15,897
you know, on drug and taking them all in. It was just crazy.

590
00:41:16,277 --> 00:41:18,697
And I'm not saying that, you know, in other words, hey, guys,

591
00:41:18,777 --> 00:41:20,917
I'm saying that. I don't expect everybody to do that.

592
00:41:20,997 --> 00:41:24,137
That's not what I mean by making a disciple in the book, okay?

593
00:41:24,137 --> 00:41:29,997
I'm talking about just getting another brother and mentoring that brother and

594
00:41:29,997 --> 00:41:32,017
willing to have that discipleship relationship.

595
00:41:32,497 --> 00:41:35,917
That's what's in the book. But because I know this could be like out there and

596
00:41:35,917 --> 00:41:37,757
not everybody can do these kind of things. Yeah.

597
00:41:38,699 --> 00:41:43,039
But I tell you, let's go on with the story. So we're all sitting around the table.

598
00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:47,179
And so I go around and I start asking him, well, how do you know that God's changed your life?

599
00:41:47,699 --> 00:41:50,799
And Martine says, well, I know

600
00:41:50,799 --> 00:41:54,659
God has changed my life because I haven't stole anything from you yet.

601
00:41:56,259 --> 00:42:00,259
I looked at him and said, honey, hide the keys to the car. Oh,

602
00:42:00,259 --> 00:42:02,799
my goodness. Don't tempt the poor boy.

603
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,799
Anyway, it's just funny. But, yeah, you know, I mean, that was our part of,

604
00:42:07,799 --> 00:42:09,239
you know, street preaching and so forth.

605
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,059
And, you know, it's – you know, and quite frankly, you know,

606
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:17,279
that was mission work for sure. You know, but really cutting your teeth on that.

607
00:42:17,499 --> 00:42:22,099
And I raised a bunch of guys up in that. You know, it just so happened that,

608
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:26,179
you know, a guy named Clint Matthews, he was one of the leaders at the Baptist

609
00:42:26,179 --> 00:42:27,719
Student Union at Texas A&M University.

610
00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:31,099
Wow. And God had done a work in his life, and he's going like,

611
00:42:31,179 --> 00:42:35,639
I want to find somebody in the city that's like reaching out and doing,

612
00:42:35,779 --> 00:42:39,379
and he's calling around, asking all these pastors.

613
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:44,939
And he said, and they kept on saying, the only guy we know to do that is Daniel Bernard.

614
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,459
So he ended up calling me, and he hooked up, and we've basically,

615
00:42:50,999 --> 00:42:54,519
I didn't win him to the Lord, but basically he's been my adopted son.

616
00:42:54,899 --> 00:42:58,579
Wow, that's exciting. up to this day. In fact, he's helping.

617
00:42:58,699 --> 00:43:03,139
He went to Nigeria with me. He's giving a little money for us in this trip as

618
00:43:03,139 --> 00:43:04,779
well. So it's great, man.

619
00:43:04,959 --> 00:43:10,779
So that's the best. When you have an impartation like that, they're long-lasting relationships.

620
00:43:11,699 --> 00:43:16,079
It's the real deal. So I just want to encourage you to get involved.

621
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,339
And you also, is that what kind of helped you lead you to actually do missionary

622
00:43:20,339 --> 00:43:21,799
work to other countries then?

623
00:43:22,819 --> 00:43:26,919
Yeah, of course. Because what I did, I just, I took what I was doing in Bryan,

624
00:43:27,019 --> 00:43:29,259
Texas, and I just translated that to Nigeria.

625
00:43:29,619 --> 00:43:33,379
Right. I mean, I was down at the river.

626
00:43:34,306 --> 00:43:39,646
And the guys were, you know, when they make bricks, what they do, they have buckets.

627
00:43:39,806 --> 00:43:44,346
They dive down and gather the sand from the bottom of the floor of the river.

628
00:43:44,606 --> 00:43:47,726
They bring it up. I mean, they're swimming and they bring it up.

629
00:43:47,766 --> 00:43:51,326
They hand it to the guy in the boat. The guy in the boat dumps it into a big basket.

630
00:43:51,726 --> 00:43:54,946
And then they come, once they filled the baskets up on this boat,

631
00:43:55,066 --> 00:43:56,886
then they bring the boat to shore.

632
00:43:57,066 --> 00:44:01,046
They take the baskets and they pour them onto the shore.

633
00:44:01,286 --> 00:44:03,766
And with that sand, they make bricks.

634
00:44:04,306 --> 00:44:11,006
So I went down there. I was down there at the shore and saw several boats doing that.

635
00:44:11,166 --> 00:44:14,326
And so I began to preach and say, hey, you know what?

636
00:44:14,866 --> 00:44:20,226
You're carrying that big thing of sand. I said, that's like the burden of sin.

637
00:44:20,706 --> 00:44:24,966
I said, you can let that burden of sin go. And my first convert,

638
00:44:25,146 --> 00:44:32,646
assurance, he left the basket and he came and got on his knees and gave his life to the Lord.

639
00:44:33,186 --> 00:44:36,566
He's pastoring now, right? Is that the same one? Oh, yeah. He's a church planter.

640
00:44:36,786 --> 00:44:39,986
Yeah, wow. Yeah, and he's just now coming back into our ministry,

641
00:44:40,146 --> 00:44:42,006
but he was with it for some time.

642
00:44:42,026 --> 00:44:45,146
Then he went off to be with the Assemblies, has been a church planter.

643
00:44:45,686 --> 00:44:50,166
Recently, he's planted six churches among the EGO, and so he's a church planter,

644
00:44:50,246 --> 00:44:52,646
and he brought Wilson into the ministry.

645
00:44:52,846 --> 00:44:57,206
Wow. He brought Wilson into the ministry, and Wilson had been to church.

646
00:44:57,706 --> 00:45:01,226
He'd been to the name and acclaim at churches, the prosperity churches.

647
00:45:01,226 --> 00:45:04,126
Churches and so when he heard me speak the law

648
00:45:04,126 --> 00:45:07,146
it was like oh i've never heard this

649
00:45:07,146 --> 00:45:09,946
in my life he wasn't even sure like is this a cult or something

650
00:45:09,946 --> 00:45:15,166
you know he was but you know if you knew wilson wilson really is a deep thinker

651
00:45:15,166 --> 00:45:18,806
and he really processes things and it took him several days when he finally

652
00:45:18,806 --> 00:45:23,866
came and he said man this this law thing is it's brought me to i'm undone you

653
00:45:23,866 --> 00:45:28,106
know he said and he thoroughly repented and gave his life to the lord and so you know of Of course,

654
00:45:28,126 --> 00:45:30,906
he became the general overseer of our high-impact Christian centers.

655
00:45:31,126 --> 00:45:35,586
I remember when, it was a couple decades ago, but you brought Wilson here and

656
00:45:35,586 --> 00:45:36,626
he came over to the church.

657
00:45:37,066 --> 00:45:44,366
And this is just to give you all some insight on the powerful anointing that

658
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:48,806
God has placed on Daniel's life to let you know what happens in the lives of these people.

659
00:45:48,866 --> 00:45:54,386
Around the world, people still do practice idolatry and pagan worship.

660
00:45:54,906 --> 00:46:00,906
And Wilson came here and he ministered at our ministry. He preached at our ministry, but he had a box.

661
00:46:01,979 --> 00:46:10,099
And in this box, he had pictures and the pictures were of the gods,

662
00:46:10,279 --> 00:46:12,719
which I know gods that they had that they burned.

663
00:46:13,059 --> 00:46:19,719
And he also had pieces of wood that were broken, that were gods that they worship.

664
00:46:19,799 --> 00:46:23,019
He told me that his father worshiped the god of iron or something like that,

665
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,999
but the gods that they worship. So these people, a number of these people that

666
00:46:27,999 --> 00:46:33,659
are now pastors and believers, these people had pagan practices.

667
00:46:33,779 --> 00:46:37,139
They were heathens and they worshipped false gods.

668
00:46:37,259 --> 00:46:39,819
They made their own gods. They built their own gods.

669
00:46:40,059 --> 00:46:46,179
And now these people are serving the true and living God and winning other souls over to Christ.

670
00:46:46,619 --> 00:46:52,619
So there is great reward in what Daniel was doing and even going to his book.

671
00:46:52,619 --> 00:46:58,999
Book, if I were to give an endorsement, I would say this is a book from decades of experience,

672
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:05,139
in evangelism, in soul winning, and I don't care what he is,

673
00:47:05,219 --> 00:47:06,359
he's going to try to do it.

674
00:47:06,439 --> 00:47:12,179
It just came to my mind when we were in Lagos and we were going to that hotel,

675
00:47:13,319 --> 00:47:17,619
there was a cab driver there and Wilson was telling us to be careful about what

676
00:47:17,619 --> 00:47:20,739
we say because they take your information and they do this and they'll get your phone.

677
00:47:20,739 --> 00:47:27,079
So we're sitting in the cab and Daniel starts telling this story.

678
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,779
And I said, OK, he's setting this guy up.

679
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:35,499
And then when Daniel finishes and the guy answers the question,

680
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:37,499
I'm just going to get it was in it was in this vein.

681
00:47:37,959 --> 00:47:40,359
So Daniel says something like this. He says, so you're a thief,

682
00:47:40,419 --> 00:47:42,019
you're a robber, you're a liar, you're this, you're that, you're that,

683
00:47:42,019 --> 00:47:42,519
you're that, you're that.

684
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,659
And Daniel's telling him how he's violated. I said, oh, goodness.

685
00:47:47,699 --> 00:47:53,079
And so by the time we pull up, Wilson goes in to check us in.

686
00:47:53,659 --> 00:47:57,879
The cab driver, the Nigerian cab driver, I don't know what tribe he was.

687
00:47:57,899 --> 00:47:58,999
They know their tribes. That's what I'm saying.

688
00:47:59,059 --> 00:48:04,419
The cab driver, he has his hands up in the car. car.

689
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:11,999
Daniel is leading this guy to Christ that we just met.

690
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,639
And then Daniel's, and if you need to reach me, here's my number.

691
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,559
And Wilson's just shaking his head when he talks to me. I told Daniel,

692
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:20,779
you don't live here, give it to me with your numbers.

693
00:48:21,059 --> 00:48:24,919
But Daniel trusts God. He's telling this cab driver who lives almost 8,000 miles

694
00:48:24,919 --> 00:48:29,279
away, 7,500, so many miles away, you just call me at this number if you need anything.

695
00:48:29,539 --> 00:48:33,519
So I don't care where it is, what time of day it is, whether he knows you or

696
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:41,839
not, Daniel is going to move to lead you to Christ.

697
00:48:41,879 --> 00:48:47,759
And that is something that I have recognized about him. That's something that I admire.

698
00:48:48,827 --> 00:48:52,487
When it comes to Daniel. Didn't you even mention the other day,

699
00:48:52,527 --> 00:48:56,707
he was a little older than you and still how amazing he is just like pushing on.

700
00:48:57,667 --> 00:49:02,447
I'm like, this guy's getting, we were supposed to go to the Bush about 27 years

701
00:49:02,447 --> 00:49:05,247
ago, but at that time they were having the election.

702
00:49:05,347 --> 00:49:08,347
Remember that Daniel? So the, the president didn't want to let us come over

703
00:49:08,347 --> 00:49:09,187
there. He didn't feel it was safe.

704
00:49:09,267 --> 00:49:12,387
He was looking out for us, but not one of my past pastor friends.

705
00:49:12,467 --> 00:49:14,007
He's going to know I'm talking about. I'm going to bring him up.

706
00:49:14,047 --> 00:49:17,127
I was trying to get him all charged up next trip for the trip.

707
00:49:17,487 --> 00:49:19,907
I said, yeah, we're going to, I said, we're going to preach to God.

708
00:49:19,967 --> 00:49:22,247
He said, yeah. I said, we're going to get these souls saved.

709
00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:24,207
Yeah. I said, and the heathen, yeah.

710
00:49:24,807 --> 00:49:28,007
I said, and we're going to get on those boats, and we're going back in the bush,

711
00:49:28,087 --> 00:49:31,187
and we're going to win the Eshaw's. He said, the devil is alive.

712
00:49:33,867 --> 00:49:37,487
He was fine with the city, but he wasn't going back in the bush.

713
00:49:37,567 --> 00:49:38,847
I said, we're going back in the bush.

714
00:49:38,987 --> 00:49:42,227
We're going to go back there, and we're going to get those Eshaw's saved.

715
00:49:43,367 --> 00:49:47,327
The devil is alive. Pastor Doge, you want to come back here with that big body

716
00:49:47,327 --> 00:49:50,727
and have a little head, Oh, my God.

717
00:49:51,967 --> 00:49:54,747
Oh, did I get a laugh out of that one. Just so you know, obviously,

718
00:49:54,827 --> 00:49:58,027
if you go on a missions trip with either of these guys, trash talking for the

719
00:49:58,027 --> 00:50:00,127
rest of your life is fair game. Fair game.

720
00:50:00,607 --> 00:50:04,047
We were riding back when we got ready to leave. And I prayed,

721
00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:06,927
you know, because there are a lot of, the potholes are big. We don't think here.

722
00:50:07,027 --> 00:50:08,587
I mean, really almost think craters.

723
00:50:08,887 --> 00:50:12,627
Because you can go down, like, and then come back up. And you can see trucks

724
00:50:12,627 --> 00:50:14,987
flipped over on the side of the road. They may have been there for months.

725
00:50:15,127 --> 00:50:19,927
This is no exaggeration, is it, Daniel? No. And you don't really see the police, but I prayed.

726
00:50:20,507 --> 00:50:23,947
And then while we're driving, while we're driving, because they're constantly

727
00:50:23,947 --> 00:50:26,287
honking the horn, like something you see in the movie.

728
00:50:26,827 --> 00:50:31,787
And that's in the South, though. The North is pretty much Muslim controlled

729
00:50:31,787 --> 00:50:34,567
and the government is pretty much, and I might as well say it.

730
00:50:35,747 --> 00:50:39,107
It's a lot better as far as that. But the South is mainly Christian.

731
00:50:40,427 --> 00:50:44,567
And it's not because the Christians don't want it, but it's just not fair. Let me put it that way.

732
00:50:45,067 --> 00:50:50,307
But anyway, we're driving back, and I prayed, Lord, give us safe traveling.

733
00:50:50,787 --> 00:50:57,527
And all of a sudden, Daniel says, can we pray? I said, Daniel, you already prayed.

734
00:50:58,387 --> 00:51:02,727
Daniel said, well, another prayer won't hurt. Now you said, Lord,

735
00:51:02,987 --> 00:51:05,807
give Wilson the sermon to see the potholes.

736
00:51:07,787 --> 00:51:12,207
No, we get home safe. Oh, my goodness. That's true. It's dangerous, man.

737
00:51:12,667 --> 00:51:15,747
Well, I took Daniel down this road.

738
00:51:15,827 --> 00:51:19,127
I wanted the listeners to realize that when you talk about Daniel Bernard,

739
00:51:19,367 --> 00:51:21,387
you're talking a guy who's been on the streets.

740
00:51:21,647 --> 00:51:24,447
He's been there. Okay. He has been all over the world.

741
00:51:24,527 --> 00:51:29,847
He's been into the bush to put out the gospel. He is all about saving souls.

742
00:51:30,367 --> 00:51:37,147
But he is telling us that there's something missing, and this something missing is the discipleship.

743
00:51:37,207 --> 00:51:41,667
So even though he is trying to get souls saved, he is sharing that gospel,

744
00:51:41,847 --> 00:51:47,447
he knows that there's something that's deeper that we are also called to do,

745
00:51:47,487 --> 00:51:49,267
and that is to make these disciples.

746
00:51:49,607 --> 00:51:52,807
And so as we kind of end up here, I want to throw it back to you, Daniel.

747
00:51:53,227 --> 00:51:56,567
This is why we were like jumping to get you on the show today,

748
00:51:56,727 --> 00:52:00,887
because we believe you're You're the perfect example of what we're talking about

749
00:52:00,887 --> 00:52:04,087
and how you're bringing this aspect to light.

750
00:52:04,187 --> 00:52:12,427
And really, even in a prophetic way, that if we don't do this the way God says, it's not gonna work.

751
00:52:13,247 --> 00:52:16,307
And that's what we're also have to face, that something's not working.

752
00:52:16,467 --> 00:52:23,407
The church has become lukewarm. The church is just devouring milk.

753
00:52:24,693 --> 00:52:29,793
We can see the complete focus on the superficial, the numbers,

754
00:52:30,033 --> 00:52:34,153
the beauty, the performance, the entertainment value, you know,

755
00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:36,633
and rather than focusing on the truth.

756
00:52:36,873 --> 00:52:41,053
And so I just want to give you the last few words to kind of sum up.

757
00:52:41,273 --> 00:52:44,713
I appreciate that. And just remember that it's life to life and that the whole,

758
00:52:44,833 --> 00:52:48,493
you know, get the book, but don't go running to your pastor and say, pastor,

759
00:52:48,673 --> 00:52:53,513
you know, let's, I will tell you that The pastors that are getting it,

760
00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:58,773
they're buying it in bulk and getting it to their men. The principles are for men and women.

761
00:52:58,953 --> 00:53:02,893
So even though the focus and maybe the language is a little bit more towards

762
00:53:02,893 --> 00:53:05,273
the men, it's for both genders, obviously.

763
00:53:05,513 --> 00:53:10,873
Does that mean Kathy read it? Did she approve it? She did. She's lived it.

764
00:53:12,033 --> 00:53:15,393
Kathy's the other author of the book, folks. So, but, you know,

765
00:53:15,413 --> 00:53:18,733
just, you know, listen, win somebody to the Lord and really,

766
00:53:18,833 --> 00:53:21,253
you know, don't hand them off to a church.

767
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:25,213
You impart to them what God has given you. It's not that hard.

768
00:53:25,453 --> 00:53:28,373
You know, get together with them and pray together.

769
00:53:28,573 --> 00:53:32,153
Show them, you know, get together with them. And, you know, as they're reading

770
00:53:32,153 --> 00:53:35,613
the Gospels and so forth, then sit down and just talk with them.

771
00:53:36,373 --> 00:53:39,393
What is it that you don't understand? What is it that you like about this?

772
00:53:39,473 --> 00:53:42,153
How do you see, you know, what does this tell you about God?

773
00:53:42,313 --> 00:53:43,393
What does this tell you about people?

774
00:53:43,913 --> 00:53:49,853
So, I talk about being fat, faithful, available, accountable, and teachable.

775
00:53:50,213 --> 00:53:54,053
So, again, the accountability part is, okay, you read this, you heard this,

776
00:53:54,173 --> 00:53:56,933
what is God saying for you to do about it?

777
00:53:57,133 --> 00:54:01,973
And hold people accountable doing just that. So, it's nothing much more than

778
00:54:01,973 --> 00:54:06,713
that, what it is that you do as a Christian, how can you help that other person,

779
00:54:06,833 --> 00:54:10,193
impart that to another person from one life to another?

780
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:15,993
And that's what discipleship is. And so I just want to challenge you and encourage you to do that.

781
00:54:16,233 --> 00:54:20,653
And as you continue to do that, see that multiply among you guys.

782
00:54:20,753 --> 00:54:24,033
And if you can do that as a group, then it's even more encouraging.

783
00:54:24,273 --> 00:54:28,893
And then eventually your pastors are going to say, wow, I didn't know I was

784
00:54:28,893 --> 00:54:32,233
raising up all these mighty men of God. Amen. Amen. Amen.

785
00:54:33,053 --> 00:54:39,653
I want to say something, and I'm saying this to encourage young people,

786
00:54:39,733 --> 00:54:43,393
because everything that Daniel's saying, that's an excellent example.

787
00:54:43,413 --> 00:54:47,873
In truth, even though I met Daniel in 1997, I probably would have liked to have

788
00:54:47,873 --> 00:54:49,853
met him about five or six years earlier.

789
00:54:51,293 --> 00:54:54,633
Before I passed, I was telling you, and it just came to my mind a few minutes

790
00:54:54,633 --> 00:54:58,133
ago, and I wanted to share this, but I was living in Tampa then,

791
00:54:58,173 --> 00:54:59,073
and I was living in an apartment.

792
00:54:59,113 --> 00:55:02,293
It wasn't in a bad That area was a pretty decent area.

793
00:55:03,808 --> 00:55:08,568
But there were people who would come in that community and they would break

794
00:55:08,568 --> 00:55:14,768
the windows out of the vacant apartments.

795
00:55:15,588 --> 00:55:18,408
And I had a friend that the friend I was doing evangelism with,

796
00:55:18,528 --> 00:55:23,288
we went to the managers in the complex because we didn't like what was happening.

797
00:55:24,628 --> 00:55:27,488
And we said that we wanted to do something. thing.

798
00:55:27,788 --> 00:55:32,368
So the complex, they supplied the plywood, the four by eight sheets,

799
00:55:32,568 --> 00:55:38,328
and we got the drill and the screws and we boarded up on these windows and it's a nice complex.

800
00:55:39,028 --> 00:55:43,608
But what we started doing, we started going apartment to apartment,

801
00:55:43,868 --> 00:55:48,168
talking to these people, sitting down as we were talking to them.

802
00:55:48,588 --> 00:55:55,108
And here's what happened. What happened was the manager allowed us to use the the clubhouse.

803
00:55:55,368 --> 00:55:59,888
And on Tuesday nights and Friday nights, we would fill it up.

804
00:55:59,948 --> 00:56:04,128
We would get about 50 or so people, 50 or more people every Tuesday night,

805
00:56:04,188 --> 00:56:06,668
Friday night. I wasn't pastoring then.

806
00:56:07,148 --> 00:56:11,028
And then we brought this other guy along. And as he was looking at this,

807
00:56:11,208 --> 00:56:16,268
because we would, we had a musician that would play, but we had churches that we went to on Sundays.

808
00:56:17,668 --> 00:56:24,888
He decided that he wanted to start a ministry, and he was focused on a name.

809
00:56:25,408 --> 00:56:29,188
There was another person who had wanted to use this place a long time ago,

810
00:56:29,208 --> 00:56:30,628
got permission, but they never did anything.

811
00:56:31,088 --> 00:56:34,588
But now that they saw the people coming, now they wanted to.

812
00:56:35,148 --> 00:56:37,468
I lived there. These other two didn't.

813
00:56:38,088 --> 00:56:41,988
They got on the beef. It ended up going to the apartment manager.

814
00:56:42,188 --> 00:56:43,268
It went to the apartment manager.

815
00:56:43,788 --> 00:56:46,928
I was embarrassed. I was ashamed. I wasn't there when they went there,

816
00:56:47,068 --> 00:56:50,428
but department manager talked with me and department manager said,

817
00:56:50,628 --> 00:56:53,808
you're supposed to be in the church. If the church is like this,

818
00:56:53,868 --> 00:56:55,928
maybe I shouldn't let anybody use it.

819
00:56:56,288 --> 00:56:59,788
And eventually it went down. Now, here's where I'm going.

820
00:57:00,408 --> 00:57:06,768
At that time, I'm going to be honest with you. I lack a little confidence in what I was doing.

821
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,860
Which I didn't realize it was great that I wasn't looking at myself.

822
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,600
The problem was the lack of the confidence in what God was doing.

823
00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:20,720
And I was passing it over to somebody to hit it instead of me,

824
00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:24,700
even though the favor was given to me with the place.

825
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,160
We ended up with nothing. But here's what I want to say.

826
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:33,440
Just because God uses you to win souls and you see it being effective,

827
00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:37,760
it doesn't mean that you are supposed to start pastoring.

828
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:39,880
Or look to start a church.

829
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:46,680
Take them where you are or to a church that's near that you know is lined up

830
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,720
with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

831
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:55,920
Do that. And also, if God graces you to do something, have confidence in him

832
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,580
and don't pass the work on that God has given to you to somebody else.

833
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Yes, others can work with you, but don't pass the work on that God has given

834
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,840
to you to somebody Because if God has given it to you and somebody else tries to take it,

835
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,200
or even if you try to pass it to somebody else because you look at them in a certain way,

836
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:22,120
don't expect it to be successful as it should be or if at all.

837
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:27,260
Because that's what God decided he wanted to do. God willed that he was going

838
00:58:27,260 --> 00:58:29,520
to use you for a certain reason.

839
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,740
I learned that lesson. It was painful. And I'll be honest, if I had to do all

840
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:36,460
over again, I would have never done it that way.

841
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,140
But when I look at the work that Daniel has done, people work with him,

842
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:45,020
but he's never given it over to somebody else.

843
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:51,500
And I believe that is why the success is there, because he is doing the will of God.

844
00:58:52,580 --> 00:58:59,260
And so we are talking about today the proven plan by dr Daniel and kathy bernard,

845
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,760
of course the forward is written by ken harrison Who's the chairman of promise keepers?

846
00:59:03,860 --> 00:59:07,820
But i'm looking in this book here and we have a testimony by lucas miles who

847
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:11,520
wrote woke jesus Which we just talked a lot about on the podcast lieutenant

848
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,620
colonel alan b west We have dr.

849
00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:19,940
Joseph matera We have bishop von mclaughlin We have Dr.

850
00:59:20,140 --> 00:59:23,420
Terry Tickle, who we just got to hear at a pastor's meeting,

851
00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:26,020
which is, he is quite the character, I'll tell you.

852
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,260
We have Damian Gerke, and we also have Doug Stringer, who actually is the founder

853
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:35,300
and president of Somebody Cares Tampa Bay America. And we have Richard Green.

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And so quite a number of people that have recommended this book.

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The reason we're recommending it is because we've been talking about this hole

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in the the church today that somehow we're calling it church.

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But it shouldn't really be called church because we're missing these ingredients.

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And so that's why we wanted to have Daniel on today to really bring this out

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and put your finger on it.

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And he has been so involved in evangelism and winning souls.

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But he realizes that if we don't have the back door covered.

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See, we're talking about we got a big front door, but we got just as big of

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a back door to the church. And the reason they won't go out the back door,

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folks, is because they have become disciples of Jesus Christ, not even you and I.

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But the good news is, is it's the relationship you have with them,

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that life on life, that's going to help them to realize that there is a personable

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God and that this all happens through relationship.

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So, Daniel, any last words? And then also go ahead and pray us out for today.

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Well, you know, again, let me just encourage you that you can get the book by

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going to our website, Somebody Cares, Tampa Bay, www.sctb.org.

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And, of course, if you need to and have any questions, just give us a call at

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our office, 727-536-2273.

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Spells care. So, yes, I just want to, you know, just one last thing,

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you know, Paul told Timothy, he said, what you have seen and heard of me in

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the presence of many witnesses, commit that of faithful men so they might be

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able to teach others also.

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There's four generations in that statement. Wow. There's Paul,

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there's Timothy, the faithful men, and the others.

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And one of the chapters is devoted to, they call it, you know,

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your spiritual family tree. tree.

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We all, you know, can go in, what do they call it, to ancestors.com,

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and you can go see your biological family tree.

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But this is where you chart your own family tree. And if you don't have a disciple

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in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you know, today, because there's so many orphans

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out there, you don't even have to win them to the Lord, you know,

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but because there's people out there who are just orphans, and just through

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our, you know, mass evangelism and so forth, people will come to Christ,

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and they don't have any relationship, anyone to really mentor them. them.

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So I just want to challenge it. Go out and start your own family tree.

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If you don't have any right now, start that spiritual family tree,

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that kind of heritage and ancestry in the Lord.

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That'd be a powerful thing because again, Paul told us, he says, it is those people.

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Those people are your crown. They're your joy.

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They're your reward at the coming of the Lord. And go back and connect with

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some of those people that have been discipling you and stay connected to them

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because that's That's going to help you continue that family tree. Yeah, absolutely.

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So it means just, you know, you don't have to wait on your pastor.

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You know, is that the fact of the matter is that, you know, he can only really

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disciple so many people himself.

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That's true. So, you know, I've got an actual whole chapter dedicated to talk

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about, you know, what would be the right –.

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Structure in order for that discipleship to take place in

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a church right we have a whole pastor pastor murphy

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who had a 7 000 member church and he

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decided that i'm not making disciples so you

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know what he did he turned it over he shut it down to

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start getting small and started some smaller churches

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that where they made disciples yeah and you

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know you know we have it backwards jesus poured himself

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into a few and to gather the

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many we'd gather the many to help find a few disciples disciples

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yeah we do it just the opposite of what jesus did so

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amen guys just let's turn this thing around and let's

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go make some disciples who are you know who who can really then impact our communities

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for christ amen amen go ahead and pray for us daniel heavenly father we just

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thank you we praise you god for showing us the way lord you told us to how to

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do it lord we just come up with with our own creative ideas, and Lord,

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out of really the deceitfulness of our own hearts, Lord, we think somehow that

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we got a better plan, and we got a better way.

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And yet, God, we find ourselves, Lord, as we're finding the church in America today, boy,

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it looked good on the outside, but man, we're not really producing people who

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will impact their culture.

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And so we have to look at what we're producing. And so, Lord,

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as we do that, Lord, help us to get just back to that simple formula that you

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exemplified with the 12 disciples and that we can implement,

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Lord, if we're just willing to die to ourselves, humble ourselves before you.

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And, Lord, I know that you're going to answer the prayer of those who are hearing

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right now who said, Lord, I want to disciple others because I know that,

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Lord, you want them to disciple others more than they want to.

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And so I know you'll answer that prayer for them to find a disciple,

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win somebody to the Lord and become that disciple, or if their heart is ready to do that.

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And Lord, when they have that heart, they might not have all the how-tos right

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now, but Lord, if somebody has a heart too, I know you'll direct them to the how-to.

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So Lord, we just pray that right now. And Lord, give them a heart to follow

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the proven plan and to make disciples who will make disciples.

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In Jesus' name. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Amen. And Daniel,

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thanks for making it easy.

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Have all of us as singles. You can get magnets, stickers, you name it.

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It's all available on our Redbubble shop.

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I will be posting a link to that in our show notes for the last few episodes

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and from this point forward.

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If you have any questions about anything you want to contact us,

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you can do so at supernaturaljunkies at gmail.com. Thanks, guys.

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Music.