81. Prophets With Teeth

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In this episode of What the Prophets Say with myself, Emma Stark and Sam Robertson, we are

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continuing our mini-series looking at the prophetic movement. We're in breath too.

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Prophets with teeth. Join us for this episode of What the Prophets Say.

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Hello loyal listeners and welcome to another episode of What the Prophets Say with me, Emma

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Stark and Mr. Sam Robertson. Samuel. It's not even Samuel. Sam Robertson. Do you remember

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when I asked people to offer suggestions for your middle name? Yes. People did. They did.

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They were very hilarious. They're very hilarious. I'm not sure if we go with any of them. No,

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let's not go with anything. Just Sam Robertson. It's fine. How are you today, Sam? Yes, I

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am well. But my name is just Sam Robertson. It is just Sam Robertson. No middle name.

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Not just Sam. The Sam Robertson. Well, the Sam Robertson. But in the secondary school

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I went to, there were seven of us. All with the same name. No. It was brilliant because

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when I was slightly naughty, you could get away with being late because other people

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got the late notification. But seven Sam Robertsons in the one school. Can you believe that?

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I'm sure you never got a late mark a day in your life. Do you know I held the record in

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one year for being late? I live five minutes away. But I changed that. I reformed when

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I turned 15. No. Yeah. No, I don't think of you as a late person at all. I was not. I

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was earlier. I think of my dad as a late person. He's late for his own sermon that he preaches.

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He's hilarious. He goes to his own time. It is John Hansford time. Yes. Absolutely. Yes.

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Can I ask how many days were you late? Do you remember?

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Almost every day of the calendar year for school. I don't know if it's something to

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be proud of or not. Maybe I need. The problem was as well, my secondary school teacher was

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best pals to my mum. So I never got away with anything like that. No. Yeah. So dangerous.

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I'm fairly sure your mother would have been shouting out the sayers. Sam Robertson, get

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ready for school. Well, the problem, they used to leave early for work. So they never

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knew. There we go. And then you turned over a new leaf. And I turned over a new leaf and

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then I freak out if we're potentially going to be late. What changed? Well, the glory of

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God. The glory of God. Oh, Jesus. It was sort of Jesus. And then I left school and then

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went into ministry and that changed. And then I just loved what I did. So I was going to

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be early because I was excited. Well, that's good. Okay. Well, we're in this mini series.

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This is session three of our mini series looking at the development of the prophetic movement.

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Now, as you will recall, loyal listeners, from the previous session, we were starting

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to feel our way around these three breaths or three stages within the prophetic movement.

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And you'll need to listen to the last one if you didn't catch it. But really, we are

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wrestling with the with the third breath and we're catching you up as best we can. We're

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in Ezekiel. Do you want to recapture breath one and then lead us into the explanation

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of breath two?

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So breath one really from Ezekiel 37. That's the chapter Valley of Dry Bones. You will know

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it well. Verses seven to eight talks about the initial prophecy. So Ezekiel's first

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word that brings form to the bones, form to the skeletons, form to the flesh, this sense

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that we were in through Bishop Bill Hammond and others like him, a three decade long

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and longer period of time with prophecy where the revelation was, I can hear God and I've

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got something to tell you about what he's saying and the value for personal words.

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That's where we were. Second breath Ezekiel 37 10, the second wave and the first person,

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second one to really prophesy, it happened to be Tim Hammond, Bishop Bill's son. And

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he prophesied that just under 10 years ago. But here's the verse. It says this, so I

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prophesied as he commanded me and breath entered them, they came to life and stood up on their

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feet, a vast army and this second wind, second breath, second phase, whatever you want to

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call it, that it was really then about getting added onto what we know of the foundation

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of personal words. God has something to say about nations, peoples. He has something to

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say corporately, but his massive thing is the revelation of the army and army readiness.

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We are called to wage war, spiritual warfare is important. We are weaponized by heaven

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and the spirit realm and prophecy goes forth, not just to encourage, but as a weapon of

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war to liberate and to establish the kingdom of God. And that is where you see Ezekiel

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37 10, the armies filled with breath and can start functioning as an army.

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So the development from personal prophetic words to prophets who are dealing with nations,

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territory, regions and army readiness, that's quite a jump. But here we are in Ezekiel 37,

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seeing Ezekiel asked to prophesy three consecutive times and with each prophetic unction, he

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is adding something to what he's been asked to do or God is adding to him a different

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function. And this is the model. Now, I think people really struggled. And you get the coming

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up to it a little bit like I want to grow and I want to prophesy over nations, but I'm

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fearful of overstepping. So you get a lot of words that sound like God's just going

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to bless your nation. Your nation is going to be a success. Your nation is God's favorite

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because there is this loving of the individual that is applied to the loving of the nation,

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but it's light and it's not really bringing an accurate word that's specific to your

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nation. So people are trying to get there, but actually there's nothing to be useful

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to be built with. Or people came to it too fast and furious and ended up in this slap

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down type of prophecy that was a bit overstated. So you got a load of we would call them the

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judgment prophets. You got an overstating and it is trying to come from, I'm understanding

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that there's a value to prophesy over the individuals to shifting into I understand

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the function is beyond the individual. I have teeth prophets with teeth and I am looking

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at the masses in nations. Yes, I'm looking at now the Ephesians for call the office of

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the prophet. I'm looking at leadership within the local community and local body of Christ.

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I am looking at the sense of aligning people. I'm looking at securing the future of the

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nation, but I'm bringing in sometimes a little bit of sharpening, a little bit of correction,

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a little bit of timing, a little bit of direction. I'm starting to move into that with teeth.

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And you had a load of prophetic words maybe five, seven years ago that prophets will now

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have teeth, which was kind of the shorthand for the step up into this place. And you will

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be able to measure whether you heard prophets that over did that or under did that, trying

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to embrace this step.

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Absolutely. And so you have in the first breath, this whole idea of the prophetic word has

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to be accessible to the individual. But in the second breath, there's this releasing

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of the prophetic word with authority to the masses. And it is very much tied to nations

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or boundaries. And it's within this particular one that you see specialities and I'm a prophet

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to business or I'm a prophet to so rather than just I'm a prophet to a person, personal

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prophetic words, you see people then with the it's where you get the seven mountain revelation,

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which is helpful in some ways of how society is framed. But that says, Oh, I have a call

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to politics or I have a call to prophesy into business or to family or whatever that might

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be.

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So the prophet to nations concept emerges or the prophet to Hollywood or the prophet to

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business or the prophet to, I don't know, the church or and

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Yeah, pick one.

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Economics banking.

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Absolutely.

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arises.

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So you see this move and actually it's a brilliant move because it incorporates warfare into

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prophetic words.

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Yes.

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It incorporates the army of the Lord. And so when we prophesy, you start to hear a little

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bit more of conversations about there was this principality that God's dealing with.

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There's that the problem really with this group and not group with this wave and we

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all are in it is because it's about alignments, you get the weakness of factions,

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Yes.

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of side territory, territorialism.

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And ultimately, when you're prophesying to government or politics or a structure, they

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are human structures.

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They are created structures.

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And so you get caught up there and it's very much you then get that just as we've seen,

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you can conflate kind of the word of God with geopolitical boundaries and you kind of get

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lost in there.

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The nation state and securing the nations.

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But as brilliant as it has made us more military minded.

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Yes. And I think that it doesn't always get that there is a stage three or a breath three

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in Ezekiel for the prophets to become.

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So the end game in this level is not actually the kingdom of God.

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The end game is when you fall off and go to extreme with this second breath is political

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leadership.

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And so you see the politicalization of the prophets who don't read to the end of Ezekiel

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37 and are trying to steward nations, but don't understand how the kingdom of God works.

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So they just prophesy all about politics.

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So it is stepping up, but it's not understanding what the step up is to be that the step up

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is actually correction, holiness, direction, timings and calling people to standard of

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behavior rather than securing political leaders who you like because they're going to bring

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comfort to you personally.

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So in the first breath, confirmation of the word is very much personal encouragement and

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comfort.

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When you prophesied that, I knew it was right because I felt encouraged and comforted.

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In the second breath, the confirmation of the word has unfortunately at times tipped

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into mass agreement.

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And is there harmony?

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Do I agree with the word?

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Does that make sense within a nation or potentially political framework that then became the measurement

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of whether or not the word was right.

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And the interesting kind of swimming in the soup of this second breath is because you're

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looking at territory and because you're taking responsibility rightly for nations, you are

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thinking about boundaries.

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And once you think boundaries, I will protect and prophesy over this land, master this nation,

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you are partnering a little bit with territorial.

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I think the territorial spirits, so we all have to agree about this prophetic word.

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And don't you speak anything that's, you know, outside of the agreement of this room rather

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than how can we bring our portion and how can we be iron sharpening iron that seemed

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to get lost.

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So we've developed rather than they ban we can all prophesy here.

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Let's sign up some individuals.

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We became this is my group of prophets and you're in your group of prophets and we're

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going to deal with this nation and we're responsible for that nation.

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And it became ugly and territorial though we were all doing our best step into the second

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wind, which has a sense of army nations and the advancement of people groups.

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So you can see why because because whenever you step up into anything, you have to find

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your feet in it.

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So I wouldn't want to speak too critically of I just would want to bring understanding

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as to why we've had these excess.

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Some people really struggled with this.

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Some people really struggled out of personal prophetic ministry.

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A lot of people haven't made the leap either out of personal prophetic, not out of our

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up into the second breath.

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Or to be able to do both.

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Yes.

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And so you see either people leapt into the second breath without the first or have stayed

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in the first breath without the second.

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I think a lot of it is in the first, there was a sense of safety for all involved.

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Yes.

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Giving and receiving words and that is massive.

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And with the second and its excesses, I think there's a fear that it could be dangerous

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for all involved.

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What if this is harmful or painful or divisive?

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Yes.

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So you see the apprehension even with others and certain prophetic groups around the second

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breath because it is military minded and it is about strident decisions and strong words

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and this is what the Lord says and here's what God is saying about this nation.

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It does create an opportunity to choose, but with that, there's often a fear.

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Do we lose the safety or perceived safety of the first breath?

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Yes.

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And I think that because we didn't explain our own personal development as a worldwide

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prophetic movement right across the board, we had folk who were very disappointed to

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not get my word.

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Yes.

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And of course, you've got the development of the individualistic culture in the midst

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of all of this journeying as well.

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So people come to the Prophet because they want their word, not understanding that the

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Prophet is being pulled by God into dealing with regions and territories.

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And so people didn't always want to receive or know how to or we didn't express it well

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enough.

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So let's take, I know this is a little bit like left of center, but if I was to say to

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you, who communicates better, Mark Zuckerberg, who runs Facebook or Greta Thunberg, a teenager,

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who's on a climate change agenda, let's not talk about the morals of each because they're

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both in their own ways, controversial figures.

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Who's communicating better?

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Greta Thunberg every day of the week, she has very little backing, you know, she's,

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she's, but she's got some ability to explain her case that is catching.

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There you have Mark Zuckerberg running Facebook, whatever it's called, the metaverse, with

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billions of pounds of backers and still not able to quite explain, you know, online safety

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and what he wants to do with that and, you know, how he's navigating all of that.

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And you look at some of his recent press stuff and you think that's clunky PR.

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So to be fair, when we look in the world around us, we see those who are able to explain what

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they're doing well, like Greta Thunberg and those like Facebook, who have just not been

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able to capture an understanding of what they're trying to do.

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And you see kind of how important it is that we capture hearts with an understanding of

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when I come as a prophet, this is what you get.

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This is what the anointing is.

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This is how you, here's what to expect.

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Here's how you'll get your best from us.

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We'll absolutely seek to bless you individually.

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But actually the best skill is that we're able to change nations and regions and secure

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that forward movement for you.

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We'll do some callites individually as well.

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So we miss that PR pitch.

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So there is the need to explain, prophets are great when they are getting the nation

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and the army ready.

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Now, we're going to leave you with another cliffhanger.

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You'll have to come back for the next episode for the third breath, the final third breath

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from Ezekiel 37 as we go on this journey of developing our revelation and our understanding

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within the word of God for what he wants from his prophets.

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So big deep breaths my friends and I bless you if you've not become that voice who's

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thinking territory and region.

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Now, let a responsibility hit you for territory, for region, for getting an army ready and

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calling people up and into place, prophesying and demonstrating and securing breakthrough

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for nations.

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I bless you into that in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of what the prophets say with me Emma Stark.

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If you would like to go deeper with us, you would be very welcome to join our network,

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